The Digression Sessions - Ep. 276 - Interrobang Theatre Company!

Episode Date: February 4, 2019

Hola Digheads, on this week's episode, Josh and Umar sit down with their old friends Katie Hileman and Kiirstn Pagan of The Interrobang Theatre Company!  See their show, One Night Stand, on Febr...uary 9th in Baltimore! The show is a one-night-only cabaret. It's a celebration of love, sex, dating, and Interrobang’s great comeback to the Baltimore theatre scene. Interrobang want to challenge the theatre community and themselves to be more creative than they were yesterday through the production and development of new plays written, designed, and performed by Baltimore artists. Follow the podcast and Josh Kuderna and Umar Khan, on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram! Josh - @JoshKuderna on Twitter and @JoshKuderna on Instagram The Pod - @DigSeshPod on Twitter The Pod's Facebook page - Dig Sesh on Facebook Thanks for listening, all! Do the pod a favor and rate and review the pod on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Laughable, Stitcher, & Spotify plz!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 TAGE NETWORK That's a Gotti. Yeah, Umar has a lavalier mic on. Is that what it's named? A lav is short for lavalier? Yeah. Just to make sure you remember. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So yeah, so when Umar goes to the bathroom and i admit all the
Starting point is 00:00:28 murders yeah well you fooled him all right we're here you're using your hands i know umar's hands free so yeah when you were when you didn't have a mic either it was so funny to watch you use your hands because you're like, I'm a school psychologist. I don't know what to do. Yeah. It changes things. Wow, interesting. Yeah. Because you always have the mic, you know.
Starting point is 00:00:53 All right. Yeah. It feels weird not seeing you hold a microphone. It feels weird. Do you want to hold something? No. Just use the can. He's got his Waterloo.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold the can to your face. The whole time. Yeah, it's a good look. It's a good look. We got some guests on the show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold the can to your face. The whole time. Yeah, it's a good look. It's a good look. We got some guests on the show. Yes, we do.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Old friends. Old friends. So old. Plug in a theater of theirs. We got Kirsten Pagan. Woo! Katie Howman. Woo!
Starting point is 00:01:18 Welcome. On the cast. Plug in the Interrobang Theater. Thanks, guys. Yeah. Thanks for having us. Yay! Of course, of course so uh yeah what
Starting point is 00:01:28 what exactly you're promoting here okay we're doing a show called one night stand oh i know sexy little risky sexy um it's a variety show uh like nights on the fringe like oh cool yeah oh that's cool are you having comedians on or really yeah yeah you guys got you know that right
Starting point is 00:01:48 no what tell me about that that's interesting you didn't ask us to do the show I think they're looking for the broads oh yeah
Starting point is 00:01:54 yeah they're very pretty Jesus as I slip we've got Violet Gray you've probably heard of her nice Jessica Murphy Garrett
Starting point is 00:02:03 tight yeah nice and then uh some drag queens okay and some drag kings wow yeah one who uses the hashtag beards and titties all the time oh my god king of beards and titties wait what's the name of the drag king king yeah there are two one is black dynamite oh and the other is magic dyke oh my god magic dyke right i feel like they always have some type of pun like that right oh yeah yeah they're always a beer baron i'll be like yeah instead of magic mike i get it yeah yeah you got it i think oh i
Starting point is 00:02:38 didn't get that yeah i know really yeah and then uh he dances to pony so oh my god it makes sense right katie you're gonna have to like glue that to the bottom of your or just your lips yeah you gotta keep it on there yeah and uh when is this all happening saturday february 9th wow where 8 p.m fells point corner theater oh my god you know what's that space like i've never been there it's cute yeah there are two spaces there's an upstairs and downstairs downstairs which is like i don't know a 90 seat proscenium theater yeah little black box theater big used to do shows there yeah oh all right and uh it's just like a fundraising show for interrobang you know i burped i do these things i've built so I'm drinking a fizzy water I'm moved on to Waterloo
Starting point is 00:03:28 instead of LaCroix I just like them better you didn't have to flex on them so hard I'm just saying bro LaCroix is fucking wack it's a little more expensive but the cans are nicer I feel like
Starting point is 00:03:40 all you need to do to sell products to people like us now is just make it look a little old-timey. That's how all that soap, the Meyers soap, that's the only reason people reach for a Meyers. This looks organic, and it's just bullshit. It's the same stuff. It's all chemicals. But it's vintage. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's the label. And then now everyone has it in their bathrooms. Like all my friends, every restaurant, like a coffee shop, whatever type place. It's very interesting. They get you, you know? Yeah. It's almost like we all have a hipster bullshit aesthetic. There you go.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Interesting. That's real. That's real. Interesting. What were we talking about? I don't even remember. The show. The show.
Starting point is 00:04:24 The fundraiser show sorry it is also like we didn't produce for the last year because we were all just kind of going through it i went to grad school you went to grad school i went to grad school where you went to south africa and i was in africa which is like america's not good enough for you yeah no i uh. What? Wow. Wow. I don't know. People are going to go to your show now. Yeah. It was just nice because it was really warm there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:49 That's pretty much it. Right. Yeah. Okay, yeah. We can't compete with that. That's fair. How about the racism? Lots of racism.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Nice. Here or Africa? Both. Okay. More here, though, right? Yes, more here. For real? More here?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Hold on. They just ended. Apartheid was the 90s right so yeah but you can tell that they're like really making an effort to like figure their shit out whereas like here i feel like no one is trying to figure it out really yeah true you know i feel that's like a controversial opinion yeah in my opinion people are gonna build a wall in front of your show yeah unbelievable never anyway so you guys were going through it and then so now you guys are trying to get back into producing some theater some local theater yeah yeah so everyone is like in a place i think where we felt comfortable producing again so this is like the first step out for like after a year
Starting point is 00:05:44 nice yeah so it's like a little step out for like after a year nice yeah so it's like a little bit of a fundraiser too we'll be asking people to donate for 501c3 non-profit yeah always asking for donations okay yeah very npr there for a second yeah do i sound like iverglass yeah yeah an interbang tote bag with every tote bags. Oh, I love totes. We should do tote bags. Mugs. T-shirts. Hats. We do have T-shirts. We do. I will say, I feel like you can't have enough tote bags. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:15 They just go missing or you leave them at people's houses. Dude, so whenever I see totes, I take them. That's one thing I'm fine with having around. We have too many totes, I think. You have too many? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Share the wealth, bro. Yeah. I think nine is a good number. Karen bought so much shit at Trader Joe's the other day, they gave her a free tote bag. What? Wow. Yeah. How much stuff did she buy?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Too much. Jeez. Too much. Were you annoyed? I wasn't thrilled about it. I was like, $100 tote bag. I don't know if it's worth it, you annoyed? I wasn't thrilled about it. I was like, a $100 tote bag. I don't know if it's worth it. You know?
