The Digression Sessions - Ep. 124 - Liz Miele!

Episode Date: July 21, 2014

We Use Keys Follow Us On Twitter! @LizMiele – Liz Miele @BetterRobotJosh – Josh Kuderna @MichaelMoran10 – Mike Moran @DigSeshPod – For Podcast Updates! Hola DigHeads! On this week’s episode, Josh and Mike sit down to chat with the hilarious comedian and cat lover, Liz Miele! Liz started doing stand-up at the over the hill age of 16. At 18 she was profiled in the New Yorker. At 22 she appeared on Comedy Central’s Live at Gotham. Liz continues to perform stand-up all over the country at club and colleges. Liz was nice enough to talk to us about how accepting insecurities can turn them into armor, crack crocks in lieu of diamonds, going off birth control, having a crazy family, acne, getting your tubes tied, and her animated webseries Damaged! Thanks for all the love Dig Heads! If you can swing it, please drop our asses a few bones via the “Donate” button on the website. Also please subscribe to Digression Sessions on Stitcher and iTunes. And check out ThunderGrunt.com Thanks everyone! We love you!

Welcome to the Digression Sessions Podcast. Hey everybody, I'm Josh Koderna. And I'm Mike Moran. And you're listening to the Digression Sessions Podcast, a Baltimore-based comedy talk show hosted by two young, handsome stand-up comedians slash improvisers join us every week as we journey through the world of comedy and the bizarreness of existence as we interview local and non-local comedians writers musicians and anyone else we find creative and interesting yes

who's the guest this week liz mealy is the guest on this week's program uh new york-based comedian who you can find on twitter she is at liz mealy last name spelled exactly how it is on this episode that you're looking at i always like that on podcasts when they're like this is how you spell it uh you can't reveal who the guest is and all that stuff it's like we already know who it is right yeah um it's like a surprise guest yeah like all like, all right, we can't tell you. But Liz is super, super funny. Very interesting story. I mean, she started stand-up when she was 16.

I know, crazy. In New York, which is insane. Could you imagine your stand-up set when you were 16 if you had one? It would be a lot about boobs, probably, and how I want to touch them, feel them, lick them. Just keep going. Slowly caress them. this intro is 35 minutes long bathe them uh no it's pretty incredible i mean she's been doing stand-up for 12 years killing it she's out on the road and uh we met her or i i knew about liz through uh past guest grant

lindahl because he was animating her web series called Damaged, which you can check out at damagedwebseries.com. I did a voice for that of a cat, and I was summarily replaced by somebody actually famous. Welcome to the cruel world of voiceover work for web cartoons. VO work ain't easy,

huh? No, but it was cool enough to actually do a voice on that. And I was glad to have her have me on. Wait, what? What? No, that was weird. That was very weird to have me on the show, on her show. And then we said whenever she comes to town, she would be a guest and she was in town for Artscape, which just happened this past week. And it was a really good interview. It was. I had a great time. She was an open book, and it was very cool to talk about her process and being 12

years into it and how stand-up changes throughout that. And then not only figuring out your voice, but how your brain works. Yeah, I feel like we really peeled back some layers in this one. Yeah, it was a really good episode. So thank you to Liz for being on the show. Check out LizMealy.com as well for all her upcoming dates.

She tours all around the country. And look for her Catterday pictures. She's a big proponent of Catterday. So thank you to Liz. And speaking of shows, Michael. Yeah. We have shows coming up, don't we, Michael? Oh, crap, we do.

Oh, boy. Oh, goodness. Oh, man. Can you cover these ones? Uh-huh. Sure, sure. This week is pretty jam-packed for me Wednesday, Chuckle Storm at the Auto Bar

That's right, Chuckle Storm Baltimore's premier comedy talk show is happening Wednesday, 8 o'clock at Auto Bar We're going to have a bunch of great guests We got the Wham City Fellas Comedy Dreams from Philadelphia is coming down All types of sketch and improv And this is a four-year anniversary Wow So that's going to be a four-year anniversary wow so that's gonna be a

fun one come out to that uh thursday i'll be at the alamo cinema and draft house in winchester virginia and uh that's gonna be a lot of fun that's a big room that's at nine o'clock me mike finazzo and pete buckbauer through friday i don't know if i have anything saturday the 26th i'll be at the d DC Arts Center doing some improv for Chinese Menu, which is a whole mix of improvisers from the area who don't normally improvise together. Like a Chinese menu, they come

together. And it's a super fun show. So go to digressionsessions.com slash calendar for all the ticket prices and the venues and addresses and all that stuff. And now, Michael, I know you have a big show coming up on Sunday. Oh, crap, I do.

Why didn't you tell me earlier? I'm pretty sure you told me. It's the 27th. 27th, I will be headlining at High Tops in Timonium. So check that out. That's a free show, right? Free show. So be there. Support Michael. And follow us on Twitter, everybody.

I'm at BetterRobotJosh. And I am at Michael Morantin. Hi. Thanks, everybody. Hi. I don't know. Start that at the very end. Hi, I'm Mike Morantin.

And I'm Josh Kedernick. And we want to thank you for listening. And also, one last shout-out to our network. This is our second episode on our new podcast network, Thunder Grunt. Things have not been the same since we joined this network. Things are going good. We're actually getting some good numbers. A lot of cross promotion.

Synergy, Michael. Synergy. Things are going. You know, I just learned what synergy meant like a week ago. You just have to repeat it and shake your head. Synergy. Yeah. Yeah.

Synergy. Branding. That's how I get through meetings. I got it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. If I could piggyback, Syback uh synergy i'd like to speak about it so check out thundergrunt.com and uh there's a bunch of great podcast baltimore based podcasts there and uh we're a nice little network a family of shows and uh we really love it and we also really love you how about that transition we

love the listener right michael yeah we do okay yeah well you know define love yeah and uh maybe not all the listeners we don't know all of them yeah i mean i'm sure there's some sociopaths out there that i don't care for but and we love them the most because we don't want them to hurt us that's what i was saying yeah so again thank you to everybody for listening this uh rambling intro is over and uh let's get to the episode, shall we? Thanks, guys. We love you. Yeah.

Is that how we start every show? Yeah. Mic tapping. Well, it's nice that your name is Liz because I call every guest Liz. Oh, good. Liz, can you tap that mic? This is the first time this has worked Yeah, the first time we've had a response

That's why there's so much dead silence Do you feel good about this mic? I do I like all these drumsticks Thanks All of them? We're sponsored by KFC How many do I get to take home as a souvenir?

You know, just one or two. You know, don't push your luck or anything. Do not push your luck. We don't even know if you're a good guest yet. Those are actually Def Leppard signature drumsticks. So you only can use one of them. Yeah, so please. We'll break one.

Please. Where are we at here? Where are we? I like the idea that you don't know how any of this works. Yeah, just like, oh, shit, I didn't think you were going to show up. Does anyone know how to run this stuff? Yeah, there we go.

Hey, it's all good, huh? You're spending all that time just finding that. There it goes. I feel good. Alright. Liz, I believe you were telling us a boring story before the mics heated up. Oh, yeah, heated up I got nothing well that's been the show

thanks for coming by thank you no Liz Mealy hi hello I have a dog in between my legs I can relate it's a hot breath that I see down there

that's how I describe my genitals too it's a hot breath it's a hot breath that I just see down there. That's how I describe my genitals, too. It's a hot breath. It's a hot breath down there. I know I'm kind of a dog cat whisperer, but your dog's kind of in love with me. Yeah, well, what are you trying to insinuate? I'm just saying this is my souvenir, right? That can have it? Yep, that's the thing.

He's got solid ears. Yep. I'm just saying, he's got a good ear game. Okay. First of all, if you're planning on taking him, it's a her. Okay? All right? Oh, it doesn't matter.

It's a dog. Whoa. Jesus. Is it going to make babies? Is it spayed? Yeah. Big time. Then it doesn't matter.

It's going to make babies big time or spayed big time? I mean, after I spay myself, also you can refer to me as anything. That's how you see anything? If it can't procreate, it's nothing. It doesn't matter. Not that it's nothing. It just doesn't matter. Well, in the eyes of evolution, that's kind of true, right?

Yeah. It just kind of gives up on you once you're not procreating. I mean, isn't that how society is treating us? If you're not going to have babies, we don't really want you around. Well, I mean, I would like your taxes. I'll take those. How is our tribe going to stay strong if we're not going to have babies, we don't really want you around. Well, I mean, I would like your taxes. Yeah, no, of course. I'll take those. How is our tribe going to stay strong if we're not breeding constantly?

That's right. All right. I'll unspay this dog. We'll get it together. We'll figure it out. I should also stop chewing gum, huh? I spit mine out because I'm a professional. I don't know about all that.

You notice how everybody's still like scared to death to swallow gum? I mean, there's a lot of stuff that we're eating that's like ruining us i don't know why gum's the thing well because when you're a kid you probably heard that it takes seven years to digest right i know but so did like burgers like that's the funny thing to me it's like half the stuff we eat isn't real food but we've decided like everybody's like kind of unanimous that gum is bad for you but we're all like what about like gluten and like right you know corn that was made by fake things? And the devil. Yeah.

And we're like, no, that's cool. Swallow gum? No way. Can you pass me that chemical goop? Thank you. Yeah. I love that pink stuff on burgers. That makes sense.

They probably just make McNuggets out of gum that people spit out. Hey, that's a good way to recycle. I mean, yeah, no. Good on them. I think as long as you use something twice, you're doing something good. Just like the Native Americans. Yeah. They used every piece of the nugget. They didn't let any of it go. That's for sure. Well, Liz, thank you for coming

over and doing the show. Wanted to have you on in the winter, but old man winter is all different. Yeah, no, it's screwed up a lot of my plans. I've dug out my car like six times. You have a car in New York? I do. It's the dumbest thing you can do.

