The Delta Flyers - Year of Hell Part 1

Episode Date: October 11, 2021

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Year of Hell, Part I. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Year of Hell, Part I:Voyager comes across a Krenim timeship that's wiping whole species from existence to change the existing timeline.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise and Rebecca McNeill, & our Post Producer Jessey MillerAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, & Kate MulgrewAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co- Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Becca Stillo, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Chris Knapp, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, James Zugg, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, Sarah Thompson, Mike Devlin, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Amber Eason, Ashley Stokey, Lucas Shuck, Mary Burch, Nicholaus Russell, Lisa Robinson, Joshua McHenry, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Marcus Vanderzonbrouwer, Nathan Walker, Shambhavi Kadam, John Mann, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Melissa Lau, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Paul Young, & Katherine PokhrelAnd our Producers:Jim Guckin, James Amey, Katherine Hedrick, Eleanor Lamb, Richard Banaski, Eve England, Ann Harding, Laura Swanson, Ann Marie Segal, Charity Ponton, Chloe E, Kathleen Baxter, Craig Sweaton, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Mike Schaible, Kelley Smelser, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Joshua L Phillips, Barbara Beck, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Cody Crockett, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, James Cottrell, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Andrei Dunca, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Amy Tudor, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Kevin Selman, Maria Rosell, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Louise Storer, Justin Weir, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlmann, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Michelle Maroney, Scott J. Mark, Megan Chowning, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Joseph Lanning, Megan Moore, Melissa A. Nathan, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, & David J ManskeThank you for your support!Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are myself, Garrett Wong, and of course my co-host, as always, Mr. Robert Duncan McNeil. Well, hello, sir. How are you? Hello. Yeah. I'm a little, a little tired. I know. You were telling me what, what happened? Yeah. Oh, just friends in town, you know, and I suggested to, I suggested to them, how about I take you to a restaurant that's off strip? You know, so you don't have to eat at your casino hotel. I can take you somewhere else. So I took them to a restaurant called Izikaya Go. Isakia Go is a Japanese tapas and bar. Did we go there? I feel like we went there.

We did not go there. A little strip mall? Yeah, I did take you to a place. What was that place? It was like a Japanese place too. It was Tertoria Nakamura, which was a Japanese and Italian fusion place, which is also amazing, right?

So these are these hidden gems. And the reason why I wanted to go to Isikaya Go is because I have gone to their sister restaurant, which is also in the Spring Mountain kind of, you know, Asian restaurant area, part of Vegas. Right. Right. And I have been binging on this series on Netflix called Midnight Diner. I don't know if you've seen this or not.

It's basically set in Tokyo and it's a, it's a basically a series about a diner that's only open from midnight to 7 a.m. That's it. Wow. And there's only one thing on the menu, but the guy that owns the place, just one guy in there doing all the cooking and everything, he owns it. if you ask him for something, if he has the ingredients, he'll make it for you. Wow.

So that's what the, yeah. So I've been getting into this. Is this the place that's in like a subway station or something? That's not that place. No, you're talking about something else. I know what's what you're talking about. No, this is not the subway station one. And this is scripted.

This is not a documentary. It's scripted. But it's gotten me on this crazy kick where I'm just wanting to try these traditional Japanese dishes and this restaurant has them. Izekiah Go has all this stuff like, for instance, in this, in the series, there's these three sisters that come in, and they always order this Japanese dish called chazukee. Chazuke is sort of a rice dish, but the rice is sitting in a kind of a broth of green tea, a green tea broth. Oh, wow. And on top, you can choose either pickle plum, salmon, or fish eggs.

So you choose the topping. And so they have it in the series and they have it at this restaurant. So we ordered all this stuff and it was amazing. Oh, it's so good. But the other thing I was going to tell you, you know me. I'm not typically a drinker, but in this series, everyone's either drinking in Japanese, yeah, sake or they'll say beer, which is beer. So I've been drinking Japanese beer almost every day now for the last. Oh, my God.

Two weeks. What's wrong with you? Who are you? Because the show, the show. I know. I'm turning into Robbie McNeil. I'm not, I definitely don't like alcohol. But I will say, uh, Japanese beer is pretty darn good.

Um, Sapporo. Yeah, especially with the food. Like if it's paired with the right food. Oh my gosh. Yes. I agree. Yeah. So the next time you're in Vegas, I really want to take, uh, you and Rebecca to this

restaurant. Okay. So amazing. It's so good. We'll do it. Oh, yes. So yummy. All right.

So this week's episode. Yes. Is year of hell. year of hell part one this is a famous episode this is a big episode definitely yeah i'm pretty excited about this did you want to say anything right now about it or just talk about it when we come back well i just i know you know this is a this is a very big episode was this the episode that we took to the museum of television and radio didn't we do like a screen is this the one yes we did do a screening but i thought it was a different episode but if you're you might be right i feel like

it might be this episode. We did a big screening and a panel there. Yeah, with fans at the Museum of Television and Radio in Los Angeles. I do recall that. The entire cast was there. We were all there for that. Yeah. And you think it was this episode. I think it was this episode. I do. Yeah. All right. Cool. That's, yeah, I'm excited. Excited to watch this one. Let's go check this out. All right. We'll be right back, everyone. See you soon. of hell part one. Whoa, boy. Boy, that was a lot.

