The Digression Sessions - Ep. 43 - Double Duchess!

Episode Date: July 16, 2012

“A Little Extraordinary!” Hola Digheads! This ep was recorded a little while ago, but Josh’s external hard drive crashed and its contents were finally recovered! Mike and Josh recorded a ramblin...g intro for about 40 minutes and then Josh interviewed the campy, extraordinary, uber-gay, electro-hop duo – Double Duchess. And, contrary to popular belief they’re not one woman with a huge butt! After 12 years of living in New York, Berlin, Montreal, and Paris, the international Krylon Superstar moved back to his native state of California and in 2008 and met Baltimore/Annapolis based musician and producer d.a.v.O (Dave) in San Francisco. They soon formed Double Duchess. Their sound can be described as a dancey, campy, and hip-hoppy, which transcends genres and genders through a live and interactive theatrical experience. “These high-energy, playful, fun, divas will have you wishing you were as queer as they are…!” – Dave Coullier We also discuss a number of topics for this episode including, but not limited to: coming out of the closet, big butts, Erin Brockovich, local nut jobs, travelling, astrology, vegans, hair dressers, political business, and so much more! Have something to say about this ep? Or do you have anything else Digression Sessions related / unrelated to say? Should Josh stop saving farts in vitamin bottles?!?! Say it on our forum!! DigressionSessions.com !! PLEASE rate, subscribe, and provide a nice comment on the iTunes!! It’ll help the podcast climb the charts! Follow us on the Twitters:  @DigSeshPod @BetterRobotJosh @MichaelMoran10 @DoubleDuchess1 DO NOT forget that Mike Finazzo’s album “Stupid Genius” is available via Josh’s record label Better Robot Records on iTunes, Amazon, and Spotify!? Only $3.99 on iTunes! (BetterRobotRecords.com)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh yeah! You okay? Yeah, sorry. Okay. You shitting yourself? You know that's a sensitive subject with me. Why'd you have to bring it up? You're just psyching yourself up? Grab the bedpan, you. Refer to the Jim Tisdale episode, everyone. Yes. Some shitty stories on that one.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You might even say it was like the origin of the feces. Oh. Yeah, well, a real game of craps. I don't know. It's real fecal matter, and I don't want to get into it. It is. It's like scrubbing a poop deck. This is the worst series of puns we've ever engaged in. This is the shittiest podcast we've ever done.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yeah. Can we wipe this clean? I think so. It stinks. It certainly does. This podcast stinks. It certainly does. Welcome to the Digression Sessions podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Hi, everybody. I am one half of your favorite pair of earbuds, Josh Kaderna. And I am the other half of your favorite pair of earbuds. There it is.. And I am the other half of your favorite pair of earbuds. There it is. The slipsist with the slipped disc. Mike Moran. I can be both.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Alright, no. Why not? No, because that's not how people know you. You're the only one that knows you with that. But everybody knows me as the other half of their favorite pair of earbuds. Of course. You come up in conversation, they say, Mike Moran? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Him? He's half of my favorite pair of earbuds. Really? Yeah. Wow. That's the talk. If you can prove to me that that's true, then I will not only drop that new nickname, I will get that tattooed on my body, the favorite pair of earbuds thing. I'm Mike Moran, the other half of your favorite pair of earbuds.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yep. Where are you going to get it tattooed? Your choice. I can request that it be tattooed anywhere on your body. You certainly can. We're talking forehead, small of your back, your penis. Yeah. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Sure. But you're not going to go through with it, though. Absolutely not. Are you kidding me? Then why would you lie? Why would you say such things? Because I'm so confident that no one actually refers to me as their other half of their favorite pair of earbuds.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Not only is your face going to be red, but you're going to have a tattoo of it all over your face when you hear it. Everybody says it all the time when your name comes up in conversation. Like, who's that asshole? Oh, Mike Moran, the other pair? So why am I their favorite half of their pair of earbuds if I'm also an asshole? Stockholm Syndrome, mostly, I'd say. They've come to love you. What is Stockholm Syndrome, exactly?
Starting point is 00:03:13 It's when you fall in love with your captor. Okay, like Patty Hearst? Yeah, exactly like that. And Free Willy? I don't remember enough about Free Willy Or know who Patty Hearst is Really? No
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah, exactly like that I believe Patty Hearst was from Baltimore Okay And she was kidnapped by some weird communist party in the late 60s More of a cult type of thing So she says that commie pinko jerk Right And she was kept in a closet brainwashed.
Starting point is 00:03:45 They made me give up all my possessions and share. And she, so she was kidnapped and then a few months later she shows up on video surveillance footage at a bank robbery murdering someone. This is how long after? Not that much longer.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Maybe the guy didn't die. She definitely shot someone. And where was the bank i can't remember so she just went nuts no one knows she was she was like brainwashed by this group and eventually it came to to believe in their calls at least for the time being so what was their cause like uh american consumerism yeah something something like garage capitalism yeah some sort of uh i'm sure they had uh famous Che Guevara picture somewhere in their reading room. Black light poster of it. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:04:32 All right. Well, it is just Mike Moran and I right now holding down the dig sesh. That's right. As you may have noticed, we have guests today, but they're going to be arriving a little late, conflicting with Mike's schedule. I'm a very busy man. Busy, busy schedule. But they're an electro-pop, hip-hop, the hip-hop's group, Double Duchess.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Double Duchess. Out of San Francisco. I kept trying to Google them, and I kept getting pictures of women's butts. Uh-huh. And what did you type I kept getting pictures of women's butts. Uh-huh. And what did you type in the search box? Women's butts. No, no. See, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:05:12 You actually have to type what. I went over this with you last week. No, I said I tried to, but I kept. Women's butts. That's just what happens. Yeah. I mean, I wanted to type in double touches. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:05:24 But I just kept typing in women's butt. So did you get it? Apparently, there's some woman with a big butt named Double Duchess. Really? Mm-hmm. And is she like a porn star? Is she a model? I think more of a model.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Okay. Were these just sexy? They're just her butt. It's all about her butt. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like medical. She wasn't like a famous like.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Well, I'm saying. Yeah. I like medical she wasn't like a famous like well i'm saying yeah i understand that she wasn't double dutch's phd she wasn't like a uh you know someone that they do uh you know studies on because her butt is so big okay she's not a medical oddity well maybe but in a sexy way. The sexiest medical oddity of them. Since the elephant man. Since my uncle got elephantitis that one time. You know, the elephant man didn't actually have elephantitis. What did he have? I forget. Something else.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah, but elephantitis is just of the testicles. The testicles. No, it's not. The huevos. What? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I thought you could get it anywhere. I watch Double Dutch's PhD every day at 4 o'clock after Dr. Phil. I think I know something about anatomy. You know, some people thought that the elephant man was Jack the Ripper for a brief period. Who? Name 27 people. Cecil Howarthen. Say allegedly. Cecil Howarthin. Say allegedly.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Cecil Howarthin is very litigious. William Gothroy III of Westminster. King. King? Are you even a king? The king of Europe. Oh, the king of Europe. Franz Ferdinand.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Uh-huh. The band. The band from the early aughts. Yeah. That rocked everybody. No, the elephant man was in the area at the time, and there were rumors that he was the one going out and killing prostitutes. You think so? That kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, no, it's been proven to be, you know, probably completely bullshit. But at the time, there were people. Wait a minute. You said it's been proven to probably be completely. Yeah, there's evidence that it's very likely not possible. Okay. First, you were very definite. You're like, oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I am very definite. It's been proven to be completely probably. The Elephant Man, Jack the Ripper theory has been disproven long ago. Let me float this one. Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, Jack the Ripper, Elephant Man. They're a Venn diagram. Holy crap. They're meeting up in the middle right now, this serial killer Venn diagram I just drew.
