The Digression Sessions - Ep. 284 - Maria Sanchez!

Episode Date: April 8, 2019

Hola Digheads, on this week's episode, Josh and Umar are joined by the hilarious Baltimore-based comedian, Maria Sanchez! Eric just recorded his album, Nebraska 2! And it will be out this summer. Don't forget Umar released his special! Check it out -> HERE! And Josh's band, Tremendous Athlete, released a new ep entitled Progress! It's available wherever you stream music! Bandcamp link -> HERE!  Follow the podcast and Josh Kuderna and Umar Khan, on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram! Josh - @JoshKuderna on Twitter and @JoshKuderna on Instagram The Pod - @DigSeshPod on Twitter The Pod's Facebook page - Dig Sesh on Facebook Thanks for listening, all! Do the pod a favor and rate and review the pod on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Laughable, Stitcher, & Spotify plz!

TAGE NETWORK That's a Gotti. Alright, let's get into it, right? Start this friggin' podcast. I'm sitting here at Umar's Palatial Estate in Hamden today. Welcome. A lovely day. It is nice. The sun is out. It was a little gray earlier, but here we are, guys. I'm sitting here at Umar's Palatial Estate in Hamden today. Welcome. A lovely day. Yes.

It is nice. The sun is out. It was a little gray earlier, but here we are, guys. We got our coffees and our waters. Let's do this thing. We got our guest, Maria Sanchez, everybody. Hello. Baltimore comedian extraordinaire, Maria Sanchez.

What's up, people? She's a Gin and J favorite i think i probably get like more comments about i think i've gotten more comments about you than anyone else like positive comments yeah and uh what if they were negative yeah i've got the most that one negative person oh yeah but it wasn't about you it was about um michael summers he has he has like a i get you too confused all the time like maria sanchez she the white gay guy is that is that her is that her oh oh i was thinking michael fur yeah but yeah we'll say he's gay too fuck it they're all fucking gay dude all white guys are gay yeah earlier that's what's up i just got back from the gym sorry maria was

here before me i felt bad um i think that's the first time that's ever happened we've had a guest show up before both of us yeah that's very true yeah i didn't want to say it, but Mark, you never know when that guy shows up. He might show up today. Yeah. For a podcast we had scheduled a year ago. But I was at the gym, so I was in my tiny shorts and I came in. I was like, oh, wow. This sounds like me and my never seen my legs before.

I'm real. I was like, I still can't see them. It sounds like you're it sounds like you're getting ahead of a me too thing you're like whoops yeah gosh i just got back from the gym you know what i do when i get back i have my dick out so sorry about that one time i left the third one all of my legs are out i got home and i realized like i left my it was like cell phone or wallet at my school whoa in my gym shorts yeah and clothes and i was like on my way to the gym and i was like oh my god like i have to drive because the school is going to close over the weekend like i have to get my wallet yeah and then i had to walk

through a high school in west baltimore dressed in my tiny gym shorts and like i was just like pleased to god look at the danger any kids saw me they would roast me i would say like straight up you look like you lost a bet like you're like all right now i gotta walk through here oh my god no one would respect me just see my hairy ass thighs no like just just seeing your teacher out and about was weird like seeing the grocery store was weird let alone having them come back in gym clothes. I'm telling you, if you shave, a lot of black girls will have edges this summer.

Wow. That's great edge hair. I do trim my arm hair and my chest and stomach hair. And you sell it? I do sell it. You want me to sell it? Let me know. I don't think it's going to look like pubes.

It's not going to look like... No, that's edges. What's edges? I don't know what it is. The sides. The sides. I first heard about that from Chris Milner's girlfriend. She said as you get older, what they say is your edges get snatched up.

What does that mean? It just disappears. No, they wear their fake hair, their weaves. Oh, gotcha. They bond it with latex glue, the same material as condoms. Oh. And they make their hair longer. And then when it's time for it to come out, they snatch it out.

Oh, okay. And this glue leaves. Like they just rip it out? Yeah, it's like a bald, manged edges. Oh, shit. So your arm hair will fill in those gaps. All right, I'm going to start putting in Ziploc bags after. Jesus.

Umar, you're going to get rich. I know. Yes. You thought you were covered in unsightly hair. It's all edges. Right. And see, your hair is actually called Indian Remy. Wow.

It's the top of the line. For real. Top of the line. If you had a rapper name, that should be your name. Indian Remy. That's tight. Oh, shit. That's tight.

That's tight. Dude, that should be my alter ego. Remy. That's tight. That's tight. Dude, that should be my alter ego. It's like $200 a bundle. No. What's in a bundle? Wow. I guess it would be probably like a ponytail's worth of hair. Oh my God. Yeah, on your arm alone, dude. That's crazy.

That's just bitch. Wow. I think we found a title for the episode. You just hold your arms up. Ashes. Dude, my arms, when I don't trim, are nuts. It's dark. It's a lot. Do you have hair on your shoulders?

I forget. Oh, yeah. I trim that, too. Yeah. It's bad. You got to trim it up. I do it twice. I get my girlfriend to trim my back.

What a lucky gal. I know, right? What a lucky gal. Doesn't it itch when it grows back? No, not really. The back sometimes, yeah. Oh, my God. I don't know if people want to hear about my back hair growing.

I'm just talking about my pubes. When they grow back, oh, my God. Do you wax? Are you a waxer? No, I'm a nairer. You nairer pubes? So you grip and rip, huh? No, nayer just makes it fall off.

You just wipe it away. It's a chemical. Oh, it like melts it, right? Is that good for your vagina? Well, I usually drench it. What if she's like, no, it's not good for it. It's great for it. Bouncing back.

Well, oh, geez. Because I don't like to use the razor because then with the razor. You get the bumps. Yeah. I used to shave my pubes. Uh-huh. And I would get bumps. It was bad.

Like all the way down? Oh, yeah. I know. It's not good. Yeah. I didn't really start manscaping until like recently, really. I got a buzzer from Rite Aid for like 25 bucks. right aid for like 25 bucks your hair is not an issue it's not a lot but i wasn't keeping up like i asked my girlfriend i was like you don't care

right she's like well you could do something and i was like yeah yeah you're not wrong what do you feel about men's pubes fuck no you leave them alone leave them alone leave them alone that's why it's well look i just even is is it is I think it's more for dick pics what if I shave into it with my hair it just says I'm not gay in my pubes would that help? no it's like why do you care? why do you care?

it was more so for her well basically if you're getting head it's quite a distraction like with a man if he's getting, she's not pulling back pubes. I don't know in your case. No, she might be. My dick is so small that.

