The Digression Sessions - Ep. 319 - Backyard Sessions 1

Episode Date: June 22, 2020

Hola Digheads, on this week's episode, Josh and Umar are back together but podding from a distance in Umar's backyard. Josh - @JoshKuderna on Twitter and @JoshKuderna on Instagram Watch Umar's special - HERE The Pod - @DigSeshPod on Twitter The Pod's Facebook page - Dig Sesh on Facebook Thanks for listening, all! Do the pod a favor and rate and review the pod on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Laughable, Stitcher, & Spotify plz!

it is the digression sessions we're back uh around each other yeah in a socially distant socially responsible way we're in umar's backyard yeah uh we're we're potting in person but i'd say there's six feet between us. Yeah. And again, six feet. I mean, isn't 5'8 more than enough? Who knows? More than enough. 5'8.

I think, yeah, that's average. And average, I think that's probably better than average. Better. I mean, 5'8, that's probably too much. What are you going to do with all that height? It's, I don't know, probably dunk easily. I would do that. How are you, buddy with all that height what it's i don't know probably dunk easily i would do that uh how are you buddy i'm good it's uh you know the world is uh i don't know if the world is good wait what's going on well what have i met we haven't pot we didn't pod for like two weeks

what did i miss oh crystalia is a fucking pedophile i wouldn't say that's interesting because uh um i got i got carded at the wine source and I was like, whoa, easy, Chris D'Elia. You know what I mean? You know? Yes. No. Yeah.

The whole. We recorded an app and we didn't release it. Yeah. And I think it was good that we didn't. Yeah. I'm glad that we have our jobs. Well, also. No, we didn't say anything bad.

Because if we leave it like that it's like what the fuck did they say uh no so we didn't say anything bad but it's also just i don't know it feels weird commenting on it yeah especially as like a white dude yeah and uh here's my thoughts on it making jokes like even though they're like harmless just like yeah not the right time so right yeah and it is um i mean it is like the the hack joke that everybody does, just like not the right time. Right. Yeah, and it is, I mean, it is like the hack joke that everybody does of just like, who saw this coming in 2020? Like, did you have this on your bingo card for 2020? Yeah.

Like, of all the things regarding race happening, I never would have thought that Bon Appetit's editor would be in the mix. Dude, crazy. Like, they have millions of views where it's like, Claire's like, I'm going to make a starburst from scratch. And they're like, and the editor's racist. Yeah. Whoa. And, like, we're huge Bon Appetit fans.

Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm a huge, like, I follow them all on Instagram. Karen especially, yeah. I watch all their videos. Mm-hmm. And so, but, like, I don't know. Here, so what happened was, was like the the i think he also owns it dude like he co he founded bon appetit oh really i think so if i read it correctly

uh like he's like the chief editor and i think like ceo or like i'm sure he's up there and then uh but i i think i read that he was a co-owner co-founder yeah he like apparently his wife did some through almost how much do you hate your wife that she did a throwback thursday post that got your husband fired he's like babe during all the black lives matter protests that's the content we had to put out a tbt yeah out of tbt so their their tbtT, their throwback Thursday was they dressed up as Puerto Ricans for Halloween. And but like, so people called it brown face, but I don't think he like darkened his skin or anything. I think he just, he wore like a really big jersey and chains.

Like a Yankee. Yeah. Yankees hat. And he shaved his facial hair in a weird way. Whoa. Weird. Is it weird? Well, I mean, just like for like.

All right. We got to start over delete this up hey i've been to puerto rico great people uh i thought you'd be like hey i'm puerto rico yeah uh yeah and he got fired because one of the women on the show was like hey fuck this like this is disgusting well also i don't get paid well yeah so and i think he could have survived that if he was if there wasn't more going on at work. It seems like people were underpaid and then people of color were not listened to and those ideas weren't welcomed. Yeah.

So, I think if you're a guy that's like, yeah, I'm really trying and then to be like, ah, I really fucked up. And like, when was that? Like 2013 or 2012 or something. Dude, to have like, but, oh, that's what is crazy. Like one for that woman to have balls apparently like so when it got leaked he was uh called in a sola right yeah he called it but he called an emergency zoom meeting to talk about it and like apologize i want to see that calendar invite re my racist photo also like it's mandatory like my apology like you have to be there for this yeah

yeah yeah oh that's great i didn't think about that part re my racist picture one o'clock also they're all at home so you're just on your couch and you're just like watching your boss in 2020 you're playing a puerto rican person for Halloween. Okay, you guys saw the TBT. All right, it's no surprise. Oh, my God. That's like a fucking workaholics sketch, dude. It's pretty bad. Speaking of workaholics, Chris D'Elia played a pedophile in workaholics.

That's true. That is. And a pedophile on the show, you. Have you watched you? It's insane. I haven't watched you, no. Evan was really into it, which makes sense. But, like, so I watched it with him.

Wait, why? Why was Evan into it? Evan, he's just like, I don't know how to explain it. He's a weirdo. Well, yeah, I love Evan, who posted a lot of pictures of him in makeup last night. Crazy. Really nice makeup. Wait, we're all over the place.

We are. We are. Bon appetit. I mean, it is a digression session. Yeah, I mean, we're digressing. But, yeah. Bon appetit. We're rusty too we're

we are first first step back in two weeks yeah we are sit we're sitting directly across from each other like it's like the frost frost nixon interviews yeah it's well podcasting right now is such in a strange place because it's like becoming like an industry industry i mean yeah with the joe rogan's deal, like $100 million. So they sit across each other, but at a desk. Yeah. But then most other podcasts have like the two chairs next to each other. Yeah.

You have to turn your head the whole time. That seems ridiculous. Yeah. I get it for camera. You got to be front facing. Yeah. And that's another thing too, is that video really changed podcasting. Yeah.

Who would have fucking thought that people wanted to just sit and watch people talk but i do it yeah i'll check it out and i'm like oh i should actually watch this they're like what's the difference yeah it's crazy there's some podcasts like if you now like because everyone is watching like they'll they don't even try to not talk about visual stuff like oh yeah they make visual jokes and release the audio drives you crazy look at this oh my god what does he do yeah that is insane like one podcast luis j gomez he did a whole podcast where he was doing magic throughout it all listen to it i still loved it and it was so good i watched it oh i didn't watch it i didn't even i just put it on while i was working yeah dude i was like yeah if if I didn't have this on, like, it's so enjoyable.

Yeah. I love the audio of it, too. It's like I know it's bad, and I don't even have to see it. But anyway, okay, let's circle back. All right, so Bon Appetit guy, Puerto Rican. He's not Puerto Rican. Did you also see one of the comments? It was, like, another food editor, like, kind of person known in that world.

She wrote, uh like great costumes i was so scared of you guys that night yeesh and you're just like hers is worse you know they're just imitating puerto ricas but she's saying they're scared like this is the scariest halloween party i've ever been to. This is insane. Yeah. Also, what's so scary about a guy in a baggy jersey and a fucking- Of course. Yeah. A chain, like a gold chain necklace. What's scary about-

Well, yeah. I think she was just kidding. Yeah. I hope. I mean- God. Yeah. Well, also, and it wasn't that long ago.

What's the worst that's going to happen? He's going to try to sell you like a Dave Matthews band ticket. My man. He's just scalping outside. Just keeps calling every, you're not even going to get into it. Not even going to riff off. Yeah, I bought a Blink-182 ticket because I had tickets and my brother had a ticket, but our friend was coming and we bought off of a scalper and it was insane this dude pulled a

stack of tickets out of his pocket whoa and i just remember thinking like oh this is not gonna work and it fucking worked it was tight nice yeah yeah i don't i don't think i've ever scalped anything i think maybe my dad did going in like an orioles game or something yeah and i was like is this legal yeah my parents would do that we would buy tickets out front yeah like don't worry don't worry about it come on in but now they do all that shit anyway with like stub hub and everything and anyway this week sponsor racism yeah so but and then so while they're doing the zoom meeting where he's apologizing that's when she yeah the mountain she said i want you to resign. Could you imagine? I was just like, whoa.

And it worked. He's in the Zoom and he's like, ah, my Wi-Fi is breaking up. Actually, we're going to cut it short here again, guys. I'm sorry. Oh, Time Warner. I can't hear anybody. She's like, you know what? We're going to cut it short there.

Ends of me. God damn, dude. That's so funny. Oh, yeah. I bet he was not expecting that either he's like yeesh all right yeah but then you look at the picture you're like ah it's not great that's 10 years ago nine years ago it's still not great it is so funny it's like it was a different time it's like we were in obama's second term like who yeah i started comedy in

2010 and from even 2010 to like 2013. Yeah. In those three years, the stuff that you could get away with. Oh, sure. I mean, like the amount of people that are just using the R word as just a punchline, you know? Yeah, dude. Like ridiculous. Ten years ago.

