The Digression Sessions - Ep. 190 - Yoni Wolf (Why?) & Brandon Lescure (The Backpage)!

Episode Date: July 11, 2016

Hola Digheads! Oh wow, it's been a minute! Josh is back with two interviews! Up first is  comedian and filmmaker, Brandon Lescure! He stops by to talk about his new short horror film, The Back Page! You can see it on July 19th FOR FREE at Magoobys! The second interview is with Yoni Wolf of Why?, Yoni & Geti, and his own podcast, The Wandering Wolf. Josh and Yoni talk in a Hyundai Sonata in a Baltimore parking lot about his new record, the recording process, and what happens when you want more from your career. Fascinating talk, especially for artists. Follow the podcast and Josh Kuderna, on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.  Josh - @JoshKuderna on Twitter and @JoshKuderna on Instagram The Pod - @DigSeshPod on Twitter The Pod's Facebook page - Dig Sesh on Facebook Thanks for listening, all! Do us a favor and rate and review the pod on iTunes & Stitcher plz!

Thunder Grunt Podcast Network Long time no talk. It's Josh Koderna here. How are you guys? I apologize for the delay in episodes, but I got busy and I was doing a bunch of shows and life and all that stuff. I bought a car, right? Big shot Hollywood podcaster Josh Koderna driving a 2016 Prius. Thank you. Thank you very, very much. I know. It's very cool. No, I'm really Maryland-based comedian and filmmaker, and we talk about his latest short film called The Back Page. And in the last half of the podcast, I interview one of my favorite artists, rapper, songwriter, singer, super talented guy, Yoni Wolf of the band Y. And he was in town in Baltimore a few weeks ago touring with his latest project called Yoni and Getty. And I interviewed him in his Hyundai Sonata that

he was renting, I think, for the tour. And I interviewed him in his car outside of the venue. He was playing the auto bar here in Baltimore. And yeah, we talked about for like a half hour, I think. And I was a little nervous. And I think it kind of shows a little bit. But I don't know if he was in the best mood or not. But he was cool overall. And we'll talk more about that later. But right now, I just want to plug some stuff before we get into the interviews. I will be a part of Artscape this weekend, this Saturday, the 16th. You can see me at Artscape. I'll be at the LOL at Artscape.

And it's a free show. It's a bunch of really funny comedians. My good buddy, Umar Khan, is hosting it. So come out to that. If you're listening to this today, Monday, July 11th, I'll be at the DC Arts Center doing improv with a bunch of super talented DC and Baltimore improvisers alongside some cats. That's what cool people say, some cats from Second City who are in town. So we're going to be improvising with them. Should be a really good show. So if you hear that today, Monday, July 11th, come out to that.

It's going to be at 7.30. And then Artscape stand-up will be, I think it starts at 8 o'clock. If not, you can check out artscape.org for all the details and all that stuff. Follow me on Twitter and Instagram, at Josh Koderna on both platforms. And there's a Digression Sessions Facebook page and all that stuff. And yeah, so with all that stuff and uh yeah so with all that said let's uh let's talk to brandon real quick brandon lescure very funny guy and he

uh he made a really cool film uh called the back page short film horror film and if you go to the back page film.com you can watch the trailer and find out if it's going to be screening near you or at a film festival near you. But if you're in the Baltimore, D.C. area, you can come out Tuesday, July 19th to Magoobie's Joke House in Timonium, Maryland. And you can see the film for free at Magoobie's Monster Madness. That's where they're going to be showing six short horror films, and it's free. And you can see Brandon's movie and past guest and friend of the show, and friend of mine, Joey Malinsky, a really great filmmaker, is showing a short as well. So, yeah, everybody go to that.

Check that out if you can. It's free. Why the fuck not, you know? And let's see. Beyond that, let's just talk to Brandon, and then I'll check back in after my chat with Brandon. All right, Brandon. Can we do some vocal warm-ups?

Yeah, sure, go for it. What do you got? Joshua Coderna is my friend. Joshua Coderna is my friend. I my i've been doing do you have to look strained when you do it i know the people listening can't see it but it looks like you're trying to swallow a brick i'm i have to stretch every muscle in my face joshua kaderna is my friend i it's weird i did these before i even knew you wow really i started i started them in ninth grade yeah there's some hard consonants in there, which I think will help.

God darn that. You really stretch out your neck in an image that will haunt my dreams, for sure. So, Brandon, tell me about the movie. Ah, good. That sounds interesting. No, Brandon Lascure, my buddy, comic, also a director now um joins me in the basement we just got done doing a mashup show i only hosted you did the heavy lifting yeah you did seven minutes of comedy no mic just breaking it down for the people that was weird i don't i don't think i've

ever not like i don't think i've ever done stand-up on purpose without a mic yeah yeah it's there have been plenty of garbage shows where you accidentally end up doing yeah like oh mic doesn't work or it's like cutting out during your set and it's like fuck it i'm just gonna yell yep but uh no so yeah the show we did was the mashup show where you do stand up we have a stand-up go up do a set and then improvise off of that or the improv troop will use your set as input. And since the improv troop doesn't use microphones, I just figured it's better for the audience to have the stand up not use it as well. So everybody's on the same.

Yeah, exactly. Weird transition. Yeah. But it is funny to see comedians that don't know what to do with their hands. Yeah. Like we did it in D.C. once for the 202 Festival. Do you know Adrian Rodney? Yeah. He did did the set he was one of the stand-ups and i was in the improv troupe and uh he came out and he had a beer in his hand just a can of beer and he had it like up by his face and he's like how y'all doing

just to like start yeah he's really like cool yeah hey guys yeah just kind of like reserved and just easygoing and he had this beer up by his face and it looked like he's like hey what's up and then take a drink of it never drank from it and then proceeded to use the can as like a microphone by his face for like 10 minutes unconsciously are i couldn't we couldn't tell but like the comics and the improvisers on the side are going nuts and we're just making fun of like mine like this is so crazy because he the best part was it was so close to his face and he never drank from it for like 10 minutes holding it yeah but it was great for us like as as the improv troupe right after that like we all just came out like faking miming you know like a beer to our lips and stuff like is this on is this thing on hello hello it was so fun but uh no you did great man so thanks dude yeah thank you for doing

the show and now we're in my basement hanging out naked you know we're gonna talk about joshua is naked in our basement basement see they're really good warm-ups i feel good oh i feel so hard in a good way though right yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah all right well let's talk about why you're here why your bullshit attitude all right oh everybody else come on out oh no it's an intervention podcast uh no so yeah you you uh you made a film uh a short film uh called the back page yes and uh it's about butt sex i haven't seen it oh yeah no it's a horror comedy about butt sex about butt sex um no it is a horror comedy about it's about a guy who is down on his luck and he um you just start describing yourself like he did a podcast and then he did a and then he it was an improv mashup show

