The Digression Sessions - Ep. 43 - Double Duchess!
Episode Date: July 16, 2012“A Little Extraordinary!” Hola Digheads! This ep was recorded a little while ago, but Josh’s external hard drive crashed and its contents were finally recovered! Mike and Josh recorded a ramblin...g intro for about 40 minutes and then Josh interviewed the campy, extraordinary, uber-gay, electro-hop duo – Double Duchess. And, contrary to popular belief they’re not one woman with a huge butt! After 12 years of living in New York, Berlin, Montreal, and Paris, the international Krylon Superstar moved back to his native state of California and in 2008 and met Baltimore/Annapolis based musician and producer d.a.v.O (Dave) in San Francisco. They soon formed Double Duchess. Their sound can be described as a dancey, campy, and hip-hoppy, which transcends genres and genders through a live and interactive theatrical experience. “These high-energy, playful, fun, divas will have you wishing you were as queer as they are…!” – Dave Coullier We also discuss a number of topics for this episode including, but not limited to: coming out of the closet, big butts, Erin Brockovich, local nut jobs, travelling, astrology, vegans, hair dressers, political business, and so much more! Have something to say about this ep? Or do you have anything else Digression Sessions related / unrelated to say? Should Josh stop saving farts in vitamin bottles?!?! Say it on our forum!! DigressionSessions.com !! PLEASE rate, subscribe, and provide a nice comment on the iTunes!! It’ll help the podcast climb the charts! Follow us on the Twitters: @DigSeshPod @BetterRobotJosh @MichaelMoran10 @DoubleDuchess1 DO NOT forget that Mike Finazzo’s album “Stupid Genius” is available via Josh’s record label Better Robot Records on iTunes, Amazon, and Spotify!? Only $3.99 on iTunes! (BetterRobotRecords.com)
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Oh yeah! You okay? Yeah, sorry. Okay. You shitting yourself?
You know that's a sensitive subject with me.
Why'd you have to bring it up?
You're just psyching yourself up?
Grab the bedpan, you.
Refer to the Jim Tisdale episode, everyone.
Yes.
Some shitty stories on that one.
You might even say it was like the origin of the feces.
Oh.
Yeah, well, a real game of craps.
I don't know.
It's real fecal matter, and I don't want to get into it. It is.
It's like scrubbing a poop deck.
This is the worst series of puns we've ever engaged in.
This is the shittiest podcast we've ever done.
Yeah.
Can we wipe this clean?
I think so.
It stinks.
It certainly does.
This podcast stinks.
It certainly does.
Welcome to the Digression Sessions podcast.
Hi, everybody.
I am one half of your favorite pair of earbuds, Josh Kaderna.
And I am the other half of your favorite pair of earbuds. There it is.. And I am the other half of your favorite
pair of earbuds. There it is.
The slipsist with the slipped disc.
Mike
Moran.
I can be both.
Alright, no. Why not?
No, because that's not how
people know you. You're the only
one that knows you with that.
But everybody knows me as the other half of their favorite pair of earbuds.
Of course.
You come up in conversation, they say, Mike Moran?
Oh, yeah.
Him?
He's half of my favorite pair of earbuds.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's the talk.
If you can prove to me that that's true, then I will not only drop that new nickname, I will get that tattooed on my body, the favorite pair of earbuds thing.
I'm Mike Moran, the other half of your favorite pair of earbuds.
Yep.
Where are you going to get it tattooed?
Your choice.
I can request that it be tattooed anywhere on your body.
You certainly can.
We're talking forehead, small of your back, your penis.
Yeah.
Yeah?
Sure.
But you're not going to go through with it, though.
Absolutely not.
Are you kidding me?
Then why would you lie?
Why would you say such things?
Because I'm so confident that no one actually refers to me
as their other half of their favorite pair of earbuds.
Not only is your face going to be red, but you're going to have a tattoo of it all over your face when you hear it.
Everybody says it all the time when your name comes up in conversation.
Like, who's that asshole?
Oh, Mike Moran, the other pair?
So why am I their favorite half of their pair of earbuds if I'm also an asshole?
Stockholm Syndrome, mostly, I'd say.
They've come to love you.
What is Stockholm Syndrome, exactly?
It's when you fall in love with your captor.
Okay, like Patty Hearst?
Yeah, exactly like that.
And Free Willy?
I don't remember enough about Free Willy
Or know who Patty Hearst is
Really?
No
Yeah, exactly like that
I believe Patty Hearst was from Baltimore
Okay
And she was kidnapped by some weird communist party in the late 60s
More of a cult type of thing
So she says that commie pinko jerk
Right
And she was kept in a closet brainwashed.
They made me give up all my possessions and share.
And she, so she was
kidnapped and then a few
months later she shows up on
video surveillance footage at a bank
robbery murdering someone.
This is how long
after? Not that much longer.
Maybe the guy didn't die. She definitely shot
someone. And where was the bank
i can't remember so she just went nuts no one knows she was she was like brainwashed by this
group and eventually it came to to believe in their calls at least for the time being so what
was their cause like uh american consumerism yeah something something like garage capitalism
yeah some sort of uh i'm sure they had uh famous Che Guevara picture somewhere in their reading room.
Black light poster of it.
Oh, boy.
All right.
Well, it is just Mike Moran and I right now holding down the dig sesh.
That's right.
As you may have noticed, we have guests today, but they're going to be arriving a little late,
conflicting with Mike's schedule.
I'm a very busy man.
Busy, busy schedule.
But they're an electro-pop, hip-hop, the hip-hop's group, Double Duchess.
Double Duchess.
Out of San Francisco.
I kept trying to Google them, and I kept getting pictures of women's butts.
Uh-huh. And what did you type I kept getting pictures of women's butts. Uh-huh.
And what did you type in the search box?
Women's butts.
No, no.
See, you can't do that.
You actually have to type what.
I went over this with you last week.
No, I said I tried to, but I kept.
Women's butts.
That's just what happens.
Yeah.
I mean, I wanted to type in double touches.
Uh-huh.
But I just kept typing in women's butt.
So did you get it?
Apparently, there's some woman with a big butt named Double Duchess.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
And is she like a porn star?
Is she a model?
I think more of a model.
Okay.
Were these just sexy?
They're just her butt.
It's all about her butt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It wasn't like medical.
She wasn't like a famous like.
Well, I'm saying. Yeah. I like medical she wasn't like a famous like well i'm saying yeah i understand that she wasn't double dutch's phd she wasn't like a uh you know someone that they do uh you know studies on because her butt is so big okay
she's not a medical oddity well maybe but in a sexy way. The sexiest medical oddity of them.
Since the elephant man.
Since my uncle got elephantitis that one time.
You know, the elephant man didn't actually have elephantitis.
What did he have?
I forget.
Something else.
Yeah, but elephantitis is just of the testicles.
The testicles.
No, it's not.
The huevos.
What?
Yeah. Really? Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
I thought you could get it anywhere.
I watch Double Dutch's PhD every day at 4 o'clock after Dr. Phil.
I think I know something about anatomy.
You know, some people thought that the elephant man was Jack the Ripper for a brief period.
Who?
Name 27 people.
Cecil Howarthen.
Say allegedly. Cecil Howarthin. Say allegedly.
Cecil Howarthin is very litigious.
William Gothroy III of Westminster.
King.
King?
Are you even a king?
The king of Europe.
Oh, the king of Europe.
Franz Ferdinand.
Uh-huh.
The band.
The band from the early aughts.
Yeah.
That rocked everybody.
No, the elephant man was in the area at the time, and there were rumors that he was the one going out and killing prostitutes.
You think so?
That kind of makes sense.
Well, no, it's been proven to be, you know, probably completely bullshit.
But at the time, there were people.
Wait a minute.
You said it's been proven to probably be completely.
Yeah, there's evidence that it's very likely not possible.
Okay.
First, you were very definite.
You're like, oh, no, no, no.
I am very definite.
It's been proven to be completely probably.
The Elephant Man, Jack the Ripper theory has been disproven long ago.
Let me float this one.
Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, Jack the Ripper, Elephant Man.
