The Digression Sessions - Ep. 333 - Pak Sun

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

Hola Digheads, on this week's episode, Josh and Umar are back together but podding from a distance via Zoom for adult conversations about Pac Sun and Warped Tour. Josh - @JoshKuderna on Twitter and @JoshKuderna on Instagram Watch Umar's special - HERE Thanks for listening, all! Do the pod a favor and rate and review the pod on Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Laughable, Stitcher, & Spotify plz!

all right hey hello hello we are back to being good boys we are oh yeah we are good boys zooming from our respective homes in baltimore maryland we have plants in our background uh just to ensure full yuppiness look at us taking care of plants what's up we uh we yeah we started doing this we all right so we went from zoom in march or april because i don't think i i don't know that i didn't know dude for like the first maybe month and a half i didn't know that i had podcast equipment yeah that's true remember that that's that's true and then also when everything happened it's like who cares about i have everything i have a Zoom recorder. I have two microphones. I have a splitter. I mean, I have like a 32 gig. I had everything ready to go.

You had a producer. That guy, Jamie. That guy, Jamie from Joe Rogan lives with you. He's like, oh, hey, hey, Omar. Yeah, dude. Crazy. And then I remember I was like, oh, yeah, Karen, my girlfriend. Yeah. Her and her roommate were going to do a podcast, and they never did,

but they bought all this shit. And so I'm using – though her roommate does want her microphone back, and I was pretty bummed about that. Wow. Huh. Because she bought – and this is – because this is so Karen. Like, she doesn't care about, like like she doesn't get into the fine details of like most things especially something like a podcast right so she just bought like a shitty

$20 mic from amazon and her roommate bought like a shore microphone like an sm58 like standard good guy sm48s is this a piece of shit, Mike? Yeah, what do you think the S stands for, my guy? Oh my god. Anyway, it's still a decent mic. Yeah, it's fine. Does it have an on-off switch? Yes.

That's how you know it's bad. Oh, for real? Good mics don't have it? Yeah, for some reason, yeah. Better mics don't have an on-off switch. But, what it is it's probably fine it's yeah it doesn't have an on off switch but whatever who cares damn dude yeah it is uh it is wild it's uh covet 19 uh just turned one year old did you know that yeah yeah no i didn't, what? That's why it's called COVID-19. They found it in 2019.

I know, but at this time in 2019, it started popping up. I thought it popped up in January. No, if it was January, then it'd be COVID-20, right? Sorry. December. Right. Oh, yes. This makes sense yeah isn't it wild covid 19 year old that's crazy dude and uh those yeah dude those diseases they grow up so fast don't they i know man and they don't stick around long but they do a lot of damage oh boy do they

uh well yeah and then so we had to start doing the zoom podcast and then it was nice out so we do the outdoor podcast and then it was getting like a little chilly stuff felt like it was getting better so we did indoor windows open yeah and now we're back to zoom we're we're full circle and uh listen trump when he gets his second uh term it's gonna be just fine he's gonna get those vaccines out oh i mean i mean uh yeah it doesn't even feel like biden what the fuck is that it doesn't even feel like biden won you know what i mean doesn't it not feel like don't you think we should be happier i don't really feel like you won i mean i i there is a sense of like relief i think i'd feel way worse if he like officially lost but yeah i don't think the actual um acknowledgement or like the feeling

of like okay uh trump is not president anymore until January, right? Like, until Biden is in there. I'm like, yeah, he won, right? Oh, man. This is going to be crazy. Like, just even like, are they going to have like an inauguration? Do you think they're going to even have one? Yeah, definitely.

But how? They got to follow these. Yeah these yeah i mean they'll still do something they'll probably just say the public can't come i don't know i'm right i'm sure they'll do something um uh yeah they'll do it like uh comedians are doing it these like driving things a bunch of cars uh in the capital honking their horns yeah especially because like at an inauguration it's almost like a um state of the union where people are clapping after every fucking sentence that would just be so frustrating yeah where he's like i'm not just the president of the blue states but of all states like yeah that would be a bummer uh uh yeah but yeah so we're we're full

circle now so we're we're zooming again baby and shows are being i'm seeing everyone having to uh post about how their shows are canceled i mean yeah dude i watched uh i watched uh the news one night and this they talked to two dot. One night? Look at you. Look at you. Wow. 2020 is a wild year. Yeah. And they interviewed this doctor who's going to be, I think he's going to be on Biden's

coronavirus task force. Anyway, he was just like, yeah, we're entering a corona hell. I was like, fuck. That's literally what he said. He called it COVID. He's like, yeah, we're about to enter a winter of COVID hell. I was like, fuck. Just like that was the first thing he said during his interview.

He's like, oh, yeah, hey, what's up? I'm like, damn, Mr. Positivity. Right. I was going to say, but he is like a goth doctor. Like he had like black lipstick welcome to kobe he stung his tongue out afterwards yeah told his mom to shut up i'm doing an interview leave me alone god yeah he's just a fat guy he like yeah he's just uh that's the thing dude like yeah you can't be fat and then have like a marilyn manson wow a lot of people do but

it's a weird like uh it's a weird look like that marilyn manson's fat now like i'm like dude you can't be like the the king of goth and be fat oh he's pretty fat yeah he's like a yeah i think he's like a bad alcoholic, too. Yeah. I saw when I was in like a YouTube rabbit hole, I saw it was Marilyn Manson played Royal Farms Arena, I guess in like 2019. Yeah, he did. I know people who went. Oh, nice.

Hell yeah. So stupid. That guy that's on Biden's task force. Yeah, he was there. But yeah, so Marilyn Manson, that guy that's on uh biden's task force yeah he was there um uh but yeah so uh marilyn manson i think he fucked up the beautiful people like he messed he was not singing the right part and the whole band kind of looked at him and then marilyn manson blamed the drummer he was like he's new wait there got to be a video of that. I haven't looked that up after this.

Yeah. He was like, he's new. We're working it out. Man, what a move. Dude, that's so good. I couldn't imagine the piece of shit you have to be to just blame your drummer. Yeah. And I think the drummer drummer he looked pretty young

too i mean he's probably like 25 maybe was like a baby when the beautiful people came out or whatever and i'm sure he's an amazing drummer too to be like a touring session drummer you know and then marilyn manson just fat and drunk and he's like no no no it's you that sucks not me do you remember marilyn manson like i think it was a couple years ago. Maybe that tour where he got injured because his goth contraption fell on him. It was like a spider or something. He was climbing on it. I'm like, dude, bro, you're like 45 years old.