and then he went into a basement and he did some vocal warm-ups okay and then uh he died interesting no that sounds great it's no it's not it's really bad no i don't want anyone to see it yeah uh it is a horror comedy about a guy who's down on his luck with women and like coming out of a breakup or out of like a it's it seemed like right in their line about that like he's yeah so he's kind of got out of a relationship going through a dry spell yeah and then he's got a cool buddy he's got a very cool buddy and his buddy's like hey man you need to fuck some puss and i'm quoting from the movie almost verbatim almost verbatim if it's not i wish i had written that um oh god i tried to make him the worst person ever yeah so that's

why i cast joe welke comedian yeah the two main roles well i guess i don't know joe's in it for a bit in the oh i don't want to say too much but yeah but uh brendan crick uh pennsylvania comic is uh is uh one of the stars i would say joe welke is in it as well comedian who's in new york now yeah and he wears a american flag tank top yeah bleach blonde hair yeah looking good yeah like i thought i looked like an asshole in mike finazzo's movie i wore a uh camo tank top and then i was like i don't know i think so you tank top you top the tank top we did top the tank top y'all done top to tank top i don't know how we top the tank top. Y'all done topped a tank top. I don't know how we topped a tank top, but we topped a tank top, and it's topped and tanked. Yo, that's tops, though.

Good job, man. But, yeah, his douchebag, horrible person friend convinces him to order a sensual massage from the back page of a newspaper. Hence the title, The Back Page. bad stuff happens. Yeah. I'm not going to say what, but it got pretty gross. Thanks. Shooting those scenes, how awkward is that?

I don't want to say too much, but to have a woman in various states of undress straddling Brendan Crick. And with prosthetics and that type of thing sucking things out of him. There are... Okay, so I wrote this script in last July. The actors were cast in august okay we shot that in november they had several months to know what was going to happen that it was going to get weird it was going to get weird and gross and they were so down and so couldn't have been more supportive of how of the weird churn that this movie takes

yeah until the day we shot it yeah and it was they they were it was it was they were troopers especially brendan because i want to say like i don't know how much i give too many spoilers i don't want to give too much away but some stuff has spit on his face. Some horrible things happen. Some thick-looking viscous fluid has spit on his face. Some horrible, horrible stuff happens to him. And you know what? I tried to be the supportive director. Sure.

And the stuff that we use in the movie, it's completely natural. It's not poisonous. It's nothing that's going to hurt him. I hope so. I would eat it. Uh-huh. I would take it. Off of his face.

No, no. I'm so supportive. Just lick it right off of him. I'm so glad I cast you in this. I can't wait to see the deleted scenes behind the scenes. I would eat it to show my solidarity, like, that this is, like, guys, we're in this together. And they're like, Brandon, we didn't ask you to do that. You're like, I'm eating.

I'm like, guys, I'm eating the gross stuff. We're a team. And they're like, no, I want to quit. You don't have to eat that. And, no, they hated a lot of that. But they were troopers. How many times did you have to shoot, like, gross stuff as like takes wise like was it was it like all right like two and then we don't have to spit any goo on your face the kissing thing took hours oh because the first

batch of takes yeah the um the stuff that we use in the fluid didn't show up on camera right. Gotcha. So we did like a whole hour of shooting and then went back and looked at the stuff and went, oh my God, this is not working. And they were so upset. No way. But then you show it to them and you go, look guys, if we're going to do this, you want it to look good, right? And they're just like, fuck you. But I guess you're it to them. You go, look, guys, like, if we're going to do this, we're going to. Yeah. You want it to look good, right?

And they're just like, fuck you. Yeah. But I guess you're right. Right. Yeah. And so we, like, it took a couple hours. But then, like, some of the bigger, like, even, like, the more, like, projectile stuff. Yeah.

Fluids, projectiles. That was one take or two takes because he he just really hated it yeah yeah yeah i could see that yeah uh yeah especially knowing brendan too like he's not i don't think he's like squeamish or anything but i can see him i well i think anybody in that situation wouldn't like stuff spit on their face but i can see i would i would i was i would have been totally you should have cast yourself i know that's weird no that's really weird spit on my face yeah especially as the director and like i'm just looking for that i didn't i wouldn't want i would have i would have killed myself if i had to take another another job on this thing like independent filmmaking is hard enough yeah when

you know like being the writer director producer yeah and then and then you know i did all the pre-production and all the post-production if i had to be in the son of a bitch yeah yeah i'm not that i'm not that ego much of an egomaniac right just a little bit yeah a little bit yeah no i mean i like acting and stuff like i've only done like small stuff here and there but the amount of like talented enough that's a big thing that too but even uh of course i mean that's a part of it you know really you know what let's give josh something uh but not a big one yeah because we know his reading i think it's mostly like this guy's so good you know we don't want him to outshine everybody just give him a little bit. Yeah. Good point. I thought about putting you in this film.

Just that sea shit spit on my face. No, as Lilith. As the main, as the, yeah. Really? Yeah. As the lady? You have the figure. I think I could have pulled it off.

Thank you. You could have. Bikini season is here, so I had to look good, you know? No, as far as like shooting stuff, like you realize even just shooting like a five minute sketch takes hours just because you have to set up everything and then like even just small cutaways when you're watching stuff like okay so if you're shooting this conversation we shoot the whole thing from your side now it's like all right now let's shoot it from josh's side we have to repeat all that

stuff and then like yeah do multiple takes of that for something where it's like one cut back to you going like yeah like it's just like we have to record it from that side yeah so realizing like how much it takes like you shot i think the movie clocks in around what like a half hour 30 30 yeah right we're almost right on the dot and how long did it take you to shoot all that uh it took we it was three three days we shot the movie in three days completely uh we shot all of um we shot like half the movie in three days completely. We shot all of... We shot like half the movie, like the bar scene stuff. We shot it in the end of September. And there's a lot of heavy special effects that we had to build.

And so we couldn't shoot the rest of the movie until November. Gotcha. So we shot in two chunks, which was really good because it gave us time to kind of reevaluate and fine-tune the script and rehearse a lot more. Nice. And so we shot the whole thing in

three days. Three extraordinarily long, I'm talking like three 20-hour days. I would never do it again. Holy shit. That's like the hard... I had like a fantastic crew of people. Right, right. Yeah,

never do that again. It really should have been like six days, honestly. Yeah, no, that's three days is a lot. That's the good thing about trying to condense it. Like,

I feel like three days is the absolute, and especially spreading it out yeah it's like people can buy into like oh my god all right it's gonna be a horrible weekend but it's just one weekend like yeah you start stretching things out into like 10 hour days but six of them people start to get a little but somehow you can do 60 hours in three days yeah it's only a long weekend yeah exactly yeah the uh but yeah there's definitely been stuff like where i've showed up to like you know it's like all right we're gonna show up uh i'm gonna need you here by uh by 10 and uh probably get you out of there by

i don't know two and then it's like one o'clock and we haven't shot anything it's like i have shit to do like well we're still setting up cameras like this is fucking crazy yeah well i tried to i really tried to avoid that on the stuff that like i personally have control control over that that bugs me like i i'm a stickler for for sticking on schedule because um but sometimes things go wrong oh totally or when you're shooting something like something you wrote and then once you see it on camera you're like oh this doesn't work or like dialogue or something you have to change. I feel like if you rehearse enough, you know, that like the pre-production and the post-production are really where things. I really do feel like it doesn't matter what happens when the cameras are rolling.