Starting point is 00:06:50 I feel like when I go grocery shopping at Trader Joe's, it's... And that's their whole scheme. They put out things. They want you to walk past something and just be like, yeah, I'll try this. That's their thing. That's like any grocery store. No. something just be like yeah i'll try this like that's that's her thing i like any grocery store no well i listen to i listen i listen to a whole podcast a freakonomics podcast on trainer joe's freakonomics oh and it was it was like so insane it's the most successful grocery store yeah and
Starting point is 00:07:17 they do no advertising and and interesting they they do i guess they send out their like newsletter thingy like like, but that's pretty much it. Yeah. And then they're like, most grocery stores have all these options and Trader Joe's is like, nah, we don't want to, well, it's just all their own shit. Like that. But also it's a very limited amount.
Starting point is 00:07:37 So like, uh, they've, they follow like researchers have done these studies where like if there's too much choice, then your brain just kind of shuts down. Makes sense. Yeah. So if you have a limited amount of options, you're more likely to buy something. And so that's why they're so successful. I can see that. And I feel like that's, like, you know, you guys are going for it.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You're not like, we'll put on just a couple shows a year. That's true. It is, like, much less overwhelming from a marketing standpoint. Yeah. Like, we don't have to talk all that often. You're just tricking people into going. Yeah. Well, yeah we're trying don't miss them always right yeah you know how that is right yes of course tricking people absolutely yes we're all collectors here yeah never performing yeah only once or twice a year once or twice i'm like i'm doing that four minutes tonight be there
Starting point is 00:08:21 not happening again till the next summer solstice. Hot commodity. Yeah, exactly. So do you guys like, you guys write your own, who writes, do you guys like, do you guys like write your own shows?
Starting point is 00:08:33 We have. So for One Night Stand, Katie wrote a show. I did. About me. I did. I wrote a play about Kirsten. About?
Starting point is 00:08:40 And guess what it's called. Oh, let me guess. Bitch. Close. Okay. It's called chlamydia. Ooh, you got chlamydia? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Wow. Can we talk about this? Absolutely. Nice. I got an STD before also. What was it? Cool. Was it chlamydia?
Starting point is 00:08:55 No. Wait a minute. Did you guys both get it at Trader Joe's? Yeah. We traded. It was on sale. I had to clap. What was I going to do?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Wow. You got chlamydia. In the last... In the fall. In the. You got chlamydia in the last. In the fall. In the fall. Or I found out in the fall. Yeah, really. Did you have to call people and be like, hey, by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, so that's sort of the crux of the play. So I told. So you're like, hey, by the way, you gave me the clap. I didn't give it to you. Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did not bode well.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. Right. So I told Katie about it it and she was like oh you should just have a party where you invite everyone and just tell them all together yeah and then i was like oh that would make for a really great play wow and then the play funny yeah the play didn't end up being that way no it's like how to describe it in a short the play is really more about Tinder and kind of like how stupid boys are on Tinder. Oh, boy. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 So I have like actual screenshots of like real conversations that like men try to have on Tinder. And that becomes the text of the men in the play. Wow. Gotcha. From actual Tinder messages. Yes. Some of them are mine.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. God. Can you share a good life oh yeah the messages okay so the one that's featured in the play i'll like touch on a little bit without giving it away i matched with a guy and two hours later we started chatting yeah and now did you message him or did he message you he messaged me wow oh cocky your profile read i don't have chlamydia what up yeah yeah i did but i took care of it two pills um yeah that's all it is i know easy peasy oh you know i've never had like i i had a weird one mine lasted for seven months by the way a weird one oh i didn't tell
Starting point is 00:10:42 anyone i was like uh yeah i was gonna say this is the first time I'm hearing of it. I was 20... It's a person radio. I think, yeah. I was 22, and I got this thing. I was hooking up with some Goucher college chick. I hooked up with a lot of Goucher chicks. But I met this one on OkCupid, because Tinder wasn't a thing yet.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And anyway, and she was like... She had some book on polyamory, so she was like a radical chick. Sure. And so I guess she was sleeping around a lot. And anyway, but then I got in another relationship and I found these white dots all over
Starting point is 00:11:20 my pubic region. I remember this. Yeah. And I was like, oh my god so i went to some so you did tell people maybe but i i didn't like i feel like i'm more you didn't talk about on a podcast yeah i don't think i talked about on the podcast but i uh so i went to a doctor at patient first and and he was like and i have a bias against foreign doctors. Like, I just don't trust foreign, medically trained foreign people. I just don't. And I recently took, I went to a microaggression training at work,
Starting point is 00:11:53 and that was one of the questions. Just so you could microaggress harder? Yeah, well, it was like, how comfortable are you, would you be? Where did you get your degree? How comfortable would you be if you were seeing a doctor That was trained in India And I said Oh God damn it
Starting point is 00:12:09 What Omar said was so controversial We had to bleep it out It's happened so much We gotta open a door or a window Eric, my other roomie's cooking Give him the bacon Is his idea the vent on? Nah, I didn't want to turn it on
Starting point is 00:12:24 It's probably the shorter one. Yeah, the longer one's always the light. Is that true? FYI. Yeah, the vents, it's too loud.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Okay. I don't know, would the vent pick up in her mic? It's probably not better than the fucking alarm. Anyway, I went to this doctor and he was like,
Starting point is 00:12:40 you know, he sounded weird and he wasn't from here, obviously. And he was just like, I'm so lucky that you're saying this. Oh, yeah, I know.'t from here, obviously. And he was just like. We're so lucky that you're saying this. Oh, yeah, I know. People are like.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah, I'm sweating. He also, like, I just think he didn't want to. That's the fire in this, Eric. But I also think he, like, just did not want to look at my dick, you know. Like, it was weird because I was like, do you want to see it? And he's like, ah, you're probably fine. I'm like, yeah, but I would. What?
Starting point is 00:13:01 It was weird. I just remember having to convince this guy to look. It was like I'm on a date or something. He's like, I'm going to look, but no hom know. It was weird. I just remember having to convince this guy to look. It was like I'm on a date or something. He's like, I'm going to look, but no homo, dog. Yeah. Because he was like, all your blood work came from. I'm like, yeah, but it's on my skin. He's like, ah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And then so he was just like, all right. And then so he did this move where he just kind of was like, OK. Like with the hand, he just gestured. Like, get out. All right, move your. Yeah, he seems like a reluctant stepdad or something. He's like, I'm not really your dad. And he looked.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He didn't even look directly at it. He looked at it, like, from the side. Like, at a glance, he was just like, ah, it's just razor bumps. And I'm like. Yeah. And then I was like, all right, the doctor said they're razor bumps. I believed him. And it just didn't go away.