How does that work? A lot of towing. How do you ever park ever? Well, honestly, it depends on the neighborhood. My neighborhood's not too bad. I used to try to come home Sunday nights after gigs. I wouldn't take the hotel and I would come home Sunday night because I just want to sleep in my own bed.

But it is, I mean, I've spent an hour trying to park Sunday nights. It's the worst time to park. It's better to come back on like a Monday when everybody's not around. Let's say you're just punching your steering wheel for an hour. But that's the only time it's ever been hard is like four, I've been in my neighborhood now for four years. So other than like a handful of times where I've literally looked for an hour and i was like i'd rather someone take my

they should tow it like just tow it just tow it i'll just pay to have it towed seriously seriously take this albatross away from me yeah get it out of here but but otherwise it's actually really not that bad and i don't you know i don't have a day job so we have to move our car if you're on the monday side or the tuesday side for an hour and a half and i don't do a day job, so we have to move our car if you're on the Monday side or the Tuesday side for an hour and a half, and I don't do it. What neighborhood do you live in? I live in Kensington. It's in Brooklyn. It's residential.

It's like houses. Weird. I don't think I realize. Like in Spider-Man. Yeah. It's like one of those things. That's the only New York movie I've seen where they have houses. Yeah, and you're kind of like, what is this?

But it's even creepier. If you go further into my neighborhood, like I've gone for runs, it's like i mean green grasses and like mansions and shit you're like what this is new york it like blows your mind because you're like if i'm gonna have a house like i would want it somewhere where i wouldn't like leave and then feel like i'm gonna get murdered which is if you go further in my neighborhood you're it is it's like really ghetto and then it's these beautiful mansions and these beautiful lawns and there is no gate but it almost feels a little bit like That's how Baltimore is. It feels like a gated community

in a little way where you're like, I don't want to, like, their lawn. It looks like somebody might attack me. Yeah, like it's an invisible gate. We spend extra. It's an underground gate. Actually, the gate is intimidation. They're like, this is really working. I don't want, it looks a little too nice. Just put down people as they walk by

and they won't go on your lawn. Exactly. They probably paid for snipers or something. I don't want to risk it. I don't want to risk it. Yeah, no, that's how I protect my home. How long have you been in New York? 11 years. Wow, really?

Damn. Are you from here? I'm from Jersey, so it's the same but not the same credit. Right. People are like, you're kind of a bitch. New York and I'm like Jersey, and they're like, oh, you wouldn't of a bitch new york and i'm like jersey and they're like oh you wouldn't stab me they're like really yeah they it's weird like everybody like i get in new york a lot because i have a bad attitude and i curse a lot yeah but as soon as i say jersey

they're like really all right all right yeah it's like cool if you're an asshole and you're from new york yeah but if you're an asshole from anywhere else it's not okay oh yeah and i'm like we drive just as bad as New Yorkers. Like, I don't understand why we can't have that same credit. Right. But, yeah. So, it's the same without the street cred.

Gotcha. New Jersey. No, no. No cred. Yeah. Nobody really respects you. Yeah. Nobody respects you.

That's good. Good. But you were in D.C. area, right? For a while? Or were you in Maryland? No, my sister went to George Washington University. So, I mean, some of my earliest, some of the first live stand-up comedy shows I went to were like the D.C. Improv and like shows at George Washington University when she was

going there. So, I've been visiting D.C. She's been here for, I guess, 15 years. So, I've been visiting for 15 years. And then now when I do gigs, she's in Arlington, Virginia. So, I guess, 15 years. So I've been visiting for 15 years. And then now when I do gigs, she's in Arlington, Virginia. So I'm here. I mean, she calls me her roommate. I'm here four or five times a year.

Oh, okay. And I just do, you know, whatever the tri-state area gigs are. And now she has a baby. Yeah. I'm a godmother. I'm pretty responsible. Hey, right. Nice.

Nice. I haven't dropped the baby once. So you are part of the mafia. Yeah. Yeah. Figures. Those are your credits. I mean, I am Italian. Godmother. New Jersey. mafia. Yeah, yeah. Figures. Those are your credits. I mean, I am Italian.

Godmother. New Jersey. A house in New York. Come on. There's no way. I haven't stabbed anybody yet, but I have a lot of potential. Right.

I've shot a few people. Yeah, no. It's a cleaner, less intimate way of asserting authority. Absolutely. I mean, it depends on how you do it. Yeah. No, that's true.

Right, right. So did you start doing stand-up down here or start in new york i started uh in new york even though i was in jersey i uh i started when i was 16 and i would just take the new jersey transit and your parents were like yeah go ahead um kind of right they didn't know about the first time i did it um and my liz where were you not doing stand-up good yeah i mean... You better be on drugs. Yeah, I mean, it's funny. I stopped doing...

I got really responsible when I started doing stand-up, which is the opposite path of most comedians. Like, I stopped doing drugs, and I stopped drinking, and I quit smoking cigarettes. Like, I mean, I got, like, Uber. I was like, I have things to do, and I have joke ideas. And this is when you were 16? That gives you, like, a hundred times advantage over every other comedian in the world.

Yeah, I've always been a responsible, irresponsible person. Like I'm not going to have a savings, but I will be on time to my shows. I'm the same way. I'm the same way. That's me too. Like I'm probably going to park somewhere irresponsibly, but I have $200 in my bank account. So why not? Why not spend that on my car?

It's good to have a balance. It's good. Very good. But at 16, you're like, I got to hang it up. I'm drinking too much. I got to focus. Party is over. Time to gather together.

I'm in 10th grade. Yeah. 11th. Slightly. Yeah. I started doing all that stuff when I was 13, which it's like all self-medicating. It's like peer pressure and self-medication. my friends were doing it and again i would and it feels really good too i mean it's lovely i can't do most of it anymore have you tried drugs

hi i'm josh i mean you feel great downside there's a reason why people get addicted to this stuff yeah let's not talk about it anyway enjoy we're all on molly check out drugs.com it's molly by the way i feel like i've asked this three times in the last year and i mean i don't completely understand what it is but i just know people look crazy on it yeah it's supposed to be like pure mdma which was the active ingredient in ecstasy yeah but now molly's just as stepped on as ecstasy so yeah i I mean, I don't know. I've heard, you know, I don't know. I've never done it. How are we going to all make people believe we're on it? Right.

We don't know what it is, guys. Although I think most people that do drugs, you don't know what it is. You're just like, they're just like, just make sure you drink a lot of water or your brain fries. So, I mean, that's how I did ecstasy. I was 14 years old and somebody's like, just drink a lot of water or you might die. And I'm just like, I just want to fit in. Yeah, you're just sweating like crazy okay all right there's always like the one guy in like the high school or college campus that knows exactly what drugs you can and can't do together yeah that's my little brother my little brother's like that my little brother's the type

of person that's like no no you don't want to do it that way you want to do it that way if you do it that way and you're like yo like this is untapped potential to like a job like a drug dealer you should deal these things yeah i mean he's so like if you know that much about something like i don't know you should definitely be responsible in some sense because drug dealer potential do something about it get out. Get out there. Get on out there. There really should be a program. Yeah, hit the streets, really. Get into it. Somebody was actually telling me that there was a guy, it's like a true story, that there

was a guy that was a drug dealer and he took community courses on business and then he would come back to the kids that were drug dealing for him and teach them how to do it. Yeah, I've heard stories about that. I mean, that's awesome. That was Stringer Bell in The Wire. Oh, bell in the wire oh really yeah maybe that's what it was i think that was like based on somebody yeah yeah all yeah all of them were no it's really funny like they show him in class and they're talking about having an elastic product something that's something that can last and all this stuff so then he's like taking notes in class because he's like

what you got here is a motherfucking elastic product but that's also like when you think about supply and demand you're like yeah yeah like there's no better example than drugs like you know what i mean like i that is true but then i always think of something like diamonds which is a fake supply and demand like they actually have no real value but they make it so it has value because all it is is kind of pretty like i think they're gross and of course people are losing their arms for it so i'm just like why would i want this to symbolize love it seems kind of sad child died for this exactly a child died for this and it's actually technically not worth anything it's like manipulated worth and you're like you're

like is this like marriage you're like i don't want this yeah well it's probably something that was like beautiful back in the day like when you couldn't manufacture anything oh absolutely but now you can make something just as pretty yeah they have shattering diamonds and all that school window at this point i feel like somebody should buy that much in like cocaine it actually does have a real supply in the van and give it to you like you gave me all this cocaine you must really like me you wear it in like a necklace. How big was your rock?

I don't know. Second double entendre of the night from Josh. Oh yeah. One more. Feeling good. Going home with a dog between your legs. Callback number one for me.