Starting point is 00:08:08 What do you think of that? You didn't just draw that. You just waved your pen in a circular motion. All right. Well, I choose to see what I want to see. And obviously, you don't support me at all. Done. support me at all. Don Homer. It was funny, the day that we were talking about that. Talking about
Starting point is 00:08:31 what? Don Homer. Remember the Simpsons episode where Homer was being parodied? Remember the episode of Don Homer? When Homer was Don Homer. Where they killed that guy in the strip club.
Starting point is 00:08:46 They put that horse head in Ned Flanders' bed. No, there's a Simpsons parody where they were referencing The Godfather 2 where Homer was like the Don walking around the old-timey village. Yes. In New York. And the day that we were talking
Starting point is 00:09:03 about that, I was falling asleep listening to a podcast and i swear they just like referenced it like out of no nowhere like while i'm half asleep they're like good dog no homer huh no weird how simple things like that line up like sometimes you'll be sometimes that'll happen to me where i'll be listening to a podcast and reading something on the internet and like the phrase they just said will show up somewhere i had i had that very experience experience maybe a month ago where somebody said some word or two while I looked up at a sign that said the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:09:35 It's called the law of big numbers, Josh. Explain. With all the experiences that we have, every few months or so we're going to have a seemingly amazing coincidence. Well, what if it happens more often than once a month well then there's a god oh and there are no coincidences there are no coincidence what if it's just you cosmically lining up with the universe and it's signs what if there's not some god you know up there with his strings puppeting people along it's just once you're open once your chakras are open
Starting point is 00:10:06 uh-huh to the universe you can you can hear well then i then why not take one of those psychic challenges where you can win a whole bunch of money if you can prove that you're psychic but it's not being psychic you're confusing the two and then what is it it's just uh having cool stuff that's your only special power no No, not a special power, but instincts. Instincts. Do you think that's real? Something that you can listen to? You follow your instincts and better stuff happens.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Not really. Not in the way that I think you're getting at, no. What do you think I'm getting at? I think you're trying to give me a little bit of the Deepak Chopra, third eye, getting in touch with the universe type of stuff. You don't buy into that? Not really, no. I mean, I think there's certainly ways to like sharpen your instincts and, well, maybe
Starting point is 00:10:57 not your instincts, but your, you know, your senses. Right. And how do you do that? I do the elliptical 20 minutes a day. Uh-huh. And that heightens your senses. S. And how do you do that? I do the elliptical 20 minutes a day. Uh-huh. And that heightens your senses. Slightly, yes. And your instincts.
Starting point is 00:11:12 We should say that all of Mike's instincts are treadmill related. It's not a treadmill. It's an elliptical. Whatever. God damn it. See? Your bad vibes are ruining this microphone. Do you understand? Do you understand what you're doing? Right. Well damn it. See, your bad vibes are ruining this microphone. Do you understand?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Do you understand what you're doing? Right. Well, no, Mike, let's move away from the universe talk. Let's talk about you. Sounds good to me. All right. So you recently wrote an article. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Actually, I kind of wrote it a while ago. It took forever to get published. I had to revise it many times. Okay. You wrote an article for Patch.com. Correct. North Baltimore Patch. North Baltimore Patch.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Now, can you break it down? Wait, are you talking about North Baltimore Patch? Yeah. North Baltimore Patch. Wait, what? Just kidding. Yeah. That's your character you're working on. That really is me honestly like i i developed this like fear i think at some point in my life that people aren't going to know that
Starting point is 00:12:10 i'm kidding yeah because i've had many instances where i where i've tormented myself over did that person know i was joking right yeah i had that at uh at work today i think um everybody knows that i just kind of joke around all the time and there's this woman Donna who's really really nice she sits across from me she's like man sometimes I feel like we're just in a Seinfeld episode or something and I said yeah absolutely I know what you mean
Starting point is 00:12:35 and a few seconds passed she's like Josh what? she's like were you being sarcastic when you said that or do you really think that was just my actual that's a little different that's you being normal and somebody else questioning right but no but it's it's similar in the way that it's like i don't know it's like do they really know what i'm saying like they don't know when i'm kidding you know what i mean like do they know like i'm being
Starting point is 00:12:58 completely sincere they're like is he fucking with me right or versus like when you're fucking with somebody and they think you're completely serious. Yeah. Again if I could draw a Venn diagram I think we're sinking up. You could draw a Venn diagram and just refuse to. We're sinking up
Starting point is 00:13:11 in the middle here. If I didn't have elephantitis draw a Venn diagram call back. Are you sure it's only of the testicles? Yeah. I think you can get it anywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Like I said I watch Double Duchess. Dr. Double Duchess. I watch the Triple D every day. If it's a day that ends in Y, I'm watching Triple D. Double Duchess. I'm going to have to bring this up to those gentlemen when they show up later. Yeah, do that.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I will. Tell them Mike sent you. Is that the first thing that pops up? I found a lot of pictures of... I assume it was one woman's posterior. It may have been several. You can't tell the difference between... They look the same to me.
Starting point is 00:13:58 That's because you're a racist. All butts look the same to me. Oh, yeah, but I wrote a column for Patch North Baltimore called Remington versus business, why? Question mark. Go on. So, Mike, this is the second thing that pops up on Google, and it's their website.
Starting point is 00:14:18 That is definitely not what I found. And the group that I did find was not this. Hmm. How'd you spell Duchess? However you texted it to me. Two S's at the end. D-U-C-H-E-S-S. Is that the way you...
Starting point is 00:14:34 No. Okay. Looks like it. Yeah, this is their website. You want me to tell you the first thing that pops up on Google when I Google them? Their Facebook. This is not what was happening. They must have changed the internet in the last few hours.
Starting point is 00:14:51 In the last few hours, they've rectified all of Google. Apparently, yes. None of this showed up. None of it. Literally all of their stuff is showing up. Literally? Literally. Tell us a little bit about Double Dutchess Josh.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I was hoping they could do it because I don't know too much. I know. All right. We'll get into it later in the cast. But I know that they're... Let's see. Let's see how these fellas describe themselves. Actually, Mike, while I do a little research here so we don't have the worst podcast ever.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Oh, God. Man, that's going to piss me off. All right. Tell me more about your article. I just wrote an article about why it is so difficult to open up a business in Remington, which is a, I don't know, a part of Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It's a crappy part of Baltimore, I think is the word you were looking for. Yeah. But it doesn't need to be.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It's sandwiched right in between Hamden and Charles Village and Station North. Yes. And yes, I
Starting point is 00:15:58 realize most sandwiches don't have three layers, but club sandwiches do. And just nailed you to the floor. Which is why Wyman Park is separated. With toothpicks.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Right. So yeah, I just did a column on why Remington still kind of sucks while all these other areas around are getting much better. And the reason seems to be because it's nearly impossible to open a business there, mainly because of one couple. Now, how is that possible that one couple can prevent businesses from thriving in a part of Baltimore? Well, because these people have power over a neighborhood group.
Starting point is 00:16:50 But mainly because the woman is a paralegal who works for a lawyer. I mean, I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that she is... The most powerful people in the world. Paralegals. But it seems to me that she puts together her own cases and has the lawyer there just to make it official. And sues everyone that tries to move in just regularly. Right. Just over and over. Yeah, but how does she, how can she afford to do that?
Starting point is 00:17:22 Because she probably doesn't have to pay anything because she puts the cases together herself and has a lawyer there. Yeah, but why does he do it? What do you mean? Like, he has other stuff to do. Yeah, it's not like... They clearly do other stuff, too. Yeah, but I'm saying... He has other cases where he's getting paid to do lawyerly things.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And then here's this bitch who's upset that a restaurant wants to get a liquor license. Well, she probably... You know, they probably work it out, like, through what she gets paid. And then here's this bitch who's upset that a restaurant wants to get a liquor license. They probably work it out through what she gets paid. She probably works on his cases, too. I mean, honestly, the core of it is a total mystery to everyone, it seems, as to why she is doing this. All right. Do you think she has some dirt on somebody? I don't know. The reasons behind her suing nearly every business that moves into Remington
Starting point is 00:18:07 are the explanations I've been given from angry business owners are everything from she's like crazy and just likes having this power to she's getting kickbacks under the table to stop suing people to... What? Yeah. How does that work?