It's what happens before and after. Like if you rehearse hard enough, all the good shit's gonna happen in that rehearsal. And then you show up and if you're, you know, if you're director, photographer, if you've had meetings with him and you know, he knows where the camera, he or she knows where the camera's going

and your actors know what they're doing and what beats they're hitting, it's just a matter of fucking moving the camera right you know and making sure people get fed like we you said that the thing about uh like sometimes i'd sit there for hours and we'd be like all right and we just got to move the camera and so you could say yes yeah like well we had two camera setups so that we could shoot simultaneously yeah cross and then we could cross cut back and forth and it's the same. Right.

Like take. Shoot time as well. That helps a lot. Yeah. Whereas it's like, all right, that was great. Now let's do it all from this perspective.

Keep that energy up and improv that line again. Yeah. With that same energy. Yeah. It makes me think of the Simpsons. It's like, we already shot like when Milhouse was in the Radioactive Man movie. Yeah.

But we need it from this angle and this angle angles and he's like oh okay yeah yeah you learn it's just a lot of hurry up and wait yeah yeah although i would say not on my set dude we were you kept moving we were rocking and rolling i don't think i yeah like myself and my my partner on the film everett and i don't think we stopped moving for like the entire shoot. Like we can, yeah, we're, he and I are like a really like good team to work together because we have that tenacious like work ethic. And there were times where we would get really tired and like he would be physically tired, like falling asleep at the camera,

but I would be like mentally awake. So I would be like, Everett, wake up the camera, but I would be mentally awake. So I would be like, Everett, wake up. You need to do this and do this. But I would be laying on the ground giving him instructions. Right, right, right. It's 4 o'clock in the morning. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and you're supposed to act like, hey, we're having fun at the bar,

but it's 4 in the morning. When we wrapped, Brendan, the final shots were brent were some stuff with brendan and he literally just when we called cut he just laid down right where he was yeah and just went to sleep for six hours it's like good i'm done yeah he was like are we done yeah yeah good night yeah good night went to sleep i had where i tuckered the little man out yeah little guy you worked him too hard uh so good so when uh when can people see uh the back page people can see the back page um on tuesday uh july 19th at mcgooby's joke house nice we're doing a night of of horror films, all from Baltimore.

Cool. It's called Magoobie's Monster Madness. Whoa! Magoobie's Monster Madness. The triple M. Yeah. Okay. Is that a scary or a sexy voice?

Magoobie's Monster Madness. You get a fear boner. You're gonna get fucked. And scared. Yeah. In a good way. You'll have to find out. At Magoobie's Monster Badness.

No, it's six short horror films. It's just like a 90-minute show. It's free. My film, The Back page is going to be there um it's uh also the premiere of a film called sawin um i think uh joey malinsky's um uh he's got a short film that he's showing nice um and past guest on this show great director filmmaker yeah i'm excited i actually um i was looking for films to to you know add to the showing and um i you know i was looking for a couple weeks to kind of fill

out the lineup right and uh i i just took his sight unseen i haven't even seen i'm sure i'm sure it's good i've seen his stuff before he's he's really talented i'm excited to see it yeah anybody listening check out his stuff at uh across the bridge productions just google that and you'll find it joey's so talented like he the sizzle reel he put together of just his stuff he says people are like okay like but what have you actually like really shot he's like no this is all the stuff they're like no you'd like took stuff from the internet and he's like no no this is all mine yeah uh yeah joey i actually grew up on kent island with him which is weird enough and he lives like five houses down oh really it's crazy yeah we

were we weren't like tight on kent island but like we knew like friends of friends and then uh when i was moving here we came into contact because i was in a short film of his and uh he's like oh this is my address just come over we'll do we'll rehearse whatever i was like oh i'm actually moving in like five houses down he goes fuck you and i was like well no i'm actually moving he's like, oh, this is my address. Just come over. We'll rehearse, whatever. I was like, oh, I'm actually moving in like five houses down. He goes, fuck you. And I was like, well, no, I'm actually moving. He's like, no, fuck you. No.

Don't say that. We're neighbors. Yeah. No, no. Fuck you. No, I understand where you're moving. Fuck you. Yeah.

Sounds like you guys have a really good relationship. We're really cool. Yeah, we're at the park. Hey, Joey, fuck you. No, fuck you. Okay. He throws trash at you in the morning. Tell your i said fuck you too oh sorry oh unprofessional i thought i turned it off all right so july 19th mcgoobies it's 7 p.m and it's free that's good

yeah it's gonna be in the main room like they're gonna have a screen and everything club very nice yeah and um and then aside from that i'm just like i've submitted to have a screen and everything. Very nice. And then aside from that, I'm just like, I've submitted to like a billion film festivals and I'm just waiting on notification. And since it's a horror movie, a lot of those festivals are in October, September. And so they haven't notified yet. So I'm just kind of sitting and fingers crossed,

waiting to see if I'm going gonna jump off a bridge or not no man uh i think you know you're gonna get in some and then not others yeah i've already not gotten into some yeah is it like going to college all over again waiting for acceptance letters basically it's exactly like that um you might be going to the community college of film festivals i'll take it yeah i'll take it no i've already gotten rejections from a couple of like really big ones and i was like oh these are these are my harvard's like you're right right you know i'm the safety schools are coming good good deal now i gotta ask you about this because we've had chris lamartina on so it's gonna be

maybe some comparisons of this movie to one of his movies call girl at cthulhu how do you address those comparisons uh the movies are completely different i haven't seen call girl that's so just i the only thing is that i've just like i know that you and i have talked about it just like oh there's some comparisons there but i haven't seen his movie so i just want to you know for anybody listening like why don't you ask about call girl yeah i don't know who that person is who is that guy i think it's uh why don't you ask about call girl some some redneck who's very aware of baltimore horror films listening is good i ask him and he's talking to his ipod yeah he's looking at it he's got it you'd ask about the call girl got it a foot from his face he can't even see it like joshy yeah joshy i thought you hear me he thinks i live inside of

it he's shaking it you hear me he's talking at the bottom of it yeah hello ask him about the call girl siri tell josh to ask him about the call girl but yeah so yeah it's just chris is uh he's a horror filmmaker as well and then there's sort of just the it just has uh the call girl. But yeah, so yeah, it's just Chris, he's a horror filmmaker as well. And then there's sort of just the, it just has the call girl sort of demon thing going on. That's about the only thing, right? So Chris's movie, I had like very, I did have some knowledge of, but I didn't, I've never seen it. Knew it existed. it knew it existed i knew it existed just as like it was out there never knew never saw like a frame of it right uh went

into production on the movie and someone had mentioned to me i think it was someone who like i had given the script to who i was trying to i think it was stavros maybe gosh yeah because he's in that yeah well i had given him the script because i wanted him trying to, I think it was Stavros, maybe. Gotcha, yeah, because he's in that. Yeah, well, I had given him the script because I wanted him to, I wanted to sit down with him to talk about the main character to possibly have him play it.

