The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 245 - The Gentleman's Riot

Episode Date: February 23, 2017

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Boston's Gentleman's Riot. SOURCESTOUR DATESREDBUBBLE MERCH

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podcast. Each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history in both Spanish and English to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic will be about... Senor. Hmm? Si. Si. To you as well. Hola. Ocho. Tortuga. A me gusta basketball. Leche. Ah. Ah. Si, si, si. Si. Hola. Senors. God, do you want to look who to do? I'll do one bottle. People say this is funny. Not Gary Gareth. Dave, okay. Someone or something is tickling people. Is it for fun? And this is not gonna come to tickle you quite, Gary. Okay. You are queen fakie of made-up town. All hail Queen Shit of Liesville. A bunch of religious virgins go

to mingle. And do what? Pray. Hi, Gary. No. I see you've done, my friend. No. No. We were just talking and we're putting out there that we, um, be any, I don't know if there are any female underwear companies. I don't think this is. That, uh, listen, but we are willing to wear female underwear, uh, as, uh, you know, let it, to let you know. All right. I think we can. How good it feels if you want to advertise on this show. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. So that's a soft plug. 1840s. Okay. New England. Sure. As the anti-slavery movement ratcheted up, so did the pro-slavery reaction. As to be expected. What else is gonna happen? Look, the pendulum swings. It went like this. Slavery's bad.

The hell it is. It was, it was their taste great, less filling. People who weren't born before the 80s? Uh, no. Uh, no. Probably people who were born, I mean, late 80s, 90s, for sure. I have no idea what that is. Yeah. Uh, the Northeast had a very different life than the South when it came to blacks living in society. Okay. Uh, in Boston, the anger at slaves being freed was directed toward white abolitionists, not blacks. Okay. Wow. That is. It makes sense because they're, they're shockingly mature. Yeah, it actually is. They're actually, they're mad at the people who are actually enacting the change as opposed to the people who are affected by the change, which is not very American. Yeah. No, I think I've made this

reference before, but it's a little like Jerry Springer when a guy's seeing two girls and the other girl comes out and she beats up the other girl. Right. It's like beat up the guy. The guy's the issue. Yeah. Uh, so for the most part, Yankee commoners didn't interact with blacks in their daily lives, so there really wasn't much anger towards black, black people living in the sit in a city like Boston. Okay. Right. By the 1840, you can put it wherever you want. No, I just saw yours is there and I didn't know if there's a. We can both have a drink on the table. Look at the table. Dude, this is what happens when you have it. Why? Just keep going. Like, like this table you can't put a drink on? Look, I don't, you think

I, look, to me, that could be some sort of like someone's like, Oh yeah, it was like naturally the ocean gave it this contour. And then I put my drink on it. You're like, ah, coasters. Uh, I would rather have ruined tables than, I hate coasters. Coasters. If you're a coaster person, honestly, I know, come on, come on. Uh, just get a table. It's not that great. Yeah. Because it's life. You don't be putting your fucking drinks out and move on to table. That's what I think too. When like, like, when my car gets a ding, I'm not like, I'm going to go get that buffed out. Like I'm the guy who's at a stoplight and people are like, Hey man, for a hundred bucks, I'll fix that. And I'm like, no, I'm

okay. Unless those guys don't do a good job. Are you sure? It is weird that a guy who pulls up at a McDonald's, uh, in a parking lot actually can't do a good job fixing your car. My, uh, my buddy fell for it once in a parking lot. It fucking ruins your car. Oh, they put cement in there sometimes. The real, I was trying to pick up the pay. Sure. So by the 1840s, Boston was actually a stop on the underground railroad to Canada. Okay. Uh, but that was just the common working man or the lower class guy. The real resistance to abolitionism came from the elites of the city, conservative merchants who just wanted to keep their commercial ties with the Southern States. They were called the cotton wigs. It's weird that, that, that

the rich capitalists are lacking morality, but that's, this is a rare case. Well, yeah, I mean, but anyone who's against it, those are hired people. Right. Yeah. Uh, there were also conscience wigs who were mostly conservative. Who took acid. Okay. Conservatives, ministers, and merchants who saw slavery as a great evil that should not be done to man. So people with a conscience. Okay. People with a soul. Okay. Uh, money versus morals, essentially. The two groups battled back and forth politically, but they did not take any of this out on the black population. These elites were men who controlled the city government. So when they had a fracture, it was far more difficult to get their way than it was when it was just

