The Delta Flyers - Workforce Part II

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Workforce, Part 2. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars. Workforce, Part 2:While the Doctor and Kim defend the ship, Chakotay must infiltrate the alien power plant and convince his abducted colleagues to return to Voyager.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, Bryan Fuller, & John EspinosaAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Michelle Z, Janet K Harlow, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, E, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Jenna Appleton, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Jamason Isenburg, Adm. Bill "Seoulman" Yu, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Zachary Upton, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Andrew Duncan, Lauren Wolffe, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Danie Crofoot, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Michael Dismuke, Jonathan Brooks, Gemma Laidler, Rob Traverse, Penny Liu, Matt Norris & Stephanie LeeAnd our Producers:James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Species 2571, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Aaron Ogitis, Ryan Benoit, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, Clark Ochikubo, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Will Forg, Ryan Tomei, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Christian Koch, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, Shane Pike, Jennifer B, Dean Chew, Akash Patel, Cameron Wilkins, Michael Butler, Ken McCleskey, & Walkerius LogosThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail].”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Greetings, everyone, welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry. As we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager, your two hosts along this journey are my fellow Voyager actor, Garrett Wong, who in 1995, acted in the indie film Flesh Suitcase. And myself, your favorite helmsman, Robert Duncan McNeil, aka R.D.M. Robbie D. McDunk, whatever you want. Remember, you can get the full version of this podcast and lots more bonus material, all the extras, when you sign up to become a patron at patreon.com forward slash the Delta Flyers. So, flesh suitcase. What are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you just jumping all over the place? You don't even go in chronological order. You pull whatever suits your fancy.

Like you're like, this seems interesting from his resume. Yeah, I'll just use this one. Yeah, a flesh suitcase, my goodness. What was that? It sounds like a porn. It sounds like a horror film. No, it sounds like a horror or porn film, but it's neither of the two. Flesh suitcase is a, it's a way to describe a human being that essentially

smuggles drugs into another country. Oh, that makes sense. You understand? So it's like taking the drugs in a balloon and the balloon is inserted into the rear side. Into the bum bum, yes. And so that's

essentially what flush suitcase is. Wow. So a drug thriller, maybe drama. Yeah, dealing with a drug connection in Thailand or something like that. So I was like the right-hand man to the main drug king pin, something like that. Yeah. So I was,

I was not the flesh suitcase itself. I was someone who would say, you will be a flesh suitcase. You get to be a flesh suitcase. So that's, I was the delegator. I got to delegate who was the flesh suitcase, who would be a flesh suitcase. I'm glad you weren't a flesh suitcase. Yeah, thank you. So, but it was, you know, it was just, again, one of those indie films, Indy films, really, you know, low budget. There's not that kind of business anymore. Like, there was a real business of those indie films and going to festivals or getting, you know, distribution on cable. Not as much.

Not as much, no. People just go and pitch the streaming platforms and get a jail. That's it, right? Yeah. Okay. 1995. That must have been after the first season or during the first season or around the first season. Yeah, right there.

Thank you for bringing up really random cards from my past. Welcome. You're welcome. Okay. All right. We're here. I can't, I can't wait. We're back to Workforce Part 2. Oh my God. I want to know. I want to know how does Janeway say goodbye to Jaffin? She's totally in love with this individual, clearly. Fast love. But, you know, and Chacote's trapped. He is. He's stuck. Up in the backside of the, the back lot of Paramount Studios. He's trapped there. He's trapped with a bunch of mosquito bites on his face, basically. Yeah, this is going to be, this is going to be crazy.

Okay, I can't wait. Let's go watch it. Let's go watch this. For all our Patreon patrons, stick around for your bonus material. And we will be right back with our recap and discussion. Oh, man. Okay. Wow.

I'm going to say, you know how people go to see a movie and it was a great movie? and then they go see the sequel, and the sequel, nine times out of ten, is horrible or not up to par. Like, it's very rare for a movie sequel to be as good or surpass. Very rare. Godfather's about the only. Godfather, maybe alien than aliens, you know? Maybe, yeah. Well, I felt like Workforce Part 2 was as good or better than Workforce Part 1.

Oh, and I'm also going to say. Here we will differ. Oh, no. Oh, okay. And I want to say why you rated Workforce Part 1 so highly. I was just thinking about it. And I kept thinking about it. And I realized because the true title of Workforce, Part 1 and 2, should be the best Paris episode ever, part 1 and part 2. Because it really is. It shows your character in such a positive light. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it really shows this. It's like your redemption, your final redemption. episode in a way. It puts a period or an exclamation on the point that on the on the fact that Harris has changed. He's not that bad boy anymore. He's a family man. No, he's just sits and watches cartoons and he likes to just sit at home and watch cartoons and take care of his wife. That's all he wants to do. And now that we've seen part two and part one. The other realization I did not come across

from the first one, is that Jaffin is Mark. Jaffin is essentially a doppelganger of Mark. I literally thought it was the same actor. No, this guy has the same voice and tone as the actor they cast as Mark. That's why she's so comfy. Completely. That's crazy. And I didn't put two and two together until I just started to really listen to the cadence of this actor playing Jaffer.

I literally thought it was the same actor. It's that same sort of voice, same, you know. everything and the hair and just the overall look those guys could be twins practically i feel so let's do our poetry because i just i can't start talking too deeply until i guess okay all right here we're poetry out there yeah see i i was so excited i i jumped again i know here's my haiku my haiku for workforce part two thank you a mall gets away voyager must find refuge Don Most arrested. I love that you got Rout the Mouth actor name.

Yeah, I could have said Caden, you know, because Don Most and Caden, that's his character. Same, no, Don most is funnier. Don most is funnier. Yeah. But hopefully no one tunes in and goes like, he was arrested, you know, and they think that I Not in real life. This is all pretend. This is all pretend.

It's haiku. We don't really fly in the Delta Quadron in space. No, we have to do it. Rubber in people's faces in case you were not sure. In case you're not sure. That's our disclaimer. Did you get my first line, my first verse? Amal gets away.

Yes. Because he was known as Amal Coet. Instead of Chakotay. He was Amau Quet. All right. Let's hear you. I didn't use his fake name in my poem. You used his real life name.

Okay. Go ahead. Here's my limer. Chocote. is undercover, trying to save the day. But Janeway's new romance might get in the way. The memory change plot is unearthed. The mind games are reversed.

As for a workforce, you can shove it, as we say. I wanted to take this job and shove it in there, but I couldn't. You couldn't figure it out, and then you squeeze it at the very end. I love it. You can shove it. That was nice. Yeah, nice, nice. Okay, let's add to our guest stars list and our co-stars list, because we have new people, actually.

Oh, yeah, we do. Yeah, we have Robert Joy, who guest starred on this as Jared. Love Robert Joy. Oh, my goodness. Since I was a young teenage actor, I was a fan of his. Oh, my goodness. He was in the movie Desperately Seeking Susan, classic 80s indie, cool, MTV film generation. Yeah.

Robert Joy was a big theater actor. New York. I knew him when I was in New York doing that thing. Love Robert Joy. Yeah. What was his first credit? It was a 1973 episode of Purple Playhouse. Not sure what that is, but 1973. Wow. So you were nine years old during his first credit. I bet he was like an adolescent or something. He was probably a kid himself or a teenager. Maybe. We also have co-stars. We have Jay Harrington. He played that young doctor, Ravick, okay? He was the, I know Jay very well. Oh, you know Jay, okay.

I do. I forgot he was in this episode. Didn't know Jay before he was on our show, but I ended up directing a couple seasons of a show called Summerland. Oh, he was in Summerland. A regular on. I got to know him very well on Summerland. And I feel like I worked with him again on either Desperate Housewives or Las Vegas,

one of those shows. Nice guy, though, nice kid? Really nice guy. I love Jay Harrington. Awesome. Okay, so his very first credit matches Manu Interamie's very first credit. What is it? An episode of Pacific Blue.

Oh, my gosh. Manu was in a 1997 episode. Jay was in a 1998. So the next, the following season, Jay was on Pacific Blue. And Jay is now, he's been in that show, is it SWAT or something? He's been in for like, so from 2017, yes, I wrote that down to. From 2017 to 2023, he has been. in 128 episodes of SWAT as Sergeant David Deacon K. Next up, we have Michael Barron's as

Coyote. Now, last episode, I said I couldn't find anything about him, so I skipped over him. Coyote's the guy who every time our ship, he comes over and tries to track to steal our ship. The fighter guy, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in the other ship and, you know, the doctor repelled him the first time. Okay, so I was just looking around and I was like, okay, is this him? Is that him? No. And then I did Michael Barron's images. And then boom, he's a very distinctive face. And I found a little news story. And it says, Michael Barron's named college finance director.

He was appointed as a director of financial operations and comptroller for the College of Liberal and Creative Arts for San Francisco State University. Wow. Yeah, this is a new story back in 2014. So clearly he's probably still there. So he went into like civilian life. He went in civilian life. But he's been teaching forever. Like he's taught, he is guest lectured at St. Mary's College, San Francisco Art Institute, California Art Institute, National Acting School of Finland, the Chinese University of Hong Kong, Zhu Hai University, Sun Yitzin University. So he's gone overseas to Asia to teach acting and drama and theater. I mean, it's unbelievable.

