The Digression Sessions - Ep. 160 - Seaton Smith! (@SeatonSmith)

Episode Date: June 29, 2015

Hold Digheads! This week Josh & Mike sit down in the green room of Magooby's comedy club for a convo with comedian and actor, Seaton Smith! Seaton was a staple of Josh & Mike's local comedy scene before he moved to New York a few years ago. Since moving to New York, he's been blowing up. He was on Mulaney on Fox and will be recording his album for Comedy Central soon. Great stories on this about progressing through comedy, Dave Chapelle, Martin Short, and why actors aren't crazy. Like the damn Dig Sesh page on Facebook! Other social media ish - Josh Kuderna - @JoshKuderna on Twitter & Instagram Mike Moran - @MikeMoranWould on Twitter Dig Sesh - @DigSeshPod on Twitter For live stand up & improv dates - DigressionSessions.com/calendar   

Welcome to the Digression Sessions Podcast. Hey, everybody. I'm Josh Koderna. And I'm Mike Moran. And you're listening to the Digression Sessions Podcast, a Baltimore-based comedy talk show hosted by two young, handsome stand-up comedians slash improvisers. Join us every week as we journey through the world of comedy and the bizarreness of existence as we interview local and non-local comedians, writers, musicians, and anyone else we find creative and interesting. Yes. Oh, yeah.

Who's the guest this week? Seton Smith is the guest on this week's program. else we find creative and interesting. Yes. Who's the guest this week? Seton Smith is the guest on this week's program. Comedian, actor, all around nice dude. Television star. Yeah. He was on Mulaney. Rest in peace, Mulaney. The John Mulaney show on Fox.

The television show. One season and done, but still pretty huge for Seton, who is one of the DMV's own. Started in the D.C. area. Ah. Yeah, D.C., Maryland, Virginia. Oh, okay. Yeah, you got it.

Yeah, okay. I thought you meant he worked at the... Yeah. Yeah, he's one of our own. I work there, too. And he's a comedian. And yeah, follow him on Twitter. He's at Seaton Smith.

He's touring all around. And we interviewed him last week when he was at Seton Smith. He's touring all around and we interviewed him last week when he was at Magoobies in between shows. We were in the green room and asked him

to be on the show like four years ago before he moved to New York and he was like, yeah, I'll do it. And four years later,

it came to fruition. So it works. And I thought he was really cool, man. Yeah, yeah. It was nice. I didn't, yeah, I didn't yeah I never I'd seen him do shows

locally but he left before I started doing stand up so I wasn't around him that much but I know he started with our friend

Doug Powell and all those guys yeah I did a few shows with him back in the day he was always really helpful really friendly when I was like brand brand new

yeah like he helped Jason Weems with his DVD I think he edited his DVD I think he edited really for him oh wow mm-hmm but yeah I mean to go from performing at the same shitholes we do to being on TV I know it's awesome and then you know telling stories from sitting across from Martin short at a table read for a primetime show on Fox. It fills me with jealous rage.

What did you think sitting in there interviewing him? What do you mean? To me, it was just, I don't know. It was inspiring, yet kind of what you're saying. Like intimidating? Yeah, intimidating, yeah, because you're like, oh my God, there's such a chasm between where you are and where I am. But I didn't feel jealous, but it was inspiring that he got that far yeah like Christ man that's that I mean it's pretty insane how

quick that went as far as going from New York to getting on getting on shows and he's always really talented right so yeah yeah no um I don't know I don't I don't feel so much... I just feel happy that he's made it. Yeah. And yeah, I am like, well, you know, like, well, I want to do that. Can I do that? What if I can't do that? Can I do that? Excuse me, can I do that? You just tap in for him.

But I don't know. I'm just really... I'm still, like, so grateful to just be doing this with my life that... I don't know. I'm just kind of, you know, just happy to be doing this with my life that i don't know i'm just kind of you know just just happy to be doing what i'm doing right yeah but yeah and that's the thing too is talking about the levels that you reach and kind of the the first few years of what stand-up is you know you're just barely like you're just trying to be funny yeah and then he's talking about the kind of the next levels are like all right well now i'm trying to be funny, but I want to portray who I am. And like,

from my point of view and then beyond that, like, what are you actually saying? And everything ties in together and telling stories of having to follow Dave Chappelle at the comedy cellar in New York. You're like, God damn. That's like,

that's like, that's insane. That is, that's like, that's the big leagues right there. The Comedy Cellar is one of the meccas of comedy for sure. Tons of people go there because people like Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock drop in. And then you're like, holy shit, it's Dave Chappelle.

And you're like, holy shit, I have to follow Dave Chappelle. It's great that people like Seton have the attitude of like always learning like never having it all down you know because like so many artists like kind of figure well this works i'm just going to do this for the rest of my career right and just kind of don't grow you know yeah and that was a cool thing too where he he kind of said he's like yeah 2014 was just terrible for me and then uh reviewers just ripped him to shit. And he was like, oh, thank you. That's what I do wrong.

That's the best attitude to have. Yeah. You know, just being like, oh, fuck you. I'm better than this. Like learning from it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or just being hurt by it. Like, why did they say that?

Right. Where you can actually take something from it and learn and then be better on the other side of it. Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, this was a cool episode. It's a little bit shorter than an hour because we ran out of time with him. It was a really cool conversation.

Check out his stuff. I'm not sure what he's up to next. I don't know if he even knows what he's doing as far as acting and stuff. I think he's just touring a lot, doing a lot of stand-up. He's going to put out an album soon. So follow him on Twitter, see what he's up to.

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And then it's the 5-year anniversary. He just drops it. Jesus Christ. Sometimes I'm worried you're too professional. I just had to scramble over to his phone because he doesn't know where his face is. I need to take a crack at it. He's very professional. But this Wednesday, July 1st, Chuckle Storm at the Auto Bar in Baltimore, 8 p.m.

Five Bones, five-year anniversary. We got a hell of a show. I had some blood capsules and confetti arrive at my house today for that show. Really? Yeah. I'm an adult. Things are happening. I know.

Things are happening. So come out to that. Again, I'm full of jealous rage. Yeah. And then on the third, we will both be doing a show called The Mashup, and that's going to be at the Mercury Theater in Baltimore on Charles Street, 8 p.m. We've got three stand-up comedians, three improv troops. I'm going to be in two of them.