poor versus rich. Right. As it should be. Right. Yes. We all agree. And slavery was exactly such a problem. Though rioting was seen as a lower class way of acting out, the elites also would use riots if it suited their needs. Okay. So they would talk shit about rioting and be like, Oh, the polls are right here again. Oh, look at them. The polls are upset again. And then at some time they'd be like, Oh, that's all for a hat. We need to riot because we're right. It's the right riot. Throw your hat. Throw your hat. And your glove. Everyone hit them with feathers. Come on. Oh, throw a daisy at them. That'll show them. Can you go daisies in the air? No. I'm lightheaded again. Hey, there is happening. Oh, I must

lay down. I've got the vapors. If they couldn't get what they wanted by politics or the law, they would use what can be described as direct action, also known as violence. So when the elites thought there was an immediate danger to the republic that could not be resolved by politics, they would borrow the act of rioting from the lower classes. Interesting. Right. Doing away with the slaver was exactly such an issue. They saw it as too revolutionary and a threat to the order of things. You can't have the order of things screwed up even if it's slavery. Like you said, moral versus money. But that is the, I mean, that's just obviously very similar. I wish there, thankfully this is all over. In the case the local

papers controlled by the elites would write about how it was okay to riot in this particular instance. Right. In this circumstance rioting makes sense. There's an asterisk. I have a point to make. Yes. People would like to not own people and for that we should take to the streets and break windows. Yes. Now think about how much our workload will double without this. I will have to pay people prices more for things. I'm getting lightheaded again. I'm having one of my spells again. I must lay down. How much will my cotton products cost? Double. We should own people. I mean, that's really what it is. Yeah. It's if you now if you really think about it, it's selfish. So also a wig like a white one of those white wigs may as well be like a KKK robe.

I mean, those I mean, obviously there's a splinter faction in this party of ministers and but no, yeah, but the the fancies. Yeah, the fancies. Papers who would scold the lower classes for rioting would suddenly change their tune and write quote, if there is no law that will reach it, it must be reached with some other way. Hey, whatever, man. You know, that's how laws work. Yep. Yep. In the 1820s, during the anti free Mason movement, the elites used riots to prevent anti Mason meetings organized by the lower classes. Okay. And these riots would become worse and more frequent when it came to the issue of slavery. The riots would be carried out by

quote, gentlemen of property and standing. Yeah, white men. Okay, these were doctors, lawyers, merchants, bankers, judges and congressmen. They said getting rid of slavery was a quote amalgamation of the races they believed in traditional values. But is is that even true? Isn't it more that they like I'm sure that that's part of it. Oh, the traditional values part. Yeah, isn't it more that it's like they need slavery because that's it keeps the prices. Yeah. Just like it's I mean, I bet that's how you can make an argument to the public. But I obviously like the top priorities like I don't want to lose any money. Right. Yeah, it's all it's about money. It's a good it's a common talking and then they

wrap it in the traditional values rhetoric. Yeah, it isn't talking to God this morning and he was really upset that someone shook a black man's hand traditional values. Are you married before you put it in a lady and you own the black people. I'm like, hit it again. This is the environment in which William Lloyd Garrison founded the New England Anti-Slavery Society in Boston in 1831. Okay, Garrison was the publisher of an abolitionist paper The Liberator. Okay, right on the nose. Yep. He went straight for the Liberator. Right. Yeah, it's good. After this, other societies were formed in other states. And the National Society in Philadelphia after 1833. So now they're going national with this shit. Okay, blowing it out. These societies popped up

all over the place, sometimes at the rate of one a day. And somehow 1000 some had 1000s of members. Wow. So it's blowing up right slavery is the fucking happening right. Also, if you're a poor white guy, you don't want slavery because slavery. Yeah, jobs. Yeah. Yeah, right. Garrison. Yeah, yeah. Garrison was a very gift. And yet you still had white guys being like, it's not right. All right, some day I'm gonna own a slave. Yeah, it's like, no, no. Yeah, that's a curl out of my mud hut. That is totally like the that is the mentality of this country, though. It's like, man, you know what's messed up? We got to change this. I need slaves to it's like, no, no, no. No. So Garrison was a very gifted public speaker and could really spread a message and therefore

he became a threat to quote, traditional values of owning slaves. That was a quote. Sure. That was a quote from a human. Cool guy. In 1833 in New York, when Garrison was at a meeting to organize an anti slavery society, the anti abolitionists decided to hold their own pro slavery demonstration at the same location. Okay. So they double booked it awkward. Oh, no, we have this spit, we, we've already been setting up chairs. When did you but I booked this through Lou? I booked it through Lou. When did you book it over two months ago? I've been planning this for ages over three months ago. No, Debbie's made a whole look. We're not leaving. Oh, I don't talk to women. Oh, well, now I know whose side is whose.