That's so much going on. There's so much. I was like, normally I'm making notes and I'm remembering like little details and I'm able to kind of pause down. Literally every five seconds, I was pausing, making notes like, oh my God, wait, I got to keep this. Yeah, I got to keep this organized because it's so complicated. What was happening in all the different.

parts. Yeah. Okay. So why don't we start off with our poetry haiku and our poetry limerick. Yes. Let's do. Our sonopsis. Our poetry synopsis. Okay. Here's my haiku for Year of Hill, part one. Thank you. Anorax, obsessed, Voyager falling apart. We abandoned ship. Now I have an alternate. I have an alternate third line. Okay. Here's the alternate. Anorax obsessed Voyager falling apart. Chocote, Tom, gone. Oh, I like that one. I like that one better. Okay, all right. We'll use that one. They'll use that. No, they're both good. They're both really good. Make a note for the compilation, um, poetry. Yeah, the published poetry synopsis of Voyager that we put

together. Okay. Here's my limerick for year of hell part one. The Crenum one. 100% restoration, willing to destroy anything in their desperation. Voyager suffers continued attacks only emergency rations for snacks. Escape pods offer the only salvation. Nice. Good job. Yeah. Rob Becca.

That's your hybrid name. We got escape pods in there. Yeah. Good. That's very impressive. snacks which is very important that was the most impressive part of your your limerick was snacks snacks in there exactly oh my goodness um okay so there you go that there's our poetry but let's get back to this episode it is written by brandon braga and joe monoskey

two of the brainiest brains uh ever to write star trek very smart guys yeah um directed by Alan Craker who we love. Oh, good old Alan. Yeah. Yes. And I do remember shadowing on this a bit. Oh, you do? Yeah. I do remember coming in. Um, I don't think full time or anything like that, but I do remember coming into, um, some of the Kurt Wood Smith scenes on his ship and seeing how they were laying this out and how they were blocking things. I thought it was really elegant. There was sort of this, um, this, this, these levels to the ship kind of behind the captain's chair. And there was this long sort of hall, hall, you know, runway in front of Kurtwood Smith's chair. And so they laid down this

circle track, which I had never seen before because we didn't carry circle track. But they had actually built the set in a way that that circle track could fit into that space. So they built it for the track knowing that they were going to be moving the camera in that way. And so I remember going to- Rob, you explain what a circle track is to people that don't know. So the way the cameras traditionally operate is you have your camera and that's mounted onto a head, which is either wheels, like old-fashioned wheels that the operators turn to move the camera tilt and pan, or it's a fluid head, which is kind of a stick like a lot of

us have seen on our tripods for our cameras at home. You have a little stick and you can tilt it and pan it. So there's the head. And then the head sits on top of a dolly or if it doesn't have to move, it could sit on top of a tripod. It could sit on top of a number of things. But the camera and the head sit on a dolly. And then the dolly, if you're going to move it, you usually put it on track. It looks like railroad track. And the track, most track is straight track. Most all dolly moves, 99% of Dolny moves are on straight track. Correct. They push in, they pull out, they go across.

Circle track is what, like it sounds, it's track that's meant to go in a circle and you can choose it because the, the angle or the circumference of that circle could be larger, if you want a larger circle or smaller, if you want a smaller circle, circle circle track is more specialty items that you don't typically carry. So they had designed this set with that runway for circle track of a certain diameter to fit so that they could wrap around. And that was, I don't know if Alan Craker had a lot to do with that, but I do remember when I was watching this episode,

I remember, oh, yes, I was shadowing. I do remember that track and never seeing. Yeah. We never used it on our track really that often. I think you're right. It's rare. One percent of the time probably in filming in the 90s. It's someone use a circle track.

Yeah. yes yeah very cool though um yeah so i do remember that but alan craker did a phenomenal job i mean i think some of his staging and the photography the way that particularly on kurtwood smith's ship yeah um i thought it was they were just elegantly um directed scenes it's it's just a master class in in staging and shot making it was really really well done yeah and that and that is how we open up this episode is a scene on the Crenum time ship, and we see they are eradicating a Zol colony or settlement. They call it, what they're doing is they call it a temporal incursion.

That's what they call it throughout the, yeah, that's the euphemistic way of saying what they're doing. And after they, after they, you know, they send that, that wave, that weapon where they eradicate all life, then they probe the continuum. And then the Cronham ship captain, played by Kurt Wood Smith, then asks, has our target event been achieved? And we don't really know what the target event is yet in part one. You know, we're not sure what he's trying to do. They're looking for a particular.

Some of this language to me was hard to follow because it is sort of, it's sci-fi language. But what, you know, in a Tom Paris way, I guess I would say, like, what are they trying to do? They're trying to hit a specific time in history and recapture. something capture something there a moment in time yeah where something was happening and we don't know what exactly well we we kind of get clues of it because you know we hear later on in the episode kurt wood smith's care anorex asks his first officer he says well what about the what about the one colony on yeah the one colony yeah exactly and he's like no he goes that that was that didn't happen you know this because he's he talks about a 98% um

restoration. So that point two, that two percent rest rate, uh, non restored part of, uh, the timeline is including that one colony. So obviously that colony has something to do with it. Yeah. For sure. And, and like you said, this opening scene sort of sets up the circumstances as well, because even the very first shot is this sort of high angle on some planet. Yeah. That has all kinds of, it's a big city on some planet. Yeah. And by the way, it looks like a water treatment plant to me. It looked like the way it was designed. I was like that looks like a giant water treatment plant, but it was a city. Yeah. And then this weapon fires from space fires this kind of wave that we don't know what that is, the energy wave. But everything sort of as

the wave washes over, it washes this entire city away and all this left is a river. Gone. Yeah. So it's a it's a great visual in that first scene where you see, oh, this is what these guys do. And we don't know if they just wipe out the physical part of the city, but it looks like everything is gone. And you get this idea that in some way, they've restored it back to what it was before that civilization showed up, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So now we know about those guys. Then we go to our opening credits. When we come back, we are inaugurating the astrometrics lab for the very first time we're seeing this set. And I had forgotten that Harry and seven were the two people that combined Starfleet and Borg ingenuity to create this entirely new technology, Janeway said. Yeah, new mapping technology. And you say it's 10 times more accurate than what we've been using.