Starting point is 00:13:42 So then I went to a dermatologist. And this fucking fucking i can't believe i've never told this story because i went to the dermatologist i've never been to a dermatologist and now i have to go because i have something like on my dick and so the receptionist this cute ass blonde girl's like hey i know you right and i'm like and they know why I'm there like they must know cause it must like they probably on your chart yeah and she's like no but where have we met and I was like
Starting point is 00:14:12 I don't know who knows and she's like where did you go to high school and I was like and I'm like I don't want to do this game with you right now so I'm just like I like I was just like I think I lied and said I went to a different high school than the one i actually went to and she's like i'll figure it out before you leave
Starting point is 00:14:29 i was like please don't oh god and then so i'm so then i'm sitting and i go back and then this lady's like the lady who took me back the nurse is like asking about me my symptoms and then she's like oh by the way uh the doctor he just just has some, like, he trains, like, medical students. And so she just told me. I don't think she asked me if it was okay. And this room is tiny, dude. It's, like, as big as, like, my living room, which the listeners don't know. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Just picture it. Eight by 12? That's it? It's a small office in walk literally 7 medical students and then the doctor's like look at how fucked up this dick is
Starting point is 00:15:13 and then so then he looks at my dick he's like oh yeah that's molluscum contagiosum that's what it's called it sounds like a Harry Potter thing that's fucking gross and he it sounds like a harry potter thing yeah that's uh fucking a gross and he was like you got that from someone i was like oh my god i'm freaking out and he's like yeah yeah guys everyone looks so then everyone's just like peeking in how small is
Starting point is 00:15:35 your dick at this point it's so small like an audi belly button would be bigger than my dick so tiny it's so small in my body and i'd just be a little baby it's it's so bad it's so tiny. It's so small. My balls would be in my body, and I'd just be a little baby. It's so bad. It's like, yeah, and so they're all, like, leaning in, like, oh, okay, okay. And I'm just like. One girl pukes. Yeah. And it's just like, there's nothing, like, you can say in that moment, right?
Starting point is 00:15:59 You just, like, sit there, and you're like, all right, I have an STD, a small dick. Gina jokes, first Thursday of the month. There you go. I was not funny at this point. and you're like, all right, I have an STD, a small dick. Do the jokes, first Thursday of the month. There you go. So hot blooded. I was not funny at this point. And yeah, that was my,
Starting point is 00:16:11 and then so he gave it. So you had it for seven months. Yeah, so he was like, the best way, he's like, I could freeze it off but it'll probably just come back.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And he said, a lot of times like, like kids get this just from crawling around and from each other and they get it on their arms and shit and once,
Starting point is 00:16:28 if you get it once, you never get it again. It's like chicken like chicken pox so he's like so you've probably never gotten it wait wait wait so what what did you have it's called molluscum contagios oh i thought you had the clap so that's not no no no i thought that was like the name for it or something like that and and so it's just like these little they look like warts but they come once and then they're they'll never come back whoa and they're super contagious that's why the name is that and so uh i had to he was like the best way to get rid of it is put this cream on it and essentially it's like this like acid what it's some chemical thing that like it literally burns them off of your skin right so it turns into these huge fucking scabs and they fall off eventually and they like
Starting point is 00:17:05 they fucking bleed and it's like terrible and it took I had to do that twice because they came back oh and then Evan my roommate he got the same thing and he said the doctor just froze them off and they never came back I was like motherfucker yeah
Starting point is 00:17:21 yeah cause I got a planters ward on my foot and that's what they had to do is basically like freeze it yeah so and i wore condoms oh such a bummer anyways tell us your chlamydia story well that sounds worse than chlamydia yeah it's not that bad it's not yeah i mean i mean it can kill you right if it goes undet, that's syphilis. Yeah, syphilis goes to your brain. It makes a beeline for your brain. But chlamydia, if it's untreated,
Starting point is 00:17:49 I think just in women, it can damage your reproductive system. Okay. Yeah, but you're not using that anyway. Right. Better off. Right, so I just went for an annual and I had the regular tests
Starting point is 00:18:03 and then I got a call a few days later from my regular doctor to say like, well, you know, when I call, it's never good. So I'm just going to cut right to it. You're a big slut. She's very nice. Not good. Not good. You're a slut.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Wow. Yeah. And so. I mean, she was pretty like, I don't know. How cool can a doctor be about it? Like she was very nice about it. Yeah. It's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Right. Gave me the prescription, picked it up. But then she told me, like, yeah, I should tell my sexual partners. Oh, partners. Multiple. Well, she assumed. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And then so you did that. And I did that. How many people did you have? You don't have to actually say. I told three. Wow. And did they have you don't have to actually say i i told three wow and did they have it and she didn't tell the other 13 she only told her top three yeah so men have symptoms right like men yeah have symptoms but women can go symptom free for a while yeah i had no symptoms i had no idea wow that's sick dude just keep
Starting point is 00:19:05 burping i can't help it i have gi problems it's a good way to respond to an std conversation oh my god katie have you ever had an std no i have not uh by the end of this podcast i know you're making it sound really appealing nothing good good. It smells weird. It's a, what did you call it? Sticky. Moluscom contagioso. Moluscom. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Evan. When I told Evan, my roommate, he was like the first time, this was like almost 10 years ago. Now he's like, Oh, you had the musk too,
Starting point is 00:19:41 bro. That should be the name of the pod, the musk. The musk. Yeah. A girl that I work with, she was like, have you ever gotten a cold sore on your lip? I was like, no, not really. She's like, oh, I just got my first one, and it's like right here. It's like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah. I'd be like, you're with baby herpes. I've never gotten a cold sore on my lips either, too. That's very common, right? Oh, yeah. It's herpes, technically. I've never had that. I don't think I have. Like on your lip. I've never gotten a cold sore on my lips either, dude. That's very common, right? Oh, yeah. It's herpes, technically. I've never had that. I don't think I have.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Like, on your lips. Yeah. Woof. No. And I don't see them that often either. But people say, like, almost, this is like one in three people have herpes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Well, I mean, technically. God. Chicken pox is, like, a herpes strain. Yeah. Technically, so. That's my favorite uh our buddy nick mullen uh comtown fame he did a baltimore podcast where he he used to be like a big drunk and uh did you listen to this podcast there's a podcast though where uh i can't remember
Starting point is 00:20:39 who it was some sidebar guys would do it and he talked about getting herpes and warts so thick mullet has herpes and warts like how gnarly is that like you have to explain that to every sexual partner oh yeah yeah that's a bummer well yeah on the podcast they asked him too like did you did you tell your mom about me no so did you did anyone like make you feel bad Or anything or were the dudes pretty cool about it Um one guy made me feel kind of bad About it But like not
Starting point is 00:21:11 Such a basic thing like take a couple pills But it's also like you fucked someone without a condom dude Well so what happened Right well so what happened was Um Uh it wasn't like he made me feel bad about it But like he just got really defensive about it As if to say like it wasn't me it wasn't me But I wasn't like he made me feel bad about it but like he just got really defensive about it as if to say like it wasn't me
Starting point is 00:21:28 but I wasn't inferring that and so I was like okay it's okay you consoling him you just like that's his approval that's what it turned into and then I guess the other thing too was that
Starting point is 00:21:44 and I'm not totally clear on what the exact timing of everything was but when I told him that I what it turned into and then I guess the other thing too was that and I'm not totally clear on what the exact timing of everything was but when I told him that I had it his reaction was oh yeah yeah me too wow probably him right I cannot say to be honest but like not like I cannot say on the podcast but like I don't
Starting point is 00:22:00 right but it was just like not it didn't feel good yeah and like we have since like kind of made up about it and like it's all good and i think we understand each other and it's fine but um the initial the initial conversation was just like oh rough and he knew for a week and didn't tell you i think i don't know he went back and said it was not that long but in any case he knew before right yeah yeah that is a tough uh what's the move what's the move like you the responsible move is to call people but if you yeah i don't
Starting point is 00:22:33 know you're like you'll figure it out which is shitty but i i can see why people that's what most people do right most people do that most people probably don't call. It's not good. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, you don't want to have a lady lose her reproductive. Yeah, it falls out. Yeah. I don't think that's what it is. No, it doesn't fall out. But fuck everything. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah. It could be bad. So then you wrote a play around this. Yeah, and it has that confrontation. Wow. Is it a one-act play? Yeah, a short play. It's like 20 minutes long.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Okay. I wrote it for my playwriting class last semester. Oh, nice. And everyone really liked it a lot. Oh, sweet. So we're going to do it again for more people. It's road-tested. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yes. I like that. Of course. All right. But the other thing that was really fun about it, one of the Tinder conversations that made it in, I started to say this. Yeah. So I was talking to this guy.
