The Delta Flyers - Who Mourns for Morn

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

The Delta Flyers is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, Terry Farrell, and Armin Shimerman. In each podcast release, they will recap and discuss an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.This week’s episode, Who Mourns for Morn, is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, and Armin Shimerman. Who Mourns for Morn: Quark inherits a fortune - and a group of thieves lay claims to the estate. We would like to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Production Managers, Megan Elise and Rebecca McNeill.Additionally, we could not make this podcast available without our Executive Producers:Stephanie Baker, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Kris Hansen, Chris Knapp, Janet K Harlow, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, Mike Gu, Tara Polen, Carrie Roberts,Tom Paynter, Sandra Stengel, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Alex Mednis, Holly Schmitt, David Wei Liu, Nicki T, Roxane Ray, Tim Neumark, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Jenny Cordina, Ryan Mahieu, Francesca Garibaldi, Jonathan Capps, Chris Dellman, Sean T, Cindy Woodford, Tamara Evans, Shawn Robbins, & Francis Our Co-Executive Producers:Liz Scott, Sarah A Gubbins, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Elaine Ferguson, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Deike Hoffmann, Anna Post, Cindy Ring, Lee Lisle, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Elizabeth Stanton, Tim Beach, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Andrew Duncan, Randy Hawke, Penny Liu, Matt Norris, David Smith, Heath K., Andrew Cano, Robby Hill, Kevin Harlow, Jeff Allen, Londyn Henning & Risa EinsidlerAnd our Producers:Philipp Havrilla, James Amey, Jake Barrett, Ann Harding, Samantha Weddle, Paul Johnston, Warren Stine, Carl Murphy, Jocelyn Pina, AJ Provance, Brian King, Maxine Soloway, E & John, Brianna Kloss, Dat Cao, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Alexander Ray, Sarah Thompson, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Sara Junius, Renee Wiley, Maria Rosell, Dominique Weidle, Jesse Bailey, Mike Chow, Matt Edmonds, Miki T, Heather Selig, Steph Davies, Stephanie Aves, Seth Carlson, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, Annie Davey, Jason Eberl, Jeremy Gaskin, Sarah Dunnevant, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Eddie Dawson, Lauren Rivers, Jennifer B, PJ Pick, Preston M, Rebecca Leary, SnazzyO, Lutz Krebs, Karen Galleski, Jan Hanford, Katelynn Burmark, Cade Solsbery, Timothy McMichens, Cassandra Girard, Andrea Wilson, Slacktwaddle, Mo, Leslie Ford, Jay Furness, Jim Poesl, Gabystar, Daniel Chu, Scott Bowling, Michael Jones, Ed Jarot, James Vanhaerent, Nick Cook-West, Kilian Trapp, Kit Marie Rackley, Gordon Watson, Andy Bruce, Brenton Tyler, Andrew Golden, Damien O’Donnell, Michael Bourguignon, Corey Evans, Patricia Welsch, Shannon Gregg Lucky, Ken Guthrie, Michelle Fox, Jeff Schmedinghoff, & Kalena Rivera Thank you for your support!This Podcast is recorded under a SAG-AFTRA agreement.“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark, and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, or distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail] Sponsors:* Check out ElevenReader and use my code PODCAST for a great deal: https://elevenreader.io* Check out Omaha Steaks and use my code BEEF for a great deal: https://www.omahasteaks.com* Check out Progressive: https://www.progressive.com* Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/TDF for a great deal: https://www.quince.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers Journey Through the Wormhole with Quark, Dax, and their good friends, Tom and Harry. Join us as we make our way through episodes of Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Your hosts for today are my fellow Trek actors, Armin Schimmerman, Garrett Wong, and myself, Robert Duncan McNeil. How are you guys? Can you roll your art every time that you say your name, Robert Duncan, McNeil? That's how you should enter any set that you walk into. It is, I don't know it.

Yes. Only a rolled ours. That's the only way to go, man. I like your hat, Armin, Grumpy Old Man Club. Thank you. Thank you. It was started by my good friend Peter Van Norton, who passed away a couple of weeks ago. And last night we had dinner with his widow and it was very nice.

Oh, so you've got the hat in honor of Peter. Actually, yes and no. I actually am wearing the hat in honor of Greg Ginson. Oh, yes, Greg Gitson. And when we get into this episode, So one of my closest friends, along with Peter, but Greg and I were very, very, very, very close. Wow. Okay.

I love Greg. Very talented actor and wonderful human being. Yeah. No, no, not a wonderful human being. Well, a fun human being to be around. Yes. Very dry, very sarcastic. Yes.

But an incredible actor. Yes, incredible actor. Hey, we have some birthdays we got to go through. Yes, we do. Here we go. September 16th. Cade Solesbury. That is Cade's birthday. Happy, happy, happy, happy birthday to Cade. Happy birthday, Cade. Many happy returns.

Happy birthday, Cade. Have a great day. Michelle Fox on September 18th. Happy birthday, Michelle. Happy birthday, Michelle. Happy, happy birthday, Michelle Fox. Next up, we have Mike Chow on September the 19th. Happy birthday, Mike. Happy birthday, Mike. Happy birthday, Mike.

We also have Samantha Weddle on. September 20th, Happy birthday, Samantha. Happy birthday, Samantha. Happy birthday, Samantha, what all? Poetry synopsis, let's start with Robbie's Limerick and then my IQ. Yes, here we go. Here is my limerick.

For who mourns? For Morn? Quark said that Mourn loved to chatter. He'd go on about nothing that mattered. Where's his latinum? Where's the cash? Morn never discussed his stash. But he spit up some latinum gray man.

matter. Excellent. Excellent. I'm doing the z. I'm going to. Oh my God. That's good. It's loud. So what I do is I don't read Robbie's poetry synopsis before. And even if it's on screen, I look away. I overt my gaze. And I just listen to the rhythm. I let it wash over me. And it's always a, I got to give you a golf clap on that one. Very funny, buddy. Very good. No, thank you. Yes. He spit up the gray matter at the end. I had no that's what latinum looked like. I didn't know it was encased in the gold. The worth, that's funny, the gold pressed latinum. Yes.

Yeah. But I thought, I don't know, for some reason, I put all the value in the gold because of, you know, I'm a human being on this planet right now and gold is worth a lot. So that's my mistake. It's gray liquid. Latinum. It's very valuable. Almost looks like mercury, you know, in the bottom of the thermometer kind of a thing. It may have been what was in there was in.

They just put mercury in it. All right. Here's my haiku for who mourns for mourn. Morns will. All to quark. Four more won a piece of pie. Morn barfs latinum. I see you guys have a theme here.

We do. I didn't read yours either. No, that's great. I love it when it washes over Robbie as well. That was great. We're on the same page. We are. And before we go any further, let us give credit.

What credit is due. Mark Allen Shepard, who plays Morn. Yes. Yes, of course. Mark was, and he got to appear on camera. We'll talk about it when we get there, but without the makeup. Yes, it's an joke. Yes, it's an joke.

Yes, it was great. Well, Armin, can you give us a little etymology? Etymology. Sure. I had that for breakfast. So the word Morn with a U is from the common Teutonic and Old English. M-N-N-A-N-N-A-N-M-N-O-N-O-N-O-N-O-N. Or from the old high German mornin, M-O-R-N-E-N.

The word might come from the old Norwegian root syllable M-E-R. So that's a syllable, which means to die in Norwegian, in old Norwegian. So the definitions, one, to feel sorrow, grief, or regret. However, in the old English, the word meant more to be anxious or careful. So that's what the original meaning was. It was first used in English in 888 in the year 8.8. A very old English word. That's one of the oldest that you've talked about in terms of its roots.

1,000 is pretty much as far past as I've gone. This beats that. Second definition, to utter lamentations for someone. And I'm going to give you a quote that I found, wasn't an 888, but it wasn't 1533. but any Christian prayer is when any man prays and mourns invertible in his heart to God for his help. Okay, so that's mourn with a you. The second word is mourn, M-O-R-N, which is not only a name, of course, but it is the abbreviation for the word mourning.