They're a Venn diagram.
Holy crap.
They're meeting up in the middle right now, this serial killer Venn diagram I just drew.
What do you think of that?
You didn't just draw that.
You just waved your pen in a circular motion.
All right.
Well, I choose to see what I want to see.
And obviously, you don't support me at all.
Done. support me at all. Don Homer.
It was funny, the day that we were talking about that. Talking about
what?
Don Homer. Remember the Simpsons
episode where Homer was
being parodied?
Remember the episode of Don Homer?
When Homer was Don Homer.
Where they killed that guy
in the strip club.
They put that horse head in Ned Flanders' bed.
No, there's a Simpsons parody
where they were referencing
The Godfather 2 where
Homer was like the Don walking around the
old-timey village. Yes.
In New York.
And the day that we were talking
about that, I was falling asleep listening
to a podcast and i swear they just like referenced it like out of no nowhere like while i'm half
asleep they're like good dog no homer huh no weird how simple things like that line up like
sometimes you'll be sometimes that'll happen to me where i'll be listening to a podcast and reading
something on the internet and like the phrase they just said will show up somewhere i had
i had that very experience experience maybe a month ago
where somebody said some word or two
while I looked up at a sign that said the exact same thing.
It's called the law of big numbers, Josh.
Explain.
With all the experiences that we have,
every few months or so we're going to have a seemingly amazing coincidence.
Well, what if it happens more often
than once a month well then there's a god oh and there are no coincidences there are no coincidence
what if it's just you cosmically lining up with the universe and it's signs what if there's not
some god you know up there with his strings puppeting people along it's just once you're open once your chakras are open
uh-huh to the universe you can you can hear well then i then why not take one of those psychic
challenges where you can win a whole bunch of money if you can prove that you're psychic
but it's not being psychic you're confusing the two and then what is it it's just uh having cool
stuff that's your only special power no No, not a special power, but instincts.
Instincts.
Do you think that's real?
Something that you can listen to?
You follow your instincts and better stuff happens.
Not really.
Not in the way that I think you're getting at, no.
What do you think I'm getting at?
I think you're trying to give me a little bit of the Deepak Chopra,
third eye, getting in touch with the universe type of stuff.
You don't buy into that?
Not really, no.
I mean, I think there's certainly ways to like sharpen your instincts and, well, maybe
not your instincts, but your, you know, your senses.
Right.
And how do you do that?
I do the elliptical 20 minutes a day. Uh-huh. And that heightens your senses. S. And how do you do that? I do the elliptical 20 minutes a day.
Uh-huh.
And that heightens your senses.
Slightly, yes.
And your instincts.
We should say that all of Mike's instincts are treadmill related.
It's not a treadmill.
It's an elliptical.
Whatever.
God damn it.
See?
Your bad vibes are ruining this microphone. Do you understand? Do you understand what you're doing? Right. Well damn it. See, your bad vibes are ruining this microphone.
Do you understand?
Do you understand what you're doing?
Right.
Well, no, Mike, let's move away from the universe talk.
Let's talk about you.
Sounds good to me.
All right.
So you recently wrote an article.
Yes.
Actually, I kind of wrote it a while ago.
It took forever to get published.
I had to revise it many times.
Okay.
You wrote an article for Patch.com.
Correct.
North Baltimore Patch.
North Baltimore Patch.
Now, can you break it down?
Wait, are you talking about North Baltimore Patch?
Yeah. North Baltimore Patch.
Wait, what? Just kidding.
Yeah.
That's your character you're working on.
That really is me honestly like
i i developed this like fear i think at some point in my life that people aren't going to know that
i'm kidding yeah because i've had many instances where i where i've tormented myself over did that
person know i was joking right yeah i had that at uh at work today i think um everybody knows
that i just kind of joke around all the time and there's this woman Donna who's really
really nice she sits across from me
she's like man sometimes I feel like we're just
in a Seinfeld episode or something
and I said
yeah absolutely I know what you mean
and a few seconds passed
she's like Josh
what? she's like were you being sarcastic when you
said that or do you really think
that was just my actual
that's a little different that's you being normal and somebody else questioning right but no but it's
it's similar in the way that it's like i don't know it's like do they really know what i'm saying
like they don't know when i'm kidding you know what i mean like do they know like i'm being
completely sincere they're like is he fucking with me right or versus like when you're fucking
with somebody and they think you're completely serious. Yeah.
Again if I could draw
a Venn diagram
I think we're sinking up.
You could draw a Venn diagram
and just refuse to.
We're sinking up
in the middle here.
If I didn't have elephantitis
draw a Venn diagram
call back.
Are you sure
it's only of the testicles?
Yeah.
I think you can get it anywhere.
Like I said
I watch Double Duchess.
Dr. Double Duchess.
I watch the Triple D every day.
If it's a day that ends in Y, I'm watching Triple D.
Double Duchess.
I'm going to have to bring this up to those gentlemen when they show up later.
Yeah, do that.
I will.
Tell them Mike sent you.
Is that the first thing that pops up?
I found a lot of pictures of...
I assume it was one woman's posterior.
It may have been several.
You can't tell the difference between...
They look the same to me.
That's because you're a racist.
All butts look the same to me.
Oh, yeah, but I wrote a column for Patch North Baltimore called
Remington versus business, why?
Question mark.
Go on.
So, Mike, this is the second thing that pops up on Google,
and it's their website.
That is definitely not what I found.
And the group that I did find was not this.
Hmm.
How'd you spell Duchess?
However you texted it to me.
Two S's at the end.
D-U-C-H-E-S-S.
Is that the way you...
No.
Okay.
Looks like it.
Yeah, this is their website.
You want me to tell you the first thing that pops up on Google when I Google them?
Their Facebook.
This is not what was happening.
They must have changed the internet in the last few hours.
In the last few hours, they've rectified all of Google.
Apparently, yes.
None of this showed up.
None of it.
Literally all of their stuff is showing up.
Literally?
Literally.
Tell us a little bit about Double Dutchess Josh.
I was hoping they could do it because I don't know too much.
I know.
All right.
We'll get into it later in the cast.
But I know that they're...
Let's see.
Let's see how these fellas describe themselves.
Actually, Mike, while I do a little research here so we don't have the worst podcast ever.
Oh, God.
Man, that's going to piss me off.
All right.
Tell me more about your article.
I just wrote an article about why it is so difficult to open up a business in Remington, which
is a, I don't
know, a part of
Baltimore.
It's a crappy
part of Baltimore,
I think is the
word you were
looking for.
Yeah.
But it doesn't
need to be.
It's sandwiched
right in between
Hamden and
Charles Village
and Station
North.
Yes.
And yes, I
realize most
sandwiches don't
have three layers,
but club
sandwiches do.
And just nailed you to the floor.
Which is why Wyman Park is separated.
With toothpicks.
Right.
So yeah, I just did a column
on why Remington
still kind of sucks while
all these other areas around are
getting much better.
And the reason seems to be because it's nearly impossible to open a business there, mainly because of one couple.
Now, how is that possible that one couple can prevent businesses from thriving in a part of Baltimore? Well, because these people have power over a neighborhood group.
But mainly because the woman is a paralegal who works for a lawyer.
I mean, I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that she is...
The most powerful people in the world. Paralegals.
But it seems to me that she puts together her own cases and has the lawyer there just to make it official.
And sues everyone that tries to move in just regularly.
Right.
Just over and over.
Yeah, but how does she, how can she afford to do that?
Because she probably doesn't have to pay anything because she puts the cases together herself and has a lawyer there.
Yeah, but why does he do it?
What do you mean?
Like, he has other stuff to do.
Yeah, it's not like...
They clearly do other stuff, too.
Yeah, but I'm saying...
He has other cases where he's getting paid to do lawyerly things.
And then here's this bitch who's upset that a restaurant wants to get a liquor license.
Well, she probably... You know, they probably work it out, like, through what she gets paid. And then here's this bitch who's upset that a restaurant wants to get a liquor license.
They probably work it out through what she gets paid.
She probably works on his cases, too.