And he mentioned like maybe, you know, hey, some of this stuff in here is a little bit similar to what Calgar of Cthulhu is. And I was like, oh, okay, well, one of my best friends who worked on my movie yeah with me uh zach trees also works with chris yeah so i was like well that's a concern let me ask zach and zach's like no dude it's not there's nothing similar nice and then one of our effects

guys who worked on chris's movie yeah worked on yeah call girl as well and so i asked him and he was like nah there's nothing and so i stayed away from chris's movie completely because i didn't want i didn't want to even like subliminally like yeah like if you see it yeah just in like the edit or something like that subliminally like fuck up or make something similar so i just went off their their okay their seal of approval made the film went editing, finished editing the film in like March. And then I sat down and finally watched Chris's movie, which is really great. It's a great movie.

Yeah, yeah. Completely different. Good. The tone is different. Right. The way we shot the movies are different. The plot is different i mean the only similarities are that you know his both of our movies have prostitutes call girls and both of our movies have like monsters in them right which that would be

like i mean chris made a slasher movie too yeah does that mean that if i made a slasher movie like i mean people made slasher movies before both of us yeah no no that's the thing yeah exactly like also it's it's not a new thing to have like a femme fatale like sexy woman turn out to be something else like yeah yeah well also i think um i mean and i don't want to speak for for his film but i think that his movie had more of a like b movie like campy kind of element yeah and uh i my movies is uh more of like honestly it's i think it's more of a comedy until we get to the horror winch and when i don't i don't really know if the horror is would be like kind of that b movie schlocky stuff as much as it would be more yeah like visceral gross body horror yeah it's kind of yeah i don't want to say you're going for like a serious tone but there's not like a wink to the camera really about like the effects

or the the gore and stuff like that yeah i i wanted to make people laugh turn people on yeah and then gross them the fuck out perfect and that's brandon leskear right there that is me in a nutshell he's turning me on but he's grossing me out and then he makes him then i makes him laugh yeah you do yeah you do ask him about the car girl ask him again i'm not satisfied with that answer that was a bullshit answer joshie joshie get him joshie pin him down and ask him uh no man i i i just wanted to ask you just because you know just because baltimore is a small like community especially as like arts and as far as like directors and then horror movies too i like i have tried to to like touch base with chris

several times because we seem to run in the same circle of friends and yeah filmmakers but i've never met him right and i like i wanted to but he's so busy yeah and yeah i think yeah i think he's gearing up to make another movie right now and he's working on comic stuff and then like professionally he directs and works for a production company i yeah i support him a hundred percent in what he's doing because anyone in in the independent like filmmaking or especially independent horror like i i you know i support because i know how difficult it is and he seems like he really has a passion for it he loves it yeah and so like i'm i yeah i would i would never plagiarize the only other guy in baltimore it'd be a pretty stupid Baltimore. It'd be a pretty bold... You know how stupid I would have to be?

It'd be a pretty bold move on your part. That would be a real bold move. I will say the original title for the back page was Prostitute of... Mm-hmm. Go ahead. No, I got nothing. I got nothing.

I couldn't come up with another thing for Cthulhu. All I got was Cthulhu Boo. Cthulhu Boo? I got close to that he's bullshit joshie cthulhu cthulhu boo is cthulhu for us bias you know what i mean uh no man no that joke thank you that was a good one thank you thank you thank you uh so yeah so people uh see for yourselves the differences in in films Yeah, yeah. And just go see this, because I mean, the production and everything was so clean and smooth. It looks great, man.

Thank you, dude. I really appreciate it. That was something we really tried hard to have a cinematic look to it. And a lot of that is on my you know my partner everett like ever glovier he's a super talented guy yeah and um you know he he really worked his butt off and so fucking a yeah and yeah so thank you i'm appreciate i appreciate um you uh saying that yeah of course um so yeah so see it uh if you're in the uh if you're on the east coast if you're on the planet make it to mcgoobies tuesday july 19th 7 p.m uh 7 p.m and it's free

which is mcgoobies monster madness that's what they call it yeah uh come out is there a plant like get fucked wow you're really selling this. Everybody. In the meantime. If you show up. I'm like actually trying to promote it. You get fucked. We'll suck and fuck you. Pull out your dick. We're going to fuck it.

Go to Facebook. Do you have a pussy? Look up the back page. We'll fuck that too. You're really working it. Yeah. So the back page has a page on Facebook. It does. And that's where. the back page. We'll fuck that too. You're really working it. Yeah, so the back page has a page on Facebook. It does.

And that's where... Well, yeah, the Backpage Film, and then our website's thebackpagefilm.com. Nice. Hopefully, we'll have some screenings that aren't at Mugubi's pretty soon. I've submitted to a million film festivals. I'm hoping to get into something in LA soon

because I'm going to be there living there soon so that'd be i would like to get into other places across the country that um that aren't just mcgooby's joke house right yeah well i mean that's that has a prestigious prestigious record of film premieres you're right it does think of all the films that have premiered there oh yeah suck and fuck nine which is the best in the series it the turn yeah from eight to nine yeah it's i mean it went from film noir yeah to just straight suck and fuck yeah i really i don't know why they did film noir in eight well it really worked especially since it took place on the international space station there's a lot of politics involved it's very interesting yeah you're right you know what it's not about those films it's about the back page which is showing

at where i think uh the suck and fuck fest no magubi monster madness yeah yeah so go check that out find the back page online pull out your dick brandon this is all getting cut i hope so nope no edits thank you for coming by buddy good luck with the film and bye oh we have fun don't we don't we? Don't we, me and that Brandon Liskiers? No, I love that guy. And go check out his film, The Back Page. It's going to be premiering at Magoobie's Joke House in Timonium, Maryland, like I said, July 19th

for Magoobie's Monster Madness. And if you can't make it to that, check out thebackpagefilm.com, and that has the trailer, and you can find out if it's going to be playing at a film festival near you or a screening or something like that. So get into it. And now I'm going to transition over to the interview I did with Yoni Wolfe of Y and Yoni and Getty, and that's the latest project from Yoni,

which she did with Serengeti. And it's called Testarossa. This is the name of the album they just put out. So check that out. It's really good. I enjoy it. And yeah, when I talked to Yoni, it was like a really hot day in June. And we did the interview in his car. And they sound checked for a while.

