The Digression Sessions - Ep. 156 - Baltimore Protests & Riots
Episode Date: May 11, 2015 Hola Digheads! Recorded on April 28th, Josh, Mike, and comedian Chris Hudson discuss the protests and riots that took place in Baltimore after Freddie Gray's tragic death. And since we're dummie...s, we also discuss going out to dinner for a while. Hope you guys enjoy and sorry for the delay in episodes! We'll be back and more regular soon! Please do the Dig Sesh a solid and subscribe to and rate us on iTunes, or Stitcher! Say hi onTwitter and Facebook. Â
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Welcome to the Digression Sessions Podcast.
Hey, everybody. I'm Josh Koderna.
And I'm Mike Moran.
And you're listening to the Digression Sessions Podcast,
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As we interview local and non-local comedians, writers, musicians, and anyone else we find creative and interesting.
Yes.
Who's the guest this week going out to dinner is great
it's just lame how people are so into it having a nice dinner having good meals there's something
maybe a little bit,
maybe like the white guilt part of me,
it like still kind of sees that as like decadent or something.
To enjoy the food you're eating?
I don't know.
There's people starving.
I realize, I know rationally that it's okay.
Of course there's people.
It's not robbing other people of food,
but just, I don't know.
There's something in me that just like still thinks that it's like sick or something.
But I think mostly it's just a normal people thing that gets to me.
It's not that.
Like people are so into it.
Because people like food.
It's good.
It's good to have good food.
It's fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's all right.
It's all right.
What are you talking about?
Going out for a nice dinner.
Next you'll be like, oh, I had to get gas.
I put gas in my car.
No, but that's necessary.
That's like part of the-
So is food.
Yeah, but not like going out for a-
I feel like people are faking it a whole lot.
We could all just eat Soylent Greens and be fine.
Yes, exactly.
I feel like people are faking their severe interest in food a lot of the time.
Go out for a nice glass of wine, a nice tiramisu.
I like a fresh squeeze.
You don't even know what tiramisu is.
I had no idea.
And I worked at a fine dining restaurant that served it at one point, too, and I still don't remember what it is.
A tiramisu.
Do you have a half chardonnay? I remember a woman asking me that once i was like the fuck are you talking about lady
what's wrong with that she was she like looked all concerned too like do you have a house chardonnay
yeah yeah nice restaurants have their own wine yeah that's what she's lame
queen of england went silverware. It's a weird...
There's something grotesque about
just human eating rituals.
Okay.
It's not the 1600s anymore.
We don't have to force this civilized...
This civil-ness on our...
There's something weird about tradition and rituals.
Should they just all be buffets?
Yes.
Fill up your pie hole,
you fuck.
Well,
no,
I mean, you can do everything in moderation,
but it's just weird.
Now there's like a glass of wine and like different forks.
Like who gives a shit?
You're doing the thing that like most people do when they hate somebody.
They do.
That person does something regularly.
Right.
It's a problem.
It's like,
Oh,
Mr. I'm breathing oxygen. Yeah, maybe. Well, right it's a problem it's like oh mr i'm breathing oxygen oh yeah maybe well maybe it is maybe it's like i feel like i'm not i don't fit into that world or something yeah that person but i don't i really don't think i want to with
garlic bread or a salad you're like jesus christ who gives a fuck it's all gonna turn into shit
i'm not saying that it's like something where it's like you know it's like uh
i hate people or or like you know like it's not i'm mostly joking but it is like kind of like
why are people just so into it like because it's like dressing up and like going out and it's nice
i don't do it all the time but it does feel nice occasionally wouldn't you rather like eat pizza
and watch simpsons though there's a time and place for everything.
Oh, my goodness.
I cannot believe this.
Look, at Amanda's birthday, I bought a sport coat, a little jacket.
We went to go eat at Roy's in Harbor East, where the good old boys of the National Guard
are protecting our rich white people currently.
Right.
And it felt good, man.
Did they have a house chardonnay?
I didn't ask. But you better believe we got some dessert. And it felt good, man. Did they have a house chardonnay? I didn't ask.
But you better believe we got some dessert.
I just don't get it.
I just don't get it.
What's there to fucking get?
It's delicious.
It's just weird how there's all these weird human traditions and rituals that are kind of saying, like, I'm better than other people or something.
No, that's you being totally insecure.
If somebody's like, yeah, me and my wife got a great steak.
You're like, what?
You think I don't want steak?
You think I can't afford steak, Donald Trump?
Is that really me?
Am I the guy that goes around hating on people that are better off than me?
I don't think that's what I'm doing.
Yes, you are.
No, I'm talking about normalcy.
Not like wealth per se.
So what if a person goes to see a movie and they get popcorn it's
a problem god let's go see a no not at all that's totally normal you can't look at a blank wall like
that's way fun well like candy and movies and stuff are awesome yeah that's how people yeah
but like using using a certain fork for your salad and like... No, it doesn't matter.
It's just the weird rituals and stuff that go along with it.
Because they got to come from like this era of...
There's no ritual.
Sure there is.
No one's sacrificing...
Swirling your big stupid glass of wine.
They don't have to do that though.
Not everybody does that.
It's not like, now we toss the house shot at A.
Before we die, this is a fountain. die i get the worst is like when people
want to like click your glass to or like toast what's wrong with toasts it's a nice communal
thing oh man somebody tried to like uh click my glass i wouldn't do it recently why it's just so weird. You sound like a depressed curmudgeon. I'm not.
No.
I love people.
Apparently, you just love candy and cookies.
You're like a nine-year-old.
I'm not saying I hate civilized traditions like that more than I hate racism or homophobia
or starvation or child abuse.