And we'll be improvising off of the stand-up of some D.C. comedians, including Ahmed Vallejos, Jason Nunez, and Natalie McGill. Our own Mike Moran will be hosting, so come out to that. And, yeah, that's all I've got on my end for this week. Let's see. The Mashup Show on the 3rd. I'll be doing stand-up with a single carriage. Theater in Remington on the

10th of July at 8pm. We'll be doing a pre-Wyatt Zanac show upstairs at the Auto Bar on the 11th. I guess that'll start at like 8. And then... That's pretty much it Alright

Oh and I wanted to plug This short little sketch I was in called Munza Directed by our Good buddy Mike Fonazzo That's on our Facebook page so go check that out Or it's on YouTube look for Munza And yeah now let's get into the episode with old

Seaton old young Seaton huh? wanna do it? let's do it Seaton's in it what? yeah thanks for

doing this man no problem man I asked you a long time ago Yeah, thanks for doing this, man. No problem, man. I asked you a long time ago, I think, and then you went to New York. I saw you at High Tops a while ago. I wasn't doing stand-up yet. I think, Mike, you were doing stand-up. Was I on that show? Probably.

I think I was. But it was just a show at High Tops. You asked me to do the podcast? Yeah, and you're like, yeah, dude, I'm going up to New York in a couple weeks. But yeah. So 2011? Yeah. 2011 you asked me? Wow. Yeah so yeah i'm timing to make it yeah my opinion about podcasts have changed so much since i uh really you were cool you're like yeah man i'll do

i was i was very cool back then i ain't cool no more like you gotta catch me on the way to something i'm doing i really yeah but fuck about pockets it's a a shame because, I don't know, there was one time, there was one dude in New York that's been asking me for months, and I was like, all right, I'll do it.

For months? For months. Just like, email, email, and I'll ignore it, and they'll email again, and I'll ignore it,

email again. And I was like, all right, fine, fine. I was like, fuck it. You see,

if this is it, I'll do it. And then he was like, all right, come meet me at dot, dot, dot. But I'm in Brooklyn,

and he was somewhere north, fucking up above Harlem. And that take me like 45 minutes to get there yeah 45 minutes to get back to do your fucking i'm like you want me to give you three hours of my life for a podcast of 23 people man be entertaining and shit yeah i can't do that yo i'm sorry i can't what's up 23 people though there you go yeah i know that's almost a big show i've been having some dead shows i probably could have used those 23 people people though there you go yeah i know that's almost a big show over there really right now i've been having some dead shows i probably could have used those 23 people right right right but yeah man it was just uh yeah it was so cool to see you uh even just seeing you like i went to

the new york uh comedy festival i think later that year i think and uh we went to the hannibal burroughs show and then you were hosting and mike lawrence was the feature, and I was like, look at Seaton. This shit's blowing up. Yeah, fucking Hannibal's awesome. Hannibal was the first dude to help me in the city. Really? He hosted the show a lot. Yeah.

Bringing it around. Now, he's a fucking marvel. It was so cool. Yeah, it was just so cool to see you there, and I was like, wow, Seaton did it. And then he was on Millennium. I was like, oh, now he really did it. Yeah, no. Just being on a show with Hannibal, I was like damn no no i feel you know when i opened up for bill burr

i felt like i had made it for a second you open for bill burr uh for his last fashion not the last last one but the one in 2012 he did in dc shot at warner theater oh yeah yeah uh you people are all the same yeah that shit was perfect when he but his next his last one oh this new one is so fucking amazing the The helicopter bit. Oh, it's, yeah, it's insane. After that special came out, like he did another hour in Burbank, like a month after he already came with that special, and that hour was fucking like, that dude is a fucking machine.

Yeah, I hear he has basically like two hours at once, like one that he's like going to shoot and then one in his back pocket that he's kind of shaping up for the next one already like just his yeah that's crazy man with a system yeah oh it's awesome that'd be a nice life to live like do that for like i don't know how many albums i would do that for like the two-year thing like try to because i think i like the way he does it where he has like doesn't do the one year he's like i think he like kind of shapes it up over a year he's like all right this is my hour and then he does it where he has like doesn't do the one year. He's like I think he like kind of shapes it up over a year. He's like all right this is my hour and then he'll spend one more year like refining it. You know what I mean.

I like that. I like that technique a lot. Taking a year to really two years per special to me is a minimum pace. Before then it's like not I don't know. You don't have enough life. What do you think about the year thing? I don't like it. I mean I know the marketplace is to the point where people want to hear...

Content. To the point where... Yeah, it's just drivel at that point. And I'm like, I think if I don't have to do it, I won't do it. I don't want to be led by money like that. I'm dirtier than I need to be. Because I want to be able to be a little broker but be happy as opposed to trying to appeal. I've tried to appeal.

I've spent 10 years doing that, and it wasn't very fun. I remember years ago when you were local, I asked you how often you come up with new material. You said about every two weeks or so you have a new bit. I said I can do that. Yeah, every two weeks. I could handle that pace. It's a great pace. That pace has changed for me now because I've been learning how to make a whole hour.

I used to just make a bunch of jokes. Now I'm trying to make an hour of a collection, and that has slowed down my writing. But now that I know how to do that, now the writing. Just about the two-week thing is coming back again. About every week and a half, I'm sitting there thinking,

I haven't thought of a new joke ever. I'm fucking horrendic. It's all over now. Two days later, something. It's not so bad. It's not so bad. Maybe I don't suck anymore. Maybe this isn't it. Maybe it's not over. I'm going to put off suicide for one more week and a half.

It is weird how with stand-up you go from just hating yourself and you're the worst ever to feeling like a god. And it never ends. I've noticed. I've been around famous people now. I notice it just never There's never a moment where you think I've figured out. And even if you feel like you have figured out, I find that's when people fail. Right.

Right. Yeah. I hosted for Greer Barnes when he was here. Oh, my God. Yeah. And he's just a killer. And it was weird to hear him be like, ah, that show was shit. But me watching, like, oh, my God.

He thinks his funny peak was about 15 years ago. That's by his words. Right. And you go like, how are you funny? You know what you are right now, nigga? Like, he's the only comic universally in the city that everybody will just go, oh, Grizzlon, let me just watch. Just to be, just to smile.

Just to watch him do that Obama bit of swimming in the water. Or his ping pong bit. Oh, the ping pong bit is amazing. Ping pong bit is one of the, it's juice on your ears. It feels good. It's a massaging of your eyes. He's just a brilliant man. Yeah.