Yeah, it's mostly pubes. Yeah. No, dude, my shit's nuts. It's way too out of control. Yeah. Yeah, like it starts growing on the base of the dick. And I'm like, we got to trim that a little. Yeah.

The base is not the shaft or the head. No on the base of the dick. And we got to trim that a little. Yeah. The base is not the shaft or the head. No, the base of the shaft. The dick that I'm working with, I need as much as possible. You understand? We got to free up some real estate down there. So that's what I think. I think basically it's for the look of it. Right, right, right, right.

A little bigger. Yeah. All right. Well, now that we got the pube talk out of the way. I guess that's the podcast. That's it. No, I want to get to know Maria a little bit. Yeah.

I mean, we've chatted here and there, mostly just at mics and stuff, but not like in-depth convos. So, are you from Baltimore? Yeah, I'm from Baltimore. I grew up around the Fells Point area. Oh, okay. Nice. It was the projects.

Yeah. So how, do you say how old you are? Yeah, I'm 40. Okay. Are you really? Yeah. Damn. I know, I thought this.

No kids, no kids. That's great. Yeah, you look great. If you were like, I'm 28, I'd be like, sure. Yeah. Everybody believes that I'm way younger. Because when I first met you, because you were like, I'm 28, I'd be like, sure. Yeah. Everybody believes me. Yeah. I'm way younger. Because when I first met you, because you were wearing that Towson hoodie you're wearing

now, I thought you were a college kid. That helps, too. That does help. I did go to Towson. No, no, but I thought you were a current. Like, actively. I was. Oh, okay.

Like, college age, I mean. Financial aid is the best thing that ever happened. Wait, so what was Fell's Point like when you were growing up? Because I only know what it is now. It's just bars and white people. Lots of bros. Yeah. Basically, it was the same way. Oh, really? Yeah, it was always the same way.

We had our area. It was Spanish, Native Americans, Greeks, Polacks. Everybody had their own area. Fells Point was a place that um we would just go fireworks parades right yeah stuff like that i went to catholic school so oh you did oh the entire way like all the way through 12th grade no i went to after my dad died i went to public school second grade oh okay it was torture yeah

oh you didn't like baltimore city no my mom still made me wear my catholic school oh my god that's so mean yeah because you're sending the signal like i'm better than this right you know i used to go to a private school what was like the biggest shock from going to catholic school and then just getting dumped in second grade in a public school in Baltimore? The worst was from Catholic school, I could read. Yeah. But we did not.

We weren't doing cursive writing. Oh, okay. So when I was in public school, they were already doing it. Oh. So I had to actually look at the letters on the board and just and i never told so you just faked it till you make it basically interesting i write like a doctor but no one uses i can't even i know my own jokes right you write your jokes in cursive yeah what just put on your phone i'm proud of it i tell myself yeah yeah that must

suck you're like all right what else am i working on 15 milligrams of oxycontin what is what did i write here um yeah no i could see yeah getting there and then be like all right we're learning cursive i'd be like who uses this come on i i'm in second grade i know nobody my cursive was so bad my teachers are like, just write in print. You guys are from a different generation. Yeah. We still learn cursive. I'm 32.

Y'all learn cursive, but we did reports and research. Oh, fuck. We did it on computers. Right. What year did you graduate high school? 95. Holy shit. Yeah. You didn't really have computer i mean they were around but they weren't like everywhere like we had yeah did you even have like a typing class or anything like that

you're right right right you guys had home ec no no no no i had home ec for one semester in eighth grade what yeah yeah yeah oh i think because ev I had home ec for one semester in eighth grade. What? Yeah, middle school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I think because Evan had home ec too. I think it was the Eastern Shore thing. Yeah, we did like sewing and shit. Wow. We cooked.

Did you? Yeah, I don't think we actually cooked. We ate snickerdoodles. Wow. I didn't have any of that. I didn't dissect anything. No, we didn't do that either. I was privileged.

In what way? As far as, like, during my school, middle school years, I was shipped out to a county school. What? Yeah. What was this? This was this No Child Left Behind Act, where they took all the smart city kids yeah out of baltimore city public schools and shipped us out to white schools right to boost their test scores get them more money and our schools eventually closed holy shit wait well that no child left behind didn't come around

until 2001 well that was george bush but this might have been like a state program. This was basically the early 90s. Okay. Yeah. The early 90s. I got, it was called the Gifted and Academic Talented Education Program, GATE. Yeah. Yeah. And I got an award from Ronald Reagan.

Ooh. Fifth grade, yeah. Did you burn it? Did you pee on it? Maria Sanchez. No, actually, my mom loved Ronald Reagan. I don't know why. Your mom's a conservative?

Black people are. No, I know they can be, but liking Ronald Reagan's a little weird. We were just talking about that. Black people have the same values as white conservatives. I do, especially, and i don't know this is going to sound bad but i have a new joke in my act where i say my black co-workers who are successful black people they have good jobs and with their college they say more racist things than racist white people right because they'll look down on like you know some of the families that we work with

and like like they have that same white mentality. Like, pull yourself up from your bootstraps. You got to work hard, all this stuff. Like, they're... A conservative and then like a rich black person next to each other. Like, miss me with that gay shit. Right. Like, I know, right?

Right. And they both pound it. And they tie it all into Christianity. Right. Exactly. The Lord doesn't approve of that. Right. That's why a lot of black people...

That is such an insightful... Wow. Interesting. So, you grew up with a mom who was kind of like that? Conservative. approve of that right that's a lot of black people that is such an insightful wow interesting so you grew up with a mom who was kind of like that conservative my mom was i'm ready for this she was racist against black people uh-huh and white people at the same time. Just not a fan of people. No. She loved people.

Okay. But certain roles. Yeah. Okay. If she was on the phone with a black customer service. She gave Chris Rock his bit. If she was on it, no black customer service at all. Wow.

She would refuse to talk to black talk about because why put somebody white on the phone no right adrian appaloochee you don't want to do your job today adrian appaloochee has that joke where she's like yeah we all hate white people until we get them on the phone for customer service holy shit and my mom always told me she said don't go to a black school wow so was your mom like did she like do well in school and basically my mom graduated from high school and then she got pregnant with my brother okay and she got her like she furthered her education like in nursing so i guess like now how all these little black girls go to cna school they had that program back then yeah ronald reagan he ronald reagan is like trump now yeah yes and i don't care what you say but when republicans come in office black people

get on their ass they do their shit really yeah wait you, black people get on their ass. They do their shit. Really? Yeah. Wait, you think black people are behind Trump right now? No, not behind him. It's just more like, let me get my shit together. He not going to do shit for me. It makes him work hard.