Starting point is 00:18:24 I don't know. I have no evidence for any of this. You're ruining our community. Here's some money. Well, no. I think it would be, will you please stop suing us? Here's some money under the table. So she's just going to do it again. It obviously hasn't prevented her from doing it. So who cares if she gets sued?
Starting point is 00:18:40 Shouldn't a lot of this stuff get thrown out? She's not getting sued. She's suing people. I know, but whoever she's suing, what does she sue? On what grounds? Just neighborhood regulations and laws. Outdoor seating, liquor licenses, hours. So she sues against them. She sued the Crestmont Laws for being too tall.
Starting point is 00:19:05 It's a mystery. She sued the Crestmont Laws for being too tall. Still, this is... It's a mystery. It's a couple, mainly the woman, who sue everyone who moves into Remington, and no one really knows exactly why. Why doesn't... Can somebody sue them? Surely we can sue them for something. Several people suggested that in responses to my column. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Again, I have zero... I could find no evidence that she was and according to some she's making money by suing the the state repeatedly like or the city when uh they on technicalities and somehow she gets paid for that because apparently she's knows more about law than like anyone what um yeah the whole thing's really bizarre so i don't i really don't know if she's making money from this. Some people are claiming. That seems impossible for her to be making money. I know, but I just can't imagine what the motivation is.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Her motivation officially is to preserve the neighborhood's charm, but the neighborhood kind of sucks. Yeah, there is no charm. Exactly. It's a mystery. It's so bizarre. No one's been able to provide an answer. A lot of people say it's just insane. Yeah. There's a really nice restaurant that opened up
Starting point is 00:20:16 in Remington and they have this beautiful bar and went in there the other day to get food and the bar is just completely empty. It looks like they spent a lot of money, made it look really nice, and the restaurant's pretty much empty too.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Right. But it's BYOB, which I guess they got, but the whole thing is they couldn't have a liquor license because of this woman. You said in Hamden? No, no, no, I'm sorry, in Remington, yeah. Yeah. And it's just, it's completely ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Like the owner was saying, I might have heard from Mike Colligan, mutual friend of ours, that like a group of 16 people came in and they're like, oh, let's get a drink and let's get something to eat. And then they're like, hey, sorry, we don't serve. And they went somewhere else. So it's costing them so much money. That's exactly what I was talking about in my column. Probably the same restaurant.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah. It's right next to Sweet Sin. Yeah. What's it called? It's Meat 27. Meat 27. It's essentially the same restaurant as Sweet Sin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. Same owners. Just, you know, they kind of have a double venture going there. Right. Sweet Sin is sort of like a bakery, but they also serve gluten-free baked goods as well. And they have lunch items. They have some lunch items, but it's smaller. It's not so much like a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And B27 is more of a fine dining. Yeah. Sweet Sin is more like a cafe where you can get some good food. Right. So this just drives me nuts. I don't understand how she can get away with all this shit. You and like half the residents of Remington. Yeah, there's no charm because no businesses want to be there.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Just because you have a bar doesn't mean... And it's because of two people. Yeah, which is insane. But a bar doesn't necessarily equal debauchery. Absolutely not. At a fine dining restaurant? Yeah. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah. Officially her concern over that was that they will turn it over. They'll sell the license to a dirtier establishment. That's what they want to do? No, that's not what they want to do. They're claiming that's what could happen. I understand that's not what they want to do. I'm saying in her mind.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Right, exactly. That's all they want to do is spend all this money on a restaurant and then turn it into a strip club right like what that's exactly what they want to do that's why they built that stage that currently has tables on it and they put poles everywhere oh my god that's that's insanity yeah yeah so and that has inspired a firestorm on the internet? It has. It has. It's definitely been my most recognized column thus far. This is your Leave Britney Alone video. Yes. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:22:58 This is my... Lots of heat. Right. Yeah. What are some of the comments that have that you've been getting um the word nut job has been used several times well what do they say about her i would like to give her a nut job really do they explain what a nut job is no um yeah the mud slinging started nearly right away a couple people were unhappy with a few things i
Starting point is 00:23:27 said although agreed with me for the most part why would you say um a few people were not backing me on uh my suggestion that even a walmart would would be nice compared to what's going on in remington right now um a few people didn't like me backing up Sweet Sin so much. They claimed that they had unfair business practices or something, which I have no idea about. What are their unfair business practices? I think just not, according to one blogger. Yeah, I mean, yeah, what did they say?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Just not paying their employees fairly. But, you know, last time I checked, they weren't forcing people by gunpoint to work there. Yeah. Just shackled. That's all. That's all. No biggie. No biggie.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Well, that sucks, man. But at least you're taking her head on. I mean, I haven't seen any pieces. Aaron Brockovich right here. Where? Right here. Me. Behind you?
Starting point is 00:24:25 No, I am Remington's Aaron Brockovich right here. Where? Right here. Behind you? No, I am Remington's Aaron Brockovich. I'm Harvey Dent. So that's your new thing. You're no longer the solipsist with the slip disc. You're Remington's Aaron Brockovich. That's how you want to be introduced? Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I'll go with that. I'm doing sexual favors. Is that what Aaron Brockovich did? I think so. I didn't see the movie. You're just making stuff up? No, I'm pretty sure that's what... Why?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Why are you pretty sure about that? Because you don't have to see a movie to get the gist of it all the time. I've never seen Close Encounters of the Third Time, but I know it's about aliens. It's Close Encounters of the Third Kind. but I know it's about aliens. It's Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Did I say time? You said the third time. For the third time, these encounters are close. Look, I don't need to see Socked Up to know that Seth Rogen's a bum, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:19 I don't need it. I don't need to see Naked Lunch to know that it's about the culinary arts. Yeah. No, Erin Brockovich didn't do that. I don't need to see Naked Lunch to know that it's about the culinary arts. Yeah. No, Erin Brockovich didn't do that. I'm pretty sure she did. Why are you saying that? Because she's, well, it's based on a real person. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And I've read about her a little bit. I can't really remember anything about what I read. Right, so you have nothing to base this on. You just assume that she's just traded sexual favors. There was definitely something sexual involved. I can't really remember what it was exactly. So that she's just traded sexual favors. There was definitely something sexual involved. I can't really remember what it was exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So now you're just making stuff up. No, I'm not. I think I even remember in the trailer for Aaron Brockovich, Julia Roberts, as Aaron Brockovich,
Starting point is 00:25:55 says, I just traded sexual favors for something something. So you have a lot of what ifs here and supposedly's. Look up Aaron Brockovich.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I don't need to to know that her journalistic integrity must be way higher than yours. She obviously blew a guy to find out the water was bad. Look, I don't need to see the trailer to know that she was a whore. Let's look this up right now. Looking up Erin Brockovich. Erin Brockovichovich sexual favors. I feel like half of our podcast is me trying to prove things and Josh telling me that I'm retarded. I never once said you're retarded.
Starting point is 00:26:35 They came out in 2000. I thought that was like a 96er. Okay. Oh, it looks like a quote. I just went out and performed sexual favors. I know, Josh, but what about Aaron Brockovich? Oh, it looks like a quote. I just went out and performed sexual favors. I know, Josh, but what about Aaron Brockovich? Oh, sorry. I got to get people to listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:57 There's some controversy in real life, though, if she was really as noble as they made her out to be. What? A Hollywood movie didn't make somebody, didn't portray them in an to be. What? A Hollywood movie didn't make somebody? Didn't portray them in an accurate light? What? Storyline. Should we just read the entire storyline?