Yeah. And so but stuff just changes really quickly. Totally. And yeah, it's still not a not a great look but also like the same amount of photos that are out there i'm sure it's insane of like pimps and hoes parties and stuff where it's like just inherently racist where it's like we're all gonna dress like pimps and yeah or like i like it seems like like clockwork once a year a video gets released of a bunch of white chicks in a party bus singing like a rap song oh and then just going right in there but then you just keep or they they just will say stuff like yeah you're just like how would you not think this would get leaked

like why would you not ever once a year why was that a good idea i remember when i was in college too like facebook just came out yeah and everybody was just posting it was like silo cup yeah or yeah the so like it'd be like a party and then it was in the days of like digital cameras and people would just be like well i took 300 photos so i should upload 300 photos and be like the party on friday and everybody's drunk and you're like what are you doing? And we posted pictures just like our parents took pictures like no framing no like I care about the lighting

just like yeah just horrible like insane. I remember I got drunk at a party and there were like seven photos of me where it's like mid like me blinking and like talking like you tagged me in that? What are we doing? Why? It's so funny and now every picture is like so artsy yeah or like even like dude like i'll judge pete like my mom will

post the pictures of food she made i'm like ah what she didn't even fuck it why we got so much dead space up here my mom's photos of her food looks like she could just be taking a picture of her counter to show to like uh yeah to show to like a carpenter to be like can you fix these you know just yeah there happens to be like there happens to be a plate of food and it's just like everything else well uh bon appetit if you're listening and i know you are i think you found your new editor as we're gone yeah oh yeah she's like why we why are we spending so much money on a photographer i got it crazy um yeah that went down we got a chris d'elio not great uh that week yeah i saw three people get fired that week oh that's right like my professor yeah uh i fucking cares the baltimore improv group director yeah and it's all for race-related things.

I didn't know him that well, so I was out of the Baltimore Improv Group before he came in. Yeah, I don't know him either. But I've done some shows with him. He was very nice, but I've only had limited interactions with him. Well, Josh, you're white, so...

That's true. Yeah, and I gotta say, when we were at the Klan rally, he was so nice. Hey. The nicest guy. No. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Yeah, and I got to say, when we were at the Klan rally, he was so nice. Hey. The nicest guy. No. I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. Yeah, crazy. Chris D'Elia? Most people don't even know who he is. Really? Yeah. He's like one of the biggest comedians, I would say. I would say most people, people who listen to this know.

Yeah. By the way, thank you to the two people who reached out and said they missed the podcast. God bless you guys. Yeah. And yeah that was podcast god bless you guys yeah um and yeah this is the content you're getting but yeah i mean i'm sure everybody has takes on delete and i don't really have a take but i do just and i hate the twitter like mob justice yeah too where it's like it's good that people are speaking out but then also like neil brennan caught a lot of shit because he's like i don't know due process right yeah but then you get into shit too where it's like well is there going to be a due process is there actually going to be a case from this is it going to be fair um so yeah it is it is tough

when like tons of people come out and then you're gonna be like i mean i guess you gotta believe anyway uh well it came out like that he just messages girls there are a lot a lot of them were under age like 15 to 17 yeah i don't think a lot were i mean i don't know i only saw like one thread but it seemed like they're all pretty young and uh he he called his fans babies that's my biggest thing bad that's also do you know how many clips of him talking about young girls there are i saw i saw one. I saw two more today. I saw the one where he's like, 14.

Girls don't look 14. They look fucking 30. Yeah. So then there's another picture or video of him doubling down on that sentiment and just like, just saying something like, he's like, hey, man. He's like, hey, man. 15-year-olds, they're not kids. They're teenagers.

Yeesh. This is from years ago. I'm just saying that. 15. And then there's two videos of Theo Vaughn making fun of the fact that he hooks up with young girls. And he specifically says 17. I saw the one with Andrew Santino. There's another one with just him.

Oh, man. Yeah. specifically says i saw the one with andrew santino there's another one with just him oh man um yeah i mean it's dude regard like regardless of like this the state of his innocence his career is over i think yeah i think his hardcore podcast followers will be there but he's never getting you talking about the babies the babies babies will be there also so many people have chrystalia tattoos do they yeah and they have uh that's where you just get a circle and a line through it The babies will be there. Also, so many people have Chris D'Elia tattoos. Do they? Yeah. That's where you just get a circle and a line through it. They have life rips tattoos.

That's like his slogan. I know. Yeah. And it's really tough, too, when your whole brand is like, I don't care. Yeah. I'm hip. I'm cool. Unsuspecting.

Just normal. Yeah. It's like, it's whatever. And then, yeah. So then when you do stand-up, what do you do? I'm hip. I'm cool. Unsuspecting. Just normal. Yeah. It's like, it's whatever. And then, yeah, it's, it's. So then when you do stand up, what do you, what do you do? Do you have to change and be like, I'm so sorry. Oh, so then I saw a clip of his stand up that he talks about.

He's like, how come all like, how come all little girls like scratch their pussy from behind? Oh my God. Yeah, dude. You're just like what which is like i think is probably just a joke but it's weird it's not great yeah like if you're in court you're like ah fuck i wish you didn't bring that up all right and then like that's like the worst i'm like i'm a comedian your honor but i'm thinking like it just gets more and more specific he's like what's with the deal that like how 16 year olds email have you ever seen this shit?

The email's so weird. Have you ever been emailing with a 15-year-old? And the crowd's like, I don't know where this is going. I saw that clip, and I was just like, oh, my God, dude. Yeah, it's like Cosby with the Spanish fly. Did you ever see that? Yeah, insane. They put that in their drink, and they're all like, oh.

Yeah, that's great. Also, what's up with the dude, Cos he like he was like i don't cuss but i hang out the playboy mansion all the time and i don't hide it yeah way weirder he's a piece of shit all the all the you could say those women are kind of like yeah like in the sex trade industry or sex sex workers sex worker supporting them supporting them you gotta support your uh sex workers it's so funny i mean at least that's like above board but yeah it is funny to be like pull up your pants young man now you with the titties get over here yeah um but yeah it's it's always the people that are like you know even like the republicans or the people that are like being gay

is disgusting and then they get caught and you're like all right um hey most clean comics i i guess nate bargazzi's not like that but anybody that's like you shouldn't be doing x y and z it's like why the fuck do you care yeah then it turns out they're doing it but yeah he has all these jokes about like like he has a whole bit about after louis where he's like about guys keeping in their pants oh really yeah it's well bizarre yeah i mean i guess because it's technically consensual yeah um but this is what's crazy but it's still gnarly yeah the dude from brand new got in trouble for that too the grooming thing of like hitting up like 17 year old chicks or yeah so many think about before the internet like how many bands are just

hooking up with teenagers dude it was like it was like being like a criminal before like in the wild west yeah where you're just like i'll just keep moving no one will know like crazy yeah but uh so uh well the the i mean i even saw it happen in my own high school. Oh, yeah? Yeah, when we would go to shows. Yeah, even my girlfriend at the time went and saw The Used, and they were like, hey, you guys should come backstage. We're all like, cool. And they're like, no, no, no, just them. And they're like, okay, great.

And I'm like, all right. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, and they're like 17, you know? And they're like, yeah, they really just like yeah they really just like us i'm like you're not like playing chess with these people right yeah they're not just like wow you have such an interesting mind uh you're in 11th grade yeah wow i love talking to you imagine like just hang you're just like you just got done playing a show now you're talking to a 17 year old live in the i mean no wait that's bad no yeah that's what i'm saying it's so strange

it's great you're just drinking a beer talking to a 17 year old yeah you're like man world history huh yeah so have you applied to any schools well the crazy thing about chris leah is like would you like to play sudoku with me i love your mind chris leah is like messaging 14 or not 40 maybe like you keep going young you're like 11 like this woman's pregnant and he's just sliding into the womb like hey what up people said 15 was youngest most of it was people just saying he did this or he did that some people i did see one where it was a screen grab from a girl that was like i'm 17 he's like oh whoops yeah and then he messaged her a year later oh he did oh my god the creepy part is and another

girl pointed out it's like so he messaged me in air like i live told him i live in arizona yeah and we're texting and he just kind of and i told him like he's too old or whatever yeah and then like five months later he's like hey i'm in arizona want to hang out because he's doing shows and she's like how did he remember me that's insane oh yeah i'm guessing he probably messaged like tons of fans yeah and he's just a random he's a celebrity dude it's just like he probably meets tons of people yeah just like excellent record keeping he has like an excel file yeah so he's messaging young girls and it's weird yeah and then he plays a pedophile twice twice at no point do you just go like no like this is we this is a bad look you don't look at the me too movement you don't get worried um and then you do a 10 minute

segment on your podcast about how pedophilia rings in hollywood aren't real do you see that god yeah amount of stuff it just gets worse and worse it's so it's just so specific too dude he goes on like a 10 minute rant about how crazy people are to think that like there's like pedoph like that uh pedophile rings hollywood people are like passing kids through one another i'm like i don't know epstein yeah literally literally had an island for it yeah yeah yeah and then you hear about dudes like um fuck what's his name like brian singer that director he would just have parties in his house where it's like yeah let's have the young boys dodged all of his i mean people still bring it up but yeah it's weird that he works yeah they're like hey the guy that has those weird charges he should make the x-men movie that is like a crazy ego to be

like yeah yeah I know that I'm also in this day and age you're texting girls like you don't get scared of like the screen grabbing I I think it's I think it's like what you're saying I think it's just an ego thing and you're so far in it and you're like all right well what if they screen grab it they just see that it's consensual but it's like yeah that's not the point the funny part was like then some 19 year old so it'd be like he messaged me i was only 19 and they go screen grabs all right well that's different it's like why do you think guys become famous it's still not great it's not great because i was thinking about like performing at umbc and i don't think i've done it maybe it was like two years ago maybe three years yeah now i don't know but still i was what i the youngest or oldest i would be is like

20 no i started when i was 26 so yeah i would be like 27 or 28 yeah and then seeing college kids oh yeah it's gross they look like babies yeah like they're yeah they're all chris lewis fans shout out to the babies then they look like babies they had the merch and i remember talking to him his fans are young because he is comedy is stupid so it appeals to young people yeah a lot of act outs and being cool yeah it's like a dane cook like if i was in high school i probably might think oh i'm sure there were so many chicks that are just into it too like let's not kid ourselves like when i saw the pete davidson show at the dc improv i was like god damn yeah but it's so weird because he's not like a super famous guy so like how did all these chicks get to like he's just like this who weird comedian pete davidson yeah pete davidson uh i mean how did he get super popular well okay so two things so he's he's young he's

gonna have tattoos he's a bad boy he was on SNL which is still a huge profile yeah and the biggest thing was he was engaged in dating Ariana Grande yeah that's that's a crazy that's when gals are like who the fuck is this but I think he was already kind of on the map there imagine uh that's gotta be a weird feeling like when the news hits that you're engaged or dating ariana grande yeah and then the next day you probably have like 500 000 new followers oh i'm sure but also people in your messages like you fucking suck yeah you know or those people but then it's funny to hear like new york comics that we like listen to and some like we've met and worked with yeah to them like they know pete davidson they hang out with pete davidson they're like to find out that like you're one of your good friends like who you started comedy

with is dating like one of the most like yeah famous people in the world oh yeah you're just like what the fuck fucking pete yeah oh special wasn't good though oh i didn't watch it yeah there's not a lot of specials that i can watch like the full thing the chappelle thing is hard uh the chappelle thing yeah that happened it's called a special it's not jokes it's 22 minutes i mean it's still 47 oh is it yeah yeah my bad. But yeah, it's still fucking, it was so good. I mean, it's important. I'm glad that he did it. Yeah, it is good.