Well, you're forced to, right? Really? Yes. Wow. This is controversial. But the drugs are always cheaper. Well, Reagan put the drugs. Republicans are in office, the drugs are always cheaper.

Why? Because there's more? I don't know. It's just always been that way. When Democrats been in office, it's like droughts. Because remember half of babies? They used to be $65. I don't know what half the baby is. 3.5 grams of weed.

Used to be $65. Omar sounded so white there. I'm not familiar with half the baby. Half the baby. Refresh me on half the baby, please. Half the baby. Half the baby. Why wouldn't you just buy the entire baby?

Actually, the seven grams is called a Michael Vick. Wow. I didn't know that. Are you just buy the entire baby actually the the seven grams is called a michael vick wow i didn't know that are you just fucking with us like i feel like you're just looking around you're just looking around the room you're like okay eight grams is a target bag that's what they call it yeah if you get yourself a crock yeah you get yourself a crock pot oh you're rich for real 3.5 grams is called a half a baby interesting and around when obama was president they were like 65 yeah 40 okay and now trump they 25 i don't know if that's related i think there's just more pot everywhere right yeah because pot's more legal or like it's easier to get legally in the city now everyone has to drop

the prices because demand yeah but i guess a lot of coke and heroin the same too it's always i'm telling you it's always cheaper that's why the fentanyl fentanyl is overdoses i just imagine people checking an app like some people check stocks yeah it's like oh look at coke and fentanyl yeah yeah exactly down four some guy in a suit he's like have you seen half the baby it's really spiked it's it's half the baby half the baby is trending up very nice i'll take my oat milk please thank you that's interesting so yeah that's that's so weird i wouldn't think about that but trump's like yeah four more years Look at the price of fentanyl Pretty great And he's talking about I'm gonna build a wall

So no drugs Yeah So then when you went to A county school Was that like Was there anything like Did you feel like you belonged Because

Oh hell no No It was It was racist as fuck Oh really Skinheads Neo-Nazi skinheads Used to chase us

What That was a thing in the 90s. I feel like it was more of that stuff in the 90s. At the school? This was in Dundalk. Oh, God. This was in Dundalk in the early 90s. That is crazy.

For those listening. But I got my revenge. Oh, well, let's get into that. I just want to say, for those listening, Dundalk is just a shithole. No, no, no, no, no. Now it's just Swirlville. It's going up a little bit now. All those racist white people, they used to nail Nazis.

Now they have black grandkids. Yeah, I can see that too. I used to substitute in Baltimore County Public Schools. I used to be in the Dundalk area a lot. A lot of mix. Interesting. okay i used to be in the dundalk area a lot uh-huh a lot of mix interesting i mean you can see a conservative yeah old grandpa with mixed kids really come here raheem jesus oh my god sorry nazi grandpa but it's like, Dundalk now, like, I can walk through and it's, like, everybody will ask me, where's the drugs?

Wow. But it's still, like, a shithole. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's always been a shithole. Right, right. It's always been a shithole. It's always been a shithole.

It's just that now it's because, what was it? O'Donnell Heights. Mm-hmm. Yeah. At first, it was separate. Right. You know what I'm saying? um what was the o'donnell heights yeah at first it was separate right you know see we used to get chased because we were smart kids but we were black as well so we used to get two strikes right there we were ostracized by the o'donnell heights kids and the racist white right so you're like too smart to be cool white neighborhoods damn damn wow how'd you get your revenge oh done dog i used

to sell drugs out there allegedly allegedly yeah allegedly and um yeah it's just like now is this gentrified yeah how if you if you're like a smart kid how'd you get into the i mean not that you obviously you can be both but like uh usually the smart kids aren't the ones selling drugs i don't know is that no when you when you mixed in an environment where you like i was i lived in the projects oh okay i didn't know so i saw a lot but education my mom always forcing education wow that's great see how much that matters if you have one parent who values education like you still got your education you did get involved in that stuff but you still got and you're smart about it i work with have

don't have any parents like that but have all the bad shit around them yeah you need to have that balance because you can have the greatest teachers and best schools. But if you're at home and nobody's stressing education or like a work ethic, then it's not really going to be. So it always meant something to you. Exactly. So you saw all this stuff going around and you're like, this is a quick way to get money. Yeah.

Basically. After high, after middle school, I got to go to Western to western oh the all girls school right yeah same sex school and a lot of people who come out of western saved me really i mean from a lot like teen pregnancy um like the abuse physical domestic violence and all that stuff it saved me because at western we were like virtuous women really oh they're very hoity-toity like a lot of them i work with a lot of women who are alum of um most of them are cool but they're bougie yeah they're they're very like they think a lot of times they think they're better than other people especially if like there's like a rival like what's their rival

is it it's not Polly it's kinda every yeah it's like they're the best yeah them versus the world and yeah I've worked with a lot of women who went to Western it's interesting it's an interesting type of woman it is very

interesting because one year I did a report at the Western. It's an interesting type of woman. It is very interesting because one year I did a report because I'm in education as well. Oh, okay. And I did a report on same-sex schooling and the result on, what is it called? Mobility.

Mm-hmm. So transgenerational mobility, matter of fact. Yeah. Okay. Like accelerating Like upward mobility Through generation Right

Society Yeah Like your mom having No education Right To you having A full doctorate degree Right

Right Mobility And how does that happen That jump Right Right And when I went I asked like 20 girls