Wow. But he only lists one credit for TV. He says he worked on television shows like Star Trek Voyager. And then he was in plays at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. But then, of course, he went into. the life of an educator and working at, you know, colleges. And by the way, Oregon Shakespeare Festival in Ashland, Oregon is one of my favorite theater companies in America. It's a beautiful town. If anybody ever wants to see some amazing theater, go to Ashland, Oregon in the summer, go see a play there.

They've got a couple of theaters. It's a great company. I've heard so many good things about that. So many people who have so much praise about that. I really want to check that out myself. So thank you for voicing that. Okay, so next up after Mr. Michael Barron. So sorry, Michael, I did not get any information for you in the prior episode,

but I did find something for this episode. Good work. Yes, thank you. Joseph Will. Joseph Will played security officer number three. Now, it's interesting because Joseph Will has already acted on our show. Did he really? Yes.

Who was he? Well, this is what's so crazy. The guy that fights with Chakotay at the very beginning. The guy, you know, Jacote busts, he bust open that one light thing and then you see through the grading that there's two security guys. And one goes, wait for me. And he comes up to investigate. He notices the force field is gone. And then that's what Chocote. Yeah, he calls it in. Chocote fights him. That's Matt Williamson. But I also found nothing on him because I didn't go deep enough. He's actually now Matthew J. Williamson. He goes by that. He does not. So that's that Matt William. That's the guy that we see all the time. The guy that comes up the stairs and. phasers Chakote. You see him in the distance, but he's not clear at all. That's Joseph Will. Okay. He shoots Chocote. Chocote shoots him, knocks him out, and he's so far away, you never see his face, right? There's smoke and everything. But that is the guy that played Kellis, the poet, in Muse, the one that was with Lana, that was like, please give me more information about the Voyagers, those, you know.

But you know, I would not be surprised. Ron Serma, who did most of our episode of casting, all of it really on Voyager. Ron Serma would often give small parts to actors that he knew in the business that needed insurance. They needed to make their days. And it might have been that that actor who had done Mews said to Ron Serma, hey, I just need a day of something. It can be the, I don't care what. See, that feels that feels like it was it was. And Ron Serma was always great about that. A lot of those one-liners, one-off things were often just. for helping out those actors to get qualified for their insurance. Yeah, because I was wondering,

why would he be a guest star on Muse in 2000 and come back the next year in 2001 and play a co-star and now we know. And there you go. His first television was 1998 and episode of Frasier. That's his very first credit. Nice. And we may have already talked about him from Muse.

And then what's interesting with Joseph Will is that he goes on, after 1998 of episode of Frasier, he goes on to do a 1999 episode of Beyond Belief, Facter Fiction, hosted by Jonathan Frakes. So isn't this strange? He goes from Frazier to Frakes to Freaks, to Freak Show, and then to us as Mews guy. That's his third credit. No, it's funny about that. What?

They, my agent called me when they were creating Beyond Belief. I got a call. To do what? To potentially be the host, because I had done this e-enertainment. special and they thought i did a really good job hosting so they were like hey we're thinking about bringing you on to do this hosting thing and we started having conversations i was like holy crap this is going to be a great gig for me yeah a side gig yeah and then all of a sudden it disappeared and then it went to freaks and yes he became very famous for that but you know how did you follow

he was a he was a bigger deal i mean i was you know and i think they contacted me maybe in season two when they thought maybe our show was going to be a bigger hit and I would be a bigger host, but Frank's already had the big following with. Okay. Anyway. Okay. Beyond belief, yeah. Yeah, but really interesting how that happened.

Now, jumping to the next co-star list, it is Matt Williamson, who I did not talk about in the prior one either, I don't think. So he's security officer number two. He's the one that fights with Chikote. He also plays a Klingon in Endgame, our final episode. Oh, so we're going to see him again. Yeah, we're going to see him again. again, but I didn't even know that we even had Klingons in that episode.

So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. But he did co-star on the first season of Enterprise in 2001, and his first job was in 1999, a project called Swap Meat, which has no information. I don't even know if it's a TV show or feature film. Maybe it was actually a swap meet. That was his first job. He actually works at a swap meet.

Probably. That's probably it. He was selling Chotchkes. Yeah. Use T-shirts. and stuff. At the Santa Anita swap meet out of the racetrack. Mismatched dinnerware, things like that.

Okay. All right. And finally, we have DeMarre Riley. That's the last co-star. Demara played the alien surgeon. That's the one that was sort of like scanning over a Chakotay. The lady that kind of red-headed lady. She looks so familiar to me.

Yeah, she's done quite a bit of work. And you may have, you may have directed her as possible. Maybe. It's very possible. Or DeMara Riley's very first credit was a 1990 episode of the television series, Midnight Caller. Midnight Caller. Yeah. But DeMara Riley has definitely been working ever since then.

So I think maybe you might have known her from something you've done, possibly. All right. Writers and directors, we knew Roxanne directed this. Ken Biller and Michael Taylor? I should. But also, I should have stuck to my guns because I said like, because the story is still the two from the prior. episode. It is. Remember that? Brian? Yes. I was like, it's the same guys. You're like, it's not going to be the same guys. But it's not the same in terms of teleplay, right? The

teleplay was they added one of the person, Michael Taylor. They added Michael Taylor and Biller is still the same. Biller stayed in both of them as a writer. Brian Fuller was story on both, but got demoted to Just Story and Michael wrote the actual script itself with Kent. So, yeah, a team effort on this one, but I can't believe Brandon had nothing to with it i could have sworn from the first day one that this was a brandon idea you were shocked you were shocked well let's get into it yeah let's dive dive in chukote is stuck uh as the to be continued finished left him off he was standing on the edge of dead end on a on a like a stairway thing there was a force field there and then he decides to break the force field and i'm thinking he's

going to jump over. But instead, he breaks the force field thing to create like a distraction or yeah. Yeah, something to get their attention that something's happening up there to bring them up there. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the guards, yeah, one of the guards comes up. He feels there's no force field. He calls in, they deactivated the force field, but Chacote jumps him, grabs his weapon. The other guy comes up and shoots him in the shoulder, but he takes both the security guys out. So Chucote is injured, but he's gotten away. And all I could think of was they're fighting on those stairways in the back lot, the part that no one ever sees, the industrial side of those facades.

Anyway, it's those metal decks that are like, all I could think of, and I've done this, I remember having to do this before on sets that are built with that same material. They're hard. It hurts. It hurts. It's painful. It hurts. I know. They must have really been padded up there because that, You know, there's a great fight, hand-to-hand fight, but I think it hurt. We don't talk about that that often, but explain what padded up means to everybody. Well, they'll put pads underneath your costume.

So you'll have knee pads or hip pads or back pads or elbow pads, things like that. But sometimes the costumes aren't very stretchy to begin with. I don't think his was. And then you add those pads to it. And you're walking around like the Michelin. man or something like it's not easy so i thought they must have been patted up because those decks are nasty and they did a great job they did okay we go to space we see voyager flying along with a shield bubble around it force field of some kind uh being fired at by a couple of ships we go inside the bridge

and the doctor is in my seat. What? How dare you? Yes. Everybody uses my seat in this episode. You use it. Everybody uses it. Your seat really gets around.

It gets around. But Kim is back there working. I think you're a Tuvok station at this point. Maybe. I can't recall. You're somewhere, but Doc's in my seat. I made the note. Wow.

And you say, you know, you can't. penetrate their shields. Yeah. So they're firing at you. And then suddenly the doctor says he recalls in his tactical database when the Romulan's disabled to attacking vessels by creating a photonic shockwave. He thinks of this like that. Kim asks, how do you do that?

And the doc says, watch and learn. Mm-hmm. Which will come back. We'll come back to. Yes. He fires a photon torpedo and then detonates it with some phaser fire. and it creates a shockwave, hits the ships, and off they go. Boy, is the doctor proud of himself when he does that?

Woo! He's so happy. And I thought in this moment, he repulsed two attacking attack ships faster than our entire crew can do it. We have been in deeper doo-doo with the whole crew working on it than when the doctor just, boom. But anyway, it seemed pretty easy what he did. Are you, is that a vote for AI from you? I don't know. I don't know.

It's a vote for convenient, convenient, easy repulsion. But the doctor did it. He's very proud of himself. Five more ships come in. So we're like, we're out of here. Yeah, we're out of here. Yes, we have to retreat. Yeah.

We go into the bar, Chakote comes in holding his shoulder, sits down at a table. And Janeway comes over and says, you know, sorry about my friend being rude, Jaffin. She checks on him. Is he okay? And then she invites him to go have a meal with them. Just to sit with them. To sit with them or celebrate. And Chacote says, what's the occasion?