And I think he was a little stressed out, not like too happy. But maybe, I don't know, maybe I was just reading into it. But he was cool. But it was nice enough for him to make time. But I think he was a little stressed out after doing sound and then sitting in a muggy car in a Baltimore parking lot. But it was really interesting to hear his perspective on stuff he's one of those guys that like i thought had it all figured out and who i'm kind of jealous of career-wise and he makes great music and tours around and he's just kind of saying he's 37 and what's next basically and uh i don't know it was really really interesting to hear kind of like an artist kind of

midway through their career maybe not even midway but just kind of at that point where it's like well i've kind of done all the stuff i want to do what do i do next um but yeah i appreciate him taking out the time to uh to talk to me and uh some yeah it was cool it was really good so i hope you guys enjoy it so let's talk to yoni now and uh yeah we'll see you guys next week and like i said uh check out the digression sessions uh facebook page tell a friend and all that stuff but without further ado here's me and yoni wolf in a uh very very uh humid uh hyundai sonata in baltimore yoni Yoni! Yeah, so I didn't know that.

So with the Y record, all the writing is essentially yours? Yeah. I mean, yeah. Songwriting. For the most part. Not always 100%, but yeah. So where do you normally start like do you start at the piano or the keyboard or guitar or kind of have like a melody like is there a typical way where you would start a song like a foundation i mean you know i guess it varies per as per song and album you know what i mean yeah but uh i don't know you you know

there's like different ones that have different sounds that i could say well this this is like one that started with sort of a production idea or this is one that started with uh a melody idea or mostly they start with sort of a lyrical idea or with a poem or whatever and then you just try to find a way to put that into music you know um and you know if if it's if it's like a song song like i don't know how to explain it but there's like ones that are more like um pop songwriting singer songwriter songwriting you know um and then there's ones that are more production based so right you know you said you like that album alopecia so on that album say something like these few presidents or whatever is like a like a pop writing song right so that's uh you know you can look at that later

if you don't remember what song is no totally but these yeah but that you know so that song i wrote on piano you know i mean like you know piano and vocal and then yeah a song like good friday the one right before that is more of a production idea so that one gotcha you know i just sort of layered some production some sounds and stuff and then did had the vocals for on top of that gotcha so do you do you have a studio at your house where it's like you can pretty much do the majority of everything well yeah i do now i didn't in those that era we we we. We went to Minneapolis and recorded that stuff at a studio called Third Ear. Okay, got it. And that's true for every record that, well, for a few records we did in studios.

But, yeah, now I have a studio at my house, and my brother has a studio at his house. Oh, cool. So we just do stuff at home now. That's cool. And that's in Cincinnati, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, first of all i want to

say thanks for taking the time out to do this i forgot if i didn't say that but uh yeah i also pretty much the era of like uh of atmosphere and uh deaf jokes and all that stuff and uh that's kind of when i got into hip-hop a bunch so it was really cool to hear your interview with mr dibbs and slug and stuff like that too so i uh yeah it was cool just to hear like that perspective on stuff and also your interview with soul and because there'd be stuff that you'd allude to as far as like uh like tension and things with anticon and stuff and i knew of grand buffet because pittsburgh isn't too far from here and i remember getting excited like soul would take them on tour and be like oh they're gonna be on anticon and then like i don't know it's just cool to hear like i'm glad that you're

still making music and you're so good but it's also i didn't know you were so interwoven into the minneapolis kind of scene as well uh i mean you know i i've known all those guys a long time i can't say i'm like interwoven in in this minneapolis scene exactly but but yeah i mean knowing those guys i mean like the overlap of like oh these cool people know each other you know yeah if we're cool i don't know but but yeah i do i do know those slug is cool okay he's a cool guy yeah uh known him for a while yeah i mean yeah lightly right okay all right then pos from doom tree he's a minneapolis guy yeah okay so i was just wondering like just saying all that i was just wondering if

that's why you record up there like in oh well we recorded up there because two of our band members for that that that recorded that record with us um andy broder and mark Erickson live there. And they had sort of, there was a studio there that I had recorded or mixed, really. We recorded somewhere else, but mixed an album that I did with Andy Broder sort of a few years previous to that. Okay. And it felt good, so it just seemed right i don't know yeah we did it okay yeah it's one of those things where it's not that deep it's just like that's

where we go i mean yeah i mean we only we did two records there at the same time yeah that was alopecia and eskimo snow that's right same time right yeah um but those are the only two we've recorded there gotcha in minneapolis the other recorded at other studios. Okay, gotcha. Sorry, I thought you meant like you normally do stuff in Cincinnati, demo it, and then take it up there. Got it. No, no. Yeah, just there. And then we did an album in Texas.

The last Y album we did was in Texas. Oh, cool. In Denton or outside of Denton. How do you decide on that, like picking a studio in denton texas uh we just got we got a good deal for that place and it was a cool place and uh the guy who recorded the album is our friend brent benedict who uh he he has been our live engineer a lot of times he's our live engineer anyway for a lot of the time and we decided to ask him to engineer

it and uh he lived down there and knew the guys that own the studio um and uh they they gave us a good deal and stuff so okay yeah so another thing where it's like just logistics yes just logistics yes logistics is that so is that a lot of what kind of touring and making music becomes like i interviewed andy and he was saying like it's great like seeing stuff come together but basically like the more you kind of follow your dream like oh i'm an artist you have to become a businessman at the same time and be like all right now i need that i have a band that i have to pay for or they have to be taken care of and all that stuff you have to make sure your money's right and then it's like now go be creative you know yeah that that that is definitely an aspect of the thing yeah definitely I feel like I feel like it's not easy to balance.

I mean, I feel like I maybe was better at it at one point than I am now. Really? Or more bulldog than I am, you know, in the early days. And nowadays it's a struggle doing the business stuff. I don't like it. Yeah, that's what seems like a real drag of like. You know, and I don't know. Yeah, it's tough.

Okay. It is. It's tough. I don't know. I don't think I always make good decisions necessarily on that stuff. I don't know, man. You know, it's a weird world the way that everything's wrapped up in. Commerce.