Starting point is 00:27:13 All right, let's read it together. Here, no, we'll read it. I read one word, you read the next. Okay. All right, you ready? Mm-hmm. All right, go. Erin.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Brockovich. Is. An. Unemployed. Single. Mother. Desperate. To.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Find. A. Job. But. Is. Having. No. Luck. Brockovich is an unemployed single mother desperate to find a job, but is having no luck. This losing streak even extends to a failed lawsuit against a doctor and a car accident. She was in with no alternative. She successfully browbeats her lawyer. Whoa, you said two words. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:27:47 All right, start over. Her. Aaron. No, don't start over. Oh, my God. I'm going to delete so much. Her. Her.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Her. Her. Oh. Come on, we didn't even finish. We're not going to finish. I want to know now. Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. We're going to look for the quotes here. Okay. You play... I'll play...
Starting point is 00:28:20 No, you play Aaron Brockovich. I'll play Kurt Potter and Ed Mazury. Okay. Here we are, right here you play Aaron Brockovich. I'll play Kurt Potter and Ed Masry. Okay. Here we are, right here. Okay. All right. Now, I'm Kurt Potter. We're reading from the Hollywood movie Aaron Brockovich.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And action. What? How'd you do this? Well, seeing as how I have no brains or legal expertise, and Ed, he was losing all faith in the system. Am I right? Oh, yeah, completely. Answer the question.
Starting point is 00:28:49 No faith. No faith. I just went out there and performed sexual favors. 634 blowjobs in five days. I'm really quite tired. I told you. Okay. You have proved.
Starting point is 00:29:01 If I would have told you that that was an actual quote from the film, you would have gotten up and walked out of your house and forced me to live here and take care of your girlfriend i that never spoken to me again that's exactly what i would have done exactly mike now obviously sharpening the instincts aaron brockovich said that in jest She had a child inside her? No. No. She was kidding. I don't think so. You think she actually gave 634 blowjobs in five days?
Starting point is 00:29:36 Well, let's break it down, all right? Uh-huh. 24 hours in a day. Sure. How many blowjobs did she say? 634. That's like 100 and so a day. At least.
Starting point is 00:29:54 At least. 24 hours in a day. Sure. So now we're at what? Like five blowjobs an hour? If she doesn't sleep for that entire time. She's hooked up to an IV because she's not eating. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:30:10 630. Are they just coming to her? They must be. Hey, they must be. She's driving back and forth across this small town. Gas price. Well, it wasn't the gas prices in the late 90s. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:25 So, all right. Mike Moran. Yeah. You honestly believe Brock. This would have ate up a lot of the movie too if they filmed her. Probably would have changed the rating as well. Oh, most definitely. Well, I guess they might be able to work around it. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:42 634 blowjobs. You think it had like a counter, like a montage? The clock and the calendar. Wiping the mouth. Boy, am I tired. All right. So, Mike, are you ready to apologize
Starting point is 00:30:58 to Erin Brockovich? She is a real person. Bring her out. Erin? Oh, I'm getting some blowjobs. This podcast is at a new low. It's me,
Starting point is 00:31:12 Aaron Brockovich. Did you need me? I got a lot of blowjobs I guess. Mike, would you like to say something, Aaron? Yes, Mike. Please. Aaron, I just want to say Speak up. Can you speak up for her her I think you deserved better than to be
Starting point is 00:31:30 portrayed by that hooker from pretty woman okay well you're not going to apologize for insinuating that the only way I got stuff done was by blowing people of a line that I obviously said in a facetious manner.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's your best female impression, Josh. You sound like you're reading his children. Do not. Aaron Brockovich is standing right there. Yeah, I might be very rude to Josh. Yeah. Now I owe two apologies. Let's hear them, buddy.
Starting point is 00:32:04 They're stacking up. Alright. Aaron? I'm sorry that I said you gave 365 blowjobs in five days. It was 634. I'm sorry. I meant in two and a half days. I guess that's pretty half-assed,
Starting point is 00:32:22 but I know I've seen your comedy, so most things are half-assed. It's okay. Wow. Ooh. And now mine? Yeah. Apologize.
Starting point is 00:32:31 What did I do to you again? Now you owe me two, because now you don't even remember. I, uh... Yeah? What did I do? Wow. Wow. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Oh, boy. All right. Let's wrap this thing up. All right. Let's wrap this thing up. Should we... Let's record me talking to the double duchess. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:57 This will just be you saying just generic yes and no's. Agreeing. Yeah. All right. Okay. Go right. Okay. Go ahead. So what inspired you to do the Double Dutchess Project? Who are your influences?
Starting point is 00:33:13 You have a big butt. Look, you'll be there, Josh. That one's going in, too. All right. What am I going to say? I don't think I want to make it to the grocery store. And you'll be like, look, you'll be there, Josh. Good point, Josh.
Starting point is 00:33:32 That's humorous. Oh, wow. That must have been difficult. Really? So I guess it all worked out in the end then, huh? Two and a half times on the same space shuttle. Who would have thought? Theory of big numbers.
Starting point is 00:34:05 We were just talking about that What a coincidence We were just discussing coincidences Welcome back to the Aaron Brockovich What did I say? We were discussing her car This is 2004 Aaron Brockovich She drives a 98 Ford Taurus for and Rakovic. She's trying to
Starting point is 00:34:25 98 Ford Taurus. All right. So contrary to popular belief, contrary to Mike Moran's belief, Double Dutch is not a bunch of lady butts.
Starting point is 00:34:39 There are two gentlemen that make an electro. I believe I'm not saying that you don't know what you're talking about, but the Internet has a differing opinion. All I know is when you leave.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Just don't be shocked when they show up. I just have two lady butts sitting in these chairs. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, dearie. Oh, dearie. All right, well, without further ado, let's get to the interview. All right, have a good interview, Josh. With Double Duchess. And I will see you in the future. further ado let's get to the interview all right have a good interview josh with double duchess
Starting point is 00:35:05 and i will see you in the future future everybody better robot records.com i love you oh yeah I love that East Coast heat. Oh, that humidity? It's Coast heat, huh? Oh, that humidity? It's pretty good, right? It's good. You guys don't like air conditioning, right? You hate it.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's terrible. Okay, good. You came to the right place. This is great. Excellent. This is a kismet. It's terrible. Right. Remind me of my friend Dez.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Dez? Like, I know. I should have just told you that he's like Dez. You're a bit like Dez. Oh. I think Dez is a bit like me. All right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Good point, Josh. Okay. All right. There you go. All right. Invite you into my home. Just pretend like we're talking. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Since we have some history, you know, he can just pretend like he's talking to des i mean if that makes you more comfortable all right all right it is sorry well mike and i recorded an intro but if you guys could introduce yourselves to uh to our dozens of listeners Fierce This is fierce This is fierce What's that? Dozens is in plural Oh yeah Well sometimes We'll see Sometimes it's 12
Starting point is 00:36:53 Sometimes it's You gotta pull that microphone to your face There you go Yeah you can stretch it over Is that good? I don't know Yeah that's good It's fierce
Starting point is 00:37:03 Can you hear it? So this is fierce So this is fierce. So this is fierce. Good times. Yeah. It's fierce. Why do I keep saying that? So I'm Devo.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh, hey, Devo. Hey. Hey. And who'd you bring with you? This is Krylon. Hey, Krylon. Hi, I'm Krylon. Hey.
Starting point is 00:37:23 How's it going? I'm good. I'm really nervous. Why? I just Krylon. Hey, how's it going? I'm good. I'm really nervous. Why? Because it's weird. Really? Just randomly. I've seen your guys' videos.