Can we stop with the goth backdrops that are killing you? Yeah, 100%. God, this, I mean. goth backdrops that are killing you yeah 100 yeah god this i mean yeah like when he went to the hospital they're like what happened you you were quiet you were climbing an upside down cross how old are you you're 50 yeah i know they're like most people like get hurt jogging yeah some type of strenuous activity but yeah i guess you had to climb a giant inflatable bible or something yes and then the doctor's just like has to make small talk with marilyn manson he's

he's like so so brian oh i'm sorry marilyn sorry yeah what's his title it's like the prince is a prince of darkness or god i think the prince of darkness is just the devil okay but he has like a title where he's like i don't know but he's just oh god just the mat oh you're you're you mean general manager of hot topic is that what you mean yeah yeah damn he probably was uh i remember i remember i used to be so nervous to go into Hot Topics. I thought it was like the kids were so cool. Only the cool kids, yeah. I was like, I got to get in there and get my Slipknot t-shirt.

Yeah, I got to get my Blue Flame chain wallet, which I had, and a Slipknot shirt. Hell yeah. Killer combo right there. Got an MXP. killer combo right there got an mx dude mxp i used to i used to have a good charlotte t-shirt that had the whole front was uh a picture of their second album the young and the hopeless or third album i think oh yeah yeah that had lifestyles of the rich and the famous on it yeah it's like green it's bright i'm just wearing like four schlubby white trash guys from fucking waldorf waldorf middle of nowhere shit town maryland and i'm like man these guys are cool they're so fucking cool meanwhile yeah

it's like also as you get older and then you realize to like oh yeah when you're like 15 you're like this 25 year old is a god and then you turn like 30 and you're like 15, you're like, this 25-year-old is a god. And then you turn like 30 and you're like, what are they doing? Do they own property? Are they okay? Yeah. Well, no, they're doing so good. Well, yeah. They're doing so good.

That is true. They are. But yeah, most of the bands aren't. Like most... Because I was like... I went down like a rabbit hole one day and I was just like reading up on like... I was like, I want to know like what these dudes do yeah you know and like yeah like a lot of them like just have to they have normal like jobs they just have very normal jobs you're like fuck i listen to your

band all the time yeah i mean um i've probably talked about it on here but my friend zach uh he plays bass in uh pianos become the teeth and they're a pretty big band like for for what they are like they're on epitaph okay well okay yeah no the mic didn't pick up that loud burp um but yeah they got signed to epitaph records which is insane it's huge yeah it's a major label at this point yeah but also yeah i mean and just a legendary label and then also he's like well you know when this kind of like peters out i'll probably just join my dad's company you know or like i think it was like a landscaping company or something you know what i mean it's just so weird yeah when you're 18 you're like oh my god you're on epitaph records and you're like yeah but i don't know i don't know if that pays the bills for the rest of my life you know i know it's so fucking nuts it's like you're uh anyway

it's it's fucking insane but uh how do i bring that up uh hot topic anyway another store and this is funny because like our friends have that this i mean it's a popular podcast come town and on there they would talk about i when i heard them say this i couldn't believe it but they would say how like pack sun was like another store where they were nervous to go in because they thought like they weren't cool enough and everyone who worked there and it was and i had i remember the same thing dude i felt like a poser, you know? Yeah. That's what the whole store was for.

That's what the PacSun brand was. It's all poser. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And the kids, a lot, and like most of the kids, because like, it's weird. Because I remember, and I remember even having this thought too when I got like 19, you know, and I would go there and I'm like, man, lame people work here now. I'm like, people used to work

here used to actually be cool and now these are like just poser kids it's just like oh that's what it always was yeah but it's funny to like turn 19 and you're like a bald necklace used to mean something in this town you used to have to be cool to wear a hurley t-shirt are you fucking kidding me i remember there was this one manager used to work there and i was like gosh she's so cool and then she ended up and this was like i was like 14 to like 16 she worked when i would go to the mall and stuff anyway when i ended up being like a senior in, she was in one of my undergrad classes. Huh. And then I got to know her and I was like, oh, she's just normal.

She's not cool at all, actually. Yeah. She puts her chain wallet on one pocket at a time like everybody else. Yeah. Yeah. But dude, one time I had like a very traumatic experience in a PacSun. Really? Well, I was like a poser.

Like I tried skateboarding. I wasn't good at it. I quit. What did you do? But I still wore. You accidentally said Blink 183. And you're like, no, I didn't mean it. But I, well, oh, yeah, no.

Well, yeah, but so I would still like, i like the skateboarding as like the look you know so i wore like skate clothes and i wore like skate shoes oh dude every shirt that i had was like a vulcan thing it was yeah it's also funny where you draw the line like i'm like i'll wear alien workshop but only posers wear hurley like i refuse to wear i refuse to wear hurley but for some reason i could wear like etnies and vulcum and be like yeah no i'm cool you know it's also just like how dumb we kids are it's like yeah i would never wear a shirt now that just has a brand on it you know like and that's all we were doing it's just like oh here's a black shirt with white lettering that says dc shoes on it yes yeah and i remember my my grandpa made fun my grandpa made fun of me he's like oh here's a black shirt with white lettering that says dc shoes on it yes yeah and

i remember my my grandpa made fun my grandpa made fun of me he's like oh does does nike pay you to be a billboard and i was like no shut up yeah dude and like that's all it is and then but like i remember like all the bands that's what they wore like all pot like i recently went down like a rabbit like oh yeah i was saying i went down this rabbit hole and i was watching like old youtube videos of like uh like warp tour like drive-through pop punk bands at the warp tour and like everyone yeah looks horrible like the clothes the bands are wearing i'm like this is like god these it definitely looks like the corner of the high school that like everyone made fun of during lunch yes just these dweeby kids like oh my god

yeah so gross uh yeah and then also like when bracelets came back as like a thing for a while and uh tight t-shirts pop punk band guys wore real tight t-shirts yeah that was another spot where i drew the line to is like yeah my t-shirts were form-fitting but they weren't like super tight but then also when like all the screamo guys started wearing like girl jeans oh my god that started like the hipster jean thing right but they were literally wearing girls jeans like forever 21 pants and stuff and i'm like and they were like and it's just like why yeah man but you know what we weren't we weren't open-minded we didn't know oh yeah yeah i mean even uh but still i kept that shit for a long time.