I mean, honestly, the core of it is a total mystery to everyone, it seems, as to why she is doing this.
All right.
Do you think she has some dirt on somebody?
I don't know. The reasons behind her suing nearly every business that moves into Remington
are the explanations I've been
given from angry business owners are everything
from she's like crazy
and just likes having this power
to she's getting kickbacks
under the table to stop suing people
to... What?
Yeah. How does that work?
I don't know. I have no evidence for any of this.
You're ruining our community.
Here's some money. Well, no. I think
it would be, will you please stop suing us?
Here's some money under the table.
So she's just going to do it again. It obviously hasn't
prevented her from doing it.
So who cares if she gets sued?
Shouldn't a lot of this stuff get thrown out?
She's not getting sued. She's suing people.
I know, but whoever she's suing, what does she sue?
On what grounds?
Just neighborhood regulations and laws.
Outdoor seating, liquor licenses, hours.
So she sues against them.
She sued the Crestmont Laws for being too tall.
It's a mystery. She sued the Crestmont Laws for being too tall. Still, this is...
It's a mystery.
It's a couple, mainly the woman, who sue everyone who moves into Remington, and no one really knows exactly why.
Why doesn't...
Can somebody sue them?
Surely we can sue them for something.
Several people suggested that in responses to my column.
Yeah.
Again, I have zero...
I could find no evidence that she was and
according to some she's making money by suing the the state repeatedly like or the city when
uh they on technicalities and somehow she gets paid for that because apparently she's
knows more about law than like anyone what um yeah the whole thing's really bizarre so i don't i
really don't know if she's making money from this. Some people are claiming.
That seems impossible for her to be making money.
I know, but I just can't imagine what the motivation is.
Her motivation officially is to preserve the neighborhood's charm,
but the neighborhood kind of sucks.
Yeah, there is no charm. Exactly.
It's a mystery. It's so bizarre.
No one's been able to provide an answer. A lot of people
say it's just insane.
Yeah.
There's a really nice restaurant that opened up
in Remington
and they have this beautiful bar
and went in there
the other day to get food
and the bar is just completely empty.
It looks like they spent a lot of money,
made it look really nice,
and the restaurant's pretty much empty too.
Right.
But it's BYOB, which I guess they got,
but the whole thing is they couldn't have a liquor license
because of this woman.
You said in Hamden?
No, no, no, I'm sorry, in Remington, yeah.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's completely ridiculous.
Like the owner was saying, I might have heard from Mike Colligan, mutual friend of ours,
that like a group of 16 people came in and they're like, oh, let's get a drink and let's
get something to eat.
And then they're like, hey, sorry, we don't serve.
And they went somewhere else.
So it's costing them so much money.
That's exactly what I was talking about in my column.
Probably the same restaurant.
Yeah.
It's right next to Sweet Sin.
Yeah.
What's it called?
It's Meat 27.
Meat 27.
It's essentially the same restaurant as Sweet Sin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Same owners.
Just, you know, they kind of have a double venture going there.
Right.
Sweet Sin is sort of like a bakery, but they also serve gluten-free baked goods as well.
And they have lunch items.
They have some lunch items, but it's smaller.
It's not so much like a restaurant.
And B27 is more of a fine dining.
Yeah.
Sweet Sin is more like a cafe where you can get some good food.
Right.
So this just drives me nuts.
I don't understand how she can get away with all this shit.
You and like half the residents of Remington.
Yeah, there's no charm because no businesses want to be there.
Just because you have a bar doesn't mean...
And it's because of two people.
Yeah, which is insane.
But a bar doesn't necessarily equal debauchery.
Absolutely not.
At a fine dining restaurant?
Yeah.
Absolutely not.
Yeah.
Officially her concern over that was that they will turn it over.
They'll sell the license to a dirtier establishment.
That's what they want to do?
No, that's not what they want to do.
They're claiming that's what could happen.
I understand that's not what they want to do.
I'm saying in her mind.
Right, exactly.
That's all they want to do is spend all this money on a restaurant and then turn it into a strip club right like what that's exactly what they want to do that's
why they built that stage that currently has tables on it and they put poles everywhere
oh my god that's that's insanity yeah yeah so and that has inspired a firestorm on the internet? It has. It has.
It's definitely been my most recognized column thus far.
This is your Leave Britney Alone video.
Yes.
Just kidding.
This is my...
Lots of heat.
Right.
Yeah.
What are some of the comments that have that you've been getting
um the word nut job has been used several times well what do they say about her
i would like to give her a nut job really do they explain what a nut job is no um
yeah the mud slinging started nearly right away a couple people were unhappy with a few things i
said although agreed with me for the most part why would you say um a few people were
not backing me on uh my suggestion that even a walmart would would be nice compared to what's
going on in remington right now um a few people didn't like me backing up Sweet Sin so much.
They claimed that they had unfair business practices or something,
which I have no idea about.
What are their unfair business practices?
I think just not, according to one blogger.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, what did they say?
Just not paying their employees fairly.
But, you know, last time I checked, they weren't forcing people by gunpoint to work there.
Yeah.
Just shackled.
That's all.
That's all.
No biggie.
No biggie.
Well, that sucks, man.
But at least you're taking her head on.
I mean, I haven't seen any pieces.
Aaron Brockovich right here.
Where?
Right here.
Me.
Behind you?
No, I am Remington's Aaron Brockovich right here. Where? Right here. Behind you? No, I am Remington's Aaron Brockovich.
I'm Harvey Dent.
So that's your new thing.
You're no longer the solipsist with the slip disc.
You're Remington's Aaron Brockovich.
That's how you want to be introduced?
Yes.
All right.
I'll go with that.
I'm doing sexual favors.
Is that what Aaron Brockovich did?
I think so.
I didn't see the movie.
You're just making stuff up?
No, I'm pretty sure that's what...
Why?
Why are you pretty sure about that?
Because you don't have to see a movie to get the gist of it all the time.
I've never seen Close Encounters of the Third Time, but I know it's about aliens.
It's Close Encounters of the Third Kind. but I know it's about aliens. It's Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Did I say time?
You said the third time.
For the third time, these encounters are close.
Look, I don't need to see Socked Up to know that Seth Rogen's a bum, okay?
I don't need it.
I don't need to see Naked Lunch to know that it's about the culinary arts.
Yeah. No, Erin Brockovich didn't do that. I don't need to see Naked Lunch to know that it's about the culinary arts. Yeah.
No, Erin Brockovich didn't do that.
I'm pretty sure she did.
Why are you saying that?
Because she's, well, it's based on a real person.
Yes.
And I've read about her a little bit.
I can't really remember anything about what I read.
Right, so you have nothing to base this on.
You just assume that she's just traded sexual favors.
There was definitely something sexual involved. I can't really remember what it was exactly. So that she's just traded sexual favors. There was definitely
something sexual involved.
I can't really remember
what it was exactly.
So now you're just
making stuff up.
No, I'm not.
I think I even remember
in the trailer
for Aaron Brockovich,
Julia Roberts,
as Aaron Brockovich,
says,
I just traded
sexual favors
for something something.
So you have a lot of
what ifs here
and supposedly's.
Look up Aaron Brockovich.
I don't need to to know that her journalistic integrity must be way higher than yours.
She obviously blew a guy to find out the water was bad.
Look, I don't need to see the trailer to know that she was a whore.
Let's look this up right now.
Looking up Erin Brockovich.
Erin Brockovichovich sexual favors.
I feel like half of our podcast is me trying to prove things and Josh telling me that I'm retarded.
I never once said you're retarded.
They came out in 2000.
I thought that was like a 96er.
Okay.
Oh, it looks like a quote.
I just went out and performed sexual favors. I know, Josh, but what about Aaron Brockovich? Oh, it looks like a quote. I just went out and performed sexual favors.
I know, Josh, but what about Aaron Brockovich?
Oh, sorry.
I got to get people to listen to this podcast.
There's some controversy in real life, though,
if she was really as noble as they made her out to be.
What?
A Hollywood movie didn't make somebody, didn't portray them in an to be. What? A Hollywood movie didn't make somebody?