Starting point is 00:37:31 You perform with like two inches worth of cloth and like bounce around on stage, but you're nervous now? Yeah, when people can see me. That's better? It's better. All right. Is that weird? A little bit. Okay. That's not that weird's better. All right. Is that weird? A little bit.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Okay. That's not that weird. I don't know. I think just once you put a microphone in somebody's face, it gets like, I don't know. You get nervous about the things you say, that's all. I do. I do. Yeah, well, like I said, dozens of people are judging you now.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Dozens. Dozens. And dozens. Yeah, well, I'm Krylon. Oh, hey. You're like, all right. All right. Well, well, I'm Krylon. Oh, hey. You're like, all right. All right, well, thank you guys for coming over. Dave, he played in the band Geppetto that I went and saw when I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:38:15 You guys were the shit for my group of friends and many other people in the Maryland area. But, yeah, I remember seeing you guys at Paisano's. I was like, yeah, 9th grade. I think I was like 14. Paisanos was a pizza place that a bunch of local bands used to play. I remember seeing Grand Buffet there for the first time. Yes, Grand Buffet. You know today's Grunge's
Starting point is 00:38:36 birthday, by the way. Yeah, I saw that on Facebook. I need to get those guys on the podcast. I think Lord Grunge is doing stand-up now or something similar. He does stuff with the Wham City guys, I think. think he's doing something i don't know what he's doing but yeah are they getting back together or are they kind of doing like separate i don't know i can't really speak on that okay what i understand i think they're going separate ways but i don't know okay last time i talked to jackson he wanted to do more theater really well theater-ish
Starting point is 00:39:03 performances whether that means performance art or theater or right overly theatrical music stuff he doesn't seem like an over theatrical guy that jackson that's weird tame yeah pretty tame gal yeah but uh but yeah i saw you go through many incarnations so So Geppetto broke up. You guys recorded Inksbox. You couldn't make Chiba 2. You said, fuck it. It's over. It's over.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Move on to Victory Party. Yeah, we just started doing more drugs. That's why we couldn't do Chiba 2. Yeah, just like the Beatles. It's a little PC to talk about other things. We can't talk about that. So, no. You guys went to Indiaia we went to india started smoking a lot of opium no um i don't know then we started victory parker's
Starting point is 00:39:52 i started a victory party which i started playing more drums yeah um i don't know i wasn't i wasn't out with geppetto but i was kind of well, I'm kind of a faggot. Geppetto's not for me. No, it was just, we all outgrew it, I think. But it was a launching pad for all of us. Right. Yeah. Well, you guys were all like high school friends, right?
Starting point is 00:40:18 So kind of just started a band. Yeah. And then it just went its natural course, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. And I started playing drums and such. And then it just went its natural course, I guess. Yeah, yeah. And then I started playing drums and such. And then what happened? I started learning how to do production work. And then I moved to San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And I started DJing slash doing more production stuff. And then I met this queen over here. Okay, you don't have to call me a queen. I'm talking about this. Oh, okay. You don't have to call me a queen. That's humorous. and so when was that when how long have you guys been uh making the musics um at like three years like off and on three years but like actively like really pursuing this about a year and a half
Starting point is 00:40:59 yeah and you guys have uh your first ep on iTunes. It's Hey Girl? That's what it's called. It's called Hey Girl, the exclamation point. Sorry, it's Hey Girl. It's Hey Girl. Yeah, it came out in March. Getting that iTunes money. Working on getting that iTunes money.
Starting point is 00:41:18 We just had a video for the second single. Getting that video money. That video money. If there's money in the video, it'd be cool. But not. Money, money. Yeah, some kind of that video money. That video money. If there's money in the video, it'd be cool. But not. Money, money. Yeah. Some kind of money, money.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Uh-huh. That's going to come out June 15th. Cool. Via the web or wherever else. The internets. Check that out. Uh-huh. So just look on the internets for it?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah. Just type in video. Type in internet. We're like, hey, don't touch this internet video where you at lots of big booty videos definitely absolutely my friend my friend that you may know casey heen described it as a trippy in living color video themed i could see that, actually. That makes sense. Very bright. Very bright color. Sure. Sure. Awesome, man. So when you moved to San Francisco, why San Francisco?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Why San Francisco? I think I was ready for something drastically different, and I wanted to kind of get far away from East Coast culture scene and just check out something different. Right. Because I guess, did you grow up in Maryland? I did. i grew up in maryland and baltimore and annapolis primarily annapolis right yeah and then i just kind of was like i mean we toured a lot up and down the east coast so i kind of yeah with it and i wanted something that i didn't know because chris and i moved out there to tour with victory party and yeah that didn't really happen yeah what happened
Starting point is 00:42:43 there it's just chris was always on the road. Yeah, Chris was out just making a lot of money and meeting a lot of people and working with other bands. And I think I was there in a city I didn't know anybody. So I started doing a lot of DJ work and sampling stuff. Yeah, I just think eventually I kind of grew into San Francisco as a home base. Are there any gay people in San Francisco? A couple. that's good you found them couple i did good for you you know good for you announced to me you know but seriously i didn't know i mean i knew that san francisco was gay i know but i think i like subconsciously i was not really moving there for
Starting point is 00:43:20 that reason i think it was because um it was like the city and it still feels to me like the city that feels the most like an East Coast city on the West Coast. It's compact, I guess. What's the difference? Because I haven't traveled at all.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I've only been on a plane once. Really? That was for work. And they were like, they had a bunch of extra money to spend for training. And they're like, well, we have this trip
Starting point is 00:43:43 to St. Louis if you want to go i'm like yeah it's fuck yeah so they paid for my first uh plane ride so that's what i was all excited about i was like i get to get on so i guess it all worked out how old are you've never been on a plane like no like what's wrong like nothing's wrong i just all my family was close so that was my first trip had a nice layover in O'Hare, Chicago. Oh, yeah, I've been there. And that's, I think, where Puff Daddy did, where he's on, like, the, what is that, like, moving walkway thing.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And he was in the Stories B.I.G. video where they sample. I'm coming. Right? No, not that one. It's the one where they sampled the police song and like yeah i think it's i think yeah that one that just came on the radio the other day you were in the car weren't we no no okay okay nice to make that up drama on the podcast here. Drama. I'm just lying already, girl.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Yeah, so O'Hare, great airport. You guys should check it out sometime. Lots of layovers. I'm a jet setter. Went to St. Louis. You know what they call Panera Bread in St. Louis? What? St. Louis bread.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Did they give you peanuts at least? What's that? Did they give you peanuts? Peanuts? No, I didn't get any of those. I got a complimentary soda. Would you like some peanuts now? No, I will have some later though.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Thank you. I don't think it's good to chew into the mic on the podcast. Oh my God. Did you hear me doing that earlier? Yeah. Oh, great. And dozens of people did. You know what they did?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Judged you. Immediately. Thank God. No, not in a good way. Oh, that's perfect. Cannot win win with this guy playing right into his hand how do you deal with this son of a gun i do um i don't know just feed him peanuts but it's cool yeah well it's funny that we we eat vegan all the time i eat vegan all the time we go on tour because Carlin's a vegan. Which is interesting because we definitely eat a lot of whole foods. That has to be so expensive, right?