So the Borg and the Starfleet combo is pretty powerful. That's what that says to me. Like, that's pretty cool. It is. It's a good combination. I also, I was laughing at the part because at the end of this, the doctor has his little comedic moment, like the only comedic moment in this entire episode.

And he's talking about, you know, I need to share this story. And he talks about how we've come together as a family. And he lists everybody. And at the end, he goes, and even Mr. Paris. And I thought, oh, man. Yeah. What a, what a backhanded, I don't know what that. It just, that's kind of like a verbal slap in the face.

I feel like, I feel like our writers. And I'd be curious because I feel like our writers found their comedy in this sort of snarky, snipey kind of way. Like people do it all the time. They find comedy. You know, Tuvok says things that are just kind of snarky and snipey. And, you know, people talk about Nelix in a snarky and snipey way. Like that's often our writer's version of comedy or lighthearted moments was that sort of thing.

yeah anyway yeah even mr paris even mr it's it's funny but it's just kind of snarky yeah yeah and i don't want to i don't want to um you know i i feel like we we didn't really mention how grave the situation is with this time ship i mean that's that's crazy if you think about the borg being okay they're assimilating everybody but this this race they're not even assimilating people they're like okay we're just going to just make you vanish from existence. Okay. All of your everything that you have ever known about these people are going to be gone, which is even more devastating, right? It is a incredibly powerful tool or weapon. In fact, later on, we'll get to the scene much later on, but when there's a bit of a chase with this ship, we learn that they can only go up to warp six.

That's right. We've got technology to outrun them. Right. But they don't really, typically, they've not needed it because they can just shoot up this weapon. Yeah. And we can't outrun their weapons. So they don't have to fly that fast. They just have to shoot this freaking time change thing. Right. And that's it.

Yeah. But they can't do the, what they opt, you know, their typical MO is they, they, they figure out what's going on and they head to that home world and then take out the home world, right? Yeah. But knowing that we're from the Alpha Quadrant, 65,000 light years away, they cannot go to our home world and take out Earth and then take out. take us out, too, basically. So that is one thing that they don't have.

Yeah. And I wonder, this is going to get answered, I'm sure. It's just occurring to me in this moment, you know. With this time wave that they send out, it sort of erases, it changes time and moves time around. Well, they sent that wave out in the very beginning. We got hit by this wave. Yeah.

And in theory, we should be, we should be. eradicated or we should be back in the alpha quadrant or we should be back in the alpha quadrant or something about because later on no I mean don't mean to give away a spoiler but most of you that listening to this have seen this episode at least once um later on after seven develops this phase you know changes the phase variance on our shields to protect us from the torpedoes the chronotronoton torpedoes and then I guess I would say that at that point we're safe from these weapons but in the very first thing we didn't have that technology so why are we even alive because because that wave wasn't directed at us that was just an after that was just the residual

wave I feel I think if we were at the heart of that wave we would have been screwed but because that was you know light years away from where we're at we we've just experienced the the you know the side like the residual it's a lighter version of of the wave that's what i'm thinking right i mean that wave can't when they hit that wave it's it's targeted towards one planet one settlement one species one civilization not towards the i mean maybe that makes yeah it's just now all of a sudden i'm starting to put some of this logic together i'm sure they argued this in the room and And they've got an answer for it. But there is like this weapon is should be almost, you know, totally indefensible.

Like you should, you know, we do come up with the one defense. Seven comes up with that later on. But at this point, we should have, we should have suffered the consequences of this weapon. And we didn't. And we're kind of in these battles where we're losing decks and parts of our ship. And obviously the ship's getting destroyed and damage. a lot. But yeah, this technology is kind of like, it's a game changer in a way that I don't know how we've even survived one episode of this stuff. Yeah. And now I need to ask you a very important

question. Yes, sir. What do you think of Janeway's hair? Ah, I did make a note. I did make a note right here at the end of, we're called to the bridge. By the way, I did love, I'm going to get to her hair in a second. But Seven's got a line where she talks about the Zol, this species that's here, that we're going to meet one of their guys in a minute. Yeah. But she talks about the Zol and she says, their resistant quotient is quite, quite low. I just never heard the term, well, their resistance quotient is quite low. I just never heard that term.

It's very funny. How borg of her to say that. How borg of her. Yeah. So we leave. And I did make a note right here. I was like, is this Kate's real hair for the first time? I feel like it might be.

I don't. Well, the irony of this is that. that for me is that the hair that she is, you know, her hair style in astrometrics in the beginning before all the crap hits the fan. It's identical to Jean-Villev-Bujold's hair season one. Yes, it is. It is. The one day that she worked, that's it, you know?