And the word mourn by itself without the I-N-G at the end comes from, again, common teutonic and old English Morgan. We're all familiar with that as far as German. Guten Morgan. Yes, Good and morning. The beginning of the day, dawn sunrise first used in 1077 in the poem, Beowulf. Oh, wow. So the word Morn is first used in Beowulf. Wow, which we had an episode kind of based on Beowulf and Voyager.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. It's also M-O-R-N, M-O-N's name, is a joke on Norn from Cheers. Yes, scramble the letters up a little bit. Remember the letters. Yeah. Okay.

And if I can give any, a little bit of background, which is just trivial, but David Livingston, fell in love with the character, Morn, and put him in a very visible spot in the first season of Deep Space Nine. And then he just became part of the bar, you know. Yeah. And he didn't have a name. He wasn't called Morn. That just became an in-joke for all of us that because he always was in the bar. We called D-Morn.

And then eventually, look at this. He has an episode named after him. And I, forgive me, Mark, but for many years, I said to Mark, you need to go to the union because they're treating you and paying you like your background. And you have your own name. You have your own action figure doll. You are a character that is referred to often in our show. You are not background.

You are a principal. But he never took advantage of that. Oh. He was probably afraid that if he complained, they would just write him out. Which he may be right. They may have done that. What you're saying to us is that Mark owes all of that focus or that attention spotlight to David Livingston. David is the one who first put him in that corner.

And he just saw him on the first time we shot in the bar as background and just loved the makeup and stuck him right there in the front. So when he was stuck in the front, he didn't even have a name at that point. Am I correct? He wasn't that was added later. Okay. That was added later. I mean, he was there so often you had to refer to him. Yes.

So that's the background on his character. I love it. We have another background person who was my stand-in. It's the Ferengi waiter that you see throughout the episode. Yeah. And they give him a name. I think this is the first time we actually had given it. Broick.

Broick. Broke. And he starts off the episode. You start the episode with David Broek walking across. Yeah, that's right. Panning over with him. Yeah. And they did.

give him a line, but not in this episode. Yeah, I think that, you know, if background actors are very important, we've talked about that. They're very important in storytelling and having background actors who can do that job as an actor and perform the circumstances of the scene and what's going on. It's very important. They were part of the family. Exactly. They're part of the family.

And in my case, I wrote a great deal to David. David would do the camera blocking because he was a stand in. and he would relate to me everything that they didn't. I was ahead of the curve because of David's communication with me. That's great. That's awesome. We have some Patreon submitted poetry. Who starts us off, Karen?

Let's start off with Tim McMitchens, his limerick. Here we go for who will mourn for mourn. There once was a Lurian named Morn, reported deceased, sad, and worn. Cork got quite the shock when the thieves formed a flock and came calling for treasure longborn. Turns out the corpse was a ruse. Morn had latinum to lose, so he hid it away in himself so they say

then strolled back in with no bruise. Oh, wow. Wow. Excellent. That is excellent. He did a double a double a record. He went on and then flipped for a second verse. Yeah. Golf clap. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Very good. All right. We've also got a haiku submitted by Jay Furness.

And that is Mourne is killed. so sad, the greedy come for his wealth. In the end, Morn wins. Great. Nice. There you go. And again, listen to the poetry. This is not a background player. No. No, it's not. He really isn't. He really isn't. Okay, this episode is written by Mark Garrett O'Connell, directed by Victor Lobel, guest star is Gregory Hitson, as we spoke about him earlier,

as Hayne, Brad Greenquist, as Crit. Bridget, Anne, and Wyathe. as Larell, Cyril O'Reilly as Nosk, and let's just throw in Mark Allen Shepard as more. And I'm going to throw him in there because he deserves it. Yeah, absolutely. Victor Lobel is an old friend of mine. I had done many episodes of another show called Beauty and the Beast, where Victor was one of the two, if I remember correctly, directors that directed that show, which went on for about three seasons with Ron Perlman and Linda Hamilton. Mm-hmm.

So it was great fun to be working with Victor. again. Yeah, he did a great job. I thought, well, no. We'll get into it. We'll get into it, actually. Hold here. No. I forgot. No. I forgot.

We'll get into it. We'll get into it. This episode, a little bit of trivia here, this episode was nominated for an Emmy Award for Outstanding Makeup for a series for Michael Westmore. Wow. Mark Garrett O'Connell's original idea for this episode involved Morn, mysteriously disappearing from the station and the rest of the cast trying to hunt him down. They realized that although they have all known him for six years, none of them actually know very much about him. René Oshavaria removed the detective aspect from the story and introduced the characters of Hain, Crit, Larel, and Nosk.

That's an interesting initial approach, I suppose. He's just missing mysteriously. Do you think either of you, do you think that would have worked better in a way for the story? I think it would have. And I can't help thinking, because I know what the next episode is, which was a little. lot of work for Avery Brooks. I think they needed to take whatever, to take the onus of work off of him for this episode so that he could prepare for the next one.

Okay. Did he direct the next one or just acting in it? Both. Oh, both. Oh, boy. And he was, he was, it's, I don't know if you've seen it yet or not, but it is absolutely our favorite, the one we are most proud of. Wow.

I've heard that. I know the title of the next episode and I've, it's the only title. I've heard, you know, about a thousand times. Everybody talks about it. So I'm excited. Let's start our story, shall we begin? Okay. Well, we start with Broek's.

We start with Broek moving through the bar. Yes. As he moves through, there's a soundtrack from Bjork playing when Broek walks through. Yes. And as he passes through, we see Odo come in and step up to Morn, who's sitting at the bar in his usual spot. Odo tells Morn that he's got to move his beats, his shipment of Levianian beats that They're sitting in Cargo Bay 3.

They've been there two weeks. They're starting to rot, he says. And Moran takes a sip of his drink, but doesn't look at Odo. And I immediately was like, what's going on? Why is he not looking at him? It was very strange. I thought it was a bad acting choice. But it turns out that he's a hologram.

He's not real. He's even the cheap hologram because Quark didn't want to splurge for a talking hologram. Yeah, a talking hologram. Neither did the producers. No. So Quark says, Morn is away on business. And he's very good for business. So he's got this hologram to keep him there because people like it when Morn's sitting at the bar. Kind of like the writers of DS9 like it when Morn's sitting at the bar. But they didn't want to pay for the expensive actor. Like Quark didn't want to pay for the expensive hologram. Yeah. We do have a cross from Bershear who walks into the bar and says, hello, Morn. And doesn't even realize he's a hologram because that's a comfort thing for him. him too. But yeah, Morn is good for business. So he's got this hologram. That's when Cisco and Dax arrived, very serious when they walk in. And we learned that Morn's ship got caught

in an ion storm and Morn is dead. How did you react, Robbie, when you saw that part, that scene? What was, did you? I said he can't be dead because I feel like he's on the whole series. So I feel like I felt like that was, we're going to have a story that he's not really dead. That was my first thought. You know, yes, that's indicative of this whole episode. Yes. Yeah, I will say, and I'm going to not bury the lead here. Armand, normally I'm a big Ferengi story fan. I often, they're my favorite episodes. In fact, we just talked about one recently that I think was maybe my highest rated episode. This is not. And it's not because it's a Ferengi episode. Part of it's the writing, it just feels like, I feel like I'm ahead of the story, or I'm just waiting for some

something new to happen. Nothing is all old tropes. You know, I'm getting ahead too. It's just old tropes. Let's, let's move on. There's a war going on for God's sakes. What is this doing there? Yeah.

I will be honest. I think the tropes could have worked and the kind of slapstick comedy, which is in the writing a bit. I don't think it's the best writing. So that's why I don't think it's the best written episode. But it's also the execution. And I know it's not the actors because you can do it. I know the rest of the can.