Starting point is 00:23:23 We had matched. And like two hours later, we started chatting. He just kept sending these monologues of text. I would give a really small prompt. What brings you to Tinder? What is your dating life? What brings you to Tinder? I can see how you had sex with three guys.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Your game is strong. Very good. Don't have to try it with three guys. Your game is strong. Very good. Don't have to try it, you guys. And he would just launch into these monologues, and in one of them, he went on a diatribe about how he's a complicated man. He's constantly objectified. Yeah, for his body, because he's a male mom. Did you fuck this guy?
Starting point is 00:24:04 No. I was going to say. Did you fuck this guy? No. No, no, no, no. I was going to say. It didn't go beyond this conversation. It's like, I made love to him. Excuse me? Excuse me? We traded syphilis.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Excuse me? Yeah, it was cool. Anyway, so he gave you these monologues. Yeah, and at one point, he compared himself to Kanye West. He said, I think, quote, I relate to Kanye on many levels. Oh, my God. Many. Nice.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Nice. Not just one. No, no. Lots of them. He's a complex character. Wow. But, yeah, so he, like, threw that out there, just like, oh, woe is me. I'm so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's such a bummer. Yes, literally. With me just asking, like, you know, what's your dating life been like? Yeah. And, like, that's what he launched into. He's like, honestly, not easy. All the chicks get, like, so wet for me. And it's like, talk to me first.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You know? Get to know me. Life is hard. Truly. Yeah. Yeah. That's so crazy. Like, does that work on anyone, you think?
Starting point is 00:24:56 I can't imagine. Probably. If there's a chick that's just like, all right, you're hot. I'll hook up with you. You know? Yeah. Because this is a, it's like a problem. Like guys on these dating sites.
Starting point is 00:25:07 But then it's like, are these people who are on the spectrum? Like, you know what I mean? So I think that's where my mind goes to. Because to have that lack of awareness with the social interaction, like that you are coming across as a complete douchebag or just not so weird or nuts yeah that's that makes me think off it like you can be high functioning on a reality show autistic you know what i mean because it's like that's just kind of the vibe and that's like a lot of what instagram is too that's true yeah but it's it does seem to be like it's a it's like there's like a big portion of men who just don't understand like when like the things they say to women is like either gross harassment or just stupid like
Starting point is 00:25:54 it makes you look stupid yeah yeah you know yeah i can't imagine the amount of shit that women get like pearl post a lot of that stuff in her stories a friend of ours comic she was saying last night that she was like waiting uh at a train station and a guy was like with his son and hitting on her you know like can i just sit and wait for the train oh dude uh uh like uh kids dads who are single hit will just hit on teachers as if they're on the street catcalling it's insanity for like a pta thing you know just during the school day because some teachers are like so fucking hot and uh oh but that's the thing like that's the difference like even like like me and my friends like i was just listening to like a podcast where these two comics were
Starting point is 00:26:43 saying like it's it must suck to be a woman. Because, like, this woman was taking this comic around the gallery. And she was being so nice and explaining every piece of art to him. And he was like, you know, like, he's like, I know how much it sucks. Because my wife is a touring female comedian. And she gets shit all the time. But, like, I still have these impulses. Like, the whole time she's talking to me, I'm just picturing myself fucking her. And, like, I do that all the time but like i still have these impulses like the whole time she's talking to me i'm just picturing myself fucking her and like i do that all the time and i feel like i'm a guy who like
Starting point is 00:27:09 is woke not woke but like it like so like i suppress those urges you're aware but we're just wired that way i think and some guys just let it run loose maybe i don't know right you think like I feel like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Every guy is like that. I think we're wired. It's not an excuse.