And I thought, oh, my gosh, look at that. You know, it took four seasons for Janeway to get her hair to wear Jean-Vieff-Boujold basically insisted upon having it just sort and just no nonsense right and so there it is paris's hair is doing something weird in the scene too i wasn't i don't know what was a little loosey goosey but yeah but uh janeway's hair definitely was the uh stand there's a lot of different hair versions to watch in this episode with her that's true that's true anyway we go to the bridge and we see this krenum commandant um i guess they have uh you know male pattern baldness in the krenum because he was a bald man um and so was uh curtsmith

and you know so maybe that's part of this species is they have genetic male male pattern baldness happens yes yeah it is of note though that we when we're on the bridge we think this is the zall that are firing us right because we're like we're like oh my and then what krenum the kronom imperium who is this guy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um, but also the other important note I wrote down is when we go to the bridge, Janeway, Janeway's line, her line, not Janeway's line, but, but she's spoken to by Ensign Lang, played by Deborah Levin. She's a tactical. This is the same one that got shot by the phaser on the bridge and she's like, yeah, she does that whole like, you know, convulsing kind of falling down when she gets phasedered, right? I think she, that's ensign lang.

Ensign will end up dying in this episode. Really? She's the one that's on the ground later. No. Are you sure about that? There's a woman on the ground. I assumed it was lying because she was right there. Well, we'll get to that.

I'll have to look at that anyway. Okay, so we're on the bridge. We're talking to this Crenum Commandant, and I love, they're firing these little torpedoes. Yeah. We think they're not a threat. I love Kate's line. She says, with all due respect. unless you've got something bigger in your torpedo tubes i am not turning around well

balchicabow wow right what what you've gotten those torpedo tubes mr crannum um yeah by the way um so the guy that's playing the zal officer rick fits is his name yes he has appeared in over 125 television shows. He has, I looked at his credits, our Zol officer, Rick Fitz, yeah, who tells us all about the Krenum, but he has done every, it's insane how much is done as long as our body has a resume. He has so many credits. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, but he's our Zol officer. So the, so the, the male pattern baldness, Crenum, Commandant retreats. And we, we cut to Rick Fitz, explain. He apologizes about the Crenum. He said a generation ago that Zal defeated them and their vessels, some of their vessels still wander the area, but they're not going to be any trouble. And we go back out to the bridge.

And now this commandant is really pissed off. And he's like, you're still here. That's it. We're going to attack. Let's take this time to talk about the actor playing that role of the Crenum, common don yes that actor's name is peter slutsker that's what he's credited as peter slutsker but he changed his name he changed his name to peter marks m a r x and you know what i get it okay

if your last name has the word slut in it it's it's a little difficult you know mr slutsker slutsker exactly i think peter slutsker dated a friend of mine back in the 80s way back in the day. Really? Yes. Interesting. I think Peter was a musical theater guy. Yeah. And he's born in New York City. There he, yeah. Yeah. He also has other Star Trek credits. He has Star Trek Next Generation. Three credits, all as Ferengi. He played Nibor, Rega, and Bertha. These are three Ferengue characters that he played in Star Trek TNG. There's actually a photo of him I found posing next to Gene Roddenberry on set of Next Generation. Oh, really? So, you know, he got to meet Gene, which is something that I didn't get to do.

I didn't either. You didn't either. So, you know, Peter Marks, Peter Slutsker is the lucky dog in that one. So, yeah, just want to give him a props right there. Yeah. Anyway, so while we're talking to this commandant, I think Harry picks up a spatial distortion, is headed right out of us. It's five light years across. That's giant.

That's huge. Five light years across. Yeah. And it came from a vessel, we say, near the Zal homeworld. That's where it's coming from. And this giant temporal field is headed our way. And we hit this space time shock wave, hits the ship. And we've lost engines.

We basically sort of, we disappear. The space shot of our ship sees this wave come across us. And we just disappear out of that space. Yeah. So I guess in a way, what I was bringing up before, I forgot about this. We did disappear out of that timeline. We're in another. Did we disappear?

Is that what happened? I mean, the wave eradicates the Rick Fitz character, right? He and his other Zol, lackey or whatever, they're on the bridge and they, they disintegrate, right? They're gone. The Zal ships also are eradicated. And all of a sudden that Kronom ship, the Kronom ship that has Peter marks in it. Yeah. That gets upgraded. It goes from a slight, you know, a kind of a thinner,

smaller ship to a more imposing ship, right? And so you're saying we disappeared at this point. Well, and I wrote down, I put a note here that we disappear when we lose engines, when the impact happens. Yeah. I made a note. It looks like a space shot that I was referring to outside where as the wave came across the ship, our ship disappeared. Okay. And then we probably cut back in inside to which yes that's my next note we come back inside to the bridge and uh and i think chikote says she's dead to an officer uh one of our starfleet officers lying in on the ground that's who i think is ensign laying yes i think that's ensign laying and by the way she's laying in the same spot where someone died last in last week's episode so i'm going to say that that is a

bad luck spot i don't stand in that spot on the bridge because you're you'll likely be dead. That is the Bermuda Triangle of the Voyager Bridge. You do not want to be anywhere near there, clearly. No, I think that was Ensign lying on the floor. Okay. Although nobody seemed to care that much. No, that Ensign was.

No, they were like, yeah, she's dead. I go, that's the one that died really. I mean, that's the one that was phasered so awkwardly. It's okay if she passed. Yeah, well, I guess. People don't even care. Okay. But I'm going to double check to make sure.