So when did you decide to move to New York? Like what was the impetus for that? Andy Haynes had a TV late night set before me and that pissed me off. There you go, that's good Yeah, it really was that Andy and I started in D.C. And then he left and got on TV before me I was like, well, fuck

I gotta get on TV So I was like That's really the only reason So just resentment and jealousy Yeah That's the way to get to the top Andy, stop fucking being successful, niggas Yeah, how long were successful, niggas.

Yeah, how long were you in D.C. before you decided to permanently go up there? Seven and a half years. Wow. I stayed here probably two years too long. I had this plan. I wanted to shoot a bunch of stuff. Well, Baltimore's good for that. Yeah, I'm friends with Doug Powell, and it was cool to see some sketches you guys shot. I think it was like you, Doug Powell, and Rory shooting stuff. Yeah, to see some of the sketches I've shot and to be interested to see like some sketches you guys shot a while it's like I think it's like you Doug Powell and Rory yeah I was to see some of the

sketches I've shot and to be interesting like a couple of us are on network TV or some of us are writing and it's like yeah it's kind of a cool yeah satisfying thing to be like oh we weren't crazy yeah yeah so yeah like because I go down to DC a lot now and yeah the way people talk about like Rory and you, it's like that whole class. I don't know. It's really cool to see everybody kind of doing their thing out there.

No, it's good. I hear about these conversations. I'm curious what's in them, but yeah. I remember when I was starting, I guess all our heroes were, I mean, you hear about Chappelle and Louis Black and Pat Nozzle, but they were so far removed. They weren't really our direct heroes. Right. So you just see random people like Tony Woods around.

So that was my hero. Yeah, he's still hanging around. Yeah. I mean, he's still, he traveled. He's an enigma. Like, I thought he lived in D.C., and that's not exactly what's going on. No. He doesn't really exactly have a home.

He travels. It's hard to understand there are different layers of fame and success in this business sure and his success is real solid it's hard to explain but like you know yeah he's not a Hollywood dude but right that fucking world market is deep it's just so much money in this world he's international he's an international comic that's why we all know that oh yeah he's like it does Edinburgh every year he fucking London loves him they get underneath and blow him nice well he's an expat, yeah, I know. He's like, he does Edinburgh every year. He fucking, London loves him. They get on their knees and blow him. No, he's an expat. He does Asia.

He's done Africa. He's done all sorts. So he's like secretly world famous, but yet he'll do the Topaz Hotel now and again in D.C. He is, I don't know. He's still my big hero to me because he's an artist. He's the most artistic of art. So funny, too.

And your goal as a stand up to be really is to be present and fully know yourself and really be a great storytelling great writer he can do everything on stage and bring you someplace

and it's not gotten worse it's just to me he's on like Greer Barnes level everybody in New York respects him he's like fucking

Patrice Donner respects him it's like he hasn't figured out how to be world famous but he is respected that's all I'm trying to explain and that surprised me to find that out like oh this nigga's really I mean, it's like he hasn't figured out how to be world famous, but he is respected. Right. That's all I'm trying to explain.

And that surprised me to find that out. Like, oh, this nigga's really – like, I'm doing my cellar spot. This is how big he is. Okay. Yeah, I was doing a spot at the cellar, and Chappelle bumped me. And then I got out to go on after Chappelle. Wow. And him and Tony and Chappelle are talking.

And then I get off stage, and, you know, Tony moves Chappelle out of the way to talk to me. Like, nigga. And he's like – he's – I don't know. He's the nude. Tony's the dude. All right. So anyways, keep going., he's, I don't know. He's the nude. Tony's the dude. All right. So anyways, keep going. Sorry.

No, what was that moment like where you're like. Oh, that's one of the best stories of my life, actually. Actually, I'm probably going to take this to stage one day. Yeah. I was telling my friend Doug about this last night, actually. Here's a story. Yeah. I was passed to the cellar.

This is the week of, what's his name? Dave Chappelle was doing like Radio City Music Hall he was doing like five shows yeah yeah he had like Most Def opening and stuff like that yeah

I don't know if Most made it no Most I think he was deported by then deported he was deported oh yo Most Def supported no

like permanently I don't know the situation it was fucking weird because like you know he's doing all the protest videos in Guantanamo Bay

I don't know if that's directly related but he's in South Africa protest videos in Guantanamo Bay I don't know if that's directly related but he's in South Africa right now dealing with America anyways so this is all on the internet

I'm not even gossiping this is just all like interviews he's put on picture most deaf listening to this like man why didn't Satan say that kick that motherfuckers ass

he's a big fan of the podcast yeah I can tell so anyways best story well not best but decent story okay so it's he comes and it's the week before Chappelle's working on Spots right I'm at the cellar He's a big fan of the podcast. Yeah. I can tell. So anyway, best story of my life. Well, not best, but decent story.

Okay, so he comes, and it's the week before Chappelle's working on Spots, right? Right. I'm at the cellar. I do Tuesday. He bumps me. He just does 90 minutes. And I'm like, whatever. That's nice.

I get to see. Genius. I actually asked him a question before I got on stage, and he gave me some advice. And he's really, I'm sorry to get distracted from the story, but you know you ever meet people and you go, oh, you're significantly smarter than me. Yeah. That doesn't happen all the time. All the time. In my life.

I'm neurotic. I mean, I'm, what's the word? I'm narcissistic that way, but like. Right. What's his name? Chappelle, Wyatt Snack. Those two people immediately, I was like, oh, oh, I don't think I'm as smart as y'all. I'm not on your level.

You're something different. No, fucking Chappelle's awesome. So Chris Rock, I feel like I'm on par with him. But like, because Chris Rock tells you how funny he is. I'll tell you how smart he is. Chappelle hides it. That makes him nervous. You know what I mean?

He hides that shit where he's like, you really like, oh, funny, funny Chappelle. Chappelle only throw out some little smart like, da, da, da, da. What the fuck? Anyways, anyways. He bumps me. Thursday comes around.

He bumps me again. And I'm thinking, okay, well, I'm just going to get super high and watch him because he has a wonderful rhythm to him. I just want to watch the rhythm, right? 45 minutes into a set, he goes, all right, I'm done. Fuck it. And I'm like, oh, God. What do you mean you're done?