I'm just saying it's kind of annoying sometimes.
So there's a scale.
Of course.
Of course.
And going out to dinner and homophobia are on the same scale for you.
Well, maybe, but they're very far away.
They're on the spectrum.
Well, they're on the spectrum of things that I don't like.
If I told you, let's go out to a nice meal.
Right.
We like pizza.
We're going to go get a really nice pizza.
Would you have a problem with that?
No.
Let's get pizza bullies.
You too good for me now?
No.
Occasionally, I feel like it's okay.
It's just annoying how into it people are.
That they enjoy food?
I can't.
Okay, if you're like a big foodie or something,
if for some reason that's your pleasure.
I take umbrage with foodie.
Everyone's a foodie.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's annoying that like everybody's like jumping on that bandwagon and being like, oh, I'm going to join.
There are people that are annoying.
Especially like working at a fine dining place.
You see how many people are just like faking it and have no idea what they're talking about.
Yeah.
Like I would be if I were to try.
Yeah, I know.
Obviously, you don't have experience.
This bitch asked me for a house chardonnay.
What am I supposed to make a house out of?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Make a house out of it.
It's Bud Light Lime or nothing, you idiot.
No, it's just like in that particular instance it seemed like she was like trying
to be cool by like repeating something she had heard somebody else say it's very common to ask
if somebody has a house wine though it's not like she's she looked like all concerned like after she
finished the sentence like you know like it was a big deal like it's like it was like a is everything
okay it's like a face you know like do you have a house, Chardonnay?
We are fucked.
Now, that look you just gave me is, like, generally like, oh, do you?
I wouldn't mind.
What's wrong with that?
Okay, maybe I'm just resentful that I'm not a part of rich guy society.
It's not that rich.
I know, but I'm not even a part of that.
This is by choice, though.
But I have plenty of...
If I wanted to do that, I have enough money to go out and do shit like that.
I'd just rather spend it on other stuff.
It really seems like you're compensating right now.
I got money.
I'd go get two fork meals.
I'll know what you do with two forks.
I could order two tiramisu's right now, I bet.
Tiramisu's?
Yeah.
Wow.
All right.
Well, this is a good topic to discuss while our city is in upheaval.
Chris, feel free to grab the microphone.
Hey, fellas.
How's it going?
Hey.
I bet you're just boiling over with responses to that.
Well, I...
Just get it out real quick before we move on to the purge.
You know, Mike, you should lighten up and just have brunch someday. Oh, I... Just get it out real quick before we move on to the purge.
You know, Mike, you should lighten up and just have brunch someday.
Oh, God.
Just do it.
Don't even give me start on brunch.
Do you have mimosas?
Yeah.
House mimosas.
Yeah.
House champagne?
All right, listen.
We're doing this podcast in light of the riots in Baltimore.
Yes.
And how just insane it is. And
gentlemen, thoughts?
Do you have
as many thoughts about going out to dinner
as you do
the riots? Also, okay, one more
thing in defense of that. It's funnier
to point out
annoying things that annoy me
that aren't super super common you know
what I mean okay like if I
made some like tweet about
how you know drivers are
annoying or whatever like
that's that's not as funny
as right there but that's
my tweet put that in your
draft folder right now
okay riots you didn't even
make a point yeah no my point was that it's funnier to nitpick at weird, annoying things
instead of just common ones.
Sure.
All right.
Now, let's get into this.
Case closed.
Yeah, so this is Tuesday.
What is today, the 28th?
28th, yes.
Recording this the night after everything went down.
Yes.
You guys went out today to help provide for a...
Strip club, yes.
Yeah.
One strip club that got hit here in the city.
One of our favorites.
And our sponsor for the week.
The Gold Club.
No, what did you do?
It was like a food bank?
Well, we went out initially to clean up. the gold club no what did you do it was like a food bank or well we
we went out initially
to clean up
but apparently
there's so many volunteers
have shown up
for that
that we were
unneeded
and unwelcomed
yeah
but we
so
unwelcome
we just
so we decided
on the google doc
it was in all caps
it was like
we have enough volunteers
because they put out
specifically sent to you
and me
yeah it was yeah they sent it right to us yeah no emailed everyone It was like, we have enough volunteers because they put out a Google Doc. Specifically sent to you and me. Yeah, it was.
Yeah, they sent it right to us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Emailed everyone.
I was like,
don't tell.
We could use a lot of help.
No.
So we decided
to just buy
snacks and stuff.
And just eat them
in front of the people cleaning.
Yes, exactly.
Bet y'all was hungry.
It was for the kids.
Right. Yeah. It was. That's what it was until you know it was no we like donated because people are you know kind of getting like youth programs together yeah for
kids to hang out at during the school closings and things like that so yeah and you guys went
to red emma's today too right we went to red emma's and dropped off some stuff and we went to
the something temple in somewhere it was some temple that you had an address stuff and we went to the something temple in somewhere.
It was some temple that you had an address for that we went and just gave food.
You sound real committed to the cause.
Real committed to the cause.
In the age of, you know, of information, it's kind of like, where do I drop off food here?
Okay, I'll be there.
I drop off food.
You're just at the base level.
You're like, me eat food.
Me not have to go out.
Where does it go?
I just put it here.
I mean, you know, does it have to be more complicated than that?
Well, a little bit.
We just, you know.
We asked if we needed to do anything.
They're like, no, you just drop it off.
Yeah.
Although they did seriously give us a look like, we don't need you here, actually.
You think so?
Yeah.
I was wondering that for a second.
Because we were like, do you want us to come in and help?
And she was like, oh, I think we're okay.
You guys are too annoying for charity.
San says not welcome.
So, okay.