She says, well, I've decided to move in with Jaffin. Now, two things here. First of all, I felt my heart for Chacote. I felt so sad for him. He looks so sad. And I felt poor Chacote. That was number one. Number two, who has a party and celebrates when

you're moving in with me. Like, I could see if you, like, got engaged or like, it's your birthday or you got a promotion, but like, hey, we're moving in together. Let's have a party. Yeah, people have a party that want to torture Chikote. That's who has a party to celebrate. I felt he was, his mind was thinking about how am I going to convince this person that

she is Captain Janeway and the fact that the whole moving in. thing. I thought he was thinking, okay, I can go hide in her vacant unit. Oh, that didn't occur. I know he does that, but that didn't occur to me. I thought maybe that's what it was. I was down on the emotional track on that. Okay. That's fine. Yeah, it is sad. Yeah. Speaking of emotions, we cut over to the bar. Robert Joy, our detective, Yared steps over, starts talking to Tom and wants to know about the pregnant woman who's disappeared. And Tom is really concerned right away. He even yelled, at the detective at the yard at one point he yells this city is supposed to be saved yeah that i was wow why why did ste why did i yell okay that that's my same question do you remember what you

were doing that i mean what did you think your whole thing was i think this is an option there is like oh my god she's in trouble but then it doesn't go anywhere from there then we go back to calm talking like you were scolding him and and in real like if you were being interviewed by a law enforcement officer, you probably would not yell at them like that. Right. So I was just, I didn't know. But that's how much he loves Palana. He doesn't care. He doesn't even know the He doesn't even know, but he knows. He knows. Hey, did you talk to Robert Joy on set a bit about how much he liked his work? I did. I remember. Yeah, I remember talking to him about New York days and some of the theaters and shows that back in the day that I had loved have been really inspiring and

couple things that I'd seen him in. Yeah, we just, we had a really good conversation. It was a, it felt very familiar hanging out doing a scene with him like the New York actors I remembered back in the day. I love it. Yeah, it was great. Yerid questions him more about B'alana's missing. The detective Yerid says that there was a short guy with modeled skin and facial hair that that had talked about her. And Paris says, oh, that was the guy that was here earlier. And he his name and and then the detective says anybody else with him and Harris goes oh yeah there was this other guy sitting right over there we turned back to where Chacote was and he's gone so first of all Paris is spilling the beans here is he is a nice guy but he's kind of like you know he's letting

everyone smart yeah you're just airing the dirty laundry right now telling everything we go to space we see a moon shot of Voyager hiding in the crater shadow kind of thing Yeah, I like that. It was very cool. Over that space shot, we hear a doctor's log. I've never heard a doctor's. Well, we haven't had an ECH log. We've had a doctor's log, but not an ECH log.

Yeah, we have a ECH log. He says that we can hide at this moon because the paramagnetic core masks our signature. Now he's turned his attention to being a doctor and helping Torres recover. Can I try? Can I try his line? Let me just try it. Yes, yes. ECH log.

Star Date 54622.4.4.622.4. I found it ingenious place to hide while we make repairs, a moon with a parabagnetic core that masks our energy signature. I've turned my attention to Lieutenant Torres, whose treatment will also require ingenuity, ingenuity. All right. Thank you for that. That's good. Thanks. Appreciate it. That's the crowd going off. I was like, are you, are you yawning? What's happening right now? No, that was okay. Oh. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. That's not.

Okay. We cut into Sick Bay and he's looking at some like MRI readings of her brain and talking about her last physical and then how her brain looks now. It's been radically altered, he says. Neelix is very concerned. I love when Neelix gets sensitive and emotional. So Neelix says, I'm going to take her on a whirlwind tour of her life. I'm going to remind her of, you know, who she used to be.

Yeah. By the way, this whole scene was a oneer, and I thought, Alan Craker style, these two parts are feeling like similar vibes because the staging of this and the camera moves of this scene reminded me of an Alan Craker scene. And so I thought that was really smart for Roxanne. Roxanna do that, yeah. Yeah, agreed. We go down to an establishing shot of the corn surface. By the way, I wanted to say in this, just a general establishment. it blows by quick, but I noticed the little tiny people moving and it's a Dan Curry

classic move. And I remember, I did this with, I worked with Dan on the TV show Chuck. He came on to do our visual effects and he'd always say when we're building these kind of poor man's environments, these establishing shots of places that we don't really have, that if you just add a couple tiny people walking somewhere, the audience just buys it. And that, They overlook all of the other imperfections. Their attention goes to, oh, there's somebody walking or who's that? So I just noticed not much. There was only one or two little tiny people, but he added that in.

So I totally bought that Dan Curry establishing shot. Now we're in the medical facility with Tuvok. Poor Tuvok. Yes. Tuvok has sort of got the Harry Kim treatment. Everything happens to Tuvok. Or Tuvok. Or two vogue.

I feel a little bit like, in this episode, by the way, we end with him being in big jeopardy at the end of the previous episode. We don't really visit him that much anymore. Like this whole episode, you hardly see what they're doing to him or? No, clearly they're messing with his head. They're messing with his head. This is Jay Harrington's first scene.

I was excited to see him. He's talking with Don Most about he's got acute anxiety, Ravok says, depression. he says when he interviewed him he was he was not sure he's supposed to be here that we've stolen his katra he says whatever that is so he's got some vulcan memories a little bit yeah yeah basically uh the head doctor suggests this resequencing and a engrammatic resequencing which is a radical procedure ravoc says and i thought oh no two bucks going to be permanently damaged from this yeah and the syndrome that they're calling it is dysphoria syndrome.

This is what Caden has come up with, this made up, you know, affliction that they all have. Yes, where you don't know reality, supposedly, although they do know reality. But I do get the sense at the end of the scene that Ravoc's a good guy. Yeah.

This young J. Harrington doctor or intern, whatever he is, he's going to be a good guy. I get a sense. Okay, so the next thing we see is kind of like a Borgube flashback. Well, we don't know this yet, but seven standing in that factory set, looking down at the catwalks and things, but it's created this like BorgCube memory of a similar environment. Yeah. And so she's very, you know, kind of thrown by this, goes into the supervisor's office, walks in and immediately all she tells, she barges in and says, I want to know the status of employee 8583. Same rude seven.

She may have lost her memory. but she has no etiquette of same rude seven yeah yeah okay the supervisor even comments on it he's like well maybe where you come from you can talk like that but here it's polite to say good morning yeah she does yeah she wants to know about too well she she says she thinks that maybe his condition is contagious because he's talking about how he's having these flashbacks and all of a sudden she has that flashback, seeing the board cue. So she's just wondering if there's any type of, you know, if this is something he's passed on.

Right. She talks about he came in contact with other workers. Other people have expressed concern. That's what Seven's telling to the supervisor, whether or not she believes that, probably not, right? She's just trying to get to the bottom of this. Yeah. And the supervisor says, don't worry about it.

Tell them it's nothing to worry about. And then suddenly the detective pops in. And I noticed in this moment, he comes in a door that's sort of behind them. He has to come in the door and lean around one side of them when he says, excuse me, am I intruding? But then he goes around to the other side to the rest of the scene. And it just reminded me of so many times, I'm sure you remember, where we would be asked, hey, when you come in, can you kind of go on that side and

move over here? And it made no sense. Like, why would I go all the way over there? The only reason I'm doing it is to clear, you know, to be not blocked in the shot. but it makes no natural sense. That was one of those moments. I was like, oh, Robert Joy, he got asked to pop in on one side. You can even see him leaning.

They were molding us like clay figures in a way. Yeah. You know, it was quite bizarre. Yeah. I felt for Robert Joy in that moment. I was like, I'm sure he did not want to lean around. But anyway, he comes in. He says he's investigating some employees, Neelix and Torres.

Because Seven says they both failed to report to work today. And then Yerod shows Chakote's photo and Seven recognizes him as employee 9363, but he didn't show up either. Of course she does. And then we discover that he thinks that Chacote is the reason that others are disappearing. So he's looking for this Chacote like he's a fugitive. Right. Then we go to an establishing shot of the apartment building at 9. night and inside Jaffan's apartment, Janeway is unpacking. She's moving in. She has a whole lot of

stuff for somebody who seemed to have just gotten to this planet. Tons of stuff. It's just like, it's crazy. And by the way, they had all this like packing paper, like, you know, tossed around. Like she'd unpack boxes with the packing paper. Yeah. But I haven't seen a single tree on this planet to make paper from. So I don't really get the packing paper. It seems like in the future you wouldn't use packing paper. You'd use something else.

And she lives in the same building. Would you really cover your stuff in packing paper to move it from one unit to another? Yeah, a lot of drama for like probably a suitcase that she should have brought. It is a cute scene when he picks up the spent plasma relays.

It says you collect spent plasma relays. And she's like, well, I like to think of it as a decorative object. So I thought it was well written. It was cute. It was very very romantic comedy kind of writing. Yes. In my estimation. Yes. But you're right. Why all that paper? Like what? Yeah. The paper with a little, yeah. Then we go to Janeway's apartment because she says as she leaves, she says, I have to go get the rest of my things. Right. That sounds like, wait, there's more. Yeah. She has a lot of stuff. Anyway, we go to her apartment. It is dark. She walks in the door.

My first thought is, why don't you turn on a light to see what you're digging for? She doesn't turn on a light. It's her apartment. She knows where it's at. I mean, I walk in my office. Yeah, but then the reveal of Chacote would never have worked, right? You would have seen him immediately. Or no, you could have shot it so that you couldn't see him, right?