Didn't portray them in an accurate light?
What?
Storyline.
Should we just read the entire storyline?
All right, let's read it together.
Here, no, we'll read it.
I read one word, you read the next.
Okay.
All right, you ready?
Mm-hmm.
All right, go.
Erin.
Brockovich.
Is.
An.
Unemployed.
Single.
Mother.
Desperate.
To.
Find.
A.
Job. But. Is. Having. No. Luck. Brockovich is an unemployed single mother desperate to find a job, but is having no luck.
This losing streak even extends to a failed lawsuit against a doctor and a car accident.
She was in with no alternative.
She successfully browbeats her lawyer.
Whoa, you said two words.
Oh, fuck.
All right, start over.
Her.
Aaron.
No, don't start over.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to delete so much.
Her.
Her.
Her.
Her. Oh. Come on, we didn't even finish.
We're not going to finish. I want to know now.
Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up.
We're going to look for the quotes here.
Okay.
You play...
I'll play...
No, you play Aaron Brockovich.
I'll play Kurt Potter and Ed Mazury.
Okay. Here we are, right here you play Aaron Brockovich. I'll play Kurt Potter and Ed Masry. Okay.
Here we are, right here.
Okay.
All right.
Now, I'm Kurt Potter.
We're reading from the Hollywood movie Aaron Brockovich.
And action.
What?
How'd you do this?
Well, seeing as how I have no brains or legal expertise,
and Ed, he was losing all faith in the system.
Am I right?
Oh, yeah, completely.
Answer the question.
No faith.
No faith.
I just went out there and performed sexual favors.
634 blowjobs in five days.
I'm really quite tired.
I told you.
Okay.
You have proved.
If I would have told you that that was an actual quote from the film, you would have gotten up and walked out of your house and forced me to live here and take care of your girlfriend
i that never spoken to me again that's exactly what i would have done exactly
mike now obviously sharpening the instincts aaron brockovich said that in jest She had a child inside her?
No.
No.
She was kidding.
I don't think so.
You think she actually gave 634 blowjobs in five days?
Well, let's break it down, all right?
Uh-huh.
24 hours in a day.
Sure.
How many blowjobs did she say?
634.
That's like 100 and so a day.
At least.
At least.
24 hours in a day.
Sure.
So now we're at what?
Like five blowjobs an hour?
If she doesn't sleep for that entire time.
She's hooked up to an IV because she's not eating.
Jesus.
630.
Are they just coming to her?
They must be.
Hey, they must be.
She's driving back and forth across this small town.
Gas price.
Well, it wasn't the gas prices in the late 90s.
Okay.
So, all right.
Mike Moran.
Yeah.
You honestly believe Brock.
This would have ate up a lot of the movie too if they filmed her.
Probably would have changed the rating as well.
Oh, most definitely. Well, I guess they might be able to work around it.
All right.
634 blowjobs.
You think it had like a counter, like a montage?
The clock and the calendar.
Wiping the mouth.
Boy, am I tired.
All right.
So, Mike,
are you ready to apologize
to Erin Brockovich?
She is a real person.
Bring her out.
Erin?
Oh,
I'm getting some blowjobs.
This podcast is at a new
low. It's me,
Aaron Brockovich. Did you need me?
I got a lot of blowjobs
I guess. Mike, would you
like to say something, Aaron? Yes, Mike.
Please.
Aaron, I just want to say
Speak up.
Can you speak up for her her I think you deserved better than to be
portrayed by that hooker from pretty woman
okay well you're not
going to apologize for insinuating
that the only way I got stuff
done was by blowing people
of a line
that I obviously
said in a facetious manner.
That's your best female impression, Josh.
You sound like you're reading his children.
Do not.
Aaron Brockovich is standing right there.
Yeah, I might be very rude to Josh.
Yeah.
Now I owe two apologies.
Let's hear them, buddy.
They're stacking up.
Alright. Aaron?
I'm sorry that I said
you gave 365 blowjobs
in five days.
It was 634.
I'm sorry. I meant in two and a half days.
I guess that's pretty half-assed,
but I know I've seen your comedy,
so most things are half-assed.
It's okay.
Wow.
Ooh.
And now mine?
Yeah.
Apologize.
What did I do to you again?
Now you owe me two, because now you don't even remember.
I, uh...
Yeah?
What did I do?
Wow.
Wow.
Hmm.
Oh, boy.
All right.
Let's wrap this thing up.
All right.
Let's wrap this thing up.
Should we...
Let's record me talking to the double duchess.
Okay.
This will just be you saying just generic yes and no's.
Agreeing.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay. Go right. Okay.
Go ahead.
So what inspired you to do the Double Dutchess Project?
Who are your influences?
You have a big butt.
Look, you'll be there, Josh.
That one's going in, too.
All right.
What am I going to say?
I don't think I want to make it to the grocery store.
And you'll be like, look, you'll be there, Josh.
Good point, Josh.
That's humorous.
Oh, wow.
That must have been difficult.
Really?
So I guess it all worked out in the end then, huh?
Two and a half times on the same space shuttle.
Who would have thought?
Theory of big numbers.
We were just talking about that What a coincidence
We were just discussing coincidences
Welcome back to the Aaron Brockovich
What did I say?
We were discussing her car
This is 2004
Aaron Brockovich
She drives a 98 Ford Taurus for and Rakovic. She's trying to
98 Ford Taurus.
All right.
So contrary to
popular belief,
contrary to Mike
Moran's belief,
Double Dutch is not
a bunch of lady butts.
There are two
gentlemen that make
an electro.
I believe I'm not
saying that you don't
know what you're
talking about, but the Internet has a differing opinion.
All I know is when you leave.
Just don't be shocked when they show up.
I just have two lady butts sitting in these chairs.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Oh, dearie.
Oh, dearie.
All right, well, without further ado, let's get to the interview.
All right, have a good interview, Josh.
With Double Duchess. And I will see you in the future. further ado let's get to the interview all right have a good interview josh with double duchess
and i will see you in the future future everybody better robot records.com
i love you oh yeah I love that East Coast heat.
Oh, that humidity? It's Coast heat, huh?
Oh, that humidity?
It's pretty good, right?
It's good.
You guys don't like air conditioning, right?
You hate it.
It's terrible.
Okay, good.
You came to the right place.
This is great.
Excellent. This is a kismet.
It's terrible.
Right.
Remind me of my friend Dez.
Dez?
Like, I know.
I should have just told you that he's like Dez.
You're a bit like Dez.
Oh.
I think Dez is a bit like me.
All right?
Yeah.
Good point, Josh.
Okay.
All right.
There you go.
All right.
Invite you into my home.
Just pretend like we're talking.
Unbelievable.
Since we have some history, you know, he can just pretend like he's talking to des
i mean if that makes you more comfortable all right all right it is sorry well mike and i
recorded an intro but if you guys could introduce yourselves to uh to our dozens of listeners Fierce This is fierce This is fierce What's that?
Dozens is in plural
Oh yeah
Well sometimes
We'll see
Sometimes it's 12
Sometimes it's
You gotta pull that microphone to your face
There you go
Yeah you can stretch it over
Is that good?
I don't know
Yeah that's good
It's fierce
Can you hear it?
So this is fierce So this is fierce.
So this is fierce.
Good times.
Yeah.
It's fierce.
Why do I keep saying that?
So I'm Devo.
Oh, hey, Devo.
Hey.
Hey.
And who'd you bring with you?
This is Krylon.
Hey, Krylon.
Hi, I'm Krylon.
Hey.
How's it going?
I'm good.
I'm really nervous. Why? I just Krylon. Hey, how's it going? I'm good. I'm really nervous.
Why?
Because it's weird.
Really?
Just randomly.
I've seen your guys' videos.
You perform with like two inches worth of cloth and like bounce around on stage, but you're
nervous now?
Yeah, when people can see me.
That's better?
It's better.
All right.
Is that weird?
A little bit. Okay. That's not that weird's better. All right. Is that weird? A little bit.
Okay.
That's not that weird.
I don't know.