These actors are good actors. It's the direction. It was not paced. I felt like it needed to be tightened up constantly. Every scene should have been five times faster. And it would have been funny because there was some funny stuff there, but it wasn't funny because it was landing so slowly in my opinion. And the tone was kind of missed, I think.

And that was not the actor's job. Tone is not an actor's job. That's people watching like the director, you know, should be looking for that. Anyway. Yeah, no, I feel like this could have been a better episode. I still don't think I would have rated it as like one of my favorites. It could have been a lot better.

But yeah, that's my thoughts. Yeah, it just seemed like the script was not completed. Okay. Yeah, we have questions? There we go. Well, let's go through it because there's a lot of great stuff to talk about, too. There is a lot of great stuff. So we cut to the promenade, Bashir Miles are heading to the memorial.

We learn that everybody makes an offering. That's the tradition. of what is his species called? Lurian. Lurians. Yeah, Lurian tradition. They need to offer a gift that they can use in the afterlife.

Very Egyptian. Yes, yeah, very Egyptian. True. Dax is there. She's super sad. We learned for the first time. She had a crush on him. But he wasn't interested.

No, no, we've heard it before. We have? Yes. She talked about like, wow, I think Morn's real cute. I mean, she says, like, I like those five hairs coming out. or his head in the forehead. So she talked about him before in an early episode. But this is like a story she's referencing,

like how she had a deep crush and he wasn't interested and rejected her. And Worf is totally in shock about it. Warf has no clue. Worf is the only person that doesn't know that she had a crush. Everyone else who's watched the show would definitely know that. But he's very jealous too, which I thought was funny. I love that scene. I love that interaction.

But what I did not know was that Morn was Worf's sparring partner. That, to me, shocked the bejesus out of me because I kept thinking, eh, he's pretty much, you know, glued to that corner of that bar. Wouldn't does he have time to go spar? But still, it's a cool little, I guess, backstory or factoid. That's the whole joke is they talk about how fascinating and interesting this character is in so many ways. That's part of it then, yeah. And then, yeah, all we ever see is him sitting there speechless at the bar.

Right. Well, Odo brings a bottle opener, which he says maybe he can use in the afterlife. thought that was funny. There's a lot of funny. There's a lot of clever. Very clever. There are clever jokes in here. They just don't land as comedy because the tone is not quite right.

Right. But they are on paper. They're funny jokes. Yeah. We cut inside of Quarks and we see the bar is piled with food and drinks. There's a portrait of Morn on the bar. And Quartels tells, are you talking to Broich here, I think? I'm talking to the four, three other, uh,

rangy waiters probably being one of them. That's right. You're talking to the wait staff, you tell them if they don't have a gift to sell them some Eurydian ale because that was Morn's favorite drink. And that's dubious whether or not it was or not. Yes, exactly. Not only do you tell them, but then, well, Worf comes in still confused about the Dax and Morn thing.

And Dax is like, drop it. So they're getting into a tiff off camera about him being jealous, which is funny. Quark makes a big speech here about mourn, very heartfelt speech. I'm not so sure it was heartfelt. It was a difficult thing. Theatrical, it was, yes. It was a difficult because as I watched the speech, I'm thinking, was I think this was a comic episode and that really has no feelings for mourn and is trying to be

heartfelt or was I trying to be heartfelt and I failed? I really don't remember. From the responses of the others, which I knew nothing about, they seemed to think that I was heartfelt. So then I wish I could go on, I wish somebody had said, which is it? Is it a comic pastiche? Or is it me just really heartfelt?

But then we have the moment after the speech and I think, well, then it must have been comic. Yeah, that's part of the writing flaw, I think, is it wasn't clear what Corks, point of view was. Yeah. That wasn't clear and it should have been crystal clear. And I think it could, you could have played both values. You could have played very heartfelt about it, but every opportunity to make some money turns into the comic that if that had been sharpened and clearer, I think it would have worked, but it was a little bit mush in the middle. With Kira and Odo, with the reaction

shots and they're saying, wow, wow, he's really moving us. Yeah, yeah. I went, one, I don't think my speech was actually doing that. And two, when did they feel this close to Quark before? You know, I understand that there have been some references recently, but, but it just didn't make sense to me. Yeah. Well, isn't it at the end of this speech that you physically grab Mark Allen Shepard, who was a Bajoran and place him in the chairs? Yeah, that's the gag. That's the gag.

Yeah. But nobody knows that. No one knows that. That's just for us on the set. Yeah. The bejorn that I put in Morn's chair is Mark Allen Shepard. She plays Morn. And I say keep this chair warm.

And he does. And again, speechless. But I love your line, Cork's line. Keep it warm for Morn. Which is such a, it's like a campaign slogan almost. It's like so wonderfully compact. Yeah, he tells everyone in the crowd, don't ever let this chair be empty. Yeah.

And then seats Mark Allen. Sheppard into the chair he always sits in. So awesome. And then he goes and cuddles a Dabo girl. A Dabo girl named Kathy Bono. Yes. Who is Terry's double. Terry's stand in.

Yes. And she, too, at the end of the season, when Broick gets a line, Kathy will get a line. Oh, good. Robbie. A little bit, Anne Armin, a little bit of extra trivia. Megan and I were watching a true crime documentary, and Kathy Dubono's name came up in there.

Yes, there was a gentleman, I don't want to call him a gentleman. There was an individual in Los Angeles that had tried to be a restaurateur and had it completely, you know, went through three or four restaurants, kept failing. And then he started passing himself off as a Hollywood production executive to different women that he would approach at the mall, whatever, saying, here's my card. You've got to come over. We're going to do a quick test with you and have you put you on camera, all this stuff, praying on women who have the dreams of becoming. a star in Los Angeles. And Kathy Dubono was one of the people that he tried to get. Kathy was smart enough to bring someone with her to the actual meeting point.

And when he saw that there was a gentleman, there was a man with Kathy, this guy ran. He just took off and just disappeared. But he did after, after Kathy did catch somebody else, brought him to whatever location he had asked her to show up to and proceeded to kill her, murder her. So, oh, my gosh. It's okay. She good for her bringing. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. She could have been a statistic as well, but she wasn't. Anyway, side trivia. Well, at the end of this scene, Cisco comes in, he says, sorry to intrude. I think you should know something, core work. I unsealed Morton's will. And he left you everything.

And that's it for Avery. Yeah. He goes off to prep the next episode. Yeah. Really, he's got a lot of work planning for the next episode. Yes. And we do end with a two shot of Mark Allen Shepard and the portrait on the bar. I don't know if you noticed that, but Victor did shoot a two shot of that, which I thought was clever.

Oh, yeah. But I showed that scene to Kitty. Do you know what the joke is here? And she watched it. And she said, what's funny about that? And she was on the set. I know she had Mark. She had no.

So if Kitty doesn't recognize the joke, you know, who's going to recognize the joke? No one will. Only the fans that read the trivia and stuff. the behind the scenes would know that. Or the fans listening to this podcast. And now everybody listening to this podcast. They're going to know. We go to the security office next.

Otto Hans Quirk, the full inventory of Morn's possessions. And we learn that Morn is broke and Quark is in shock. He has nothing. Morn has absolutely. And he has a bar bill he has to pay. Yes. And Odo does say at the end, well, maybe his assets are all tied up in inventory. or got a little hope.

Yes, maybe it's inventory. So they go to the cargo bay. And all we see are those stinky beats that Odo mentioned in the first scene. They're rotten now, right? I think they're rotten. They're rotten. Yeah. I did like the special effects with the smoke coming out as you.

Yeah. It almost look like those are like the bacteria spores or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. The perfect level of stinky smoke. Yeah. But those beats aren't going to pay a bar bill. So then Odo says, well, maybe he's got, you know, spend all his money on furniture or art in his quarters.