That I graduated with I said What were the obstacles you faced and where are you now? And at that time, going through those halls, a lot of those girls were going through molestation. Suicidal thoughts, suicide attempts, parents with AIDS yeah drug drugs i was gonna say i'm sure drugs all that violence yeah and i'm talking about these girls graduating top of their class that's insane yeah a 99 like acceptance rate into college holy shit that's huge yeah it's crazy so how do you get into that school what's the barrier to entry grades yeah basically how how that opportunity even though it hurt my

my neighborhood schools me being able to go to the the county right highlighted highlighted me gotcha in the lottery going to westland wow the city so that's interesting like because that's still happening now where like these charter schools yeah schools in a way are really bad for communities because it's happening in our uh in the school that i work in is got was really hurt by the charter school right that opened up up the street because what happens is all these families and especially like families like where you came from with the parents who value education and care yeah they want to send their kids there to get their kid in there because they know how to work the system right the parents who either don't show up or don't have that uh

you know know how their kids get left in these schools that end up falling apart and get worse and worse and our school's enrollment is gone down so our school will close after next year right so you're losing funding and then you're also losing like the best and the brightest too that yeah so then you're just left with kids and then what to no fault of their own are kind of stuck in this situation is this politicians point at city schools like look at these schools they suck yeah yeah yeah and then like and look at charter schools they're great it's like well they're not really but yeah it's the same kids though right right right right yeah because i know betsy devos is all about charter schools yeah because it's a money-making thing yeah there's a lot of money in that industry

and it's there it's a way to privatize education exactly yeah it's bad damn it's terrible but yeah but you made it work for you but it's like still like on the whole pretty bad basically i i just i mean i just think that that just just a part of same-sex schooling and in some type of curriculum that it would just change it around. Like at some point, boys and girls need to be separated in education. I kind of agree in certain neighborhoods. Like in like, because it does cause a lot of drama.

Yeah. Like in my school, almost every fight's about that kind of stuff. Yeah. Interesting. So yeah, if you had just like a high school that was all guys, you'd think that'd be better. Interesting. You see?

She's Republican. That's a very Republican thought. At some point in a child's education, I think that they should be in same-sex school. Yeah. So we should build a wall. I hear what you're saying you know what they say is more and it's kind of like your story it's uh what they say is uh uh one of the most consistent findings in education research is who you go to school with matters so you consistently have gone to schools like when you got shipped out to the county or when you went

to western you've been in schools with kids from backgrounds that are probably different than yours right and you can network and see people who are like in six like i think that in successful exposure is yeah you have exposure to different networks and people whereas like kids in schools that you know like a lot of schools in baltimore it's just all kids in poverty right from the same neighborhood that you've already seen they don't see they don't know good like when you ask like a fourth grader like what you want to do yeah they can't name jobs that if you went into the county and asked fourth graders what they want to do because they don't see them they don't know that it exists or that that's an option yeah i deal with high school kids yeah

okay what do you do yeah what do you do? If you want to say. Oh, you don't have to say. You know what? I shouldn't say. I shouldn't be talking this much probably either about my job. This isn't the first time. I know. I'm wearing 93% of African American males can't read on the second grade level.

Yeah. Whoa. 93%? I'm talking about who can say every rap song there is. Right. And I'm like, don't you know that's the same type of memory you use? So your brain is not used to taking anything in that doesn't have a beat or a rhyme to it. Right.

Because you're training your brain not to learn yeah yeah damn it's crazy so how'd you get into comedy you've been doing it for like 10 years right yeah uh and you're like one of the best comics in this area you're so funny dude you crushed the last time you did gin and jokes holy shit you crushed so hard the person after you bombed so hard do you remember that it wasn't your sorry yeah it was my fault you didn't have to throw in that last detail yeah no one gives a fuck well i'm sure the person went after her does well it's not the first time i know yeah yeah you know you're a killer i try to you know yeah because it's i mean as a comic you can't be like

well let me hold back right you know it's like it's kind of part of the job too is sometimes you're like all right now this is work you know um but yeah no i you're so funny and it's not like you're doing like cheap tricks to get it either like it's just it's good i just i read this quote one time i forgot i think it was a jewish guy he said um what did he say he's like money is the best i'm a big fan woman's truth uh-huh would just blow the world, would just explode the whole world. And then, you know,

I remember from my collective that I did with the girls at Western, like how we were all like best friends and we still held these secrets. So I figured, well, I learned that in comedy, those secrets are funny. Yeah.

Yeah. You say some shit on stage, dude. Yeah. I'm like, wow. Yeah. I think the last time I saw you was at Reliable Tavern in D.C. And it's in a basement. So I came down the stairs and you were on stage and you were yelling something about

like white women and their pussies. And I was like, yeah, good. Yeah, I realize being who I am, African-American female, race, sex, class, I can say anything. Yeah. Oh, totally. You're so right. I don't offend people.

Yeah. And if they get offended, what can they say to you white people created this like liberal white people are the ones who created this hierarchy like where if you're this kind of minority yeah then you know i as a white person can't tell you what to do and so they create this hierarchy so you can say whatever the fuck and then like even chris allen like he he will not he's like i will never let a white person yeah especially like a white woman talk shit to me right and he's just like are you don't and like he always uses the word white splain which is great because it's like a white girl tries to tell you your joke is bad for this reason

you could be like are you fucking white explaining to me oh yeah you're telling me my experience yeah it's bad yeah it's the best so that's yeah that's really smart yeah and you'll say whatever like i think when you did gin and jokes you open up a joke with uh something about like how baltimore like uh we thought like like you guys thought gentrification was gonna it was such a good line you like, you guys thought gentrification was going to save white Baltimore. You guys did not see heroin. And that was so destroyed.

What an amazing observation. Also, that's just so good. And then Eric told me that you have a new bit you're working on about how white people got everyone hooked on Christianity and then they just bailed like, Hey,

we're atheists. Yeah. Like what? Yeah. Like the most religious Jesus and quit. Uh, that is so true. That is so funny.

Cause yeah, it's kind of like what we were talking about earlier about the conservative views. And it's like, well, you don't, you don't like gay people. It's like,

yeah, cause of the book you gave me. Yeah yeah it's essentially like a huge book club essentially black black people we're not gay lovers we're not you're a former gay yeah did you stop because of jesus yeah wow you had sex with jesus and he he brought you around no no that holy dick the the stipple i don't know what the stipple do you know the stipple is we're basically if you do certain things you shouldn't be in leadership what yeah in ministry yeah are you in ministry you can be a yeah oh wait but do you still want to have sex with women oh you are you just i think about it a lot she's winking you're like no actually i'm celibate for real for real okay wow women don't work

huh women don't work what do you for you women don't work. Huh? Women don't work. For you? Women don't work. Like the same problems you guys have with women, women have with women even worse. Trying to get puss is what you're saying. No, that's very easy. Okay, okay. Speak for yourself. Yeah, yeah, it's totally easy. Imagine, okay, if you're dealing with someone that's oppressed racially, sexually. Right.