I was like, oh, I'm going to have like a swoop haircut forever. I remember when I worked with Bobby Slayton. I've talked about it a bunch on this podcast, but of like how like just shitty he was that weekend. But he was very funny. So I was like, I think I must have been like 27 when I was hosting for him. And again, he is the pit bull of comedy. I think I must have been like 27 when I was hosting for him. And again, he is the pit bull of comedy. I've told this story before, but he had like a very gruff voice,

guy in like his 60s who's been doing comedy forever. Yeah. He had a residency at the Hooters Casino in Las Vegas. So this is like the type of comic. And I remember he was like, he was like, how old are you? And I was like,

27. He was like, you got three years left on that haircut. I was like, touche, touche, Bobby. That's so good.

It's really good. Touche. Dude, I love hanging out with people who are like that. I mean, no, heithead but i mean no for sure that was that was one where i had to give it i mean it was also fun hanging out with him too once you're like oh who cares like you're just a shithead yeah that's like your whole personality oh by the way two things yes oh three things i got one bar in the battery so we just wait or switch it. I think you should probably switch it.

We'll take a break right there. So we're going to hit stop. Switch that boy out. And we're back. All right. You didn't say record. God damn it. Okay.

You want to hit stop? No, but I did hit it. I mean, I'm at eight seconds. Oh, I'm at 11. This is bad. Now I'm at 11, 12, 13, 14. Should we restart it? 16, 17. No, let's leave this in.

This is good content. Okay. We're just going to count out the rest of the minutes. We're back. We're back. Oh, I just packed. We're back. I had to change my batteries, folks.

That's my girlfriend in the back loving the dog. Wow. Show off. Oh, I had this Pac-Sun story. I was talking about when I was traumatized in Pac-Sun. So my dad was buying me. I needed new shoes. And so I wanted to go.

Karen, you got to go. I wanted to go to Pac-Sun and buy somenies uh-huh but my you know i can't drive i'm too young yeah and you need to pay you need to pay for stuff you need skate shoes to not skate yes and anyway so my dad takes me to pack sun and uh this like attractive ish uh chick who works there is like you know like helping me with the shoes and i remember she went she did something she said something like oh yeah and these are like extra thick so when you're skateboarding um you know like they'll last longer than other shoes and my dad's like yeah but you don't skateboard. Why are you buying these shoes? Wow.

Dude, it killed me. I was just like, and the girl just looked at you and you're just like, you know, you just like, God, you felt like such a poser. Now, did you get upset at your dad in the car? You're like, why did you say that? No, I was. That's like how embarrassed I was. Now my dad thinks I'm a post even my dad thinks i'm a poser yeah he's like you poser bitch you couldn't ollie if your life depended uh yeah i would always hate that stuff of being in like the

dressing room oh yeah like does it fit do you want me to grab something like leave me alone no yeah i remember when i started shopping without parents i thought it was so cool yeah i was like i'm gonna fucking adult yeah yeah also the the mall was cool for a while oh dude like it was cool for everybody not just kids like everybody oh yeah yeah it's like go to the mall and just kind of walk around dude my mail like just came really oh it's 6 30 never mind it feels like it's like go to the mall and just kind of walk around dude my mail like just came really oh it's 6 30 never mind it feels like it's 10 o'clock i um yeah i saw a tweet today somebody said they're like i don't want to be dramatic but uh it getting dark at 5 p.m every

day is ruining my life like oh dude i saw that that's so That's so good. I agree with that wholeheartedly. It changes everything. Well, it's also crazy how we never get used to it. We've been doing it. You do it your whole life. And a year goes by quick the older you get, but you just never get used to it. I know. Listen, we have a year of coronavirus.

Flew by. Because, dude, during summer i sometimes i wouldn't go running until like 7 30 yes i mean now you have to run by five o'clock or you have to start running by like 4 30 well yeah it's because it's gonna get dark at 5 30 like even around like three o'clock i'm like christ that's a wrap on the day i better wind down it's gonna be dark soon i feel like an old man i'm like well i'll get my slippers and retire i guess around 5 15 and it's even more depressing when you work from home it just feels like you just you just see the day going by you're

just like what the fuck am i doing yeah but just staring at a computer screen hey man yeah just looking at warp tour videos of 2004 yeah there you go no i mean it is watch it is amazing but um yeah i uh yeah no i i still can't get used to it where it's just like hey yeah the whole day just feels like it just ends at five and i'm like i guess i'll go to bed soon but in the summer you're like it's nine o'clock who cares day's just getting started yeah exactly and then uh damn it's crazy i did uh oh i did a show last week you did a show last week i did two i did two shows two indoor shows oh how'd they go uh the first one was good the second one was not good what was the second one uh the second one was in havana grace maryland at the state theater and what happened um so the uh the theater holds i feel like yeah babe uh the theater oh what do you got there chocolate cover dark chocolate almonds i texted

karen to buy some sweets oh this guy's got some munchies what excuse me i mean just some snacks that's what they call it yeah he's got some snacks yeah jesus um uh so yeah friday was at a theater that holds like a hundred some and now with like the new damn you can only have a 25 so i think and the room was big and it was so it's like doing mcgoobies with like 25 people or something you know what i mean or like mcgoobies at 25 so a super high ceiling the headliner was a mentalist and uh yeah the crowd was old and also when you pull into hobbit of grace like when i turned on the street there was just a massive trump pent sign and i was like cool yeah very god dude what who i don't know. I get it. The world sucks. But no show is better than that. Truly.

And like the ceiling was so high and the audience was old. And like I just I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm like they're also sponsored by some vodka company. So there's free vodka. So I was just drinking that. And I love Stefan and Eric, the dudes that run big time in comedy. So it was like very fun hanging out with them.

And yeah, crowd was light. And I was like, you know what? All right, I'm just going to have fun out there. And then also the, the bathroom there,

the, the two urinals in the men's bathroom, each urinal just had a picture of trump and then a picture of biden so like you could you could pee on it you could you could pee on either of their faces you get it wait you called that the eastern shore oh yeah i did well i was joking about that because that's where i'm from uh but yeah hobbit of of Grace is like what? In the north, right? It's like closer to Pennsylvania. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, but so like when you were on stage,

like were people having fun there or were you just like, this sucks? Dude, the average age, it sucks. There was like a table of younger people up front. So there's like two tables up front and then maybe like three or four tables behind that and then the rest of that was all theater seating that was empty uh so it was like sort of like an it was like an old school theater where they had the theater seating that like went up and then

there was like a little like orchestra pit kind of thing. And that's where the tables were. And then there was a stage and the ceiling, I don't know, it was like a hundred feet high. So like I came out. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I'm just saying like, yeah, it's one of those shows where you're like,

this isn't going to go well. Right. Yeah. I'm like, but I'm going to have fun with it because the show that I did on Wednesday at a restaurant was really fun. right and yeah i like but i'm gonna have fun with it because the show that i did on wednesday at a restaurant was really fun um but friday so friday i go out and i was like ah like i'm just i'm just gonna riff around because fuck it like also it's this crowd is so small um so it's like yeah it's good to be in havre de grace mary Wow. I could be like just joking, like could be anywhere.