Um, so, so he's at, so he's at this meeting and having two months to having two meetings in one location led to what you would think no meeting taking place, which is exactly what they intended. Right. Right. So they double looked at it for, yeah, right. The courier and inquirer as well as other respected papers of the time. The inquirer. Yeah. Okay. I'm sure it's spelled with the right. Or maybe it's the courier and inquirer. Maybe it's the same. Okay. Cause the inquirer was back then and it was like, we're legitimate news. It's like at some point, some lunatic cokehead came in and he's like, nah, man, we're going to talk about boob jobs and cellulite.

Do you see Michael Douglas' face lately? It looks like a catcher's mitt. Run that on page one. That's a good, that's a good story though. It's not great. So they attacked Garrison. The elites were not down with it. These anti abolitionist, anti abolitionist attacks were becoming more and more common in an 1831 in Connecticut. Prudence Crandall allowed the first black student into her school, which up until that point had been all white. Okay. And she was a Quaker and the white parents pulled all their daughters out of the school. So she then, instead of giving in to what they were trying to do, she established a school for black girls. That is, that is what, that's such an amazing bluff call. Yeah. We're pulling out all of our children.

All right. It's a black school. What? Yeah. Have a good life later. No, we were. We were. Get out of here. No, get out of here. Hey, get out of here. Garrison advertised the school in the Liberator and black families started sending their daughters from out of state to get an education. Okay. Well, this was a bit much for the town. Why? They first protested at the school then started holding town meetings to figure out what to do about the quote nuisance. Uh-huh. They do have it's it's at least the language isn't as racist as I'm used to. It seems like I don't want to give them any I don't want to give them any gold stars, but I mean, they're not you've been in New England. They're very into their fucking I would say New England now is maybe

more racist than them. She was then cast out of all the local churches and shops. So this woman is now Prasada, non grata in the town, right? Okay. The state then passed the state. Sure. Instead of the town, the state then passed a black law which allowed them to refuse to give the girls anything. So they passed a law saying that they didn't have to supply the girls with things like food and clothing. Okay. No one would sell them items in shops. Stagecoach drivers would not drive them and doctors would not help them if they were sick. Cool. Because doctors, you know, you take that oath. Well, except for black people. Yeah. I took the oath for helping whites. Yeah. The white oaths. The Crandor the Crandles. Well, so the well at the school was filled with

cow shit. Huh? Well, which is bad. Can you drink that or water? Oh, okay. I can drink it. But I I'm a steel man. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah, I appreciate it. I can drink anything. All right. And so no one would give her water. So that's cool. Yeah, that's that is cool. Somehow that's also I mean like cash it in your well, like, that's a I mean, that's just like, like, I mean, we were just saying like I was like five minutes late because I walked out of my apartment today and I stepped in dog shit. And I was like, I was almost dropped to my knees like the bad guy who got you know, like someone got away from him like shit. But then imagine your well, you're like, this is and the fact that they had to bring the cow and hang his ass over exactly.

It's gonna lie to cows. All right, guys. So the town was becoming more and more angry because Prudence Crandall continued on with her school even through all this. She's like work. Yeah, we're fucking educating these kids. They're like, they've lost 50 pounds each. And she's like, okay. Everybody get a glass of water. Okay, today this state capitals. The windows drink your shitwater girls. Come on, we're gonna fight this. Come on. The windows of the school began to be be smashed regularly. And filth was smeared all over the school. Geez. So they're they're bringing it. After they finally failed to have the school closed through legal means,

the town then set it on fire. Okay, sure. That's probably a tough one to come back from school was then closed in September of 1934. So so you know, New England. Yeah, liberal New England. Yeah, baby steps in Boston abolitionists were excluded for from the Anthinium Library. Okay. The that's where that's that's your library. Yeah, right. The Reverend Dr. Leonard Bacon. Sorry, the Reverend Dr. Leonard Bacon, the Reverend Dr. Bacon. That's correct. And this is a pig with a suit on. I don't know his physical. This is swine in a bishop's outfit. I don't know his physical situation. All right, everybody gather round. He called abolitionist political candidates political desperados still they're keeping it very yeah, political desperados. The American