I don't have a pen and paper. I can't do all this. You don't have a pen and paper i can't i can't do all this no no don't worry you don't you don't have to write it down i feel like i should i feel like i'm the notekeeper yeah take notes would you yeah liz can you take the minutes on this it's really gonna help the editing process you're welcome i'm gonna have to know what's we have a clock in the corner just watch that can we go over the minutes from the last episode please before we start this one uh okay so you started at 16 that's crazy where were you going up in uh new york um initially i was going up at um i did like like the first place i ever worked was i did like the bringer

show at the comedy cellar when i was 16 and then i did like these little these little small rooms like rose's turn i actually don't even know if it exists anymore, which the second show I ever did, um, I met my current, my now like best friend, current roommate. But like,

this was like probably eight years before we became friends. So it's kind of funny, but she's hard to forget. She's six feet tall and she's half Spanish. And she was like really monotone at 16 as well. Yeah. I like how you assume that i'm doing comedy with other 16 year olds which was the reality that everybody

was 30 and i looked like i was 12 you're right good point i mean for some reason i was picturing it's like it's a 16 year old hour at the comedy cellar but that was dumb yeah i'm a dumb person well it's funny because there's people that have known me Since I was 16 and they'll be like So how's college going and you're like Do you just think I don't age Yeah I have one guy that does that to me Every single time I see him Dad I am a lot older

I do not need you to help me In the bathroom I am a big boy But I will take $10 Thank you. I have one guy who I worked with briefly when I was 21, doing his construction stuff. Every time I see him, he's like,

you're still living with your mom? You're not involved with that girl anymore, are you? Just somebody bringing up old wounds. You're like, what is this guy? Michael, did you ever catch all those Pokemon? You wanted to catch them all, I remember. I've been saving these pogs for you. You're still doing it all for the nookie.

Here you go, Michael. You're doing it all for the nookie? You son of a bitch. Okay, so the Comedy Cellar. That's crazy. That was the first place I ever did a bringer show. I did a couple other ones. And then I was doing just like open mics around town

and then somebody introduced me to Ha Comedy Club which is where you would hand out flyers to get stage time. It's like one of the worst, it's like what hell would be. It's one of the worst places. The club?

Oh, it's horrible. You don't think it'd be more like the Holocaust? No, because I feel like they were more open about how horrible they were as people. Well, this place, I mean, it's still an awful place. Oh, your mic's out, Mike. Yeah, I mean, every time you make a Holocaust joke, you should get your mic cut.

Yeah, that's one, Michael. Oh, what do you know? Mike is cut again. That's too bad. Were you thinking about the Holocaust? Yes, I was. mike's just screaming in the background 9-11 was an inside job josh has been claiming that my mic has been cut for like the last year and a half like every episode i'm like what the hell and he's like yeah mike

problems sorry man maybe you should just go home yeah we'll figure this thing out man i promise by no i know i know yeah no i don't. I still love you, baby. Come on. You know I love you. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. So, you're barking, having to give out flyers.

Yeah, like handing out flyers to get stage time. And in a lot of ways, as shitty as the place was, I was getting up three times a night almost every single night, especially when I moved there for college. Putting in your 10,000 Gladwellians. But the truth is, in the beginning, it has nothing to do with being funny or what the it's just about being uncomfortable on stage getting the reps in like even when i do a new joke i actually don't need the audience i'll just like play it in my head or i'll say it out loud and it's just about getting the words out and figuring out how it sounds and just kind of fucking around so like i think about i was there for like two and a half

years i think i got kicked out when I was like 19. And it was good because it was a show. Kicked out? They kick everybody out. They're crazy people. Is this the place in Times Square? Yeah, it's moved around. It was in like Hell's Kitchen. And then it was like.

And then by the time I was gone before it moved like right into the heart of Times Square. They moved into what used to be laser tag or whatever nice and now they're in another part of time square um all like pretty central but it's like it's like all a sham it's like watered down drinks and like i mean like right not paying comics and yeah everything about it it's just did you have to lie about people that were going to show up like dave chappelle's in there right now i mean there are people that did that. I never did. I mean, I would just make a little joke and hand out flyers.

And I mean, that's the nice thing. Like, there's a lot of stuff that sucks about looking like you're 12 and being a tiny woman. And then there's a lot of things that are beneficial where it's kind of like, where's this lost child? I might listen to her. All right, I'll go. Okay, little girl.

You're like, maybe she needs pennies for her college fund. You don't know. She just throws pennies at you. You get like, maybe she needs pennies for her college fund. You don't know. She just throws pennies at you. You get bad attention and you get good attention. Anybody ever just give you food instead? I'm not going to feed your habit, but you can have this taco I was taking out. I'm sure. I'm sure.

You can have the rest of this burrito. I'm not going to finish it, little girl. Absolutely. Yeah. And what's funny about it, especially in Times Square, it was the people in the corner handing out flyers were comedy club people and then like homeless people that hand out stuff for like the lady shows the gentlemen's clubs or whatever those people are homeless um some of them really well they just like give them a sandwich to do that for an hour or something um i wouldn't i i would say that

they're like people that are like down on their luck or whatever i made friends with them so it's like not one of those things where you're judging but but, like, you're kind of, like, you literally are, like, sharing sandwiches with, like, homeless people. It's, like, one of those things when you're, like, hey, Ray, hey, Liz. You know what I mean? How you doing, Liz? How's your wife doing?

She hasn't talked to me in years. All right. She kicked me out of the dumpster. He's, like, all right, come on in, everybody. You can touch the girls. Come on. For $5 extra. Passing out coupons. You can come on the girl all right never mind hey i just doubled down

i'm sorry uh okay so you're doing that and you're getting just get the reps in right and then yeah and like you would make i think you got two bucks per person that came in with your flyers like you put your initials so i was making like side money while I was like in college and stuff, nothing big, but I would probably come home with like maybe a hundred, 150 bucks a week. And then, you know what I mean?

And I was getting up for the world of comedy. Oh yeah. And then I was, and then I was getting up like 15 times a week and just, I mean, not doing well or anything, but still that's a ton. Oh,

I mean, I, by the time I had been doing it three years i mean the compliment people gave me is that i was very comfortable on stage and you can get away with a lot of shit when you look like you belong somewhere that is true i mean yeah if the audience sees that you're comfortable it makes them comfortable yeah all of a sudden they're like whoa i guess she knows what she's talking about yeah and so maybe she just moisturizes like i don't know like it's soy milk i hear yeah drinks a lot of soy almond maybe i don't know i don't know uh wow so that's 16

that's so crazy to me like what were you talking about did you i mean did you have you guys ever watched saved by the bell yeah you're saying this boy meets world shit you know what's so funny is i still like i have a couple like kind of pop culture jokes but for the most part i've never talked about anything like i've never really talked politics that much and i've never all kardashian stuff myself yeah i mean like you kind of like it's gonna stand up yeah i think so but you know what's weird about like pop culture stuff is like most of the time you're making fun of it because you don't respect it but then you also need that to stay around because it's part of your bit yeah where like i don't

need like i don't like somebody was reading to me like the whole drake likes his butt licked thing and i was like i was like i don't want to know i don't care and why do like so he likes his butt getting licked like let like who gives a shit like i know he invites that on somebody likes getting her butt licked i'm just like, I imagine it would be nice. I mean, like, your dog was pretty close. Leave me, I mean, him alone, okay? But, like, my thing is when you click on it, it doesn't matter what it's about.

The person now believes that, reinforces that that's something that people care about, and that's all you're going to hear. And it's like, I don't care. Like, I i don't care but you're making me try to care or you're now making it something that people are gonna it's now like pushes important stuff down and puts bullshit up and it's like for me like there's um like there's this comic uh uh colin cain that he's not as talked about but like he's one of those people that he says really fucked up stuff about women and black people,

and he gets these articles written about him. And then people are like, what a horrible person. But then you click more and more, and you make him more popular, and it's like, don't click on him. Yeah, the Westboro Baptist Church thrives on that type of stuff. I mean, all of them do,

and you just have to, you literally have to treat it like, I don't care. I don't care. Indifference. I mean, just don't just, oh, he said something fucked up. If you click on it, they read the clicks and they don't care that you're angry about it. Yeah. Every time you share it. And then it just keeps going. Yeah. I mean, even just mentioning his name, I'm

sure he's going to get, like, four, like, views and I've just made things better for him. We're a big deal. We're a big deal. Hate is not the opposite of love and differences. That's very true. Zing. I mean, do you have like an Instagram picture of that quote? With like a sunset behind it.

It's a picture of your brunch. I don't know what inspirational quotes are. I mean, that's where I put all my inspirational quotes on. Pancakes, banana pancakes is where I find all wisdom. Yeah, you spell it out in the bananas. Yeah, no, I'm really talented. That's already kind of making a retro comeback. Because that was like a thing like five years ago, like doing pictures of your food, right?

Yeah. And I feel like it's already kind of getting a little bit of a retro return. I would like the idea, like my thing is like I don't care what you take a picture of just be good at it you know what i mean like i i take a picture of my cat like every day but like i don't just post any picture of my cat i try to have something unique about it her eyes look weird right from the 5 000 pictures you take your cat how can you find something unique every single day with your cat i mean i'm really talented yeah she has like an extra tail or something but at the end of the day i have 12 years of jokes about my own life you find some i don't talk about everything that happens in every day you find the thing that's kind of interesting and you work on it but it's like the truth is and

i i'm the idiot that never deletes them like i have almost no room in my phone because it's 500 pictures of my cat and then i'm like that one's good and then i leave all the other ones that are blurry she's attacking me she's hitting something important and i just keep them just in case i mean it's i live in organized chaos okay that's i'll show i have a picture of my desktop on my phone to show somebody how you don't want to be inside my brain how crazy you are i mean it's it's batshit batshit crazy but it's a system that works for you i wouldn't say it's working okay okay dude if you're a stand-up comedian and don't have a day job it's working yeah that's a way of putting it that's that's it i mean like i in some ways i'm like if i had an intern everything would be great and then

i also think if i had an intern i might kill somebody like somebody might die realizing my process right like you'd be like throwing your phone at the person and stuff yeah and they'll be like they'll be like first of all i don't know how to spell like that's a problem like i'm spell check is not helping me with that either no well i'm super dyslexic so what bothers me is that i i always try to get somewhere close and see if it can help me and it never can and then i'll go to like google or dictionary.com and try to but it's like when you get to three different websites and they're all like we have no idea. Like what's wrong with my brain? I feel like they're trying to teach me a lesson.