Yeah, you're right. I just didn't buy that part. Yeah, she's looking around for something in the pitch black. Yeah. And she pulls up a cloth, but I didn't know what it was. I thought it was like a T-shirt or something until the lights come on. Yeah. Then you know it's blood.

And then you see that it's blood. And there's Chikote with his gun pointed at her. And that's our act out right there. We come back and he gets up, closes the door, turns the lights out again. Do you think he needed to point the gun at her in the first place? Why is he good? Okay. She doesn't know him.

Okay. Well, she does from the factory. Yeah. Yeah, but they don't have trust. She doesn't know him, know him. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I made a note that I wish when he got injured that that alien disguise had started to dissipate. Yeah. Oh, that would have been nice. Because then she could have been like something. Hey, it's changing about. Yeah. That could have helped trigger something.

Yeah. But even though he was injured and suffering a lot, his alien disguise was staying exactly the same. Yeah. And I know later on he does a. a moment where he reveals the disguise so maybe they wanted to save it for that but yeah i just thought it would have been cool to see like he's injured he's getting weaker i don't know there was a pitch if we can go back and reshoot it i think that'd be great yeah anyway they talk

and they're talking about the disappearance of that woman balana and chikote explains that she was brought here against her will and she had forgotten her real life and when they're talking about I did notice outside the set, outside the window, was like a beautiful backing. And what I mean by backing is when you build a set, if you have windows, if you don't put something outside, it's going to look like a stage wall. You're going to see all the equipment and everything. So they hang these giant, you know, nowadays it's photography, it's photographs of backings. But back then, they could be painting, you know, painted backings or some.

What was the backing of in that scene? It was a beautiful, like, quinkly city. And I was thinking, you couldn't really make out the detail, but I bet they just rented a backing like you would use on any modern show, you know, of a nighttime view of whatever. Yeah. And we never did that. We never rented backings, but because we couldn't use them on a space show.

You couldn't use, like, you know, a New York City backing or a view of things. but this one was so sort of twinkly and just generic, it fit outside, and it was just beautiful. I thought it was really beautiful. And it worked. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. My attention went to the backing.

I don't even know what they were saying. But Chikote says, you know, that he's here to help other people in the city, not just Bologna. And I'm even here to help you. And she says, but you're pointing a weapon at me. And I made another note here about the weapon he was using. do you remember whenever we go to planets they wouldn't build alien weapons every episode because it costs way too much yeah so they would take these they would take these existing weapons yeah pre-existing props and pull something off throw something on stick a new little do he here

you know rework that yes so it's a reworked weapon is what you're saying and i noticed in this episode there's an inconsistency of the weapons like the one that the choket has here has kind of two tubes on it and things like that. And then the one that Yerid, Robert Joy's character uses, doesn't have any of that. Yeah. It was just recycled mix and match props. But it was just that was a moment where I was like, oh, I feel like we've seen this

weapon before. Like it was a Kazan, a Kazan phaser or something. Yes. Modified to be now a weapon for this, for this episode. Okay. So Chakote does say basically there's a lot of innocent people and I'm here to help. and she says, well, first we've got to do something about this arm. And so she's concerned about his injury.

Yep. Back to our moon crater and then into Torres and Paris's quarters. And it starts on a photograph, a photograph of the two of them with champagne glasses. And my first thought was, how did they get this photo? Like, there's nobody else in the shuttle with them. This is a still photo. Like, did they take a selfie? Do they have a selfie stick?

Harry took it. No. because they're in the shuttle. I'm just messing with you. They're by themselves. I know what they did. They took us a still image from the episode. Yes.

From the episode drive where we were having champagne. They took a still of that. And made that like a photo that you took as a selfie or posed for. Yeah. But no one would have taken it. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

You're Mr. nitpick on this one. In fact, Neelix even says in the scene, he goes, oh, that picture was taken on your honeymoon. Who took it? You took the picture. Anyway. Okay, that aside, that aside, that inconsistency or that whole aside, this was a great scene.

This really was. This is a scene of introducing basically Torres bit by bit into her old life. Neely's there to support her. And the fact that Roxanne has to direct and also, I mean, I think there was more acting in this episode for her to do than there was in the first episode. yeah for sure some more depth for sure and oh she was great

on this episode oh my god she was so good and in this scene you know when she just when she has that realization she's like he watches cartoons

just her cadence just the way she approached it as an actress not as a director as an actress was top notch I was very impressed with this scene

yeah it was good I will say to me it was a very sweet scene it played a little slow to me I felt like it was like In fact, I would say my general criticism of this episode is it's very slow compared to the first one.

It's just everything is very, I don't know. It felt very slow to me. I have no problems with that whatsoever. Really? Oh, my God. I wanted it to be slower. I wanted more slow. Give me more of that slow scene, you know?

It was slow. It was slow for me. I was like, okay, I get it. I get it. I had the feels, man. When you get the feels, it doesn't matter how slow it is. I was just, I was enjoying it. I was bathing in it.

It literally was. It was like a nice bath. And when that scene ended, I was like, dadgum it, I want more bath. Wow. Well, she does realize that Tom, the bartender was so protective of her because in real life they're married

and have all this history. So she does realize at the end. Yeah. And you're not even in this scene, but this is character development for you right here. You know, so come on. This is a good scene. Good scene.

We go back to the Power Edition. distribution plant. Janeway is trying to steal a medical thing to help. To help she's Hote. How does she have that in her? Is that? Whose locker is that? Is that her locker? I think it's like a first aid kit on the wall. No, I think it's a first aid kit on the wall. Oh, no. I thought it was their own worker locker that she went into. But you're saying it's a first aid kit. Okay. I think it's just a first aid station in that in that work area. Right. But seven pops in and says, you can't take that. Yeah.

But she popped in like every high school drama where the person's opening their locker. And as they close it, the person's standing right there, right? Yes. That gimmick was used. Yes. Yes, it was. Janeway says, this is for Jaffin, you know, my boyfriend. He's too stubborn.

I'll just bring it back in the morning. Yeah. And Seven says, okay, be sure you do, though. And the supervisor, Seven sees the supervisor leave his office. So that's why she wants to get into the office. So she lets Janeway take this thing. Yeah. Once she sees Baxter, I mean, not Baxter, the guy that played Baxter and the supervisor.

Yes. That's her main concern. She needs to get to the bottom of her mystery. So she lets Janeway take the medical thing. She'll go to it. It's going to be okay. We go in the supervisor's office and seven is trying to hack into some of the files that he wouldn't let her see. She does have the security clearance.

They display all these files. And the one thing I noticed at the end, the computer starts listing all the files of employees that arrived since Tuvok arrived. And it's all of our Voyager extras, our regular extras in the big file. But the computer gives them names, gives one Nazawa Kashimuro. It's given that name before. Nazawa's been given before. Really? What about, what's the other one?

McKenzie, William. That was Richard. That was Richard Starrsted. Yes. Because it highlighted. So he got a name. I got a name. A lot of our Starfleet extras got character names.

They don't have names, got a name here. They got character names in this, the computer listed them off. So I was very happy that everybody got an official name. I agree. Janeway's apartment? Yeah. Yeah. So it's still dark in there.

And that's the other thing, man. Shooting in all that dark lighting was kind of cool, to be honest. So you don't see a lot of. that. So I'm very confident on Roxanne's part as a director. So in this scene, she's tending to his wound. And I got to say, does she have that, does she have that thing on low power mode? I mean, it takes forever. She's scanning it and scanning it. It should have been, it should have been done already. You know what I'm saying? It took her a while to scan it, but they had to get out all this story, you know. So the story has to happen. He's talking about Voyager and the ship

that they live on. They've lived there for seven years. That he lives on, yeah. That he lives on, you know? Right. And he does say, you seem really happy here, which I agree. Like Janeway seems very, very happy. Very much so. She thinks her job is challenging enough. She doesn't want all this responsibility. And then suddenly, Chakotay's subdermal communicator goes off. She's like, what's that? He says, my people trying to contact me. And he starts talking. Now, my first thought is, if you're going to be wearing the super secret communicator under your skin, don't you want to turn it on mute or vibrate or something? Like if it...

He has it on vibrate. I can turn my cell phone to vibrate, but his sub-dermal super secret communicator chirps three times. Okay, fine. You have another valid point. Man, you've been so picky on this app, haven't you? You've been grabbing it left and right. But it's true.

You know, you're a thousand percent right. I'm not arguing against it. As I heard that chirping, I'm like, they could call him at any moment and he could be trying to lie covers, you know, with the super security people. Yeah, yeah, it could be interrogating him. Suddenly, his arm starts to chirp and they're like, wait a minute. Put it on vibrate, dude. Anyway.

So Kim, you start to hear, you hear Kim's voice. And I forgot it's coming It's coming through underneath his skin So it should be muffled It should be like Are you okay? Yeah Cabando, are you okay?