I think just once you put a microphone in somebody's face, it gets like, I don't know.
You get nervous about the things you say, that's all.
I do.
I do.
Yeah, well, like I said, dozens of people are judging you now.
Dozens.
Dozens.
And dozens.
Yeah, well, I'm Krylon.
Oh, hey.
You're like, all right. All right. Well, well, I'm Krylon. Oh, hey. You're like, all right.
All right, well, thank you guys for coming over.
Dave, he played in the band Geppetto that I went and saw when I was in high school.
You guys were the shit for my group of friends and many other people in the Maryland area.
But, yeah, I remember seeing you guys at Paisano's.
I was like, yeah,
9th grade. I think I was like 14.
Paisanos was a pizza place that
a bunch of local bands used to play.
I remember seeing Grand Buffet there for the first time.
Yes, Grand Buffet. You know today's Grunge's
birthday, by the way. Yeah, I saw that on
Facebook. I need to get those guys on the
podcast. I think Lord Grunge
is doing stand-up now or something similar.
He does stuff with the Wham City guys, I think. think he's doing something i don't know what he's doing but yeah
are they getting back together or are they kind of doing like separate i don't know i can't really
speak on that okay what i understand i think they're going separate ways but i don't know
okay last time i talked to jackson he wanted to do more theater really well theater-ish
performances whether that means
performance art or theater or right overly theatrical music stuff he doesn't seem like
an over theatrical guy that jackson that's weird tame yeah pretty tame gal yeah but uh
but yeah i saw you go through many incarnations so So Geppetto broke up. You guys recorded Inksbox.
You couldn't make Chiba 2.
You said, fuck it.
It's over.
It's over.
Move on to Victory Party.
Yeah, we just started doing more drugs.
That's why we couldn't do Chiba 2.
Yeah, just like the Beatles.
It's a little PC to talk about other things.
We can't talk about that.
So, no.
You guys went to Indiaia we went to india started smoking a lot of opium no um i don't know then we started victory parker's
i started a victory party which i started playing more drums yeah um i don't know i wasn't i wasn't
out with geppetto but i was kind of well, I'm kind of a faggot.
Geppetto's not for me.
No, it was just, we all outgrew it, I think.
But it was a launching pad for all of us.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, you guys were all like high school friends, right?
So kind of just started a band.
Yeah.
And then it just went its natural course, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I started playing drums and such. And then it just went its natural course, I guess. Yeah, yeah. And then I started playing drums and such.
And then what happened?
I started learning how to do production work.
And then I moved to San Francisco.
And I started DJing slash doing more production stuff.
And then I met this queen over here.
Okay, you don't have to call me a queen.
I'm talking about this.
Oh, okay.
You don't have to call me a queen.
That's humorous. and so when was that when how long have you guys been uh making the musics um at like three years
like off and on three years but like actively like really pursuing this about a year and a half
yeah and you guys have uh your first ep on iTunes. It's Hey Girl?
That's what it's called.
It's called Hey Girl, the exclamation point.
Sorry, it's Hey Girl.
It's Hey Girl.
Yeah, it came out in March.
Getting that iTunes money.
Working on getting that iTunes money.
We just had a video for the second single.
Getting that video money.
That video money.
If there's money in the video, it'd be cool.
But not. Money, money. Yeah, some kind of that video money. That video money. If there's money in the video, it'd be cool. But not.
Money, money.
Yeah.
Some kind of money, money.
Uh-huh.
That's going to come out June 15th.
Cool.
Via the web or wherever else.
The internets.
Check that out.
Uh-huh.
So just look on the internets for it?
Yeah.
Just type in video.
Type in internet.
We're like, hey, don't touch this internet video where
you at lots of big booty videos definitely absolutely my friend my friend that you may
know casey heen described it as a trippy in living color video themed i could see that, actually. That makes sense. Very bright. Very bright color. Sure. Sure.
Awesome, man.
So when you moved to San Francisco, why San Francisco?
Why San Francisco?
I think I was ready for something drastically different, and I wanted to kind of get far
away from East Coast culture scene and just check out something different.
Right.
Because I guess, did you grow up in Maryland? I did. i grew up in maryland and baltimore and annapolis primarily
annapolis right yeah and then i just kind of was like i mean we toured a lot up and down the east
coast so i kind of yeah with it and i wanted something that i didn't know because chris and
i moved out there to tour with victory party and yeah that didn't really happen yeah what happened
there it's just chris was always on the road.
Yeah, Chris was out just making a lot of money and meeting a lot of people and working with other bands.
And I think I was there in a city I didn't know anybody.
So I started doing a lot of DJ work and sampling stuff.
Yeah, I just think eventually I kind of grew into San Francisco as a home base.
Are there any gay people in San Francisco? A couple. that's good you found them couple i did good for you
you know good for you announced to me you know but seriously i didn't know i mean i knew that
san francisco was gay i know but i think i like subconsciously i was not really moving there for
that reason i think it was because um it was like the city and it still feels to me
like the city
that feels the most
like an East Coast city
on the West Coast.
It's compact, I guess.
What's the difference?
Because I haven't traveled at all.
I've only been on a plane once.
Really?
That was for work.
And they were like,
they had a bunch of extra money
to spend for training.
And they're like,
well, we have this trip
to St. Louis
if you want to go i'm like
yeah it's fuck yeah so they paid for my first uh plane ride so that's what i was all excited about
i was like i get to get on so i guess it all worked out how old are you've never been on a
plane like no like what's wrong like nothing's wrong i just all my family was close so that was
my first trip had a nice layover in O'Hare, Chicago.
Oh, yeah, I've been there.
And that's, I think, where Puff Daddy did, where he's on, like, the, what is that, like, moving walkway thing.
And he was in the Stories B.I.G. video where they sample.
I'm coming.
Right?
No, not that one.
It's the one where they sampled the police song
and like yeah i think it's i think yeah that one that just came on the radio the other day
you were in the car weren't we no no okay okay nice to make that up
drama on the podcast here. Drama. I'm just lying already, girl.
Yeah, so O'Hare, great airport.
You guys should check it out sometime.
Lots of layovers.
I'm a jet setter.
Went to St. Louis.
You know what they call Panera Bread in St. Louis?
What?
St. Louis bread.
Did they give you peanuts at least?
What's that?
Did they give you peanuts?
Peanuts?
No, I didn't get any of those.
I got a complimentary soda.
Would you like some peanuts now?
No, I will have some later though.
Thank you.
I don't think it's good to chew into the mic on the podcast.
Oh my God.
Did you hear me doing that earlier?
Yeah.
Oh, great.
And dozens of people did.
You know what they did?
Judged you.
Immediately.
Thank God.
No, not in a good way.
Oh, that's perfect. Cannot win win with this guy playing right into his hand how do you deal with this son of a gun i do um i don't know
just feed him peanuts but it's cool yeah well it's funny that we we eat vegan all the time
i eat vegan all the time we go on tour because Carlin's a vegan. Which is interesting because we definitely eat a lot of whole foods.
That has to be so expensive, right?
It can be.
Can be?
I work for Whole Foods.
There you go.
Oh, ding, ding, ding.
A.K.A. I steal from Whole Foods a lot.
Oh, thanks for that.
I borrow.
I'm not judging.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I'm not judging.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
If you're a vegan vegan work at a grocery
store especially a nice one yeah it helps out so yeah in in dire times or short amount of a lot of
short a lot of times does that maybe make sense we google whole foods and then we go to whole foods
and then we go down the road okay easy breezy right yeah as a vegetarian i'm hungry all the time so i think
if i was a vegan i'd be just eating constantly are you are you always hungry tough question this
was this podcast you didn't know you're walking into this i didn't this is yeah this is tough i
mean i eat fish and stuff right so i imagine what you're not really hungry all the time um
you know it's really weird. My palate has changed.
Yeah?
So it's just peanuts and Oreos all the time.
Well, it's a lot of salads and things like that.
A lot of tofu and stuff like that.
Right on.
But I'm not hungry a lot.
No?
You know, eating is so boring.
It's just the same old thing.