And so I'm panicking. I'm having a panic attack and I'm high. And so it's like, I can't be high on stage. I've never been high on stage up until that point. And then it's the cellar, too. It's the best club in the city, best club in the country by far. Yes. By far.

I've done all the others. And that's not a place you fuck around either. No, no, no. That's the only club I've seen where motherfuckers, no matter how famous you are, they're not fucking around

because they don't want to embarrass themselves around other people. That's the first, that's the place that learned, taught me how to make tight sets because I know now- You have to be bulletproof.

Yeah, yeah. Don't bring no bullshit. You won't come back. Like Artie Foucault actually told me, I was like, do people work on jokes here? He's like, yes, but I never see them again. It's been done. It's been done, but not again, not twice. So I was like, oh, okay.

So, okay, so anyways, I'm freaking out. I'm going to be fucking banned from this club now. And I'm high, and I'm sitting there, and I'm pacing the hallway. And I've been reading The Power of Now because I've been doing it. I did like six episodes of sitcom. And this is a side note story, but Hollywood, you know how Hollywood people talk very crazy and spiritual? It's not because they're doing it for fun. It's literally because Hollywood literally fucks with your mind only.

And the only way to really hold on to it is you have to read a lot of spiritual books in order to have mind control so your brain and fears don't take you over. That's a fact. Live in the moment to survive. You gotta live in the moment to survive. So Madonna had a point.

I'm getting distracted from the story, but if you think about it, the job of an actor is to take somebody else's words, wear somebody else's clothes, stand where somebody tells you, and just fucking do what I tell you. And you just hope

that I do it well enough for you. But then that person who's telling you what to do is thinking about a hundred other things by thinking about their own job. So we're all self-involved, worried about our job

and need to improve other people but they're too busy to tell each other where it goes. So you're just going crazy. So you need spirituality. So here's the point of the story. I'm high as fuck. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to bomb.

And then I'm not good enough to follow Dave Chappelle. And then I don't know. I had the moment where I was like, wait a minute. When am I going to decide to be good enough? When am I going to decide that I'm funny enough? And at that point, I was like, well, fuck it. I'm going to decide right now I'm funny enough to follow this dude. And so I got on stage. And I was really high fuck it I'm gonna decide right now I'm funny enough to follow this dude yeah so I got on stage and I and I was really

high and I don't again I don't remember when I'm that high I can't hear laughter all I hear I see faces and I mean I'm going from moment to moment so I was worried about the details and I said not like the big laughs think about like that little laugh get that little laugh and hopefully it'll be something right I don't remember what happened I get off stage I'm like I wonder if that was good or not Tony is like telling me you killed it. I'm like, I wonder if that was good or not. Tony is like telling me, you killed nigga. And I'm thinking, he's probably being nice

because he's like a mentor to me. Fast forward a year later, I'm in Edmonton, Canada headlining a show and this couple comes up to me and they're like, hey, we saw you follow Chappelle. And I was like,

oh my God, how'd I do? Yeah, was I good? We're here now. We loved you. And then we got lucky enough to see you like three days later in another show. So we fucking love you.

We're so happy you're here. I was like, oh, shit. So maybe that shit worked. Wow. That's a long ass story. I apologize. But it was. No, no, no.

I mean, that's what. Yeah, that's what podcasts are for. Yeah, that's great. Can you wrap up the story about Dave Chappelle? Yeah. I could hear that all day, man. No, it was great. It was one of the.

Dave Chappelle was awesome. Yeah. He gave me advice and he gave me that. And it's just like, yeah, he's really helped me in life. He gave me advice and he gave me that and it's just like, yeah, he's really helped me in life. He's awesome. What did he say advice-wise? It's so heady. It's hard to explain,

but I wasn't funny for the 2014. I just stopped being funny. So. I want to circle back to that. Yeah, so I was trying to like really understand stand-up a little bit bigger than what it is.

It's more than just joke to joke. Like you watch Patrice O'Neal. It wasn't just joke to joke. It was like, felt like an essay form, like a very complicated speech layered. So I went to Chappelle. I was like, do you think comedy is like essays

or maybe even like ministries, like sermons? And he took three seconds to answer this, and he was like, I think it's more lyrical. I consider comedy more lyrical. And then he walked on stage. Because he'd get called to stage. He's that fucking smart. I've heard stories about that. He'll be mid-conversation just riffing like oh i should

go on stage now and like most people are pacing like you're saying you got to get in the head zone he's just moment to moment yeah oh now i'm doing this yeah and then the lyrical thing made sense because i realized when he's on stage it's all in a rhythm like he talks into a rhythm like like it's like everybody has like a rhythm like that and and even when he drops his cigarette he picked it up at a rhythm and I realized, oh, comedy is more closer to music than it is to any kind of speeches it's a rhythm

I made a link, can I be nerdy for a second? there is this Dodge Ram commercial this thing cleared it up for me, the Dodge Ram commercial came out a few years ago for the Super Bowl it was a guy who was talking about how awesome the farmer is. Oh, yeah. Remember that Die Dream commercial?

America. He's like, who wakes up in the middle of the morning? No, no, no, no, no, no. The farmer. Who? Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. The farmer. He kept coming back to you.

The farmer. And he kept going, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And the farmer. And then I realized that was a chorus, the farmer. And the rest of it was just lyrics. Right. And then I made that link to, what's his name? Chris Rock said that, that I'm the hip-hop comedian. And I really understood, like, oh, that's what he means. Like, there's chorus and there's lyrics. There's chorus and was just lyrics. And then I made that link to, what's his name, Chris Rock said that, that I'm the hip hop comedian.