So what was going on at Red Emma's?
Because that's like a coffee house slash book house.
Book house?
Is that a word? You mean library? No, it's not a library. They book house. Book house, is that a word?
You mean library?
No, it's not a library.
They sell books.
House of books.
House of books.
House of coffee.
Here in Baltimore on North Avenue.
A book hold.
Yeah, the book hold.
They didn't get smashed by anything, right?
No, they didn't appear to be.
Their book hold got smashed pretty well.
Did it?
I think.
Yeah, I mean, actually, it seemed like there was Their bookmobile got smashed pretty well. Did it? I think. No.
Yeah, I mean, actually, it seemed like there was a lot of regulars that were there.
And then there were some kids in there, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But nobody smashed the place up.
No, I mean, it wasn't looted.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
That's what I mean.
I meant the bookmobile got smashed.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No.
Yeah.
No, not literally.
They're fine.
Yeah, okay.
As in, like, they're doing good business?
I don't think they actually sold any books today. Like, it's a Broadway play. It's a smash. Yeah, it's a smash. They're fine. As in like they're doing good business? I don't think they actually sold any books.
Like it's a Broadway play.
It's a smash.
Yeah, it's a smash.
I got you.
But in the sense that it wasn't looted though.
Oh no, it wasn't looted.
Like the way the Monster Mash was a graveyard smash.
Yeah, in the exact same way that the Monster Mash was.
It was a graveyard smash.
A graveyard smash.
Let's move on.
I want to talk about the monster mash in light of recent events let's talk about this i feel like it's pertinent to the conversation
uh so uh but red emma's was supposed to be like open to all the kids today right because school
was canceled so were there a bunch there or anything or there's a bunch of kids there
families too places packed regulars uh people helping out everybody in the back like putting
sandwiches and stuff together cool so it was you know it was heartening to see yeah so many people
yeah and it seems like now um before before you guys got here it seems like there's a big crowd
gathering at pennsylvania and fulton where like a lot of the stuff went down where the CBS was
burned down yesterday and all that stuff so it seems like there's a huge crowd gathering but
they seem like they're peaceful it's more of a like let's chill the fuck out right vibe today
yeah is that what you guys saw out in the city well yeah but I mean you know it's still early
yeah I know I know that's that's what everybody's like. Just wait for nightfall. I'm like,
well,
I hope not.
I hope that's not the case.
Yeah,
I think we all hope it's not.
Yeah.
you know.
And then also downtown,
Chris,
you were there on Pratt Street.
So like the whole night,
last night,
there are like the National Guards coming.
I was like,
when?
Yeah.
Especially when they were,
they were breaking into the mall here,
the McDalman Mall,
which is one mile away. Really? Yeah mile away and uh yeah when they were looting that and going crazy
they're like we have got reports the national guard's on their way like this started three
it's like nine o'clock how did how do they get here like helicoptered in or something i think
they were just all driving like carpooling carpool jerry did you bring your van because we gotta go
it's just national guard
trying to put it together but yeah dude it was it was fucking scary for a minute but now apparently
national guard is just in our richest parts of the city thank god harbor east and uh pratt street
which is right downtown in the the inner harbor yeah it was pretty crazy to see because i went
down there um i went down there originally because i'm actually i'm actually
liking slacks and a nice shirt because they were going to film monday night at sidebar uh-huh and
that got canceled and then i got stuck in the city because they barricaded my way to south baltimore
so then i originally went down there to go to the goodwill and get some a crappy pair of jeans
so i could start cleaning uh-huh and uh they were closed, but I saw, yeah,
a bunch of National Guard troops
basically just around, like,
the gallery and the power plant,
and then after that, just nothing.
Right.
And then Harbor East,
like, around the expensive hotels,
there were a bunch of National Guard.
Right, and the gallery's, like,
our mall downtown.
Yeah, it's basically
every tourist trap in the harbor
has National Guard.
Right, right. So the ESPN zone is
safe? Does that even exist
anymore? No, it doesn't. It's gone.
It's a Phillips now. Oh, okay.
Crabby Dicks is okay.
I think that's a...
I don't know. Is that what it's called?
It's just called Dicks.
Dicks Sporting Goods?
And yes, yes, it's okay. Okay, good.
No, all that stuff was closed.
It was just National Guards just holding rifles.
But they straight up have M16s, right?
Yeah, they all had assault rifles,
and they were basically facing the other side of the street,
which when I went down there this morning was empty.
I don't understand why there hasn't been invented weapons
that can subdue people and not be rifles.
You mean like tasers?
Yeah.
Yeah, but I mean stuff
that you can shoot at people
from far away too.
You mean like rubber bullets
or beanbags?
But do those not work or something?
Why don't they use them?
They work.
Shouldn't there be like an E-gun
or something where you can just
shoot something into somebody
and just incapacitate them
for a while or something?
Are you talking about
the stun setting on a phaser
from Star Trek? Yes, exactly. Because that's what i'm imagining right now yeah but like
it would be a tiny it would be a smart bullet all right uh-huh with like that doesn't kill you just
like pierces your skin a little bit and just like shocks you or something it tases you you're
talking about like a bb no it would be more of like a just something that sticks in your pin
your skin like a needle super taser bullet yes that shouldn't be that hard like a just something that sticks in your pen your skin like a needle super
taser bullet yes that shouldn't be that hard to make yeah no that's fair and then you just like
turn it off when you're done just shuts off it's a fair request let's see why not so you can we
really need to be like blasting bullets through people like turn off the bullet after it's in
somebody sure yeah it's gotta have an off switch. Yeah, it's a smart bullet.
It makes sense. Just pull out your phone.
You're like the laziest engineer right now.