Starting point is 00:27:29 But some guys, I guess, just don't know how to, like. Curb it. Curb it, yeah. Or care. Or care, yeah. So then it gets mixed with being, like, super narcissistic and superficial. And you're like, whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. This is what I'm into. Yeah. And then also with Tinder, you must be like, somebody's going to fucking like this. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. A hundred people I match with. I can into. Yeah, and then also with Tinder, you must be like, somebody's going to fucking like this. I don't know. I don't know, 100 people I match with. I can't. It's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I feel like these are the guys that are like, they're single, they pay for sex, and then they hate women because they don't understand what they're doing, what's wrong. Well, they don't see them as human either. Yeah, exactly. It's like a conquest kind of thing yeah yeah so oh boy not like me and umi's very woke we're so yeah we respect modern gentlemen yeah did you guys meet your significant others on the dating app no nope no i've never used the dating
Starting point is 00:28:20 app wow monogamy yeah i've only had one serious relationship on a dating app but every other i meet like like i met my current girl my girlfriend saying current girlfriend sounds bad yeah it's like for right now right now thank god she does not listen to this it's like what do i do right now i mean passion yeah she'll ask me i'm gonna start going to night school she'll ask me like every time she's like do you did you talk about me because then she'll listen so i'm like baby uh no i met her at a cookout my carol do that too cool yeah but she had a boyfriend at the time but they were like but they were on the outs and i did like the creepy move where like i found her on facebook I don't think that's creepy
Starting point is 00:29:05 yeah I guess it's not what did you do we were all hanging out I got her and her friend to play me and my friend in a game of we throw the bean bags cornhole and
Starting point is 00:29:20 which is already sexy yeah right and me and Karen were just vibing where i was making her laugh she was making me laugh beanbags and holes we were uh yeah it was funny because she's older than me and when i asked her her age because she doesn't look her age she was like i'm 37 i was like the first wheelchair you're like that's fine i think it made sense in contact oh because she didn't want to tell me her age i was like tell me your age that's okay yeah i was like that's okay yeah she didn't want to tell you yeah yeah i was trying to like tell
Starting point is 00:30:01 her okay but you don't need a fucking 20-some-year-old piece of shit telling you that. And then I messaged her on Facebook, and I was like, hey, we should grab whatever. And she was like, ah, I'm seeing somebody. And then I was like, okay. And then she just, like, a couple months later, she was coming to shows, and I was like, I feel like this chick is single now. And I asked her out, yeah. Yeah. And she, we hung out once, and I was like i feel like this chick is single now yeah yeah and she we hung out once and i was like is this a date and she's like i'm still kind of seeing this guy it's not totally over and i was like oh that's weird anyway and then now we're dating you're like that's okay that happens
Starting point is 00:30:37 suck your pants off yeah that's okay what about you guys are you guys seeing people yeah yeah online kirsten's playing the field yeah how's that going because you were not single for a long time a really long time i think that's why like i'm on the apps and everything now because i didn't before it's i think it's good yeah yeah it can be fun it can be overwhelming so it like i go through phases where i turn off all the notifications and like don't look for a while and then like right bored and i mean it is a game like there's a game oh yeah and like that's fun and satisfying just the swiping without like any conversation people you know because this town's so tiny yeah
Starting point is 00:31:16 yeah that's always fun oh yeah yeah i try to do the dating apps but i don't get past like hello how are you because i'm like I am not ready for whatever they're going to say is it gnarly well just like now then like hearing all of Kirsten's stories and like just everyone's stories it just seems like really gross and scary
Starting point is 00:31:37 yeah but I don't know how else to like meet guys you know what I mean like it's like what you do now unless I can go to like a cookout and someone someone to play cornhole i think we're lucky because like we're out i think we're out more than the average person that's true well you two especially yeah meeting people yeah i mean obviously you're not single now i think it is the worst way to be yeah i met karen at a show yeah yeah yeah i I've dated Too many people From shows
Starting point is 00:32:06 And it feels weird Yeah not good Not good You gotta know Shit and where to eat Yeah Oh no Dude and it's crazy
Starting point is 00:32:13 Cause a lot of them Still come And then Stav Was making fun of me He was like Dude that's how much You didn't matter In their life
Starting point is 00:32:19 He's like That's how shitty Your dick is That they're bringing Another guy to your show i thought that was so funny like he's like you're so not threatening dude right you mean nothing yeah damn so but it's going good are you seeing like someone or multiple people um yeah there are some people who have been more consistent but like it's nothing serious and then you know new people that's
Starting point is 00:32:48 i think that's a problem it's like there's you're always looking for something else right it feels like especially because they because of the apps it feels like there are 10 000 other options right like so if someone doesn't check every box you're like well i think it comes back to the choices because there's so many choices now like right available at your fingertips that you think like so if someone doesn't check every box you're like well i think it comes back to the choices because there's so many choices now like right available at your fingertips that you think you're missing out right yeah got that fomo yeah yeah because i had that for a long time i was like i was juggling like way too many women at one time and i was just like this player i'm not bragging but i'm just dude i was like i did not
Starting point is 00:33:25 get laid for so long in life i didn't get laid all through college right yeah like and uh no one wanted to talk to me and now you know it's it's nice yeah see when you get i mean i yeah i was in a relationship for a long time and so like now that i'm on the other side, I'm like, let's get it. Yeah. Oh, my God. I wish people could have seen her face. Damn, someone is thirsty. That's so tight. Getting it. Yeah, it is really interesting to have a perspective, like, a woman's perspective of the dating apps.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Because for guys, it's just like, oh, women, like, message and then just fall off. Because that happens a lot. Like, we're talking and then it's just like you ask them out they're like I'm just here for fun I'm like what the fuck are you doing
Starting point is 00:34:09 you're wasting my time there's so many options yeah I know but guys do that too I think oh for real like you'll be talking back and forth
Starting point is 00:34:15 and like I'll ask a question and then the conversation will just go away ghost yeah it's not even a ghost at that point I feel like
Starting point is 00:34:23 like it's just I don't know because we never met right you know like they weren't a real person right it's micro ghost how do you guys feel about ghosting like let's say you go on three dates yeah how do you feel and then one of them gives and then he just stops like i welcome to so i say if it's three dates or under a ghost is okay like maybe a ghost never feels good even after one date. Seems like three would be the max. I wouldn't be mad about it.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I'm like not cool with it. At all? Yeah I think it's shitty. It is shitty. It's definitely the easy way out. But how much do you owe somebody? You don't owe anybody anything ever. I agree with that. But it is courteous. For sure. Yes and it's a more polite society. I'm all about politeness it is courteous for sure yes and it would be it's a
Starting point is 00:35:05 more polite society i'm all about politeness and courteousness but you politely tell me okay but use your man i struggle with this like would you feel okay if if someone was just like you know what uh i didn't feel anything we should part our like that we should part ways or like i don't need another date like that you don't like that that's your worst fear i don't know i personally wouldn't care if someone said that to me but to say that to someone oh yeah it sounds it's i feel like a lot of people say something along those lines like maybe it's a little bit inferred but they say something else like i think i maybe stepped out too early here like i'm not really into dating it's not you it's
Starting point is 00:35:51 me it's all yeah i hate that because that's everyone's go-to and everyone's like i just got out of something but again what are you gonna be like i think you're fucking ugly i don't know like you're not you know what can you say Ooh, has that happened? Because that's Guy's number one complaint. Is what? Girls are ugly? Girls are ugly. You guys heard about this? No.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That's a thing? That's a thing? Ugly? Who is it? Hampton Young did that joke on Conan where he said, like, girls, because, like, worry about online dating is they're going gonna get murdered and the guys is just like oh i hope she's not ugly you know or that she doesn't look like her pictures yeah has that happened to you with dudes i feel like it's harder for dudes to do that because of like makeup
Starting point is 00:36:34 and we don't wear makeup and shit yeah i guess you could post an old picture you could put yeah but like i don't know all of my pictures are recent like taken within the last year no not you i know i. I'm just saying. Oh my God. But like, I know. I told you you're ugly. No, but like I worry about it. Why did you do a headshot from 1999?