That's instead of Are you okay, commander? You should have heard Are you okay, commander? And that would have been really funny. So that whole conversation happens Kim's telling him what's going on Chikote says, is there any way

you can get me out of here? Kim says no, we're actually eight light years away. Chikote is a little confused. How are you transmitting the signal? The doctor says we're using a tri-axilating frequency on a covariant subspace band. It was Bologna's idea. Chacote says, oh, I guess she's feeling better. And

the doctor says, yeah, she's responding well to treatment. So Kim does ask the million dollar question. Have you located anyone else from the crew? And Jacote thinks about it for a second. He goes, well, yeah, I'm sitting with Captain Janeway right now. So Janeway now realizes

what he was saying is true. Right. But she's still... But that revelation to her is like someone threw a you know a bucket of ice water on her head it was like it was literally just oh my gosh me kind of a thing the conversation goes on a little bit longer we need to get repairs done when you get everything ready to go we can get back there take a couple of days Kim does ask about the shield grid and Chikote says that he has an idea of how to shut it down but he wants to get back which is going to come back to hunt them that's part of their plan but

they're going to that's going to be used against them later the conversation ends and Janeway says, why did you call me Captain? Chacote says, because that's who you are. But then this is where she flips out. She goes, you know what? What? No, this is crazy. I mean, you're saying, I've been manipulated.

My memories? No, I don't believe this. And she's just incredulous. She can't believe this is really happening because she has had no flashbacks, like Tuvok or seven. Yeah, yeah. She's literally happier than she's ever been. her life in seven years. This is the happiest she's been.

She loves it. She's given the time of her life. So, Jacote decides to prove it to her, and he works over in front of a mirror, scans. Takes it off. Yeah, uses the dermal regenerator to take off all the ridges.

And she's like, oh, my God, we're the same race. And when he turned to her and said, we're more than that. And there's that pregnant pause. I thought he was going to say something else. But he said, we're friends. But I, yeah. If you're a JC shipper, you're thinking,

No, he's going to say something else right here. We're more than that. Yeah. We're in love. Why didn't he say that? Why didn't he say that? I thought there was going to be a whole love triangle thing happening. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

We cut to Jaffin's apartment. Fenn and Janeway's explained what Chikote said, and Jaffin can't believe it. No. You can't help this guy. He's abducted one of your workers. And then Jaffin is like, you want to help him? you want to go do you want to go with them do you want to i was like jealous much yeah yeah it's a little jealous here it's response jamie's response is also a little cryptic just the way how

she said it when she's do you want to go with them and she's like no i did the way it came out of her was just it was very gutteral a little extra yeah it was a little extra i wasn't sure what what she was going for there but it was interesting that's my notion she did have great hair again in this scene in particular this whole episode both episodes So she has great hair. Fluffy great hair. I love that. We go back to Janeway's apartment.

Chocote is pacing and then the door's opened. And he thinks, he's expecting Janeway, but it's Yared with some security guys. And they've got three guns on him. He tries to grab. Yeah. He tries to grab his gun, that prop. His caseon weapon? The reused Kazon weapon?

Reuse Kazon prop. But he gets shot and takes a very nice fall. I thought this. I like that fall. Yeah. He did it without jazz hands. He didn't do the Broadway fall that I did. Only you do jazz. Only you do the jazz. No, it was good. It was very good. Yeah. And then we're in the hospital. And Chikote is being shown pictures of Torres and Nelix.

He's being interrogated. This is what this is. Interrogation. And he says, no, I don't know these people. No clue. Never seen him before. Yeah, it doesn't believe him. No. He thinks that. But Chacote is behind this. And Chacote's like, look, you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not the man you're looking for. And Yerud's like, well, because now Chacote's got his human features, right? He's like, yeah, you don't fit exactly. But I think that once our doctorate examines you, we'll find evidence of dermal regeneration.

And this is when the lady surgeon then gets hit off of. She finds the communication device implanted under his skin. right here it says remove it get it out of there chocote's kind of begging at this point listen to me you know you got to trust me we've got something in common yeah yeah we both are investigating these disappearances you know i'll help you if you help me basically then j harrington enters with some security yes he does or actually they're their security from the institute because they don't look like the other security guys you know what i'm saying they're they're the security of the neuro neuropathology institute i think yeah yeah so yeah so

Jay Harrington comes in and he says, I got to transfer the patient to Division 6. Basically, Yared says, well, this man is a suspect in a serious crime. I can't let him out of my sight. Jay Harrington says, check the order. It's been approved by the director of investigations. So this is a whole, you know, this whole setup they've got with taking people's memories goes bigger than, you can see that Yerad is not informed and not the top dog here. He's discovering. Yes, and also not part of the conspiracy or not part of the, you know.

Yes. He doesn't know what they're doing. The web of intrigue, yes. Up until this point, I thought Robert Joy, Yared was a bad guy. And in this scene, I felt like, oh, he's not a bad guy. Yeah. He's not the enforcer. No, he's just trying to do his job.

As everybody else. Yeah. And I made a note, maybe he's going to be a good guy. Well, okay. Good note. But while he's being wheeled away, Chikote does throw that last volley. You know, as I'm Chikote. I'm on a Federation Starship Voyager.

Members of my crew have detected. Look into it. Blah, blah, blah. And he's gone. And we end on Yeritt's face. And Yerat's definitely thinking like, hmm, the wheels are turning. He's feeling like something is a miss. Yep.

Yep. Yeah. We go to the mess all next. And Nelix has a fancy flourish with some pancakes. A nice little, we come in on pancakes and then we see him kind of. swing it around a bit and give it an elegant flourished for Torres. And that's what Torres likes to eat, pancakes. This is part of her thing.

Yeah, pancakes and maple syrup are your favorite breakfast. Mm-hmm. Neelix says. She eats them, loves them. She's reading something. Neelix asks what you're reading. She says, personal logs. And Neelix thinks she's reading about her own logs.

Yeah. And she goes, no, they're Tom's. And Neelix is like, wait, that's, that's, that's private. She goes, well, he is my husband. And then, and then Nielis is like, hmm, what do they still? Yeah, he was now. He's like, nope, private, I can tell you. But then she goes, but the way he describes me.

And again, what, the way she, you know, how she acted in this scene was so good. And Neil was like, oh, he loves you. And she's like, yeah, I guess so. So she's finally realizing how much Tom Paris goes to bat for her, you know, and how he feels about her, how he puts her ahead of everyone else pretty much, even hair. Yeah, she's learning all of this and reading his logs, and it's all kind of coming back to her, this realization. And did she cry at the end of this?

Did she have a little tear or something? It was just very sweet. It was very, I like this scene a lot. This one didn't feel slow to me. Oh, good. Yeah. Maybe she did. Maybe she did have a little bit of teary.

Yeah. But it was very sweet. We go to the ready room with the doctor. and Harry, and the doctor starts sitting in the captain's chair in her office. It's just like, oh, my God. Classic. Classic, classic doctor overcompensating move. But he's sitting there.

He says he's been analyzing the Corps and patrol ships and devised a way to evade the sensors. And Harry gives him a compliment. You do have a knack for tactical planning. They're still kind of snarky with each other. I love this whole runner with the doctor. Harry and the whole thing in the way it works all the way through yeah and you even said this when we reviewed the first episode part one you were like well maybe it'll have a resolution you know because I was talking about it does and it does it really does but but it's it's funny because

the doctor in this scene suggests that he wants Harry to help him reprogram his program to to be more you know more than the medical hologram and more of a command hologram really is what he wants to do. And Harry kind of calls him out on that, you know, and he's just like, yeah, you, you just, you would like command so much. You don't want to go back to your old job. And, and, you know, the doctor does say, well, I am skilled. I'm a skilled officer. And Kim calls him out. He says, no, this was programmed into you. It's not like wisdom that you've had multiple missions. You've got files. Yeah. You have, you've just files about what other people did, you know, and that's pretty much your knowledge. But the doctor does agree with that.

He understands. And so there, again, it's still sort of, it's, there's still this sort of head-to-head going on here between the two of them. Yeah, definitely. There's still some conflict there in a good way. It was fun, fun to watch. Yeah. We go to the corn medical facility next. And Chikote has this kind of, it's a close-up of him. He's got this kind of helmet thing on or this. Yeah. surgical he looks like he's lying down it's hard to tell because he's right side up in the frame but as the camera pulls out yeah uh we realize he's talking to voyager right and it's got this twist to it that we realize he's not standing up he's lying down yeah and he's being manipulated too did you like that shot yes i like that shot very much the thing i i really noticed about it i know the tool they

had to use to get that shot it's called a three axis head and back when we made voyager it was very rare the TV shows used a three-axis head. They were expensive and time-consuming. A three-axis head basically means it can pan, it can pan side to side. It can tilt up and down. Yeah. And it can rotate like this. So that's the third axis. All those things at once. You can rotate while you pan and you tilt. Right. That's the three axes. So she pulled out of a close-up and rotated and widened out and boomed down and untilted and it was a very tricky shot and very ambitious shot especially for our show at the time we didn't use those tools very often so I thought good on her to do something different it's kind of revealing that he's not right side up correct metaphorically

he's not standing up you know he is actually lying down yeah under some sort of hypnosis yeah he's being he's brainwashed he's completely saying things things under being forced under duress, basically. Yeah, and he's drawing them into an ambush. He's telling Voyager, come on in, it's safe. Yeah, I'll let you know. He says, like, you're going to shut down the shield grid. I'm sending you the encrypted instructions, and then you see the hand with the alien pad

sending the encrypted instructions, telling you where to enter orbit, and, you know, this is the best place to go. So Kim says, yeah, we have a commander. And for all intents and purposes, Kim thinks, well, it is Chikote's voice. So he doesn't know that it's not him, right, at this point. But we have the wrong information. Yep. And then Coyote is there.