It's got fucking Wi-Fi.
Have you seen what you can do with your phone?
That's what I want to do to people.
It has a taser on it.
Yeah, they have stuff.
They got the beanbag guns.
Yeah, they shoot little beanbags.
Yeah, I know.
I feel like there would be something better than. They shoot like hell. I know.
I feel like there would be something better than that.
You just want smart bullets?
Rubber bullets?
Taser?
I want smart bullets.
You got those tasers that shoot out?
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, like, yeah.
Like the long distance ones that hook into you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, I mean, you can't do that from really far away.
How far do you want to be?
Well, I mean, a rifle goes miles.
You want like a sniper taser gun?
Yeah.
Basically, like we need taser men on the roof.
Yeah, totally.
Like why not have like the exact same capacity as like a rifle when you shoot somebody,
except for it doesn't kill them?
I'm with you, but you're really just kind of Monday morning quarterback.
I know, but I don't think that's that.
Look, I can't just butt like a happy gun.
You shoot it with the gun, and all of a sudden you're happy.
Whatever. I'm just saying like it doesn't seem like that would be that's that bad. Look like a happy gun. You shoot it with the gun and all of a sudden you're happy. Whatever.
I'm just saying it doesn't seem like that would be that hard to do.
I mean, I wouldn't be able to do it, but I mean, come on.
My phone can do anything if I ask it to.
My phone sent me a picture of a triangle with five sides today.
Your phone sent it to you?
Your phone did.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It can do anything.
Your curved phone over yes okay
curves with the earth um so yeah so let's yeah so i this whole fucking thing is just a bummer to me
the like what led to it fucking bums me out what happened just everything sucks and and there were
there were a week a whole week of peaceful protest yeah yeah. Yeah. That, that led up to this. Yeah.
And in fact, the first night of violence during the day,
there was a lot of peaceful.
Yeah.
Past Saturday.
Yeah.
Isn't that when it kind of got violent?
Like that was when shit like really like downtown.
Well,
it was because there was,
there was also an,
an Orioles Red Sox game.
Yeah.
And there was some like activity between some of the fans and
some people who are out yeah uh late and then it just escalated from yeah yeah it's fucking crazy
man sucks yeah so like the whole yeah freddy gray like being basically just beaten up i mean
yeah they're saying oh you got injured in the van. Like, really? You're going to say he severed 80% of his spine on like a bumpy ride?
Jesus Christ.
And Amanda, my girlfriend, she's been working with a program that educates
and tries to like rehabilitate nonviolent offenders that are in jail.
So she's been teaching Spanish in the jail of these guys
wow and yeah it's a whole great program they kind of teach you how to like interview and put
together a resume for you and all this stuff and a lot of these guys have a similar story to
what he went through like apparently in baltimore it's not uncommon for cops just to like rough you
up one guy that she works one guy that she works
with um he got beat so bad almost pretty similar like his neck was broken by the cops and then they
they never officially arrested him for anything they just dropped him off at the hospital so once
he gets better he has all these bills and then he's like well fuck this the city should pay for
this the cops did it to me they're like like, oh, well, charges were never filed.
So there's no case against you.
So we're not paying for shit.
You're like, wow, what the fuck?
Yeah, no, I've seen it before.
I've seen people get like knocked to the ground and stuff.
And then, you know, they just keep moving.
They're not like charged with anything.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so, I mean, I guess that's where a lot of this is coming from.
It doesn't justify looting to me.
I hate that yeah that's always kind of a smear on like uh you know an otherwise
uh admirable yeah effort and meaningful thing it just ruins it man did you see any of that
footage yesterday like i i got home from work around like 5 30 and uh just seeing all that
stuff seeing people like run into stores was fucking scary it looked
like 28 days later where people just like pour in somewhere and they're just coming out and
whoo it's fucking crazy why is that the scary part to you because entering and exiting stores
no they're not like calmly walking he just went through the emergency exit
no they're not opening the door they're smashing the entire thing and they're all pouring into it
and stealing everything.
That's somebody's fucking shop.
They don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Yeah, it's scary.
Yeah, one of the reports
that circulated last night
was there was a guy
who had taken two TVs
who was trying to hail a cab down
and the cab driver was like,
no, I'm not taking you.
And the guy got all pissed off.
Now he's following a discrimination lawsuit.
Oh, it's because I'm black.
Is that what it is?
He's like, come on.
I got to get TV stuff.
Stop fat shaming me about these TVs.
Yeah, all the footage of people stealing stuff from the mall.
Did you see any of that?
Like guys.
I get a little depressed watching stuff like that, honestly.
I know I need to pay attention to some degree, but I don't know.
I don't really like watching real footage of people being dicks.
Oh, it was terrible.
Some guy, he had like 45 pairs of pants.
He couldn't hold all of them.
It was just like coming out.
God, it was just fucking disgusting.
Several people were selling discount cigarettes around Red M's earlier.
I don't know if you noticed that.
Yeah, I didn't notice that. We made like stolen. I assume. i assume yeah i mean you don't see that normally you know like two dollar mint
i was actually uh i was actually out last night um because uh i was trying to find uh trying to
find some beer and uh every liquor store was closed down uh charles street and this was like
when the violence was happening yeah and i was walking down charles street i didn't go past uh mount vernon park because i heard that there was like stuff on fire
so uh i uh i was walking down the street there's nobody on the street but there was one guy on the
street and he was like a homeless guy and he like he like looked at me like he was gonna ask
something and i was like is he really gonna i'm the only person there's nobody and he was like
he was like sure enough he was like hey man you got any you got any i was like dude you can't even go anywhere to get anything like everything
was closed and uh i just i it was amazing that there's still at least one person yeah well i
don't i don't think drug dealers closed last night no i think they did i didn't see anybody
really yeah there's that guy and me and then
whoever was further down the street huh yeah he's probably like i'll chance it what if it is the guy
i mean you're the one out looking for beer during a riot like i mean who's like the uh yeah i thought
at least one store would be open no he's probably thinking the same thing yeah well yeah it's like
i thought one guy with a mustache would have some drugs.