I'm going to watch it again to see if that really is her. Voyage is a complete mess on the Crenum time ship. 98% restoration is not good enough because this is when Kurt Winsman, the character of Anorax, then asks his first officer, what about that colony? What about the Cornyum Colony? Is that, has that survived in this timeline? They're like, no, it's not even, it's not there. So by the way, the colony's name was, he says, was the colony at Keanu Prime restored as well? And Keanu Reeves? What? That's what I said. You wrote that down. Oh, it's Keanu Prime. They made a whole colony out of Keanu. Oh, that's so cool. I love it.

I love it. Yeah, he was clearly haunted by whatever happened at this colony. Yeah. And something is personal for him. You can tell in there. Right. There's a shot in the Voyager corridor where the doctor is escorting all these, you know, patients, basically, all these injured and non-injured crew members to safety.

And Janeway. is deploying mines, torpedoes like mines. She says, use our turp- How many torpedoes do we have left? Four. Four torpedoes? That was it. So she says, yes, let's use them like mines. Mines, yeah. So we kind of dump them out.

Yeah. Just, just, you know, a bunch of them out like torpedoes. Yeah. And it does destroy the ship or, you know, there's a structural collapse. And I love when. Your reaction? My reaction. I'm like, got them.

And I clap my hand. And you hit, actually, you hit the console. I hit your console and you're like, got him. And you yell very loudly. I know. I was like, wow, that's a lot of emotion. I was excited. That was really good.

I've never seen. I've never, I just don't recall you having that much emotion ever in seven years, like on the bridge. It was good. So that was super emotional. So that was okay. I'm okay with that one. I was excited. Kate does the ship takes a hit.

Kate goes down to the floor. And I just love what her hair did. It was like all the hair. All the hair spray just held it together. Yeah, it was like this flip forward and she comes up and it's sort of sticking up. Yeah, sticking up like an 80s sort of amazing hair. Yes. Yeah.

Interesting hair episode. She says to Chikote though, she says, you take the bridge or what's left of it. Yeah. And she tosses this piece of plastic. And I was like, where do all these random pieces of plastic? Like what part of our ship are those things? And I did make a note later on. on as it gets worse and worse, like, if you recall, they would put all this debris out on the

floor that was just sort of these random, heated up pieces of plastic that was sort of bent, and then a lot of cork, like black spray-painted cork. Yeah. So it would sort of crumble. It was just cork. And I'm like, I was watching this episode thinking, what part of the ship is made of cork? Like, it just, it looks fine. It looks fine.

It's the USS bulletin board. You know that. And again, as the ship gets more and more, you start to see on the bulkheads and on the walls behind us that they had put like some paper machet that they sort of bunched up. You made it warped, right? Yeah. And I was like, but you could see the squares. Like you could see the edges.

And I was just like, what part of the ship gets damage like that? Right. It just was. Yeah, I think they wanted a lot of mess and they, you know, and that was the most, I guess, cost-effective way to tell that story was a lot of cork, a lot of plastic-y stuff and a lot of paper machet on the walls. Oh, yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So it jumps back and forth between the bridge and the corridor with the doctor.

And then finally, the doctor has to make this horrible decision, which is that area, the ship is about to just implode. right so he has to shut the hatch on some of the couple of the the crew that are trying to run towards him and um they're they're gone that's basically the end of that crew because we find out from harry on the bridge that sections 10 to 53 on deck five are gone it's completely gone no more um so now we see this is this is a serious situation for the crew you know that we're dealing with something that we've never dealt with before and this is hardcore um janeway's ready room chokote and jane we are together chokote suggests a abandoning, abandoning ship, splitting into smaller groups. And Janeway is like, no, we have to stay together. This is the only way we're going to survive. We need to stay together. We're stronger together. We use each other's strengths and talents.

We need everybody's talents here. And the tag on that scene was just awesome, where Chiquete finds the one. This is still intact. Yeah. My lucky tea cup. She goes, my lucky teacup. And then bam, there's another shot. She puts it down on her desk.

And as they walk out, the death starts shaking. and the lucky teacup hits the floor and cracks. Look at that. What a metaphor for her bad luck. Yes. There it is. There it is. We come back and it says day 47 at this point for those keeping score at home.

Yeah. It says day 47 and Harry and Bellano, we got a shot of, I had to go back and look at it. I'm like, what is this I'm looking at? I hear their voices, but I didn't know. We were inside the shaft of the of the turbo lift, I guess. So we were looking at. that is okay I didn't that shut off there was some there was a hatch closed there too right so yeah I guess that was part of the it was like an elevator shaft that we yeah so we're stuck we're

you guys were stuck in there yeah and we're playing movie trivia or twigs I say playing quiz show is what I said right yeah and I totally forgot about this scene in toy solid I said oh I remember this and then I'm as I'm watching it I love that they didn't make me reshoot the they let me kind of play with the scene a little bit because when she doesn't guess she guesses the wrong actor and I say Kerry Grant and you did you notice that I did carry Grant's name I said it in Carrie Grant's voice right yes Carrie Grant you know so I did that and they let me keep that which I was really excited yeah that was fun I like the scene yeah I like could you possibly you talk about uh athletes

famous athletes and you guess the right athlete. I sure did. Can you repeat his name right now? I cannot. I was like, what the heck? It was Klingon. You like spit it out.