And I really understood, oh that's what he means. Like there's chorus and there's lyrics, there's chorus and there's lyrics. And there's rhythm, there's back and forth. And the rhythm isn't just some rhythm you decide, it's something you have to find with the audience, it's a mutual thing. But whatever, la la la, made me a lot funnier

just talking to these mother fuckers. No dude, I don't think that's nerdy at all. I think that's, I mean that's huge. Cause because yeah so much like i i think it was chapelle that said um like one of the more important things is to be interesting on stage like you have to be the audience has to be interested exactly because he's like look i've done three and a half hour shows and it hasn't been funny the whole time but no one left you know and that's because people are interested because of that type of thing like he's fun to watch yeah no it's it's once you learn because the goal your first 10 years is how to be funny then after that it's like well what is interesting to talk

about because if i'll talk if i find something interesting to talk about i'll just make that funny and that'll be the thing that sticks right and then i don't know right now i'm in the middle ground where i have funny things and i know they were about something deep because here's are y'all all comics i'm sorry no you are but i'm sorry are y'all yeah yeah yeah so you know it's when they tell you in comedy they're like hey man you gotta uh edit all your shit out like make it as short as possible get to the funniest quickly as possible yeah um that fucked my head up because then it's just a joke as opposed to you i don't know this the setup is really what makes jokes interesting it's not the punchline the punchline just ends it it's the setups that are like like where are you leading me to where are we going oh i didn't see that coming

and that's what it makes a joke go i didn't see that coming and like but then like when you edit it it's like you're cutting back the leading the line now you're just going to oh okay that came out of nowhere as opposed i didn't see that coming that's why you laugh deeper when you hear like a story from the moth because you didn't because you're just getting into the story and then oh laughter oh okay back to the story i don't know right right like the personality of of that person is in the setup because you're like oh this is how they think exactly and then the punchline like you said that's the funny part yeah so would you say used to write starting with a funny premise, but now you start with something that's interesting to you

and then find the funny in that? There's a hybrid. There's no one way. Sometimes I'll find things that are super funny, and I want to just explore that. Why is that funny? Because even the why of that funny is sometimes more funny. I mean, somebody's being fucked with.

And why is that person not liking this? you're gonna analyze that so or you find something interesting you just keep talking about it and because you feel it you'll find eventually find something funny if you read that george carlin book he has kind of a book on that uh when he made his second change not the first one but like when he changed into the 70s Carlin. Okay. He, I guess it was the first change, sorry. He was just working on, he was telling a story about how he got fired from a club. And from that, he discovered the seven words you can't say on television, which is the most famous bit. But it came from him just sharing his experience about life. And then something came out of it.

Right. And then I go, oh, that's art. Art's just a sharing experience. That's all art is. It's just sharing the human experience. It's not about how clever you are. It's not about that. It's just like,

I want to see a painting of a breakup, of a fight. Oh, that's his experience of a breakup. That's how he sees breakup. Right. That's art. Yeah. Or when a dancer imitates

watching somebody fast forwarding on a tape. Oh, they're just showing their experience of watching somebody. Right. Whatever. Ask me a question i'm talking to you no man i love this i think this is great yeah great episode so far um yeah do you think that being um more specific to yourself then makes it more um not available to the audience but

more interesting to the more relatable in a way yeah but that's like a very like that's the end of the equation like you're like you're looking at the end of the equation and trying to understand why it worked as opposed to the process the process is like yeah it's different it's like how do i say this um oh you want to go oh yeah shit show starting but you're i got like i got like 15 or 20 minutes right um host host is doing 10, 40. Good point. Have a good set out there, man. Daylon Morrison's featuring.

Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how to word this. I guess details, whatever the funny is at, that's the thing. Wherever just, this is the approach I've discovered. I used to think like I need to find something deeper around my jokes in order to make it work. And that's not how you should approach comedy. Comedy should be like, where else can I make fun of stuff? That's it.

Just go like, all right, I'm making fun of a tree. All right, let me ask more. What else has that tree done? Has that tree been in another park? Let's make fun of that park that tree is in. Who sits in that tree? I'm going to make fun of people who sit on this tree. How tall is this tree?

I'm going to make fun of how tall trees are. Like, you just keep making, it's not, it's like, you? I'm going to make fun of how tall trees are. You just keep making it. It's like you're looking for funny. You're not looking to be deep. And then once you're normally trying to find funny, you'll find something deep. But again, don't let go of that. Right. Now, like you said, you weren't funny in 2014.

Is that because you came to that precipice of the next level of comedy of what you're talking about? Like you're in New York. Oh, yeah. Doug Powell told me this best. Doug was like, whenever you're trying to be funnier, you forget how funny you are. Yeah. So, no, I was in LA for a year and I couldn't get into this rhythm of like,

I had a system in DC and then in New York because there's so many rooms, I had a system of developing. But in LA, they're not a write joke city. They're a showcase, get on TV city. And that's two different mind states. I wasn't in that mindset at all. I was already on TV.

So I just wanted to work on stuff. But I wasn't famous enough to really fuck around. So I still had to make impressions. But I knew my act wasn't working anymore for me. It just stopped working. Because I came from an angry place before. And I realized that wasn't exactly me and uh wait can you hear me what's up yeah i was just checking the levels you're good

oh yeah i wasn't exactly me being angry so i had to figure out what i was and not to say that i'm like the most different person ever in the world but i'm weird and so there's no real frame of reference for weird okay you know i mean everybody like like i feel sorry for people like peewee herman what the fuck was his reference point like what what was he he wasn't going like i'm gonna be johnny carson except different no he's gonna be like he has to look in the mirror and go what the fuck is this right can this be funny and i don't know i'm not i'm not peewee herman different but i'm i'm not like i thought i was an oreo i thought it was a dude a black dude who acted white i thought i was that simple

i'm not that I'm not that. I'm not that. I know what those are. That's not me. I'm definitely not hood. I don't know what I am. And that fucked me up for 2014. I was like, I don't know what the fuck I am.

I felt like Mulaney had a better grip on who the fuck I was. He just made me a weird Negro on TV. And I like that. I like being weird. It's kind of fun being weird. He showed me kind of what I was in my act more. He showed me more of my fun, playful, like how when I smile, people just are happier. I was like, oh, well, I'll just be happier.

Based on what was provided in the scripts, you mean? Like scripts, like laughs I was getting, like when we work on stuff, they were like, why don't you try it more this way? And he wouldn't tell me. Obviously, it was for the goal of the show. Right. Yeah. But if people are laughing at you you they're laughing at the show so he likes yeah

you want to know like what attitude should I continue to make more laughs and because the last suit or your audience yeah sure playing around more go away you like when I do this what if I try it more this way and right so you're learning like is this how people see me this is what that show helped me see show what people really start and solve me and I didn't, because I really was looking for that. I remember right after we shot the first six episodes, I went to Australia and I did their Melbourne Festival. And Europeans and overseas people review comedy differently than us.

Here, we review it emotionally. We'll put ourself in it. I come from a weird background, so I don't like what he was talking about. There, it's very structural. It's like, I don't like, that joke didn't land. That joke made no sense. He didn't finish that one. That wrapped it up.