And now I'm here. And then I was like, I like your guys bathroom is I saw that you had Biden on one urinal and Trump on another. Is that how you guys voted? Not like joking around. Did they like that? They did. They did.

And I was like, right. Now it's like, right. We got to count that piss. And so it's like riffing around. And then I was like is the women's bathroom like that like did the toilets have biden or trump in the toilets in the women's bathroom and this woman's like no and i was like good because women shouldn't vote right and that got an applause break like they were like and like, woo! And I was like, okay. Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's really funny.

Yeah, and I was like, okay, cool. You guys are going to have fun. This is cool. So I was like, I like you guys. And then there was a guy on his phone. And I was like, sir. I was like, sir, you're on your phone. There's like 20 people here and you're on your phone.

And he didn't even look up from his phone. He's like, yeah, because you suck. Oh, shit. on your phone and he didn't even look up from his phone he's like yeah because you suck oh shit i was like really i just started what are you like and also like just coming off of an applause break he's like you suck and he didn't look at you at all oh bro he was just on his phone and it was just like a fat bald dude just scrolling on his phone i was like wow did pete did the crowd like boo him the crowd like just like got uncomfortable it's like and then you bombed after that i mean it was no so like it wasn't a bomb it was just tough it was just like every joke after that like liked riffing, but when you did material, like, again, the average age of the audience was, like, 65.

Like, everybody had gray hair. I was trying to, like. Wait, how old was that guy? I'd have to say that guy was, like, in his 50s, maybe. He might be in his 40s. He looked very unhealthy. But then he goes, like, yeah, you suck. I was like, I suck.

He's like, well it's like well why did you come to the show what like why are you here you had to pay money and risk your life to come to a show and he goes i'm waiting for the headline i'm waiting for the real act and and the real act umar was a mentalist slash hypnotist oh my god and like that's why does this show exist and i and i just i wanted to rip into that guy i'm like i suck you're waiting to see a mentalist but i didn't want to i didn't want to say that because of course that guy's like the headliner but you know but i just kind of i like kind of got out of it a little bit where i was like i was like all right well i want to do some material it kind of relates to you and we'll make this fun for you i'm gonna see what bits i have about fat fucking assholes

and uh so that got it they're gonna laugh that got a good reaction and then like i kept looping back and i was like you guys are all good except for that one guy and like i kept like messing with that guy and then there's a table of like young younger people up front and a dude laughed and then he said something and it's like oh christ am i losing you guys too would you would you just say sir he was like i i just said you're you're relentless and i love it i was like oh i'm sorry i'm sorry i mean you're relentless that's great he's like you're relentless and i love it and i was like ah but yeah so that was like that was so weird where it's like i know this isn't gonna go well and i hate that guy and the rest of the audience had fun but the guy's

like no you suck i'm like i literally just started what yeah dude it it's so funny like uh i mean like wow i get so frustrated when i show up to a show and I'm like come on what are we doing here like I would rather go home and not perform well then yeah it's an hour drive home where I'm like fuck that guy that guy fuck it I suck you fucking suck you piece of shit. Dude, oh man, it was great. Like I did the outdoor show I did was on a Thursday and I was the quote, I'm putting in quotes, the headliner. Love it. And, uh, but you know, at my level, our level, when we're headlining like local shows, there's going to be like a million comics on those shows.

That's yeah. That's what I had on wednesday and that was actually really fun and uh so there's like a million comics before me seven but that's a lot and yeah well especially if they're all doing what like 10 minutes yeah and then so i i go to the venue i gotta do shout out to this kid sam rubin he's booked me to headline another show before which is also super fun and then he's like really like hungry to like produce like a good show and he's like i think he like he asked the right questions and he's he's uh he wants to book the right people but anyway yeah so yay shout out to him killer like for covid pretty killer setup um do we want to say killer when it's related to

a covid show that's true uh yeah it's a pretty uh it's pretty uh i don't know what another word pretty well i heard you murdered people oh yeah i did I didn't wear a mask. Love it. No. So I show up and it's really cool. It's like between... It's at this brewery that's in Baltimore City, actually. It's in this like a new apartment complex near like Fed Hill, Locust Point. So it's like in their courtyard. Sounds about right.

And their courtyard is a brewery. And then it's a long courtyard with like a – it looks like a stage essentially, this concrete platform. And so they used that as the stage. And then they just had seating going all the way back, sold it out. And – well, this is where I hope Sam isn't listening. I mean, puts on a great show. So Sam goes on. dude has a rough set and uh and

to be fair i think he's newer and i think uh yeah he he anyway so i'm just like i'm like oh this is gonna suck like this crowd is just too spread out they're not into it right and uh you know but he's hosting hosting hosting a show and running a show sucks and. And that's why I flubbed the early show with the Mark Norman because you're just so in your head. Yeah, the last thing you're thinking about is performing well. You're like, okay, is everybody set up? Do we sell enough tickets? Yeah, you got to wait.