Yes. Yes, let's go look in his quarters. So off we go. Why is Odo doing this? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I watched it and thought, why is he doing this? Is it just a plot point to get, you know, my character.

It needs somebody to deliver some. Yeah. But I just think, why is he doing this? And is this gleeful for Odo? is this just something he has to do because he's required? And again, you know, is it out of friendship? Who knows? That was just a choice.

I went, Renee, what's your choice here? What's your choice? And I just didn't see a choice, except that this is what the paper said. You know, when I was watching my angle, at least what I thought was, I thought in a way he was toying with you. Could be. Yeah. In terms of we all have seen Odo always on top of the pulse of the station, knowing everything that goes on. So I kind of felt like he knew the bigger picture and he just wanted to see you squirm in a way.

It just, you know, just kind of like. But he didn't play that. I agree with you, Gary. And I, and I, watching the episode, I thought, this is what he should have done, what you just described. Yeah. But I didn't see that. And, and most of the time I'm in awe of Renee's work, just just seemed less than Renee like right here. Well, I did get a little of, it was very subtle to me, but I did feel like he was giving me that a little bit. That's where I went. Yeah. All right. Well, we see Quark in a corridor. He's very happy. He's going to auction off all of Morn's stuff at a premium because everybody loves Morn so much. So he's excited. The doors open to Morn's quarters and there's nothing but a hot tub and a Matador painting on the wall.

Sorry. What? It's like, it's like dogs playing poker. It's that kind of tropey. Although, Martin bought the painting at the auction in the other episode, right? Yes, Robbie. You caught it. That's from earlier. That's the one thing he bought. That's the only thing he has on the wall. Eight years on the station and that's all he has.

That's all he has. And a hot tub. A hot tub with mud. Yes. Pink. Is it pink mud? Pinkish mud is something. Yeah.

No computer? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. That's it. So Otto leaves. And suddenly a naked girl pops out from under the

water. What? How'd she hold her breath that long, by the way? That's what I thought. I cannot remember. Alien species. I'm asking how the human actor actress kept. Oh, you're saying, okay, because you can validate. I mean, you can corroborate with an alien, but as a human, you're right. I'm going. You know, how long does she have to be underwater? Yeah, my, hopefully not. Hopefully not long. The makeup stood up to whatever she was, you know. Yeah, stood up and yet was still wet. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. We know that Morn has two stomachs. I felt that this alien had four lungs in order for her to stay in the name. So long. Yeah. She pops up. We learn her name is Lurel. It's Morn's ex-wife, or so she claims. She's very flirty with you, Armin. Very flirty. Just that little bit of Lurian culture that we learn here, that that is not a hot tub, but indeed his bed. That's where he sleeps or that's how he sleeps. sleeps, yeah, in the mud.

In the mud. Interesting. Just as Odo sleeps in a bucket. Yes. Right. Well, this naked girl pops up. She says she's Morn's ex-wife. She's very flirty.

She says that Morn has a retirement fund. So after Quark has hit a dead end on all these other spots, this is good news for him. It's a thousand bricks of gold-pressed latinum. And then she lifts her leg up. And I thought, oh, she must be a dancer. she's actually an opera singer. Oh. Is she really?

Oh, wow. Cool. Yeah, she seemed like theater savvy. Yes. In her performance, in her just, yes, the physicality of it all, it felt like she was a theater. I think the actors on a whole in this episode were very theater savvy and a little too much for TV. There was more theater than it was TV. Oh.

Yeah. At times, I agree with you. Did that pull you guys out of it a bit when you're watching? It pulled me out. It pulled me. I went, lovely for the stage, just not going to work on the camera. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, it felt a bit more presentational. Theatical. Yeah. Theatrical. A little too much. Yeah. Yeah. Like the leg lift.

I didn't think you needed the leg lift at the end. It was enough that this naked woman stands up, basically. And that certainly has to be Victor. It couldn't have been Ms. White. So that certainly had to be a directorial choice. Yeah. And I'm also guessing when that reverse shot, when she kind of rises up, she has to have some pasties or something on. She's not going to just let her.

Yes, my wife would not allow otherwise. We also do find out that the thousand bricks of gold, according to L'Orel, was won by Morn in the Lusepian lottery. That's the first indication of where this gold, sorry. It's the first story. Yes, the first story. We hear, yes. We're going to hear a lot of stories. Oh, boy.

We come back a little later. Cork is draining the hot tub. And Larel says she's now dressed, by the way. She says that the thousand bricks are on the ship somewhere. And she tries a little UMox to get him to go along with her plan. He says all the thousand bricks are all his. But then she says, well, yeah, she wants to share it. She says, I could contest it and wrap us up in court for a long time.

And she convinces him that there's enough. Latinum for them both to enjoy it. And I think he's moved a little by the UMox. I think so too, which just was a step too far for me. If they had given her a really cogent argument that he could have listened to, yes, Quark, like any other male, is interested in that sort of thing. But I think there was just too much UMox. Oomox is a little like mourn.

If we just know about it and we don't talk about it, more titillating than you actually show it. Yeah. It just seemed like a joke that didn't work. Yeah. The only thing that kind of pulled me out is when you're, when cork is draining the hot tub, you see the 1990s jet spray. You just, it pulled me out. It was like they just, they just went to a local hot tub.

I just wanted it to be more sci-fi, more, more futuristic. Yeah, it looked like you could, yeah, you can see the, uh, the jet on the side of the hot, the inside of the hot, the hot, yeah, props just went to hot tubs or us and grabbed it in and put it down. and there was nothing futuristic about it, that's all. Small, small nipic. Well, we go to Quarks next. Cork is playing Tongo with Dax.

We learn he has not found the Latinum yet. He explains that liquid latinum is suspended in worthless gold. So that's the first time I hear anything about Latinum being liquid. Yeah, both of us, right? We had no clue. We did not know that. Yeah. Because Quark says, I wonder who came up with the idea of suspending liquid latinum inside.

worthless bits of gold. And then Dax's response, probably somebody who got tired of making change with an eye dropper. So we start to get this idea of the liquid, which I had never pictured that before. I always thought it was a solid.

I can't help you there because I've so known that for so many years. But did you know that before this episode, though? That's exactly right, Garrett. I'm not sure if I knew that before this episode. We do learn that Dax is winning this game. She always does. She always does.

She's good at this game. And she says, don't trust a pretty face. Then she beats him. I wrote down, Quark is helpless against any pretty face, whether it's Dax. And that's good writing, despite my qualms about some of the other stuff. That's good writing. You know, beware of a pretty face. And then we have a close-up of Terry.

That's, that's, and she wins, of course. She wins at the game. Yes, yeah. I thought, oh, that's clever. It doesn't bode well for you in Larell or whatever. No, it doesn't. And in this scene, And Warwick says, I don't trust her.

You know, Dax says, don't trust her. And I go, I don't trust her. Yeah. Is this Terry's only scene or she has another scene? She was in the beginning. The very beginning. Okay. She's the one that the Crush.

Yeah. That's right. So the Morn is dead one, then the crush scene with Warf and then here. Terry credit, the moment when she sees Morn sitting on the stool in the first scene, it was really quite nice. She really played shock very well, I thought. Yeah.

I also like Terfair's work in this scene as well. Oh, my God. I thought she did a great job here. Forgive me. I think that's my best scene is the one with Terry. Because it's just comforting. It's just two friends working together and knowing exactly what the world is like. That's a great description.

Comforting. All right. We go to Quark's quarters next. The lights are down. He enters with the painting. And somebody's in the shadows. He thinks it's Larel, but nope, it's two scary aliens. A couple of gangster brothers.

business associates of Morn, they say. They say that Morn owed them money on a loan, 1,000 bricks, coincidentally. And Cork says, well, he needs to see documentation of this loan. And they say, no, we shook hands. And they basically implied, it's like a couple of gangsters. They're going to rough him up. Imply?