Starting point is 00:45:52 It can be. Can be? I work for Whole Foods. There you go. Oh, ding, ding, ding. A.K.A. I steal from Whole Foods a lot. Oh, thanks for that. I borrow.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I'm not judging. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm not judging. Yeah, that's a good idea. If you're a vegan vegan work at a grocery store especially a nice one yeah it helps out so yeah in in dire times or short amount of a lot of short a lot of times does that maybe make sense we google whole foods and then we go to whole foods and then we go down the road okay easy breezy right yeah as a vegetarian i'm hungry all the time so i think
Starting point is 00:46:26 if i was a vegan i'd be just eating constantly are you are you always hungry tough question this was this podcast you didn't know you're walking into this i didn't this is yeah this is tough i mean i eat fish and stuff right so i imagine what you're not really hungry all the time um you know it's really weird. My palate has changed. Yeah? So it's just peanuts and Oreos all the time. Well, it's a lot of salads and things like that. A lot of tofu and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Right on. But I'm not hungry a lot. No? You know, eating is so boring. It's just the same old thing. I love food swallow really repetitive but if you make different things if it's good food it's good food that's yeah exactly i'm learning how to get my okay i don't want to get deep on a podcast get deep
Starting point is 00:47:18 break it down go there break it down well i lived in berlin for a really long time and okay my my eating habits changed there oh okay i kind of brought a lot of like that european type eating habits into they don't eat a lot in europe they eat when they not like when they feel like it right an actual like sit down yeah for breakfast and sit down for lunch right so it's not just eating all the time like in america yeah it's like on the go food sure Like in America It's like on-the-go food Sure, yeah, we have to have like yogurt And little Go-Gurt pouches and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:47:51 Have you heard of that? It's one of the weirdest, it's called Go-Gurt So you can have yogurt on the go Because that's what we all want, right? Isn't that one of the weirdest things? It's kind of like those Flavorice popsicles It's one of the weirdest things It's really gross.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I'm vegan, so I wouldn't know. That's right. I just don't even pay attention. That's right. We don't have a TV either, so there's that. There goes our Go-Gurt sponsorship. I told you, we've got to stick to Oreos.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Oreos has got some money. Who's this fellow walking in here? This is Steve. Hey, Steve. How's it going? Good. How are you? Steve is a DJ and a promoter in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Oh, okay. And we are playing Golden West via Steven's help. Ah. Yes. Gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Golden West
Starting point is 00:48:46 Did I just say that? Where are you playing? The Golden West tonight The what? Oh my god yeah Tonight? Golden Wheezy Get the hell out of here
Starting point is 00:48:53 Get the hell out of here So quick too I mean it's tonight already Really Yeah But where is it? The Golden West Oh my
Starting point is 00:49:01 Golden Wheezy Yeah in Hamden right here Yeah Live Yeah exactly I don't know where it is We're in Baltimore The Golden West? Oh, my. Yeah, in Hamden, right? Yeah. Live. Yeah, exactly. I don't know where he is. We're in Baltimore. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Is this your first time in Baltimore? This is my second time in Baltimore. Would you like to share your first story of when you were in Baltimore? Oh. What? Being chased down the street. Because I wasn't chased. I thought I was being chased. Yeah. Why? I don't I wasn't chased I thought I was being chased yeah I just why I
Starting point is 00:49:28 don't know I I was um what was I doing in Baltimore I don't even know what I was doing in Baltimore oh I was doing this sex workers art show but it wasn't it was in Baltimore yeah so I was doing the sex workers art show okay and I can't remember where it was because i don't know where i'm at and um and it was downtown i do know that and i was going to the bank and i thought people were chasing me just because they were lining up behind you at the atm with guns right well that's just baltimore your effing money they said Well, they didn't say that so much. They actually telepathically communicated that to me. Yeah. All right. Well, I hope no one...
Starting point is 00:50:11 It sucks having powers. Sure. You have them too, I can tell. See that? I just answered the question. I know. Am I scratching your nose? That's how I do it.
Starting point is 00:50:21 That's where my powers are. I actually grow the nostrils out so I can speak different languages. Nice. Because, you know. That's how I do it. That's where my powers are. I actually grow the nostrils out so I can speak different languages. That's gross. It's good to be multicultural. Okay. Hey, just keep that between you and me. That's all. You don't have to say that into the mic.
Starting point is 00:50:36 All right. Well, yeah. What are you guys doing on the East Coast? Did you come out to play shows? We did. Yeah, we booked. This is our first tour. We've done some stuff on the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And then, yeah. And then so we've kind of made a name for ourselves in San Francisco a little bit. Right, right. So, yeah, this is our first run on the East Coast. We did Brooklyn. And now we – go ahead. I don't want to see it in the way. No... You can eat it. Just eat away for the mic.
Starting point is 00:51:09 There you go. Judging, judging, judging, judging with every bite. Unbelievable. What did we do? The first half of the tour we kind of had some time off so it was nice. We did Brooklyn and then we hung out in New York for a day.
Starting point is 00:51:24 You just did Philly, right? We just did philly right just philly last night baltimore tonight driving to atlanta tomorrow headlining a big huge queer festival called mondo homo in atlanta mondo homo and then flying up to or driving back up to dc to do cobalt on saturday night okay and then sunday night is annapolis metropolitan nice yes that's a bunch of shows yeah that's pretty good what do you guys what do you guys tour with do you have a lot of like equipment that you have to bring costumes just that's it so you went from bringing around like congas to costumes tons of drumming equipment and it was the most liberating thing i've ever done glitter too yeah oh yeah big glitter budget we do have a glitter budget yeah we like confetti
Starting point is 00:52:14 party city is amazing we get runs by party city save a lot of money we need to get sponsored by party city and whole foods uh yeah do you know what i mean and oreos if it doesn't work out i'm really not into being sponsored by Oreos. Why not? We'd have to eat a lot of them. Yeah. I only eat them when I'm desperate and I'm feeling a little nervous. So Oreos are the go-to?
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah. All right. Well, maybe you can work that angle. Like whenever I'm nervous, Oreo. Oh, nice. I don't know where it goes from there, but I don't know. Maybe do something really cool afterwards. Like, nice. I don't know where it goes from there, but I don't know. Maybe do something really cool afterwards, like a podcast. Have you only really only been in a plane once?
Starting point is 00:52:51 Well, I mean, technically it was like four times because I had to lay over. Good point, Josh. I had to lay over on the way back. Wow. So four plane rides. I don't want to brag. You have such plane energy. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah. Yeah, I'm a jet setter. Like I said, do you guys know what Panera is called in st. Louis? St. Louis bread yeah Yeah Yeah, it was a plane ride was good. Yeah Frontier frontier, I think it's slash Midwest is what it's called. I think it's on frontier mm-hmm slash Midwest when I fly I only do Delta.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah, well, if you do, and you should, because they have a pleasant surprise halfway through the plane ride. Uh-oh. What is it? Come on, spoil it. I don't know what to tell you. I don't want to spoil it for you. Come on. Because you can probably fly Frontier to Midwest because it's very Midwest.
Starting point is 00:53:39 All right, so they give you, like, warm chocolate chip cookies. Really? Like, warm. Do they make it a surprise? They make them, bitches, and they bring them out it's fierce except i'm vegan yeah so extra cookies for you i get two cookies that's an even bigger surprise and then if you flow with eric eric is not here eric has been tour managing slash djing slash hanging out with us for this run going making whole foods runs vegan too he's been vegan for like 23 years oh Oh, shit. So he's like a vegan wizard.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I would definitely get his cookie, too. Yeah. That would be awesome. Right. Three cookies, score. That's why you're going to the gym.
Starting point is 00:54:12 You're eating all these goddamn cookies all the time. You're right. Exactly right. I don't maintain that figure. Zane is gay. Oh, wait. You're gay?
Starting point is 00:54:19 A little bit. Isn't that weird? A little bit. When he told me that I almost quit the band, I was like, girl, why are you gay? Yeah. My mind is blown.
Starting point is 00:54:28 How did you get there? What's that? What? I don't know. I don't know. Sorry. Ladies, don't fight here. I know.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It's not on the podcast. Yeah. Not on the podcast. Hey, I'm not a lady. I'm a woman. Sorry. Sorry. I'm a woman.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Sorry. Being in a gay band is really fun except i'm not gay oh yeah don't doubt me on a podcast man everybody is shocked now oh my god oh my god any ladies out there want to get their hair done. Get your hair and your nails done, girl. Hit me up. Wow. All right. Yeah. I think you'll get some responses.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Maybe. We'll see. Hopefully. Yeah, I remember when you came out, everybody was like, Dave's gay. I was like, oh, good for him. Good for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I did hear most people thought, you know, Chris. I think most people thought it was Chris. I actually heard people tell me that, like, oh, well, y'all thought it was Chris. Right, yeah. A lot of people did say that. They were like, somebody in Geppetto is gay. It's like, ah, Chris, that son of a bitch. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Lead singer. Right. Energy. Yeah. No, but, yeah, I remember just being really happy for it. It's like, that's great. And you look like you had, like a weight lifted off your shoulders. And I'm just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I did. I did. Yeah. I don't really know if I came out when Geppetto was still existing, though. I think it was in some stage. Yeah. But I don't think it was in the Inksbox days. I don't.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I think it was after that came out. Yeah. Yeah. Did all the CDs say Inksbox, by the way? With the misprint? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think so i think so yeah the album was ink box and then it was inks box what was inks box yeah inx it's about 2 000 misprints
Starting point is 00:56:13 what are you gonna do a collector's item right yeah exactly yeah we let we ditched our manager by that time so we really had no one else to blame but ourselves you had a manager yeah how'd that go it was okay. What'd he do? Just get you shows and stuff? Got us shows, yeah. Okay. Kind of built the energy.