Dude, if you're booking seven comics, the chances of every dumb idiot comic showing up there on time is so fucking low. that would give me so much anxiety and then anyway i'm sure there's all a bunch of questions sort of like when do i go up and blah blah it's like yeah fucking show up will you yeah and uh oh you know what we did get though we haven't had a long time like i don't like i don't know why it's only a thing with like at shows that are like when you first starting out like the you know the shows you would do as like a beginner comic yeah for some reason before any show started like we would have to do a fucking huddle like we're a

football team or something like yeah and there would be like this pep talk yeah there'd be like just and this is like dude it's like you would think we're going to war or something and people are just like all right guys we're about to start all right so it's gonna be a great show i i know this is a good lineup and it's like and we all just want to know what place we're on in the lineup i'm not gonna lie to you some of us are not gonna go home tonight okay some of us will die that's just what comedy is i'm gonna be honest with you i like you guys but our chances are not good like i remember there's this show uh back like several years ago it was i think like probably one of the best open mics in baltimore was that uh eric woodworth ran it at um oh uh coco lane coco lane in ellicott city

yeah and i remember we would do the huddle outside which was in this like courtyard area and i just remember being and i'm like it's so cold is this necessary you know it has to be standing in a circle i forgot all about those where it's like okay let's go outside and go over the lineup but yeah everybody would kind of circle up and be like oh what's what's what's going on there's there's 20 comics standing it's just like silly because yeah and then you run a show and you realize like oh none of that none of that has to happen that's just like you can find you can weird yes you can find the first three people individually and be like you're first you're second you're third and then go from yeah because

then you go to a show that doesn't do that and you're like oh i'm never doing this ever again yeah yeah but it is funny to think it's like i guess everybody huddles up that's what you do you gotta huddle up dude there's a show um for people who don't know, in D.C., the show that Ralph Cooper ran. It was the hottest show. RFD, baby. RFD. It was huge. It was a free open mic night that would draw like 100 hundred people if not more oh probably 150 i would say

almost hundreds because that back room was massive mass and it would just be sold out every fucking thursday yeah no it was the hot when i first started i remember mike finazzo like got me on that show and it was like oh my god yeah and it was in Chinatown in D.C. Yeah. It was like right on the edge of Chinatown. Yeah. Yeah. And so I remember it was so hard to get on. Like, if you didn't know someone, you're not going to get on.

It was like you have to wait months. And anyway, so the first time I did it, I think the first time I did it, it wasn't as hot as it used to be. But they take you in this side room and it's insane the pep talk they give. I forgot about all of these. Oh, my God. Because like they would like, I was like, wait, are we like and scared straight or something we're like why am i being yelled at before i'm doing a comedy show do you want me to fight somebody am i yeah i know i'm like do you like i don't i'm like dude i'm just gonna tell prepared jokes um

i think we all got it he's like all right good luck this guy would open up his show and look it's his show ralph is a great guy he can do whatever he wants it's just hilarious that he would open up his show with a 25 minute set and uh 15 of those minutes would be him yelling at the crowd to shut the fuck up literally like they would have the whole crowd right which is super nice that like they're aware enough to like let the audience know you can't talk but just like it was so over the top. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Well, like speaking of like, are we going to war?

Are we fighting? Like he would give talks of just like if somebody's talking, they need to shut the fuck up. And you guys need to police that too. So what we're going to do is we're going to practice. All right. We're all going to say shut the fuck up at the end of three. Ready?

One, two, three. He's saying this to the audience. Yeah. It's like saying to the audience. Shut the fuck up. This is part of his hosting set. So it's like speaking of scared straight, the audience is like, like they're nervous to even laugh, you know, because they're like, we don't want to make like any sound.

That was the best. But it is so funny to be like one two three shut the fuck up all right this next guy is very funny coming to the stage not really prime for comedy yeah um so yeah i remember they used to do that oh anyway so then back to the show on thursday we huddle up and i was like oh this is nice it feels like nostalgic you're like this is cute yeah yeah you're like a veteran at that point you're like i remember when we used to do this yeah so we huddle up and so yeah the host goes up doesn't have the best set but hey it's his night uh the second comic i can't remember his name but dude

this guy ripped the whole time he was on stage nice oh this crowd is tight it was a very up and down show i feel like by the time i got on oh and i got nervous because it's one of those things we talk about all the time we're like yeah so i i park i see our buddy uh zach is there he has a date with him. I'm like, ah, God damn it. Our buddy Anna, who, you know, redhead. Yeah. She was there and she has a bunch of friends who are from out of town. So they were there. Uh-huh.

And I was like, did you know I was on the show? She's like, yeah, we came to see you. And I was like, God damn it. And then this chick who comes to Gin and Jokes, she brought like seven people. So I'm just like fuck yeah and uh i felt yeah i was like i haven't performed in months let alone did a a headlining set yeah like i think i did yeah i'm sorry go ahead oh i just say you haven't done like more than probably 15 minutes in like forever oh easy yeah and so i uh karen just fell i uh uh hey hey she has a drinking

problem we're talking about it are you okay because you're ruining the podcast john said you're ruining anyway um she's she's gonna uh um hey hey She's going to... Hey. Hey. Oh, anyway. So, yeah, I get up on stage and I make a bunch of people. There's like two couches that were in front of me that weren't... There's nobody sitting in them. I made people sit in it. And then I'm an idiot.

I immediately started making fun of them. And this girl is like... She was like, why did I come up here i was like i don't know i have no yeah i was like it's all you guys are nice to do it yeah and uh so i was trying to do crowd work they but it was too too far away too too long of a show and i was like because my goal was like do like 12 minutes of crowd work and then just close out with like easy jokes yeah no one it was just too hard to do crowd work most of the people were like way in the back right and so you're like oh my god i just got to do material this is scary this is i remember like yeah thinking that as i'm going into I'm like, so I'm a school.

Yeah. You know, you're like, this is so dumb. That's how it was for me on Friday was like everybody's so spread out. And I tried to do crowd where I'm like, how about you, sir? What do you do? And he was like, I'm an archivist. And I was like, yeah, OK. And like I was like, you look like a guy that actually like would be on ancient aliens.

And that got a joke. And they're like, haha. Or like got a laugh. They're like, OK, what's that? It's cool. I was like, you look like a guy that actually like would be on ancient aliens. And that got a joke. And they're like, haha, or like got a laugh. They're like, okay, what's next? Oh, that's cool. It was like, it was just tough to keep the energy going. That's all. Yeah. So I, um, I think I did pretty well considering, uh, some jokes got some really big pops and

then some jokes were just like, I'm like, am I bombing it? But I can't tell. Yeah. That's the worst feeling you're like is it fine or is it the worst and so i um uh but there were some cool moments like about that whole night so like the first like i was on stage and uh i was just fucking with these kids up front and i don't know it was like where do you live and he said oh i said i live in hamden and then he yelled like oh we're neighbors i live in woodbury and i was

like oh cool and i was like yeah and i was like oh i live right by you and he's like we should disc golf and i was like oh dude i do play disc golf and so after the show like i i got his information and we're gonna go play disc golf together oh nice nice and then uh and then so his the girl that the group he was with this one girl i was fucking with her and she was like we were talking about i talked about adnan that was like a big thing i talked about adnan from serial and i was just like we were debating on whether he did or not like from stage yeah so they're like one chick uh was like no he totally did it and her friend was like he didn't do it was just really fun. And then after the show, I talked to them and she was like, oh, yeah, like you make fun of me and my friends all the time.