They're breaking down the game film. Like, ooh, really dropped the ball there. Exactly. So the first couple reviews I got were just that. Like, I wish he finished that. I wish he sped too quickly there. And I was like, oh, thank God. I know, it was great for me.

I never, nobody ever told me. Yeah, that sounds like he'd be really useful. I was so so happy nobody's ever told me what the fuck i am secretary yeah like why did you do that why don't you do that like why don't you like literally i did not know what the fuck i am and finally somebody told me what the fuck i was or at least a little bit right and i was like he's like basically his energy is fun and i like this and i was like oh so by the like literally yeah after the end of it I got great reviews Because it was like Finally I got Wow

The workshop For the first time in my life That's like what I would do If I weren't so lazy I would videotape Every one of my sets And scrutinize it like that I

Once you decide to do that That's when you'll get funny I'll tell you that now Once you Anytime before that You will not be as funny As when you start recording yourself And becoming aware of yourself

That's the whole point Of being an artist Yeah I'll let you know that now You gotta break yourself down i only audio record i don't video record because it's just i do too many shows every set oh i have to i do it and i listen to it and you write down because here's a problem for me uh when you don't know how you sound like you're not gonna know what you come off and then when you get off stage you don't

know why the fuck you bombed right so when you know and then like i know why i bomb now and i know when i do kill and when it's normally i do kill and you know how you don't like the way you sound on tape you can just change that man honestly i hate to sound so simple you can just change the way you sound well it's like the chapelle moment where you're like i'm gonna be funny now yeah flip the switch kind of i didn't like my set and i didn't know why it's because i'm needy you know like when they tell you like you need to get on stage and see what jokes are funny so i'm like going is this funny i'm like this what if i yell at am i funny as opposed to this is what martin short did when martin short did uh um table reads he wasn't funny for okay you know

imagine me in front of a camera studio audience i'm gonna be funny no no no this script is gonna make you right across the table laugh right now and he'd look you in the eyes and he'd fuck with you until you laugh and that's when i realized oh that's what comedy is comedy is not something in the future comedy is happening right now every time it doesn't give a who gives a fuck what happens tomorrow who gives a fuck yeah but yesterday today you're funny this is about the moment and so um once i started doing that I realized you can rehearse that way. I can just be funny by myself, make myself laugh and enjoy it and create kind of a love. So when I get on stage, I'm sharing with you what I think is awesome.

I'm not asking you to – begging you. If you don't like it, I know it's good. I fucking worked way too much. I know. So if you don't like it, that means some shit's going on with you and that's fine. That's all. I don't know how I got all there, but that's what's what i'm doing but just like the energy you bring to it so like if you're like oh man i don't want to do this fucking show i hate my shit i'm gonna go

fuck i'm gonna suck and then you go up there and it becomes like a self-fulfilling prophecy kind of yeah there's that well sometimes with that sometimes i i love i say that to myself because sometimes the crowd i know i gotta lower my expectations in order to like deal with them okay the worst thing in the world is think oh this guy's gonna be great and get up there yeah hey guys like fuck you okay cool the goal is to take away expectations take the ego out take the expectations out just take the people who they are because then you can truly have fun but if you want them to be something else and they're not yeah if you can't accept reality you're gonna suck man okay so it sounds like going to Australia was a turning point

for sure like cause essentially it sounds like a comedy coach you know what I mean like if you were playing football like somebody like grabbed you by the face mask and was like

hey what are you doing out there 2014 was like all the comedy coach the TV show helped me out a lot cause I was around I mean I was around Mulaney to write I was around Martin Short

who was one of the best actors I mean and then Elliot Gould helped me with my mind and the sleep and drive helped me with work ethic. I mean, these people were fucking brilliant. And then the Wall Australia helped me.

Passing the Comedy Cellar, again, helped me a lot, too. And then what really, really helped me was opening up for Mulaney. After the show stopped, we just did tours. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, because I found him on Instagram. And he was, like, posting a bunch of pictures. I was like, that's so fucking cool, man. Yeah, he does nothing but theaters.

And so opening up for him and getting to talk comedy with him was what really put all the icing because every shot I'd watch him and go, oh, that's, oh. Because he gets...

He's an assassin, dude. He kills. Yeah, he's great. I mean, I'm dirty in front of him and he gets up there super clean and it's still like,

this nigga doesn't even care. He's so brilliant. I'm actually excited because we're going to do Dublin together next month. Nice. him and nick crowell and they're not famous over there so we're all gonna be equal so i'm kind of excited to see what our sets are like i'm really excited man i'll be like oh hey what's up nigga even playing field now even playing field see what happens everybody see if you can follow my Negro appeal to the Europeans with that stuff.

So, yeah. So then doing Millennium, having all that happen, and sitting across from Martin Short at a table read, does that not just blow your fucking mind? Like, how did I end up here? Or... The first time. The first time in 2013 when we did the pilot,

yeah, I was so... Long way from high tops. Long way from, I mean, quickly a long way. Yeah. It's not like I was bawling and then I got the TV show. Yeah, no. I was poor. It seemed like you were a local headliner and then all of a sudden you're blowing up.

I wouldn't say local headliner. Yeah, I guess I was local bar show headliner and then I was doing college shows, so I was capable. It's inspiring. It's inspiring. And then I went from that to and then it's weird man like when you become a black actor especially on tv like all the other black actors introduce themselves it's like you're part of the club really that was awesome well

like my heroes are fucking like the black scientology really yeah was he just like yeah you're a black actor so am i so what's going's going on? You don't have to say it. Nothing, Terrence Howard. Of course, I'm sure you don't have to say it. No, because I was at the TCA's, and you know where all of us get together, all the TV shows for the next upcoming season come. Oh, like Upfronts and stuff? Yeah, Upfronts and TCA's. TCA's is like the news.

We had to do news circuits. But yeah, Upfronts. Okay. That one, too. So all the TV shows came. So it was fun to be like, our show came on. Of course, there's Empire's cast. And I didn't know. They didn't come out yet. So all I just saw was a bunch of black people. I was like, all the TV shows came. So it was like fun to be like, our show came on, of course, there's Empire's cast. And I didn't know,

they didn't come out yet. So all I just saw was a bunch of black people. I was like, oh shit, black people here. Let's hang out. So there was that. Then there was,

what else was hot? Brooklyn Nine-Nine. And that was cool because me and Chelsea Peretti kind of sort of started together in New York. So it was kind of fun to, like,

hey, shit, look at us. Me and her is weird because we keep linking up at weird times in our lives. I feel like we're emotionally connected in that way. We're like, hey, shit, look at us. Me and her are weird because we keep linking up at weird times in our lives. I feel like we're emotionally connected in that way.