We're hit over the head that they're a couple of gangsters. Yes, yes, we are hit over the head. He offers 20%. They go back and forth. He holds at 40%. Finally, they hit him. literally hit him over the head with the painting. And he agrees to 50%.

I noticed the moment before I get hit over the head, I can see me bracing for the painting. The painting is behind me, but I know it's coming. So I go, that's funny. But at the same time, Armand,

I'm guessing props pre-scored the canvas so it's already ready to break easily, right? But that may have been the one and only type that we had. God knows how many of those paintings they had. So they probably said, we have to get this right on the first take. And so I knew it was coming and I can see it in my eyes. I can go. That's funny. Yeah. I couldn't take my eyes off of this alien makeup at this entire, every time we see the brothers, I'm just staring at every part of that makeup because there's so much going on. It's a great makeup. And they're not identical. You know,

the muscle. He's got the wider face. They kind of, you know, incorporate. And then then of course, the brains is, it's almost a little Laurel and Hardy in a way in terms of their dimensions, but their physicality through this whole thing, you're right. They're, Robbie, they're like goon enforcers the way they walked and how they talked and how they threatened you. They were doing things with them. Yeah, it was sort of like, hey, what do you guys do?

I mean, almost one of, yeah. That's what I was waiting for. A little bit of accent from the East Coast. Yeah. Yeah. They make a deal though, 50-50, and then they leave. Cork finds a chip in the frame, in the broken frame. He slides it into the computer, learns that it's a claim slip for a storage locker. Armin, you literally leapt with joy.

You leap, you spin, and you say, I love you mourn at the end of this scene. Yeah. It's not at this point, Armin, but later when you're going through the corridor and you jump up and click your heels, you were so spry and got so much height on that jump. I was younger. then. I can do those sort of things. I don't know if I can do it anymore. Oh, you were a spring chicken then.

It was great. I liked the energy, too. I felt like the pace generally in this episode was a bit slow and very, you know, methodical, which took away from the comedy. So that kind of energy, that kind of just, yeah, I loved it. I thought it was great. And here is a little bit of trivia that we kind of talked about earlier, Robbie, the painting of the Matador that has smashed a,

corkshead was purchased by mourn in the fifth season episode in the cards. John Eves painted 10 duplicates of the original painting. They were then scored so they would rip when smashed over corks head. There you go. So, okay, so 10. 10 of them. I'm trying to think, did I know that there were 10 or did I think there was only one? Well, maybe you did in first egg and you guys hit it.

I probably did do it in the first day. Yeah. Yeah, usually 10 duplicates is a lot. That is a lot. I usually when we do a prop that has to break or something, we'll do two, sometimes three to be safe. Okay. You never want to have one, but two should be enough and three is more than enough. Yeah.

Ten? Ten is almost. It feels like they could have saved some money on the ten duplicates of the painting and paid Mark Allen Shepard a little money. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. Yes, yes. Here's a union question. If in one project, which series, the series, Deep Space Nine, if you bump someone up from background to principal, can they be returned to background playing the same character? I don't think they can. I don't think they can either. No. If it's a named character, if you're playing the same character and you've named that character and paid them as a principal, even if they don't speak. We had a character that never spoke, and he appeared in at least three, maybe more episodes. Maniardue, the servant to, but always got top of the show of Billy. Okay. They got paid accordingly. Wow.

There you go. Mark should have had Tiny Ron's agent. Yeah. We go to the security office next. Cork opens the locker, the little locker box in Otto's office, and there is one brick. Just one brick in there. But he wrote on the back of the brick that the rest is in the bank. of Bolius. In his writing,

Odo's, again, I'm not sure what his point of view is here, Armin, but Odo says, he seems surprised. This wasn't in his official records. What? He had all this money. And that's the one time that the choice that I wanted Renee to make, I thought he made, which was he was disappointed. There's more to it than the one brick. I went. He seemed not just surprised, but to me,

disappointed. Oh, you might actually get something out of it. Yes. Right. That's what I saw and I like that. Yeah. Quark does take the brick and he puts it in his coat pocket, which is very important here. Which is, understand, I have to say this. I can't tell you how many times in the script it said Quark puts this in his pocket. Now, I don't know about you guys, but on our show, nobody had pockets. There's no pockets anywhere in costume anywhere. And so whenever they had, I'm sure in this script as well, it said Quark puts the brick into his pocket. And I go, I don't have any pockets. I have to figure out where to put it, where it won't, you know, so this is where I put it. So not even a vest pocket, right? You have all those intricate coats and vests. Nothing. Nothing. No side pockets. No, no, no, nothing. There's no

pockets. But invariably, the writer says he puts it in his pocket. And going, come to the set, you'll see that we have no pockets. Base suits don't have pockets. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. I got drawn out a little bit in this scene because of the whole thing where you say, oh, Morn wrote on this.

And I kept thinking, what would write on gold? Then I started thinking, oh, okay, Corkshire said, take a look on the bottom. Recognize Morn's handwriting in black Sharpie? Or something like that. I just don't even know. I thought that too, Garrett. Did it pull you a little bit?

Okay, good. Yeah, I'm not the only one. All right. Yeah. We go into the corridor where Quark runs into Larel, and she offers a little motivation, some Umox, more Umox. She wants to, uh, to stay here and help him with the Latinum and share in the latinum. And, uh, she says that, uh, she's very impressed that he's resisting her Umok's attempts

so much and that he's delaying his gratification. I think she says at some point in the scene. Very impressed by that. And Cork says, well, you don't make it very easy. And he heads off. He gets in the turbo lift. Where's the gold brick? She pickpocketed it.

Yes. Yeah. And if we go back and look at the scene, there isn't any place. I understand that sometimes, you know, there was another scene or another episode where Philip Anglam pickpocketed something, a sword from wharf. But I thought she never got close enough to me to pick my pocket.

And then it doesn't go anywhere. I mean, then the next scene, he explains in the elevator about, well, I don't care about that. But it doesn't say I don't care about that. He says, well, I have something else. Yeah, he says something. There's lots more. There's 999 more or something like that.

But he never brings it up with her again. I mean, my dear, you can keep that one. You know, we're partners. let that go towards your... Right. It's just dropped. It's dropped. Robbie, I see your note about the clicking of the heels.

That happened in the turp. Didn't it happen in the corridor before you see Larelle? Yeah, he's in the corridor heading to the turbo lift. It's just before he gets in the turbo lift. This is after the Larel conversation. So that's when he does that clip. Yeah, you click your heels in mid-air. So many passes.

A background person passes me in the corridor and then I click my heels. And you click after they pass. Yeah. That's great. Really good. It was great. Well, you get in the in the, uh, turbo lift, but the, the door is stopped. Do we get it?

Yeah. Is it stopped? But before we, he says, take me to level 16, I think it is. Yeah. Nothing moves. The doors don't close. He's speaking out loud. Yeah.

And then all of a sudden, somebody comes into the, into the elevator, into the turbo lift. And I go, shouldn't there have been something that indicated movement? Yeah. Yeah. The timing is strange because you say. level 17 and that's when you reach for the brick. You've got a moment with that.

You would have been moving at that point. You're right. Of course. And we have seen Turbolists move before. Yes. It moves immediately after you say what level. It doesn't pause for you to find the brick and for the box. Some more.

But we don't get any sense of movement. None. There's no movement. And even if it was moving, where did the brothers come from? Like they just sort of just show up. Like they knew that you were going to pop. It seemed to me like they were on the same floor following you. Oh, there you go.

That's what I thought. Oh, by that. They had seen you click your heels. Quark says, this is my stop. So he must have. To me, then he's gotten to level 17. This is my stop. Yeah.