I don't know. How would you spell that? It's 26 letters. And how have I jumbled them so terribly that it has no. And then you go and then I'll ask my roommate who learned Spanish first before she learned English. And she just knows. And you're just like, what's wrong with my brain? My best is because whenever I send a writing packet or something,

I send it to a couple of friends to make sure, A, it's funny, and B, that I don't look like a moron. And I mean, the comments that come back. And these are women that have known me for 15 years. They're always like, aw, do you believe in commas? Is that something in your religion? No? No?

OK. That's like when you do something bad, something bad will happen to you. What do you mean? Do something good. Something. Kamas? I don't understand. I'm lost.

I'm making a joke about karma. Oh, yeah. I get it. Can we cut his mic? Yep. Yep. Just gonna. Oh, man.

It's malfunctioning again. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. No more coffee for this guy. I made a joke about coming on strippers. Okay. Well. Single me out. I know our audience. I know what they like. I'll say something dumb soon, guys. Oh boy No more coffee for this guy He made a joke about Coming on strippers Hey well Single me out

I know our audience I know what they like I'll say something dumb soon guys We'll all get there Finally For the record I don't think coming on You know what

Forget it Let's just move on I like how you're drinking Out of like I mean that's A mason jar I'm going for it At this point it's borderline

Like where people Would deliver milk Like it's that big Yeah For the listeners In the milkman jug Yeah it's borderline where people would deliver milk. It's that big. For the listeners that have a milkman jug. Yeah, it's huge. I mean, hydration is key.

I'm proud of you. Why are you delivering milk to your door? Why can't you just buy that with your groceries? Do you know grocery stores used to be you would go there, you would give them a list, and somebody would go around the store or go around the back and get it for you? And then people were like, we want to do it ourselves. And you're like, what? Who was the idiot that was like like we want to do it ourselves and you're like what who was the idiot that was like we want to do it i know i would love to tip the guy i'm sure but what was that yeah but they have those it's back now well i guess with those like yeah websites yeah there's apps where you can hire people to go to the grocery store and get all your shit and they bring it right to your door but we had like a

full 50 years where we had to get it ourselves. You're right. Aren't you a little upset about that? I am a little upset. Liz, I'm pissed. We can't get those 50 years back. There's no app to get those 50 years back. I like neither of us are close to 50,

but we're like, we'll never get it back. We've only been grocery shopping for like a third of our lives. Mike, your mic went out again. Come on. There it is. Get out of here.

That's a bad chord. It's part of the charm of the show, I would like to think. Our little rickety. Technical on. There it is. Get out of here. That's a bad chord. It's part of the charm of the show, I would like to think. Our little rickety. Technical difficulties. Pretty much the only charm of the show, I think. Can we call this place Technical Difficulties? I think we could. This little rickety podcast that could maybe not make coming jokes.

Anyway. Possibly. So how long before you were getting booked on pretty big gigs and stuff because you like you said you it still hasn't happened but i mean you toured right like i saw you were in alaska um yeah yeah no i did a military tour um yeah in may uh-huh um i did i've been touring with the nobodies of comedy it shows you how well i'm doing that's like um i hate when people have those names yeah and you're like i mean i've never been so sad and excited at the same time in my life where i'm like money and theaters and happiness and hanging with my

friends and oh i have to post things that say the nobody it's nothing like being doing anything for 12 years and people like nobody knows what you're doing oh okay my parents still don't get it yeah when you're telling your parents i'm on tour with the nobody yeah no it's like oh pretty big pretty big deal glad you're doing that um so i was doing a bunch of stuff with them and then sometimes when i get a string of stuff it's just me gone for a while people like you touring and you're like i had something like that something so you're featuring on the road um featuring and headlining it depends on the place you know what i mean so i like to say that i headline uh b rooms and i feature at eight rooms you know what i mean uh-huh so it's like if

it's somebody that's been doing it forever and been on tv or whatever it makes sense right but like it really does get so jumbled like all my like to me the best thing you can do is put your pride aside and just work. Like I open up for my friends all the time and they open up for me. I have a dude that's been opening for me for a couple of years and he just asked me to feature for him. And I was like, sure. I was like, yeah, wine. I mean, I just want to get up. It's people I enjoy and who gives a shit. Right. You know what I mean? I would like to make more money and headline more places. But I mean, it's funny because i just did a gig with a

friend which literally she was like do you want to come with me and we just wanted to drive somewhere it was like a hundred bucks and i was and the guy pulled me aside he's like you shouldn't be featuring you're like really good and i was like i literally was like i'm not a feature i'm just i literally like it's the summer i don't really work much and this is my best friend and she's going on a road trip with your friend yeah i mean like i wasn't in town for like three months so then when you do get in town people are like do you want to do this shitty gig and you're like i would love to hang out your hangout starts to be gigs and you just yeah that's totally how i like i pretty much don't go out yeah unless i'm performing and we even joked we hit i mean going to this gig in connecticut it was supposed to

take an hour and a half it took us like almost four hours because of traffic it was ridiculous but we ended up going back and forth on on she you know she kept apologizing because I was driving I was like we both fixed like three jokes I was like it's just like a moving cafe I was like we would have just done this at a coffee shop yeah right you would just be hanging out anyway except for you're inhaling toxic fumes the entire time

yeah no of course and you know I've cursed more than is necessary I mean if we were in a coffee shop people would be like she either has Tourette's or she's gonna to murder everyone. And you have to put your shoes on. Pretty much. She's from New Jersey. Look at her plates.

It's okay. She can't spill. I don't know how I know that. No, I think that's awesome. Like, just doing like whatever shows available,

you know what I mean? Because I feel like that's the best way to do it too and it reinforces different muscles too. Absolutely. and you have to have boundaries like anything in life like there's stuff that i won't do because it's not worth my time or i mean there's certain shows where i'm like i don't care even if it's good money i'm not doing that gig yeah that's why i turned on snl yeah you're like i'm better than this and i'm kind of special i'm a mad tv guy yeah okay thank you

but like i mean i remember the first time i said no to a gig it was probably like four years because i used to never say no to anything i was like stage time is everything just whatever whatever and i remember there was this gig that was four blocks from my apartment and it was the worst gig every time every time this guy always booked me worst gig every i mean i would always walk home it's a four block walk and i would always look maybe i shouldn't be doing this i just i mean this by and it was just that game all the other ones even if it didn't go well i still like got something from it this one made me hate my life yeah and made me like what was so terrible about it i i mean it just wasn't conducive to comedy and then it never really had an audience and if

it did they were like abusive and you're like this isn't this isn't this isn't helpful at all yeah it was the first time that i was like and this is one of the best lessons i've ever learned if i walk away and i don't want to do this anymore this isn't the right room for me so like this guy emailed me it really pissed me off too this guy emailed me and this is how i know i'm like i do have to get better about like weeding some gigs out this guy emails me he goes i need you know i'm like i do have to get better about like weeding some gigs out this guy emails me he goes i need you on my show like on facebook and i was like need all right this guy's already a weirdo but i was like when is it and he was like wednesday at eight it's like only 20 minutes from my apartment and i didn't have a gig that night and i was like i

have new stuff let's do it he needs me he needs me you know i'm like that's when i'm kind of like am i a nobody clearly flip the pig tails back clearly so talented um so i go and it's literally anybody can go on stage and they encourage people to shout at you no yeah wow and i turned to this guy that like i've known and i was like wait what and he goes yeah i go did you know about this when he booked you he goes no i didn't i go where is this dude yeah so he introduces me and i'm kind of trying to be calm about it like i'm a crazy angry person but i also know like things get misconstrued and it's just comedy like i really do like i have a lot of logic inside me but my heart is kind of like murder everyone and i go wait let's see his side of the story list before i murder him yeah exactly so i was like hey dude i

was like is there like a portion where people tell jokes? And he goes, no, it's the fun part about it. And I go, dude, like fun part. I was like, whatever your show is, that's great. There's tons of themed shows in New York. But that's something you tell people before you book them. And he was just like, well, you know, I attached I attached like a link and did it. And I go, dude, that's kind of not good

enough i was like you kind of are wasting my time he's like well i'll put you up it'll be fun and i just like walked away and then he sent he's added me to like four groups and sent me like three emails being like i really want you on my show i really think you would enjoy it dude why would i ever trust you again what a waste of my time how about you ask me if i want people to shout stuff at me i mean i'm especially when it's a stand-up show like what are you talking about like i'll tell you it's like if i came somewhere and you're like it's a storytelling show where everywhere wears a costume so get ready and you're like you kind of have to warn me yeah but it's like i i'll decide what i want to do and it takes

you a while like a to be in a place where you can make those decisions and b to realize that like you have an agenda there's even people that don't write their jokes down or they just dick around on stage there's still an agenda and it's like i do stuff that follow through with my agenda yeah yeah no i'm kind of learning that too that there are certain shows where it's just you're not going to get anything from it like you know then yeah i wrestle that too it's like am i just not good like sometimes an audience will just be so tight and you're like, I don't know. Pretty much once or twice a week I have that show. Like thinking like, maybe this just isn't right.

Yeah, like trying to just break through it. Like I did a show the other day and I said to the audience, it's like, hey guys, how we doing? How's it going? Nothing. Nothing. And it's like, whoa. Sorry. Jesus Christ.