Starting point is 00:36:51 But like I worry about it. Because like my pictures, I don't know, like my pictures are, like I'm a photographer, so a lot of my pictures are like picture pictures, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:59 And so I worry that people will see me in person and be like. You're the least photographer ever. I know. What do I do? I take picture pictures. I'm a professional professional.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Apropos. Yeah. Hire me. Hire me. But I worry then that people will be like, Oh, she doesn't look like that. Cause your pictures are too nice.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Yeah. They're like, they're not just cell phone pictures. People know. That was a, that was the number one critique I got from people. They're like, what the pictures. People know. That was the number one critique I got from people. They're like, what the fuck are you using headshots? Don't use headshots.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Your pictures were too nice. They look too curated. People want to see you out with friends and doing stuff that other people do because otherwise you could look... It just makes you look phony. Yeah, you look too full of yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Don't use headshots, Katie. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. It would be like a little aggressive. Very helpful advice. Yeah. Yeah. Look normal, but great.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You know, you can just do both of those things. Absolutely. Take a professional picture without it looking professional. Yeah. You know, that's the way to do it. Cool. So I've never been told, yeah, that I was fucking ugly and like. That's not.
Starting point is 00:38:02 My question was, did you show up and see a guy and you're like, oh, this is not what I thought? What happens to me a lot is that men are shorter than I anticipated. Wow. But I'm pretty tall. What's too short for you? For me, I don't want to look directly
Starting point is 00:38:20 in the eyes. Like eye to eye. I want to look up. I want to feel like a teeny tiny princess. What about you, Katie? Do you care about height? Not really, to be honest. I feel like Katie's a more wove one. She's like, I want a little baby.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I like what I like. I'm also too terrified to speak to men, so that's my problem. So I'm kind of like Tick. Yeah, that's my Tick. Now, who has uh speaking of jokes is it mark norman or samarill it's mark norman it's like yeah he's like no wonder chicks always want like a guy that's taller than them because that's like the perfect like selfie angle so it's like they always feel like they're just like hi yeah you don't want to be under like like looking
Starting point is 00:39:01 up a girl like look at this double chin. Yeah, that's not fair. Exactly. That is such a good goddamn joke. Damn. He's a great writer. I'll never be. We'll never be that funny. Cool.
Starting point is 00:39:12 So how do you guys? I'm going to throw in that dig. That's like whenever me and Evan will watch Stand Up or I'll share videos with him, it's just like, God, what is it to be that funny? Yeah. How's the theater scene in Baltimore? Is it burgeoning? Where do we start? Is it bad? videos with him and it's just like god what is it to be that funny yeah well yeah how's like the theater scene in baltimore is it burgeoning where do we start is it bad i think for a while that's
Starting point is 00:39:31 a reaction to every scene in baltimore how's the music scene oh i mean i guess if you're in any scene like if we were to ask you what's the comedy scene like well it asked me which one the baltimore it's it's struggles yeah yeah it's it's struggles yeah it's always struggles right yeah it's a small city it's like i think a scene can't be better than the city it's in interesting yeah yeah when we first started i feel like there was a big like push of all these independent like diy companies i remember this yeah and there were so many of them and yellow sign you guys cohesion and like everybody and now people are sort of them. NX, Yellow Sign, you guys. Cohesion and everybody. And now people are sort of petering out because life happens and there's no money
Starting point is 00:40:10 and no space and everyone is being sexually harassed. Are they closed? Single Care got a ton of money. I heard they're closed. They're moving, yeah. They're not closing. They're moving out of the space. So they'll still produce as a company.
Starting point is 00:40:22 But they won't have that theater anymore. Yeah, space is really difficult. But yeah, even like a theater like single care which got loans and all kinds of grants and stuff has to fucking eventually move yeah and i heard they were i heard they were struggling years ago damn damn that's crazy yeah i don't know all the ins and outs but i think this build this building as beautiful as it was like their new theater i think it ended up being like too expensive what do you guys think it is like because that's that's the struggle for every scene in this town is like how the fuck do you get people to give a shit about anything oh i don't know that's what we're trying to figure out million dollar question i feel like you have to tap into a feeling and i don't know
Starting point is 00:40:59 i agree like i think the bros are really good at that. They're so good at it. What are they doing? Because it's like a war cry. I don't know what it is. It's very, but is it? The Baltimore Rock Opera Society. Is it just like a. For Liz and Liz Knight. It's a very specific crowd.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And is it just friends supporting friends? Do you know what I mean? I think there's a lot of that, yeah. That's what I think most of it is. And there's so many people involved in that production that if even two, three of their friends come, it's going to pack out a show. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And they have a lot of different components to their shows. So they have the music, and then they have the singers and the musicians, but then they also have lots of visual artists doing the costumes. Set pieces. Yeah, that's why their shows are amazing amazing and that's why people want to go see them because they always there's gotta be like a hundred people involved in making that show work absolutely yeah yeah yeah like uh i'll tell you guys off record but i heard some of the spaces they were looking
Starting point is 00:41:58 at and how much they cost i was like jesus christ permanent Permanent spaces? Yeah. For them? Yeah. Wow. Crazy. Like hundreds of thousands or millions? Yeah. Millions? I'll tell you guys off the, but I don't think they're going to get it. Yeah. How would they get a loan for that much money?
Starting point is 00:42:16 That's insane. Or a gift. They're like vying for like big, big grants, I think. From the state. Yeah. Okay. And then like, yeah, it doesn't matter but anyway so yeah that's doable i mean center stage and everyman they did their big renovations and like that's how they raise a lot of capital money i think but i think you're right you have to tap
Starting point is 00:42:35 into something where people like like yeah like i want to like it has to transcend whatever medium it is so like comedy has to transcend more than just jokes has to say something yeah you know like a scene has to like be about something yeah there's a universality to it that people feel like they identify with in some way or they want to be a part of it maybe that's more for theater is that because you're in a room where it's happening like people want to be a part of something and feel like they identify with whatever story is being told or right right and it does feel cool to support too because then you're like it's the baltimore rock opera system yeah this is so weird baltimore's weird like i'm a part of this right i made a joke
Starting point is 00:43:14 about that on facebook and i uh i think people some like uh it was something about like people like go saying like oh it's not that good but you know we got to support we like supporting local artists i identified with that but it's a stupid it's not that good, but, you know, we got to support, we like supporting local artists. Yes, I identified with that. But it's a stupid, it's a stupid, like, because I was hanging out with comics, and we were saying, like, somebody closed the show with saying, thank you for supporting local comedy. It's, like, no one supports, they're just going because they have fun. If no one was having fun, you wouldn't go to something.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Like, you wouldn't come to your show or Gin and Jokes or anything. You definitely wouldn't be a repeat customer. Yeah, you don't, so that's the thing. Like, you wouldn't come to your show or Gin and Jokes or anything. You definitely wouldn't be a repeat customer. Yeah, you don't, so that's the thing, like, no one supports local whatever, they just support what they like.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah. And that should be the aim. It's like, so just make something great. Right. Make something good, yeah. And stop telling people, like, support local this
Starting point is 00:43:57 and that, because there's a lot of local shit that sucks. Yeah. Right, but I do think there are people who support local just because it's local.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I agree. Even if it's not good. I think that's an interesting person. Yeah. Yeah. I want to know what goes into it. Because some people think, like, this is how people start, and you've got to foster that. And it's usually other artists, probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 But you never know who's going to, like, make it big. So you just want to, like, support. You think that's what it is? I mean, I don't feel that way. I wonder. Just got to ride the coattails of everybody. Yeah, yeah. Just be nice to everybody. Just be be nice to everybody don't burn any bridges ever yeah which i was gonna say you guys look great today by the way stop hey dude they didn't book and they didn't book us so i'm not giving out