The only part, do you see all the criticism he got? The Dave Chappelle thing? No. People are saying he never mentioned any black women that died. Oh, he didn't? No. Huh. Or like trans.

So they're saying he's transphobic and uh he doesn't care about black women a lot of people are saying that well also like twitter it was off the cuff too i don't think i mean i'm sure some of it was planned yeah he also says a lot of names he didn't say any women interesting no i know but i didn't catch it either damn well that's because we're misogynist pieces of shit hey what are you gonna do but it was funny because because at one point, he talks about how Don Lemon, we're like, where are these celebrities? And he starts naming people one by one. And he said Dave Chappelle.

Well, he's like, yeah, say my name. I dare you. And Dave Chappelle's like, I don't need to talk. The streets are talking for themselves. But it's like, well, you are releasing a special. Yeah. I mean, I guess there were enough people too they're like you should say yeah but it was really good i've watched it three times damn yeah i have to re-watch it somebody

described it as going to church and i was like yeah i could see that damn i would love to go to that church i was gonna say if you enjoyed the church but yeah because it was yeah i mean it kind of is just ruminating on current events in a way that you're like yeah um yeah i liked the beginning he's like i'm gonna kind of riff around you guys you guys are black and white huh yeah all right fuck he's like what am i doing yeah and then he uh leaned into the uh laurie ingram thing he's like and she is a fucking cunt it's like whoa that's so cool i i i that did really bother me though the hip uh hypocrisy of that did you see that no so she so the reason he was saying that is because when lebron and some people in the nba were criticizing trump she literally was saying like um why don't

you just stick to sports uh what's the phrase? Shut up and dribble? Yeah, stick to that. And then Drew Brees says something, a white quarterback, is like, yeah, I don't know if I agree with kneeling. And he got a lot of flack for that. And she was like, last time I checked, Drew Brees is an American that can have an opinion. And I'm pretty sure he's an outstanding citizen.

So why can't he say what he wants? And it's like this clear double standard. And you're like, what's the difference here? Why can Drew Brees? And they don't even care. We live in a, dude, it's an insane time. And then she's like, it's kind of Stalin-esque to tell him not to say anything. And it's like, literally, like, I don't know, a year ago, less than a year ago,

you're telling LeBron James to shut up and dribble? Dude, this country is crazy like it's dude i got off social media like not off but i deleted all the apps and i check it way less and i'm really not participating yeah i feel so much better it's just two of the extremes like yelling at each other it's crazy yeah and it's um i mean i'm i'm still on it because i don't know i like to be updated and yeah straight up it's just an addiction too oh yeah like you just find yourself to scrolling scrolling scrolling be like there's nothing here okay all right all right yeah close it and then immediately just click it again yeah it's not good i was like tired of looking at

my phone i'm just like fuck this dude i'm tired of scrolling through it also makes you hate people like for no reason oh yeah and you're just like twitter's hiding people's stuff you're just like i can't yeah it's a lot twitter is tough too because it's usually i like twitter because there's news or breaking news yeah supposedly but i'll go check that in the morning i'm like well i wish i didn't do that it's like glaciers are melting at 90 faster oh yeah i've been listening to a lot more uh like smart podcasts again uh-huh so that's been nice just like it's nice to like i like it you're on social media you're getting some npr related oh yeah i've been reading that book uh sapiens it's

like dude the book's insane. It's so good. I've heard of it. What is it? It's just about the history of humans, and it's just so well written that anyone can pick it up and read it. Yeah. It's entertaining. Yeah.

His world's always been crazy, and it's like... Yeah, of course. He also thinks that homo sapiens, as they exist today, we have probably a thousand more years to live as a species. That's a pretty good run. Yeah. And he's like, that wouldn't even be close to being the longest run, though. Oh, no. I think we've been around...

How long have we been around? Maybe 160,000 years ago. Okay. Is when sapiens who look like us were walking this earth. Just like, well, probably what, like 1690? Yeah. So, but there was another group of homo sapiens that lived for 2 million years. Oh, interesting.

Well, and then we're a mix of what? Neanderthal and homo sapien, right? Is the theory? Well, no. Homo and then we're a mix of what? Neanderthal and Homo sapien, right? Is the theory? Well, no. Homo sapiens are all humans, and then there's different types under that. So we're one, like, but I can't remember if we're Neanderthals. Oh, I like that. Well, we're not.

I think there's like a mix. See, that's the thing. You read so much, and you lose most of it. It's also Neanderthal. Neanderthal, yeah. Yeah, I think well, I just remember seeing something that was like, there's evidence that

Homo sapiens and Neanderthals made it. And it's like, yeah. Yeah, they probably did, he said, yeah. But I can't remember if that's... I think we wiped them out, though. Yeah, we did. Yeah. Because they were stronger, but we were, because our brains are bigger. We were smarter. We could, we had the the cognitive revolution

he calls it so like so funny too to be listening to that and just have like a bag of cheetos and be like fucking idiot near it all like just sitting on your couch doing yeah you guys are stupid yeah so uh anyway but like yeah so like because we have bigger brains and we have language we can like communicate and come up with like strategies and they can't do that. Right. That's probably why they lost. Right, right, right. Well, yeah, be smart, you know, be strong and smart.

Crazy. But anyway, yeah, I've just been trying to read more and just, dude, it's like this. It'll drive you crazy. You just wake up, you look at it and it's just horrific shit after horrific shit and it's not like don't stay informed but it's just like i don't think social media is like the way to stay informed well also i don't think our brains are speaking of like evolution we're not prepared for all of this information that quickly all the time we're like jesus christ yeah we yeah we're not that's what anxiety and depression is it's

like prolonged periods of like exposure to that worrying yeah when uh like in nature like you worry for like short bursts at a time yeah yeah you know but like because no one thinks about the future because we're always thinking about the future or we're dwelling on the past yeah it's like fucking with us gotta be present man with it yeah anyway but uh but then you find out like it is soothing to read like oh yeah we're all gonna die like literally nothing matters thousand years that's honestly more than i thought like well with global warming and everything then you listen to some climate scientists are like yeah if we don't stop what we're doing if we don't intervene somehow and cut our greenhouse gases. Emissions. Or emissions.

Yeah. That, yeah, we have like two more generations left before the world, before we start like going extinct. Like when it begins. But it's going to get worse before that. Yeah. It's like shortages of water and crops and all that. It's not going to be great. Good times.

Good times. But, you know, it's good now. We got on demand. We got podcasts. Yeah. It's not going to be great. Good times. Good times. But, you know, it's good now. We got on demand. We got podcasts. Yeah. We can pretty much get food. Yeah. Wally pretty much called it.

Yeah. Things are good. Oh, it's going to be bad. Things are good. Yeah. So, I mean, we'll be dead. Yeah. That'll be nice.

But then, yeah, you're like, should I have kids? Dude, like, yeah. I watched some video or read. I can't remember i read an article or i think it was an article where like in not that long from now like the next couple decades maybe the the earth's temperature is going to reach so it's going to get so hot that like human sweat won't be able to keep us cool. And so you're going to have to stay indoor. So then we're going to have to have these huge lifestyle changes, and people are going to have to stay indoors when it's sunny out.

And then they're saying, but then people are going to use their air conditioning more, and that's going to make more greenhouse emissions. Yeah, yeah, because you're using more electricity and everything. And then in Saudi Arabia already, there's parts there where they just have like mist, like poles that deliver mist on the street because it's so fucking hot. Insane. Crazy. Insane. Yeah, that's the type of stuff you see on Twitter.

And you're like, well, why did I look at this at 730 in the morning? India reached 120 degrees several days this past summer. Very nice. Not great. Pleasant. I like it's very nice not great pleasant i hear it's a dry heat i was i had a good premise a joke idea like i'd send it to chris allen uh and i was like dude it's so funny like just like after we get rid of like covid and then if we ever do tackle like the issue of race in this country like black people are gonna have like a good 40 years to enjoy the world before it's over that that's that yeah like the ultimate joke yeah it's like oh

whoops yeah no go ahead that's all yours it's like someone like saying you can have like a car that hasn't moved in over 30 years yeah yeah like jeff bezos is like he's like actually you know what uh i'm president i've been president for a long time. Actually, I think, yeah, we should have equality all the way down the line. Absolutely. Black people, you know what? You're in control now. And then they just take off and they go to Mars.

