The Dividend Cafe - That Last Dollar on the Table
Episode Date: April 14, 2023Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/4018FUN This is a unique Dividend Cafe but one that I think will have something for everybody. It speaks to a mentality and a framework that has more than just econo...mic ramifications. It was inspired by a conversation I had with my wife on Wednesday night about some other things, and as our conversations often do, led to another track that led to another track that led to this inspiration for Dividend Cafe. At the end of the day, investor behavior will always be the primary determinant of investor outcomes. And investor behavior is deeply tied to how one views the “last dollar on the table.” In fact, even outside of one’s investing life, their view of the “last dollar on the table” is likely to be highly relevant to the outcomes and experiences one will have. One might even argue the “last dollar on the table” is the most expensive dollar one could ever pursue – financially and otherwise. Let’s jump into the Dividend Cafe. Links mentioned in this episode: TheDCToday.com DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com
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Welcome to the Dividend Cafe, weekly market commentary focused on dividends in your portfolio
and dividends in your understanding of economic life.
Well, hello and welcome to the Dividend Cafe.
I am recording from a land far, far away.
I have left New York City.
We'll be back in California this weekend.
But in the meantime,, have penned a really
interesting Dividend Cafe this morning, and I want to tell you why it's a little bit different.
My wife and I were having dinner last night. We're having a conversation. It starts going
down one track to another. It brings up a subject, and then all of a sudden I found a kind of application or utility that I was
inspired to bring to you here in this Dividend Cafe podcast.
You're going to have to bear with me a little bit because I need to connect some dots that
are going to provide, I believe, a very important, practical, and lasting investment application.
application, but I want to start by sort of setting up a critique of a concept. It is a character deficiency at times. It is a personality at times, but it's a concept that I refer to as the last
dollar. The notion that in a particular transaction that someone is fighting and scratching and clawing for the very last dollar on the table.
And if you, like me, have been a part of a lot of business negotiations over the years, you may relate to it instantly because there's so many things that could be relevant in this to when one is buying and selling a business and so
forth. I've been a part of a lot of transactions myself, and I've obviously been a part of advising
on a lot of transactions. But even if that is not your world and there isn't any relevance to your
business selling it or buying it or something like that, a lot of people have bought a home, a lot of people have sold a home, and even just hiring
somebody or basic day-to-day transactions, I'm referring to a mentality, a mentality that is
what I would consider overly zealous of capturing the last dollar. And this is not a critique of somebody looking out for their own interest. It
is not a critique of self-interest, of zealous representation, of looking out for your family,
looking out for what is your scenario. I completely defend and quite candidly have devoted my life
to defending the free society in a market economy. There is no part of what I'm saying right now
that has to do with just voluntarily being a doormat. What I'm referring to is something that is very uncomfortable for a
lot of people, which is the fact that the reason the book of Proverbs was written in the Bible
is that there's a lot of gray in between black and white, and that not everything in a transaction
is as binary as that's mine and that's yours and there will be no in between. There is a particular approach that is not just humble and soft and whatnot.
Those things can be really good.
But what I'm getting at is intellectually aware of the fact that getting that perfect deal where you capture the last dollar is generally something only known in the rearview mirror.
So therefore, an exorbitant amount of energy and effort and emotional attention is given to that
which cannot even be known anyways. So I don't necessarily make a karma argument against obsessing over the last dollar. I make an empirical argument that in the
pursuit of the last dollar, one can lose a lot of dollars, that deals can fall apart. The most
common thing I think that many people relate to is when the seller of a home couldn't
get to a price on real estate that was very emotionally important to them.
And then they end up selling for much less than that later or perhaps not at all.
I joke in the written Dividend Cafe this week that one day I would write a book about the
amount of things I have heard from clients over the years about
value of their real estate relative to what subsequently happened or didn't happen.
And all six of the people who would read that book would be quite enlightened.