Starting point is 00:44:36 compliments well yeah i'm just kidding that's fair you guys look like thanks she already scared a man jesus she should be when she knows me. Just kidding. Oh, my gosh. No, you're a sweetheart. And you both look very nice. Okay. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. You can only compliment women on their looks. Yeah. Yeah, not their anything else. Not their personality. Their tiny brains.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Their talent. Nothing. Sandwich making skills, maybe. Oh, they don't do that anymore what i know it's crazy what yeah um all right so how many productions are you going to do this year do you already have it timed out yeah we do so at one night stand on saturday february 9th at fells point corner theater at 8 p.m we are going to talk about what we're doing the rest of the year okay so that'll be the sort of announcement day but we are going to do two other major projects this year okay yes we'll say are they going to be plays or one will be a festival of sorts yeah that we're hoping to get a lot of
Starting point is 00:45:36 different theater people involved in nice and then the other will be like a straight production which we haven't done in a while yeah just like one play one story that's already written yep yep so how does that work with plays can you just do any play like do you have to pay money to do that like get the rights so it depends on the play the play that we'll be doing our friend jen diamond who's a part of oh i love jen yeah she's great she's great she's a wonderful writer really she wrote this play about amelia Earhart and we're gonna be doing that yeah um so in that case like it's not a published piece yeah so we just sort of said to her we want to do it and she's like okay cool um so in that case like we're not paying any
Starting point is 00:46:17 money but if a play is published and it is represented by a royalties company you have to go pay royalties they're really expensive yeah and it depends on what kind of theater you are so if like we're considered a non-professional theater so like we pay a rate that is much lower than say center stage or every man would pay right right for a show could you get around it with just like punctuation like to kill a mockingbird like a question mark i think I think if we were doing it and we were not charging tickets, I think we could do it.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I think. Don't quote me on that. I think there are some shows that if you are not charging for a ticket, you don't have to pay that. Gotcha. Because then you're not making money. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:02 What money would they go after? Right. And then there are works like Shakespeare that are free. That are totally free. Yeah, exactly. What money would they go after? Right. And then there are works like Shakespeare that don't free. That are totally free. Oh, yeah. Because who gets that? Right. Royalty.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Exactly. Public domain. Yes. Yeah. Damn. All right. So that's one. So is that going to be part of the festival?
Starting point is 00:47:17 That's the one on its own. That's the one on its own. And you have to go to the show to find out which one that is. Yeah. Okay. I kind of just said it, though. No, she just said it. Amelia Earhart.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can edit that. It's about so much more, though. It's about so much more. So much more. Yeah. That's what the play is called. Amelia Earhart and so much more.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Exactly. Actually, they find her. Called it Tequila Mockingbird? That's the big thing. She comes out at the end. What's that? They find her. Jen found Amelia.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Remember, she went missing, right? Yeah, yeah. That's what happened. Right. She comes out at the end of the show she just wants to settle down and make sandwiches yeah she comes out with tupac and biggie yeah like we've just been chilling chill it yeah they're all on an island somewhere where the next fire festival so is your hub going to be the fells point corner theater i don't know they have been really kind to us though yeah i've seen other comics have like uh michael furr he did like a uh improv show that ran there for a while it's a good spot drew landry did shows there and then leah's i've never been yeah
Starting point is 00:48:15 little black box theater yeah it's nice um but yeah that's another thing with uh with like local art too is having the same place you know because Baltimore Improv Group used to have to move around all the time and people would be like oh where do you do improv it'd be like Fells Point Corner Theater and then sometimes we're at this and already they're tuned out
Starting point is 00:48:36 theater's interesting because I think people do associate it with a building and a space in addition to whatever you're actually producing yeah whereas like stand up like you go wherever yeah like you are just you but i will say i was just talking to our buddy in front of the pod ramin about this uh i think like having your own show is if you're trying to build a following and you're like at the level that we are you have to have your own show so like like we're talking about like our buddy jason weems is super funny but because he would just
Starting point is 00:49:10 pop into shows and kill he's like probably the one of the best comics around but uh his like his like i feel like his following isn't doesn't match his tat like he should have so many followers but if you don't stay in one place and build that where there's a place where people can just come and know that you're there
Starting point is 00:49:31 consistently, people, like, if they have to do work to find you, very little people do that. So I think that, like,
Starting point is 00:49:38 kind of, it's like, yeah, like, it's, I mean, it's hard enough to be like, follow me on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Exactly. You feel like a piece of shit, like, you know, like, handing out cards. Dude, yeah, I got cards made. Yeah, I need to do it. on Instagram. Exactly. You feel like a piece of shit, like handing out cards and stuff. Dude, yeah, I got cards made. Yeah, I need to do it.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I need to. I felt like such a piece of shit. But it works. It works, and people ask you, and you're like, ah, I don't have anything. I'm done. No big deal, guys. Oh. No big deal.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Designed it myself. No big deal. No big deal. Yeah, I got to do that. But for even stand-up that helps like if you can say like i do a show here every whatever yeah you can find me here absolutely yeah well then you're also you also kind of put yourself in a position of power right because you can book people and then people want to know you for that reason right exactly yeah and do you find that
Starting point is 00:50:21 with jenna jokes oh yeah i feel like having a show that's successful like if more people just know who you are and it like gives you a little bit of like i try not to do the i'll do you your show you do mine for a booking because a lot of people book me that i necessarily don't think that for it i don't know like? I don't know, like, you don't, I think that's like a, you just want to keep your. Brand. You just want to keep it, like, yeah, like, your brand, if you want to do a high quality show. Yeah. You keep it a high quality show, and then.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So, yeah, you got to say no. You got to tell people no. I, yeah, I actually reached out to another guy in D.C. I was like, dude, how do you tell people no? And our buddy Ramin said, he's like, I'll just straight up tell people you're not the caliber of comedian yet that I book. And I was like, dude, I could never say that to somebody. Well, it is kind of hopeful, though. It's like because he said that he had like a full like paragraph right now that he would like copy and paste, which is basically like, you're not there yet but i think you could be keep working at it if i hear about you
Starting point is 00:51:28 in a few months like doing well then i'll book you yeah so it's saying hope yeah exactly it's like no fucking way but maybe yeah so yeah and it's not like because there's plenty of shows that we want to do that we don't get on yeah and it's just like a lot of it is like you're just not right for that show or people don't know you or like maybe like, you haven't proven to that person. Yeah, they don't think of you in that way. And that's like, that's part of the game. I'm sure like, you guys do auditions, right? It feels like we're still talking about dating, though.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Oh, yeah. You know, maybe some people just, you're not. It's all the same thing. Nothing, you can't take it personally, right? But you do. Oh, yeah. Oh, because, because well especially for comedy oh my god yeah and acting like yeah the instrument is you yeah something's not right it feels really personal and every time like you fail it feels like the audience hates you right right that's but they don't no one gives a shit right they just hate your writing i guess sometimes it can feel like they hate you
Starting point is 00:52:25 in a play um i have like this really strong memory of being in a play in high school oh boy where um and of course i went to sabrina park high school so it's like very like everyone plays lacrosse yeah it's very yeah it's like lax bro yeah totally totally bro town and i was in a play with my friend aaron hanratty and we did it for like homecoming or something. So the whole school was there, and I had to touch her boob. Ooh. Ooh. What was the play?
