The Digression Sessions - Ep. 276 - Interrobang Theatre Company!
Episode Date: February 4, 2019Hola Digheads, on this week's episode, Josh and Umar sit down with their old friends Katie Hileman and Kiirstn Pagan of The Interrobang Theatre Company! See their show, One Night Stand, on Febr...uary 9th in Baltimore! The show is a one-night-only cabaret. It's a celebration of love, sex, dating, and Interrobang’s great comeback to the Baltimore theatre scene. Interrobang want to challenge the theatre community and themselves to be more creative than they were yesterday through the production and development of new plays written, designed, and performed by Baltimore artists. Follow the podcast and Josh Kuderna and Umar Khan, on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram! Josh - @JoshKuderna on Twitter and @JoshKuderna on Instagram The Pod - @DigSeshPod on Twitter The Pod's Facebook page - Dig Sesh on Facebook Thanks for listening, all! Do the pod a favor and rate and review the pod on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Laughable, Stitcher, & Spotify plz!
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TAGE NETWORK
That's a Gotti.
Yeah, Umar has a lavalier mic on.
Is that what it's named? A lav is short for lavalier?
Yeah.
Just to make sure you remember.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
So yeah, so when Umar goes to the bathroom and i admit all the
murders yeah well you fooled him all right we're here you're using your hands i know umar's hands
free so yeah when you were when you didn't have a mic either it was so funny to watch you use
your hands because you're like, I'm a school psychologist. I don't know what to do.
Yeah.
It changes things.
Wow, interesting.
Yeah.
Because you always have the mic, you know.
All right.
Yeah.
It feels weird not seeing you hold a microphone.
It feels weird.
Do you want to hold something?
No.
Just use the can.
He's got his Waterloo.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hold the can to your face.
The whole time. Yeah, it's a good look. It's a good look. We got some guests on the show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold the can to your face. The whole time.
Yeah, it's a good look.
It's a good look.
We got some guests on the show.
Yes, we do.
Old friends.
Old friends.
So old.
Plug in a theater of theirs.
We got Kirsten Pagan.
Woo!
Katie Howman.
Woo!
Welcome.
On the cast.
Plug in the Interrobang Theater.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah.
Thanks for having us.
Yay!
Of course, of course so uh yeah what
what exactly you're promoting here okay we're doing a show called one night stand oh i know
sexy little risky sexy um it's a variety show uh like nights on the fringe like oh cool yeah
oh that's cool are you having comedians on
or
really
yeah yeah
you guys got
you know that right
no
what
tell me about that
that's interesting
you didn't ask us to do the show
I think they're looking for the broads
oh
yeah
yeah
they're very pretty
Jesus
as I slip
we've got Violet Gray
you've probably heard of her
nice
Jessica Murphy Garrett
tight
yeah
nice and then uh some
drag queens okay and some drag kings wow yeah one who uses the hashtag beards and titties all the
time oh my god king of beards and titties wait what's the name of the drag king king yeah there
are two one is black dynamite oh and the other is magic dyke oh my god magic dyke
right i feel like they always have some type of pun like that right oh yeah yeah they're always
a beer baron i'll be like yeah instead of magic mike i get it yeah yeah you got it i think oh i
didn't get that yeah i know really yeah and then uh he dances to pony so oh my god it makes sense right katie you're gonna
have to like glue that to the bottom of your or just your lips yeah you gotta keep it on there
yeah and uh when is this all happening saturday february 9th wow where 8 p.m fells point corner
theater oh my god you know what's that space like i've never been there it's cute yeah there are two
spaces there's an upstairs and downstairs downstairs which is like i don't know a 90 seat proscenium theater yeah
little black box theater big used to do shows there yeah oh all right and uh it's just like
a fundraising show for interrobang you know i burped i do these things i've built so I'm drinking a fizzy water
I'm moved on to Waterloo
instead of LaCroix
I just like them better
you didn't have to flex on them so hard
I'm just saying bro
LaCroix is fucking wack
it's a little more expensive
but the cans are nicer
I feel like
all you need to do to sell products
to people like us now is just make it look a little old-timey.
That's how all that soap, the Meyers soap, that's the only reason people reach for a Meyers.
This looks organic, and it's just bullshit.
It's the same stuff.
It's all chemicals.
But it's vintage.
I know.
It's the label.
And then now everyone has it in their bathrooms.
Like all my friends, every restaurant, like a coffee shop, whatever type place.
It's very interesting.
They get you, you know?
Yeah.
It's almost like we all have a hipster bullshit aesthetic.
There you go.
Interesting.
That's real.
That's real.
Interesting.
What were we talking about?
I don't even remember.
The show.
The show.
The fundraiser show sorry it is also like
we didn't produce for the last year because we were all just kind of going through it i went to
grad school you went to grad school i went to grad school where you went to south africa and i was in
africa which is like america's not good enough for you yeah no i uh. What? Wow. Wow. I don't know.
People are going to go to your show now.
Yeah.
It was just nice because it was really warm there.
Yeah.
That's pretty much it.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
We can't compete with that.
That's fair.
How about the racism?
Lots of racism.
Nice.
Here or Africa?
Both.
Okay.
More here, though, right?
Yes, more here.
For real?
More here?
Hold on.
They just ended. Apartheid was the 90s
right so yeah but you can tell that they're like really making an effort to like figure their shit
out whereas like here i feel like no one is trying to figure it out really yeah true you know i feel
that's like a controversial opinion yeah in my opinion people are gonna build a wall in front of your show yeah unbelievable
never anyway so you guys were going through it and then so now you guys are trying to get back
into producing some theater some local theater yeah yeah so everyone is like in a place i think
where we felt comfortable producing again so this is like the first step out for like after a year
nice yeah so it's like a little step out for like after a year nice yeah
so it's like a little bit of a fundraiser too we'll be asking people to donate for 501c3
non-profit yeah always asking for donations okay yeah very npr there for a second
yeah do i sound like iverglass yeah yeah an interbang tote bag with every tote bags. Oh, I love totes. We should do tote bags.
Mugs. T-shirts.
Hats. We do have T-shirts. We do.
I will say, I feel like you can't have
enough tote bags. Really?
They just go missing or you
leave them at people's houses.
Dude, so whenever I see totes, I take them.
That's one thing I'm
fine with having around. We have too many totes, I think.
You have too many?
Yeah.
Wow.
Share the wealth, bro.
Yeah.
I think nine is a good number.
Karen bought so much shit at Trader Joe's the other day, they gave her a free tote bag.
What?
Wow.
Yeah.
How much stuff did she buy?
Too much.
Jeez.
Too much.
Were you annoyed?
I wasn't thrilled about it.
I was like, $100 tote bag. I don't know if it's worth it, you annoyed? I wasn't thrilled about it. I was like, a $100 tote bag.
I don't know if it's worth it.
You know?
I feel like when I go grocery shopping at Trader Joe's, it's...
And that's their whole scheme.
They put out things.