We're like, we did, we started vaguely on the same open mics together. Then I left New York to go to D.C. Then came back and then we did

Montreal Comedy Festival together. Weirdly. Both did New Faces again. I was like, oh shit. Then we left again. Then of course, we're doing a TV show on the same network

on the same night on the same lot. It's just weird. Then I'm going to disappear for a few years and come back and hook up with her again. I don't know what, then we left again. Then, of course, we're doing a TV show on the same network on the same night on the same lot. It's just weird. Then I'm going to disappear for a few years and come back and hook up with her again. I don't know what the fuck she's going to be doing, but I'm linked to this girl for some reason. Not a bad person to be linked to. She keeps killing it every time, too. She's awesome.

Her special is really good. Oh my gosh, she's cool how that can help your stand-up, too. Oh, absolutely, because stand-up, you realize it all comes from one place, and so. Yeah. Yeah, it helps, like, you know what, they looked at jokes very disposable there, and that's what really clicked it for me, like, they write the script out, they want three jokes per page, and then they'd be like, all right, there's only two jokes here. We need another joke. And the writers would go, how about that, that, that, that? Good. Joke's in there. And I'm like, oh, jokes are fucking dispensable things. It's all about just what you need.

Twitter's kind of taught me that. Yeah. What are you talking about? What's the fun? So then when I did the Seth Meyers set, they asked me a few things. Can you not do this, this, this, and that? And I'm like, yeah, it's just jokes. Give us a fuck.

I don't know. Some people get all like, man, they're taking away from my art. They asked me legitimate stuff. They were like, can you not call Martin Luther King a whore? I have no problem not calling Martin Luther King a whore. I'm an artist. I think I can call him a whore. I can say anything else.

I don't give a fuck. So my set surprised me on how clean I can make it. And I was like, oh, maybe I could do this for the rest of my set. I just don't know. It took 30 days to make that five minutes clean. So I got the other 55 I got to worry about. Damn. So what was it like doing Mulaney?

And then did you guys shoot everything and then it came out? Or did you shoot a few? And were you still filming when the first episode came out? We filmed two or three more episodes after it came out. Yeah. I'd say it came out October 5th and I think we stopped production the last week of October.

Yeah. Yeah. So we shot like 10 episodes before everything came out. Uh-huh. Was that intense? Like being like, hey, I'm on TV now

and all that like... Um... I don't know. I never got a chance to really settle. It sounds like the last like four or five years of your life

have just been like fantasy. Yeah. It sounds like the last four or five years of your life have just been like a fantasy. Yeah. It's like every comedian dream coming true. Possibly. When I sum it up like this, possibly. It was also a lot of nightmares in there, too, so I'm not going to say it was great. Yeah.

I had a... No, there's a lot of things I didn't really understand until I had to sit back and breathe and go, okay, this is what's happening. Because I wasn't in the moment a lot. You know, especially when you're young, open mics, you just want to get to the next spot. And so there was one point I remember I was like,

I was waiting to see if I got the part. And I was waiting to see if the pilot got picked up. And then we were waiting to see if the pilot will get six episodes. Then we were wondering if we could get another 13 episodes. And I found that, I was like a year and a half of me just sitting around waiting. Even though things were good.

I'm like, when the fuck? Like I was on set reading a script going, I wonder if we're going to get more. And I'm like, well, when am I, I was on set reading a script and going, I wonder if we're gonna get more. And I'm like, well, when am I gonna enjoy this shit? Right, right, right. Like, you have a script in your hand right now. Yeah, when the fuck?

Like, when does happiness come? So after that, I just really, I started to really breathe and started to see the people around me and go, okay, this is really cool. Like, Lorne Michaels thinks I'm funny. This is cool. Yeah, I'm chilling with Lorne Michaels.

Like, just a comedy legend here. I mean, mean yeah people think i'm funny so i mean like right so so when it didn't get picked up for the second season were you like just okay with it in that sense of like wow at least i i did that this opens doors to other things yeah yeah it really is okay yeah it's really not a big deal like it's reading about it it looks a lot worse than actually living it like Like, again, I was super broke, and then I shot 13 episodes on the network TV. Like, I just want to let you know. Like, really, it's hard to be depressed for me, y'all.

Yeah, I love that joke you do, too, about, like, the check. You're like, I got that money now. Yeah, I thought I did. Before I become a Republican, because they're taking half. Yeah, no, I learned how to be, like, cheap. Like, I really, it's kind of cool. Like, I got an apartment that's not much more expensive. It's like not much more expensive than what I was doing before the show. So I got that, kind of cool. I got an apartment that's not much more expensive. It's like not much more expensive

than what I was doing before the show. So I got that plus my car. I got rid of my car. So my rent plus my car payment is what I'm paying for rent now

and I feel good about myself on being cheap. Yeah. Girlfriend, I just want to be an artist. I just want to be funny and then I'll figure out eventually I'll get big

on something. Yeah. Got to make sure you're funny first. I don't want to be in a situation where I'm like, I don't know

if I could do that. Fuck that. I wanna be able to be like, Kevin Hart is a fucking great, like he does random shit. SNL was great, his fucking roast, he's fucking great for the roast.

Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, he did the MTV roast, but he's doing Shaq's roast for years, so he's just, he's fucking ready. You call fucking Kevin Hart up, he's ready to do shit. Insane.

That's what the fucking you need to be aspired to. Be ready. Even when he handles controversy, when niggas are talking shit about him, he's ready to do shit. That's what the fuck you need to be aspired to. Be ready. Even when he handles controversy, when niggas are talking shit about him. He got on the radio and handled it like a fucking pro. Really? You just see people like, god damn it. Smart niggas.