All the rich white people just colonize the moon. They're like, yeah, no, you can have it. Yeah, that would be great. Enjoy the last 30 years. Yeah, and it's not even just America, dude. The world. Of course. Hates black people.

So it's like crazy. Yeah, there's just so, yeah. I was trying to think. I was like. But could you imagine for most of you, like for the last, I don't know, when do you think slavery started? Oh, I mean, it's still going on. It was like 16-something in Africa. Yeah, like a knock on your face. do you think slavery started like oh i mean it's still going on 16 something in africa

and uh yeah like a knock on your face i don't know but like for most of like i mean i'm sure slavery was around probably like existence like like black people were enslaved well yeah i'm sure there were tons i mean i'm sure china had slaves oh in asia oh yeah yeah but like and then the world just to end well we the world will be here but world will die oh thank god yeah thank god um yeah and that's another thing too like thinking about all this stuff and maybe we talked about on the podcast we didn't put out, but when you're taught in school, and you already know for sure. I mean, you learn some more,

but in middle school or even elementary school, they're like, there was slavery. That was bad, and we realized that, and then we had the Civil Rights Movement in the 60s, and there was still some bad stuff, but then we fixed it then, and it's all fine now. Yeah, that is how you're taught it and then you're like oh wait this is every like it's not just like periods that like and that's the end of

that chapter it's like no no all that persists and there's a through line there with like red lining and everything else and dude i didn't learn about that until like four years ago right right right yeah i mean not even in college yeah well since i was a history major don't want to brag on this broadcast but yeah a lot of the american history was just like this is pretty rough huh dude we dress up as pilgrims oh yeah i mean we celebrate columbus yeah like kids literally dress up as murderers yeah and like rapists well i mean okay that was a different time it was 2013 and when i invited you to my murderers and rapists party i remember in kindergarten i was i was dressed up as a pilgrim yes and i sat also why did they just make me an indian you know well i think it was too on

the nose oh yeah and uh like not 7-eleven yeah she would build like she took we had these big blocks like rectangle blocks and she would build like a boat out of it. I was going to say, it sounds like she was just putting you to work. Dude, my friend played Christopher Columbus and like all the parents came and took pictures. There's still Christopher Columbus Day. Insane. Yeah. He's a good guy.

So funny. Like he discovered America where there were people already there and we're like, right, yeah, he discovered it. Yeah. Okay. Crazy. Okay. And also he was just in like the West Indies too.

He wasn't in, you know, like you think you're like, oh yeah, he like landed in like Georgia. It's like, no. Yeah. He was in like the Bahamas. Oh really? Yeah. So he didn't discover, he never set foot on. I mean, he might've, but when he first landed, it was in the West Indies.

So like the Bahamas area. Huh. I'm pretty sure um so did he come back and go to he might have but when he landed there he just assumed he was like oh the new world has like gold and everything and he was like hey bring me some gold and they're like we don't know what the fuck you're talking about first of all and he's like all right well if you don't bring me gold i'm gonna cut off your hand yeah so and they're like we don't have any i don't know what you're talking about so like he just murdered and maimed tons of people like literally like raped and pillaged like truly an awful guy yeah

and we're like hey should we have the day off for him yeah well that got tied into italian pride because there was a lot of uh negative stereotypes Italian Americans and they would get discriminated against. Yeah. And so I can't remember what year it was. So they came up like, oh, hey, Columbus is an Italian. He discovered America. We should respect our Italian heritage. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so. Cobb. Cobb, you got to behave. Cobb, are you an Italianb? Cobb, you got to behave. Cobb, are you an Italian-American? Cobb? Hi, handsome. Oh, all right. You got to pee?

Go pee, Cobb. He's being chill. Anyway. Also, what about... Yeah, he's just... I'm kind of blanking here, but isn't America named after Amerigo Vespucci? I have no idea. I'm pretty sure.

I haven't gotten that far in the book of america i'm gonna look it up but but yeah i mean all all of that stuff is fucked up where yeah your history it's like what are we doing here be careful these chairs are kind of cheap oh we're doing i mean i don't care but i just don't want you to get hurt no it feels for five bucks it feels pretty sturdy oh really from like a craigslist thing they were like you know what slavery is wrong hey i got these chairs for so cheap i'm like how like built by slaves uh that's another thing too that you learn is uh we still use so much prison labor in this country yes um where i work for the federal government um one of my uh one of my jobs is to do um

uh what we call like reimbursables so like so that's basically if you do business or if another company or agency does business with us where it's like hey that's not really our job you guys should pay us for that like whatever service you're using and vice versa too so one of our reimbursables that came in was for this company called unicorn and they do the furniture for the federal government and it was like 32 million dollars and i was like whoa what company is getting and also the agency is nationwide and all that stuff so it's like all right that could make sense yeah and then you look into it unicorn is a company under the department of justice which uses federal prison labor to make furniture to make furniture for office buildings

well for the federal government yeah and they can be contracted by the uh private business industry as well damn and then you look at their website and they're like, what we're doing is we're giving federal inmates a chance to learn a trade so they can probably get hired and blah, blah, blah.

And then you look at like, it's like, okay, what are the percentages of people getting hired out of it? They're like 15%, but still. And then what they get paid is something like 15 cents

to like $1.10 an hour. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nutty. And it was established in the 30s. And it's under the Department of Justice. So that's another thing where you're like, hey, no, slavery's over. And you're like, okay, is this the same slavery you learned about that was happening in the South?

It was like on the, you know, making cotton and all that stuff. And then you're like, wait, we have federal prisoners making furniture for 15 cents an hour, even at the highest. Okay, let's say they make $1.25 an hour. I would pay them more to build my Ikea furniture. I'm like, dude, come come here two bucks an hour come on that's a steal bro you want to be woke you ever heard of task rabbit they take like 12 hours to build everything to build like a bookshelf um yeah but then there's there's other kind of like whole foods uses prison labor oh they do yeah uh i think in the, in like the farms and stuff. Oh shit.

I have to look into it, but yeah, there's tons of government, like bank of America uses it too. How do they use it? Um, they are working in the fields. No,

I don't, I don't know. Probably just like their janitors, janitors and stuff could be, or like they could also be building stuff too. I don't know. God. Woo.

That's nuts yeah it would be funny to like where you're calling like a helpline with bank of america it's just connected to a federal prisoner yeah they're the ones handling all your transactions damn that's crazy yeah so that's the same thing where you're like oh slavery's over that's that's fine and you're like the department of justice is using federal prison labor well dude think about like like like drivers for like uber and lyft and amazon yeah it's nowhere near slavery those jobs are just poor people being worked worked to debt like amazon specifically yeah just you just like paying them nothing and making them work no breaks like you're like you're just like hey if you don't like it we're gonna

fire you you know yeah and we'll find other people if you unify we'll fire you yeah that's crazy yeah but then amazon just gets to put up a Black Lives Matter banner on their website. I'm loving all of these commercials, too. They were like, hey, other corporations are pieces of shit, but we're not. And these times, it's important to have each other. More than ever. Anyway, Wells Fargo. You're like, oh, okay. Yeah, I saw a thing on Amazon where they were using recent immigrants would be working at the warehouse,

but they would be, they'd be working there not as Amazon employees. They would work for like a company that would contract them out. So it's like, they're not technically Amazon employees. And then, so if they would get in like an accident or something or something would happen at the warehouse amazon's like we're not responsible you're not our employee you're a contract employee and then that company would be like well also it didn't happen on the grounds of our company it happened there so we're not responsible either and like whoo just dude disgusting god but yeah we're like i don't know i need a new pair of running shoes it means they're here on tuesday like i do need a new pair yeah you have to make appointments it's a bummer to get running shoes yeah because you can't like have everyone in in the same time oh yeah but don't you know

what you want uh yeah i guess what do you mean they have it in the system i should just call them i was gonna say you've been running enough it's not like you're yeah but i like to just switch it up i always just get another pair right running enough. It's not like you're. Yeah, but I like to just switch it up. I always just get another pair. Right. But I mean, it's not like what you need has changed. Right. That's true. It's not like now you run on the outside of your foot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Yeah. I'll just stop by. You've been running? Oh, yeah. Been running. It's been fun.

Nice. But I think my gym might open up this weekend. Are you going to go? I'm going to go. All right. Well, I'm going to go. All right. Well, I'm going to get a longer cord. We'll just do a little more distance. We'll see.

I don't know. Interesting. Try to buy some dumbbells. You cannot find dumbbells unless you want to pay some kid $100 a piece. Oh, yeah. Yeah, everybody got those from the home workout stuff. Yeah, I'm going to do home workouts. I'm like, I can only run.

I do not like, like, I don't like home workouts. I like it. It's good. I got the ab wheel. I got some weights that I've had for a while. Then my dad had some 30-pound dumbbells. Ooh, that's perfect. And he gave me those, and I was like, nice.

So, yeah, I've been doing that, and then I got some resistance bands, too. Nice. Which are good. So, yeah, I've been trying been trying to do like push-ups with resistance bands like over my back so it forces me down maybe i should do it i just fucking can't i get no motivation unless i'm at the gym to do well i think you're lifting so i try to break it up in like time increments because you're like well fuck it i don't want to do this so like with the push-ups i'll do i try to do 10 every minute for 10 minutes yeah sometimes more but then you're like, well, fuck it. I don't want to do this. So with the push-ups, I'll do, I try to do 10 every minute for 10 minutes. Yeah.

Sometimes more. But then you're like, okay, it's just 10 fucking minutes. Right. That's not bad. So you do that and then you knock that out and you're like, okay, well, then if I do some ab stuff, I'll do five minutes of that or 10 minutes. Yeah. All right.