Sorry. Trying to tell my great story of how the audience hates me. What's going on? Smile icon. Yep. Jesus Christ. Sorry. Trying to tell my great story of how the audience hates me. What's going on? Smile icon. Yep. Okay. Are we good? We're all right.

But I was only like the fourth person to go up, so I can understand if it was like a marathon show. I love the sound effects that are in the studio. We have some growling. Yeah, Josh is at the growling button. I'm waiting for like an ice cream truck to come by and I know Mike's phone was just going on helicopter but yeah it's only like the fourth person to go up I just snapped yeah but yeah it's just like it's like okay nice not like most people are just like yeah whoa like I don't need

him to go nuts but just some response there. And then it felt like every joke I was telling was the first joke. Just like, what's next? Jesus Christ. I went on a week ago, the host like right before I went on, a woman, I think he tried to get a table to be quiet and the woman accused him of being disrespectful.

And then he just kind of was like, okay, well, this next comedian isn't disrespectful. Please. Oh, my God. It doesn't even help you out. Smooth.

It's funny because. He handled it like fairly well in that he wasn't like a dick or anything. But it was just like, oh, great. This is good to go. I like that transition. And like those shows have benefits, too. Like I used to work at this club. It doesn't exist anymore.

It's called the Laugh Lounge. And like, I mean, it was one of the first places to start giving me like paid work i was like probably 19 years old and almost all the spots were last minute i at the time when it first opened up i lived like 10 blocks away so she'd be like hey can you get here in five minutes and you're like i guess so you're exhausted and then it's like not a good crowd and you're like okay i'm out of breath and i'm scared right right and it was a predominantly like they i mean i was one of the only females she booked and one of the only white people she booked it was like predominantly like latino and black people and that was the audience as well and it was some of the best shows i ever did of

my early career and some of the worst shows i've ever done in my entire life like walk home crying jesus christ but like the truth is is like it made like i would say i don't do it often unless I have to because it's not what I want to do. But I know how to talk to a crowd. I know how to. And it came from the fact that people were like, we don't like you. We don't like your material. And you start to realize, oh, I can talk to people. And it took me a long time.

But like you said, you do a joke and it's like nothing. You do a joke and it's nothing. And you have to do. And she would leave me on there for like 30 minutes because she's last minute yeah she what she would do is she would call all the comics that were in the area because the club was never doing well so she would not book the show because she didn't want to waste anybody's time and then people would show up so let's say 10 people show up at 8 30 so literally she would always book the host but she wouldn't book anybody else so she'd be like liz todd so you literally were on stage until the next person came and i never you were always

planned to do 15 minutes but i've done a half hour to a crowd that's never wanted to talk to me ever again jeez that's a long talk about something i mean it's a long 30 even when you're doing well but i'm 19 i've been doing comedy for like three years. I mean, it's like, I have nothing, but you, I mean, it's, it's, it's one of those things that like, I mean,

it was all the, all these horrible experiences were really important. Like they, they kind of, yeah. Cause I mean, it's the reason that when my material even now isn't doing, I bombed for an hour so many times that it's like,

you just kind of like, it's fine. Like I can do it. I really want to get to that point. You kind of, it sounds silly, like you just kind of like it's fine like i can do it i really want to get to that point you kind it sounds silly but you kind of do like yeah totally it's funny because i still have a this is what i don't like about my brain i still have nightmares about forgetting my jokes like every couple of months i'll have the these nightmares but i've forgotten my jokes on state like i've done it so many times that i don't understand what like it's happened and i'm

fine right but i don't have jokes like i don't understand what it's happened and I'm fine. But I don't have jokes. I don't have dreams about bombing, which has happened all the time. Which has never not happened. Yeah. I mean, I'm still waiting for people are like, how are shows going? I'm like, are they supposed to go on? I think I might get a laugh next year. I'm pretty excited about it.

Fingers crossed. Soon somebody's comedy. Okay. So, yeah. It sounds like, yeah, like Mike was saying, you definitely have your 10,000 hours. Like, that's great. I mean, you said 12 years? Yeah, 12 years.

Holy shit. It's kind of nuts because I remember when I started at 16, I was like, when I'm 26, I'll have been doing it 10 years. And I remember when I turned 26 being like, I thought I'd be farther. I thought I'd be famous. Not lie maybe next year but it is i i would say around 10 i would say around 9 10 years is when i started to actually trust my writing which is kind of weird like it was the it was around that time and it's it it's never conscious but but you start to go, oh, if I'm really passionate about a joke, I'll figure out how to make it work. Where before, I mean, I abandoned jokes left and right.

You'd work on them, and they just wouldn't work. And you're like, I guess that donut joke is never going to be funny. And you're like, donuts just aren't funny, and I'm not funny, and you just abandon it. But you get to a point where you're like. I like how donuts, they're trash now yeah and if i hear somebody make a funny donut joke i'm like that guy's brilliant that guy he cracked the code i mean i've been working on it is in the hole good one sir but i i mean that's when i started i mean i rarely abandon a joke i care about now

yeah okay where before it was like that well that's not working and that's not working now it's like if i if this is a premise i really care about now it might take me forever to get to it but i'll figure it out right and now and i've also learned how my brain works and that took forever and i think it's weird how people talk about finding your voice and i don't know if that's as what i'm really talking about or as accurate as people or like as um all conclusive conclusive it just doesn't feel like really what's happening when people say find your voice because like when i think of find your voice i think it's like your perspective on things and i mean some people don't know their perspective some people just know i'm like mitch headberg is always the best example per perspective, which is you hear the joke

and you go, oh, that totally makes sense. And I totally agree. But I don't know if I've ever would have thought of that perspective. And that's why it's like solely him. I agree with him, but I don't think I would have thought of that that way. And he's totally like, right. But like to find your perspective, I think some people just know it and some people really do need to take time to learn it or understand it.

And you know, sometimes you don't realize that you've just been brainwashed by everything around. Not brainwashed as much as you've been influenced and you don't really know where you're getting your ideas. You have your parents talking to you, you have your friends talking to you, you have the TV. You have your co-leader talking to you.

Exactly. You're just like, when are we gonna just drink the Kool-Aid and move forward? I have the Reeboks and the sweatpants. You have the co-leader talking to you exactly you're just like when are we gonna just drink the kool-aid and move forward i have the rebox and the sweat leader talking to you every morning on the radio you can't turn off i get it you start to realize that you've never just listened to your own voice and i think that takes a while yeah but then when you start to realize that like you have a process of how you think about things and not just about like i've realized realized, I run a lot and I get most of my writing done and my problem solving.

I like that too. Exercise definitely helps because you get the blood flowing, you kind of feel at ease as well. Yeah, like the shower in the hot tub after working out at the gym is like where the wheels turn. And of course,

I forget to write it all down. Mine always happen when I drive. Like running, I can stop. But driving, it's not until i got like an iphone where i can like talk to it right but i mean i've almost died so many times they're gonna like find your wreckage with the funniest joke ever and i also think it's really funny because it's people are like don't text and drive and i'm like i'm clearly writing down a bit that's

gonna like take my career to the next level it's worth dying for don't write nobody said anything about writing officer i'm writing a bit it's totally different it. Don't write bits and drops. Nobody said anything about writing. Officer, I'm writing a bit. It's totally different. It has nothing to do with friendship. He's like, all right, let me see. Like, well, fucking donuts, right? Well, the thing about cops. Oh. Oh, boy.

So, yeah, so you got to figure out your brain before you figure out your voice. And I think some people are able to figure that out. Like, some people don't realize, like, your discipline in college or your discipline and how you deal with problems in your life like i'm i started to realize it's all very simple similar like if i have something troubling me it's the same kind of process as if i have a joke that's not working out right like what's the root of this thing where does

it build to and you really just i mean i would say the last couple of years i started to understand how my brain works. Wow. Interesting. It kind of has helped my writing. And it's also trusting it. Because I think you get to a point like. You're like, okay, brain, I trust you. But don't push your luck, mister. But early comedians, what's the most annoying is they're kind of always like, is this funny?

Is this funny? Have you heard of this? And you get to a point where you're like, I know there's something here. And this is what I think it is. I'm just going to keep working through it until I feel how I feel. And then they also feel how I feel. And you kind of and you don't really need anybody. You still test your joke. Yeah.

But like there'll be times where it's not going well and I don't really make that many tweaks. I'm kind of like I'm going to teach them to know that this joke is right. Yeah. And it's a weird it's a weird kind of confidence. But I've done jokes where I really haven't tweaked that much, and they've gotten better without me really fixing the joke. It's me just being like, I know if I just, I'm just not saying it right,

but I know this perspective is funny. Right, it's kind of what we talked about earlier, being comfortable on stage. Like, all right, I mean, it seems like she believes in this thing. Okay, all right. So what then have you found is your perspective, if you can put that into words at all? I'm definitely angry.

Well, you keep alluding to this furious temper. Well, let's come back. I mean, I'm... How can we piss her off to see this? But that's the thing is that I... I drank out of a big glass. Yeah, no, I find that ridiculous. That's probably...

I find it ridiculous and you should be glad that there's some distance between us. But I'm also proud of your hydration. Thank you. I mean, it's really hot outside. It's between this and a big bottle, you know? Which I also drink out. Big baby bottle. Puts on a bonnet and everything. That's his whole act, actually. I like it. Big baby Josh.

I'm the big baby. I wheel him out in his stroller. He has a cron with a big safety pin. Yeah, exactly. I like your. Big baby Josh. I'm the big baby. Yep. I wheel him out in a stroller. He has a cron with a big safety pin. Oh, yeah, exactly. I like your catchphrase. Thank you. That's it. That's it.