These things happen a lot with real estate. But see, in that case, it sounds like I'm just saying,
oh, you mean I might obsess over the last dollar and it turns out I was unrealistic and I take less dollars later. Well, that's certainly one outcome that
could happen. It's not good, but I'm referring to more than that. And I look at kind of like
the more institutionalized aspect of capital markets. An example came up more recently where
so many people have gone to the CMBS market for commercial real estate lending.
That's the commercial mortgage-backed securities.
It can be much cheaper than bank lending or some form of relationship lending.
And one can save 200, 250 basis points in borrowing costs.
It's a lot of money.
And then all of a sudden they invite certain covenants, conditions, inflexibilities, contracts, a lack of relationship that could be
very beneficial. Maybe it's worthwhile, maybe it isn't. But my point is the last dollar mentality
keeps one from having a holistic pragmatism in the way that they engage those thought processes.
As our company, as alternative investors have grown
more and more in the private credit space, we've sat down with some of the real premier asset
managers that are doing more and more in middle markets lending, the direct lending space,
and have been intrigued as more borrowers up market have begun to come to the private market
space versus the high yield bond market or the
syndicated bank loan market. And I've asked, why are they coming? They're paying 200, 300 basis
points more. And you realize, well, no, they're looking past the borrowing cost and squeezing the
last dollar for the ability to transact quickly, the ability to transact without visibility,
the sort of privacy and opacity could be important. Maybe for strategic advantages,
for relational, for intellectual capital, let's say. There's various things that could matter.
And in the grown-up world, that is a consideration. Cost is always one of them as
well. But what I am talking about is a mentality in your day-to-day transactions that is holding
on so tight to what you perceive the last dollar to be that it could lead to poor decision-making.
And it isn't so much greed-driven. It can be, but I think it's fear driven. And I think fear often is really the predicate to a lot of greed. I'll save that discussion for another day.
What does this have to do with you as a regular investor? Well, I think that a holding on to last
dollar mentality is first of all, very often really the predicate to FOMO, the fear of missing out investing,
that says I have to be in whatever the latest fad shiny object of the day is.
These kind of WeWorks and Theranos and high profile blowups of the last decade or so.
We've seen this crypto thing last year and people that couldn't
get themselves take money off the table. But those that don't have a propensity for shiny object
investing, what about just disciplined asset allocation? What about rebalancing? Isn't it by
definition a form of repudiation of last dollar mentality.
By definition, if I have a stock that is going to be 3% of the portfolio
and it goes up and up and it's now 5% or 6%,
if I believe it's at imminent risk of collapsing,
well, then why would we even trim it back down to 3%?
We would probably sell the
whole thing, right? And yet, if I believe it's going to go higher, why sell at all? By definition,
rebalancing back to target weight is neither a call that you think it's about to be a disaster,
because if it was, you'd sell all, or a call that, no, no, it's going to the moon because
you wouldn't want to sell any. What it is is a forfeiture, a surrender of the last dollar. I think it is going to go higher. I'm leaving money on the
table by trimming these gains, but I'm doing it for the greater good of risk mitigation,
of rebalancing to a volatility profile that's comfortable. Because when I don't do that, and bad things
happen, and my volatility exceeds my comfort level, then I'm prone to act even worse,
and other bad things can happen. So there's a discipline to it that does not work when you're
squeezing on for the last dollar. There are so many examples of where this mentality can go wrong
in investing. I just wanted to focus on a couple of the major ones.
But I guess I would really tell you, I don't think today's talk and the Dividend Cafe I wrote is limited to just the subject of our personal investing lives. as economic actors, as people that are buyers or sellers, that are investors, that could be
a part of any number of transactions, the way in which we engage, I don't think someone has to be
a doormat or a sucker. I think someone could be a very rigorous, attentive, economic, self-interested
person, and at the same time, get rid of the utter silliness that is squeezing for
the last dollar. Being willing to leave the last dollar on the table often can make you more
dollars than you ever thought possible. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Thanks for
reading The Dividend Cafe. Look forward to being back with you from California next week.
Take care.
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