We go to your show, Gin and Jokes. You make fun of me all the time. And I was like, oh, that's nice that they would come. And I remember now her and her friends, like I remember they came to the show and I really fucked with them like for my whole set. Like I think I call them like i think i call them like i think i call them like whores and it was like they were dying like they loved it and they were like ratting on they were like telling me stuff about each other like that i could just make fun of them for oh yeah hilarious yeah like well this bitch right here yeah and they loved it and then

they would come back oh and then it was funny because i just remember like when they were at the first show, like I was just yelling in their face a lot. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. This is your first time here. This is just this is part of the show. This is why no one else is shocked. And they like thought it was hilarious anyway. So she was there.

Nice. And then she, I'm guessing, doesn't have a great relationship with her dad. Probably not. No, she seems like a cool chick. I know. I'm fucking around. After the show, like, oh, right before I did my last joke, because I was self-conscious, I just kept saying, like,

guys, sorry, I'm not a headliner. I don't know why I'm headlining this show. I feel like this sucks. I'm sorry. And I think I said that, like, throughout the set. That's a good runner. Really good runner right there. Pretty normal.

But so then after the show, this couple comes up to me and this kid, he's like 28. And he's like, I just want to let you know, this is the best night I've had since COVID. I haven't like laughed or smiled this much. Nice. I was like, whoa, that's so nice. I was like, what do you do, dude? He's a pandemic expert. Yeah, that's so nice. I was like, what do you do, dude? He's a pandemic expert. Yeah, that's a tough time.

And I was like, damn, you, 28, he got out of grad school and his first year there's a pandemic. How insane is that? Some people are just lucky, Omar. I was like, dude, you were so, you have like probably a degree where you would normally not have a job.

Yeah. You're so lucky. When he heard about COVID, he was like, yes. I know. He's like, oh, I got a job. Oh, my God. And now he's going to be out of a job pretty soon. But, dude, I was like, yo, he should come on the podcast.

Oh, that would be interesting. That would be cool. And he works for hopkins and uh i follow him on uh instagram he has uh like he's always like posting like oh i interviewed here i interviewed there and i talked to the new york times and yeah pretty cool i would like that um but he would have to get he would have to get clearance from hopkins to do our i was like don't risk your job to do our podcast. Oh, yeah.

If he wants to come on under a different name, that would be fine, too. I said, well, can we just not say your name? He was like, no. He was like, I can't. There's no way I can speak anonymously as an expert. I was like, that's a good point. We could just give him a fake name like, I don't know, Dr. Anthony Fauci or something. Yeah.

I think that could work. I don't know. That sounds great. And we're could work. I don't know. That sounds great. And we're like, hey, number one question. Why do you hate America? Yeah. Why do you hate the blue collar worker in the Midwest? Go.

That's great, man. Yeah. That was really nice. That's awesome. Yeah. Wednesday, that was kind of the night that I had where it was. So it was in a restaurant behind a Wells Fargo in a business park in Columbia, Maryland. That sounds like Columbia.

Right. But like, I don't know. Yeah, there were a ton of people in there. And I was like, wow, this kind of makes me nervous. But the stage, but really it was just like the microphone was further away from the audience which was fine um yeah i was closing that out and it was just so nice to be around comics and weirdos again like just people yeah that is really fun that that's like the best part about the shows is just hanging out yeah and so uh so yeah i got uh yeah so the dude taylor's aruba that runs the show same thing like younger dude but he's doing a great job like the room was i don't know a good amount of people there and uh he was very nice and he was like

thank you for doing this on short notice i'm like yes i was so busy on a wednesday yeah during a during a pandemic. So I was supposed to do that room. I don't think it's going to happen anymore. Oh, yeah. I might have done the last because he was like, yeah, we'll see what Governor Hogan has to say about it. Yeah, there's no way. Man, that's crazy.

Oh, dudes. Go ahead. Oh, I was just just gonna say like the uh the so i i got free drinks but i was like i felt a little weird like drinking at the bar with people that didn't have their mask and stuff but they had like a little patio spot out front so i was like cool i'll just drink out there and i was talking to um a comic who i have to tell you a story about at the end of the show. Oh, okay. But I was talking to him for a little bit, and then this dude walks out, bigger dude, like super long hair, and you could tell he just got a tattoo.

Like most of his forearm was like just tattooed because it kind of like it looked very fresh, but it also had like that plastic like kind of wrap on it. So the guy was out there with who's like oh you just got tattooed he's like yeah i just got this done over at um uh bullets ink ink spelled like not like incorporated i'm like right right i get it because it's like tattoo tattoo yeah yeah yeah and um and i was like we just were talking about tattoos and mostly i was just like killing time out there and i was like we just were talking about tattoos and mostly i was just like killing time out there and uh i was like yeah i don't really have any tattoos like i'm 34 like i feel like it's weird to get a tattoo now it's like starting smoking past the age of 18 like

anybody that smokes like for the first time when it's legal it's kind of weird you know what i mean like oh yeah like i'm not saying i'll never get a tattoo but it feels weird at 34 to have no tattoos and be like yeah now i'm like super into it well because now it's like come on man what are you trying to what are you trying to prove what are you trying to prove man yeah yeah exactly um what would i i thought about it like what would you get a tattoo of that's the thing i don't even know i don't like i would be you got a tattoo when you're 16 what do you think it would be uh that would have to i mean i think it would be a it have to was i more into like pop punk stuff then like it would either be like a slipknot s or like the MXPX, the MXPX like head or something.

Or I would, I'd have something like whack around like my, like, I would probably get some like anti-flag lyrics on my, on me. Oh, it would be pathetic. I was like,

so I thought it was like so into politics. I'm like, dude, the fucking government's evil. That's like, you know, when Bush was in Iraq and shit, when actually it was actually,

everything was really bad. Yeah. Yeah. would be pathetic oh dude they'd be so bad but but still yeah it's a weird thing like once you kind of miss that boat you you miss it it's weird to be like no no i'm a tattoo guy now like oh yeah dude i don't know i also just don't like to me like tattoos and traveling and all that shit i don't need to hear about it i also feel like it's going to be cool when we're older to not have tattoos like when we're in the old folks home be like no no i never followed trends you understand no i'm cool oh man that's so funny, man, the old folks home around like a neighborhood like Hamden. It would be so silly 30 years from now.