Bible Society turned down a donation of $5,000 because it was supposed to be used to give Bibles to slaves. I mean, that's exactly what Jesus wanted. That's crazy. Like at that point, like, you don't want slaves to buy, you're supposed to convert every month. Yeah, like I'm like, like, yeah, I would never make the argument for like, get more Bibles and more pause. But my God, you're like, no, but they can't know it had to have been because they thought it would lead them to reading. Who is this God? Who is this God? He's not a great one. What is this deal? There's a lot of he sounds like a dude who sits in a lazy boy pounds beers and throws him at the TV when he's watching football. That's who he is. He just is like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're white.

Come in. Shut the window. Shut the window. A Harvard professor lost his chair because of his abolitionist beliefs. So he stood from then on. He stood from them. Publishers in the north made sure their books did not contain anything that would upset the pro slavery south. Okay. It still goes on today when you went into those books for schools and there there are a lot of schools that have evolution and creationism schools. I mean, why not? Well, they're like, okay, so there's one theory. Here's the other one. God's a bit of a baker. Okay, that was science. Magic time. All right, a little nutmeg. But the abolitionist continued. And throughout the North pro slavery riots broke out.

John Whittier gave an anti slavery speech in Concord and was then pelted by eggs and stones. I mean, like the guy who starts throwing the stones after two minutes of eggs like, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, come on, we're going to do eggs. Eggs are too expensive. Rocks is free. Right here by my feet. One of the stones badly wounded his leg. Then in August 1935, Southern are complained about the abolitionists and threatened to withdraw from the union. So Southerners were like, I don't know if you know what happened, but they ended up doing that. Really? It was actually 1835. Probably shouldn't have said 1935. But that is.

But yeah, I don't know if you know history, but eventually they it gets really hardcore and they leave. Yeah, some other stuff happened. Well, I'm not sure about the other stuff, but it's all it's it's like, that's like a drunk guy leaving the party like, but I'm out of here. You're like, get out. Okay, go. Thank you. For those pro Southern business elites in Boston. This was the ultimate nightmare, right? They don't want because that's money. Right. And they were embarrassed that Garrison was living in their city. He's living in the city, getting up to his people up to, you know, no good. Yeah. Not wanting other people, which means good. So no good in this time is good. Right. Generally,

up is down. So the pro slavery gentlemen decided to hold a pro slavery demonstration at, oh, here's a fucking word, the Newell Hall. Fanuel. Fanuel. Okay. To that, that's where I saw Bill Cosby host a taping of kids say the Darnedest Things. Oh boy, two things. Yeah, turns out Cosby did the Darnedest Things. So there they passed formal declarations supporting slavery. Many of Boston's prominent citizens were there like the mayor, Theodore Lyman and the current Lyman. Mayor Lyman. You can trust a Lyman. And the current leader of the Whig Party, Harrison Otis. It's rare you get a normal name. I mean, this is how abnormal the time is. Harrison Otis didn't even strike me as that crazy. A local paper. He's got a double name. A local paper wrote,

quote, we have never seen a larger or more respectable audience in the walls of the hall. They're so greatly pro-slavery. Wow. What a great group of guys. This was the environment in which Garrison brought George Thompson, an English abolitionist to speak in Boston to a meeting of women. Okay. So that's right. Already the pro-slavery crowd was upset that some foreign job would be interfering in American business. Oh, now, yeah. Here comes Pierce Morgan. Yeah. Sorry. Hello. I tapped the phones of... No, you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. As he just pushes buttons. Oh, he's awful. Thompson was to address the women at a hall next to the anti-slavery society in the Liberator offices. Oh, man. So this was a double offense. Not only was a foreign asshole coming

to talk about how slavery was bad, but he was doing it to women. To women. I know the idea. If you give them too much information, they'll forget the recipes. Thank you. Good Lord, sir. How can they make babies if they're thinking? Come on now. Immediately, the response to the announcement was for the pro-slavery forces to post signs all over Boston, which urged people to bring, quote, the infamous foreign scoundrel to the tar kettle before dark. Wow. Good Lord. So if I'm Mr. Foreign Gentleman, I'm out of there. Oh, kettle. What sort of tea is tar? I've never... Hello, I'm in it. Oh, it's hot. Oh, it's water. No, wait a moment. I just realized I'm dying. Sorry, I hate to be a stick in the mud, but my torso and below is gone. You're really burning me,