Every time I make a joke, I made a joke joke. Yep. He wears a big bib. Yeah. I hope that really works out for you. Hey, Liz, thanks. Appreciate that. I want you to feature for me when you come down.

I mean, absolutely, buddy. I mean, pride aside, I open up for babies. I dress up like a mother. Yeah, no, I mean, I'm very authoritative. I can yell at you. I'd be like, those bits could get better, baby. Okay, Liz. But I want candy.

I forget the question. Sometimes he has a big lollipop. I call it a sucker. What have you found is your perspective oh um so you're angry but we're gonna circle back to that like i i definitely i live in a fantasy world and i've started to realize that my my bits are kind of talking about how i perceive things and how it might not be as um how other people perceive things so like i'm trying to think of like a a good example but like um like i have a new bit about um riding on the train and

um being in a car by myself in new york city and this cop and i had my feet up on the seat and this cop kicks my feet and so that's like that's the setup of the bit which is like this happened and i filled with rage like just, just filled with rage. Oh, yeah. I'm furious for you. Exactly. Even if it wasn't a cop, just anybody. Yeah.

I'm furious, too. Why would you put your feet up like that? It's a freaking train. It's dirty. It's dirty. Liz. But there's like four or five punchlines to that bit. But like the kind of ultimate punchline I get to after I've kind of gone through all the reasons why I'm angry, I kind of go, you know, if he's allowed to talk to me like he's my mom and this is our living room, then I should be able to respond like he's my mom and this is our living room.

So, hey, get your feet down. Hey, why don't you know how to express love? And then I would say there's like a homeless guy in the corner like this might be my New York City moment. And I think about that bit and I go i go well my perspective is kind of looking at my experience at life and reflecting that on to what other people have experienced so the idea that everybody's had some altercation with a cop where you're like really yeah really do because i even set it up going like i don't mind the cops above ground i have a problem with the ones below ground because they're bored and i know they're bored because they're making up rules. They're just making shit up.

And I go through all the subway rules and I just kind of, I make it into this long bit. And I, the whole, my whole perspective of that bit is like, you, you can't just A, miscellaneously make up rules. And then B, you can't be authoritative for no reason because I've had authority for no reason. And this is what happens. You know what I mean? And I feel like it's

me my filter has become how I was raised and so I have a lot of I kind of allude to um the mental illness that is in my family look it's like rapid um just all over the place yeah horrible and then there's also a lot of abuse in my family so everything's filtered combo it is I mean and that's where anger comes from but it the truth is is that i mean i went from a place of hiding it and not wanting anybody to know about it and being from a place of well it's clearly made my perspective and how how i treat other people and how i want to be treated and what i'm scared of yeah i mean and so it really i started a having you could see that it colored how i talked about stuff and how i felt about people and then i

started to let people know so it's the way i see it is like the way kind of psychology works is a you have an awareness like first you're just doing crazy shit and then you have awareness that you're doing crazy shit like the big baby thing yeah and then when you have the awareness you're able to stop yourself from doing crazy shit so it almost feels like i'm at a phase where i mean you talk about like if you're just being angry everywhere well there's times where I can't control my anger but I've come to a place where I see myself getting angry and that's kind of where my jokes come from where I see myself getting angry and I go

how would I want to handle this if I was if this was a perfect world and how am I going to handle this because I am who I am with the limits and all that I'm not going to punch a cop and I'm not going to say anything shitty to a cop but I will write seven bits and hope I see this cop someday. Right.

So do you actually, like, find it kind of therapeutic to write about, like, your insecurities and or fears and or resentments? Yeah, like, I have a joke that I wrote this winter about being emotionally exhausting, and I mean, to me, it's helped with dating because i mean i can't tell you how many guys have seen it and i'm like are you really still asking me out because i just talked about how emotionally exhausting i am and that being the reason i'm single like i warned you but i mean it's also it helps on stage when people don't like you it's like you have i mean i already know all the things that suck about me you can't you can't hate me any more than I hate myself. And I'm funnier about it. You're just going to be a dick and make people not like you.

I can be funny about it, and I'm probably more perspective about your life than you even are. And it becomes a weapon. It really does become something. And that's your armor. It's your insecurities almost. It does. I'm aware. I mean, it starts to be, like, I have, like,

I went off birth control almost a year and a half ago, and I now say I have a goatee of acne, which is now i i went off birth control um almost a year and a half ago and i i now say i have a goatee of acne which is now my new form of birth control and i i swear because i was really depressed about i was on birth control for so long and my skin was perfect i have like a bunch of jokes about that where i'm just like i never washed my face i was just banging dudes and not washing my face i was like you know what i want to see that commercial instead of proactive yeah and I kept just saying it was the feminist dream but it's like that now where I

I mean I break out like every two weeks and it's just awful and like it's funny I wear like a mud mask and it really is like a goatee that's where all my acne is but like as soon as I wrote that joke because I mean I would cover myself with makeup and makeup only just makes it not red it doesn't fix the problem.

Oh, you have lumpy brown stuff. So I would be on stage. Everybody's looking at me and I feel awful and I feel gross. And then as soon as I did that bit, immediately, it's weird to be like, I felt pretty. Like I was like, I made a bit about something that really upset me. And now it like takes away from like, it's almost like me being like, I know my face is fucked. And I'm okay with it all right everybody because sometimes you do feel like you put this kind of emotional makeup on and

people are like we see that you're fucked up yeah i just hope you know that yeah you just kind of put it like a little bit on time i see your fucked upness and i go yeah i know i know it's like me going around being like i know okay everybody I get it all right I got to it first so fuck you but that's I feel like that's kind of my perspective like ah I know I'm crazy like Jesus Christ okay but yeah and like I think I spent most of my teenage years in my early 20s being like I'm not sure if I'm crazy and then I I'm like, oh, I am. I am. And I will let everybody know so they can't tell me I'm crazy. I'm crazy. I'm cool with it.

I'm cool with it. I'm not cool with it, but I don't have a choice. You've accepted it. I mean, I realize that there are some benefits that do not outweigh the cons, but I will use them. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty amazing. I'm kind of crazy, but I kind of feel that's pretty amazing especially i'm kind of crazy but i

kind of feel like i wouldn't i'm kind of glad that i'm the person that i am yeah you get there i think that's kind of what age and perspective give you right and i think that's the nice thing about being a comic like i talk about my roommate all the time i'm like there's a lot of people that are way crazier than me and my friends oh yeah but nobody wants to be around them because they're just going around trying to keep up with the joneses and be something that they're not and it's sometimes kind of refreshing where people are like how are things going not well and i am not handling it well yeah no i think that's those are the craziest people that are pretending to be normal like oh my god especially when you can see it it's like you can see it from a mile away no i have an office

job so yeah you see that all the time oh my god and it makes you sad like it really it kind of does kind of make you i was waiting for your dog to be like huh that's just an outside dog yeah like the absolutely most pathetic part of my life was probably when i was all fucked up but would like try my best to act like a normal human being no yeah i had that too at like a bunch of family stuff going on. And I'm sure my friends could tell. I'm like, no, I'm not breaking down emotionally. Yeah, no, I just like painting in the dark.

God. I sleep 20 hours a day because I'm tired. Yeah, no, guys. Okay, that's what it is. All right. No, I've been doing a bit about talking to my half-brother for the first time. So I prefaced a bit by saying like my parents divorced early on i know big shocker that the comedian looking for attention from

strangers comes from a broken home but let's work through it so it's nice to like get that stuff out you know and like yeah people like okay yeah that makes sense yeah the other night i got a bunch of woos i was like i come from a broken home like They're like, whoa. This became very therapeutic and weird. Well, you know, it's funny. Like I, I, you do get to a place where like you realize that you're just trying to find your people.

Like that's kind of the creepy part about it is like when people come up to me after the show and they're like, you're brilliant. And I'm like, what happened? You start to be like, sit down. What,

what's going on? I've been in therapy for a long time and I can probably help you. Cause you find me funny somebody touched you and it's been a bad day let's talk about it let's talk about it somebody touched you and it's been a bad i mean it never goes away the bad days never go away uh how much oh go ahead but i mean that's i mean you start to realize that you're like i life is all about connecting with people that's the reason social media is big but it's almost like you're trying to connect but then people are like my life is great and i eat great sandwiches like like like like yeah and you start to realize like even though we're trying to connect we're not doing a very good job at it so like the nice thing about like a movie that's really brutally honest or a comic that's pretty honest or a book that's

brutally honest is you go oh fuck there's somebody out there that fucking yeah the life that i had or the day that i had or they reacted the way i did and you just get like you sweat it's like when somebody goes like i love peanut butter chocolate ice cream you're like i love peanut and you're like it's not that big of a deal but all of a sudden you're like we might have other things to talk about what about when you realize that other people experience deja vu was that weird for anybody else? No. It was like a thing that I didn't realize happens to other people. I think I still get freaked out about it because I don't get what it is.

Even as an adult, I'm having deja vu and I'm like, am I going to die now? The goose walk on my grave. There's a couple of people. Have you ever had it and you don't trust to tell somebody you're having it? Because if it's a really close friend, I'll be like, dude, I just and she'll be like oh that's weird what happened and we'll talk about it but sometimes i'm like they're gonna use it against me they also know what's gonna happen next this has happened before and then you're like okay i have some paranoia so yeah it's like a thing i you know since the truman show movie there's been a diagnosis of Truman Show syndrome for a lot of people.