And by class. Right. So you're dealing with that and yourself. Yep. So, yeah. A lot of issues there. There's gender roles that, like, most, and I've seen in black lesbian relationships yeah more gender roles yeah as far as this the man someone has to be more masculine and right okay interesting and that was it that

was even like actually i've seen a lot of relationships like heterosexual like traditional roles are being filled but it's you mean the lesbian relationships look like hetero relationships yeah okay wait so yeah like maria maria babies wow yeah maria comes home she's like i don't smell dinner bitch bitch right yeah and it's a lot and it's violence like oh no it's under the radar but right lesbian relationships um highly domestic interesting okay so so wait so you and males okay but wait so you're involved in religions what you're saying like no no no ministry okay all right it's like if i was the president of the united states i couldn't smoke weed well if you made it legal yeah but you know what i'm saying what it would wait oh so you're saying like it's just like a bad look for someone who wants to be in like a certain public eye exactly and is it your job or comedy

because i feel like in comedy being a black any minority you can be helps you in comedy. Yeah. You get more Yas Queen points. But I truly feel how I feel. Yeah. As far as with women, I would never be with a woman. Really? No.

Is that something that you want or you think it just doesn't work? No. It just don't work. Okay doesn't okay but what made you do it in the first place i was drunk for like a decade interesting no for real i was drunk but you've had relationships with women. She was drunk for a long time, Umar. Yeah, I was. And then when I got sober. Oh, got it. It's like, I didn't really like eating pussy. So wait, being gay is like when people quit cigarettes.

They're like, how's quitting cigarettes? It's good, except when I get drunk, God, I munch so much box. Girls can do it, but men can't. Oh, yeah, yeah. If I was like, yeah, like yeah i get drunk i fuck around blow a couple guys and be like get the fuck out but with chicks it's like pretty tight pretty cool pretty cool yeah like i like i know like any woman who's four year college she has yeah done it right right right right oh yeah yeah um you have a little close girlfriend okay so so for you it's like just a phase like it's not or maybe not even just a phase but it's not something that you're like i'm entirely lesbian it was just like yeah it was basically

fluid that's what we did at that time and then is that a result of being at an all-girls school no actually when we were at weston that was like found upon oh yeah especially in the 90s right like being gay was not that out in the open no you like you were kind of shunned right right right i mean i'm sure even now it's got to be hard pretty accepted now most of the women in my class they came out after oh okay like we knew we knew yeah yeah right okay damn so but now you're celibate yeah interesting how long have you been celibate four years wow four years Wow. Poor years. I mean, I date. Uh-huh. But my schedule, comedy, it's hard to build a trusting relationship. Yeah. Communication and stuff like that.

Yeah. Interesting. And especially because now I'm older, so I came from an era where we didn't have all this social media. Right. Texting. Yeah, yeah. So we were on the phone

we would talk on the phone and nobody has time for that yeah talking on the phone i mean i will say uh me and uh chris talk on the phone pretty regular like once a week we have like an hour and a half long conversation yeah i was gonna say but that's like that's like a treat almost in a way like we used to like you're saying like every day you would have conversations that were like 20 to 30 minutes on the phone i used to like talk to my girlfriend every day after school on the phone oh i remember being so excited when the house phone would rain be like oh that's what that's for me that's for me that's for me you know that's how i want to date now and right it's called my landline i was talking about this with chris like uh even giving out your, like, people used to just give out their number because that's all you could give out.

But, like, even that now is such an intimate thing to give someone your number. Like, if you connect with someone, it's just like, hit me up on the gram, DM me, send me a message on Facebook. But, like, I don't like giving my number to, like, people unless I really, like, fuck with you. And if somebody gives somebody your number, oh, my God. Yeah, it is weird. It's huge, yeah. like i'm like why would you give that person yeah that's happened to me where like uh like or uh recently someone was like hey man uh here's this person's number they um they uh they want you to like produce a show for i was

like well why don't they fucking reach out to me why am i calling someone like hey i heard someone wanted a show hi you want me to help you yeah yeah like you calling someone when they don't expect it is weird yes right yeah just similar like like knocking on doors now you have to text and be like i'm gonna call in five cool you know but yeah i like texting more so than the apps because instagram and facebook it shows that it's been read yes text do not well people, it's funny because some people put the, you can make it so, okay, so like when I text a friend and it'll show that they've seen the text.

That's only on their end, right? Yeah, they have to put that on. Okay, but they can't see, but that doesn't mean then they see. No, no, no, no, that's just for them. That always bothers me. Those people are, that's like the modern day jackass i think you know i'm josh cardona and this is a text message on red these are red receipts yeah he's me on facebook yeah call my phone uh because they know your phone's in your hand

yeah i see you're online ignore it just ignore it. Yeah. No, Eddie did that. Big Ed the Bouncer. Eddie Lyles? No, not the other one. It's another big guy. Oh, I don't know him. Is he a comic? Yeah.

Oh, okay. He did my goobies a couple times. Oh, okay. But yeah, he saw me on Facebook and called me. And I like hung up. Yeah. And he saw me at Motor House. He's like, Maria, you were on Facebook that day at 8.

What the fuck? That's weird. Don't talk to nobody. What did he want? I don't know. You don't call a comedian at 8.30 in the morning? Oh, yeah, yeah. That's weird.

You getting up this, is this early for you? I feel bad. I feel like I made you get up earlier than you usually would. Kind of, sort of. I usually lay around in a bed for a good two, three hours. I enjoy that. I cannot do that. I love it.

I'll get out, make breakfast, get back in bed with said breakfast. I do that. That's the move. There's nothing more I like being in my underwear than watching TV, eating food. It's the best. This is the only day that I have to chill, chill. Because you don't sunday i have to do church okay and you do show are you doing shows tonight not tomorrow this is a crazy thing about

the comedy scene everywhere it's like we've been doing comedy for i started in 2010 and nine and you started around then i didn't meet you until three years ago yeah yeah i thought i thought you were a new comedian i did too i mean just to my own ignorance basically i started i did my first set january 29 2009 mcgoobies really you did the competition right that's when it was at sully's yeah yeah i remember that i won that and then i went to Ned's with Justin. I remember Ned's with Justin. That was the first place I ever did comedy in Baltimore City. Exactly. And it was connected to a gay bar.

Yeah. And they would come over and heckle us. Really? Like, dude, one time I was getting, and I'm not exaggerating. You remember they had poets? Yes. Poets used to go first. Oh, my God.

There'd be like slam poetry before us. It was horrific. Yeah, where they're like, Ro Holmes, define me. Rape. It would always be rape. I take this pencil.