Dude, the gauged ears, so many tats. I'm like, whew. I don't know. I don't know, Louise. You look pretty stupid to me. My skin's fine. Oh, dude. Like the face tattoos, too.

Like the kids. Like, can you imagine visiting your grandfather and he has face tattoos? Face tattoos, neck tattoos, hand tattoos. Hand tattoos. They're like, what did grandpa do when he was young? He was a TikTok star. No, it was a different time. He was a barista. He's like, come here.

Oh my God. Could you imagine like a TikTok? Because people who had face tattoos probably back in the day, they were like real warriors, you know? Like they fought in wars. Yeah. Like Native American. I don't even know if this is true,

but this is what Mel Gibson showed me. Sure, yeah. Apocalypto. If the great documentary Apocalypto is true yeah tiger jaguar paw acquired his face anyone who doesn't like that that movie is amazing that movie rules uh okay i couldn't even watch it oh sorry it's so good it's so good um so but was i was talking to this guy and uh it was like the three of us out there. And he was like, yeah, this one like really hurt. Because I was saying like, oh, I never got tattoos.

And he's like, why? You're like, I forget what we're talking about. I was like, no, I just never got into it. He's like, something really hurt. Like I got one right here on my rib that was, man, that was really bad. I'm like, right, right. And yeah. And it's like, did you get that just so you could say that sentence um and then somehow the other dude that was out there um i think they were talking about like

celtic stuff or something like that um but do you know do you know what runes are like are you any no runes it's like i think it's like a type of stone or it's like it's something like that it's like an ancient thing and uh somehow that dude was like yeah i was thinking about because i think maybe the other guy had a tattoo of it or something like that but he was like it was like i was actually thinking about getting like a rune tattoo i think i was like you got to be careful about that man if you you better find out if that's the right rune that's related to your birthstone because if you do that you get a rune that's not related to you and you get that tattooed you're gonna curse your blood you're gonna have cursed blood

i was just outside drinking my beer, waiting to go up, and I was like, we're back. Comedy. Yeah, and you're like, oh, this is why Trump's president. Runes are the letters in a set of related alphabets known as runic alphabets, which were used to write various Germanic languages before the adoption of the Latin alphabet

and for specialized purposes thereafter okay so i was kind of wrong kind of wrong but still but they are on rocks there you go i think they were they were on stones uh they etched them had to etch it in there but yeah so the one dude is like yo sing about getting this ruin he's like be careful you could curse your blood i've seen it happen i've seen it happen god damn uh but yeah then that show was good i had a woman in the audience that was like kind of a heckler but she sucked and like the whole audience was on my side and that was great because i was like man always i was like it's good to be with you guys during like quarantine and she was like quarantine's over and i was like well what what do you mean like

i was like right but i mean it shouldn't be cases are going up we're all getting covid tonight and i was like i know and it's isn't that crazy that someone was just like why do you have to yell like you thought it now you have to say it out loud well she was just very drunk and then i like and then i got an applause so i was like i was like yeah i was like well what do you want me to say you want me to just say covid she's like yeah say covid i was like right but you knew what i meant right like you know i'm not doing a press conference up here and that got an applause break and then uh so i was like fucking with her a little bit and uh later i was like talking about like jobs and stuff i was

like well what about like this audience are you guys all working from home or you guys have to go into the office and most of the crowd was like yeah we work from home and i was like well why do you work from home i heard the quarantine was over right and so that got a good reaction and then i was like i'm sorry that's good i was like i don't mean to like pick on you but like you know that was an easy one and then she tried to say something and she slurred her words she was like you you just you proving me right every time you speak and i just took a beat and i was like well you're doing a very good job speaking and everybody was like everybody's like oh damn that's tight it was very nice yeah so then after the show this couple came up to me and

they're like like you were great and that woman every time she talked i was like oh no please stop talking no yeah i know dude and i gotta say uh and uh i just got uh a friend's girlfriend i chastise me for posting a sexist joke so uh this might be a sexist uh thing i'm about to say but it's almost always a woman who yells out at us it's like men we have so much we need to improve on we're so many areas in our life that we need to do better but like please to god women can you learn how to act in a fucking comedy show it's insane it's crazy it's almost always a woman who's heckling who's drunk and yelling and slurring her words like it's insane it's all it's 99 it's a woman yeah rarely is it a guy it's 99%. It's a woman. Yeah. Rarely is it a guy that's like, no, that's not true.

And it's like, yeah, I know. I'm joking. Yeah. Like even in your first example where the guy was shitty to you where he was on the phone. I talked to him first. You talked to him first. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't understand. Yeah. I don't even know. Yeah. He didn't even look at you. He didn't even look at me, dude. He was like, you suck.

I was like, all right. It's crazy how often it's a woman acting like that at a comedy show. I mean, it's unbelievable. But it's also just that's one of those things where it's like you just give them enough rope and they're going to hang themselves. Like I even too. Oh, yeah. I was like, i'm sorry that was just like an easy joke to make uh sorry about it and she's like was you you doing a good job

you proving me right every time you speak it's like dude there was a woman at a gin and jokes and i felt so bad because i remember i think she had seen me multiple times and then she came to a gin and jokes i ran into her and like this guy she was dating she's an older woman uh like in her like late 40s early 50s and anyway she was like oh you're umari like i was walking on the avenue she was dining outside and she's like i saw you blah blah blah we're going to your show and i was like cool nice so like i'm on stage and uh like this woman will not stop yelling out and it's like and i'm just being super nice to her being playful but i'm like ma'am seriously you gotta shut the fuck up does it throughout the whole show and i'm like in between a comic like

dude i see her yeah she's literally like biting her hand to prevent herself from like i'm like dude if you have like a problem you shouldn't be here like if you you gotta control yourself that much yeah just fucking go don't go to it and her boyfriend's trying to keep her quiet he's like putting his hands over her mouth the whole show i'm like like, this sucks. And everyone, dude, it was like out of a movie where like every time she talked, the collective groan from the audience was unreal. I've never heard an audience groan like that. Yeah. It was crazy.

No, I do. It was absolutely crazy. I do love that, though, on the flip side, when a whole crowd is on board of like, this person sucks. They got to go. Because then you're just like, oh, this is tough.