Yeah, that's true. So if you try to break it up into those increments, I'm like, oh, that's not bad. Because you think like, all right, I'm working out and blah, blah. Right. And then it's easy to space it out too. So I'll just have the timer. My thing is like because I don't have weights with me right now. So then I have to like Google exercise because I don't know that many exercises, you know,

like those, what are those like the HIIT workout things or whatever where you're just like doing like you're essentially just doing like. Like CrossFit stuff? Yeah. where you're just like doing like you're essentially just doing like um like crossfit stuff yeah it's i guess like crossfit where you're just like where you're gonna do like one thing is like you do 100 air squats and you do oh yeah 60 these and then you do 40 jacks and stuff yeah and then so but like you know there's all these different exercises you have to learn each one and it's just like yeah and I'm like, I don't know. Maybe I'll just do simple push-ups, sit-ups.

Maybe get a pull. I was thinking about getting a pull-up bar, and I was like, I don't want to fucking mount this goddamn thing. You don't have to. You can take it down. Oh, yeah. You get the ones that go in your doorway, so you can slide it in and then take it out when you're done.

Those are great. My dad has one of those that I like. But yeah, push-ups are good. I like my ab wheel. like that yeah i have an ab wheel do that shit i should do that yeah i've been doing those that i've been doing like plank it's like push-ups or something i don't know yeah i'm sure people love this hey what do you want yeah we're catching up we're trying hey everybody you know you want to work out at home. Yeah. I do have a story, but I'm like scared to tell it. Well, we're... Are we out of time? No, we're like 46 minutes in.

Man, this is going by. This is a tough hour. It's a good one. All right. Well, yeah, I'll tell it. Fuck it. But I'm not trashing anyone. It's just being comedic.

But I... But the Jews are... Yeah, that's the one thing about podcasting outside. You're just people if they can hear you there's like what the fuck is this so you know i was in this like uh okay so all the protests are happening last week two weeks i can't remember has it been two weeks since the first protest uh maybe like three weeks i would say wow this might be the third week whoa time is flying yeah so i guess three weeks ago two weeks ago you know protests are happening like every day they might still be happening i'm tuned out yeah uh so the the pastor of this local church in my neighborhood in Hamden,

I don't know if he listens to this, but it's fine. He's a cool guy. He's a nice guy. Let me say this. If he does, God bless him. God bless him. So he reached out to me, and he was just like, Hey, I want to put together not a protest, but a solidarity event to show that like we

stand with black lives matter we support black lives matter and we do think black lives matter and he thought it was important especially because like historically hamden has been seen as and is white a white racist has a lot of history of racism yeah a long history of racism and uh and even to this day like some people like don't feel comfortable coming here yeah they're not white and stuff happens people yell stuff yeah so i mean yeah it's getting better but yeah it's it's yeah it ain't a great history and And me and Jim are cool, but we don't hang. We don't talk. You don't hang out with the pastor?

No, I don't hang out with him. But he's one of those I drink and I cuss kind of pastors. I love those guys. Yeah, you know, and the Chris D'Elia types. But no, I'm just kidding. I love you, Jim. He hit you up via email? He sent me a Facebook message. We're Facebook friends. First, he was like, how old are you? Yeah, yeah, Jim. He hit you up via email? He sent me a Facebook message.

We're Facebook friends. First, he was like, how old are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he asked me this, and I'm like, why is he asking me this? And I'm like, oh, I'm probably the only not white person he knows in Hamden, but I'm not black. Yeah. Which was not true.

Again, the subject of the email is like re you being my only non-white yeah which is not like true because when i signed on to the zoo meeting to which i'll talk about later like there were black people there but so i was like hey man how many black people are involved in this because i don't think we should because you have a quota oh yeah yeah but also we shouldn't be doing anything. Because you have a quota. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. But also, we shouldn't be doing anything without like... Right. That is funny to have like... It should be a black-led event.

99% white people are like, we are here in solidarity. Which I also do think is cool. Like if you're a neighborhood, you're all white, but you still want to show that you support Black Lives Matter. Like, I think that's cool. Yeah. You know, not everyone thinks about like how we're all contributing towards white supremacy. I mean, we all are.

But no, we're not thinking about it. So I get it. Actively, yeah. Like, I get, like, why certain people would call them hypocrites. And then I also get them wanting to do it. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't. Because you're, like, your silence is... Violence.

...is violence. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't, because you're like, your silence is... Violence. Is violence, but it's also your silence is saying that you are, you think it's okay. Like, you need to make a stand. And then if you do make a stand, it's like, look at this corny asshole right here. It's not only that you're corny, but it's like, well, you guys chose to live in a community probably because it was, like, equals white which is like the problem like you get a choice these people who like you want equal treatment for they don't get a choice right right right you know so all that kind of stuff of course yeah i meant like just saying something in general like the event you know yeah but so he asked me and i'm like so i asked him i was like how many black people are involved and he's like well that's the problem and i was like fuck man and i

know black people but i don't know any black people that live in hamden yeah you know can you think of a black person you know that lives here that i know that i'm friends with friends with even friendly i thought of one i thought of gerard yeah who works at golden west that's always bad too like i thought of the one yeah i thought of the one so i messaged him and uh and then i dude i just went on the the hamden neighbors facebook group post because there was a a post about from a black woman who was saying how she doesn't feel welcomed here yeah and then other black women and people chimed in and they're like i live here we i'm sorry you're leaving and wish we hung out so i just messaged them and i was like hey jim is doing this thing and it would be great to have like black people

involved right so several were like yeah great only one showed up so then we go do the zoom meeting and uh it's like awkward because you know like do you know what this was so we're supposed to do a zoom meeting and to plan this solidarity event but this is also the same week where like we're all trying to support black establishments so um i ordered food from a local place, which the food was amazing, from Chef Bobby D's. Oh, yeah. Sure. Great spot. You and I don't have a story about that place.

Yeah. So I go to pick up my food, and I'm like, cool, I'll have two hours, then I can eat with Karen and then do the Zoom meeting. So then I go pick up the food. I run into you and my friend, Ari, and it's just so funny. We're the only not-black people there. It's so obvious why we're there. Yeah. I have been meaning to try that place, though.

Okay. I have. I said, Josh, you privileged son of a bitch you gotta yeah it was just like well because it's at an intersection in hamden that yeah that i literally every time i see it i'm like oh yeah i gotta try that yeah and then i drive by and it's out of sight out of mind so i went there because my buddy had told me they have the best wings and then our buddy evan said they have great ribs yeah yeah so i got ribs karen got shrimp and grits but then like the i guess because a lot of people were supporting them like they were so lambed

and then so like you waited so i read it to you and you're like in a real bad mood i was it wasn't great yeah it wasn't great well because i ordered online and online it was like your order will be ready at 545. And I was like, okay, cool. So I show up at like 550, I think, or something or whatever. Or maybe it was like 445, whatever it was. Like right after the time when it's supposed to be ready, I go in and none of the staff is wearing a mask. Nope. Neither, by the way. And then the person working at the counter, she had her mask just like around her chin, which is always a fun look.

And one of the guys who came out the back, just no mask. Oh, and everybody in the kitchen, no mask either. Absolutely. And so it's like, hey, I'm here to pick up for Karen. And she was like, oh, hmm. And like she looked at like where like the tickets were and she's like oh i don't know do you order online i was like yep and then she goes and looks at there are two different computers i guess one or like uh like ipad things like one for

orders that were coming in and then one to like put orders in there and so the online order one she had not put it into that system, I guess. And she was like, oh, I haven't even put that in yet. And I was like, okay. And then I was like, well, like, what do you think? Like, what's the estimate? Like, when do you think it'll be ready? And I wasn't trying to be shitty.

I'm just like, where's my food? But it was like, should I go home? What are we doing? And she was like, I'll tell them you need it need it asap like in a way of just like hey chill out but then you're in this weird predicament because like just given the context of the country you're a white guy in a black space right you can't complain you just have a baby's t-shirt on yeah you just have to be like all right yeah but also like you're saying too it was clear they were busy and i'm like all good and like regardless of like whatever it is in the country like i still wouldn't be like excuse me

yeah you know just like all right like and it's right down the street so i'm like should i wait 10 minutes or like what or should i go home and then yeah my food you ordered after me yes show up and then we're all in there like ah what the fuck yeah and i left before you you got your food and left before me and i was hated and ari our buddy ari just ordered sides she just ordered like yeah they're probably already already prepared just have to put them in the container and she waited an hour yeah, everybody, there was one dude in particular in there that was just like, what the fuck? One guy, yeah, he's just like, I was like, this guy has zero self-regulation. And it was so funny.

Because he's just, he's like, man, what the fuck is it? Why only got one person up here? But he's, like, talking to himself. He's just so mad he can't keep it in. Yeah. But also, I'm like, that's exactly how I feel. Yeah. He's like, this is bullshit. was like right yeah and then so i'm sorry i would say i get the people are slammed

but it was like it was just it was bad yeah so then time is ticking and i'm like fuck i'm not gonna be able to eat this food i also and zoom meeting i checked in like four times it was like just for karen just just checking in like every 15 minutes and then she was like it's not ready yet i was like okay and then when she was then when the food was ready she's like anybody here for karen i'm like you know i'm here you know i felt bad man they were you could tell they were swamped yeah the food though it was right it was really good. I love my ribs. Yeah. Ribs are, I think that's

you got to go for that next time. Yeah. No, Karen got ribs and then I got the Rasta Pasta. Which is very good with like a jerk chicken and a bunch of like peppers over some pasta and a cream of sauce. Time is ticking. Yeah. I go to the we had the Zoom meeting to plan this

solidarity event. I show up late so we're all like introducing ourselves this is great bro i don't even care if this guy hears this okay so uh because fuck him so uh so we're sitting in the zoom meeting yeah and everyone's introducing themselves and this one guy i'm like this motherfucker looks so familiar i'm like why does this guy look so familiar his name is eli and he uh and i saw like his name on the screen yeah and i was like eli and then i was like holy shit like it sunk in like uh two years ago i uh it was my like third time opening up for hari kondabolu at the creative alliance and after the show um i guess this guy eli was offended i don't know who he was but he sent me this like really shitty message

he's like yo he's like you may just because you're from here and you do sometimes good work doesn't give you the authority to trash this city. It's not your playground. Yeah, I remember this. He's like, if you want to be a comedian, you should write better jokes and focus more on yourself and not make fun of others. There's something crazy. Thanks, Eli.