They want you to walk past something and just be like, yeah, I'll try this.
That's their thing.
That's like any grocery store.
No. something just be like yeah i'll try this like that's that's her thing i like any grocery store no well i listen to i listen i listen to a whole podcast a freakonomics podcast on trainer joe's
freakonomics oh and it was it was like so insane it's the most successful grocery store yeah and
they do no advertising and and interesting they they do i guess they send out their like newsletter
thingy like like, but
that's pretty much it.
Yeah.
And then they're like, most grocery stores have all these options and Trader Joe's is
like, nah, we don't want to, well, it's just all their own shit.
Like that.
But also it's a very limited amount.
So like, uh, they've, they follow like researchers have done these studies where like if there's
too much choice, then your brain just kind of shuts down.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
So if you have a limited amount of options, you're more likely to buy something.
And so that's why they're so successful.
I can see that.
And I feel like that's, like, you know, you guys are going for it.
You're not like, we'll put on just a couple shows a year.
That's true.
It is, like, much less overwhelming from a marketing standpoint.
Yeah.
Like, we don't have to talk all that often.
You're just tricking people into going. Yeah. Well, yeah we're trying don't miss them always right yeah you know how that is right yes of course
tricking people absolutely yes we're all collectors here yeah never performing yeah
only once or twice a year once or twice i'm like i'm doing that four minutes tonight be there
not happening again till the next summer solstice. Hot commodity.
Yeah, exactly.
So do you guys like,
you guys write your own,
who writes,
do you guys like,
do you guys like
write your own shows?
We have.
So for One Night Stand,
Katie wrote a show.
I did.
About me.
I did.
I wrote a play about Kirsten.
About?
And guess what it's called.
Oh, let me guess.
Bitch.
Close.
Okay.
It's called chlamydia.
Ooh, you got chlamydia?
Yeah.
Wow.
Can we talk about this?
Absolutely.
Nice.
I got an STD before also.
What was it?
Cool.
Was it chlamydia?
No.
Wait a minute.
Did you guys both get it at Trader Joe's?
Yeah.
We traded.
It was on sale.
I had to clap.
What was I going to do?
Wow.
You got chlamydia.
In the last... In the fall. In the. You got chlamydia in the last.
In the fall.
In the fall.
Or I found out in the fall.
Yeah, really.
Did you have to call people and be like, hey, by the way.
Yeah, so that's sort of the crux of the play.
So I told.
So you're like, hey, by the way, you gave me the clap.
I didn't give it to you.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did not bode well.
Yeah.
Right.
So I told Katie about it it and she was like oh you
should just have a party where you invite everyone and just tell them all together yeah and then i
was like oh that would make for a really great play wow and then the play funny yeah the play
didn't end up being that way no it's like how to describe it in a short the play is really more about Tinder and kind of like how stupid boys are on Tinder.
Oh, boy.
Let's get into it.
So I have like actual screenshots of like real conversations that like men try to have
on Tinder.
And that becomes the text of the men in the play.
Wow.
Gotcha.
From actual Tinder messages.
Yes.
Some of them are mine.
Yeah.
God.
Can you share a good life oh yeah
the messages okay so the one that's featured in the play i'll like touch on a little bit
without giving it away i matched with a guy and two hours later we started chatting yeah and now
did you message him or did he message you he messaged me wow oh cocky your profile read i don't have chlamydia what up yeah yeah i did but
i took care of it two pills um yeah that's all it is i know easy peasy oh you know i've never had
like i i had a weird one mine lasted for seven months by the way a weird one oh i didn't tell
anyone i was like uh yeah i was gonna say this is the first time I'm hearing of it.
I was 20...
It's a person radio.
I think, yeah.
I was 22, and I got this thing.
I was hooking up with some Goucher college chick.
I hooked up with a lot of Goucher chicks.
But I met this one on OkCupid, because Tinder wasn't a thing yet.
And anyway, and she was like...
She had some book on polyamory, so she was
like a radical chick.
Sure. And so I guess she was
sleeping around a lot. And anyway,
but then I got in another relationship
and I found these
white dots all over
my
pubic region. I remember this.
Yeah. And I was like, oh my god so i went to some so
you did tell people maybe but i i didn't like i feel like i'm more you didn't talk about on a
podcast yeah i don't think i talked about on the podcast but i uh so i went to a doctor at patient
first and and he was like and i have a bias against foreign doctors. Like, I just don't trust foreign, medically trained foreign people.
I just don't.
And I recently took, I went to a microaggression training at work,
and that was one of the questions.
Just so you could microaggress harder?
Yeah, well, it was like, how comfortable are you, would you be?
Where did you get your degree?
How comfortable would you be if you were seeing a doctor That was trained in India
And I said
Oh
God damn it
What Omar said was so controversial
We had to bleep it out
It's happened so much
We gotta open a door or a window
Eric, my other roomie's cooking
Give him the bacon
Is his idea the vent on?
Nah, I didn't want to turn it on
It's probably the shorter one.
Yeah,
the longer one's always the light.
Is that true?
FYI.
Yeah,
the vents,
it's too loud.
Okay.
I don't know,
would the vent pick up in her mic?
It's probably not better
than the fucking alarm.
Anyway,
I went to this doctor
and he was like,
you know,
he sounded weird
and he wasn't from here,
obviously.
And he was just like,
I'm so lucky that you're saying this. Oh, yeah, I know.'t from here, obviously. And he was just like. We're so lucky that you're saying this.
Oh, yeah, I know.
People are like.
Yeah, I'm sweating.
He also, like, I just think he didn't want to.
That's the fire in this, Eric.
But I also think he, like, just did not want to look at my dick, you know.
Like, it was weird because I was like, do you want to see it?
And he's like, ah, you're probably fine.
I'm like, yeah, but I would.
What?
It was weird.
I just remember having to convince this guy to look. It was like I'm on a date or something. He's like, I'm going to look, but no hom know. It was weird. I just remember having to convince this guy to look.
It was like I'm on a date or something.
He's like, I'm going to look, but no homo, dog.
Yeah.
Because he was like, all your blood work came from.
I'm like, yeah, but it's on my skin.
He's like, ah.
And then so he was just like, all right.
And then so he did this move where he just kind of was like, OK.
Like with the hand, he just gestured.
Like, get out.
All right, move your.
Yeah, he seems like a reluctant stepdad or something.
He's like, I'm not really your dad.
And he looked.
He didn't even look directly at it.
He looked at it, like, from the side.
Like, at a glance, he was just like, ah, it's just razor bumps.
And I'm like.
Yeah.
And then I was like, all right, the doctor said they're razor bumps.
I believed him.
And it just didn't go away.
So then I went to a dermatologist.
