The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett - Moment 45 - Why 80% Of Relationships Don't Work: Mo Gawdat

Episode Date: February 17, 2022

In these ‘Moment’ episodes of my podcast, I’ll be selecting my favourite moments from previous episodes of The Diary Of A CEO. In this episode, we go back to a moment from one of my favourite episodes with Mo Gawdat. We discuss something that I like to bring up with a lot of my guests; how to maintain love and keep relationships healthy. The way Mo speaks about his previous partner is phenomenal and should be a lesson to us all mentioning that he still admires her spirituality, love and wisdom. Mo explains that reaching this level of maturity in meaningful relationships requires work, trust and a total understanding of each other. Finding love and keeping love are not the same thing. In this moment listen to become a better person in your relationships. Episode 101 - https://g2ul0.app.link/9MCCcFlLnmb  Mo: https://twitter.com/MGawdat? https://www.instagram.com/mo_gawdat/?... Watch the episodes on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDiaryOfACEO/videos

Quick one, just wanted to say a big thank you to three people very quickly. First people I want to say thank you to is all of you that listen to the show. Never in my wildest dreams is all I can say. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd start a podcast in my kitchen and that it would expand all over the world as it has done. And we've now opened our first studio in America, thanks to my very helpful team led by Jack on the production side of things. So thank you to Jack and the team for building out the new American studio.

And thirdly to Amazon Music who, when they heard that we were expanding to the United States, and I'd be recording a lot more over in the States, they put a massive billboard in Times Square for the show. So thank you so much, Amazon Music. Thank you to our team. And thank you to all of you that listened to this show. Let's continue. Romantic love. Let's take a pivot there then. Oh, man. Before we started recording, we talked a little bit about the modern world of dating and how difficult it is because of the way the world's changed and, you know, the battles with romantic love. You know, I know you've been in, you were in a relationship for a long time.

Yeah. 28 years. Yes. And then back on the dating market. Yes. Not doing great. Not doing great. You were with someone for 20 28 years yes i'm like 28 years old i know that's a staggering you know oh she's an amazing woman and we're still best friends she's still she's still in my eyes the best woman that ever existed and i think in my in her eyes i'm still i'm the best man that ever existed. And I think it's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful connection. Uh, and it's doable. And it's actually, if anyone needs to experience that once in their life.

Do you know what question I'm going to ask you? No. Um, if, if you both think you're the best people that ever, ever existed, huh? Love and relationships are two different things. Love is feeling, uh, relationships are, uh, compatibility and fit and work. Okay. And progress and projects and, uh, you know, and partnerships and lots of, and lots of things, relationships. So in the book I'm working on, uh, I actually have a section about finding love and a section about keeping love, right? Because they're not the same thing. And I, you know, Nibel and I, you know, she's the most amazing woman ever. And, you know, at least from what she gave me in life, I will eternally be grateful. Everything that I am, any comment that I said today

was discussed one day with Nibel, right? Her spirituality, her wisdom, her love made me who I am, okay? And you can't kill that because you no longer want to sleep together. Do you understand this? You can't be that stupid to take all of those beautiful relationships and just say, okay, that's it. We're separated.

We don't want to talk. Right. The, the, the thing is, uh, I believe that love, uh, is short-lived. Okay. I believe that Nibel and I had to fall in love six times, uh, uh, over, over the 28 years, because we both changed every single time. So she's So she was my college sweetheart. We had that amazing, you know, puppy love and wonderful romantic relationship and so on. And then we get married and then she becomes a different person and I become a different person. And you suddenly go like, where's my sweetheart? Okay. And you have a choice then either to walk out and say, I'm going to go look for my sweetheart. Or in our case, we go like, oh my God, she's gone that sweetheart,

but my God, this one is so cute. I love that one, right? And we fell in love again and again and again, six times until our paths went literally opposite ways after Ali, where my path went into, okay, I'm gonna write a book and tour the world and do more of what I do. And her path went into, okay, I'm going to write a book and tour the world and do more of what I do. And her path went into, okay, it's time for me to start focusing on my own life. I want to,

you know, focus on my own business, focus on my own stability. I don't want to travel the world like a maniac. And it became difficult. It became difficult to go back every two weeks when we haven't met and feel guilty that I have not been there for her and she hasn't been there for me. And so one day we sat down, we spoke, we hugged, literally hugged and then, you know, said, okay, maybe it's time to try another experience. And, and then we went back to the same home and spend another week together. And then I left and it's beautiful. It's beautiful as it is. I think we still carry each other's credit cards and we still manage our investments together

and there is total trust and total understanding and we still parent Aya, our daughter together. And it's wonderful. It's just that romance is one part of the different melody of loves that you can feel for someone.