I love food swallow really
repetitive but if you make different things if it's good food it's good food that's yeah
exactly i'm learning how to get my okay i don't want to get deep on a podcast get deep
break it down go there break it down well i lived in berlin for a really long time
and okay my my eating habits changed
there oh okay i kind of brought a lot of like that european type eating habits into they don't
eat a lot in europe they eat when they not like when they feel like it right an actual like sit
down yeah for breakfast and sit down for lunch right so it's not just eating all the time like
in america yeah it's like on the go food sure Like in America It's like on-the-go food
Sure, yeah, we have to have like yogurt
And little Go-Gurt pouches and stuff like that
Have you heard of that?
It's one of the weirdest, it's called Go-Gurt
So you can have yogurt on the go
Because that's what we all want, right?
Isn't that one of the weirdest things?
It's kind of like those Flavorice popsicles
It's one of the weirdest things
It's really gross.
I'm vegan, so I wouldn't know.
That's right.
I just don't even pay attention.
That's right.
We don't have a TV either,
so there's that.
There goes our Go-Gurt sponsorship.
I told you, we've got to stick to Oreos.
Oreos has got some money.
Who's this fellow walking in here?
This is Steve.
Hey, Steve.
How's it going?
Good.
How are you?
Steve is a DJ and a promoter in Baltimore.
Oh, okay.
And we are playing Golden West via Steven's help.
Ah.
Yes.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Yeah. Golden West
Did I just say that?
Where are you playing?
The Golden West tonight
The what?
Oh my god yeah
Tonight?
Golden Wheezy
Get the hell out of here
Get the hell out of here
So quick too
I mean it's tonight already
Really
Yeah
But where is it?
The Golden West
Oh my
Golden Wheezy
Yeah in Hamden right here
Yeah
Live
Yeah exactly I don't know where it is We're in Baltimore The Golden West? Oh, my. Yeah, in Hamden, right? Yeah. Live. Yeah, exactly.
I don't know where he is.
We're in Baltimore.
Oh, yeah.
Is this your first time in Baltimore?
This is my second time in Baltimore.
Would you like to share your first story of when you were in Baltimore?
Oh.
What?
Being chased down the street.
Because I wasn't chased.
I thought I was being chased. Yeah. Why? I don't I wasn't chased I thought I was being chased yeah I just why I
don't know I I was um what was I doing in Baltimore I don't even know what I was doing
in Baltimore oh I was doing this sex workers art show but it wasn't it was in Baltimore yeah so I
was doing the sex workers art show okay and I can't remember where it was because i don't know where i'm at and um and it was downtown i do know that and i was going to the bank and i thought people
were chasing me just because they were lining up behind you at the atm with guns right well
that's just baltimore your effing money they said Well, they didn't say that so much. They actually telepathically communicated that to me.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I hope no one...
It sucks having powers.
Sure.
You have them too, I can tell.
See that?
I just answered the question.
I know.
Am I scratching your nose?
That's how I do it.
That's where my powers are.
I actually grow the nostrils out so I can speak different languages. Nice. Because, you know. That's how I do it. That's where my powers are. I actually grow the nostrils out so I can speak different languages.
That's gross.
It's good to be multicultural.
Okay.
Hey, just keep that between you and me.
That's all.
You don't have to say that into the mic.
All right.
Well, yeah.
What are you guys doing on the East Coast?
Did you come out to play shows?
We did.
Yeah, we booked.
This is our first tour.
We've done some stuff on the Pacific Northwest.
And then, yeah.
And then so we've kind of made a name for ourselves in San Francisco a little bit.
Right, right.
So, yeah, this is our first run on the East Coast.
We did Brooklyn.
And now we – go ahead.
I don't want to see it in the way. No... You can eat it.
Just eat away for the mic.
There you go.
Judging, judging, judging, judging
with every bite.
Unbelievable.
What did we do?
The first half of the tour we kind of had some time off
so it was nice. We did Brooklyn and then we hung out
in New York for a day.
You just did Philly, right? We just did philly right just philly last night baltimore tonight driving to
atlanta tomorrow headlining a big huge queer festival called mondo homo in atlanta mondo homo
and then flying up to or driving back up to dc to do cobalt on saturday night okay and then sunday night is
annapolis metropolitan nice yes that's a bunch of shows yeah that's pretty good what do you guys
what do you guys tour with do you have a lot of like equipment that you have to bring costumes
just that's it so you went from bringing around like congas to costumes tons of drumming equipment
and it was the most liberating thing i've ever done
glitter too yeah oh yeah big glitter budget we do have a glitter budget yeah we like confetti
party city is amazing we get runs by party city save a lot of money we need to get sponsored by
party city and whole foods uh yeah do you know what i mean and oreos if it doesn't work out
i'm really not into being sponsored by Oreos.
Why not?
We'd have to eat a lot of them.
Yeah.
I only eat them when I'm desperate and I'm feeling a little nervous.
So Oreos are the go-to?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, maybe you can work that angle.
Like whenever I'm nervous, Oreo.
Oh, nice.
I don't know where it goes from there, but I don't know.
Maybe do something really cool afterwards. Like, nice. I don't know where it goes from there, but I don't know. Maybe do something really cool afterwards, like a podcast.
Have you only really only been in a plane once?
Well, I mean, technically it was like four times because I had to lay over.
Good point, Josh.
I had to lay over on the way back.
Wow.
So four plane rides.
I don't want to brag.
You have such plane energy.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm a jet setter.
Like I said, do you guys know what Panera is called in st. Louis?
St. Louis bread yeah
Yeah
Yeah, it was a plane ride was good. Yeah
Frontier frontier, I think it's slash Midwest is what it's called. I think it's on frontier mm-hmm slash Midwest when I fly
I only do Delta.
Yeah, well, if you do, and you should, because they have a pleasant surprise halfway through the plane ride.
Uh-oh.
What is it?
Come on, spoil it.
I don't know what to tell you.
I don't want to spoil it for you.
Come on.
Because you can probably fly Frontier to Midwest because it's very Midwest.
All right, so they give you, like, warm chocolate chip cookies.
Really?
Like, warm.
Do they make it a surprise?
They make them, bitches, and they bring them out it's fierce except i'm vegan yeah so extra cookies for you i get two cookies
that's an even bigger surprise and then if you flow with eric eric is not here eric has been
tour managing slash djing slash hanging out with us for this run going making whole foods runs
vegan too he's been vegan for like 23 years oh Oh, shit. So he's like a vegan wizard.
I would definitely get
his cookie, too.
Yeah.
That would be awesome.
Right.
Three cookies, score.
That's why you're going
to the gym.
You're eating all these
goddamn cookies all the time.
You're right.
Exactly right.
I don't maintain that figure.
Zane is gay.
Oh, wait.
You're gay?
A little bit.
Isn't that weird?
A little bit.
When he told me that
I almost quit the band,
I was like, girl, why are you gay?
Yeah.
My mind is blown.
How did you get there?
What's that?
What?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Sorry.
Ladies, don't fight here.
I know.
It's not on the podcast.
Yeah.
Not on the podcast.
Hey, I'm not a lady.
I'm a woman.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I'm a woman.
Sorry.
Being in a gay band is really fun except
i'm not gay oh yeah don't doubt me on a podcast man everybody is shocked now oh my god oh my god
any ladies out there want to get their hair done. Get your hair and your nails done, girl. Hit me up.
Wow.
All right.
Yeah.
I think you'll get some responses.
Maybe.
We'll see.
Hopefully.
Yeah, I remember when you came out,
everybody was like, Dave's gay.
I was like, oh, good for him.
Good for him.
Yeah.
I did hear most people thought, you know, Chris.
I think most people thought it was Chris.
I actually heard people tell me that, like, oh, well, y'all thought it was Chris.
Right, yeah.
A lot of people did say that.
They were like, somebody in Geppetto is gay.
It's like, ah, Chris, that son of a bitch.
Good for him.
Lead singer.
Right.
Energy.
Yeah.
No, but, yeah, I remember just being really happy for it.
It's like, that's great.
And you look like you had, like a weight lifted off your shoulders.