you are? He was described as Mr. Foreigner Thompson. I love that they put Mr.... Yeah, it's like a normal name for this time. Said a Foreigner Thompson. No, it's not Foreigner. Should we put Foreigner Thompson or Mr. Foreigner? Well, let's not be rude to the gentlemen. And so a couple of thousand men gathered in the street right when the meeting was supposed to take place. Royate when the meeting was about to take place. Royate. Fortunately, the Appalachianists knew the danger and Thompson was not brought to the site. The women, however, went on with their meeting while the hall and stairway of the building was filled with raging pro-slavery men. Oh, guys. The mayor, for his part, did actually try to stop what was happening

and tried to disperse them, but he could not. A State Representative said of the Mayor's interjection, quote, the mayor to put his chair down on the East three side of Washington Street and stood upon it and spoke warning the multitude that appeared threatened to depart their respective homes. The mayor then descended from his chair and departed. Okay. Well, say does everyone to go home? Go home. And he leaves. My work is done. I've done what I need to do. Chair out. But the mob was not about to give it. I can't believe that. It didn't work. But he was on the chair. I know. They broke through the door of the anti-slavery office. Fortunately, some constables pushed the upperclassmen out before anything happened to Garrison, who was sitting at his desk

writing a letter. Oh, wow. I am cool as a fucking. Yeah. Gentlemen, I'm writing a letter to my mommy. I wonder if he was even writing anything or if he was just wanted to like appear that he was just like that chilled out. Totally totally. Like if you looked at it, it would just be like butterflies. What are you doing? I'm just writing a letter. What's up with you assholes? The mayor then went to the ladies meeting. Okay. And ordered them to leave because he did not believe he could protect them from the mob. Okay. Well, so good. That shows that he really stands stands his ground on stuff. So they did two by two out the door. All right. Two by two because each woman exited with a black woman. Oh, wow. Oh,

shit. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Something tells me the guys are going to be cool with this. Now, maybe the mob didn't know black women were inside or maybe just the site of the white women walking out with them was too much, but they couldn't take it. Oh, God. Oh, God. The idea that a visual of this nature just sets them into just make you so mad. They're walking next to each other. It's worse than we thought. It's worse than we thought. When we emerged into open daylight, there went up a roar of rage and contempt. How will I get that off my Julie? Oh, I'm lightheaded again. They slowly gave way as we came out. As far as we could look either way, the crowd extended evidently of the so-called wealthy and respectable

the influence and standing. So it's all the rich assholes in town. Yeah. The Boston commercial Gazette would describe them as an assemblage of 1,500 or 2,000 highly respectable gentlemen. Yeah, it's fucking a lot of fucking rich respectable gentleman. The respectable gentleman gentlemen now shouted, Garrison, Garrison, we must have Garrison out with him. Lynch him. They also demanded that an anti slavery sign be taken down, which the mayor immediately did to try to quell things and they quickly destroyed it. Okay. The mayor took Garrison to the back of the building where he climbed out a back window onto a shed roof. He tried to hide in a carpenter's shop behind his office, but the respectable gentlemen were already out back.

Being respectable. Very respectable. So Garrison went upstairs. The workman in his shop kept the crowd back as much as they could, but the mob finally broke in. I feel like I should describe the mob because it's probably not what people have in their mind. No, no, no, it's a bunch of respectable gentlemen. These are rich guys. Quote, stout, thick set and powerful man. About 40 years old, all dressed in new, near blue, broad cloth suits as well as a multitude of neatly dressed young men. So it's like fucking Wall Street, right? It's just the worst. Finally, the rich guys could be held back, could not be held back any longer. They broke through the door, found Garrison and dragged him to the window. They were about to throw him out the upstairs

window. Jesus. When someone yelled, don't kill him outright. So they put a rope around him and took him down via a ladder. So they're going to fucking slowly kill them. Like that's the idea now. Well, they're thinking stuff through. They're like, don't kill him quick. We can do this slow because he doesn't want people to own other people there. How do you, how do you, how do you bridge that gap? It's a tough one, right? How do you bridge the gap of like, respect human life? Well, you know, yeah, I mean, like you, you're there. Garrison was rescued by two truckmen. They were brothers, Daniel and Buff Cooley. Whoa. Dude, you just called the Dan and Buff Cooley to the scene. You ready, Cooley? They were stronger and tougher than all the rich guys and took Garrison