I spit it out like it was. It was like my cousin's name. I knew it. Yeah. It was good. But yeah. And so she's injured, but I couldn't tell what was injured.

She was sort of holding her legs. I'm like, did she hurt her knee? Did she skin her knee? It seemed like she, we find out later that she's got a, you know, a ruptured spine or something. Vertebrae or something like that.

Yeah, it was internal. I don't think it was anything to do with her leg, right? Yeah. Because I'm kind of, as I'm consoling her, I'm kind of touching on her leg just to make her feel better, right? Yeah. Then I felt like, oh, my gosh, Tom would be mad, but I'm this touchy with his woman.

No, no, she's injured. Okay. Yeah, thanks. You've got to console people in the world. Seven, seven does open the door. Seven and a crow bar. Seven and a crow bar. come to the rescue.

Yes. She opens the door and she says the entire turbo lift system is down. Yeah. And as you start moving down the hall, she says, by the way, the ship was the Phoenix. And she also says the Borg were present. Yeah. It's a complicated story. I'm like, I'll tell you later, but the Borg were there.

And I thought, oh, man, is this another? The Borg were there when, is that from Cochran? Yeah. flew the phoenix when we had first contact with the Vulcans yeah the board were somehow watching or observing this yeah this this just sounds like something they didn't even know what they were saying but they were either that or i thought maybe they were setting it up for some type of movie thing you know in the future down the road like this is okay we can introduce this idea and this will become some type of you know future film idea i don't know yeah she goes complicated

story and so they we don't get we don't hear the answer No, we don't. And then we cut up, back up under the bridge, and Janeway and Chacote and Paris are standing there. They're talking about reconfiguring some of the bulkheads. And Chacote says, well, this, you know, this was all Paris's idea. Yes. And Janeway basically calls me a genius. She said, ingenious.

And it was your idea. The reverse whole idea. The transverse bulkheads idea from Paris. And then Paris is like, I got that idea from the Titanic. And then Janeway was like, Like, as far as I know, didn't that thing sink? Yeah. He's like, well, I've done the calculations.

I made a few improvements. It's better now. Trust me. And then the doctor calls and says, I need you in the mess hall immediately. Yeah. And so Tom Harris leaves that scene with, well, I guess I'm a popular guy today. Yeah. So I head to the mess hall.

You go to. We now go to seven is in a Jeffries tube and she's climbing down. And she discovers an undettonated chronoson torpedo that is lodged in our bulkhead. yeah and starboard jeffrey's tube book yeah oh i love how she goes arrive quickly she tells too buck to arrive quickly yeah she tells that's right uh we go to the mess hall and paris is now a triage area the mess hall is where everyone's getting fixed up right yeah and paris is helping balana and i did like this scene with paris and balana yeah and then the doctor comes by he's like you need to get over here i need you yeah um yeah and paris does not

want to leave her. And then the doc lectures Paris on staying detached. Like, you know, she's not dying. Other people need you. And he shares the story of when he had to seal the hatch on the two crewmen. Yeah. So it's an interesting. But he doesn't share that until you say, physician heal thyself. Physician heal thyself. You say that under your breath, right? And he's like, what? So, yeah. Yeah, I was a little judic. I was a little judgy with that. You were. And since Strickler and Crumman, Emmanuel, if we just got to give them some props, some credit, since now dead. So we want to be able to say RIP, Ensign Strickler and Khruman Immanuel.

Yeah. Yeah. So we have a nice little scene with the doctor. And then we go to the back to the tube and Tuvok's showing up. And he's like, we've got to get out of here. And she goes, no, I just need, I need sevens like, I got to, I got to figure out this temporal variance. And he said, I'm ordering you, ordering you to get out of here. And finally, she starts to, to exit when she's gotten this 1.4.7.

microsecond variance, but this thing does detonate and it's bad news for Tuvok, for sure. Well, did you notice he shielded, he shields seven of nine. Did you notice that? When the explosion happens, he turns his body to shield her to keep her from getting to getting hit by the, yeah, so he's a stand-up guy to do that, yeah. He's a stand-up guy, but she should have listened to him. Yeah, this is where I made the note. We come back to day 65 in the ship.

It looks really bad and they're eating emergency rations now, they say. Yeah. Replicators are knocked out, right? Yeah. And there's cork and melted plastic everywhere. And I remember when they were redoing all of these bulkheads with that paper mache stuff, it was a big deal because they had to restore it. In fact, I'm trying to remember when this episode was over.

Like, they needed some time to restore our ship. I guess we'll get there as we get down these episodes. but putting all doing all this destruction and then having to undo it yeah took time you know and usually we were shooting on our ship every day seven you know five days a week oh yeah and so you didn't have time to hand it over to the construction department for a few days for them to do these kind of things no so it was it was tricky tricky scheduling very logistics yeah so after that captain's log where she talks about the emergency rations now we're back on the bridge and chicote is giving Janeway a gift of an old pocket watch that he's replicated.

Yes. Captain Craves. Captain Craves was a captain of a ship that was hit by a typhoon in the Pacific. And this is a replica of the watch. They did survive. Yeah. So some symbolism there. Yeah. And this is for her birthday, which is May 20th because she says, oh, it's May 20th. Yes. I forgot. Nobody remembers that. Now that we see that. And now if you're, you know, I'm into astrology, you know what, you know what sign that is, right? No, what is it? I know this because my sister's birthday is May 18th, Taurus, which makes perfect, perfect sense now. Oh, really?