I can say anything I want. Yeah, there was one guy I was asking who had a history degree in the audience. And there was a guy, this was on Wednesday, there was a guy in the back, long hair. And I could tell he had kind of like a camo-y kind of jacket on, but it was like a guy in the back like long hair and i could tell he had like kind of like a camo-y kind of jacket on but it was like a beige camo thing and he was just giving

like kind of weird answers he was like uh yeah i don't know kind of thing and i was like are you okay so like what did you do with your history degree and he was like i joined the navy and then that like started to get an applause break and i was like well that's nice and he was like i joined the navy and then that like started to get an applause break and i was like well that's nice and i was like well that's not really related to history like i didn't and i forgot that it was veterans day and i was like but i think thank you for your service what i'm trying to say is you're a hero you're the man you're the fucking man that's so fun i uh i've also been re i've uh i was before the show so i think we were i was talking about how i watch i've been watching seinfeld i've never seen it

yeah and man it is so i'm like dying out loud laughing really yeah i mean the show is great also the show's great his stand-up is the worst i've thing i've ever seen but the show's great. His stand-up is the worst thing I've ever seen, but the show's amazing. It's always bad. And I love, too, when audiences are laughing. He's like, where does the sock, where does it go in the dryer? And they're like, ah, yes! And it's crazy, too, because comedy back then, or especially the way he did it,

I guess because comedy was still such a brand-new thing. It wasn't so mainstream. People weren't so in the know about it. Yeah. Excuse me. Gesundheit. What are you, allergic to good podcasts? Come on, folks.

Come on. That so much of his comedy was him just pointing things out, but no joke. He would just be like, you go to the pharmacy and the pharmacist is six feet high huh why why can't you be down here what's he doing up there uh uh this show yesterday he was talking about like conductors like of an orchestra he's like do we need them i mean i understand the start you gotta start but then after that like does it's just like you just stand here and do this yeah you're just like speaking of conduct is that any way to conduct yourself in public

i know it's just so funny because seinfeld is such a cunt about comedy and it's like uh you're not good no no i mean his last special is just like uh the same thing like when he talked about he was talking about uber and he was like what what is that by the way is is uber free you just press a button on your phone and then a car shows up is that free and it's like no you out of touch rich person yeah no it's not free a credit card is hooked up to it yes is that free by the way like what what oh uh somebody else pointed out like a huge flaw in that bit uh i think he was talking about the word like take like people like oh we'll take this or we'll it's like oh we'll take an uber and he's like no one says take and it's like yeah dude we all say i'm gonna I'm going to take the train. I'll take a cab. I'll take a bus.

Yeah. Like everyone says we're going to take. Yeah. It's just like. Yeah. It's all silly. That was also a George Carlin bit, I think, from like. Oh, shit.

But I think from like maybe the early 90s, late 80s. And it's not even like a major bit. But George Carlin was like people are always like, would you like to get on the plane get on the plane fuck you i'm gonna get in the plane yes and that's it's like kind of that same bit where it's like i'm gonna take the train what are we talking about you don't take the train yeah yeah it's like are you writing a dr seuss book dude what the fuck did yeah but i get it he was doing comedy for so long at that point. He was just like, fuck it. Yeah.

But yeah, not my cup of tea. Yeah. Oh, but I've been watching... Seinfeld. Curb also. Oh, Curb's great. Curb is the best. I'm watching it backwards because, and I'll tell you why.

I tried watching from season one and I was like, man, I just can't. Everything looks so dated. It's shot in like a square. I'm like, ugh. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't even think it's HD yet. But yeah, that's the thing. When you start from a show, most times too, I'll just kind of cheat. Because I'm doing that with Frasier.

I'm like, I'll just start from season two. Also, I don't think I'm going to miss some crazy backstory with Frasier either. Or like, wait, who is this character? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. Same thing with Seinfeld. I'll sleep through a couple laps. I'm like, I'm not going back.

Yeah, but as it gets going, it's so good. It's so good. And they do do a lot of callbacks. Right. It's like... I don't even remember. Karen will have to be like, oh, that's a callback. I'm like, oh, shit.

Oh, nice. Yeah, I do like that Elaine because... Oh, she's so hot, dude. Julie Louis-Dreyfus went to Towson, so she's an Orioles fan in that show. Like Elaine. Oh. So sometimes she'll wear an Orioles fan in that show, like Elaine. Oh. So sometimes she'll wear an Orioles hat. Nice. Yeah.

Yeah, she was very hot in that show. I've been watching, and Veep, I've been watching so I've been watching Curb and there's a Curb episode where it's so good. I think it's on the second to the last

season where um his agent who's uh played by who's that fat guy jeff garland jeff garland uh his daughter's getting married to this guy who served in iraq yeah yeah so the family's like meeting they're throwing like the whatever i don't know a dinner before the wedding and like everyone who's there at the dinner like thanks him for his service after they shake his hand yeah and larry david didn't and like the whole vibe of the party just like changed and he ended up leaving the party yeah and that's what just reminded me of like you at the show where like everyone's just so willing to give him an applause break and you're just like yeah fuck this guy service well i also didn't even it was just the worst day because it was veterans day like he's like i was in the navy i'm like yeah but what does that have

to do with it literally everybody's like whoa like no i what i meant to say was thank you that's what the best part about larry david is is because he will say everything that we all think like that's like the coolest part about larry you're like god i think that every fucking time yeah it's yeah yeah so good no yeah curb curb is uh is amazing i loved the last season brandon wardell is actually in the opening yes the last season which is yeah they have the flip can't or they have the the camera selfie thing yeah selfie stick damn i'm getting old little camera stick all right should we wrap it what are we doing i was gonna say i think we're about an hour in anyway yeah

we're there let's wrap it up let's wrap it up got some chocolates to scarf down this guy he's he's excited to munch those i got a burger for burger night come on smash burger my guy love a goddamn smash burg um yeah i don't think i have anything uh i got nothing it's gonna get canceled anyway so yeah i'm supposed to do a show at uh the leesburg um what theater is it down there give me one second oh uh yeah we're still working on my band uh athlete. We just got the vocals done this week. So waiting on, uh, miles to mix all of that stuff. Nice.

So that would be cool. So yeah, at the Tally Ho theater, I'll be there on December 26th. If, uh, the country still exists, then day after Christmas.

And that's, I got nothing. I think I have a show, but I'm not going to even plug it because it's going to get canceled. Yeah. I mean, theoretically, I have a show on the 26th, the day after Christmas. So we shall see. But yeah, let's try to jam soon as well.

Oh, I'm down, dude. I've been playing some. I think I'm coming up with some stuff, so maybe I'll have some new stuff for us i like it i like it all right buddy uh this was fun send me your file thank you to everybody for listening and uh we'll talk to you later bye bye peace you