Yeah. I can actually see with like social media and like the camera and the computers. I can see a lot of that kind of coming together. Yeah. I mean, with YouTube channels where it's just like teenagers being like, hello, followers. And you're like, you have two. And it's your mom and your cousin. Yeah, making sure that you're not crazy. Yeah um i like the idea that we call people followers yeah that's a thing i have so many followers friends kind of even though it's delusional

it's still like yeah we all want friends but when you're like yeah i have 15 000 followers people are like all right so like it's called like you drank your own juice yeah and it's a problem right yeah it's like cult leaders competing. How many followers do you have? Yeah, exactly. Jim Jones has 4,000 followers. Is that your mom?

Yeah. How come you don't know that Jim Jones fell as his own town in South America, Michael? I mean, just, you need to apply yourself. Yeah. I have a feeling they died for him.

But anyway, I'll see you later. So, yeah, so you're killing it in comedy. Doing really well, right? I mean, you're in New York. That's like the foremost comedy mecca. I mean, I'm grateful that I started there. Timonium, Maryland. Yeah, that's where I wanted to start, but they wouldn't let me.

There's high tops and there's Magoobies. There's too much. There's too much. It's not called low tops. Yeah, no. It's a high. There's a lot of laces.

There's shoes. I get it. See what I did there? I get it. It's all right. We're all missing each other. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

You shouldn't be allowed to have that button. Hey, come on. Is that a fight you guys have? Unfortunately, it's his podcast, and it's not a lot I can do. I'm just saying. You should pull him aside. Oh, God. I tried.

You should be a DJ. Trust me, I'm being stabbed in the gut repeatedly right now. Thank you. Thank you, guys. But you also have, you got yourself a web series, Liz. I do. The tricky thing about supporting a web series liz i do that's you know the tricky thing about supporting a web series is uh you did it yourself so it's not like anybody chose you

you can't be like that's because that's it starts to get to that place where you're just like i have a business card yeah i made it myself so it's not like i was at a company napkin yeah yeah it's like when you can make a business card for free you don't have any authority anymore so like now that you can make a business card for free, you don't have any authority anymore. So now that you can make a web series for free, not to say it doesn't take time and I'm not proud of it and it's not amazing. I'm not saying that. But it's not in a place where people give me money.

Right, right. But I'm sure it gets you some interest. I mean, I get a lot of ass. That's the first thing you bring up. You just take a compliment thank you i i do i love my web series even though it causes me so much heartache right well it is called damage it is and it's from all my damage um yeah it's well it's for it's weird i don't really like kids and it's a kid's cartoon but i love kids cartoons and i didn't you just weren't you just bragging about being a godmother

i'm i'm a i'm an aunt and a godmother as of two weeks ago and reluctantly no well yeah i didn't i wasn't like i approve of this pregnancy and i will i mean i i'm they have some weird family pact where everyone has to sign it yeah i'm the second oldest of five like i help raise my little brothers and i love them like a cosigner and but i not, I don't want to have kids of my own. Really? I don't, I have a lot of. Then why did you go off the birth control? I know, right?

Yeah. I think of that every day. Yeah, why did you? I broke, it's weird. I don't know if guys are like this, but when a girl breaks up with somebody or gets broken up with, you want to make a change. Like you're like, if I'm going to be sad, then I'm going gonna have like purple hair or i'm gonna you know what i mean and so i didn't have any money to get purple hair um and i mine is i usually don't want to be alive anymore i want that change well i'm a

control freak so for me it's like i need to go control something and so i had been on it for almost 15 years and everybody had told me it's not good for you. And I was like, and I was having health problems. So I was like, maybe I should go off it. Right. And I've never, I have a joke about it. I've never felt better in my life.

Like I always had a problem. That's probably God punishing you. I mean, probably, I mean, it's, it's one of those things that like, I've always had mood swings and I've,

they've gotten better with therapy, but, uh, and I've always had issues controlling my emotions. I cry a lot and I now always had issues controlling my emotions. I cry a lot. And I now have a joke about crying and nothing makes me prouder that I wrote a two-minute bit about crying.

Nice. And the punchline doesn't always work, but it doesn't matter. It works for me. It works for my soul. Yeah. But it has a couple punchlines. But the main one, I'm just like,

all right, you're not, okay, all right. Where are my depressed people at? Yeah. No? Okay. There's always guys in the room that are like, really? Is she doing this? And I'm like, yeah. And you paid money.

Do you feel dumb? Do you feel dumb? But I mean, I literally have never felt so much better. Like I remember my girlfriends being like, when you're sad, you're actually sad. And when you're happy, you're actually happy. And you're like, that's weird. Why would it make? And I mean, I'll never go back on it. It was kind of a problem

because I never want to have kids and they won't tie your tubes if you don't already have kids. Why is that? That's really weird. It's fucked up and nobody talks about it. Is that a eugenics thing? Well, this is the thing.

First of all, it is reversible, but it's hard as we talked about spaying. And we won't value you as a member of society. But I think it's interesting that we talk about, hey, there's all this debate about birth control and's interesting that we talk about, hey, you know, there's all this debate about birth control and there's all this debate

about abortions, but I literally, I don't know how much your tube's getting tied costs, but if I, let's say it's $3,000, if I had $3,000, I know a guy

who can do it for 20 bucks. Yeah, I mean, what if you're ruining my fallopian tubes, why does it matter? You know what I mean? Like,

I hope I don't internally bleed, but, you just get some talk, you just fill those suckers up. just i mean when you hear about some of these abortions in the 70s you're kind of like that's pretty much what it was it's just like um just jump up and down it'll be fine but to me i think that's even crazier that i can't say even if it's i can get a tattoo at 18 which is permanent, why can't I say I never want to have kids? That sounds like a weird Nazi type of thing.

The government decides if you can have your tattoos done. A doctor won't do it. I don't really care about being famous, but I would like to be famous enough that I can go pay somebody to tie my tubes. Because I don't want to have fake hormones. Liz Mealy is here, everybody. Oh, they come right in.

We would love to take pictures of your ovaries. Exceptions can be made. Because I don't want to have fake hormones in me. Liz Mealy is here, everybody. Oh, they come right in. Yeah, yeah. We would love to take pictures of your ovaries. Exceptions can be made. Yes, yes. That sounds like some weird Nazi eugenics type of stuff, though. Is it like they want the type of people who would have their tubes tied to not do it? Because they want them to have kids? Well, I believe this is where it's kind of fucked up. Because it is reversible.

It's just hard. Yeah. this is where it's kind of fucked up because it is reversible it's just hard yeah and it's also um uh the way uh hormones work is most people don't really want to have kids into their late 20s early 30s so let's say i am 20 and i say i don't want to have kids and then i'm 29 and i go i do and then i guess maybe they don't want to get sued or they don't want to have all these people that are like actually i do want them. Part of me is like, if you can't have them, you can go adopt. There's a bunch of them.

There's like, they're all over the place. It's even crazier, too, because Mike and I could get vasectomies right now if we wanted to. Exactly. Exactly. And that's how we end most shows. Yeah. You're like, we reverse and give each other vasectomies.

It's just screaming at the end. Follow us on Twitter. But that's what makes me really sad. Is that like I kind of, I don't. I don't. I don't want them. Is it legal or just doctors won't do it? Doctors won't do them.

I would love, I actually would love to. I mean, I'm not disciplined enough and I don't care that much. But I would like to write like something about how like, why isn't this being talked about? That is weird. Yeah, I mean, I'm not disciplined enough and I don't care that much, but I would like to write like something about how, like, why isn't this being talked about? That is weird. Yeah,

I didn't even know that. Even if I had one kid and I say, hey, I want to get my tubes tied, they'll try to talk you out of it. Oh, you might want another one.

You know, I actually heard- What if Benny wants a friend? My mom, like, I mean, my mom had five and after the fourth one,

they're like, do you? And she's like, I don't know yet. I don't know. We'll see how this fifth one is. One more. Let's see. Yeah, she's like, I want to cry more. You know, I have heard that it is, that you? She's like, I don't know yet. We'll see how this fifth one is. One more. She's like, I want to cry more.

I have heard that you can't get a vasectomy either until you have a few. That's what I've heard. I don't know how true that is. Had a few? But I bet you. I bet you. Yeah, like three or something. But I bet you this.

I bet you you could talk a dude into it. I don't know if I could talk a doctor into it. Guy code. Come on, bro. All right, get up here. I'll snip your nuts. Yours is super easy. You go in and 10 minutes later you're going for a jog.

It must be kind of complicated because there's still semen coming out. It's just not fertile. They burn something. I wish people could see the gestures. Liz is just jiggling her hand like she has keys. Just, you know, shake it all about. My parents are veterinarians, so I know some things.

They've spayed and neutered a lot of things, so I know some things. They use their keys every time. I'm just like, are these your neutering keys or are these the house keys? Are they covered in blood and guts? They're the house keys. I just ruined my parents' business. You know, I heard the Meleys use keys. Really?

I heard the Meleys are using keys. Michael, do you use keys to spay people? Can the name of this episode be like, we use keys? Yeah, that's it. You got it. Nailed it. I can do that. I'm in charge.

I can do that. People were like, we didn't like the key episode. It was the worst one so far. I'm just going to, I'm going to change it to we have Key and Peele. That might, that might get some more

listeners. Sounds like a lady. And she sounds like a nobody. Key and Meele. A nobody lady. Key and Meele. Right? Key and Meele.

Oh, oh manipulative. You're going to get sued. Good. Hey, any press is good. Like I said, indifference or hate, which do we prefer?

Clicks. Yeah, so now let's just say racist stuff. Get the word clicks in unison twice. Clicks. Clicks. Clicks. Now we're getting followers. Okay, great.