You just go, god damn it. So is that a model that you want to follow? I mean, Kevin Hart, I guess, would maybe be an anomaly. In what way? In the sense that crazy, crazy way is that like crazy crazy super stardom i guess like would you want to be like in that like doing arena yeah yeah i think my stand-up style is good for arena so yeah i've done one arena once really i was uh for opie and anthony in 2007 i did like some kind of it was cool it's like 10 000 people and it felt so i was

like i could do this like this is this is what i like i like this it was like, I can do this. This is what I like. I like this. It was like. Yeah, because you're high energy and yelling and stuff. My energy. The only problem is I'm a little too fast. But I slow down by the time I get there, but I'll do that. Now, is that because you just get excited? Like going too fast? I just think quicker than people.

That's really what it is. I realized once I started smoking weed and slowing down on stage, things got a lot better. I really don't want to say right i really don't want to say that i don't want to say drugs help me but drugs made me people like drugs made me stop like it made me a half a step slower right people go and then people started hearing my full words and oh shit you talk about some cool shit and i realized i thought i was a hack this whole time that's why nobody laughed no i just didn't i didn't put commas enough commas on my act just got to punctuate it just now it really it. It really was missing. A little bit of punctuation.

Fucking shame. So that frantic, who's up? That frantic energy is that that's always been part of your personality that's not. I've always been the same.

I just didn't know how to orchestrate it. Right. So I was like everything at once as opposed to now I can hold back energy and talk a little bit. Then I can jump up here

and then. You're just one of those dudes that's just always taking in information. Yeah, just like lead the moment. Like if they're responding this way, I'll respond that way.'re just one of those dudes that's just always taking in information yeah just like leave the moment like if they're responding this way I'll respond that way

if they start calling it's too much then I gotta like I gotta tone down meet them back way and bring them back up I can't just I used to get on stage

just rape like and I was like that that isn't good it's just not the machine gun style

yeah it's like it's like when you're with a girl you don't like pay attention or you just wanna fuck the fuck out of her And leave That's what I was doing I just wasn't paying attention

I was just raping Right right right And then coming back To the DC scene Like I saw on Wednesday You did Big Hunt Because a bunch of people Are posting pictures like

Holy shit Seton's here A bunch of people Posting pictures really Yeah yeah Oh shit Yeah some of my comic buddies Yeah what's it like Coming back and doing shows Like that It was awesome to see that there's like a scene like

this the fact that kurt metzger uh kurt shackleford has competition i didn't oh yeah i didn't see that coming that's nice to see yeah yeah sean uh sean joyce to do the runs uh big hunt he has mics uh for underground comedy is what he calls it every night of the week and like multiple mics yeah i'm thinking i might come here for a week and before my uh take my cd and just do a bunch of spots around the city and that'd be awesome hang out it depends how much money that costs i don't want to waste money but right um if i sell out then i probably will waste money so i guess yeah my go my question is like maybe you didn't do it enough this time through but what's the DC scene

like to you now versus when you were starting out when I first started 2003 it was like three rooms in the city so like there was one in Arlington there was Wiseacres yeah I hear about Wiseacres a lot I mean the scene was

yeah it was kind of sad I remember I was doing this ethiopian bar of karaoke slash comedy i mean it was i don't know a lot more ignorant back in the day just because we didn't know how to put a show together we didn't know how to be funny we didn't know what good comedy was we didn't know how to get famous we just wanted to be funny right and now i don't know it's a lot more savvy now right yeah and of course now that our generation has made had success, now, like, motherfuckers here, I guess y'all, y'all all believe

y'all gonna be successful, right? That's the general thought? No, not necessarily. It'd be nice, but I'm not like, yeah, I'm gonna be famous. Yeah, you know, it all depends on

what your definition of success is. Daylon's on. Oh, is this the, the guy who won the contest? Is that his on now? No, it's Dalen. Is that Dalen?

I don't know. I think so. He's doing a surfer boy character. Does that sound familiar at all? That doesn't sound like Dalen. Yeah, it kind of does, but not. Yeah, you want to go see if, what time is it? 10.15.

So, show started at 9.45. Yeah, we should probably wrap it up, I guess. All right, let's do a few more minutes. But, yeah, dude, Seton, thanks for doing the podcast, man. This was great. No problem. I'm sure you got enough. How much time did we do

just now? I did about 40. I think this is among our best. Yeah, this is in the guy that lives in Harlem podcast good, but I think it's pretty good.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I did one. I did one dude at 102nd Street. I liked him. And I just don't... Fuck, man, come to me. What if you don't want

me on your show? Dude, that's... The fuck, man. I mean, like, Mark Maron, obviously I go to him. He has Obama coming to him. You can go to the garage. I can go to Marc Maron. I can go to, wait, wait, don't tell me.

I can go to Miss American Life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you got Joe Rogan, I guess I'll go to that. Yeah, no. He's the king. Being mobile, like, has been crazy for the podcast. That's how we got Patton Oswalt on the podcast. He was just in Hamden in Baltimore, and he tweeted that he was there.

And we're like, you want to do a podcast? He's like, all right, can you meet me here? Like, fucking A, right, we can meet you. He's awesome, isn't he? That's a dude. He's giving me such advice. Dude, yeah, hearing him talk about doing shows in like Harvard to Grace, Maryland and stuff. Because, yeah, he was in this scene.

I know, I know. A friend of mine, a guy named Joe Rucker, you should all in this scene. So it was crazy to talk to him about that. A friend of mine, a guy named Joe Rucker, you should all ask him. He has a good Pat Noswell bombing story that he told me about. I was like, oh, wow. But it happened like 45 years ago.

I mean, it was like a long-ass time ago. It's hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, is there anything you want to plug here at the end, man? No, just hopefully if this comes out in time, come see me at DC Improv July 16th. Yeah, yeah, this will be out Not this Monday

But the following Monday Yeah I'm gonna be taping a CD It's gonna be The best thing I've ever done in my life Come see it Oh that's great man Congratulations dude So thank you for doing the podcast

Four years in the making It's from high tops Doing a show for a bunch of drunks In Timonium And now you're back in Timonium Headlining my goobies And very little change for you No no no

It's all the same It's all the same. It's all the same. Never the change is hope. All right. Well, thank you to everybody for listening. Check out all the episodes of Degression Sessions on iTunes and Stitcher and DegressionSessions.com. Follow us on Twitter. I'm at Josh Koderna.

Mike Moran Wood. And Seton Smith on Twitter. Thank you, dude. Thanks for doing the podcast. Thanks so much, man. This was great. We'll talk to you guys soon. Love you.

Peace. you dude thanks for doing the podcast thanks so much we'll talk to you guys soon oh yeah We'll see you next time. Thank you.