It was the worst. And then we had to do stand-up. Yeah, and it's just like everyone just killed the vibe. It was so awkward you did good at night yeah then you're good you're good and justin jones ran that show and then i remember like the first time i ever went there and uh i did stand up and it was so scary and obviously it went so poorly but justin jones is such a cool dude he wrote a note in my and then put it in my book, and I opened it later, and it was like, dude,

you're funny. Keep doing this. And I was like, wow. Stuff like that's important. Yeah. It was one night I came there, and he let me headline. Wow. Yeah.

He's a great dude. I love... Every time I see him, I'm in a good mood. Yeah. I love seeing him at McGoobies. He's such a sweetheart. Wow. I wonder if we overlapped some nights. I love every time I see him, I'm like in a good mood. Yeah, I love seeing him at Magoobies. He's such a sweetheart. Wow. I wonder if we overlapped some nights.

I don't remember. We probably have. Yeah. I didn't have a beard. I was so bad. Do you remember Ricky Bledow? Yes. Right?

Yeah, I know that name. Did you go down to Terra Cafe? Yes. I was down there as well. Wow. I did one show at Terra. Maybe two shows at Terror So Terror Cafe is like

Like a black owned Cafe Cafe on 20th Healthy Real healthy food 25th Terrence Dixon Yeah

It's like 25th What is that? St. Paul Is that Mount Vernon? No Charles Village Charles Village Yeah

And it was a black A black show I would say Yeah And I bombed. I bombed hard. I used to bomb a lot, too. Yeah, everywhere. I used to bomb.

I used to always start off extremely well. Yeah. Because you're good at riffing and crowd work. And I think you probably started with that. Right. Because when you're just new, your material sucks. My joke order was out of whack yeah yeah it took me a long time to get that sequence yeah to build it up exactly and

you're also like you probably were like way dirtier when you first started right because now you can do both like i know you can be super filthy but then you can also just be right i think i've always been me it's just like when i see the who like when i look read the audience and it's like okay i can say this and then you know from what the other comedians do yes yeah then i can just weed it out yeah they're the canary in the coal mine like all right i'm not gonna be as filthy here all the black people all the white people you can't say certain stuff yeah no i learned that yeah what's so funny that wednesday yeah when i kept saying jesus all the time yeah what's so funny not jesus yeah not jesus i was trying to write it right on crowd work. But you had him.

I did. And then I let you know what happened was that lady. I got scared that I because I made fun of Pennsylvania Avenue and she got offended. And then I let her take control where I was like, fuck you. I don't give a fuck or something. This is Pennsylvania Avenue. Yeah. Yeah.

You are you ashamed of this shit but i like didn't want to like come off as disrespectful so i was like oh i'm sorry i didn't mean to and then after that it was up and down yeah yeah because once you've kind of relinquished control or like sort of admitting like ah you're right i went too far yeah that i mean that's like the yeah do you what do you think is like the biggest difference between doing like i don't know like i don't know yeah the difference is when you go to a white room yeah they come to laugh really and black people they like make me laugh there is there yeah i've noticed every black person swears that they are funny yes or know somebody right it's funny and i would agree.

Most black people to me, very funny. Yeah. I have a sense of humor at least. Especially if you're going to a show. That's why if you hadn't seen me from Nez and the Terror Cafe, I went along with Larry Lancaster. And that's when I started doing urban comedy. Gotcha. And then I used to still go down the Comedy Factory with Alabama when it was Burks.

Right, right. On Pratt Street. Yeah, Silly Sundays. Yeah. Alex Powers. Wow, yeah. Yeah, that's super old school. That's real old. Was it a good scene where people turning up back then?

It was probably about the same yeah but back then a lot of those people aren't around most people quit that's a thing like a lot of people like when when you go to sidebar now i'm like i don't know any of these people when i go to new people it was like a funny thing like when we i was at uh uh motorhouse and i was just like i joined the circle because i knew a couple people in the circle of comics yeah talking uh everyone's making jokes so i made a joke and this one dude turned to me he's like who the fuck is this and i was like shit i'm like old yeah that's how i feel too when i show up mean, the sidebar has always been one of my favorite work out spots.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, as far as Baltimore goes, that's pretty much the only staple that's been around for years. Yeah, I think the coolest thing, like sidebar is now very mixed in terms of like the comics that turn out. Like it used to be all white, nerdy alti kind of stuff what we do exactly exactly yeah and then now yeah it's very and that yes which is great yeah yeah because when i when i first started it was not too many black no no no now there's too many oh yeah right right i won't

go back but yeah we got a gentrified side sidebar. But yeah, we should put it. What's so funny was also a strong room. Yeah. Because before they went to Pennsylvania Avenue, they were on 25th Street. Oh, they were? Yes. They got about seven, eight years in too. Like that Cajun place?

Jamaican spot. Jamaican, sorry. That Jamaican spot. I did that room once or I tried to. Tried. I was booked in D.C. and that show was supposed to start at 7. And they did not start

at 7. They're like, ah. Or I was booked in Ellicott City. So I was like, bro, that spot's at 9 and it's 8.40 right now. And you haven't even started. You haven't started. I gotta go. I'm sorry. But they've been really nice.

They always reach out to me. So I did their show in Cat when it was at Loafer's on Caton Avenue. And that's where I have the story that's in my special about doing black rooms versus white rooms.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I was getting heckled. And it was... There was like 150 people in that. Because that place is huge that's massive and i bombed so i want to go back i mean they don't do it there anymore but like yeah god i feel like if i went to that same spot now i could kill right yeah well that's the thing i mean black crowds like the same thing you're saying where they're like impress me and if you

do they will give it up for sure that's the best part for sure i mean i've had i've watched black people at like or from stage yeah won't crack a fucking smile on that phone a girl on that phone oh yeah yeah yeah after the show oh my god you were so funny i want to take a bitch why the fuck yeah when i was tell your face why you wasn't laughing you was so funny right it's all the comedy i don't be laughing like that i don't normally be laughing i'm like all right yeah you should it's a human function comedy show yeah what are you doing yeah what's the subject yeah that that's like uh i guess i yeah we were kind of talking about that like last time or maybe that was off mic just like the