In commerce, yeah. I mean, that's our world. Yeah. It's strange. It's, that's our world. Yeah. It's strange. It's the surface of our world. You know, it's not, there are many things beneath that surface, but that's sort of the,

that's the sort of the wiring around everything, you know? Yeah, and then kind of the bottom line of like, okay, yeah, you made a record, but is it selling or, you know, are you promoting right or shirts or merch in general? Yeah, stuff's tough. Yoni, you got a record, but is it selling or, you know, are you promoting right or shirts or merch in general? Yoni, you got a Snapchat, stuff like that. And you're like, I don't know. Like, do you, do you feel a pressure to do social media stuff? Uh, yeah. I mean, I, you know, I try to do it sometimes. I mean, I try to keep it as natural as possible. You know, I don't,

I don't, I don't want to be some guy that's like selling himself on the internet. Like, do you want to do your ad for Chiquita bananas now or like i can edit it i like i like i do i like social media for what it is you know like i think there's a way to be artful especially with like twitter or instagram like you know there's definitely a way to be artful with it and and have fun with it um you know i i think i use twitter and instagram more than like like facebook i don't know what to do on there like honestly like what do you do on facebook like yeah um but those other two you know and then there's other ones out there or tumblr you know people write these long

blog posts on tumblr i mean that's cool i don't really do that that often but every once in a while i'll get the bug to do something like that. But, you know, it is a lot. It's a lot, you know, and it does take you outside your center in a way, you know. Right, right. Of like, okay, I need to do all this superfluous stuff to take care of the main thing. Yeah. I'm spending so much energy on the other thing which is supposed to be supporting the main thing. The main thing is going to suffer.

Right. I mean, that's partially what started to happen with with my podcast like i still do it but i don't force myself to have one out every week which is what i was doing for a hundred episodes and then you know it it just sort of i was like i'm like why am i not doing music that much it was like oh well i have like these podcast deadlines every week you know what i mean so which people are like hey where's the podcast but it's not ruining their week right yeah i have the same thing like gotta get up get it up on monday you gotta keep it regular that's right it's like don't find it you know yeah if it comes out on wednesday they're not like dude it's not monday right right totally yeah and that's and also

if you subscribe to a podcast and you refresh your feed you're like oh cool there's a wandering wolf there yeah that's how i am with my yeah i'm like you know i just yeah excited about a new thing that comes up when when when duncan puts a new podcast up i'm excited yeah uh yeah yeah that's how i felt about it did you ever listen to the champs podcast yeah yeah that was sporadic yeah but it made it more fun yeah it's a new champs podcast? Yeah. That was sporadic, yeah. But it made it more fun. Yeah. Shit, it's a new Champs.

That was a great podcast. Is it going to be good? Probably not, but it might be cool. Totally. DJ Doug Pound crushing it. Yeah, that was one of my favorites. I was really bummed when they decided to stop doing that. Yeah, what are some of your favorite podcasts? What made you want to podcast?

Well, I liked the Champs a lot as well. That was a great one. Duncan Trussell was great. You know, the big ones. Marin is great. Yeah. That was a great interview you had with him too. I liked him being like, how long is this going to take?

He was kind of gruff. He was a little crabby up top. You're like, hey, I'm just excited to see you. Yeah. You know, I listen to a lot of, like, Fresh Air. I love Fresh Air. You know, This American Life. Right.

Radio Lab I listen to a lot. I really like that. I like the Ted Radio Hour a lot. Yeah, like, Radio Lab and This American american life it's almost not fair that their podcast like the production they can put into it and stuff like that like you do a really good job too of kind of if you're referencing a song or somebody references a song it's really cool to hear it kind of in the background kind of like fade in we did that in the old days i had i had a helper my friend ben oh we would kind of we would do that in the old days like put little

drops in but yeah i i don't do that now because it's too much yes because that's what i was like wow this guy's doing a lot like i don't have time to do that anymore we were spending like two days each you know two days a week on the podcast i was like yeah i haven't gotten paid a dime for it you know in fact it costs you money exactly yeah my my buddy mike who's uh my co-host on the show couldn't be here but in the beginning instead of breaks we would try to do like skits in between and then like you're spending two days writing skits right and then like you know my initial idea for the podcast was way different than what i ended up doing i ended up falling into this format that everyone does my initial idea was like i'm gonna do prank calls i'm gonna do skits i'm gonna do characters like all this shit and like it just

never it was just like you only have so much time in your life you know so it kind of and i also fell into like the interviews ended up being like the most satisfying part for me yeah like i just really enjoy talking to people so like yeah absolutely and it and it sort of taught me how to do that a bit so that was what i sort of fell into right no it is true like when you first start out you want to be so ambitious and be like, oh, I'm going to mess with the format and mix stuff in and characters. And then eventually you're like, it takes forever to edit that shit, too. And then also who like people like, yeah, it's cool. It's not your job.

Like Radiolab is their job. Right. So it's like, let me focus on being a musician instead of a podcast. Yeah. So is it still something you still want to do? Yeah. Like just podcasting, just kind of when it hits you or somebody cool to interview? I have three of them in the hopper right now that I got to put together when I get home.

Uh-huh. So, yeah, yeah, I still like doing it when I have a chance. But, you know, it's got to be i i have lots of other stuff i do as well you know to uh to keep busy or as far as like what do you mean just other stuff i'm doing besides the podcast right now you know there was a time where like basically when i started the podcast i was on tour for for uh an album that we put out and and that was what I focused on. Obviously, I had to do my tour duties and stuff and do shows, but like...

It was fun in the beginning to kind of edit and put stuff together. Yeah, I just had time during the day, like on tour or whatever. Right. We were on a bus and stuff like that, so I could just sit at the hotel and put the podcast together, whatever.

Yeah, on that Wi-Fi. Yeah. Yeah. So I was just doing stuff like that, so I could just sit at the hotel and put the podcast together. Yeah, on that Wi-Fi. Yeah. Yeah. So I was just doing it like that, basically. And then at some point you get home and then you want to start being creative again. And that was just kind of a little bit in the way. Gotcha. Gotcha. So what is it that gets you excited on the road?

Is it just the shows are the things that you do during the day to like i don't know stay centered or focused or anything like that or is it just pretty much just if i get a nice hotel if it's a nice hotel i'm happy if it's a shitty hotel i feel like a foreigner to myself so like if it's like a motel six you're like who even am i what i just i just i just feel grimy i you know i'm just picky i'm picky as hell about hotels are you i just yeah because because i'm just sensitive to the to the to the energy in the room and stuff like that and i feel it man i feel if there's like if somebody's been sad in that room recently yeah i feel that shit yeah

and it's like i feel for you but also you're bumming me out like are you empathetic in that way of like I will take on your sadness and you can't do that to me you're being a dick with it's hard it's tough yeah so I mean I have like tonight I have a nice room at the Marriott and it's just so nice it just makes a huge fucking difference yeah air conditioning nice bed oh god yeah spacious bathroom it's great mirrors everywhere always gotta gotta have it always gotta have my pops yeah that was your ad for pops right yes uh so yeah so you have comedians on too what is your kind of relationship to comedy and like of course like the y records like i remember like there's some jokey stuff or like seeing like music videos of you being like silly and shit like that so it seems like

humor is like kind of you've always kind of had that of like fucking around you wouldn't know it from from right now from me talking right now but no but yeah i'm i i uh i i love i love comedy sure yeah i mean who doesn't you know i mean that's that's like there are some god put that bone in our bodies i think i think god must must have a you know sense of humor as well if we're made and you're talking about the literal funny it's it's image the little funny bone yeah um no but yeah yeah I mean, I think it's, it's a big part of who we are. It's a, it's a coping mechanism. It's a, right.