Starting point is 00:52:53 And that was the reaction from everyone. Just like screaming like all these teenage boys. That's so tight. I mean, what do you expect of teenage boys? I mean, I'm 30 30 and i just had that reaction i was kidding though but yeah yeah but i'm 32 and i was not kidding but because it was like so controversial with the students they like banned doing like plays over a certain yeah and like you can't cuss in the plays anymore have you guys ever gotten like weird feedback
Starting point is 00:53:22 like unsolicited feedback because that happens to comics a lot i imagine that happens to you oh constantly oh yeah like like when you see them after the show see audience members that's like my least favorite part about anything that's dude everyone hates seeing people after it's awful it's always bad yeah because people don't know how to most people don't know how to say a compliment without being shitty it's very interesting or it can just like go too long too you don't know how to escape Mark Norman said that he's like
Starting point is 00:53:54 it's fine meeting people but it always just lasts seven minutes too long oh my god I just want a hi, hello, I think you're great and then just keep going like good show like oh thank you but dude but if you that's the thing you notice like if you hang around people who and like these people like aren't that famous like when judah like the kind of conversations
Starting point is 00:54:14 people want they really desperately want to make a connection yes and it's fucking sad to watch dude yeah like oh my god and it's just so awkward yeah dude hassan when i uh when i open it for hassan minaj people fucking love this guy like he is like beyond a comic yeah he's a celebrity at this point and i went to some meet and greet that he was at he was doing he came two hours late on purpose because he did not want to do it when he showed up you could just see him like oh god i don't want to do this and like girls like it was so awkward they just stood in a circle around him and at like telling him like you're beautiful you're like perfect fucking and then during a q a a girl she was like i don't have a question i just want to stare at you what like yeah but anyway so like what's some weird shit people have?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Like, do they critique you? Do they say, like... I don't like it. I like when they give, like, a critique. Really? Honestly, yeah. Like, I'm open to that. An audience member who doesn't act?
Starting point is 00:55:17 I think, yeah. I think now that, like, I run a company, like, I like hearing that kind of stuff. Oh, what people want to see. Yeah, yeah. But, like, what I don't like is when people are stuff what people want to see yeah yeah but like what i don't like is when people are like try to be overly nice but you can tell that like they hated it you know really yeah i don't like that like what uh just like it was good right and i know i know when i see something that i didn't like i'll either say that it was really fun or
Starting point is 00:55:42 it was really cute and so if people say that back to me i know that they're lying wow maybe or you're just projecting onto them a little bit right absolutely yeah but yeah yeah i well it's tough because it sounds like you want like market research of like did you actually yeah and i appreciate an honest opinion so when i can tell they're like just giving me bullshit i'd hate that yeah when your voice goes up a few octaves yeah like you guys did it yeah exactly i'm proud of you honestly that set was nice yeah last time i was at the improv uh i was handing out my cards because i brought some
Starting point is 00:56:25 these girls uh from the audience they're talking to me and another comic lafayette right and it was like kind of at that weird phase where it's like okay we like did the thing like all right see you later and then she was like hey i just want to say i'm really sorry about your friend dylan that died it's like a comic that died dc and i was just like yeah me too like why are we talking like here's my card though well i already gave like and this was like it was over yeah so it's like okay all right you can tell she felt bad too because i think she was just like trying to say something else relatable but we're both just like yeah that's uh oh well have a good night bye what a note to end on
Starting point is 00:57:06 the most morbid thing and then one time I was doing a show in western Maryland at the fucking casino out there and it's a nightmare it's really nice with the people there holy shit there's a comedy club called Bonkers and after the show
Starting point is 00:57:21 comedy is so stupid they are bonkers oh they're bonkers so fun after the show I was with the headliner Matt Bergman
Starting point is 00:57:34 and we were just standing there like saying bye to people and stuff and this woman comes walking up she has two Coca-Colas by the way
Starting point is 00:57:41 and like comes like saddling like up to the table and Matt in his set said he lives somewhere in virginia and she's like do you really live there he's like yeah yeah she's like oh yeah i'm around there he's like oh okay cool thanks for coming to the show i like thought it was just like all right she's like yeah just kind of stands there and she goes uh chinese are kind of taking
Starting point is 00:58:01 over around there aren't they and we're like holy shit like why did you have to say that? It's so awkward. That's so funny dude. Chinese? Not Chinese. I've been lucky these last couple weeks
Starting point is 00:58:12 no one said anything but almost always after shows. I can see it's like a brown comic you might get some stuff. One time I'm a gooby somebody said
Starting point is 00:58:20 you're funny for a brown guy which is like what the fuck does that even mean? Right. Yeah. That's a weird guy. Oh, no. Which is like, what the fuck does that even mean? Right. Yeah. That's a weird thing to say. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:28 But I think. Honestly, I was just trying to be complimentary when I said that. Hey, I'm sorry for a moment. I thought I took it the wrong way. It's tough at my goobies. You never know when someone is racist or not. Nope. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Timonium. Yeah. Damn. All right. Should we wrap it up? Are we good? I think so. Is there anything else you guys want to plug?
Starting point is 00:58:46 No Oh wait Plug the date again Yeah Saturday Yeah Saturday February 9th
Starting point is 00:58:52 8pm Fells Point Corner Theater If you search in Terror Bank Baltimore You'll find us Facebook, Twitter, Instagram We have a Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:59 Yeah we have a website Yeah just send it to me Yeah yeah Also if you come earlier We have a band playing. And they'll be playing before we start. Who's the band? They're called Forks.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Forks. Nice. F-O-R-X. How'd you find them? Take that, Spoon. Friends. Nice. Tight.
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Starting point is 00:59:25 Gin and Jokes. Only 20 tickets left. Pow. Yeah, and thank you guys for being on the show. Thank you. And Eric, hey, thanks for the lavalier mic. Thanks, Eric. No, boomer shit sounds okay.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Shout out live from the studio. Oh, follow Devin. We got Jay Larson on the next episode. Oh, cool. That's tight. You guys have hacks on your podcast? Oh, that's cool. Jay Larson. That's cool. We have actual real local talent. So, cool. You guys have hacks on your podcast? Oh, that's cool. Jay Larson.
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