What's the deal?
Yeah, no, they were closing places, places that were like 24 hours because they were saying that's like an opportunity for people to loot and all that shit.
And so like cops had to close those because they were so spread out.
Yeah.
They're like if a 24-hour place gets robbed, it'll take us forever to fucking get there.
So you should close.
Yeah.
It'll take us at least 24 hours to get there yeah exactly yeah exactly yeah weirdly my meeting occurred and I didn't think it would so I didn't
go really you're eating yeah Oh hey hey yeah no I it took like five seconds
between me saying your meat and then like putting two together yeah I had the
I had the thing
with amanda that like all parents do like amanda's phone was off because she was she went to teach
yesterday at the jail and you can't have your phone in there and all that stuff it has to be
off and then i was really worried they're gonna go on like lockdown and then she would have to
like stay there or something stay at the jail yeah have a little camp out could have happened
a slumber party look we don't have
any yeah where else you can be but yeah shit shit's yeah shit was going down yeah i thought
they were like all right you're an inmate now no i just thought like she would stay like in an office
or something but uh but uh yeah so she didn't turn her phone on for like an hour and this is
when stuff is like going down i'm in dolman and all this stuff and like you know when she finally
answered like hey i was, you answer your phone.
You turn your phone.
I was totally like a parent.
We're like,
what are you doing?
You bring a charger with you.
She's like,
what?
No big deal.
I was like,
it is a big deal.
You get home right now.
Me and Munza were worried sick.
You are grounded,
young lady.
You have a 10 p.m. curfew
from all week.
And that's because I love you.
You'll understand one day
when you have a girlfriend of.m. curfew for all week. And that's because I love you. You'll understand one day.
When you have a girlfriend of your own.
When Stephanie Rawlings-Blake put in the curfew last night,
it was like, I was actually, I wound up at Mount Royal Tavern.
It was the only place open.
And they had carryout, so that's where I'm going to be.
Got your beer.
And when I walked in is when Stephanie Rawie rawlings blake came on the screen
and told everyone that there was like a 10 p.m curfew and it was all of everyone at the bar was
like collectively like our stepmom has just been like well you know you got to be in by 10 or yeah
it's gonna be well that's the thing our shitty stepbrothers ruined it for us you know like like
oh well danny wrecked the car so no one gets the car. Like, all right, fine, fine.
Yeah, that's going to be weird with the curfew.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think we should just ignore it for the most part.
That's like what the – pull that mic away just a little bit, by the way.
Okay.
Not that far.
Jesus, sorry, Dad.
No, you're on a curfew now.
Put the microphone down.
I'm on a microphone curfew.
When you're a big boyfew now put the microphone on a microphone when you're a big boy you can get that microphone um yeah the uh yeah the curfew is crazy oh before we started this on the news they were reading some facebook posts from some
restaurant in little italy it's like forget the curfew iffew forget about it yeah
he's openly telling them
to like protest
don't need no curfew
yeah
little oily's open
huh
here's your fucking curfew
get some gabagool
you want a cannoli
oh
yeah
I don't know
what they're gonna do
to enforce it
well you know
it's like
you don't
you don't have to follow
unjust laws
Martin Luther King said
what do you do you get a ticket for this I don't know how is it I don't have to follow unjust laws. What do you do?
You get a ticket for this?
I don't know.
How is it?
I don't get it at all.
I better not go to jail if I'm coming home from...
Yeah.
What if they use that taser gun on you?
Smart bullet.
My smart...
They tailor you up with some smart bullets.
Well, then I'd say the system works.
Oh, Mr. Curfew doesn't matter, huh?
I shoot you with your little taser gun.
Well, you know.
Wow.
What is that?
Your curfew?
That's my curfew alarm.
My sister's calling.
Uh-oh.
You in trouble?
Maybe.
What have you done, huh?
I do like how the news has hit the level where they're just reading Facebook pages now.
Yeah.
And look what happened on Facebook today.
Yeah. where they're just reading Facebook pages now. And look what happened on Facebook today.
It's funny to see.
They're showing Instagram posts and stuff about the riots.
And it's funny to see that news reporters correct their grammar.
They won't read the wrong thing.
Right.
Like, damn, this be crazy.
And they're like, wow, this is something else.
You can read it.
They're just skipping and making up their own things yeah that was gross too i could see like people taking selfies with burnt cars like burnt out
cop cars and shit it's yeah there have been a lot of protest selfies yeah a lot of protest
killing it right now yeah um but yeah so with the kids yesterday so this whole thing started um yesterday at the
mandalman mall and that was mostly because the kids got out of school and then they shut down
the mta like yeah they shut down transit and the only way they could get home so they were just
yeah so all the kids take those buses here in the city like they don't have school buses they take
city buses then they're all just there and then all the riot police are there yeah well i think
weren't they like gathering for a peaceful protest first but then they like probably but
also like you just got out of school you're all hyped up and then you see like riot police then
you have nowhere else to go we're not saying they should have attacked these guys but like
um amanda's professor said uh she was there and so the thing started like one kid throws like a
plastic bottle
at the riot police right and then they're like some throw a couple more and then one of the dudes
one of like the riot guys uh riot police like goes after a kid and kind of breaks the line and then
it just escalates from there and it's like god damn right if you just put these fucking kids on
buses it might not have escalated like that yeah and plus it's kids like they throw bottles like
empty bottles at teachers
all the time like yeah after school yeah what are you doing you're a teacher you know yeah yeah
get a little rowdy i mean kids are kids just do foolish things you know no yeah that's what i'm
saying i mean they shouldn't be fucking throwing bottles but yeah it sounds like the whole thing
could be avoided and then yeah it just seems like such a mess just from top to bottom,
like the way it was handled.