Great. So after all this nut talk. Sadness. You got this web series. About crazy robots. About crazy robots. And I got a bone to pick with you, Liz. Oh, great. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready to defend my web series about crazy robots. About crazy robots. And I got a bone to pick with you, Liz.

Oh, great. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready to defend my web series. It took about an hour, but I got a bone to pick with you.

Oh, I wish I had stickers for you. Oh, yeah. I do want a sticker. I'll send you a sticker. It says, I had a bone to pick with Liz Mealy.

Yeah. And all I got was this lousy sticker. Join the club, all right? You got this super happy fun time cat und i'm damaged right yeah right now i i did the voice of this cat on episode four that's true and then uh i get replaced oh got replaced okay okay first one it's his you played his alter ego you played his his

like good guy for the public person and you were all japanese and shit yep and then do a really good japanese cat yeah okay and then the rest of him is like his alter ego mean guy and uh you're like somebody the most famous the most you kind of did the most famous person on my show plays you now yep yep so that's the thing i guess i'm not famous enough but who is it mazdarani. Maz Jabrani. I mean, what is he like? He's like a super big deal. Like a national headliner or something?

I mean, like he performs for princes in the Middle East. Fresh princes? Did you ever ask? They all shower before he performs for them. Did you ever ask if I performed for princes? I mean, like I read your bio. Yeah. Unlike Maz, I don't feel like I have to put it front and center.

He was actually forced for a while to be Saddam Hussein's son's body double. That's true. That's true. A lot of assassination attempts on this guy. But I guess that doesn't matter when you're playing a Japanese fighting cat. I'm sorry, buddy. Hey, no problem, Liz. He also looks different.

They all, like, did you see that I've had 14 animators? Yeah. Well, yeah. So we were friends with Grant. So yeah, you have Grant Lindahl and Ben Luce. Yeah. And now it's changed hands. And now we're besties.

So I hope they're all jealous. I hope they're listening and I hope they're jealous. Take that, fellas. So anyway, you know, um, maybe you'll have me back if these famous guys. I mean, like after this interview, I'm kind of good. Cool. Cool. Sure.

We can definitely. That's cool. Mike, what's going on with you? I got a lot of stuff going on, actually. Oh, do you? Do you need to go? Yeah, Liz and I, we're going to talk about.

What? No. I have more cats I need to record. Yeah, sorry. How's your meowing? It's okay. Okay. It's probably better than Josh's.

Whoa. Well, yeah. What? Of course. I was good enough for episode four. I just don't. Like, listen, Liz, I got now like communist China, so. Oh, yeah. I was good enough for episode four. I just don't know. Listen, Liz, I got now like

communist China, so. Oh, great. That's beautiful. It took me like 10 seconds to think of a funnier response. But you did great. Yeah. Nailed it.

You almost get one of these. Oh, yeah. Huh? Huh? I could do that for you. Take that, tank man. Your series, Liz. I feel like that's copyrighted, no?

You guys don't give a shit. I guess, yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. How can anything be copyrighted? I know, it's kind of sad. Oh, yeah, versus Josh Goderna. That's what I think the name of their case would be. Oh, you have a case named after you. Yeah, I made it. I'm official.

But Damaged is wrapping up its season of the 21st. no copyright issues with black flag on that one i believe there was an album called damaged i mean i couldn't even get like damaged.com so other people sure do feel like they're damaged um it yeah the season finale is um monday it was supposed to be like two months ago it's's been troubles. There's troubles. Those things take time. What was it like Maz late or something?

Maz is a professional. So drop it. Just drop it. This is not the place for time. I was just curious. He's in LA and he's just he has to make money. Oh, I know how that goes. My people out in LA la i'll tell you yeah

what is the deal it is so hard to find good people but it's kind of crazy though like except for one pair of animators almost all of them have been out of town so i've done all my meetings through skype and stuff and it's kind of crazy when like i mean i didn't meet ben until like months into my show really physically see him like that kind of stuff is kind of crazy where you're just hiring people out and forwarding money and things are happening and everything's emailed

and Google Docs and you're like, this is like, I'm utilizing technology. I don't even know how a light bulb works, but I am making it work. I don't know how anything works.

Even if you gave me like ancient Roman type of technology, I wouldn't be able to. I mean, I don't know how to make paper. Okay? Like I don't know how to make, I can no make or do i wouldn't even be able to make fire like i

wouldn't even be able to do like late paleolithic technology yeah it would take me a while yeah i think i could get it but i think if you do enough drugs you start to figure it out that's okay that's what all the great inventors yeah i'm just saying edison just had a hell of an ass i'm just saying i'm just saying when i get married and I get all my rocks. Uh-huh. A collection of rocks around the neck. I invented this thing. You see my callback? Do I get nothing?

I'm afraid after an hour it doesn't count. Oh, come on, man. We should have told you. My bad. She has anger issues. I want credit. Let's see that mood swing. Swing mood. swing mood mood swing mood well yeah so damage

this is actually going to come out on Monday so that's good look at that synergy branding tying stuff together that's fun so Liz thank you for joining us come back if you're around I'm super good together that's fun um so liz thank you for joining us oh thanks for having me great um good come back you know if you're around tomorrow okay yeah i'm super good if anything you're honest

yeah i'll probably never do this again so i flip a table and leave yeah okay thanks liz follow her on twitter i think or she'll kill you i shouldn't have brought up the cat. Hey, I had to. The listeners, I've been talking about this. They need to know. The dig heads, they hold me accountable. They do. So where can we find this damaged and all this stuff and all your web presence? Oh, thank you. Damagedwebseries.com

I have an old web series. It has 40 episodes. They're pretty quick. They're like 30 seconds a minute. It's called Apartment C3. So that's aptc3.com. You can see my early writing and weirdness. And then just my website is lizmealy.com. And that's where you can find me on Facebook and Twitter and all the stuff. I write jokes.

Jokes are there. Jokes. I have some jokes. Got some jokes. Got some jokes. I post lots of pictures of my cat. I always tell people don't follow me on Instagram. It's not a good idea. But everything else i write jokes yeah so i do entertain but not on instagram right instagram is literally pictures of me as a baby i love throwback thursday tbt i

mean i love it and then pictures of my cat currently uh like which is funny because i i love caturday so saturday is caturday so i always post a picture of her but i'm on the road most of the time so literally i'll post a picture of my cat my boyfriend would be like are you back and i'm like do you not get that i save my pictures for caturday i have no room on my phone super smart but then he'll be like wait are you home i'd be like dude it's caturday he's like oh my god i can't believe i date you yeah i love that argument like uh duh it's caturday dude i wore i try to i always try to wear a cat shirt i wear them all the time but i try to always wear on saturday and a friend

bought me one for my birthday and it's like cats like surfing on pizzas and and burgers because that makes sense i got like five compliments and i was like this is a problem like this is starting to become a problem right i feel at this point i should just be like cat or cat or day uh cat or day y'all know what i'm talking about right you know if we were like I should just be like, Catterday, Catterday, Catterday. Y'all know what I'm talking about, right? You know, if we were like ladies, I should be like, Catterday, Catterday. Where are my Catterday people at? Catterday. Who doesn't have friends?

Exactly. Mike, what do you want to promote? Anything? My column should be up and running pretty soon. At the whatweekly.com? I got two up right now. Okay. They're not official. Okay. But officially, I think it's going to be called You Can Relax. Nice. whatweekly.com I got two up right now. They're not official.

But officially, I think it's going to be called You Can Relax. Nice. I like that. It's a rational optimism media watchdog. I like that. And then you're still at Michael Moran 10? Yes, as of now. As of now. It may change.

If anybody has any ideas of what I should change my Twitter handle to. Crowdsource it, man. I like it. Okay, good. Headlining high tops. July 27th. Thank you. I'll be there. Oh, really? You won't. Liz,

how dare you? I'm going to be in Virginia. Does that count for anything? Nope. Not in this house. I don't recognize that state. VA? No way. Hey, guys. I've been Josh. Okay. Follow me on Twitter and

Instagram and see pictures of my dog. That's what I do. Dogger day. That's what I'm all about. Follow me. I'm at BetterRobotJosh. I have a bunch of shows coming up and stuff. DigressionSessions.com slash calendar for all of Mike and I's live dates, improv and stand-up. Yeah.

And shout out to our network that we're on now, Thunder Grunt. Thunder Grunt. Thunder Grunt. Always been a fan. Big Thunder Grunt fan? Big fan. I only like their old stuff. Yeah, before they became popular.

Yeah, like on Monday when it came to be. That's what you're talking about, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go way back. Anything past Tuesday, I just feel like a sellout. Yeah, yeah they became popular. Yeah, like on Monday when it came to be. That's what you're talking about, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go way back. It was like Tuesday. I just feel like a sellout. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Thunder Grin was the original thing.

Yeah, yeah. If you know the early stuff. Let's all make puns. We're about an hour 15 in. Let's just cut loose. Let's just do it. I got to go. Yeah, so check out ThunderGrin.com

for all of the other podcasts that are in our family, our network. And I think that's it, Mike. That's our family now. That's our family, yeah. You're my family now. Yeah. Thank you, ThunderGrun.

Innocent-looking bookstore. Oh, God, guys. I got to pee so bad. Liz, just go. Just go. I already peed in your living room. You peed in my living room. Let it ride.

Well, we're just about to start our 300 countdown segment. Yeah, let's do it. Ready? 300. Josh? 299. 298? Oh, I'm so good at this. Alright, goodbye everybody. Thank you for listening. Thank you for coming by. Bye everyone. Thank you.