Yeah, and the best part was like oh because like he didn't like the jokes where i made fun of like the students i work with yeah and it's very playful and then uh and he's like yeah i even took it that the suburban crowd didn't like those jokes either i'm like what the fuck does that even mean and by the way i killed that night of course only one joke didn't go over i was a teacher fucking joke but you know they're very uptight also that's fine yeah and and it's so funny to be like hey those jokes didn't go well it's like i would be the first to know yes and that's the thing dude it killed like those jokes they got one of the jokes he's talking about got

an applause break right so fuck him he like, could have been bigger though. So he sent me the message. And the best part was I remember the day after I went out to dinner with my co-workers who were all black women and I showed them the, and they all just were clowning that guy so hard. So I looked him up and he's from Pittsburgh. He's not even from here. I'm fucking from here and I'm not white.

Yeah. And you work in the city. And I work here. I live here so um so he's on this call and i'm like oh this is so funny like it's just like i was like oh this guy and then like there's something about like woke people where they have this affect where it's like they're almost trying to sound non-threatening they're like oh yeah um hey yeah like um oh and it's so condescending yeah i moved here and you know the one problem i have with this neighborhood is like even though i bought a home here like is that like his like

historically and currently it's just a very white neighborhood and that bothers me and i'm like does it yeah because you still bought a fucking home yeah right it bothers you're just lying yeah to look good it bothered me so much i put down 70 i put $10,000 down and i said oh i don't know if i like yeah it bothered me so much i spent the most money i've ever spent in my life to live in this neighborhood i made a lifetime commitment and it just doesn't sit with me i don't. And it's just like that kind of shit is just gross. It's just like I made a joke, dude, but you like are disgusting. Yeah, and what you're doing is way more unifying than what he'll ever do. Exactly.

Yeah. Disgusting. Especially jokes where people are like, I don't know. It's a little, it's not tasteful it's like yeah nobody you're most bonds aren't like i think this is great i also think this is great it's like if you're joking and you can be real and be vulnerable at the same time you're gonna make way more headway than just being like hey so i don't know and that's the best part it's like my comedy isn't even that insane yeah Yeah, or like offensive, quote unquote.

I'm making fun of myself most of the time. Yeah, of course. And I don't trash the kids that I work with. Of course, yeah. So I guess he saw the show and then this is what's crazy. We did a meet and greet afterwards, right? So I'm shaking hands. I'm talking to people who came to the show.

And he could have just walked up to me and been like, hey, was up with those jokes you said right and but he didn't he walked by me then he had to go and fucking facebook search me it makes more sense that he would do that yeah yeah and then write a message and hope that i read it well he's also like jazzed on it too though yeah it's like oh i can't wait to like you're so mad it's like dude think about this i was on stage for 10 15 minutes then you saw another comic do 35 minutes and then the guy you came to see did an hour right yeah if two or three jokes yeah you let that ruin your whole fucking night well i don't even know if it ruins it or like that's what you're thinking about that you would write yeah well but that's where you get social

clout from which makes it even well he only he no one knows he did it i'm sure he told people like who knows but still i mean that's where you get maybe not even social clout but like your sense of self like i always think about like it's it's, that's their team, you know, where it's, like, it might as well be, like, I fucking love the Patriots. So, like, being woke is my team. So, like, I'm going to tell you that the fucking Eagles suck. Okay? Fuck the field. You know, like, basically, that's what he's doing.

So, he probably did the same thing. I bet he was at dinner. He's like, look at the message I wrote this guy. white guy telling a brown person what he can and cannot do in a place where he's from and you're not like do you not see the fucking irony yeah no he doesn't he's like yeah woke people yeah so then so we're planning this process and i amelia i'm like oh i'm not like like they were all very nice but like i'm um i don't know i'm not like sensitive and like i don't oh you're sensitive feel well i don't have like like i feel but i don't know how to express this but just the way they talked i was just like is this real is this like but people are like that but i'm just so

crazy that i can't even yeah i would say you're a pretty empathetic guy but again the way that they do it is like like we're saying it's a presentation. It goes through a filter of like, what the fuck is this? Right. Yeah. So most of them were cool. There was just like that handful. I'm like, was it hard not to react to that guy and be like, oh, what's up, Eli? I know.

I want to do so bad. But I did mention I was like, I'm a comedian. Just message him privately. Yeah. Sup. So then, you know, so we plan it and we're all over the place and i'm just like fuck like there's two black people here in this chat yeah and so the way jim opened he's like okay so we all introduce ourselves and why we live here and

whatever and then he's like so um do we have any thoughts and he specifically goes he said the first like jessica amber umar like i was like oh my god you're not even trying to hide it people of color thoughts so funny and then uh anyway penny for your thoughts so we left that zoo meeting without a plan and i uh i kind of i lied i was like uh guy i gotta finish eating dinner with my girlfriend. And I was just like, I can't be on here anymore. Yeah. So but the next day I went to go help. And they came up with this like loose plan of like Jim's going to say some words, which already bad because you're a white guy. It's just weird.

Yeah. But it's nice. Yeah. Again, I mean, his heart's in the right place. And it sounds like he's trying heart's in the right place. His heart's in the right place. He's trying to do the right thing. So then, you know, we have this plan where, like, people print out all this information of where to donate, how they can help. And this one woman, she has, like, this, she gives out, like, free food down here.

She's a black woman. She's lived here for a long time. And she's been helping feed, like, the needy and homeless for a while. Yeah. She spoke. She was there. That was cool. She brought food, and Golden West donated water.

So it was nice. It was nice. Yeah. Then it came time, like, okay, so who's going to be on the microphone doing, like, we had a portion where Jim talks. Then we say the names of, like, black people who have been murdered by the police. And it was a long list. And it's just crazy to see a list that big. Terrible.

Another guy said some stuff. And then another guy was going to lead the moment of silence. So Jim again was like, so who wants to do this? And he was hoping black people would like you know say me but none did because also public speaking is like the biggest fear and no one really knows what this is gonna be yeah and then it's weird too where it's like okay then we're propping up our black people well yeah and then you're taking on yeah they might feel uncomfortable being like well i don't speak for all of yeah like what are we doing here so bizarre and then so so it was all white people

who volunteer which is fine it's just a bad optics yeah and then hearts in the right place hearts in the right place skins in the wrong place i'm like whoo got out of that and then like like jim comes and like hunts me down he's like umar you got to do the moment of silence i was like no he's like he's like you are a voice in this community i was like no i'm not and i'm like if people recognize me which maybe four will they're like oh yeah isn't that a guy who says shitty things on stage they're not gonna be like oh yeah look at that kind caring person didn't he say the service at common ground suck yeah yeah and uh wasn't he trashing the local kid i'm not doing it and and i understood he and i was like fine fuck it i'll do it because like i was like i don't want it to be all even though i'm not black but yeah it might be better than another white kid doing it. Right. Better than Eli. Yeah.

So it started out fine. I thought Jim talked a little too long, mentioned Jesus a little too much. And you could tell he was in the zone. Oh, really? He was feeling it. It was kind of like, what's happening here? Is this fun? Yeah.

Yeah. We went to a kind of a protest thing that had a religious bent to it. And you're like, okay. Yeah. Okay. And then he brought these two women to read the names. And, dude, I mean, I get it. I don't know.

I feel like this moment is supposed to be like you're about to read the names of people who have been murdered. And so, dude, this woman comes in hot she goes she's like what's up hampton almost like i feel like i don't know if i remember but i feel like she has to growl to make noise i don't know how we do it where my lady's at yeah all right now just the left side. Yeah. Yeah. So. She has a t-shirt, can't she? Yeah. So, I'm just like, whoa, that is mismatch of energy.

Yeah. Just, what are you doing? Read the fucking room. Well, again, it's public speaking. I know. This is like her nerves taking over. Yeah. She's getting pumped.

That would be so funny if it was that transparent.'s like i am nervous how we do it so then she was kind of like on the mic like a person like maybe gets a little too drunk at a wedding and like the best man or best woman speech goes on too long and they it just gets awkward you know yeah so like at one point like uh i guess like the mic wasn't loud enough people and like we're yelling like louder and she's like it's like all right i can get real loud it's just like what are you doing so many really read these tragic names yeah louder and then so they start reading the names and they and then when they got to freddie, I also thought it was kind of funny. She goes, and our very own. Dude.

Dude. Dude. It was so good, dude. It was. I was just like, what? Is he about to come out and like fucking fight Stone Cold Steve Austin? Yeah, you hear the glass smash. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Oh, no, dude. Baltimore's own? Yeah, Baltimore's and our very own. What? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

We also have murderers here. Yeah, people have been brutally murdered here by the police. That's what's up. Yeah. All right. Who wants a t-shirt? So then the last name goes. Okay, so I thought this was just people in Baltimore.

This is like nationwide names? Dude, this list is a full page with four columns. My God. Long. Okay, yeah. I thought it was just Baltimore. They pronounced some of them wrong. And then after they finished reading the names, people are like, you forgot Tamir.