And he says, I'll have three ships. They won't escape. So it seems like we're in an ambush. And then Ravoc comes in, Jay Harrington. And he says, you know, I've been thinking to his boss, the head doctor guy I've been thinking maybe we should issue a health alert about this

because it's happening to multiple people and Don Most gets really offended here he's like you think I'm an idiot like I'm taking care of this don't worry about it and Ray Vox says I'm sorry I apologize

and so Cadence feels like he's you know gotten him off the scent of this conspiracy that they've got going But I felt like, yeah, at least Ravik tried. We go into the bar. Our detective, Yerat is there and talking to seven. The detective basically says, why is Tuvok trying to get this information on co-worker?

And Seven says, you know, I don't know either, but one of them was Bolonikora, is the one that's disappeared. And Seven reveals that 136 others, including myself, when you began and working. and working the same day. I was like, oh, is that our current numbers? That's my note. I'm like, we got the number. So now we know the exact number. What is the exact number?

It is 136 plus, Chakotay. No, no, wait, wait, wait. Is she counting Chikotay in the thing? No, no, okay. So Chacote, Neelix, and Harry. So it's 139. 39.

Right? Yeah. You're not counting the doctor. So 139. No. So 139. crew members plus a hologram. Now we know what we have left.

Now we know. At least we know for this episode. Yeah. Anyway, they talk about how unusual it is that you'd get so many at the same moment from the same species. It just is weird and we all came through the same neuropathology, which just there's a lot of suspicion here. Tom comes over and he says, you know, did you find out anything about Boulana?

So again, on his track, he's just worried about Bolana. Well, Seven says he can't help you. He's been relieved of duty. In Paris, it's a little dismayed. He's like, oh, okay. And that's when Seven says, well, this man is also in Tuvok's file. So talking about you. And then Paris is like, wait, what are you talking about?

And she goes, and Seven even says, why don't you tell him? And Paris is like, tell me, tell me. Tell me what? Tell me. And Europe says, you're, it says, no, I've got to get back to the hospital. No, he says, I can't go back to the hospital and start asking questions, yeah. He says he can't go back and Seven says maybe she can help, but I'm like, why can't Tom help? He keeps going, what file?

What, tell me what? What do you guys talk about? You're like, just tell him something. I know, tell him something. You're really good at- You can help you guys. Space doesn't make you sick. That's what they should have said to you.

You're a good pilot. A seven is now. office and seven says that she's been experiencing some you know upsetting thought she doesn't think it's serious but she just wants to speak to someone and that's our act out okay so we come back we're still in the office with seven and and ravic he's looking up some files she gives her employee number 8586 and he says oh yeah you've been here before and she confirms yeah when when she first arrive and he says, yes, you had dysphoria syndrome. Oe ve. Enough with his dysphoria made up syndrome. She can't remember anything. He's like, I don't remember that. Yeah.

And she said, well, I really want to speak to the expert about this. And he goes, you know, Dr. Caden's very busy. She says, well, so am I. I'll just wait until he returns or until he's free. And Ravik says, okay, well, you wait here. I'll go find him. I'll go find him. He's probably cashing some checks, residual checks from Happy Days, but he'll be right back. Okay. So, Ravitt goes, Jay Harrington leaves and Seven's left alone for a minute, and she gets to hacken. Hacking that computer. Looking up files. That's what she's doing. Yeah. And then we're in Jaffin's apartment next. And yeah, the detective shows up. This is where actually Janeway is looking out at that backing. This is where... Oh, the backing.

staring out at that back. I'm like, that's a beautiful shot. But I know it's all, it's not green screen. It's a, they just put a, you know, an old Hollywood backing out there. But, but Yerad shows up and wants to talk to Janeway and shows her a picture of Chakotay. Ask if, do you know her? Do you or do you know him? And Janeway says, no, no, never met him.

Then Yerad says, well, really you don't know him? Because he was found in your living quarters with the dermal regenerator that you removed from the plant. Busted. But Jaffin, being the gentleman that he is, he takes credit. He goes, no, no, I was the one who helped him, me. And Jamie was like, no, no, Jaffin, stop. Stop. And then she steps around and she takes his arm. And I remember Kate used to always do that. She would, she was, she's very touchy, Kate in real life. And when you're standing with her, she would often, like, grab your arm and sort of like, like you're going out to the prom together or something. Do you remember?

That move that Kate makes? Yes. She did that. That's her, her, I'm going to escort you over here. Yes. That move. Yeah. She did it with Jaffin in this scene.

It was a classic Cape Mulgrew. Take the arm like you're going to the prom. She put her real life into the actual, the artificial life. I love it. I love it. But she admits, yes, she knows him and he was from a starship, or said he was from a starship. He and members of his crew were abducted. And yeah, it says, tell me everything you know.

Yeah. And then we go out of that scene. And we go back to Ravik's office, and Seven's not there anymore. No, but Kaden is, and he is pissed. He's just like, what? How could you just walk out? And so he's not happy at all. But is this a scene where Ravik starts to just question Kaden about the whole?

Yes, he's really trying to, he's like something's fishy here. Yeah. You know, Amal Kote claimed that his friends had been abducted and had their memories altered and Caden's like, I don't know what you're talking about. What are you implying? He starts to go get some water. And something happens while they're talking and Ravik's like trying to talk about, you know, putting all this together. Basically, he says, you make, you've been making false diagnoses.

Selectively changing what people remember and then sending them out to the plant to work. You just did a pad to did a thing. You said false diagnoses. So that's like a pad to did that. False diagnoses. That's it. Okay. Yeah.

But he's put it all together. Basically, Ravik has put it all together. Yeah. And that's when he goes to pour. Caden goes to pour a glass of water. And there's a moment here where they're talking and he takes a sip of the water, but he never swallowed. It's like a fake sip. Oh, my God.

It was really. Did you think at that point Caden was going to turn around and shoot Ravik or Faser him? I did. Yeah, because I thought this is the end of Ravik for sure. But Caden's actually very calm. Kaven's sort of like, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, I did kind of do these things, right? I did it, but it makes everybody's lives better. Exactly.

And Ravik's like, but you're making money off this. And Kaden's like, well, doesn't a doctor deserve to be compensated? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's when he fake swallowed. Oh, is that what it was? Okay. Ravik then says, I'm going to report you.

And Kaden's like, to whom? My research is funded by the Ministry of Health. Criminal Investigations. Oh, well, is the director of investigations who ordered Amal Cote to be placed under my case. So basically, Caden is a, what's my term, a connected individual. He has all these. He's part of this, but he does say not everybody knows, just a few trusted people know what we're doing. Right.

And the question is, are you going to be a trusted person? Yeah. Will you be complicit in my duplicity and duplicitous behavior? So Jay Harrington, my buddy, he's got a moral dilemma at the end of the same. He does. He does. We go to the bar again, and Paris is looking at a picture of seven. Yeah.

And security says, hey, have you seen her? Yeah. She's considered very dangerous. And Paris is like, she's never even been in here. Nope. Good liar. Good Paris. You are.

And then they leave. And literally, like, half a second after they leave, Paris turns and goes, it's safe now. I was like, dude, like, give it a few beats. It's not safe. He just dropped three seconds ago, right? He's going to hear you go, it's safe now, like that, especially. Yeah.

So I wish I had taken more of a beep to like beat. Or I didn't. Would you have, or you could have went, it's safe now. Could have whispered it. Something. I don't know. Or you could have went, like that you know like a code thing yeah okay um but so they talk about these files seven is found

and she says yes jacote is telling the truth jaffin's name was not in the files of people's memories that were altered so we know he's not stolen and janeway uh wants to know about her real identity yeah and she says you know his crew has contacted him they were using a tri-axilating frequency on a covariant subspace band. They've got a plan. Seven basically says, you know, maybe Yerd, if you could take me into your custody, we could go back to the hospital and we could help Chakotay and Tuvok. And so we cut from that moment with seven proposing a plan to she's now in the medical facility, unconscious in bed. Yared says, you know, when he took her into custody, had to sedate her supposedly

because she wouldn't come voluntarily so he's got a story and Don Most says well her condition is obviously worsened I'm going to have to treat her which of course her condition isn't worsened she's not even unconscious but

Yarrett says there's a couple other patients that I'd like to talk to and he shows him a list and Don most Caden says nope sorry these people cannot be disturbed but that's when Yerd pulls his gun,

which is different than the gun. Yes, yes. He has a special phaser. Yeah, Caden tries to hit an alarm, but Seven jumps up, grabs his arm, and she's a good faker. She faked being unconscious very well. Yeah, I would have liked to have seen a better blocking of,

it was almost like she was like, like his arm was like, she was like, she's like, you know, no, I would have liked to seen some really cool physicality there. Because it didn't seem, because when she says, I suggest you comply, it's suggesting that she's using some Borg strength there to kind of, you know, withhold him. But it didn't look like that to me. It didn't look like that.