back to the mayor, who now had several men to help him. You know, the guy was like, oh, don't kill him outright. Don't kill him outright. Now look, we don't get to kill him at all, you idiot. He's not dead. Now he's got the Cooleys with him. Don't kill him outright. He's got the Cooleys with him. Let's have fun with it. Buff is here now. They then put Garrison in the old state house while the crowd surrounded it. He had to be given clothes. Well, as he was now, quote, bareheaded and half-naked. Jeez. What, they ripped his hair out? No, his hat. Oh, just his hat. Oh, just his hat. Remember the whole hat thing? Oh, right. So they mentioned he's bareheaded. Like, that's like the first thing. Everyone was quite a scene. Bareheaded, naked,

stabbed 80 times, but man was his head bare. What if the women see him without a hat? I'm getting lightheaded again. If there's one thing from listening to dollops that you learn, it's the hat thing. That hats were insane. There's no way anybody else has covered this. I've never heard the hat thing. No. It's crazy. Hat pins, birds on the hats, the hat riots. It's straw. I mean, the straw hats. Remember when all those people died on the Brooklyn Bridge? Yeah. It was just litter with hats down below. And people were like, oh, my God. The mayor's group decided the only place they could keep Garrison safe was in the jail. So they arrested him on the charge that he, quote, did disturb and break the peace of the Commonwealth

and a riot did cause and make to the terror of the good people of the Commonwealth and against the peace and dignity of the same Jesus Christ. Just charging him with fucking disturbing the peace. Yeah. That's long. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to write a book about your charge. You're disturbing the peace with the charge. Meanwhile, the authorities of the city. Sorry, they're doing that to throw a bone to the anti abolitionists. No, they're trying to keep them safe. But why can't you just throw them in jail then? Why did they have to charge them? Because then it's like, I don't know. But I think it makes it like legitimate, like put them in. Maybe he didn't want to go. Maybe they just want to keep them safe. They put

them in jail. I think it's the right call. I mean, it is the right call. But I'm like, they're like, the only place safe for you is jail. So we're going to charge you with murder. Okay. Right this way. Just throw them in a cell. Yeah. But as long as they don't, as long as they don't press the charges, it's fine. Okay. Well, then make the charges fun. Murdering a giraffe. Okay. I mean, there's no giraffes in the city. So it doesn't matter. It's not going to get it's not going to. I highly doubt they found guilty. Highly doubt that's illegal. No, it's not. And it's hilarious and hang over three if you're a shitty writer. Meanwhile, the authorities of the city that got a little personal and weird, the legislature,

which was in session and many others came down to witness the insanity. Curiously, the situation was entirely being handled by the mayor. And Alderman said that, quote, though it was the duty of the mayor to put down the riot, the city government did not very much disapprove of the mob to put down such agitators as garrison and those like him. Right. So the city government's like fucking tear him up. Come on. He's not down with slavery. What immediate stopped it? The end of the New England galaxy heard a judge say, quote, I hope they will catch him and tar and feather him. And though I would not assist, I can tell them $5 are ready for the men willing to do it. So that's the judge. That's the law. Law of the land. Cool.

Just getting up in there. Yeah. Thing about judges is in our country, they've always impartial, pretty fucking impartial and sharp. The mayor had a carriage brought to the front of the building. But that one was a deception. Okay. Or a decepticon. Okay. Another carriage came around back. The rich guy mob did not fall for it. They rushed the back. They were 30 or 40 men lined up. I can see you've played carriage switcheroo before. There's 30 or 40 men lined up, which is hilarious because during the Boston busing this worked. Yeah. So they're getting stupider. Got all the tactics. So there's 30 or 40 men lined up on both sides of the steps to guard garrison. These were truckmen, like the teamsters of the day.

Okay. Right. So they're the, they're the fucking guys who are against slavery. Right. Not because who knows if it's about morality, but they're fucking jobs. Yeah. You don't want people working for free. Right. Again, we're a capitalist society. So that's how the lower classes against slavery. The mob, quote, rushed with great fury to break through the lines and seize garrison as he went from the old state house to the coach. But those men on each side stood firm and did not return, or in any way, notice the blows, which the merchants clerks dealt profusely at their heads and bodies. So it's just fucking rich guys. Move, you brute. Move. Move, you brute. Move. I'm exhausting myself hitting him with my glove. Move, you brute. Move.