And this fucking fucking i can't
believe i've never told this story because i went to the dermatologist i've never been to a
dermatologist and now i have to go because i have something like on my dick and so the receptionist
this cute ass blonde girl's like hey i know you right and i'm like and they know why I'm there like they must know
cause it must like they
probably on your chart yeah and she's like
no but where have we met and I was like
I don't know who knows
and she's like where did you go to
high school and I was like and I'm like
I don't want to do this game with you right now
so I'm just like I like
I was just like I think I lied
and said I went to a different
high school than the one i actually went to and she's like i'll figure it out before you leave
i was like please don't oh god and then so i'm so then i'm sitting and i go back and then this
lady's like the lady who took me back the nurse is like asking about me my symptoms and then she's
like oh by the way uh the doctor he just just has some, like, he trains, like, medical students.
And so she just told me.
I don't think she asked me if it was okay.
And this room is tiny, dude.
It's, like, as big as, like, my living room, which the listeners don't know.
Oh, wow.
Just picture it.
Eight by 12?
That's it?
It's a small office in walk
literally 7
medical students and then
the doctor's like look at how
fucked up this dick is
and then so then he looks at my dick he's like
oh yeah that's
molluscum contagiosum
that's what it's called it sounds like
a Harry Potter thing
that's fucking gross and he it sounds like a harry potter thing yeah that's uh fucking
a gross and he was like you got that from someone i was like oh my god i'm freaking out and he's
like yeah yeah guys everyone looks so then everyone's just like peeking in how small is
your dick at this point it's so small like an audi belly button would be bigger than my dick
so tiny it's so small in my body and i'd just be a little baby it's it's so bad it's so tiny. It's so small. My balls would be in my body, and I'd just be a little baby.
It's so bad.
It's like, yeah, and so they're all, like, leaning in, like, oh, okay, okay.
And I'm just like.
One girl pukes.
Yeah.
And it's just like, there's nothing, like, you can say in that moment, right?
You just, like, sit there, and you're like, all right, I have an STD, a small dick.
Gina jokes, first Thursday of the month.
There you go. I was not funny at this point. and you're like, all right, I have an STD, a small dick. Do the jokes, first Thursday of the month.
There you go.
So hot blooded.
I was not funny at this point.
And yeah,
that was my,
and then so he gave it.
So you had it for seven months.
Yeah,
so he was like,
the best way,
he's like,
I could freeze it off
but it'll probably just come back.
And he said,
a lot of times like,
like kids get this
just from crawling around
and from each other
and they get it on their arms
and shit
and once,
if you get it once, you never get it again. It's like chicken like chicken pox so he's like so you've probably never gotten it wait wait wait so what what did you have it's called molluscum
contagios oh i thought you had the clap so that's not no no no i thought that was like the name for
it or something like that and and so it's just like these little they look like warts but they
come once and then they're they'll never come back whoa and they're super
contagious that's why the name is that and so uh i had to he was like the best way to get rid of it
is put this cream on it and essentially it's like this like acid what it's some chemical thing that
like it literally burns them off of your skin right so it turns into these huge fucking scabs
and they fall off eventually and they like
they fucking bleed and it's like
terrible and it took I had to do that
twice because they came back
oh and then Evan
my roommate he got the same
thing and he said the doctor just froze them
off and they never came back I was like
motherfucker yeah
yeah cause I got a planters ward on my foot
and that's what they had to do
is basically like freeze it yeah so and i wore condoms oh such a bummer anyways tell us your
chlamydia story well that sounds worse than chlamydia yeah it's not that bad it's not yeah
i mean i mean it can kill you right if it goes undet, that's syphilis. Yeah, syphilis goes to your brain.
It makes a beeline for your brain.
But chlamydia,
if it's untreated,
I think just in women,
it can damage your reproductive system.
Okay.
Yeah, but you're not using that anyway.
Right.
Better off.
Right, so I just went for an annual
and I had the regular tests
and then I got a call a few days later from my regular doctor to say like, well, you know, when I call, it's
never good.
So I'm just going to cut right to it.
You're a big slut.
She's very nice.
Not good.
Not good.
You're a slut.
Wow.
Yeah.
And so.
I mean, she was pretty like, I don't know.
How cool can a doctor be about it?
Like she was very nice about it.
Yeah.
It's not a big deal.
Right.
Gave me the prescription, picked it up.
But then she told me, like, yeah, I should tell my sexual partners.
Oh, partners.
Multiple.
Well, she assumed.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
And then so you did that.
And I did that.
How many people did you have?
You don't have to actually say.
I told three. Wow. And did they have you don't have to actually say i i told three
wow and did they have it and she didn't tell the other 13 she only told her top three yeah so
men have symptoms right like men yeah have symptoms but women can go symptom free for a
while yeah i had no symptoms i had no idea wow that's sick dude just keep
burping i can't help it i have gi problems it's a good way to respond to an std conversation
oh my god katie have you ever had an std no i have not uh by the end of this podcast i know
you're making it sound really appealing nothing good good. It smells weird. It's a,
what did you call it?
Sticky.
Moluscom contagioso.
Moluscom.
Oh yeah.
Evan.
When I told Evan,
my roommate,
he was like the first time,
this was like almost 10 years ago.
Now he's like,
Oh,
you had the musk too,
bro.
That should be the name of the pod, the musk.
The musk.
Yeah.
A girl that I work with, she was like, have you ever gotten a cold sore on your lip?
I was like, no, not really.
She's like, oh, I just got my first one, and it's like right here.
It's like, ooh.
Yeah.
I'd be like, you're with baby herpes.
I've never gotten a cold sore on my lips either, too.
That's very common, right?
Oh, yeah. It's herpes, technically. I've never had that. I don't think I have. Like on your lip. I've never gotten a cold sore on my lips either, dude. That's very common, right? Oh, yeah.
It's herpes, technically.
I've never had that.
I don't think I have.
Like, on your lips.
Yeah.
Woof.
No.
And I don't see them that often either.
But people say, like, almost, this is like one in three people have herpes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, technically.
God.
Chicken pox is, like, a herpes strain.
Yeah.
Technically, so.
That's my favorite uh our
buddy nick mullen uh comtown fame he did a baltimore podcast where he he used to be like
a big drunk and uh did you listen to this podcast there's a podcast though where uh i can't remember
who it was some sidebar guys would do it and he talked about getting herpes and warts so thick mullet has
herpes and warts like how gnarly is that like you have to explain that to every sexual partner oh
yeah yeah that's a bummer well yeah on the podcast they asked him too like did you did you tell your
mom about me no so did you did anyone like make you feel bad
Or anything or were the dudes pretty cool about it
Um one guy made me feel kind of bad
About it
But like not
Such a basic thing like take a couple pills
But it's also like you fucked someone without a condom dude
Well so what happened
Right well so what happened was
Um
Uh it wasn't like he made me feel bad about it
But like he just got really defensive about it As if to say like it wasn't me it wasn't me But I wasn't like he made me feel bad about it but like he just got really defensive about it
as if to say like it wasn't me
but I wasn't
inferring that and so I was like
okay
it's okay
you consoling him
you just like that's his approval
that's what it turned into
and then I guess the other thing too was that
and I'm not totally clear on what the exact timing of everything was but when I told him that I what it turned into and then I guess the other thing too was that and I'm not totally clear on what the exact
timing of everything was but when I told him that I had
it his reaction was oh yeah
yeah me too
wow probably him right
I cannot say
to be honest but like
not like I cannot say on the podcast but like I don't
right
but it was just like not
it didn't feel good yeah and like we have since
like kind of made up about it and like it's all good and i think we understand each other and
it's fine but um the initial the initial conversation was just like oh rough and he
knew for a week and didn't tell you i think i don't know he went back and said it was not that
long but in any case he knew before right yeah yeah that is a tough uh what's the
move what's the move like you the responsible move is to call people but if you yeah i don't
know you're like you'll figure it out which is shitty but i i can see why people that's what
most people do right most people do that most people probably don't call. It's not good. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, you don't want to have a lady lose her reproductive.