Yeah.
That shit started at, what, like 3 o'clock?
And then at 10 o'clock, they're like,
the National Guard is gassing up their collective Chrysler,
and they're going to come down Ritchie Highway,
and something will happen.
Do you want me to tell the National Guard?
Yeah.
You just wait until your National Guard gets home.
Yeah, pretty much.
Pretty much.
You know your National Guard is working very hard.
Very hard on nights and weekends.
Yeah.
You're not my real National Guard, Ted.
You're not the real army.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Yeah, dude.
I just hate the whole thing.
It just fucking bugs me.
Yeah, violence just sucks yeah i mean
especially when your city's just falling apart yeah yeah i thought after saturday i thought we
were i thought we were gonna be able to yeah just kind of keep it well yeah people were really
commending like how baltimore protesters handled it all for a while there yeah yeah and not anymore
yeah that's all gone yeah yeah but i mean it really
so far it hasn't been like that bad relatively speaking like there hasn't been deaths yet that's
the weird yeah i think two people have but i'm not sure like died really yeah i'm not sure if it's
related like i just know there's right two deaths so i'm not sure if like they were shot by a cop
or what happened there yeah i've heard that
there's two at this point on tuesday the weird part is though like with the la riots that was
like after the police were acquitted you know what i mean it wasn't like before the trial yeah
well i mean this whole thing it's like uh it's just gathering over years like like what i was
saying of just police brutality yeah you know cops killing kids and stuff like that.
So whether it's warranted or not, but that's been simmering for years.
Well, it is a violent city.
We do need a strong police force, but obviously they need to treat people like humans.
Yeah.
And also just like i think we focus on
the wrong things a lot like drug you know like drug dealers and drug addicts are like you know
a problem but it's it's not if you just focus on violent people mainly and theft like that's yeah
yeah i mean the the drug thing it's unwinnable People will get sober
When they're ready to
Not because they have jail time coming up
And drug dealers will stop
Selling when they decide
That that's not what they want to do anymore
Just a change of vocation
And if you do want to do it
Then they're going to do it
Obviously the law
When you remove the incentive that's when well it's that and it like people can get
rich off of because it's so illegal like it's uh it's pricey because it's illegal you know
yeah like nobody's like bootlegging alcohol and cigarettes and getting rich you know
yeah it hasn't worked for me sure sure no one's doing that. What's that smell?
That's my still.
Still photos.
That's what it is.
They're curing in the... That's my dark room.
Don't go in there.
Don't go in there.
That's daddy's private place.
There's no booze in there.
I'll tell you that right now.
Well, I mean,
maybe there's a few people
making money,
but it's not anything
like the drug trade.
Yeah.
Like how he just convinced you that people would be like,
well, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there are
like people selling stolen cigarettes
or, you know, moonshining and
rural places that are making a living
off of it. Moonshine.
Those moonshine farms. Yeah, there are
like out in rural areas. People make moonshine
all the time. Yeah, but you know, it's
nothing like the freaking, you know, like drug cartels.
Heroin.
Yeah.
So what are your guys' thoughts on this as we kind of wrap up this discussion here?
Can I take the physical challenge?
Sure.
And there's going to be a swimsuit competition.
Yeah.
I mean, the whole thing just fucking bums me out i think today seems to seems
to be taking a turn in the other way where people are trying to move in the other direction i would
say it is very important in a free society to be very aware of what i mean the the the police the
government line is what keeps a peaceful society together like um not allowing
people's rights to be violated is what keeps a free society moving so there has to be like a
strong law but it's also you have to keep a very close eye on the law to make sure that it doesn't
become corrupt because it almost certainly well um but on the other hand um and sometimes violence is warranted you know
like uh slave uprisings and stuff like that are totally you know warranted but it's been proven
that non-violent protest gets way better results yeah i mean i don't think you're accomplishing
anything by destroying a check cashing place well that, that's almost a whole nother, you know, yeah, like looting is just like that.
Yeah, that's just ridiculous.
That just gives the whole thing.
But, you know, as far as like violence towards the police or whatever, I think sometimes it can be justified.
Sure.
But yeah, but in this situation, it's just went way too fucking far.
Yeah. this situation it just went way too fucking far yeah and you know it's just it you know martin
luther king and gandhi and a lot of others have proved that just non-violent resistance is a great
tool especially especially now with like social media and stuff where you can get your your
messages all across the world like the you know the civil rights movement really took a turn for
the better when they realized that broadcasting pictures of uh kids and old women being attacked
by dogs and being forced to give up their seats and stuff
really captured people's emotions and hearts.
And you can do a lot of that today with technology.
Yeah, and that's the thing too.
I think it's easy for us to say,
we like to go out to dinner.
We're well-to-do.
We like several forks at our table.
In a house yard. like we're we're not
in these communities sure so it's really tough to to say from that perspective like hey don't be
doing that you know like you know i've saw like a lot of people kind of reiterating the same thing
like there's not a lot of like rec centers for for kids and you know like the schools aren't great
and you know yeah stephanie rollingslings Blake spending all that money on like the
Grand Prix and all that yeah it's like yeah yeah it's easy for us to judge
right so we should do it because it's way easy it's great it's easy for anyone
to judge especially if they're just if they're not experiencing any of it and
just kind of going off of what they
see through the media.