Starting point is 00:56:30 He sort of, you know, I don't really know what Adam did. And you could ask all of us. We all really don't know what he did at all, actually. Besides take a cut of your money? Yeah. As soon as we realized that we could get somebody else. Right. Oh, man, maybe we should do that.
Starting point is 00:56:45 That he's not the only manager. Right. And then a year went by and we're like, oh, what about that idea? Get somebody else. Oh, yeah, cool. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But no, that was a great album when Inks Box came out. It was a seminal album for a young Josh Koderna. Nice. Yeah, absolutely, man. It's a very very it's definitely like one of the better records that i've ever put out like just as far as like it's because it was very like the fact of it being very like emotionally draining because like that record to me was like a lot of the stuff i was writing about was about how i couldn't be out so it was sort of like
Starting point is 00:57:21 i was writing about like being into other people when i felt like i couldn't or shouldn't or whatever you know i think i right did a good job at masking that a little bit um but at the same time like once i was out i was kind of like all right what i'm going to talk about now it was like definitely fueled the the writing fire for me. Right. A little bit. Right, right, right. Okay. So now we just write about being really gay. Or I do. Oh, really? Krylon writes about doing women's hairs and nails.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Which isn't gay. Not at all. Not a gay thing to do. Not a gay thing at all. Oh, you're talking about me? No. No, no, no. A different Krylon.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Or your gal. Yeah, well, that's all I got. I mean, thanks for coming over, you guys. Anything you want to talk about? Wow. What do you want to talk about? I don't know. I just heard your life story.
Starting point is 00:58:18 That's awesome. Yeah. Things I never heard about him. Really? Yeah. Maybe. Yeah, a lot of my work right now it's i'm almost done school which has been gonna be amazing when you stop answering text messages during our podcast josh
Starting point is 00:58:32 because i thought you were listening to me that's great dave anyway good game you know what good for you man my girlfriend comes back with her dog soon no um i'm sorry i didn't mean to be rude i'm totally kidding um i don't know it's like it to me it's become like a bit like with this project i think it's really important to sort of like create safe spaces for queer youth and to it not being about like i mean we kind of double dutch this is what we do i think we promote a lot of like really fun energy and not yeah super like you know uber raunchy or uber right it just seems like sort of like a party is what you shows want to be kind of like over the top yeah exactly like really into just like good music and high fashion and shit like that and
Starting point is 00:59:13 it's it's nice to do that um and kind of create that energy for for like younger folks because i think for me growing up in a place like in annapolis i felt super silenced and kind of like alone so it's like I had. Yeah. For me, I was like I either had to abandon ship where I was and even in the project to kind of be out. Yeah. I chose not to for a while. Well, that sucks, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And then you moved to San Francisco. You found the only other gay guy. The only. I mean, I'm sorry. Other hairdresser. There you go. Me and the hairdresser. I'll come out.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Oh, my God. Man, this podcast got to get so many downloads. Exclusive. Cry a lot out on the podcast. Oh, my God. Man, this podcast has got to get so many downloads. Exclusive. Cry a lot comes out. Exclusive. It's pretty tough. Yeah. There's so much more material to write now.
Starting point is 00:59:54 We both are gay. Right. Do you know what I mean? I already have a couple of journals that we can add to the pod. Whoa. Girl. Oh, snap. Let's do a follow-up.
Starting point is 01:00:03 It's time we're in town. Keep rolling. Are you a Leo? What's Keep rolling Are you a Leo? What's that? Are you a Leo? Mm-mm You look like a Leo or a Sagittarius Getting closer Closer? Scorpio?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Mm-mm Rolls his eyes Scorpios aren't supposed to be funny But you're hilarious Oh thank you Scorpios aren't supposed to be funny? I don't know You said it was such a conviction you're like i don't fucking know i don't know yeah this one does know a lot about the signage signages i don't know anything what's dave dave's aries
Starting point is 01:00:38 he's a fire sign water sign i know that fire that. Fire sign. Look at that. He does a lot. I know that stuff. My girlfriend's an Aries. Oh, nice. I'm a fire sign? You didn't know that about yourself? I didn't. So I find it interesting when people are like, oh, I'm a water sign. I want to live by water.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Where am I supposed to live? Am I supposed to live someplace that's hot? Yeah. Is that what I mean? That's why you're here in this humid office. It's true. Yeah. It brought me here.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah, it was destiny that brought you here. It's your horoscope. I'm like this hot-ass office. Yay. I need some heat. Yeah. It brought me here. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, it was destiny that brought you here. It's your horoscope. I'm like this hot-ass office. Yay. I need some heat. Yes, exactly. Maybe I am destined to live in New Orleans. New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:01:13 New Orleans. New Orleans. What are you? I'm a Libra. Libra. So that's an air sign. Air. Well, we're doing pretty good.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Steve, what are you? I'm a Cancer. Ah, that's also a water. Also a water, right, Krylon? Cancer, yeah. It's supposed to be the unspoken zodiac astrological sign of Earth. Unspoken? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:37 That's why you've been a little quiet. That's why he's so far from the mic. Most signs have planets that connect to them. Yeah, I have Mars and Pluto, but not anymore. Thanks, scientists. Bummer. And Obama. Sure, he's to blame.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah, he is. Yeah. Something cool had to happen when he was... Yeah, what do you think about him, like, slowly be like, I support gay marriage. Like, to to me it seemed very calculated like he had other people in his staff kind of the week before kind of gauge what people were going to do and they're just like yeah we support it what do you guys think well it's a card that really hasn't been played before yeah yeah so even if it is calculated, it's still a card. So just in that whole realm of political vomiting,
Starting point is 01:02:33 I think that I support him. You know what I mean? I totally support him. I mean, it took him a while to pull that card out of his butt, but eventually he did. Well, at least he pulled it out of his butt it was kind of a sign of solidarity i guess yeah i think if anything it's any movement towards that direction obviously is is good yeah and i think any nothing in politics is non-calculated do you know what i mean that's a good point yeah that's why i don't really love politics at all. Because I don't really think they really actually deal with the real things that are going on.
Starting point is 01:03:08 No. Grandstanding. It's a sign of hope that's really not real. Yeah. God, I just took it down. Yeah. All right. Let's talk more about horoscopes.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. But I think it's cute. I think it's cute. I mean, if he doesn't win, he's the first to sort of fully back it, which that's kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to see him get another term if he doesn't win, he's the first to sort of fully back it, which that's kind of cool. Yeah, yeah. I would like to see him get another term, and hopefully he can have a little more balls in his second term. Mostly, I just want the Supreme Court justice.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I think most of those guys are getting pretty old, so it would be nice to have him on watch when he appoints those people, especially with all the crazy stuff that's moving along to the Supreme Court. True story. Like corporations are people and stuff, which is pretty fucking nuts. It's ridiculous is what it is. Yeah. It's totally ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Absolutely. Do you speak any other languages? No. Why? I just wanted to know. That's one of my favorite questions to ask Americans. Oh. Are you American?