Yeah, it falls out.
Yeah.
I don't think that's what it is.
No, it doesn't fall out.
But fuck everything.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It could be bad.
So then you wrote a play around this.
Yeah, and it has that confrontation.
Wow.
Is it a one-act play?
Yeah, a short play.
It's like 20 minutes long.
Okay.
I wrote it for my playwriting class last semester.
Oh, nice.
And everyone really liked it a lot.
Oh, sweet.
So we're going to do it again for more people.
It's road-tested.
Yeah.
Yes.
I like that.
Of course.
All right.
But the other thing that was really fun about it, one of the Tinder conversations that made
it in, I started to say this.
Yeah.
So I was talking to this guy.
We had matched.
And like two hours later, we started chatting.
He just kept sending these monologues of text.
I would give a really small prompt.
What brings you to Tinder?
What is your dating life?
What brings you to Tinder?
I can see how you had sex with three guys.
Your game is strong.
Very good. Don't have to try it with three guys. Your game is strong. Very good.
Don't have to try it, you guys.
And he would just launch into these monologues,
and in one of them, he went on a diatribe about how he's a complicated man.
He's constantly objectified.
Yeah, for his body, because he's a male mom.
Did you fuck this guy?
No. I was going to say. Did you fuck this guy? No.
No, no, no, no.
I was going to say.
It didn't go beyond this conversation.
It's like, I made love to him.
Excuse me?
Excuse me?
We traded syphilis.
Excuse me?
Yeah, it was cool.
Anyway, so he gave you these monologues.
Yeah, and at one point, he compared himself to Kanye West.
He said, I think, quote, I relate to Kanye on many levels.
Oh, my God.
Many.
Nice.
Nice.
Not just one.
No, no.
Lots of them.
He's a complex character.
Wow.
But, yeah, so he, like, threw that out there, just like, oh, woe is me.
I'm so beautiful.
It's such a bummer.
Yes, literally.
With me just asking, like, you know, what's your dating life been like?
Yeah.
And, like, that's what he launched into.
He's like, honestly, not easy.
All the chicks get, like, so wet for me.
And it's like, talk to me first.
You know?
Get to know me.
Life is hard.
Truly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so crazy.
Like, does that work on anyone, you think?
I can't imagine.
Probably.
If there's a chick that's just like, all right, you're hot.
I'll hook up with you.
You know?
Yeah.
Because this is a, it's like a problem.
Like guys on these dating sites.
But then it's like, are these people who are on the spectrum?
Like, you know what I mean?
So I think that's where my mind goes to.
Because to have that lack of awareness with the social interaction, like that you are coming across as a complete douchebag or just not so weird or nuts yeah that's that
makes me think off it like you can be high functioning on a reality show autistic you
know what i mean because it's like that's just kind of the vibe and that's like a lot of what
instagram is too that's true yeah but it's it does seem to be like it's a it's like there's like a big portion of men who just don't understand
like when like the things they say to women is like either gross harassment or just stupid like
it makes you look stupid yeah yeah you know yeah i can't imagine the amount of shit that women get
like pearl post a lot of that stuff in her stories a friend of ours comic she was saying
last night that she was like waiting uh at a train station and a guy was like with his son
and hitting on her you know like can i just sit and wait for the train oh dude uh uh like uh kids
dads who are single hit will just hit on teachers as if they're on the street catcalling it's insanity
for like a pta thing you know just during the school day because some teachers are like so
fucking hot and uh oh but that's the thing like that's the difference like even like
like me and my friends like i was just listening to like a podcast where these two comics were
saying like it's it must suck to be a woman.
Because, like, this woman was taking this comic around the gallery.
And she was being so nice and explaining every piece of art to him.
And he was like, you know, like, he's like, I know how much it sucks.
Because my wife is a touring female comedian.
And she gets shit all the time.
But, like, I still have these impulses.
Like, the whole time she's talking to me, I'm just picturing myself fucking her. And, like, I do that all the time but like i still have these impulses like the whole time she's talking to me i'm just picturing myself fucking her and like i do that all the time and i feel like i'm a guy who like
is woke not woke but like it like so like i suppress those urges you're aware but
we're just wired that way i think and some guys just let it run loose maybe i don't know right
you think like I feel like.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Every guy is like that.
I think we're wired.
It's not an excuse.
But some guys, I guess, just don't know how to, like.
Curb it.
Curb it, yeah.
Or care.
Or care, yeah.
So then it gets mixed with being, like, super narcissistic and superficial.
And you're like, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is what I'm into.
Yeah.
And then also with Tinder, you must be like, somebody's going to fucking like this.
I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. A hundred people I match with. I can into. Yeah, and then also with Tinder, you must be like, somebody's going to fucking like this. I don't know.
I don't know, 100 people I match with.
I can't.
It's just crazy.
I feel like these are the guys that are like, they're single,
they pay for sex, and then they hate women
because they don't understand what they're doing, what's wrong.
Well, they don't see them as human either.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like a conquest kind of thing yeah yeah so oh boy
not like me and umi's very woke we're so yeah we respect modern gentlemen yeah
did you guys meet your significant others on the dating app no nope no i've never used the dating
app wow monogamy yeah i've only had one serious relationship on a dating app but every
other i meet like like i met my current girl my girlfriend saying current girlfriend sounds bad
yeah it's like for right now right now thank god she does not listen to this
it's like what do i do right now i mean passion yeah she'll ask me i'm gonna start going to night
school she'll ask me like every time she's like do you did you talk about me because then she'll listen
so i'm like baby uh no i met her at a cookout my carol do that too cool yeah but she had a
boyfriend at the time but they were like but they were on the outs and i did like the creepy move
where like i found her on facebook I don't think that's creepy
yeah I guess it's not
what did you do
we were all hanging out
I got her and her friend
to play me and my friend in a game of
we throw the bean bags
cornhole
and
which is already sexy
yeah right
and me and Karen were just vibing
where i was making her laugh she was making me laugh beanbags and holes we were uh yeah it was
funny because she's older than me and when i asked her her age because she doesn't look
her age she was like i'm 37 i was like the first wheelchair you're like that's fine i think it made sense in contact
oh because she didn't want to tell me her age i was like tell me your age that's okay
yeah i was like that's okay yeah she didn't want to tell you yeah yeah i was trying to like tell
her okay but you don't need a fucking 20-some-year-old piece of shit telling you that.