Yeah, because Taurus is are notoriously the most stubborn. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, and his Janeway is so stubborn. It's so perfect. It's, you know, it's Janeway or the highway, right? So I thought, I'm sure it was inadvertent, but the fact that it perfectly landed on a a sign that makes sense for Janeway astrological sign was was really kind of um it made me smile I thought I was like oh okay but Janeway doesn't accept it she says look you know we can't even wants it recycled recycled recycle this thing I'm sorry you know so and by the way we haven't talked

about Chucote's beard in this scene he's got sort of a bee I was like does he have a smudge on his face or is that a beard no it's a beard I talk about it in my reaction videos it must have been like the little stipple paint or something that they put on it just reminded me of like a like a little kid trying to do a be you know a gear to match their dad it's what it looked like it was a little it was a little sketchy yeah i agree i agree uh we go into two vux quarters and we see him with a straight razor and he's shave looks like a straight razor i don't know that that that thing looked like a ceremonial dagger of some sort of it looked it was kind of curved yeah like almost like a sickle like a, you know, like, oh, yeah, like a old-fashioned sickle.

But it was a razor, and he cuts himself. And this is the moment where we reveal, oh, Tuvok's blind. This is the moment. He has a scar over his eye. And I wrote down a Vulcan circumcision tool is what he used to shave himself. I mean, what is that? It was really bizarre. Yes, he's blind now.

He has no, he has no sight whatsoever. And seven comes in. Seven comes in. Yeah. And she, she escorts him out. And you can see that he sort of reaches, yeah, this is a, this was a sad moment. Yeah, very sad. And she has, she came in there because she has an idea about modifying the deflectors to help out the cause.

And now we jump to the corridor where seven is escorting Tuvac down the hallway. And now we see Sue Henley. And Sue Henley says seven. So another Sue Henley chance at having a line. Sue Henley, we stand it, Kate stand in. Kate Mogher's stand in, Sue Henley got a line here. didn't know that do we know is this the first time we hear her name as well yeah i don't recall yeah what is seven seven calls or something i can't remember her name is ensign brooks yeah she

talks about she's my bunk mate or something my cabin mate now and i thought it was funny because she said something like you know when i was uh on on on the board in the collective i live with hundreds of drones yeah but living with one human is more difficult yeah definitely Now we see Neelix. He shows up in a gold Starfleet uniform. And he has two Vok. And he looks good in the Starfleet uniform. By the way, when I first saw him in the Starfleet uniform, I was like, I was thinking,

I said to Rebecca, I'm like, wait, haven't we seen him in a Starfleet uniform before? It was in the episode where Kess was going, jumping time. Remember when Kess was jumping around? Yes, yes, yes. And we jumped to a moment where they were, something was going on with time. Yeah. And he was in that gold. Uniform. That's right. And that was this episode, I bet they were setting up. Oh, I see what you're

saying. You know what I mean? Yeah, I hear you. They jumped to this episode with his ghost off uniform. So he asked Tuvok what to program for the audio signal. So a nice little comedic moment here when he's like, should it be intruder alert or should it be intruders among us? Danger. Danger. To me, you know, this was a nice little moment of relief, a little bit of comedic relief. And And there's really only two moments of comedic relief in here. The doctor's little speech in the beginning in astrometrics and here with Neelix. And that's it. It's about it for comedy.

Yeah, he, I was thinking about Lost in Space, the robot from Lost in Space. Danger Will Robinson. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I felt like there was a little bit of an homage to that. Yeah. Yeah. So now they head to battle stations because Chikotay, Krenum are approaching. And the bridge looks really bad at this.

point. Beams have fallen down. Tuvok is blindly taking his station. The Crenum are firing. Temporal shields are working. Yeah. Harry says it. Although, did you notice he has, he's able to switch his console to a tactile display or something so he can like read braille or something on it.

I thought the same thing. I mean, with everything all malfunctioning like that, he's able to do that? I thought that's pretty impressive. Yes. Yeah, he's got a braille. Yeah. Yes. And he reads Braille. He's learned that very quickly. He's learned it very quickly. So Tuvok tells Seven to go to the deflector control and bring the new shields online and we'll just test it while we're going to battle. This will be our test, right?

We're on the bridge and Janeway is making sure, you know, requesting that Seven get this thing online. She finally brings them online. And sure enough, the current him fire upon us and the temporal shields are holding. They actually stop. They work. Yeah, they work. And then Harry says there's a giant temporal wave approaching again. Displace distortion wave coming in. Stortion wave coming in.

When the shields work and that wave does hit, the Crenum ship is changed to a much older, kind of smaller model. Yeah. You know, again, the ship changes as the wave passes over it. Makes no sense. Chikote says that the whole region has actually changed. Yeah. All the Cronham settlements that are.

there are gone. There's only a few ships that are flying in the area, whereas this used to be heavily populated Krenumir. It was the Krenum Imperium. And now there's a few scattered colonies and a few ships. That's it. So it's very confusing. And we got cut over to the Krenum Weaponship and Anorax is furious. He's like, he's mad. Because they went to, yeah, they went to, they went to eradicate the Garonor homeworld. And so that's where that displacement wave, spatial distortion wave came from when they fired the weapon on the Garonor homeworld, which eradicated them. But then because we had our temporal shields on, that tweaked all their calculations.