Starting point is 01:04:04 I am. I was born in San Diego. But raised all over the... Okay, yeah. You said you spent time in Germany? I was in Germany for eight years. Do you speak German? I do speak German. Alright, say I love Go-Gurt in German. Ich liebe Go-Gurt. Yes. That'll be the ad that we run
Starting point is 01:04:20 all the time. So we got soundcheck soon, yeah? What time is it? I'm just kind of hungry, you know what I'm saying? We run all the time. So we got soundcheck soon, yeah? And I'm just kind of hungry, you know what I'm saying? You want some Oreos and peanuts? I know, I know. You want me to put peanuts in the Oreo? I think he wants to drop the Oreos and just have the penis.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I meant peanuts, excuse me. Good one. That's been a joke of the week. With all this gay innuendo, I would have thought you guys were gay. This is weird. Nope. Just a hairdresser. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah. And that's not weird anymore. It's extraordinary. Just in general? Yeah. It's just extraordinary. Yeah, we've got to drop the word weird out of the vocabulary. It ostracizes people who are a little bit off into a specific group like Island and Misfit Toys. So I try to say extraordinary as much as I can.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Okay. Do you know what I mean? It's a little bit above ordinary. Yeah, it doesn't have the negative connotation. Yeah, I've been hanging out in Portland a lot. I feel like I'm in Portland. I just want to say that. Portland is so PC.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Is that really how it is? Yeah, it's terrible. Is Portlandia basically a documentary? It could be. It totally is. But San Francisco is not that much different. Really? is it's like it's terrible it's portlandia basically a documentary it could be yeah totally but san francisco is not that much different really yeah yeah there was a i don't really want to get into that hey break it down break down san francisco or whatever you were about to say there was a big old argument about this party that wanted to have cinco de mayo
Starting point is 01:05:43 because their party fell on Cinco de Mayo. And they're like, oh, we don't want to call it Cinco de Mayo because we don't want a bunch of like, you know. Filthy Mexicans. Wow, Josh. Oh, sorry. I was just finishing your sentence. We don't want a bunch of cultural appropriation is what I was saying.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh, okay. Sorry. You say cultural appropriation. I was like, tomato racism. So they were going to call it pico de gallo to be fun. Yeah, I get it. And it got slammed by so many
Starting point is 01:06:16 people because they thought it was insensitive. It was hard French. And little do they know that half of the people that throw hard French are brown people themselves. And little do they know that half of the people that throw hard French are brown people themselves. I was a little retarded. I mean, gosh, you can't say retarded either. It's a little extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah. You look like you felt good saying that. Yeah, I did. I was just trying that on for the first time. Hey, it fits great. You look very comfortable saying it. Extraordinary. Extraordinary. Extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Is it anywhere like that? And here in, where are we again? Baltimore. Baltimore. Baltimore. You know, we've been everywhere. Oh, yeah? We were just in Philly.
Starting point is 01:06:59 It was my first time there. And, you know, I'm from the West Coast, and I lived in Germany. So I have no idea where I'm at half the time, you know i'm from the west coast and i lived in germany so i have no idea where i'm at half the time you know yeah i guess baltimore kind of looks like philly a little bit too well i think it was more about um the the general energy of baltimore okay like kind of gave me a a little bit of a philly energy. You know what I mean? But who knows what I'm talking about? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:28 I'm trying to follow. I'm trying. You're only about like an hour away too. I feel like if you're going to the West Coast, it's like at least like halfway through the trip, you're like in the car for four hours. You're like, where are we going again? It's like you remember by the time you get there.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah, yeah. You're in a Philly. You're like, oh, we're here. All of a sudden you're like, stop to get a Slurpee and you're like oh we're in philly already free slurpees today really 7-eleven's giving them away free slurpees yeah cancer's love slurpees it was so hot is that what the deal was no i'm not sure i think it's like a rita's deal or they give away free rita's at like the beginning i don't i saw a bunch of ads on
Starting point is 01:08:14 words with friends today about free slurpees and then somebody else give away on 420 you know slurpees i don't know how 7-elevens in germ Germany work There is no 7-Elevens in Germany However, there are in Scandinavia What? What are they called? 7-Elevens Alright Scandinavian
Starting point is 01:08:33 That should be your next My next voyage Yeah, your next I'm going to start a travel log You're like, I went to St. Louis and it was cool Yeah And now you went to Scandinavia to 7-Elevens Yeah, like where's their arch?
Starting point is 01:08:45 You could be like, what do Scandinavians call Slurpees? I'm going to find out. That sounds gross. Doesn't it? This has been real. It's been extraordinary, guys. It's been extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I love how you incorporated that into your... Thank you. Thank you very much. Anytime. Thank you. And I love that you've been doing that with your nose all... Actually, I just, I think I have, like, the world's fastest growing nose hairs and they always are itching me. And I communicate telepathically all the time, so
Starting point is 01:09:17 it's, like, it's good. I know how that feels. Yeah. I have the world's fastest growing... That's all the time we have. No, finish. It's so funny. I hate how Scorpios can read to me like that. I was with a Scorpio for five and a half years.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah. And he, I mean, she. Whoa. It's a good thing I can edit this in post. Holy shit. You guys are going to lose can edit this in post. Holy shit. You guys are going to lose all your fans when they find this out. They're really gay. What?
Starting point is 01:09:51 It's not an act. The guy's covered in glitter again. In the booty shorts with the high pumps. Well, at least I'm in pumps. I don't wear pumps. I'm like really buff and I'm in pumps. And that's called a butch queen up in pumps. A butch queen up in pumps.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Is that what it's really called? That's exactly what it's called. What are they called, butch queen up in pumps in Scandinavia? Extraordinary. Oh.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Yeah, click on the draw. Where's the applause button for that one? That was like an applause you did like the horror sound like more like what was that is it Friday the 13th
Starting point is 01:10:32 yeah I think it's like in every horror movie alright well you guys have been generous with your time thanks for coming by yay
Starting point is 01:10:39 see you Josh doubleduchess.com doubleduchess.com hey girl it was on iTunes. It was on the old iTunes. Tons of YouTube videos. You guys are on the Facebooks and the Twitters.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Facebooks, like us. We'll find out when we're coming up next and what's going on with us moment by moment. We're on Twitter. It's DoubleDutchess1. Okay. I kind of forgot to get rid of that one. And it's D-U-C-H-E-S-S. D-U-C-H-E-S-S because some people will do D-U-T-C-H-E-S-S.
Starting point is 01:11:07 So if you see a lot of bitches jumping rope, that's not us. That's not us. I was a bit surprised when you guys didn't show up with jump ropes. So. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm glad that's covered. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:18 All right. So. They're not really gay and they don't jump rope. Right. Yeah. And Go-Gurt. Out. No.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I think we wrapped it up. Oreos, no good. Right. And go good. Out. No. I think we wrapped it up. Oreos, no good. Nine. English, please. Wait, you want nine Oreos? No, no. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ doesn't eat Oreos.
Starting point is 01:11:37 In my Bible, he does. It was sponsored by Oreos. Nabisco. He turned. Yeah. Yeah. Ding. Okay. No Illuminati jokes, people.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Well, now you're going to limit most of our. Great. All right. Next time. Well, yeah. Thanks, Dave. It was good seeing you too, man. Steve, nice meeting you.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Next time, don't talk so much. Krylon. Oh, you remembered my name. Nice meeting you. I was worried that I was going to say it wrong. Is it Krylon? Is that how you say it? Is that your actual name? It's remembered my name. Nice meeting you. I was worried that I was going to say it wrong. Is it Krylon? Is that how you say it? Is that your actual name?
Starting point is 01:12:07 It's my rebirth name. Okay. So that's a no. Well, it's my rebirth name. Rebirth? Yeah. Okay. It's a rebirth.
Starting point is 01:12:15 When's your rebirth day? Consciousness into a new conscious. Ah. December 24th. Oh. Before Jesus came to the earth and gave everyone Oreos. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:28 All right. That's what I'm making. That's why he doesn't like Oreos. Who? That's why he doesn't like Oreos. Oh, too close. That's why I don't like Jesus. He's been stealing my Oreos since the dawn of time.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Really? Oh, bitch. I can't stand that anymore. The guy has everything and he just wants more. That Jesus Christ. All right. Well, Dave, Steve, Kylan, thank you for joining me. Thanks, Josh. Thanks, Josh. All right. that or the guy has everything and he just wants more that jesus christ all right well dave steve kyle thank you for joining me thanks josh all right so i guess it all worked out in the end two and a half times on the same space shuttle who would have thought

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