Yes, you're right. It should have moved. There should have been some, some suggestion of the movement. Yeah. Right. But that would mean the brothers are in there too already, that correct? Or they're outside. They're outside.

the elevator door on 17. When it opens at 17 and then they grab you. Okay. So I would have loved to have seen the doors open and then them grab me as opposed to nothing happens. This, the camera's on me, the whole trip from wherever I was to 17. And I have no sense of movement. Yes. I agree. So undersight by production. Robby, what happened? I think it's the direction. Yeah. I mean, if if it says in the script he gets in, says level 17 and the turbo lift takes him to 17. Yeah. Then the direct. should make sure in the D.P. They should all make sure that we're telling that story, that this TurboLIF is traveling to another floor.

They didn't really tell that story. It was just tied on... No, and we've seen it in other episodes. It's not like they're making this up. It's day recur. They already know how to do this. Why didn't they do it? It's shocking that that fell through the cracks.

I'm shocked. Well, the brothers jump in the TurboLift. They grab him, Crit, and Nosk. Nosk feels bad about the painting, which made me laugh. He really, he apologizes more than once about the painting. Quark says no hard feelings. Critt says his brother has a nasty temper sometimes when things don't go their way. And Quark reassures them.

Things are going to go your way very soon. Yeah, all of this, I mean, I feel like the kind of Goodfellas comedy, you know, it could have been funnier. And it didn't read as funny. It didn't read as scary. It was kind of a mushy middle. So it would have been funnier if the pacing had changed. I think it could literally have been pacing. That's it.

Let's go again. Faster. It's got to be faster. It's got to be faster. And then the jokes would have landed. And then you could say, okay, speed through all of this until this moment. And when he says this, it stops the room. And everybody takes this seriously.

It would have been more interesting, kept my attention a little better if we had had comedy that turns on a dime to jeopardy. And then a joke gets us out of it or something. It felt like we were in kind of one gear. the whole time. Again, I think it was theatrical. I think the two actors and myself, let's conclude me as well, the three actors,

said this is a comedy. And for the two actors, the guest stars, this is their chance to be on camera. This is what they got hired for. Yeah, they were kind of milking it a little. And we were going to make the most out. Yeah. Definitely.

But the milking, the slowing down of the tempo completely kills the comedy. It kills the comedy. It's just the thing that they were trying to accomplish as character actors, they actually hurt themselves by the pacing of it. And if a director had just said, hey, I see what you're doing, it's going to be funnier,

it's going to work better, our story's going to play much better with pace. You've got to go faster. And then they wouldn't have milked it as much and they wouldn't have indulged and it would have been funny. You probably would have had a short episode. You would have had to write some more scenes because it needed that kind of pace, in my opinion. And also, I think when you're, like you said, as a guest actor, you know, when they want to do that, when they want to add this big.

to their reel, they're thinking, oh, this scene in it of itself, I'm going to use this. It'd be amazing. So let me milk it as much as possible. And it looks great on the reel for them. Look at me in alien makeup and playing, you know, look how this great this looks. But in reality, for the overall episode itself, it did not work. Unfortunately, yeah. We go to Quarks Quarters. He goes to contact the bank when suddenly in a close-up, we see a gun to the back of his head. And we meet Hane. The arrival of my good friend, Greg, it's a... Greg gets and I saw Greg do a play I think with Bob Picardo at a church somewhere. Oh.

It was a devil and an angel conversation or something. I can't remember. Could be. Yeah. I have to tell you, the working relationship between Greg as a staged actor and Andy Robinson as his director and they did a dozen plays together. I was going to ask you about that. Yeah, there was some very well, well regarded, memorable productions that they did together. together Andy and Greg yeah Greg is Greg was nominated for Tony for Kentucky

cycle was nominated for an Emmy because for those of you who recognize him go where do I know that Facebook he was the president on 24 and for which he was nominated for an Emmy got all sorts of theater awards in Los Angeles extraordinary actor and had been a series regular on a number of shows that didn't go very far but but did the pilots had a couple episodes and that was it so Greg it's and was from Wisconsin. He went to ACT in San Francisco and studied at their training program, which was a highly regarded classical theater program. It's the other program that I had auditioned for. And it's actually the school I wanted to go to more than Juilliard. Yeah, you said that. That was your preference.

And it may be that he ran into Renee there because probably at that time, Renee was the leading actor at ACT. Wow. The first TV show pilot that I ever did, Greg and I were the guest stars. Well, I was a series regular. He was a guest star. They made him a series regular. They said, if this show goes, his performance is so extraordinarily good. They said, we'll make you a series regular as well. And we did countless plays together. Our families are very close friends. I'm going to the details. I have some harrowing stories about the latter part of his life.

I will tell you this story very quickly. Greg, who mourns for more, Greg died twice. He died the first time had a heart attack. The doctors pronounced him brain dead. They put him on a special machine to keep him alive or to keep him breathing. And the family eventually turned the machine off

and he didn't die, despite what the doctors told the family. And it took him about 10, 11 months to recuperate. and the sarcasm that I mentioned earlier about Greg, all of that disappeared. He became another person. Wow. This was all done before that heart attack. But Greg and I were just attached to the hip forever, forever.

Wow. But he has since passed, though. Greg isn't the longer. Yes, he died in Wisconsin. Just an incredible presence, incredible presence. Yeah. Well, I mean, both of you had the honor of meeting him and interacting with him and knowing him.

I wish I did, too. Yeah, he was, if you saw him, as Robbie just said, if you saw him on stage, you would never forget that performance. He was extraordinary. I know he was friends with Bob Picardo as well. Okay. And I think I know. Bob knows a lot of people. Yeah.

It really does. Robbie, the other question I had for you is, is this, this is not Victor Lobel's first DS9 directed episode, is it? He did one, didn't he do one before? Yeah. So, Victor Lobel directed for the uniform. He directed Who Morns for Morn, In the Pale Moonlight and Prodigal Daughter. Okay. So, DS9, and he directed two episodes of Voyager.

Yes. So for the uniform is an older episode then, correct? Yes. Yeah, we've already did. Yeah. Okay. This is his second one, his second go. Yeah, this is his second one.

He'll do two more before the end of the series. And in the pale moonlight is of which you haven't seen yet. Right. It's an enormously powerful episode. I've heard many good things about that in that episode. don't know much about it, but looking forward to seeing that. Well, Greg gets in pulls a phaser to the back of Quark's head here, and Quirk turns around. Hane says that he's Lurian security and he's arresting Cork for conspiracy.

Armin have a question. He says, put your hands on your head. You put your hands on the makeup. And my first thought was, oh, don't press down too hard. It's foam. It's going to. Did you have to, like, did you have to be careful of when you leaned on your head or or was it thick enough that you could play it?

When my makeup process was over, when the application process was over, the last thing that was done is it was powdered. So it set everything. Not only was my head powdered, but my hands were always powered, always. So there was no chance of my hands getting stuck to my, yeah. Okay.

And even if the orange on the top of the head got onto the orange of the hands, it wouldn't have made any difference. You wouldn't have seen it. Was the foam thick, though, like if you put pressure, like if I put my hands on my head, I'm putting my weight down on my head. If you put the weight of your arms on that foam rubber, would it, would it just flatten? Would it? Or would it? It was already up again. The top of my head was at the top.

I mean, it's like this, like this hat. The hat doesn't really flattened because it's on the top of my head. So, um, uh, no. It didn't flatten. Didn't flatten it out. Yeah, Because I remember the one episode where I turned into a lizard and I had a lot of prosthetics. I had to be careful with touching, you know, touching the makeup or interacting. Not that I need to touch my face all the time, but going into the weeds here, when Michael Westmore did the mask, the mold for the mask, it fit exactly my head. So it's only I can wear that makeup because it was made exactly from my head. So it did indeed touch the top of my head.

And when you said mask, it reminds. reminded me that Michael Westmore did the makeup for the movie mask. Yes, that's right. Yeah, which was an incredible makeup. I think he was nominated for an Academy Award or something. I think so, maybe. When Haynes says Lurian Security, I almost wanted Cork to say, you're not even Lurian. I mean, I just, I don't understand why.