It's, it's our enjoyment mechanism. Right. So yeah, of course it's a big, that's a big thing. I love it. Have you ever thought about going to an open mic and like trying to do five minutes? All the time. Yeah. There's a show upstairs.

It's an all ladies show, but I bet they would let you do five minutes. I, I, I would be scared to just freestyle something. And I don't have any bits written. Yeah, you can't just be like, you ever notice dogs are weird? Right, right. But no, I do think about that. And there's something about it that I like. But that said, I don't know that at this age that I could grind out a comedy career in the way that.

On top of everything else. Yeah, in the way that on top of everything else yeah in the way that it has to be done you know yeah from what they say you know you got you're in it for 10 years you know I have lots of friends that do it and right that's it that's disrespectful almost for me to be like yeah just go fucking do it you know I know how they grinded it out just like I ground grinded out my my music career. Right, so if a guy was to do the same thing, like, yeah, I play some covers on Sunday nights at the bar, so I'm a musician too. Well, that's fine, but if, I don't know,

when Keanu Reeves decides that he's going to start a band and he sells out Thousand Cap Rooms just because he's Keanu Reeves, and I'm not saying I'm that famous because I'm not. But like if I was to use my music career to get ahead as a comedian, I think that would be disrespectful. Right, right. But also, I mean, Dogstar is pretty good, bro. What's Dogstar? It's Keanu's band, man. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

Well, I didn't even know he had a band. But I know like whatever, Kevin Bacon or something. I don't know. I feel like all these guys have. Okay. That's a terrible name. I know. That's why it stuck with me.

I'm like Keanu Reeves is in Dogstar? You know what that makes me think of? What? That makes me think of a dog's asshole. Yeah. Check out that Dogstar right there. That's disgusting. That could even just be an asshole in general is Dogstar.

I guess. I guess. No, I know what you mean. Like, I've done shows with, like, Steve-O and people like that where it's like they didn't really start out as stand-ups, but now they're like, now I do stand-up, like, and they get paid, you know? Whatever. I can't, you know.

I mean, he's... He's actually was really cool. He's somewhere in that realm. I mean, he... Right, of comedy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, whatever. So am I, in a way, if you listen to my lyrics, right? Yeah. There's somewhere in that realm. Right, of comedy. Yeah. I mean, whatever.

So am I, in a way, if you listen to my lyrics, right? Yeah. There's definitely a lot of comedy, but whatever. Anyway, someday I'll get the courage to actually go up and do it. I think if you just go to an open mic, you're not stepping on anybody's toes or anything. I've done a couple little things. I did this character one time at this thing that Ryan Singer had. Yeah.

You know, he asked me if I would do. So I did that. But I think, honestly, probably I would be more apt to do, as opposed to stand-up, more apt to do acting like skit stuff. That's what I've done more. Like sketches and stuff. Yeah, I've done a lot of stuff like that with my friend andre highland and stuff so oh that's cool versus like going up there and being like yourself yeah like hey uh you know yeah it would just that would just feel a little bit weird maybe you know gotcha gotcha but i still say it's appealing it's still appealing don't get

me wrong yeah i just don't know if i would i don't know if i have the what it takes the right stuff you need the right stuff you need the right stuff yeah yeah absolutely no i was just curious about that because obviously like you know you like comedy and are a funny guy so i was just curious about that um so as far as like touring and stuff goes in music like what do you think like where are you going to be at like where do you see it all kind of going as far as like putting out records and touring like and staying in cincinnati did you make a conscious move to like stay there because you have family or just like like was like because i know you lived in oakland for a bit right with the whole anticon thing i did yeah so was it like were people

telling you like you have to stay like in a like.A. or New York as far as music goes? I mean, it's not like that. No one told me anything about anything ever. Like no manager or anything? No, no one. No one. No one. No.

No. There's never been something like that where it's like I've never had a guiding hand in my career. I wish I have. No, like even like mentor type or anything? No, never. Damn. Never. So you are actually that wandering

wolf yeah I mean it's just always trying to you know I mean I have friends of course that I get opinions from but yeah I do wish that I had like a you know like like like you know I was friends with Isaac Brock or uh you know one of these people that that have sort of been down all these roads just you know 10 years before me or whatever and And they can be like, I mean, I have, I have mentor types in my life to an extent, but nobody in the business like that, you know, like that, that can say, okay, here's what's happening with your, with your career. And here's what you need to do. Right. They're like, I don't know. I don't know. Like nobody that's like, yeah, I toured for 10 years too. Like, here's what you got to do. Right. Yeah. Nobody like that. So it it is you do kind of just you're all it's always a guessing game you know i felt like early on my my career like

i felt like i was more i was just more gung-ho like i just knew like what i wanted to do in terms of it was just simple it was like that's all we do we go out we just do shows we just tour and do shows yeah now it's way you know it just seems more complicated it's like it's it's hard to make a living doing this and right yeah you know i'm getting older and it's it's hard to to you know i i can't stay in grimy places anymore or do you know or like it's just a bit more a bit more complicated as you get on but no i i understand that i'm i'm 29 i'll be 30 this year and i have friends that do stand up and they're moving to new york and they stay in shitholes and stuff like that and like dude i i live in a row home by myself like i have a flat

screen tv like i don't want to go back to like just living like sleeping on a bed of like pizza boxes and shit like that like totally yeah so so is man so that's crazy like i would have felt like you would have met somebody like along the way or somebody like in like an analogous path i mean i've met people you know that that you know but yeah nobody that i'm close to that that uh that can tell me really what how things work or what to do you know you right you glean stuff and you you know i i know people in all all walks of the industry for sure but yeah nobody in my position that can say you know that's like further along or something they can say here's i don't even know what further along means but you know just somebody that's that's 10 years ahead of me or whatever and

right in doing this stuff and be like yeah yeah i wish you know so if if it is kind of like this for the rest of it like i go like go home to cincinnati chilled you have family around record some music and then go on tour is that ideal is that like i mean you know that's that's tough i mean it's something that that i was just talking today to my friend about is you know it's like when do you feel that you're satisfied are you you know when do you feel like you've achieved you know the life that you you you would hope for yourself or something you know right um yeah that's something that comes up on this podcast a lot about like even like comedians that i'm like holy shit they made it or musicians and people like that like there's always just more mountain to climb you know what i mean it's like

like early on for you you're like like, yeah, we're touring. It's great. We're playing shows. We go home. That's what we do. But then it's like, well, I want to play this place. Or how come so-and-so is playing that place and I'm not? Stuff like that.

What's up? Oh, hey. What's good? How are you? Good, good. Just doing a podcast. Hello. Oh, nice.