And what they perceive it to actually be.
Yeah, and kind of
collecting all these opinions from different
corners of the internet and the media and
kind of hodgepodging their own opinion
and then putting that out there like, this is what I
think about this. With their bias, their preloaded
bias and all that stuff. Yeah.
And I think
it's really difficult to separate the super important message of the think about their bias they're like preloaded bias and all that stuff yeah and i think like
it's it's really difficult to separate the super important message of the protests from from um all
the violence is going because everyone's going to connect those two yeah of course when um when
really a lot of the violence like has nothing to do no with the protest whatsoever yeah yeah it's
just kind of like the police are busy let's go
steal some stuff yeah well yeah then that other stuff is bubbling underneath of like you know
fuck this and then there are serious issues they're also bubbling under all the violence too
and uh and hopefully when it all settles down we can have a serious yeah and try to yeah hopefully
like it can get better but it seems like that's kind of what's happening today. Yeah.
Yeah.
It is cool to see so many people, you know, trying so hard to pick up the pieces.
Yeah.
So, you know.
Yeah.
Because that shit was scary, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, it really is.
It's like, wow, this is what it feels like to not have security, you know.
Yeah.
It's like martial law or chaos or whatever.
Yeah.
No, there were definitely times
where i thought about getting out of the city last night it was scary too like you know like
a couple friends on facebook were like right near it you know and people were like yelling at them
through their walls and stuff and like yeah yeah there's a couple in particular who everybody was
really concerned about wow yeah yeah i uh Yeah, our street, like I said,
we're like a mile from where everything
was kind of going down in Mondalman.
But luckily, yeah, it was relatively quiet
besides cop cars and everything going by.
But I definitely saw some people walking at one point.
I saw somebody sit down right by our steps.
And I was like, who is this motherfucker?
It just turned out to be a drunk girl.
But I was like, I'll kill this fucking person. It was like, who is this motherfucker to murder? It just turned out to be a drunk girl but I was like, I'll kill this fucking person.
It was scary, man.
I just catastrophize
when stuff goes like that
and I'm like,
I'm gonna sleep
with a knife next to me
and then I shake it down.
Of course,
I don't know how to do anything
if anything were to happen.
You implement
your zombie apocalypse plan.
Yeah, pretty much.
Exactly.
Watch Night of the Living Dead several times.
Yeah, that's how you learn from their mistakes.
That's how you get ready.
Yes.
Watch a couple of YouTube videos on what to do.
That type of thing.
So, yeah.
Is there a TED Talk on zombie apocalypse?
Just some guy with his fingers pressed together wearing a turtleneck.
Talk zombies.
That childlike sense of wonder have you seen uh this is probably stupid to talk about
in light of this conversation but arnold schwarzenegger's new movie where he's uh he's a
father of a girl that's becoming a zombie no is it it kind of looks good is it coming out now or
i think sometime this spring relatively soon soon. So after Terminator?
Yeah, right around the same time.
I don't know if I can handle two Arnold movies in one summer, Josh.
Yeah, and then this one looks like a real departure for the Terminator himself.
Oh, is it dramatic?
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Basically, it takes a turn that like, it's funny because it's in the Midwest,
and he's like, hey, get the Altafia.
They always do that with Arnold Schwarzenegger. They just put him in any role
and don't acknowledge that he's a bodybuilder
with an Austrian accent.
He's also like 70.
They put a flannel on him, put him in a corn face,
like, this is my farm.
I was born here.
Remember he'd be an undercover cop or something
in New York or something?
It was like Chicago.
It was called Red Heat or something like that. It like new york or something like chicago right it's called like
red heat or something like that yeah it doesn't seem like you put him in movies where that where
like the situation is that he has to get somebody out of somewhere yeah so send in the most
non-conspicuous guy we can yeah and then yeah it was in his last movie he was like border patrol in texas really i'm from amarillo but anyway it's like a dramatic one where i guess there's you know the traditional zombie outbreak
and it's it's more of like a slow so it's a classic outbreak yeah there's a there's a
widespread outbreak sure and then they're trying to quarantine everybody. It seems like it's less of a quick turn.
You get bit, and it's not like you immediately become a zombie.
His daughter's starting to turn over a week or so.
The cops try to come get his daughter,
and he's kind of like,
Oh, fuck you. This is my daughter.
It'd be kind of cooler if we died like that.
You know you're going to die a week before all the time.
You just slowly die?
Big death parties.
You slowly die or slowly become a zombie?
Well, either one.
I mean, they'd have to kill you before you become a zombie.
Unless they just have a big old hospital full of zombies
in hopes that someday they can cure it all.
Yeah.
I feel like that's right for pranks, too.
You only got a week.
And then at the end of the week, like, gotcha!
You're still alive!
Oh, my God. Convincing someone they're turning into a zombie. And then at the end of the week, like, gotcha! You're still alive! Oh, my God.
Convincing someone they're turning into a zombie.
I sold all my stuff!
What are you talking about?
I quit my job!
I mean, you could just do that now with just saying someone has a terminal illness.
Yeah, you really could.
And then you give them the gift of life.
And then you, like, make them think that you're some sort of god who cured them.
Now that's a film right there.
Starring Arnold Schwarzenegger as god doctor.
I wonder if anybody's ever done that.
That'd be like the ultimate flim flam job.
You mean it's like a doctor?
Yeah, or something like that.
Just going for a physical?
He's like, you got a week left.
And then they cure it.
They give you a problem.
They cure it.
And then you're indebted to them.
Yeah, we'll work cure it. They give you a problem. They cure it. And then you're indebted to them. Yeah.