like uh now you know once you get to us like you do start doing certain rooms yeah it's hard to go back to the rooms where people aren't there to see comedy yeah it's hard like to go like i did a bar show i think we talked around the pod recently and it's like right and it's just like oh man like i don't want to work that hard yeah so it's it's a weird mental block too because once you've seen it you're like it shouldn't be like but that's how you get strong i know and that's what got you to where you are right because yeah we larry lancaster had oh my god it was the haven and this place was set up the people's backs were to you yes they had booths he invited me to that room and i was too scared to do it yes yeah and me and dave butler

used to always go there and we were bomb bomb really every every sunday oh yeah sunday night a sunday night room at nine o'clock too late on a sunday too late too late but yeah also if you have people that are not facing you already like the room's not primed for comedy from the jump that is a problem yeah you know and then sunday at nine o'clock like people have to turn around to be like what she's saying yeah that is the thing like like i i just like i don't want to fight like if you don't want to hear this it's fine right but like i it does make you stronger yeah there are but there are just times too you're like fuck it i don't want to do this but and the times where you're like all right i am gonna get them that does feel really good i used to always like if it wasn't a lot of people yeah i would i would always bomb oh really

oh same dude and then that's what what's so funny it used to be like when i think somebody think tiana had it and it was just intimate that's when i learned how to do small crowds it's a different muscle because you don't have the cachet of being cool really because in a small room they're like well you're just the same as me you're just on a stage there's like you're like you're no better than me and then you kind of have to bring it a different way yeah right right right i could do that right right right exactly. You're a loser. Yeah, I'm looking at you. Yeah, you suck.

Right. Yeah. So, yeah, it's definitely, it's harder sometimes to do eight people instead of like 150 people. That's just you riding a wave when there's more people. Yeah, exactly. Because they come to laugh. There's an energy there. They're all facing you.

There's a stage. There's lights. Yeah, it's a spectacle. And you can get spoiled that way. yes totally i think i think everyone's pretty aware of like especially because like you're in dc now and like you can you know you get booked in pretty much like most of the hot rooms and like yeah you get spoiled it's it's like you're there's rooms there's audiences and um yeah yeah and that's why i go right on the side bowl monday i know i should humble myself yeah yeah yeah i'm taking my little bomb right they play some a bomb yeah right yeah i mean i feel like you kill there

still like there was a night where everyone was bombing and and then you went up, and you had a great set. I can flow. Yeah. I can honestly free flow at the sidebar. Yeah. And What's So Funny, I could do that as well. Yeah. That whole ice cream joke, that was just one night of What's So Funny. Just the vibe from the audience, and just me just spilling my guts.

Holy shit, and that's your closer now yeah that's dope holy shit yeah that is the cool and scary part about comedy which is great when you can ride that wave and you're like all right i'm being vulnerable in a way and then you're like oh i'm actually getting something out of it too which is fucking great tight yeah but that's how that's part of bombing too it's like two sides that's how i started comedy i never wrote i could never write well you couldn't read it you're like what the fuck is this i think everyone does that i used to write too much and then you try to like read it in your head you're like reading a script yeah no i always the audience has has always chose my jokes yeah my wording everything yeah which is great because that makes you a good

performer because you're paying attention yeah yeah versus like no i'm just gonna recite verbatim what i wrote yeah can't do that yeah it's like bill burr said i think he said it's like think about like you're telling like a story at like a party or something like that like versus like here is exactly word for word what i wrote right Right. Yeah. Nice, dude. Cool. So, 10 years you've been doing stand-up? Yeah. 10 years. 10 years.

Do you still like it? And it took, yeah, 10 years to get an hour set. Nice. Yeah. Have you do, get to do hours? Probably like twice a month. Yeah. Holy shit, where do you do them?

You know, Howard G g books me a lot oh i don't i don't know if i know who that is howard g is one of the top promoters as far as comedy in baltimore oh shit all right howard g has so like i'm on two shows in april holy shit that's what's so crazy there's like so many scenes yeah so many circuits too yeah and that's what i was like i wrote a post about it yeah it's like the mainstream like i don't know why the money isn't how it should be because i can do 10 minutes in a black room and get 150 right right Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't even make that much for my own show. I'm just saying.

It's because it's full of a bunch of whiteys. It is a bunch of whiteys. These guys don't have, you know what I'm saying, the venues. They are booking these venues. DIY. Right. Wait, which guys? The white guys?

Promoters. The mainstream people or promoters? Urban promoters. Urban promoters. Because if I gave, if I paid, and it's not like I'm being stingy, but if I paid everyone $150 who did my show, we would literally be functioning at a deficit.

Because my tickets are only $5 to $7. I was going to say, I think that's the problem there. There's a budget. People are only paying like $7 to be in there. See, the thing is is I don't, like these promoters, they followings oh okay people and you you only charge ten dollars yeah well not even no not even he doesn't even charge 10 right no yeah he shows these shows are 20 and 25 if i charge that no one would come yeah no one would come if i charge that you didn't want white people we didn't want black people yeah which is crazy it is crazy because because blacks are

cheap no wait what do we say but yeah i guess if so is that so there's like well it's an event now because i think that's a marketing thing too exactly yeah they i think you guys market as oh comedy show yeah and the black promoters oh you guys yeah like it's going down hey who's got a we got spaces for boots and all this shit when i showed up to what's so funny and i saw like like all these like um vendors vendors i'm like what is this vendor bullshit yeah yeah like uh desi alexander i love desi and uh he rented out creative alliance and he he he had vendors and all this he had a whole crew with tommy taylor jr is that his name who does ladies night to be there yeah i know he does uh should i get vendors at joe sure oh i'm kidding he does ladies night

at beer baron he has like a masseuse there like doing shit and like they're going around giving shots to people. Yeah. It's the whole thing. I don't like that stuff. I like just a plain comedy show. I like that too. I'll leave money on the table to just have a good plain comedy show.

And I think you have to have the energy for either of those like i'm sure tommy enjoys it's like this is going to be an event right versus this is like bare bones which doesn't mean it's bad but your show is like no we're here for stand up like we're gonna drink and have fun but it's not like hey check out all the booths like on the urban show you got all you got hitters yeah yeah you you got you got you'll have larry you'll have ray you'll have stiletto you're right me yeah killers killer after killer yeah yeah and and most of the mainstream shows is you know what i'm saying it's not like the talent is is not the same it's just the the way that is no i hear and it's all i think it's also a huge culture you can't really get strong

mainstream comedians on the stage together because no so busy well yeah and the money too yeah and those main strong mainstream comedians if they went to those rooms you're talking about would probably not kill that hard i mean i think after a while but yeah if you're not if you're not used to it relearn how to like because i think like sometimes like like uh like when i when i did what's so funny and i was doing crowd work and it was going well and then this lady's like you're just asking those questions tell jokes and like i told one of my jokes, like, which are one of my, to me, like, one of my better jokes that hit hard. And they were just like, ah, this is stupid.