There's no shock that he's a human, you know, humanoid being a Lurian security person. I don't know. It seems suspicious. Yeah. But he played it well. I think Greg played it very, you know, I bought, I bought that he was official in some way. Oh, yes. I didn't think he was a, you know, a con man.

A bumbling con man at this point. Yeah, he was great. Yeah, he, he, um, quark offers him some bricks, but then Haynes says, no, uh, we'll add bribery to your charges. So he's playing very official so far. Hayne does reveal that Morn was a royal prince with shocks quark. Prince? Yes.

Prince? Yeah, he says, where is it? Oh, it was very funny. He repeated the same thing over and over. So, Cork says, why would the royal family? Cork says, why would the royal family of Luria give more than that kind of money? Haynes says, he was the crown prince? Cork says, Morn, was a prince?

Is that the point that you're saying? Yes, then he goes, you didn't know? Cork goes, Morn was a prince again. Morn was a prince? He says, you said three times, actually. Three times, yeah. The old comedy, threes. Morn is a prince, but not really.

It's a story. But at this point, you think he's a royal prince. That's right. I believed it. I'm gladian-sicker. Good job, Greg Insid. Yeah, yeah. He's a good actor.

He's a good actor. Yes. Hayne says the royal family gets their money back. They want their money back. Quark is in shock about he's a prince. Morn's a prince. Cork reveals that the ex-wife and the brothers, they're all here. Hayne has to think for a minute.

Clearly, now I start to notice his cover breaking here. You're like, wait a minute. And I think Greg could have done that. Yes. I think there's a little more subtly. Yeah, a little subtly. Yeah, he turns away. He's like, wait a minute, she's here. Anyway, he thinks hard. He decides he wants to catch them all, says have the bank deliver the money here and then we'll arrest them. I need your help, basically. So isn't there an offer of a reward for catching them? Yes. Yes, he does say.

So that becomes the incentive for Quark to go along with this. We go to Quarks next in the bar. O'Brien is keeping Morn's stool warm. He's working on an optronic relay. Right there at the bar. He's doing his job at the bar. That's how much they all love Morn. I had no idea. Morn was this. No, who did? Lives. And then O'Brien says he's got to go test this optronic relay. And Bashir says, I'll take over and he sits down. So, wow, people are literally taking shifts to keep the seat warm. Yeah, which is, this is what, season six. Yes. Yes. Exactly.

Where's this been for five years? Yeah. I don't know how it is for you guys, but when you're traveling and then you sit down on a chair that's super warm, do you actually get up and sit elsewhere? Because I do. I cannot sit there. I just got to move. It's a, what's it called? Germaphobe?

Germaphobe. Yeah. Yeah. So it doesn't bother either of you. If a seat is warm with someone else is sitting in that chair, you'll sit right down and stay there. I notice it. I'm like, ooh. A little, ooh.

So you do say, ooh, then. at least. I'm a little ew, but I'm not a germaphobe at all. I'm afraid I don't even notice it. Oh, wow. Good. Okay. All right.

Well, we go back to Quarks. Quark walks into his quarters. I have to, I have to distinguish Quarks Bar and Quarks quarters. Yes. Quark walks in. He expects another surprise. The lights are off, which I thought was funny. Very well delivered, Armin.

What is the first line that you've got there? Anybody here? The way that you set it? You're like, it was very funny. You played the subtext in a comedic way that I thought was very funny. Larell up here says someone is following her. She's so scared. So Quark hides her in a nice dark corner.

That's when the brothers come in. But the doorbell first, right? Doorbell first. Yes. And then they're breaking in. Yeah. And cork mimes stay here to Larell. So she stays hidden.

Cork sees the brothers, says the Latin movie here tomorrow. Then there's another doorbell that somebody. starts breaking in. So the brothers go hide and it's Hain. So it's a farce at this point. It's becoming a farce. Very three's company sitcomish going on here. Should Victor have shown us that they start to

go to where Larel is before Quark says, I think it's better if you go into the back. They did. I thought they did. They didn't do it. No, not really. Oh, really. Not really. I saw their heads move towards that direction. And that's all you saw. Yeah, that's it. But

I bought it, though, guys. Yeah, of course you did because that's what he says. I think it'll be better. We know that trope. Right. It would be better if you go over there. It could have been funnier if you had seen a more geography there. I see. A wider shot. I think it would have been. The trope would have worked better if it had been a little more of a stage picture of the geography and whoops, they start to go this way and then they run the other way. Right. But Hain comes out. Cork tries to signal to Hane. He's gesturing and Hane's like, what are you doing with your neck? Finally the brother to it. Yes. Why do you get to do it? Yes. Why do you?

doing that. Then the brothers come out and we realize as we kind of were starting to suspect that they all are criminals and they know each other. Hane reveals that they pulled the Lisepian Mother's Day heist. Yes. Famous. Lesapian Mother's Day heist, yes. Yes. And Morn helped. So Quark's starting to see this whole picture here. One of the thing that takes me out of episodes is the idea that they're going to kill Quark. Not that I'm attached to the character. I am, but not in that way. They're not going to kill Quark because Quark's a series regular. Yeah, right. And they're guest stars. It's just, whenever they say we're going to kill him, and then they always figure out a way for Quark to come up with

a reason not to be killed. But I go, there's just no threat there. There's just no danger there. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough one because you want to be able to tell stories where you feel like these characters could die. But we, yeah, we kind of know as a regular viewer of this show that Dax is not going to die in a shuttle accident, that worse not, well, Dax does die this year, I guess. Yes, but that was that, yeah, never mind. Yes, but yes. I mean, there are reasons, but never mind. But the characters don't, it is, it is not common at all, you know, for series regulars, for the story of them possibly dying to actually happen. It just. Yeah, I have been on shows where the

series regulars have died. Yes. And then you go, what? Um, but that never happens on Star Trek. No. Well, at the end of this scene, they decide they're all going to, you know, get the money and split it and go their separate ways. And Quirk thinks he's part of this split, but then they say, nope, not you, just us. We don't need you anymore. So we kind of go to a commercial on this jeopardy that you're talking about, Armin of, uh-oh, they're going to get rid of quark. But quirk, when we come back, he says, you can't kill me. You need my thumbprint. So Nossick pulls out a knife, which leads us to Quark, scream the scream. is amazing.

Oh my God. This is a replication of something I did in another episode. Yes. Yes. Where have I done this episode? I probably... We've heard to be screamed before. Yeah.

I did it. So it became sort of a trademark for me was... I don't know if they would say that he screams in this, but that it became a trademark for me to do this scream whenever he was in dire... Dyer... Well, you did... You established that and created it. And then in one of the previous...

previous episodes, we had other Ferengis doing the same scream. They started imitating, copying what you had established as a Ferengi scream. I wanted the camera to stay on you for the entire scream, all the screens. And it sort of gave a little glimpse of you, your face. And then it, you know, detract away. And I'm like, stay on, Armin, dang it. So anyway. Thank you.

It was a good scream. Great screen. Very good scream. Haynes stops them from cutting his thumb off and killing him for the thumbprint. because Hayne goes, you can't just walk in there with a bloody thumb. That's not going to work.

So they try to decide what they're going to do after they get the latinum. They're not going to kill Quark. Quark says split it five ways like they would have done with Morn. And they do agree. They kind of go, okay, it makes sense.

Quark says he's got to go run the bar until tomorrow when the money arrives and then he'll get it for them and they'll all split it, go their separate ways. So he's off to run the bar when we cut inside. the bar, they're all there. They followed him to the bar. They're not going to let him out of their

their site. They're there toasting. And it's just them. Correct? It's just them. There's no one else. And they're toasting to Quarks hospitality, which implies that they... Before you're going to, I don't know if it's just them. I think Broick is there. Oh, maybe. Okay. But it's not a full bar. It's... No, no, no, no, no. It's pretty quiet. It's them and possibly Broick. Okay. Yeah. It has to only be broik. I don't remember for sure. I could be wrong. So I think.