And then I messaged her on Facebook, and I was like, hey, we should grab whatever.
And she was like, ah, I'm seeing somebody.
And then I was like, okay.
And then she just, like, a couple months later, she was coming to shows, and I was like, I feel like this chick is single now.
And I asked her out, yeah.
Yeah. And she, we hung out once, and I was like i feel like this chick is single now yeah yeah and she we hung out once and i was like is this a date and she's like i'm still kind of seeing this guy it's not totally over and
i was like oh that's weird anyway and then now we're dating you're like that's okay that happens
suck your pants off yeah that's okay what about you guys are you guys seeing people
yeah yeah online kirsten's playing the field yeah how's
that going because you were not single for a long time a really long time i think that's why like
i'm on the apps and everything now because i didn't before it's i think it's good yeah yeah
it can be fun it can be overwhelming so it like i go through phases where i turn off all the
notifications and like don't look for a while and then like
right bored and i mean it is a game like there's a game oh yeah and like that's fun and satisfying
just the swiping without like any conversation people you know because this town's so tiny yeah
yeah that's always fun oh yeah yeah i try to do the dating apps but i don't get past like
hello how are you because i'm like I am not ready
for whatever they're going to say
is it gnarly
well just like now then like hearing all of
Kirsten's stories and like just
everyone's stories it just seems like
really gross and scary
yeah but I don't know how
else to like meet guys you know what I
mean like it's like what you do now
unless I can go to like a cookout and someone someone to play cornhole i think we're lucky because like we're out i think
we're out more than the average person that's true well you two especially yeah meeting people
yeah i mean obviously you're not single now i think it is the worst way to be yeah i met
karen at a show yeah yeah yeah i I've dated Too many people
From shows
And it feels weird
Yeah not good
Not good
You gotta know
Shit and where to eat
Yeah
Oh no
Dude and it's crazy
Cause a lot of them
Still come
And then Stav
Was making fun of me
He was like
Dude that's how much
You didn't matter
In their life
He's like
That's how shitty
Your dick is
That they're bringing
Another guy to your show
i thought that was so funny like he's like you're so not threatening dude right you mean nothing
yeah damn so but it's going good are you seeing like someone or multiple people
um yeah there are some people who have been more consistent but like it's nothing serious and then you know new people that's
i think that's a problem it's like there's you're always looking for something else right it feels
like especially because they because of the apps it feels like there are 10 000 other options
right like so if someone doesn't check every box you're like well i think it comes back to the
choices because there's so many choices now like right available at your fingertips that you think like so if someone doesn't check every box you're like well i think it comes back to the choices
because there's so many choices now like right available at your fingertips that you think you're
missing out right yeah got that fomo yeah yeah because i had that for a long time i was like
i was juggling like way too many women at one time and i was just like this player i'm not bragging
but i'm just dude i was like i did not
get laid for so long in life i didn't get laid all through college right yeah like and uh no one
wanted to talk to me and now you know it's it's nice yeah see when you get i mean i yeah i was in
a relationship for a long time and so like now that i'm on the other side, I'm like, let's get it. Yeah. Oh, my God.
I wish people could have seen her face.
Damn, someone is thirsty.
That's so tight.
Getting it.
Yeah, it is really interesting to have a perspective, like, a woman's perspective of the dating apps.
Because for guys, it's just like, oh, women, like, message and then just fall off.
Because that happens a lot.
Like, we're talking and then it's just like
you ask them out
they're like
I'm just here for fun
I'm like what the fuck
are you doing
you're wasting my time
there's so many options
yeah I know
but guys do that too
I think
oh for real
like you'll be talking
back and forth
and like I'll ask a question
and then the conversation
will just go away
ghost
yeah
it's not even a ghost
at that point
I feel like
like it's just
I don't know
because we never met right you know like they weren't a real person right it's micro ghost how do you
guys feel about ghosting like let's say you go on three dates yeah how do you feel and then one of
them gives and then he just stops like i welcome to so i say if it's three dates or under a ghost
is okay like maybe a ghost never feels good even after one date.
Seems like three would be the max.
I wouldn't be mad about it.
I'm like not cool with it.
At all? Yeah I think it's shitty.
It is shitty. It's definitely the easy
way out. But how much do you owe
somebody? You don't owe anybody
anything ever. I agree with that.
But it is courteous. For sure.
Yes and it's a more polite society. I'm all about politeness it is courteous for sure yes and it would be it's a
more polite society i'm all about politeness and courteousness but you politely tell me
okay but use your man i struggle with this like would you feel okay if if someone was just like
you know what uh i didn't feel anything we should part our like that we should
part ways or like i don't need another date like that you don't like that that's your worst fear
i don't know i personally wouldn't care if someone said that to me but to say that to someone oh yeah
it sounds it's i feel like a lot of people say something along those lines like maybe it's a
little bit inferred but they say something else
like i think i maybe stepped out too early here like i'm not really into dating it's not you it's
me it's all yeah i hate that because that's everyone's go-to and everyone's like i just
got out of something but again what are you gonna be like i think you're fucking ugly i don't know
like you're not you know what can you say Ooh, has that happened? Because that's Guy's number one complaint.
Is what?
Girls are ugly?
Girls are ugly.
You guys heard about this?
No.
That's a thing?
That's a thing?
Ugly?
Who is it?
Hampton Young did that joke on Conan where he said, like, girls, because, like, worry
about online dating is they're going gonna get murdered and the guys is
just like oh i hope she's not ugly you know or that she doesn't look like her pictures yeah has
that happened to you with dudes i feel like it's harder for dudes to do that because of like makeup
and we don't wear makeup and shit yeah i guess you could post an old picture you could put yeah
but like i don't know all of my pictures are recent like taken within the last year
no not you i know i. I'm just saying.
Oh my God.
But like, I know.
I told you you're ugly.
No, but like I worry about it.
Why did you do a headshot from 1999?
But like I worry about it.
Because like my pictures,
I don't know,
like my pictures are,
like I'm a photographer,
so a lot of my pictures
are like picture pictures,
you know?
And so I worry that people
will see me in person
and be like.
You're the least photographer ever.
I know.
What do I do?
I take picture pictures.
I'm a professional professional.
Apropos.
Yeah.
Hire me.
Hire me.
But I worry then that people will be like,
Oh,
she doesn't look like that.
Cause your pictures are too nice.
Yeah.
They're like,
they're not just cell phone pictures.
People know.
That was a,
that was the number one critique I got from people. They're like, what the pictures. People know. That was the number one critique
I got from people. They're like, what the fuck are you
using headshots? Don't use headshots.
Your pictures were too nice.
They look too curated.
People want to see you out with friends
and doing stuff that other people do
because otherwise you could look...