It's more, with anything in comedy, I think your transparency, you know what I'm saying? Your relatableness has to come out. Exactly, yeah. Quick. Right. Like, usually, and, and like when i'm doing um mainstream comedy i kind of draw back from my relatableness and then they just they just

see this person see my life instead of trying to relate to me yeah do you think that's weird because i thought about that with like with you and me. Yeah, do you think that's weird? Because I thought about that with you and other black comics who do white rooms. I think for the most part, like the way you just said it, sometimes it feels almost like, because a lot of these white people who are laughing at you at those shows,

they're not necessarily hanging out with people from your background. So it's a thing like Chappelle talked about. It's like, I started feeling like people were laughing for the wrong reason.

Laughing at me, not with me. Yeah. Do you ever feel that way in mainstream rooms? No, because it's that, it's like,

I tell the truth. Right. So me being a woman or me being, you know, from a different socioeconomic background, it's like I pull some memory, some type of, you know what I'm saying? As I know this person. Yeah. Or it's not more laughing at me.

It's, wow, she know a little secret yeah you know what i'm saying yeah which with comedy i think that's what that's what i love yeah and i think when i'm when i'm sitting there saying that white women you're fucking at 16 you know what i like i was fuck you know what i'm saying? Like, I was fucking, you know what I'm saying? That was, you know, that's like, it's something that y'all kept secret. It's something that we, you know, it was a highlight.

Black girls getting pregnant. But y'all had 16 and pregnant. Y'all had 16. Team Mammo G. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Man, your takes are so smart. Yeah.

So it's just like, now you don't see me as other other right it's like some element of me yeah and you yeah which is great because i well said i think the more specific you get with comedy oddly it's more relatable yes you know what i mean which you would think would be the opposite because you're just like we're all the the same, blah, blah. But it's like, no, if you can really present yourself and your story and your truth, it's more relatable in a way. Yeah. You know?

And I think that's what you pull off. Because, yeah, people are seeing them. Because that's why stories are powerful. You see yourself in the story. Yeah. And the more generic you are. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Wow. But I do have a hard time when... Now, I can tell. If it's a crowd where it's coworkers or people that really don't know each other and they're together. It's weird. It's weird. They don't know what to laugh at with me. Oh, well, that's the worst.

Because if people know, I mean, if you're there with coworkers, you can't be like, I was fucking it. Okay, never mind. Yeah. Because on Monday morning, you'll be like, wow, Kevinvin you're really laughing at that anal joke kevin half babies all the time exactly so that's that's like that's my own that's the one thing i notice if people are together that don't know each other yeah you're gonna have a hard time oh my god especially dates first dates oh dates are the worst. Don't fucking take a date to a comedy show.

Ever. Yeah. Not your first date. Yeah, when you're a couple or whatever, then go. But like a date,

like, first of all, you can't talk. All you want to do on a date is talk. Right. Yes. And then like,

you're not, one of you is not going to laugh at horrible shit. Yeah, because you're trying to impress that person. Yeah,

you're like on a job interview. And then the shit that people talk about. Oh. These days in comedy. days oh sure i i really think comedy's kind of gotten more mild at least mainstream rooms or it's pretty much like people mind their p's and q's more no i think i might be too safe yeah i think i agree i think people are being too safe i think people should take more risks yeah it'll go back i think i think there's just an over correct say anything there's an over correction right now because it was the other way so now they're trying to be like way like way too

woke and it'll come back it will you know you have people like big j that like it's all crowd work and it's all fucked up stuff oh yeah it's. It's great. I love it. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, what's next for you as we wrap up here? Any plugs, any shows you're on? I'm at something at Joe's Square. Oh, yeah. Eric DeDorian plugged that. Oh, yeah. Okay, cool.

The 22nd, I'm there. The 13th, I'm with Howard G. It's the VFW Vulcan Blazers. Oh. I have the Sober Sunday show with Alex Powers headlining. Oh, okay, yeah. At Draft House. Yeah, Pete Bergen's on that.

I saw him plug in that. Yeah. Interesting. So I do that Sunday. Yeah. And real quick, I know we're wrapping up, and this is kind of a bigger question, but how long have you been sober again?

I've been alcohol-free since 2004, June 10th, 2004. Nice. Congrats. I just did 30 days, and I'm glad it's over. Now he's back on his soul. When you wake up on a plane coming back from Baltimore, you're like, all right. Yeah, You're like, we will be landing at rock bottom very soon.

Your next destination? April 12th and 13th, I will be featuring for Kyle Aries at the DC Comedy Loft. I think just a Friday late show. And then 13th, it's early and late. And then the 17th, I'm going to be at Zany's in Nashville doing a showcase.

And the 18th and 19th, I'm on some bar shows there. And then Gin and Jokes, May 2nd with Mike Kaplan. Ba-ba-ba-ba-boom. Former guest to the podcast as well, if you want to check that episode out. Let's see. On the 12th, I'll be at the DC Improv Lounge. On the 13th, I'll be at the DC Improv Lounge. On the 13th, I'll be doing Crybaby DC, and I think they don't have a venue for that. I love that show.

I haven't done it before. This will be my first one. I've done it. It's like a pop-up show, right? Yeah. So they don't have a location for it yet. It was so fun. They were selling weed in the back.

Interesting. I like apartment shows and stuff. Yeah. It was great. Interesting. So yeah, i'll be doing that location forthcoming uh i'll be at the beer baron on the 14th doing a like weird improv show with kevin tit and his group what are they called the midnight gardeners or something

doing their show and then the 18th i'll be at bonkers in uh that weird casino that i did with matt bergman last year we're doing it again where there's a lot of old racist people. That was fun. And so, yeah, we'll be there. And then, yeah, that's all plugged for now. And follow us all on our social media stuff because we're needy and broken. I'm at Josh Coderna on all that stuff. Maria, you want to plug your social media?

Yes. LOL Maria Sanchez on Instagram and Maria Sanchez on Facebook. Cool. Umar Khan 821 on Instagram. There it is. We did it, you guys. Good pod.

All right. David Koechner, take us out. Digression Sessions coming to an end. Thank you.