Oh, because he says they're closed. Yeah, because then Odo would have said like, really? Then why is that table number seven occupied? He would have said that for those other people. It is unoccupied except for the villains. Yes. And myself. Yes.

And possibly broek. Well, they're toasting because they're basically thanking you for buying them drinks, which you can see Quark's attitude here. Like, don't mention it. That's right. It was very funny. And as they talk, they realized they all assumed one of the others killed mourn. But none of them, they all say, I didn't do it.

I didn't kill them. So none of them killed mourn. I wonder if, again, pace, I wonder if it had been cut just quicker. I didn't do it. I didn't. Don't look at me. You know. Yes.

Yeah. When you and the other Ferengis have episodes together, the magnificent Ferengi episode is a great example. The pace that you guys play at. is brilliant. It's what makes it work. It makes the comedy work and that kind of tone work. Well, Odo comes in and they say, get rid of him. They tell Cork get rid of him.

So Cork says the place is closed. These are just Friends of Morn. And Odo asks, how long are you closed until? And Cork says, very pointedly, till 1,600 hours tomorrow. So he's, and Oda says, oh, I see. So Odo's picking up on their subtext. They're having a conversation without actually saying it. These are bad guys.

I need you to keep an eye on me, especially at 1600 tomorrow. And I think Renee played that brilliantly. He did. You went, uh-huh. And you could see him putting it all together. Clocking it. We cut inside the cargo bay where a large crate has been delivered, quark signs for it. It's an egg of latinum.

I love this, this container. of latinum. It looked like an egg to me and had a little port on it. Quark lifts it up. He leans inside when he's leaning in, taking in all this latinum. We see the gun muzzles raise into frame behind him. And then he leans back right into the middle of their muzzles. And they're pointing them at each other, not a cork. They're basically going to turn on each other in this moment. And they start shooting where cork dives inside the egg. Was that a double? I like that. No, no. That was me. That was you.

That's not the hard. Listen, I clicked my heels. I can do those things. Yeah, that's true. You did. Well, it was a great dive. You dive inside. The hatch closes behind.

Basically, Quark thinks he's safe. He's counting up all those, you know, just taking in all of this, all these bricks. The money, the money is everywhere. He's rich until the phaser shoots through the egg. And now he realizes he's in jeopardy. But then we hear Otto's voice off camera, says surrender, drop your weapons and they surrender. Odo arrest them for assault with intent to kill.

Quark has got all these bricks in his hand. He says, what you're about to hear is the most beautiful sound in the galaxy. And he's going to hit some bricks together, which he does. And they smash and crumble into dust. And there's no latinum inside the bricks. It's just junk. It's just gold. It's just gold.

Yeah. Armin, I have a question. So earlier when we see that one gold-pressed latinum, it is shiny, it is metallic, it's purely gold. Then you're in this egg. And every brick looks like matte painted, not shiny, and then they crumble? I'm so confused about what happened here. I don't know. There were different types of bricks.

They should have all looked the same, of course. Yeah, of course. But there were matte-painted wooden bricks, and then there were silver-shiny, metal bricks. As far as the construction of the props. So I would imagine the shiny one was the metal one and the ones inside the egg were all

the matte painted ones. Right. And I feel like they should have taken a matte painted one and put it inside the one that served as the single one because then it started to confuse me. I'm like, why are they having this type of gold and then you have breakable gold? It's props to that all the time. You know,

you've got a stunt prop, a rubber phaser and it doesn't look like the hard metallic phaser. Right. It looks like a rubber painted thing, you know. Right. And nowadays, you can go into post and kind of match those finishes in post if they didn't look identical real life.

But back during these days, DS9, Voyager days, they couldn't do that. It was too expensive. I must point out something I thought was good writing. In the scene with Dex, he takes the little strips and he would get the sound of them clinking. Yes. And then that's what you're expecting. And it does. And I thought, oh, they've set this up.

That's very smart of them in the Daxie. Yeah. Right. We cut to Corks where Cork is cleaning up at the bar. He tries to rip Morn's stool out of the ground. I was worried you were going to break the set there. Well, usually the stools were not attached to the floor. So they must have bolted that that stool to the floor.

Just for this bit. Yeah, just for this bit. Because usually the stool is removable. Okay. Well, Odo brings Morn in. He's not dead. He's alive. Faked his own death.

Quirk says, you've got a lot of explaining to do. And then just as Morn is about to speak, Quark cuts him off. No, no, no. I don't want to hear it. It's very funny. Basically, it's all quark talking here. Quark's mad, asked him what happened to latinum.

Eventually, Morn spits up some latinum from his second stomach. It was kind of gross. I was confused for a second. I'm like, what's happening? Is he turning into... I think that's the point. I think the point was you are supposed to be confused. All right.

One final bit of trivia. The noise mourn makes when he regurgitates the latinum took supervising sound editor, Mace Matiosian, several days of Foley recording, and over six hours of editing to complete. That's... Wow, is right. For one little...

Wow. I also liked how Quark said, all these guys got is this worthless gold. And then he says, he says something about a primitive. Yeah, I know primitive societies that think that this is valuable.

Yes. Perring to us. I love that. There's some perveter cultures who consider it quite valuable. Yeah. Very funny. Very funny. Very good.

Well, there you go. There you have it. Morn's not dead. Who mourns for Morn? And nor is Quark. No. Yes. And he has all his thumbs.

He does. You also have another question. Quark says after, you know, you've been keeping it in your second stomach all these years, that's a lot of latinum. No wonder your hair fell out. So is latinum is toxic? I'm not. I suppose so. Yeah. I mean, that's what we're made to assume, Gary. You're absolutely right. Again, new things, new information I had never knew before this episode. And I think that's the point. We learned more about more and his relationship with other characters. Yes. which I'm sure was a surprise to most of the other characters. Yeah. All right, Armand, do you have a theme or lesson or moral for this episode? I do. I do. I have actually three themes, if I remember correctly.

I love it. So the first theme is friendship has its ups and downs, but that's an easy one. This is the second theme. Rule of Acquisition number 21, never place friendship above profit. Or theme number three, rule of acquisition number 40, she can touch your lobes, but never your Latin. All good lessons. All good lessons.

The third one I think is the best. She can touch your lobes. Yes, I like that. Number three. Robbie, can you break off some wisdom of your theme, Laura? My theme is use your imagination when trying to solve a tricky problem. That's what I got out of that. There was a lot of imagination needed in this episode.

That's good, Robbie. And I'm going to go with my lesson is to never. trust a naked individual in a hot tub full of mud. Don't be fooled by a pretty face. A pretty face and a hot tub full of mud is. Yes. There you go. That's it.

We have a Patreon poll winner for theme slash moral slash lesson of this episode. Yes. That's submitted by Nicole Bratel. And that is, there is more to mourn than meets the eye. Oh, 100%. Yes. Thank you, Nicole. Thank you.

Yes. We also have an honorable mention. for theme and moral, and that's submitted by Amy MC, and that is greed is a leading cause of blindness. Okay. Okay. That's very wise. That's very funny, too.

Okay, thank you, Amy MC. Well, we have come to the end of our recap and discussion of the episode Who Morns for mourns for mourn. Thank you everyone for tuning in. And thank you to Armin yet again for joining us and co-hosting with us. Thank you, Armine. Yeah. Thanks, Armine.

My pleasure. And let us also forget. I started with this. I'm going to end with this. Let us thank Greg Gitz. Oh, yes. Yes. And Mark Allen Shepard for playing. And Mark Allen Shepard. Yes. All right. Well, Patreon patrons, please stay tuned for your bonus material. Everyone else, we will see you next time and we will recap and discuss the episode far beyond the stars with both Armin. Don't miss that. Don't miss that. Don't miss that. And that's going to be a double feature. We're going to have Armin and Terry on that one co-hosting with us. So that is going to be super fun.

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