Or you forgot Tamir Rice. Trayvon Martin wasn't on there. Then other people were yelling out uh like emmett till and it just got weird and she just kind of stood there she's like okay you say him i'll you tell me what to say and we'll call them out together and it's just like very weird because now the crowd's in control and also what are we doing yeah what are we doing at this point like this doesn't serve as, like, a healing, say their names. This is just, like.

An outwoking. It's chaos. Yeah. And so Jim runs up, and he's like, all right, I'll say their names. And he's yelling. Then, like, somebody. I got a name for you. You're next.

Come to the stage. Oh, my God. Then, like, he starts talking too much. And I'm like, what are you doing, man? What are you doing? And people are, like, you can kind of feel it like people like what the fuck did we come to yeah i'm standing in the crowd and i'm like oh i gotta do my moment of silence this shit's gonna suck and so uh jim's like talking people start like heckling him people want to come out into

the streets but we don't want to block the buses and we don't want to fuck up business for the local businesses that are open right and people like we should be we should be using our bodies we should be in the streets and we're like uh okay but if you block the bus it's gonna be black people because most of the people who use this bus here are probably elderly black people so what are you accomplishing so then um dude this all sounds so misguided just yeah then jim brings up another i think it was good it's just hard because i was so in like i was involved and it's like when i do stuff like i want it to be perfect well yeah and it's also weird to be like i want this event to go well and so because and that's the only advice i gave i was like guys optics are the thing that

like your message doesn't matter as much as what it's gonna look like because it can't be white people just talking yeah so then next guy who comes up is a white guy who's here to share some literally he just has to say like we're handing out these pieces of paper this is where you can like donate money and this is where you can volunteer in baltimore right that's it this motherfucker very nice guy by the way also super great guy does great work but you know i'm playing it out for comedic effect so don't get mad at me if people hear this who know this guy. But, yeah, what are you going to do?

Fuck. It's so hard to tell stories on podcasts. Sorry, we're pretty far in it. All right, so this guy goes up and he's like, you know, when I first moved here from Nebraska or wherever. He's like, I moved to a quaint part of town where a bunch of ruffians in timonium. They got a chuckle. Boo, that's the county. Boo.

Whatever his line was, it got a little bit of a laugh. And then he's like, and I started noticing. I would drive on the beltway, and I'm just going over this city i'm like dude no one cares about your story yeah you know what i mean like yeah those are the kind of things like why don't people think this through like why don't you realize this like yeah i mean well it's it's what we're talking about it's the public speaking thing and it's also the ego thing too ego like people are just like i'm helping so it's okay i'm being a part of this moment and so then he's like so then i moved to the city i joined a black church it's just like what the fuck i saw black panther three times yeah vod

what is happening it's like it's insane he's literally doing like i have black friends right and i see once a week i pull up my iphone siri show my yeah show my contacts like then you can just sense people are like what the fuck is happening then jim brings me up i do the moment of silence dude so we had a doctor who was a black woman she She's a doctor, and so she was a part of the planning. She was super cool. I met this person, and yeah, it was great. But she was saying, like, you know, because of social distancing, I don't think we should lay down, and I don't think we should kneel either.

So why don't we just, like, put our hands behind our heads? So we put our hands behind our heads for eight minutes and 46 seconds, which is how long. With like your hands on the back of your head. Yeah, on the back of your head. Like you're being arrested or whatever. And so I had to go up. I say like two sentences.

I made Jim write them down for me. I was like, I'm going to read them. So you write it. I was like, if you write it, I'll just read it. But I'm not coming up with a thing on my own. And it was just very simple, like doing a moment of silence. You're like, it's nice to be in Hamden. I did a show.

I did a. Yeah, so I'm a school psychologist. I did a rally in Remington the other day. And boom. And so, yeah. So I'm like, give it up for the troops. I'm like, wait, never mind. Wrong crowd.

We got to build that. Hold on. I got to look at my notes. So, I do it. Eight minutes and 46 seconds is so long. And I have real bad shoulders. Okay. Speaking of optics.

Dude, I'm just saying, like, just what was going on in my head while it was happening. Oh, by the way, I had to go up on the steps. So, like, everyone's staring at me. And I'm the only person up there with my hands above my head. And everyone's just looking at me doing the same thing. For almost nine minutes, yeah. Horrible. It's just like, what is this?

Not great. Not great. What is happening? And happening and then so i'm doing it three minutes in i'm like holy shit my shoulders hurt so i can't i have shoulder injuries like legit i can't like keep my hands up yeah so i'm just like dying and okay you can't use that word not dying sorry i'm it hurts a lot I'm in pain that I'll survive. You know what? Dude, I'm just saying, like, it hurt a lot. Of course, yeah.

You do. You've mentioned that a bunch of times. Like, yeah, your shoulders are messed up. Oh, God. Words are so tough right now. So, I am in a lot of pain and i'm like i don't know if i can keep my hands up here like i don't know if it's physically possible yeah but especially when it's silent like that in every second you feel it yeah but there's like 300 people

you know there may be more a picture there's a picture of this too yeah so then i do it and like thank god it's over i get off stage in the oh yeah there's three photographers taking i'm like don't take my fucking picture yep so then i get off and i'm just like god this is weird but you know like like i think most people that i talked to were like, it was good. It did get weird, but it was good. Yeah. So I get off the stage or whatever, and a guy comes to me. He's like, hey, I'm a reporter with The Sun. He's like, so are you one of the organizers?

I was like, yeah, I guess so. And he's like, what's your name? I was like, oh, Umar Khan. And then as soon as he left, I was like, wow. I just said, I don't want to give you my name. And I was a volunteer. Like immediately after he left, I was just like yeah why did i do this rahil khan yeah oh that would have been great just call i was just said i'm evan donahue yeah just the whitest guy damn that would have been a great joke i'm eric glazer and uh yeah so then I get off. So then I'm just standing in the crowd.

I find our buddy Mike Quinlan, which was so fun to see. So then Jim goes back up. And dude, this is perfect. Just end it. Yeah, yeah. End it. Right. We've done a moment of silence.

This motherfucker keeps talking. And which Jim's great guy. This is mostly comedic effect. But this motherfucker keeps talking. And then people start yelling. They're like, stop talking. We want to hear from black people. And then one person was like, oh, I forgot the best part.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah, I'm turning this into a bit, I think. Oh, no. Can I pee in your backyard into a bit, I think. Oh, no. Can I pee in your backyard, by the way? Yeah. Okay.

You can pee in my house. I don't care. Well, no, I want to just keep listening. Do you mind if I just pee right now? Yeah, go ahead. All right. Oh, shit, there's dead air. No, well, it's all right.

Anyway, so when I go to set up, let me back up. I go to set up for this... I'm listening. ...this solidarity. Oh, don't pee on the... Can I pee in the grass? I would pee over here. Oh, okay.

All right. Yeah. It's so bad, too. All right. So when I did the solidarity, they were like, can I piss in your... When I did the solidarity event... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine.

I've done it. When I went to go set up up we went to set up it started at like two we were setting up at 12 like right after we finished setting up this uh kid came up to us and uh i don't want i'm not doing his voice uh i but i'm only pointing out that he's a gay white kid and pointing out that he's gay because it matters a little bit later in the story. Okay. So he's gay and he has a very stereotypical affect. Affect.

Yeah. And he is very upset. And he's like, when's the open mic portion? And I'm like, what? Open mic? My guy's asking for a sign up sheet? Come on. Bro, what? And I'm just thinking he's talking to his gym and I'm like open mic my guy's asking for a sign-up sheet come on bro what and i'm just thinking he's talking to his gym and i'm there yeah and he's like because i wrote down some things that i think need to be said and i we need to dismantle the white supremacy in this

neighborhood and i'm just like right you're a white kid, bro. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. If you're so woke, how do you not see this as crazy? Yeah. How do you not have, like, humility about it either? Or, like, when you're like, yeah, it's so fucked up. Maybe I'll just take a step back. Just a white, you're a white man.

Which, nothing wrong with, but maybe not. Right. You're the thing you're complaining about even be the first one to speak if there was an open mic portion also it's like just shows the like the same thing that he's like so mad about he's like white people we have to dismantle the system the system is fucked up where do i get in the system yeah you know like he's like uh i need to be heard my voice should be a part of this it's crazy so so then so then fast forward back to now yes moment of silent happened jim is talking too much people start yelling and people like we need to be in the street and then jim caves he's like yeah uh come into the street and this is all post the moment of silence. Yes. Yeah. And Jim's like, yeah, come in the street. And then he keeps talking and people are like yelling stuff.

And he's like repeating it back. And they're like, people were upset. I guess there was a group of people that were upset that it wasn't political enough. And we weren't saying like abolish the police and stuff. So one girl were like, we should abolish the police. And Jim's like, yeah, abolish the police and stuff so one girl were like we should abolish the police and jim's like yeah abolish the police like he said i'm just like are we in a fucking sketch show right now right what is it is my life like uh a nathan for you episode right yeah yeah like yeah what the fuck he's down for whatever like we should burn down this restaurant he's like okay all right

crawling in my skin bro of course and i'm just watching for the audience and me and mike quillen are just like what the fuck is this it's crazy yeah and so so then she's someone yells like we should be using our bodies and disrupt everything and blah blah blah and it's like, all right, chill out. You live in a white neighborhood for a reason. Yeah. We're not very far from a ice cream shop. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Literally. Yeah. There's gluten-free tea down the street and an ice cream shop across the street. And we need our bodies to go get some sweet treats. Yeah. And so, so then like they, Jim's like, okay, yeah. If you're a black person, you want to come speak, speak. And that was the coolest part.