And I'm just like, yeah.
I did.
I did.
Yeah.
I don't really know if I came out when Geppetto was still existing, though.
I think it was in some stage.
Yeah.
But I don't think it was in the Inksbox days.
I don't.
I think it was after that came out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did all the CDs say Inksbox, by the way?
With the misprint?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so. I think so i think so yeah the
album was ink box and then it was inks box what was inks box yeah inx it's about 2 000 misprints
what are you gonna do a collector's item right yeah exactly yeah we let we ditched our manager
by that time so we really had no one else to blame but ourselves you had a manager yeah how'd that go
it was okay.
What'd he do?
Just get you shows and stuff?
Got us shows, yeah.
Okay.
Kind of built the energy.
He sort of, you know, I don't really know what Adam did.
And you could ask all of us.
We all really don't know what he did at all, actually.
Besides take a cut of your money?
Yeah.
As soon as we realized that we could get somebody else.
Right.
Oh, man, maybe we should do that.
That he's not the only manager.
Right.
And then a year went by and we're like, oh, what about that idea?
Get somebody else.
Oh, yeah, cool.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But no, that was a great album when Inks Box came out.
It was a seminal album for a young Josh Koderna.
Nice.
Yeah, absolutely, man.
It's a very very it's definitely
like one of the better records that i've ever put out like just as far as like it's because it was
very like the fact of it being very like emotionally draining because like that record to me was like
a lot of the stuff i was writing about was about how i couldn't be out so it was sort of like
i was writing about like being into other people when i felt like i
couldn't or shouldn't or whatever you know i think i right did a good job at masking that a little
bit um but at the same time like once i was out i was kind of like all right what i'm going to
talk about now it was like definitely fueled the the writing fire for me. Right. A little bit. Right, right, right. Okay.
So now we just write about being really gay.
Or I do.
Oh, really?
Krylon writes about doing women's hairs and nails.
Which isn't gay.
Not at all.
Not a gay thing to do.
Not a gay thing at all.
Oh, you're talking about me?
No.
No, no, no.
A different Krylon.
Or your gal.
Yeah, well, that's all I got.
I mean, thanks for coming over, you guys.
Anything you want to talk about?
Wow.
What do you want to talk about?
I don't know.
I just heard your life story.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Things I never heard about him.
Really?
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah, a lot of my work right now it's i'm almost done school
which has been gonna be amazing when you stop answering text messages during our podcast josh
because i thought you were listening to me that's great dave anyway good game you know what good for
you man my girlfriend comes back with her dog soon no um i'm sorry i didn't mean to be rude i'm totally
kidding um i don't know it's like it to me it's become like a bit like with this project i think
it's really important to sort of like create safe spaces for queer youth and to it not being about
like i mean we kind of double dutch this is what we do i think we promote a lot of like really fun
energy and not yeah super like you know uber raunchy or uber right it just
seems like sort of like a party is what you shows want to be kind of like over the top
yeah exactly like really into just like good music and high fashion and shit like that and
it's it's nice to do that um and kind of create that energy for for like younger folks because
i think for me growing up in a place like in annapolis i felt super silenced and kind of like
alone so it's like I had. Yeah.
For me, I was like I either had to abandon ship where I was and even in the project to kind of be out.
Yeah.
I chose not to for a while.
Well, that sucks, man.
Yeah.
And then you moved to San Francisco.
You found the only other gay guy.
The only.
I mean, I'm sorry.
Other hairdresser.
There you go.
Me and the hairdresser.
I'll come out.
Oh, my God.
Man, this podcast got to get so many downloads. Exclusive. Cry a lot out on the podcast. Oh, my God. Man, this podcast has got to get so many downloads.
Exclusive.
Cry a lot comes out.
Exclusive.
It's pretty tough.
Yeah.
There's so much more material to write now.
We both are gay.
Right.
Do you know what I mean?
I already have a couple of journals that we can add to the pod.
Whoa.
Girl.
Oh, snap.
Let's do a follow-up.
It's time we're in town.
Keep rolling.
Are you a Leo? What's Keep rolling Are you a Leo?
What's that?
Are you a Leo?
Mm-mm You look like a Leo or a Sagittarius
Getting closer
Closer? Scorpio?
Mm-mm
Rolls his eyes
Scorpios aren't supposed to be funny
But you're hilarious
Oh thank you
Scorpios aren't supposed to be funny?
I don't know You said it was such a conviction you're like i don't fucking know i don't know yeah this
one does know a lot about the signage signages i don't know anything what's dave dave's aries
he's a fire sign water sign i know that fire that. Fire sign. Look at that. He does a lot. I know that stuff.
My girlfriend's an Aries.
Oh, nice.
I'm a fire sign?
You didn't know that about yourself?
I didn't.
So I find it interesting when people are like, oh, I'm a water sign.
I want to live by water.
Where am I supposed to live?
Am I supposed to live someplace that's hot?
Yeah.
Is that what I mean?
That's why you're here in this humid office.
It's true.
Yeah.
It brought me here.
Yeah, it was destiny that brought you here.
It's your horoscope. I'm like this hot-ass office. Yay. I need some heat. Yeah. It brought me here. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, it was destiny that brought you here. It's your horoscope.
I'm like this hot-ass office.
Yay.
I need some heat.
Yes, exactly.
Maybe I am destined to live in New Orleans.
New Orleans.
New Orleans.
New Orleans.
What are you?
I'm a Libra.
Libra.
So that's an air sign.
Air.
Well, we're doing pretty good.
Steve, what are you?
I'm a Cancer.
Ah, that's also a water.
Also a water, right, Krylon?
Cancer, yeah.
It's supposed to be the unspoken zodiac astrological sign of Earth.
Unspoken?
Yeah.
That's why you've been a little quiet.
That's why he's so far from the mic.
Most signs have planets that connect to them.
Yeah, I have Mars and Pluto, but not anymore.
Thanks, scientists.
Bummer.
And Obama.
Sure, he's to blame.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah.
Something cool had to happen when he was...
Yeah, what do you think about him, like, slowly be like, I support gay marriage.
Like, to to me it seemed
very calculated like he had other people in his staff kind of the week before kind of gauge
what people were going to do and they're just like yeah we support it what do you guys think
well it's a card that really hasn't been played before yeah yeah so even if it is calculated, it's still a card. So just in that whole realm of political vomiting,
I think that I support him.
You know what I mean?
I totally support him.
I mean, it took him a while to pull that card out of his butt,
but eventually he did. Well, at least he pulled it out of his butt it was kind of a sign of solidarity i guess
yeah i think if anything it's any movement towards that direction obviously is is good
yeah and i think any nothing in politics is non-calculated do you know what i mean that's
a good point yeah that's why i don't really love politics at all. Because I don't really think they really actually deal with the real things that are going on.
No.
Grandstanding.
It's a sign of hope that's really not real.
Yeah.
God, I just took it down.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's talk more about horoscopes.
Yeah.
But I think it's cute.
I think it's cute.
I mean, if he doesn't win, he's the first to sort of fully back it, which that's kind of cool.
Yeah.
Yeah. I would like to see him get another term if he doesn't win, he's the first to sort of fully back it, which that's kind of cool. Yeah, yeah.
I would like to see him get another term, and hopefully he can have a little more balls in his second term.
Mostly, I just want the Supreme Court justice.
I think most of those guys are getting pretty old, so it would be nice to have him on watch when he appoints those people,
especially with all the crazy stuff that's moving along to the Supreme Court.
True story.
Like corporations are people and stuff,
which is pretty fucking nuts.
It's ridiculous is what it is.
Yeah.
It's totally ridiculous.
Absolutely.
Do you speak any other languages?
No.
Why?
I just wanted to know.
That's one of my favorite questions to ask Americans.
Oh.
Are you American?
I am.
I was born in San Diego.
But raised all over the... Okay, yeah. You said you spent time in Germany?
I was in Germany for eight years.
Do you speak German? I do speak German.
Alright, say I love Go-Gurt in German.
Ich liebe Go-Gurt.
Yes. That'll be the ad that we run
all the time.