It just makes you look phony.
Yeah, you look too full of yourself.
Yeah.
Don't use headshots, Katie. Yeah. Yeah. Huh.
Yeah. Yeah.
I can see that.
It would be like a little aggressive.
Very helpful advice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look normal, but great.
You know, you can just do both of those things.
Absolutely.
Take a professional picture without it looking professional.
Yeah.
You know, that's the way to do it.
Cool.
So I've never been told, yeah, that I was fucking ugly and like.
That's not.
My question was, did you show up and see a guy and you're like, oh, this is not
what I thought?
What happens to me a lot is that men are shorter than I anticipated.
Wow.
But I'm pretty tall.
What's too short for you?
For me, I don't want to look
directly
in the eyes.
Like eye to eye.
I want to look up.
I want to feel like a teeny tiny princess.
What about you, Katie? Do you care about height?
Not really, to be honest.
I feel like Katie's a more wove one.
She's like, I want a little baby.
I like what I like. I'm also too terrified to
speak to men, so that's my problem.
So I'm kind of like Tick.
Yeah, that's my Tick.
Now, who has uh speaking of jokes
is it mark norman or samarill it's mark norman it's like yeah he's like no wonder chicks always
want like a guy that's taller than them because that's like the perfect like selfie angle so it's
like they always feel like they're just like hi yeah you don't want to be under like like looking
up a girl like look at this double chin. Yeah, that's not fair.
Exactly.
That is such a good goddamn joke.
Damn.
He's a great writer.
I'll never be.
We'll never be that funny.
Cool.
So how do you guys?
I'm going to throw in that dig.
That's like whenever me and Evan will watch Stand Up
or I'll share videos with him, it's just like,
God, what is it to be that funny?
Yeah.
How's the theater scene in Baltimore? Is it burgeoning? Where do we start? Is it bad? videos with him and it's just like god what is it to be that funny yeah well yeah how's like the
theater scene in baltimore is it burgeoning where do we start is it bad i think for a while that's
a reaction to every scene in baltimore how's the music scene oh i mean i guess if you're in any
scene like if we were to ask you what's the comedy scene like well it asked me which one the baltimore
it's it's struggles yeah yeah it's it's struggles yeah it's always struggles right
yeah it's a small city it's like i think a scene can't be better than the city it's in
interesting yeah yeah when we first started i feel like there was a big like push of all these
independent like diy companies i remember this yeah and there were so many of them and yellow
sign you guys cohesion and like everybody and now people are sort of them. NX, Yellow Sign, you guys. Cohesion and everybody.
And now people are sort of petering out because life happens and there's no money
and no space and everyone is being sexually harassed.
Are they closed?
Single Care got a ton of money.
I heard they're closed.
They're moving, yeah.
They're not closing.
They're moving out of the space.
So they'll still produce as a company.
But they won't have that theater anymore.
Yeah, space is really difficult. But yeah, even like a theater like single care which got loans and all
kinds of grants and stuff has to fucking eventually move yeah and i heard they were i heard they were
struggling years ago damn damn that's crazy yeah i don't know all the ins and outs but i think
this build this building as beautiful as it was like their new theater i think it ended up being
like too expensive what do you guys think it is like because that's that's the struggle for every scene in this town is like how the fuck do you get
people to give a shit about anything oh i don't know that's what we're trying to figure out
million dollar question i feel like you have to tap into a feeling and i don't know
i agree like i think the bros are really good at that. They're so good at it. What are they doing?
Because it's like a war cry.
I don't know what it is.
It's very, but is it?
The Baltimore Rock Opera Society.
Is it just like a.
For Liz and Liz Knight.
It's a very specific crowd.
And is it just friends supporting friends?
Do you know what I mean?
I think there's a lot of that, yeah.
That's what I think most of it is.
And there's so many people involved in that production
that if even two, three of their friends come,
it's going to pack out a show.
Right.
And they have a lot of different components to their shows.
So they have the music,
and then they have the singers and the musicians,
but then they also have lots of visual artists
doing the costumes.
Set pieces. Yeah, that's why their shows are amazing amazing and that's why people want to go see them because
they always there's gotta be like a hundred people involved in making that show work absolutely yeah
yeah yeah like uh i'll tell you guys off record but i heard some of the spaces they were looking
at and how much they cost i was like jesus christ permanent Permanent spaces? Yeah. For them? Yeah. Wow.
Crazy.
Like hundreds of thousands or millions?
Yeah.
Millions?
I'll tell you guys off the, but I don't think they're going to get it.
Yeah.
How would they get a loan for that much money?
That's insane.
Or a gift.
They're like vying for like big, big grants, I think.
From the state.
Yeah. Okay.
And then like, yeah, it doesn't matter but anyway
so yeah that's doable i mean center stage and everyman they did their big renovations and like
that's how they raise a lot of capital money i think but i think you're right you have to tap
into something where people like like yeah like i want to like it has to transcend whatever medium
it is so like comedy has to transcend more than just jokes has to say something yeah you know like a scene has to like be about something yeah there's
a universality to it that people feel like they identify with in some way or they want to be a
part of it maybe that's more for theater is that because you're in a room where it's happening like
people want to be a part of something and feel like they identify with whatever story is being
told or right right
and it does feel cool to support too because then you're like it's the baltimore rock opera
system yeah this is so weird baltimore's weird like i'm a part of this right i made a joke
about that on facebook and i uh i think people some like uh it was something about like people
like go saying like oh it's not that good but you know we got to support we like supporting
local artists i identified with that but it's a stupid it's not that good, but, you know, we got to support, we like supporting local artists.
Yes, I identified with that.
But it's a stupid, it's a stupid, like, because I was hanging out with comics,
and we were saying, like, somebody closed the show with saying, thank you for supporting local comedy.
It's, like, no one supports, they're just going because they have fun.
If no one was having fun, you wouldn't go to something.
Like, you wouldn't come to your show or Gin and Jokes or anything.
You definitely wouldn't be a repeat customer. Yeah, you don't, so that's the thing. Like, you wouldn't come to your show or Gin and Jokes or anything. You definitely wouldn't be a repeat customer.
Yeah, you don't,
so that's the thing,
like, no one supports
local whatever,
they just support
what they like.
Yeah.
And that should be the aim.
It's like,
so just make something great.
Right.
Make something good, yeah.
And stop telling people,
like, support local this
and that,
because there's a lot
of local shit that sucks.
Yeah.
Right, but I do think
there are people
who support local
just because it's local.
I agree.
Even if it's not good. I think that's an interesting person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to know what goes into it.
Because some people think, like, this is how people start, and you've got to foster that.
And it's usually other artists, probably.
Yeah.
But you never know who's going to, like, make it big.
So you just want to, like, support.
You think that's what it is?
I mean, I don't feel that way.
I wonder.
Just got to ride the coattails of everybody.