It wasn't a struggle. It was a quick, simple scene. I feel like it's sometimes when, you know, we were making these episodes, there are some scenes where we got 45 minutes to shoot the scene, let's just get in and out. It was probably your time constraint, right? You couldn't get around to it. Yeah. Then other scenes where you know it's going to take three, four, five, six hours to shoot.

you kind of buckle down yeah we go off that moment seven holding caden's arm to like a the back door of the closed plant i guess the plant was closed and and uh jaffin and janeway are sneaking into the communications uh office in in the plant uh we cut to a a flyby out in space with the voyager heading towards forum and i made a note here so there's three humans on this ship right now. And the ship is flying by us in space. Every window had a light on in it. It was like, don't they conserve power? Like, there's only three people on this ship. I mean, I, you know, I go down to the other room and I turn out the lights. I don't leave the lights on in every room in my house. It's so true. Why don't they turn off the lights? No wonder the ship keeps breaking.

Just three people Every light was on on the ship As it flew by We see Janeway Kind of a confused Janeway on the view screen Harry's like Captain And then Janeway responds with Why don't you just call me Catherine

And I'm like, okay That would have funny if Harry's like Okay Katie Yeah by the way Harry's in my chair Somebody else I'm in the captain's chair Am I in?

You're in my chair Really? Okay You're right down front I'm just keeping it warm for you, buddy. That's all. Thanks, buddy. Okay.

So, yes. She's talking to them from the distribution plant. Then Torres pops in. And because Janeway goes, like, he told me you had proof of talking about Chikote of who some of us really are. And Torres pops in and says, we do. Janeway's like, you're the woman that was abducted. Torres does talk about how Chacote was supposed to deactivate the shield grid so we can transport you and everyone else to save. So please, if you can figure out how to shut that down, help us now.

By the way, yeah, so you and Roxanne were standing down front by, you were sitting in my chair, and she was standing next to you. And do you remember when we would shoot scenes on the view screen, they'd put a big tape X on like a stand for an eye line for us to look at? Yeah. This is a moment where I looked at the two of you, and I don't know if you were looking at the same spot. We had the right eyelines. I don't know if they put the taped X on there because it looked like you had

like you were looking a little more to the right and she was looking a little more. Oh no. The looks were a little different. Oh, no. Oh, well. What are you going to do? Well, she's acting in the scene and she's directing herself. It's, you know, something's going to slip through the cracks. It's got an eye line. The eye line one done.

And it's most noticeable when people are down there in the front, honestly like for me because I'm in the front when I would be looking at the wrong place but Janeway and Chacote everybody behind me was looking a little different right couldn't notice it but when you got two people in down at that front pilot station at the same level yeah and they're looking slightly different right yeah it's noticeable yeah it's basically a three level bridge right the level that Tuvac and I are on the level that Chukotay and Janeway are on and then the level that you are on you're yeah you're the third lowest the lower level

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but what kind of bug me is that she's asking for proof. Like, where's the proof that I am who I am? And Torres comes on screen after Janeway says, you know, you have proof and she's like, we do. Jamie says, you're the woman who was abducted. And then Torres goes, well, Chacote was supposed to deactivate the shield grid. She never explains the proof. Like, where's the proof?

I don't get it. It was sort of a roundabout way of getting information to her. Well, she's not quite accepted it yet. But she's got the proof. She just hasn't made the decision to help. Oh, you're saying the proof is the fact that she's contacting us. That's it? Okay.

Yeah, the proof is the fact that Bilan is there and saying, yes. Yeah, I'm not abducted. I'm good. Yeah. Okay, got you. All right. But that moment ends with Harry saying, please shut down the shield. And so that, you know, we can get our friends.

Right. The transmission ends. We don't know what's going to happen. And then Janeway steps out into the. you know, the factory area calls for Jaffin, and there's a supervisor there. Instead, there's some guards. She seems trapped on this catwalk.

We go out, out to a commercial. And end of the act. And also the Voyager was under attack as well at the end of that. And Voyager was under attack, and she's trapped in this catwalk. What's going to happen? We come back from the commercial break. Yeah. The supervisor says, don't move.

And she jumps off of the catwalk. Her stunt person did a great jump. yes and and lands down below yeah jaffins uh sedates the security guy takes his gun starts shooting the other people they hide behind a console jaffin and jane i gotta say for an engineer jaffin's pretty handy with that phaser yeah he was just taking people out aiming perfectly it was like wait a minute are you someone else like maybe undercover somebody i don't know but Yeah, could be. All right.

But Janeway says when they're hiding behind this console, she goes, we need to shut down the main generator. So now we know she's going to help. Well, actually, she doesn't have the right, you know, tools to shut it down. But she says that if she actually makes it think that the core is going to overload that the computer will then shut down the shield grid automatically. That's her plan. Then we go to the medical facility next. This is the 360 shot where basically the camera sees Caden bringing in Yared and 7 into this medical facility. And then as they look off camera to see where their friends are, the camera whips over to, you know, Tuvok.

And then it whips over to someone else and it whips over to someone and comes all the way around. It's like a crazy sort of 360 point of view. very energetic. I don't know. It was a little disorienting that shot to me because then it came back to Yerid and Kaden and Seven.

Then they started going to help people. Seven's looking for Tuvok. And also Seven notices that Ravik, the doctor that she's been talking to, is also on a bio bed, unconscious, under a brainwashing helmet thingy.

So clearly he stood up for what was right and he told Caden that he wasn't going to be complicit and Caden basically put him on, you know, knocked him unconscious or did whatever and put him on the table. Yeah, to shut him up. We go back to the bridge

at this moment and the ship is under attack. We're losing shields. Harry asks the doctor, is there any advice from your tactical database? Doc says nothing relevant. And then the hell he gets an idea. He does.

How many escape pods do we have? Taurus says five. He says, standby to eject them. The doc's like, I don't think abandoning ship is the answer right now. Harry's like, no, neither do I.

And then he has this plan. Yeah. Can you create a dampening field around the briefing room that'll mask our life signs? That's what Kim says. Yeah. And the doctor says,

I believe so. Why? And Kim says, watch and learn, repeating the same line the doctor said earlier. Yes, yes. Did you think,

did it play right well when Harry says how many escape pods do we have left that he comes up with an idea did it play well or do you think it was not played well in that oh no I thought it played great I could tell you you were putting an idea together okay good you had you know doctor didn't have a solution for this one you've got a solution for this one okay so it worked the scene worked yes yeah totally does the coyote says you're going to have to surrender your vessel and yeah and when we cut to the bridge again now the doctors in the captain's chair it appears alone Right. So it looks like the humans have the only way. Yeah, the humans have left again, right?

So and all three of the escape pods have been tractored in by by coyote's fellow, you know, accomplices in their ships, right? So that you're seeing that shot too. The doctor sort of stands up against coyote and we do see the explosions of all the escape pods. When the escape pods explode, they don't really cause the other alien ships to explode, but they do knock them out. shock waves or damage. Yeah. They're offline. Everything. All their, all their systems are offline, clearly. Yep. Right. So. And then Harry leads the crew back in from the briefing room. And the doctors, ooh, he's impressed. Bravo. Ensign. Like, how often does he say that to Harry? Never. So that was kind of nice. Yeah. Then we go back to the power distribution plant. Janeway is trying to reach up to the panel. Without getting shot. Yes. Very easy to overload. To overload.

Entire planet's energy system grid. With two buttons? One button. It was one button. Are you sure? It was like slow, slow, slow, push. And now the whole planet is shut down. Or overload detected.

Yes. Initiating emergency shutdown. Yes. Yeah, we see these planet surface shots. Yep, the whole place. Everything's a zoom, zoom, boom, boom, boom, going down. I loved it. I loved it.

We go to the bridge. Shield grid is failing. Transporters are coming online. says Torres. Yes. We do see the beam out. We see seven being beamed out. Chikote, Tuvac. Now, when Janeway is being beamed out from Jaffin, Jaffin, the actor playing Jaffin, does this thing where he's trying to like caress her face or something at the last second as she's leaving, like, come back to me, which no actor is done

in the history of Voyager. That's a first for us. That's a first. So good on you, bud. So you got that somehow done. And you escape the editing Blore. So they're saved. They're beamed out just in the nick of time. And we have a space flyby with the ECH log supplementals, basically saying, you know, that thanks to his experience with Lieutenant Torres, that he's treated everyone else quickly, he still has just a few command duties left to perform. He's got to meet with the ambassador. Yeah. So we're in the briefing room and Harry and the doctor or the emergency command hologram are in there. Oh, it's, it's Jennifer Anderson's dad.

Yeah, Jennifer Anderson's dad. Yeah, and you're at, and Nelix. That's true in the doctor. But we do find out that evidently, Kaden has done this to several thousand of his patients. And I started thinking, okay, I can understand hiding a few hundred people that he's kind of It's several thousand people without any of their relatives or anyone that they're related to coming in and investigating this. Like, how is that even possible?

It's just like, what? So that to me was a little, that number is a little too high, you know? That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. But he's very grateful that we've busted open this, this criminal ring. And he takes off. And then there's a moment with Harry and the doctor at the end where they both kind of smile at each other.

We're both trying to walk out, right? Yeah, we bump the shoulders. He says you first, and I go, no, you first. And I let the doctor go. So that's a great resolution. Yeah, fabulous resolution. All the drama, all the conflict between the doctor and Harry, it's been squashed at this very end.