So we got soundcheck soon, yeah?
What time is it? I'm just kind of hungry, you know what I'm saying? We run all the time. So we got soundcheck soon, yeah?
And I'm just kind of hungry, you know what I'm saying?
You want some Oreos and peanuts?
I know, I know.
You want me to put peanuts in the Oreo?
I think he wants to drop the Oreos and just have the penis.
I meant peanuts, excuse me.
Good one.
That's been a joke of the week.
With all this gay innuendo, I would have thought you guys were gay.
This is weird.
Nope.
Just a hairdresser.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And that's not weird anymore.
It's extraordinary.
Just in general?
Yeah. It's just extraordinary.
Yeah, we've got to drop the word weird out of the vocabulary.
It ostracizes people who are a little bit off into a specific group like Island and Misfit Toys.
So I try to say extraordinary as much as I can.
Okay.
Do you know what I mean?
It's a little bit above ordinary.
Yeah, it doesn't have the negative connotation.
Yeah, I've been hanging out in Portland a lot.
I feel like I'm in Portland.
I just want to say that.
Portland is so PC.
Is that really how it is?
Yeah, it's terrible.
Is Portlandia basically a documentary?
It could be.
It totally is. But San Francisco is not that much different. Really? is it's like it's terrible it's portlandia basically a documentary it could be yeah totally
but san francisco is not that much different really yeah yeah there was a i don't really
want to get into that hey break it down break down san francisco or whatever you were about
to say there was a big old argument about this party that wanted to have cinco de mayo
because their party fell on Cinco de Mayo.
And they're like, oh, we don't want to call it Cinco de Mayo
because we don't want a bunch of like, you know.
Filthy Mexicans.
Wow, Josh.
Oh, sorry.
I was just finishing your sentence.
We don't want a bunch of cultural appropriation is what I was saying.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
You say cultural appropriation.
I was like, tomato
racism. So they were going to
call it pico de gallo to be fun.
Yeah, I get it. And it got
slammed by so many
people because they thought it was
insensitive.
It was hard French.
And little do they know that half of the people that throw
hard French are brown people themselves. And little do they know that half of the people that throw hard French are brown people themselves.
I was a little retarded.
I mean, gosh, you can't say retarded either.
It's a little extraordinary.
Yeah.
You look like you felt good saying that.
Yeah, I did.
I was just trying that on for the first time.
Hey, it fits great.
You look very comfortable saying it.
Extraordinary. Extraordinary.
Extraordinary.
Is it anywhere like that?
And here in, where are we again?
Baltimore.
Baltimore.
Baltimore.
You know, we've been everywhere.
Oh, yeah?
We were just in Philly.
It was my first time there.
And, you know, I'm from the West Coast, and I lived in Germany.
So I have no idea where I'm at half the time, you know i'm from the west coast and i lived in germany so i have no idea where
i'm at half the time you know yeah i guess baltimore kind of looks like philly a little
bit too well i think it was more about um the the general energy of baltimore okay like kind of gave
me a a little bit of a philly energy. You know what I mean?
But who knows what I'm talking about?
You know what I mean?
I'm trying to follow.
I'm trying.
You're only about like an hour away too.
I feel like if you're going to the West Coast,
it's like at least like halfway through the trip,
you're like in the car for four hours.
You're like, where are we going again?
It's like you remember by the time you get there.
Yeah, yeah.
You're in a Philly.
You're like, oh, we're here.
All of a sudden you're like, stop to get a Slurpee and you're like oh we're in philly already
free slurpees today really 7-eleven's giving them away free slurpees yeah
cancer's love slurpees it was so hot is that what the deal was
no i'm not sure i think it's like a
rita's deal or they give away free rita's at like the beginning i don't i saw a bunch of ads on
words with friends today about free slurpees and then somebody else give away on 420 you know
slurpees i don't know how 7-elevens in germ Germany work There is no 7-Elevens in Germany
However, there are in Scandinavia
What?
What are they called?
7-Elevens
Alright
Scandinavian
That should be your next
My next voyage
Yeah, your next
I'm going to start a travel log
You're like, I went to St. Louis and it was cool
Yeah
And now you went to Scandinavia to 7-Elevens
Yeah, like where's their arch?
You could be like, what do Scandinavians
call Slurpees?
I'm going to find out.
That sounds gross.
Doesn't it?
This has been real.
It's been extraordinary, guys.
It's been extraordinary.
I love how you incorporated that into your...
Thank you. Thank you very much. Anytime.
Thank you. And I love that you've
been doing that with your nose all...
Actually, I just, I think I have, like,
the world's fastest growing nose hairs
and they always are itching me.
And I communicate telepathically all the time, so
it's, like, it's good.
I know how that feels. Yeah.
I have the world's fastest growing...
That's all the time we have.
No, finish.
It's so funny.
I hate how Scorpios can read to me like that.
I was with a Scorpio for five and a half years.
Yeah.
And he, I mean, she.
Whoa.
It's a good thing I can edit this in post.
Holy shit. You guys are going to lose can edit this in post. Holy shit.
You guys are going to lose all your fans when they find this out.
They're really gay.
What?
It's not an act.
The guy's covered in glitter again.
In the booty shorts with the high pumps.
Well, at least I'm in pumps.
I don't wear pumps.
I'm like really buff and I'm in pumps.
And that's called a butch queen up in pumps.
A butch queen up in pumps.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is that what it's really called?
That's exactly what it's called.
What are they called, butch queen up in pumps in Scandinavia?
Extraordinary.
Oh.
Yeah, click on the draw.
Where's the applause button for that one?
That was like an applause
you did like the horror sound
like
more like
what was that
is it Friday the 13th
yeah
I think it's like
in every horror movie
alright well
you guys have been
generous with your time
thanks for coming by
yay
see you Josh
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Okay.
I kind of forgot to get rid of that one.
And it's D-U-C-H-E-S-S.
D-U-C-H-E-S-S because some people will do D-U-T-C-H-E-S-S.
So if you see a lot of bitches jumping rope, that's not us.
That's not us.
I was a bit surprised when you guys didn't show up with jump ropes.
So.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I'm glad that's covered.
Yeah.
All right.
So.
They're not really gay and they don't jump rope.
Right.
Yeah.
And Go-Gurt.
Out.
No.
I think we wrapped it up.
Oreos, no good. Right. And go good. Out. No. I think we wrapped it up. Oreos, no good.
Nine.
English, please.
Wait, you want nine Oreos?
No, no.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ doesn't eat Oreos.
In my Bible, he does.
It was sponsored by Oreos.
Nabisco.
He turned.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ding.
Okay.
No Illuminati jokes, people.
Well, now you're going to limit most of our.
Great.
All right.
Next time.
Well, yeah.
Thanks, Dave.
It was good seeing you too, man.
Steve, nice meeting you.
Next time, don't talk so much.
Krylon.
Oh, you remembered my name.
Nice meeting you.
I was worried that I was going to say it wrong.
Is it Krylon? Is that how you say it? Is that your actual name? It's remembered my name. Nice meeting you. I was worried that I was going to say it wrong. Is it Krylon?
Is that how you say it?
Is that your actual name?
It's my rebirth name.
Okay.
So that's a no.
Well, it's my rebirth name.
Rebirth?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's a rebirth.
When's your rebirth day?
Consciousness into a new conscious.
Ah.
December 24th.
Oh.
Before Jesus came to the earth and gave everyone Oreos.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
That's what I'm making.
That's why he doesn't like Oreos.
Who?
That's why he doesn't like Oreos.
Oh, too close.
That's why I don't like Jesus.
He's been stealing my Oreos since the dawn of time.
Really?
Oh, bitch.
I can't stand that anymore.
The guy has everything and he just wants more.
That Jesus Christ.
All right. Well, Dave, Steve, Kylan, thank you for joining me. Thanks, Josh. Thanks, Josh. All right. that or the guy has everything and he just wants more that jesus christ all right well dave steve
kyle thank you for joining me thanks josh all right so i guess it all worked out in the end two and a half times on the same space shuttle who would have thought