I just see these guys laughing. And they're like hitting their heads. All right. All right. It's like getting hit by a saloon. It's like when a little dog is like jumping at your leg. You're like, okay, I'll look at you. Move. Their lines were kept firm. And the men did not break through. And after a fearful struggle, garrison got to the coach. Then an attempt was made to cut the harness. Of course, we want to cut the harness. At that moment, the coach driver cracked the whip and the horse was charged. The rich guys scattered to avoid being run over. Garrison was then taken to the jail and locked inside. Quote, William Lloyd Garrison was put into this cell. He wrote this on the jail wall. Okay. William Lloyd Garrison was put into

the cell on Wednesday afternoon, October 21, 1835 to save him from the violence of a respectable and influential mob who sought to destroy him for preaching the abominable and dangerous doctrine that all men are created equal at all oppression if odious in the sight of God. So yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's good. Yep. The next day, I like that he still calls him a respectable mob. Yeah. Well, I think it's a little bit sarcastic. I think it's a little tongue in cheek. The next day with just minor injuries, Garrison was freed and the charges were dropped. There you go. Okay. So he didn't kill that giraffe. Nope. While the upper class made up most of the mob, witnesses said there were also middle level employees there too. Middle class Protestants

had signed the pro slavery documents at the hall. It's so weird that Protestants would do that because of them. They're on the fucking right side of all the shit. Yeah, forever. The newspapers were largely supportive of the rich man's pro slavery riot. The Daily Advertiser wrote, quote, The whole transaction was the triumph of law over lawless violence. The Christian Watchman wrote that the abolitionists were as responsible as the mob. How they were there. They're trying to free because they started it with having a good point. Don't you see the one Boston newspaper wrote about the hypocrisy of wealthy men who had so many times condemned riots when committed by the poor now being part of a riot, quote, When a mob attacks the female members of the anti

slavery society, papers say it is a fine affair. A gentlemanly mob. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. George Thompson. They're just trying to place blame for who put cow shit in the well. That's right. Yeah. George Thompson dug the knife in a little bit saying, quote, Such a mob 30 ladies route and a six by two board demolished by 4000 men. None of this stopped garrison. And he wrote as much in the liberator attacking the pro slavery gentleman riot and that it just proved he was just from that on the Massachusetts anti slavery society would have a hard time finding a hall or church to meet it and ended up holding their gatherings in a staple. Okay. That's fine. Whatever. Yeah, wherever you know, it might be a little cold and whatever. Just just let you know who you're

fighting against. Yeah. The state legislature would eventually allow the group to see in the state to see in the state house. I don't know what that means. See in the state house maybe meet in the state house. Okay, right. When a hall was built in Boston just a couple years later, a militia would have to be called out to stop it from being burned. No militia was there to stop a pro slavery mob from burning down a hall in Philadelphia built for abolitionists. But hey, we would go to war and kill each other at an astonishing rate to keep slavery going. So this wasn't very much. Anyway, that was the north. All right, let's do in Spanish. Nothing like a who knew there were pro slavery riots? How cool is that? Yeah. Well, I mean, justice, my friend.

Yeah, pro slavery riots. Yeah, it's tough, man. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, good. Good. Better. Yeah. Well, we've had a couple of feel good ones. So it's good to sort of, but I don't know. It definitely doesn't feel like we're getting further away from that time. I think so much to take a poll to see how many people in America would now approve of slavery. And then we can get a real, yeah, real measure of what's going on today. Yeah, well, and also like, you know, again, I mean, you like, it's, it's the time you live in. So it's, you know, truly, like there's just multiple avenues of normalization for how these things seem okay. And even when you're in the world today, it's, it still seems like that seems like when

you hear reporting on stuff, you're just like, what, don't report, like do something more, like tell people no, like do something. It's like, all right. Well, very interesting. Um, yeah. Well, anyway, we sign a cars, we sign a cars. Okay, do a dollop podcast.com. That's our website. We don't have any other website, dollop podcast.com is our website. And if you want to send ideas, suggestions, you can send them to the dollop podcast at gmail.com. Uh, he's at Reynolds Gareth on Twitter and Instagram, Dave Anthony on Instagram. I'm Dave and Dave underscore Anthony underscore. We also have a dollop podcast, um, Instagram account, just dollop podcast, which is a lot of pictures of Jose. If that's what you're interested in.

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