Yeah, yeah. Just be nice to everybody. Just be be nice to everybody don't burn any bridges ever yeah which i was gonna say you guys look great
today by the way stop hey dude they didn't book and they didn't book us so i'm not giving out
compliments well yeah i'm just kidding that's fair you guys look like thanks she already scared
a man jesus she should be when she knows me.
Just kidding.
Oh, my gosh.
No, you're a sweetheart.
And you both look very nice.
Okay.
Obviously.
Obviously.
Obviously.
Obviously.
You can only compliment women on their looks.
Yeah.
Yeah, not their anything else.
Not their personality.
Their tiny brains.
Their talent.
Nothing.
Sandwich making skills, maybe.
Oh, they don't do that anymore what i know it's crazy
what yeah um all right so how many productions are you going to do this year do you already have it
timed out yeah we do so at one night stand on saturday february 9th at fells point corner
theater at 8 p.m we are going to talk about what we're doing the rest of the year okay so that'll be the sort of announcement day but we are going to do two other major projects this year okay yes we'll say are
they going to be plays or one will be a festival of sorts yeah that we're hoping to get a lot of
different theater people involved in nice and then the other will be like a straight production
which we haven't done in a while yeah just like one play one story that's already written yep yep
so how does that work with plays can you just do any play like do you have to pay money to do that
like get the rights so it depends on the play the play that we'll be doing our friend jen diamond
who's a part of oh i love jen yeah she's great she's great she's a wonderful writer really she
wrote this play about amelia Earhart and we're gonna
be doing that yeah um so in that case like it's not a published piece yeah so we just sort of
said to her we want to do it and she's like okay cool um so in that case like we're not paying any
money but if a play is published and it is represented by a royalties company you have to
go pay royalties they're really expensive yeah and
it depends on what kind of theater you are so if like we're considered a non-professional theater
so like we pay a rate that is much lower than say center stage or every man would pay right right
for a show could you get around it with just like punctuation like to kill a mockingbird
like a question mark i think I think if we were doing it
and we were not charging tickets,
I think we could do it.
I think.
Don't quote me on that.
I think there are some shows
that if you are not charging for a ticket,
you don't have to pay that.
Gotcha.
Because then you're not making money.
Yeah, exactly.
What money would they go after?
Right.
And then there are works like Shakespeare that are free. That are totally free. Yeah, exactly. What money would they go after? Right. And then there are works like Shakespeare that don't free.
That are totally free.
Oh, yeah.
Because who gets that?
Right.
Royalty.
Exactly.
Public domain.
Yes.
Yeah.
Damn.
All right.
So that's one.
So is that going to be part of the festival?
That's the one on its own.
That's the one on its own.
And you have to go to the show to find out which one that is.
Yeah.
Okay.
I kind of just said it, though.
No, she just said it.
Amelia Earhart.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can edit that.
It's about so much more, though.
It's about so much more.
So much more.
Yeah.
That's what the play is called.
Amelia Earhart and so much more.
Exactly.
Actually, they find her.
Called it Tequila Mockingbird?
That's the big thing.
She comes out at the end.
What's that?
They find her.
Jen found Amelia.
Remember, she went missing, right?
Yeah, yeah.
That's what happened. Right. She comes out at the end of the show she just wants to settle down and make
sandwiches yeah she comes out with tupac and biggie yeah like we've just been chilling
chill it yeah they're all on an island somewhere where the next fire festival so is your hub going
to be the fells point corner theater i don't know they have been really kind to us though yeah i've
seen other comics have like uh michael furr he did like a uh improv show that ran there for a
while it's a good spot drew landry did shows there and then leah's i've never been yeah
little black box theater yeah it's nice um but yeah that's another thing with uh with like local
art too is having the same place
you know because Baltimore Improv Group
used to have to move around all the time
and people would be like oh where do you do improv
it'd be like Fells Point Corner Theater
and then sometimes we're at this and already they're
tuned out
theater's interesting because I think people do
associate it with a building
and a space in addition to whatever
you're actually producing
yeah whereas like stand up like you go wherever yeah like you are just you but i will say i was
just talking to our buddy in front of the pod ramin about this uh i think like having your own
show is if you're trying to build a following and you're like at the level that we are you have to
have your own show so like like we're talking about like our buddy jason weems is super funny but because he would just
pop into shows and kill he's like probably the one of the best comics around but uh his like
his like i feel like his following isn't doesn't match his tat like he should have so many followers
but if you don't
stay in one place
and build that
where there's a place
where people can just come
and know that you're there
consistently,
people,
like,
if they have to do work
to find you,
very little people do that.
So I think that,
like,
kind of,
it's like,
yeah,
like,
it's,
I mean,
it's hard enough to be like,
follow me on Instagram.
Exactly.
You feel like a piece of shit,
like,
you know,
like,
handing out cards. Dude, yeah, I got cards made. Yeah, I need to do it. on Instagram. Exactly. You feel like a piece of shit, like handing out cards and stuff.
Dude, yeah, I got cards made.
Yeah, I need to do it.
I need to.
I felt like such a piece of shit.
But it works.
It works, and people ask you, and you're like, ah, I don't have anything.
I'm done.
No big deal, guys.
Oh.
No big deal.
Designed it myself.
No big deal.
No big deal.
Yeah, I got to do that.
But for even stand-up that helps like if you can
say like i do a show here every whatever yeah you can find me here absolutely yeah well then
you're also you also kind of put yourself in a position of power right because you can book
people and then people want to know you for that reason right exactly yeah and do you find that
with jenna jokes oh yeah i feel like having a show that's successful like if more people just know who you are and it like gives you a little bit of like i try not to
do the i'll do you your show you do mine for a booking because a lot of people book me that i
necessarily don't think that for it i don't know like? I don't know, like, you don't, I think that's like a, you just want to keep your.
Brand.
You just want to keep it, like, yeah, like, your brand, if you want to do a high quality
show.
Yeah.
You keep it a high quality show, and then.
So, yeah, you got to say no.
You got to tell people no.
I, yeah, I actually reached out to another guy in D.C.
I was like, dude, how do you tell people no?
And our buddy Ramin said, he's like, I'll just straight up tell people you're not the caliber of comedian yet that I book.
And I was like, dude, I could never say that to somebody.
Well, it is kind of hopeful, though.
It's like because he said that he had like a full like paragraph right now that he would like copy and paste, which is basically like, you're not there yet but i think you could be keep working at it if i hear about you
in a few months like doing well then i'll book you yeah so it's saying hope yeah exactly it's like
no fucking way but maybe yeah so yeah and it's not like because there's plenty of shows that we
want to do that we don't get on yeah and it's just like a lot of it is like you're just not right for
that show or people don't know you or like maybe like, you haven't proven to that person.
Yeah, they don't think of you in that way.
And that's like, that's part of the game.
I'm sure like, you guys do auditions, right?
It feels like we're still talking about dating, though.
Oh, yeah.
You know, maybe some people just, you're not.
It's all the same thing.
Nothing, you can't take it personally, right?