And it's a nice moment. I like it. Well, very nice moment. We go into Paris and Torres Quarters. And Tom is watching old. cartoons on his TV set. Yeah. Eating his

popcorn, kind of giggling, laughing. Yeah, I remember this scene. Do you? There was a long shot where I was supposed

to be laughing at the cartoons. Yeah. And I remember I had to fake laugh for so long before she finally came over. And every time we did it, you know, take two,

take three, take five, whatever. I was like, oh God, I hate fake laughing. Fake laughing. I can fake cry

better than I can fake laugh. You should have had Ethan Phillips standing across from you, off camera, doing some funny weird stuff. That would have helped you. I don't know. I was watching it going, oh, yeah, I remember. It's fake laughing. Yeah. But he's watching fake laughing.

And she's watching him from the distance. And she comes over, gives him a kiss. He goes, what's that for? Yeah. And she's grateful for him taking care of her. And then she punches him. Yes. But she says,

for taking care of me, even when you didn't know who I was. That's important. You have to say that. And that punch was awesome. I love that. And she punched me. Yeah. I was like, what was that for?

She says flirting with your customers. Yeah. And he goes, flurdy, McFlurdy. That was a victim of mind control. What can I say? It was cute. Very cute. They're a cute couple.

We go to the ready room. I just made a note here, Jaff and Jane, we were saying goodbye, but she has a lot of flaccount. We're actually not in the ready room. That's incorrect. Or her quarters. We're in her quarters. Yeah. It's Janeway's quarters.

Jaffin's in there. And he sees everything. She's got a lot of flowers in there. Like there's, she's standing by a bonsai tree. There's flowers on a desk. There's flowers on a table. Yeah. I was like, did she get like celebration?

Like, congratulations. You're back on the ship. Flowers? I don't know. There was a lot of flowers for maybe. I couldn't figure out why. Maybe they were from Jaffin saying, please come stay with me.

I remember, do you remember Kate used to at the end of a day, if there were flowers in a scene, she would take them home? Remember them being in her trailer all the time. Oh, no. And at the end of a night, if she was going home, she'd have a like a bouquet of flowers because they'd order flowers for a scene. And then once the scene was over, they'd throw them out. And Kate was, she loved flowers in real life.

And she would always have, you know, the display of flowers from that scene. Because if we shot two days in a row, they'd have to get fresh flowers the next day. I hadn't thought about that until I made the comment about so many flowers in the scene. Yeah. And that's maybe why they put all the flowers in there because the props guys knew. She loves flowers. She'll give her a couple, you know, arrangements to take them. Yeah.

This is probably the most emotional scene for Janeway in terms of, like the emotions you've seen on with Janeway throughout the seven years have been when she's been emotional regarding her crew. This is her emotions regarding her own life, which we never see. And Jaffin's there saying, oh, I can see why you'd read. rather live here because, of course, her quarters are amazing. But she does say, you know, I thought about offering you a job here. We could always use another skilled engineer, but it really wouldn't be appropriate. And he, you know, he catches on for you to have relations with one of your crew. He's like, yeah, she's like, yeah. But, you know, he tells her that he's been promoted, you know, and something about someone acquiring workers illegally, shift supervisors being fired, shift supervisors

who kind of look like Baxter, one of your crew members. So basically, he makes that announcement. She says, congrats, you know, you deserve it. And he hands her that plasma relay saying, well, I thought you might like this back to remind you of our time together. And she's like, no, I don't need that. I don't need any souvenirs. And that's when they embrace.

And that tight close up on her. And she's got a tear. He's crying. She's totally crying. She's like, I'm going to miss you, Mark. I mean, Jaffin, is what she's saying, right? But she's clearly, clearly someone who fell very fast and deep for this individual. And she can't, and she realizes this is not, this has to end, basically.

There's no way that this can continue. Yeah. So it's a very, very sad scene. Very sad scene. We go to the bridge next. You notice she walks on the bridge even slower than normal? She's still dazed from Jaffin, I think. So I'd like how she played the continuity of that whole thing, yeah.

Yeah. Harry says, captain on the bridge, everybody stands. She takes her seat. And Chikote and Janeway talked for a minute. He's like, you're sorry that you came back? She says, not for a second. And I wrote down. No, she says, he says, are you sorry I showed up?

Oh, that you came back, you know. And she goes, not for a second. Yeah. And you didn't believe her on that, huh? I do not. Wow. I think she really was happy without all the responsibility and a simple life and a relationship that felt good. And I guess when our memories are restored to a real life, we also remember the things that have.

Like, Janeway's going to remember Jaffin and all the things that happen. She will. So it's not like you can erase that. Yeah. You actually have the last line of the entire episode because she says, after not for a second, resume course, Mr. Paris. and you say, I, sir. Not yes, ma'am. Not yes, ma'am.

The very rare sir to Janeway, which once in a while happens, but... Yes. Well, didn't she even say in the pilot episode that she prefers ma'am? Ma'am will be fine or... Yeah, I think so. Something. So the fact that I said, sir, here was a thing. Was it code for something maybe?

A code for, like, it's more formal, like, back to formalities. Ah. your womanness is not relevant here. Yeah. The human female woman experience that you had isn't relevant. You're back to captain. You know what would have been funny. Responsibility.

Yes, when she walked in on right after she walks off the turbo lift, if Harry got up and said, Catherine on the bridge, because she did say, just call me Catherine, it would have been quite comical instead of Captain Catherine on the bridge would have been comical all right what's your lesson from is the same lesson pretty much from the first episode or do you do you pivot a little bit to something different pivot a little bit okay I feel like you know we all have fantasies of an alternate life kind like Janeway had this alternate life it's never black and white you know that one is not better or worse or one's not good one's not bad it's just they're different they can be be both have good qualities and bad qualities, both of them.

You know, her life might have been good in some ways, but she wasn't truly herself down on that planet. She was happy, but kind of, you know, naively happy because she didn't know who she truly was. She had lost a lot of things. So it wasn't just all good down there. She'd lost memories of her family of her previous life. Yeah.

So I guess my lesson is, you know, those kind of fantasies of having a different life for all of us can be both good and bad. It's not going to like solve all your problems. It's not going to make you, you know, everything perfect. So that's my love. Or the grass isn't always greener on the other side kind of a thing, right? Because you're looking at keeping up with the Joneses next door and you're thinking,

oh, their life must be perfect. But hey, usually not so much. Nothing's perfect. Nothing's perfect. That's a good one. I like that one. I would probably say my lesson from this app would be closer to, it takes, bravery and courage to stand up against institutional wrongdoing? How's that? I mean,

to be a whistleblower to sort of to get up and say, hey, Kaden has been doing this for thousands of people now. And we're going to stop this ridiculousness and this horrible, you know, it's just not, you know, it's not fair what he did. He took people's lives away from them. And to do that is huge. Like so few people. want to rock the boat these days and so just you know the lesson is it takes a lot of bravery and courage in order to to set things straight i like it i like it good ratings here we go my rating yeah i did not like this as much uh it didn't have the fun it didn't have the fun it didn't have the energy pace a lot of this episode was really slow to me okay and i and it lost me and it's

pace, honestly. And I felt like even though there were some cool shots as a whole, I thought it was pretty meat and potatoes in terms of the way it was shot. So it, you know, there was a few cool shots in it, for sure. I didn't see the shot that I remember Roxanne talking about that panning up and down the phone. I never saw that shot. So I, my memory, maybe she was trying to to put that shot in somewhere.

She may have even shot it, but it's not in the cut. Interesting. I don't know what happened to that. Okay. Okay. But anyway, all that said, this was far less successful for me than the first one. I give this a 7.5. Wow.

So you went from 9.5 to 7.5. I did. I was, what did I give it? I think I gave it like 8.2 or something maybe for last episode. And then I think admirals and captain's average rating was, 7.9 maybe for the last episode. So I'm going to go from 8.2 or 3. I'll go to 8.8. So I'm going to knock it. What? I told you. I said I like this one as good or better than the first one. All right. And because of the feels, because of the feels. Well, you may be right because the captain and

admiral average rating for Workforce Part 2 is 8.2. Oh, it did go higher. Wow. So I went higher last week than the average and I went lower than the average this week yeah I took a big swing on this one you really did I did I did yeah and in terms of pacing I you know I know you felt it was slow but for me it didn't bother me it felt slow it felt sort of plotting at times it didn't have highs and lows in the way that the first episode to me had wow so many like romantic moments and sweet moments okay okay dramatic moments too you know the drama of Tuvok's flashbacks and things was very dynamic, the sweetness and romance of both the Paris Bolana and Janeway Jaffin stories were very successful. And this one, it all felt a little

more story-wise in the middle, just kind of plot driven and plotting. Yeah. Anyway, we can agree to disagree. We can. And as a two-parter, very successful all around to me. Yeah. I think this may be my favorite two-parter. Thank you, everyone, for tuning into this episode of the Delta Flyers. Join us next week when Robbie and I will be recapping and discussing the episode Human Error. Great. Thanks, everybody. For all our Patreon patrons, please stay tuned. The BIN, BOR,

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