And that's why the current warship following us turns into this nothing ship, right? Well, they literally say scans reveal an inert element that shouldn't be there. I guess we're the inert element. Well, no, he says that we are typically, we've already scanned that ship. It is, it was considered an inert element. So meaning it doesn't really affect it. But because they had our sheet, because we threw these shields on, yeah, that changed everything.

I see. Right. So. Well, he's pissed off. He's not. He's like, let's get over there. Yeah. They had to intercept us.

We cut to, now says day 70 on the screen. We're in Astromatrix and Jane Wayne 7 have a great scene together. where they're really puzzling through things. And Janeway brings up this idea of a causality paradox. Yes. Yes. Where is if the idea that if you eliminate one species

that all of history is altered, that because we are so interwoven as, you know, I mean, if you think about our planet, you know, if you eliminate one animal species, that it changes the whole balance

of nature. And the same would apply the space, you know. Yeah. And it's so funny that when you watch this episode, if you just think about the whole Star Trek concept of the Prime Directive, where we don't interfere with other people's business. And whereas this Crenum time ship is the exact polar opposite. We do interfere with everybody's business. Anytime we feel free, you know, we're going to do it, right? So they're anti-Starfleet, the exact opposite. So the Cretum are anti-matter and Starfleet are matter, basically, right? The two cannot exist together. The Crenum Timeship appears and they abduct two crew members to test them.

And of course, it's Chocote and Paris. They just- Paris and Chacote. They're beamed out, yep. He says he has transferred us for further analysis. Yes. So you guys are going to get probed by the aliens. That's what's about to happen.

Okay. And then, you know, they fire the weapon upon us, but we figure out that they don't travel any faster than warp six, like we said before. we escape at work seven the ship is falling apart and then we we come up on that final scene where we're in the mess hall triage area and janeway gives her speech to the crew about evacuating the ship escape pods are equipped with subspace beacon so we will be able to find everyone the senior staff will stay on the ship and try to figure everything else out we're trying we're going to try to save chakotay in paris and you know good luck good luck and we finish on the

outside out in space we see the outside of the ship these hatches opening and all these cool little pods shooting out of the side popping out of the side of Voyager that's the last image and it says to be continued so part two we'll see what happens but i love that last shot of uh of all the pods coming out i thought it was very cool what is your lesson for this episode my theme my lesson is that you can never completely erase the past. I think I sort of struggled with it, but I was like, you know, they had that 98% success rate and, you know, the, the henchman guy is going, you know, it's just never going to, like, this is as good as it's going to get. Yeah. No, no, we have to keep trying. Yeah, my theme is you can't

ever completely erase the past or, or recapture the past. Like, you can't, you can't erase it. you can't recreate it that you just can't you can't completely you may be able to to recreate parts of the of the past and some parts of the experiences that you've had but you're never you know you just can't control time even in sci-fi people like like these krenum people with all their technology are not cannot completely control time yeah that there's some things that are still mysterious and untouching I think for me, I think for me I really kind of focused in on what the doctor had to deal with in shutting that hatch, you know, and that underlying lesson is sort of that lesson that you've heard a lot in Star Trek, which is the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, right? Because if he kept that door open for those few, for the two, really, that would have jeopardized the entire crew, really, right? So he had to make that decision and that's sometimes not the popular decision. But it's the decision that has to be made.

Well, even seven, not listening to Tuvok and staying to try to figure out the 1.47 microns or whatever. She was thinking of the needs of the many. If I can do this, I can. She was. And Tuvok did suffer the consequences of that, of her delay. But because she delayed, she was able to save the ship from what would have been destruction at that. Correct. Correct.

So. Okay. Interesting. What's your rating? on this. I'm going to give it a, I'm going to give it a seven. I'm going to give it a seven. Interesting. We're very close. I have six and a half out of 10.5. Oh, I almost at 6.5, but I was like, you know what? I'll round up. So I was going to say six. My first instinct was a six, because I got to be honest, I didn't love this episode. It's okay. Yeah. I'm hoping that in

part two, it will pay off. It was okay. I felt like it was just very action-packed in a way that I wasn't invested in this theme of time and of, or even the theme that you had with the doctor's theme of the needs and the many. Like, I just didn't feel like those themes were landed in the dialogue or the story in a way that felt really, there were moments. That was the moment with Paris and Bolano when they were, you know,

know she was suffering in the mess hall and he was trying to be an empathetic and tender with her and it was moments with the doctor but i don't know it just felt like these moments that didn't quite get super deep for me so six and a half six and a half six and six and a half well let's hope part two is better for you i'm excited to see part two it was a lot of fun to watch and like i said i think that would, you know, Alan Craker directed a master class in terms of some of the staging and things he did. So yeah, there's a lot of things about it. I love the, the big idea of, of trying to continue to reset time until you get back to this perfect moment in time that you're looking for. Yeah. Those ideas, there's a lot of good ideas in here, but I just felt like in the

end, I was left with a six and a half. Yeah. Did you go six and a half also because of paper machet and and cork board a little bit i felt like yeah a little bit like cork cork on the floor and paper machet and i don't know all right okay all right all right everyone all right well that was fun we'll see you next week yeah see you next week for part two i am i'm actually very excited to see what happens after this escape pod moment i know we have no clue what's going on with chicote no idea no idea no clue okay thanks everyone for tuning in join us next week when roby and i review the Year of Hell, part two. And for our Patreon patrons, please stay tuned for your bonus material. And we will see all of you next week.