But you do. Oh, yeah. Oh, because, because well especially for comedy oh my god yeah and acting like yeah the instrument is you yeah
something's not right it feels really personal and every time like you fail it feels like the
audience hates you right right that's but they don't no one gives a shit right they just hate
your writing i guess sometimes it can feel like they hate you
in a play um i have like this really strong memory of being in a play in high school
oh boy where um and of course i went to sabrina park high school so it's like very like everyone
plays lacrosse yeah it's very yeah it's like lax bro yeah totally totally bro town and i was in a
play with my friend aaron hanratty and we did it for like homecoming or something.
So the whole school was there, and I had to touch her boob.
Ooh.
Ooh.
What was the play?
And that was the reaction from everyone.
Just like screaming like all these teenage boys.
That's so tight.
I mean, what do you expect of teenage boys?
I mean, I'm 30 30 and i just had that reaction
i was kidding though but yeah yeah but i'm 32 and i was not kidding but because it was like
so controversial with the students they like banned doing like plays over a certain yeah
and like you can't cuss in the plays anymore have you guys ever gotten like weird feedback
like unsolicited feedback because that happens to comics a lot i imagine that happens to you oh constantly oh yeah like like when you
see them after the show see audience members that's like my least favorite part about anything
that's dude everyone hates seeing people after it's awful it's always bad yeah because people
don't know how to most people don't know how to say a compliment without being shitty it's very interesting
or it can just like go
too long too
you don't know how to escape
Mark Norman said that he's like
it's fine meeting people but it always just
lasts seven minutes too long
oh my god
I just want a hi, hello, I think you're
great and then just keep going
like good show like oh
thank you but dude but if you that's the thing you notice like if you hang around people who
and like these people like aren't that famous like when judah like the kind of conversations
people want they really desperately want to make a connection yes and it's fucking sad to watch dude
yeah like oh my god and it's just so awkward yeah dude hassan when i uh when i open it
for hassan minaj people fucking love this guy like he is like beyond a comic yeah he's a celebrity at
this point and i went to some meet and greet that he was at he was doing he came two hours late on
purpose because he did not want to do it when he showed up you could just see him like oh god i don't want to do this and like girls like it was so awkward they just
stood in a circle around him and at like telling him like you're beautiful you're like perfect
fucking and then during a q a a girl she was like i don't have a question i just want to stare at you
what like yeah but anyway so like what's some weird shit people have?
Like, do they critique you?
Do they say, like...
I don't like it.
I like when they give, like, a critique.
Really?
Honestly, yeah.
Like, I'm open to that.
An audience member who doesn't act?
I think, yeah.
I think now that, like, I run a company, like, I like hearing that kind of stuff.
Oh, what people want to see.
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, what I don't like is when people are stuff what people want to see yeah yeah but like
what i don't like is when people are like try to be overly nice but you can tell that like they
hated it you know really yeah i don't like that like what uh just like it was good right and i
know i know when i see something that i didn't like i'll either say that it was really fun or
it was really cute and so if people say
that back to me i know that they're lying wow maybe or you're just projecting onto them a
little bit right absolutely yeah but yeah yeah i well it's tough because it sounds like you want
like market research of like did you actually yeah and i appreciate an honest opinion so when
i can tell they're like just giving me bullshit i'd hate
that yeah when your voice goes up a few octaves yeah like
you guys did it yeah exactly i'm proud of you honestly that set was nice
yeah last time i was at the improv uh i was handing out my cards because i brought some
these girls uh from the audience they're talking to me and another comic lafayette right and it was
like kind of at that weird phase where it's like okay we like did the thing like all right see you
later and then she was like hey i just want to say i'm really sorry about your friend dylan that died
it's like a comic that died dc and i was just
like yeah me too like why are we talking like here's my card though well i already gave like
and this was like it was over yeah so it's like okay all right you can tell she felt bad too
because i think she was just like trying to say something else relatable but we're both just like
yeah that's uh oh well have a good night bye what a note to end on
the most morbid thing
and then one time I was doing a show
in western Maryland at the fucking
casino out there and it's a
nightmare it's really nice with the people there
holy shit there's a comedy
club called Bonkers
and after the show
comedy is so stupid
they are bonkers
oh they're bonkers
so fun
after the show
I was with the
headliner
Matt Bergman
and we were just
standing there
like saying bye
to people and stuff
and this
woman comes walking up
she has two Coca-Colas
by the way
and like comes like
saddling
like up to the table
and
Matt in his set said he lives
somewhere in virginia and she's like do you really live there he's like yeah yeah she's like oh yeah
i'm around there he's like oh okay cool thanks for coming to the show i like thought it was just
like all right she's like yeah just kind of stands there and she goes uh chinese are kind of taking
over around there aren't they and we're like holy shit like why did you
have to say that?
It's so awkward.
That's so funny dude.
Chinese?
Not Chinese.
I've been lucky
these last couple weeks
no one said anything
but almost always
after shows.
I can see it's like
a brown comic
you might get some stuff.
One time I'm a gooby
somebody said
you're funny for a brown guy
which is like
what the fuck
does that even mean?
Right. Yeah. That's a weird guy. Oh, no. Which is like, what the fuck does that even mean? Right.
Yeah.
That's a weird thing to say.
Yes.
But I think.
Honestly, I was just trying to be complimentary when I said that.
Hey, I'm sorry for a moment.
I thought I took it the wrong way.
It's tough at my goobies.
You never know when someone is racist or not.
Nope.
It's tough.
Timonium.
Yeah.
Damn.
All right.
Should we wrap it up?
Are we good?
I think so.
Is there anything else you guys want to plug?
No
Oh wait
Plug the date again
Yeah
Saturday
Yeah
Saturday
February 9th
8pm
Fells Point Corner Theater
If you search in
Terror Bank Baltimore
You'll find us
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram
We have a
Yeah
Yeah we have a website
Yeah just send it to me
Yeah yeah
Also if you come earlier
We have a band playing.
And they'll be playing before we start.
Who's the band?
They're called Forks.
Forks.
Nice.
F-O-R-X.
How'd you find them?
Take that, Spoon.
Friends.
Nice.
Tight.
Cool.
Awesome.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
Thanks for coming on, you guys.
Thanks for having us.
Good luck with the show and all that.
Yeah, we have shows, too, but just follow us on the Instagram.
We'll put them there.
Gin and Jokes.
Only 20 tickets left.
Pow.
Yeah, and thank you guys for being on the show.
Thank you.
And Eric, hey, thanks for the lavalier mic.
Thanks, Eric.
No, boomer shit sounds okay.
Shout out live from the studio.
Oh, follow Devin.
We got Jay Larson on the next episode.
Oh, cool.
That's tight.
You guys have hacks on your podcast?
Oh, that's cool. Jay Larson. That's cool. We have actual real local talent. So, cool. You guys have hacks on your podcast? Oh, that's cool.
Jay Larson.
That's cool.
We have actual
real local talent.
So, that's been the show.
Dick is out.
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