Hi. Hey. Hi. Hey. We're about to walk around here and find a liquor store. Okay. Cool. doing a podcast hello hi hi okay cool bye um some young ladies stop by stop by the uh the podcast hq here the sonata so yeah i mean that that it it it it is a question you know when are you satisfied with what you're doing you know i mean it mostly comes down to you know an inner probably an inner satisfaction you know the stuff that people do meditation and yoga for as you spoke about in the beginning um

you know but there's also being able to see into the future a little bit to make plans right some would say that's not a good thing like buddhist people or whatever would say that you know you want to just be living in the present or something um but you got to plan a little bit especially in this culture that's that's that we do prioritize that we do prioritize having a plan and going about and actualizing that plan. And I think that way because I'm from where I'm from. But you don't want to be wrapped up in, you don't want to just have a brain full of schemes. You do want to leave room for joy.

Yeah, and otherwise if you're just scheming all the time, it is true that you're not in the moment. You're like, oh, I got to do this thing. I can't focus on this right now because I'm planning for X, Y, and Z down the road. But I also feel like, you know, I do feel like my scheming mind maybe isn't as complete as it used to be. Or I entered a new room that has opened up. You know, if we're talking about going through a cave or something we weren't but now we are okay um you know when i was a young man yeah

i didn't see there was through in the darkness i didn't see that there that the how large the cavern was how many possibilities there were it was just like forward it was just like forward always forward right and now i see that there are there are many directions around me that i could take um you know that that also take the same amount of work and and scheming you know to achieve yeah sort of uh so yeah scheming sounds so dark by the way i know i know but but that's what it is man scheming yeah uh no no i i know what you mean of like kind of like all right i need to have a balance of like yeah i'm in the moment but also i am going to be in the future at some point so i need to fucking think about it right you set up you drop bread crumbs for your future self sort of yeah no it's a really good way to put it so as far as like being in the cave

and seeing different angles and stuff like that what are you what are you thinking about as far as like ways to proceed i don't know man i don't know i don't know i mean is that too is that too deep no it's it's not it's just you know there's it It's just like, do you try to make money? Do you try to make a living as you're approaching 40? Do you stay, quote, unquote, sort of true to your artistic thing? Do you try to do both? Do you continue doing music? Do you move on?

And when I say you i mean me yeah you know do do you try to move towards other artistic directions or other other mediums right um you know uh i just you know i don't know i i have lots of interests you know yeah yeah absolutely but it is kind of like what you're saying with stand-up like or podcasting like yeah i have an interest in it but is that something i want to put you can't put like 75 in and then expect a ton back you know what i mean so if you're kind of burning yourself out in a bunch of different directions you're only so much time yeah yeah but i mean as far as music goes man it's it's it's just, you guys are so good, and you're amazing, so I love all the Y records and stuff, so. Well, thank you.

Yeah, man, so it's been awesome to talk to you, so I hope that, I don't know, I don't want you to be, I feel like we're at, like, a low level here, but, I mean, as far as, like, music goes and touring and stuff, I think you're doing great, man. Thank you. I mean, yeah, no, I'm not dark. And in fact, you know, I've kind of, like in these small towns, like I said, like there's barely anybody at these shows. Right. And, you know, I may have been depressed years back, but in this case I'm just kind of like, you know, whatever. Right. You know, I made a record, and I stand stand behind and i think it's a cool record

yeah it's really good and uh people you know people who like what i do like the record it hasn't really opened out to like new audiences or anything like that right i hope i'm not being too candid but that's just seems to be what's going on. I mean, again, in the large towns, you know, in New York and Chicago and Philly, like, you know, people like the record and people come to the show. I think it's, yeah, Testa Rosa. It's really good, man. And it's thematic, too. Like, there's a through line.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, we spent a lot of time working on the record and put a lot of love and energy into it. I think it's great. i think it's great essentially like a tale about like kind of a couple that gets together has kids and kind of what we're talking about now like it's a guy it's like in a band right like touring and they kind of break up and right and that kind of like yeah yeah so you know it's just so the the thing is so so then, okay, well, you got to be satisfied. So I made a record.

I'm glad to have it in my, you know, catalog of things that I've made and created and gave to the world. And, you know, it's not making me rich, but that's all right. I move on, do the next thing. And, you know, you just kind of keep moving forward and and uh i mean maybe that's fine yeah i mean i like as far like to me i'm proud of it you should be man it's a great record it's really good and you guys sounded awesome i heard the sound check so it sounds fucking great yeah like i said when uh when i saw you here a couple years ago you guys are still

one of the best live shows I've seen. I couldn't believe how tight and sonically everything, it sounded like the record but just a little more intense. Right. Well, thank you. I would say probably when you first started out, if you found out you were still

touring, like hey, in 20 years or whatever, or 15, if you're like, hey, I still 20 years or whatever or 15 if you're like hey i still tour i'm still making music that i like like you'd be like that's dope you know yeah so just like it's just a changing perspective i guess like as you as you get older like okay well what what is gonna make me happy here yeah i don't know and then you know and then there's the idea of of at some point having kids or something right you know i don't have a long-term girlfriend that I would have kids with. So it's not like a super real thing for me yet.

But, yeah, I'm getting to be 40 soon. I mean, I'm 37, I think. You've been on tour that long well nah it's just it's just the older you get you it's kind of they call blurs but right yeah i think i'm 37 so yeah i mean you know whatever it's just it's it's something that does you know that crosses my mind it's like at some point is that going to happen yeah um i don't know but you know how how does that change things well you do need to make more money when that happens i suppose so you need to focus on that aspect of things but and then being on the road versus being home and sure there's that too yeah yeah well um well yeah i appreciate you doing this man this is really

cool i don't want to take up too much of your time, especially since it's so fucking humid outside, too. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Yeah, dude, thank you for doing it. So, yeah, people, check out Testarossa. It's available wherever you get records, iTunes, all that stuff, band camps. The band is Yoni and Getty with an ampersand. Y-O-N-I-N-G-E-T-I. Nice. And Wandering Wolf Podcast.

The Wandering Wolf Podcast dot com. At Yoni Wolf on Twitter. And yeah, I think that's it, right? That's it. That's it. Any future babies, mamas, you know, Yoni up. Oh, God. Look at the kids, you know.

Tweet it, right? Yeah. Sure. Alright, God. Look, some kids, you know? Tweet it. Right? Yeah. Sure. Sure. All right. Thank you to everybody for listening. If you want to see us live doing stand-up and stuff like that, go to digressionsessions.com slash calendar. Follow us on Twitter.

The podcast is at DigSeshPod. I'm at Josh Koderna. Michael Moran is at Mike Moran Wood. And Yoni, thanks again, man. David Beckner, take us out. Dick Russian Sessions, coming to an end. Thank you. We'll be right back. Oh yeah, oh yeah