That's smart. Because a lot of people went up and they said really cool things. Yeah. And it was awesome. It was so cool to see. And then that one dude was like, oh, sorry. When Jim invited someone to speak, the white kid is the first one. He starts yelling.

Dude, he starts. He's like pacing. He's like pacing in the crowd and just yelling like, we need to dismantle white supremacy. Some people are like clapping and he's just going on and on. He gets momentum. He walks up to the stage, grabs a mic and starts yelling like when i was in this neighborhood i heard someone saying i was like look are are you racist and i was trying to have a conversation we need to be having conversations and calling out racism and then

someone's like you're not black someone said that yeah something like that and so like he got cut off early for black people to actually speak and that was the best that and so like he got cut off early for black people to actually speak and that was the best part when they like when so how did he dismount from that though he's like you know what you're right kind of like come on man there's black people waiting to speak that's another thing you're a woke you're so woke yeah but you're literally making like you're literally yeah making black people stand in a line and wait for you to speak but that's the thing they're not woke it's just your ego that's what i'm saying yeah it's sports where it's like no no no i'm that's my team and i've repped it it's like you're not even so funny dude i was like

holy shit like this kid should get murdered like fucking murdered dude and someone has to play a video back of what he just like and like it's like you know what we're gonna murder your family to save them from the embarrassment you in well yeah they're gonna kill themselves for sure either way they're gonna die it was it just blows like dude he if you would have saw him just pacing through this crowd the lack of self-awareness people to look at him i'm like you're making this about yourself like every white person who went up there yeah they made it about themselves where it's like well i do this and i tell this story and then and i'm here you know who else got up there fucking eli got up there and he wasn't even scheduled to he's like you know normally i

don't i don't like speaking but i was i thought i had to because i'm the counselor it's like you didn't have to speak no one gave a shit that you spoke yeah people were like man i wish eli said a couple words so you know eli bought a house here and he didn't even want to buy a house here i you know those are just like i just point out the like the weird awful parts i would say overall like from the people because i did talk to people like yeah we thought it was nice it got weird but it was nice and it was kind of like yeah it was kind of like self-correction in real time it's like seeing the stumble of like hey look you guys are doing it wrong this is how it should be your heart is in the right place and then like that portion where black people actually got on the mic like dude this the last kid to get up fucking knocked it out of the

park and he like he i think he was like in his early 20s he's like i live in this neighborhood i grew up around here my whole life and it's like you know it's nice you can be out here with your little signs and you can change your little chance but the end of the day like when you guys stop caring because this happens every decade when you stop caring yeah you get to go back to your normal lives i don't have that like i don't have like like he's like i've never trusted the police like my whole life yeah i've been afraid of them and i've been harassed by them and it's just like and he's like yeah so what are you gonna do it's like and he's like you're not gonna do anything like if if this is it this is nothing and it was just like it was really powerful and he

said some other stuff i can't remember but no i mean he's he's totally right where it's like you're doing it now but are you gonna keep doing it yeah and it's just like yeah it was crazy and so so sad man then jim goes back up he keeps going you could have ended it right there and then so i leave i couldn't stomach i was just like i love i love jim i think he does great things for this community but it was just like some of it was a miss most of it was great some of it was a miss yeah and uh and so uh the best part to tie it all together was uh jim was like hey guys like um just you know take some time to process we should get back together and discuss like you know what like what we did well what we didn't do and i know there were some hiccups some

people you know i heard some of their legitimate complaints and then eli comments he goes jim i wouldn't worry too much about what like good doer white people, if just two good doer white people got mad, I wouldn't really worry about it too much. And I'm like, who are you? That's you, motherfucker. You sent me a message complaining. You're one of these white people that complain. I was just like, wow, this is full circle.

Yeah, yeah. Just no self-awareness still. Hilarious. That's great. I love that he's like, don't you hate a do-gooder white guy? He's just like, ah. I'm one of the God. I wish I, yeah, I'm one of the good ones. It was so funny.

I won't be able to find it. It's too deep. Um, Jesus, man. Well, yeah. Like we've been saying, it's also, it's good that at least something was done. But yeah, the cringe aspect of it is the awkward parts. But yeah, at least they were trying to do something good.

And like you're saying, it's self-correction in real time. But for the people that are like, yeah, no, I should be speaking. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. I know. It was bad. It was funny. It was like, oh, no, no, no. I know. It was bad. It was funny. It was like, oh, yeah, he was like, you did an awesome job, Jim, and I wouldn't really take criticism from a random white.

Oh, and I would really take criticism from random white people with a grain of salt. I wanted to just send a screenshot of Eli sending me a criticism of my comedy. Don't be one of these guys. Yeah. So funny. I would take criticism for a grain of salt. I wanted to message him and be like, what are you doing? But anyway, that was the story.

So somehow I got gotta turn that whole thing into a bit i mean yeah no it's amazing story it's because it's you can see all of it too like it's we are in the prototypical like hipster neighborhood where it's like wait no i those are the bad guys i'm the good guy and it's like no you're kind of and it's just like we gotta do something it's like you know what just shut the fuck up and drink your 12 cocktails yeah and thank god that you are privileged yeah i mean yeah that's kind of what we're all doing where that is what we're all gonna do yeah and uh yeah i'm donating money too and it's yeah and i i want to say stuff and yeah i've been like sharing stuff but then also too when you do that you're like

i'm also kind of the problem it That's why I stopped, dude. It's like the social media stuff. It's like. Yeah. It's weird. You shouldn't have to feel like, well, if I don't post a black square. Right. Then I'm.

Am I a racist? I'm a part of this. By some people's accounts. And then you see people attacking people for not speaking up. And it's like. Yeah. In some ways, I get it. If you're like a business i do

think that makes sense like i don't know if i'd want to give money to a business that doesn't support black lives right you know they can also just write whatever and then do whatever too like i'm sure whole foods put out a thing like black lives matter and we use federal prison labor yeah so much of this is performing and i was like i don't want to see this i don't want to be a part of it but he got an email from from the CEO of Kohl's. And the CEO is like, it's been long enough. I had to say something. It's like, okay, Kohl's, thanks.

Yeah. Yeah, and that's where it's like, ah, you get in that gray zone of like, you should be doing something. I know. But then what are you doing it for? Crazy. What's the goal there? What are you going to do?

All right, everybody. Yeah, let's wrap it up. I mean, that is... How are your shoulders? Tired. Put this whole community on your back. It was work, buddy. God, so uncomfortable. And I know, too, the amount of stress that you were feeling, too,

of just how uncomfortable it is. Yeah, then three hours later, people are sending me the links of the Baltimore Sun thing yeah it's just a picture of me with my hands behind my head standing in a podium hundreds of people yeah you're just like damn this is this is bad hey that was your first set in a long time first set yeah i was supposed to perform this weekend but it got pushed it's uh because it's gonna rain oh yeah yeah you're doing that backyard show now i got pushed and i'm at the beach next weekend so oh bummer bummer what are you gonna do who cares yeah i got hit up to do uh um uh drive-in movie theater uh oh because what's his name's doing that to do stefan subotic uh nooglier? It was through

the improv, but I can't do it. Somebody reached out to the improv to get comics. Even Allison was like, I don't know how this is going to work. I heard they're bad. Joe List did one. You're not going to be able to hear people laughing. She was like, if you

want to do it. Joe List did one. I'll send you the tweet tweet he has a video of him uh doing a punchline and then everyone just starts honking yeah yeah chapelle mentions that too in his thing where he's like well he's like this is the first show well it's not the first show they did a drive-in movie theaters and people honk and what the fuck is that yeah so funny and then because so many people were honking a lot, the cops were called. And then they were like, you can't do that here. And then so they have to blink their lights. So weird.

Brutal. And he said every comic was to do 15. And he's like at 850. And he's just like, am I done yet? And he's just like, yeah. He's like, all right, well, I'm done. The blinking lights. Yeah.

Like this guy's a headliner who does hours at a time. And he's just like, ah, this is too much. Yeah, I mean, if you look at that in a vacuum, like if it was drugs, you're like, this person has an addiction. What are they doing? Yeah. Like they need to perform so bad that they're in front of all these cars that are honking in the lights. Oh, boy. Yeah, you haven't done any Zoom stuff, right?

No, I refuse to. I was just asked again. I was like, I don't want to Zoom stuff, right? No, I refuse to. I was just asked again. I was like, I don't want to. It wasn't that bad. I got to say. Yeah, I just don't want to. Yeah, it's different for sure. But it wasn't that bad.

Wasn't that bad. Yeah, we did Speechless last night. That was a lot of fun. Oh, all right. But Speechless, you're actually doing like a PowerPoint. So it's like kind of geared for that. Yeah. But yeah, this was good. So thank you everybody for listening i think we're gonna wrap up yeah we got we got over an hour and a half in the bag here whoa that's a long pod that's a good

pod though people people listen all right people listen and uh yeah i mean obviously just yeah follow our social media and uh matt josh kaderna and uh no shows but you know might be some backyard stuff here what are you gonna do what are you gonna do it's a it's a pandemic yeah um uh sorry just made me think of trump and him being like look we've cured a lot of stuff we cured aids we'll probably get a cure for covid me and lafayette were riffing on it in lafayette's like everybody's making fun of him but what if he's just revealed some shit he shouldn't have said like he there there is a cure for aids yeah he's like uh so we're just like he's like uh we've you know we've cured a lot of stuff like alien herpes gone you can fuck aliens wait a minute uh never

mind uh all right everybody Thank you for listening. Yeah, we'll be back to our regular schedule and talk to you guys soon. David Koechner, take us out. We'll see you next time.