We'll work on it.
I just think we could rip off a lot of people this way.
Would that movie just be called like chart mix up?
I'm not talking about a movie.
Okay.
I'm talking about a plan.
You're talking about the movie of your life.
You're talking about real life pranking people with death sentences.
Not so much pranking as ripping them off.
Okay.
Can we talk about what's serious that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie?
Yes, I mean, that's kind of all I got to say about that.
What do we think about the new Terminator?
Oh, the riots or the movie?
I thought, I was like, Terminator, good.
I hope so.
SkyNet is real.
It's been a long time coming.
Wait, we were talking about Terminator this entire time, right?
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
The whole thing bums me out.
The writing and us.
Yeah, yeah.
I just think that in a world where robots are dangerous,
we need to have a strong robot law enforcement system.
Yeah, and the National Guard is going to make sure
they don't get into the Terminator.
Why don't the robots just gas everybody?
Get out of the Haagen-Dazs, you fucking robot!
Yeah, so we say this before it is nightfall,
and apparently everybody's like,
wait till the night.
So I hope just nothing.
Who are these people that are telling you
to wait till the night?
They're just warning you.
It's mostly me.
I just put a hat on and I go, uh-oh.
No one's been messaging me lately.
No, I got a group text message warning of when riots are planning on breaking out.
What?
Yeah, someone sent me the drop.
Oh.
What group?
I don't know. It was weird. It was like this girl used to work with oh yeah I haven't talked to in once like sent out like a group text
about winning I I guess you got some information that's the but that's the
problem with social media though misinformation you just put anything out
there yeah yeah I was those dismissed from work today because Carol's a cunt. No, I'm just kidding.
Carol, big listener.
Yeah.
Yeah, fuck her.
She is listening.
Yeah, Security West was shut down the mall because they said that was like the next target.
Really?
And that was just on social media, basically.
So they just shut it down. They're going to turn that into a target?
Really?
Yeah.
It's a big target.
A really, really big target.
Really big one.
All right, fellas. I really big one. All right, fellas.
I smell a tweet.
All right.
That's been three white guys talking about the riots in Baltimore.
Hey, we live in freaking Baltimore.
We can say something about it.
Yeah, totally.
Hey, we're going to take a little Italy approach to this.
Yeah.
Hey, if I can.
It's the Terminator we should feel bad about judging.
Yeah.
He's getting older.
Hey, only the internet can judge us.
Sure.
Not God, but the internet.
Well, one exists.
You don't think the internet's real?
Is that what you're saying to me?
All right, fellas, let's wrap this thing up.
In conclusion, it's a bummer that it happened,
but I hope it doesn't happen again.
And then hopefully some real fucking change will happen happen um yeah i think generally what happens after writing is a
lot of white flight and um businesses moving or closing i am flying out to vegas on thursday
and not coming back and not coming back um but uh yeah but like we said there was like a huge
positive response to everything.
So hopefully that will last.
Yeah, I hope so too.
And we're going to set up some benefit shows and stuff.
Yeah, comedy shows.
Just got to find the right organization to donate to and all that stuff.
We're going to try to get some positive vibes going.
Them vibes.
Them vibes.
Some vibes.
All right.
Well, thank you guys.
Thanks, everybody.
Thank you for listening.
And yeah, we have regular episodes up at thedegressionsessions.com.
It's such a weird thing to plug at the end.
Yeah, yeah.
If we could talk about something serious.
We have stupid bullshit off, too.
So don't you worry.
That's not going to stop anytime soon.
If you want to see pictures of my dick, go to Instagram and look up Josh Kaderna.
But yeah, thank you to everybody that listens.
And we hope you continue to do that and tell other people about it.
And tell them to listen to it as well.
Please.
What was our thing?
Because if you like it.
If you like something, tell someone.
Yeah, tell somebody, I think.
If you like somebody, tell somebody.
Cool.
Chris,
anything to plug?
What is this?
When is this going to come out?
I don't know.
Some sometime this week.
Okay,
cool.
May 7th.
Another everything will be okay at the crown.
That's your monthly show here in Baltimore.
True.
Good show.
Fun show.
Good show.
You guys have both been on it.
We're just waiting with either a true or false answer.
Yeah.
False.
I treat everything like a lie detector.
Well, most things.
True.
You know?
Yeah.
That's true.
Sounds like my wife.
Oh.
I don't know what that means.
Yeah.
Got Jamel Johnson.
He's been on the podcast, right?
Uh-huh.
Going to be closing out.
Good.
He's a very funny gentleman.
Like Mike mentioned, we're trying to put together a big, big benefit show.
Don't oversell it quite yet.
Well, okay, fine. A mid-sized benefit show.
Well, a benefit show. I mean, hopefully we'll get a lot of people.
But yeah, we're just trying to put something together to benefit whoever's been affected by the riots.
We're going to figure it out.
Food bank or something like that, maybe?
Yeah, probably out food bank or something like that maybe or yeah probably a
food bank there
are a few
businesses that
have already
said that they
might need some
help so
okay
well cool
we'll keep you
guys posted
that's good
I don't know
what to say
like I mean
it's all so
like theoretical
yeah sure
sounds good
sounds good
no we'll keep
yeah Disney said
that they could
they could use
a few dollars so we'll probably toss in Yeah, Disney said that they could use the $2,
so we'll probably toss it in.
Yeah, they only have a world and a land.
Disney's really struggling right now.
Let's try to get them an ocean.
They got to spread their wings a little bit.
Spread the ocean.
All right, guys.
All right.
We love you.
Thanks, everybody.
Stay safe.
Love you.
Bye-bye.
Bye. Thank you. you