The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 262 - Jack Johnson and The Great White Hope (live)

Episode Date: May 2, 2017

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Boxer Jack Johnson. Recorded live in Dallas, Texas. SOURCES TOUR DATES REDBUBBLE MERCH

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gonna win this name back ladies and gentlemen all right now you got a lot of naysayers I'm doing a town hall right now now you got a lot of naysayers out there it's gareth it's on my birth certificate with my foot print or some shit they do feet right now they do a little link of your foot little thing in my jiggy you guys remember Dave right dairy to some hi I'm Dave I thought you were doing your own show there for a second I just didn't you know it felt nice I know what was happening we apologize for the late start we had some technical difficulties Dave had to eat pasta I forgot to I forgot to he

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friend Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about also history researcher that deserves to be in there every other one doesn't it's glass this time I don't agree with that hey whoa hello that's my Jose March 31st 1878 are you just going from memory okay I just did I didn't you know it's not city specific I'm just in Texas so fucking deal with it okay good let's engage in that way I did I two Dallas ones but I had to do them before because I didn't have the last one done it's a whole fucking thing look I can't do seven

dollops in ten days or whatever it's I almost killed myself what a dollop that would be it's not supportive I'm talking ratings baby it sweeps we saw this dude driving down the freeway today on a motorcycle like he was a terminator he's smoking a cigar he had a cigar that he was smoking in his mouth we were like that he is Texas what's your name Don Texas my name is Don Texas I mean just a cigar just like it was nothing we would have both had sex with him we were both like this man I'm like this man is everything I'll pull over take me on the hood yeah what do you want our car your bike just cigar handle it how you want

to sir you're you are as real as real can be you're the topiest top I've ever seen ah we we wanted to go to a hardware store and buy chains to be like wear these wear these put these on you are a bounty hunter no matter what you say the best ah anyway what year 1878 year of our Lord Lord yep God bless him Jack Johnson was born in Galveston Texas okay he was the third child of nine and the son of ex-slaves okay so they got out of that yeah they got out of that racket yeah smart yep his father Henry worked as janitor and his mother Tina also known as tiny worked as a dishwasher also known as tiny that was

her nickname oh she was she was these dishes are big oh boy she was just gonna take all day just under 12 inches tall my 11 and a half inches his father served in the union's 38th colored infantry during the war he was five feet five inches tall and had an atrophied leg from a war wound and an atrophied I always thought of atrophy it's just like you know you just like let it sit too long it's for my legs asleep forever I got the pins and needles if you have I didn't move it once if you have nerve damage it just it just starts to kind of wither okay cool little little guy I'll just kind of I guess if you're gonna be

a janitor it's kind of a must in a way to have a withered leg some must some kind of eyepatch something missing in the for in the interview they're like what are you missing I don't have a kneecap okay perfect that's fine yeah perfect that works here's your mop Jack later called his dad quote the most perfect physical specimen that he'd ever seen I say that about my dad yeah yeah that's a normal thing to say about your dad's my god he's beautiful oh I love my daddy my dad I don't mind saying it I got a sexy dad I like my dad bod hey dad why don't you take your shirt off just while we're watching TV here also is it

right to talk about how perfect someone's body is when they have a leg that won't work nope he's perfect in every way well there's one note okay he does he does walk in circles because that area is very clean it's the rest of the hallway we're worried about because the circle is amazing quite a circumference it's just such a different color now from the rest of the floor you know what I mean Jack was said to have an air of confidence from a young age and a drive to exceed the harsh life his parents had lived okay so he was like I'm gonna be better than a slave yeah life I'm gonna top slave I'm gonna top the slave life

that you lived yeah so he had goals he was bright talkative and energetic Jack went to school for five years and then worked with a milkman to help the family get by he got ten cents an hour and a new pair of red socks every Saturday okay so for some reason the union leader Santa for some reason the milkman had a lot of socks but red socks well yeah I mean yeah the end of the wage isn't what I wanted but the new sock thing if you put that into it it's about a ten and a half cents an hour so ever since I found the old sock mine I can pay the kids in socks box eventually you're like I don't I don't need them this week it's all I

have I just have money'd be great I like money a lot but I don't need red I have hey is your red socks okay all right see you next Saturday no I don't think so yeah Galveston was a secluded city and segregation was not a huge issue like it was in the rest of the south pretty much everyone there was growing up poor white Latino black whatever so he hung out nice and fair yeah everyone's poor yeah that's nice he hung out with a gang of white kids growing up and never felt excluded or different okay quote as I grew up the white boys were my friends and pals I ate with them played with them and slept at their homes their

mothers gave me cookies and I ate at their tables no one ever taught me that white men were superior to me can you imagine a time when that's something you marvel at yeah something you got to say wow these guys are great they didn't say they're better and race meant nothing to this group he was frail and not a brawler and managed to avoid fights but when Jack was 12 he got into another kid they argued and he got into another they're arguing they got into it he got into it yeah into another yeah he didn't freeway motorcycle job anyone he well you don't know that listen to the rest of the fucking sentence all right he got

into him all right good lord you know the third rule of the gang right oh boy here we go so the other kid punched him in the jaw and Jack was about to run away when he heard his grandmother say quote if you do not whip Willie I shall whip you so Jack did the other kid yeah because it's playing into earlier story line he's no he's talking about she's not about someone's dick okay just to be clear okay so go so the grandma's like if you don't beat the shit out of him that's an issue yeah she's like I'll beat you up so he beat the shit out of the other kid nice it's good and then and then it changes perspective he was

like oh oh so you can do that that's the thing you can beat people up that's cool so he got a job at the local docs but he hated it and he just don't have a good sock program what do you mean you guys don't pay you guys don't have a sock huh a sock day a what it's a job do I not get socks I'm sorry you are supposed to get socks on Saturday are not supposed to get socks on Saturday it's a job it's not okay what color socks are they none it's a job right it's not a sock job they're all sock jobs are you talking about were you a milkman yeah oh no no that's a pyramid scheme you should have gotten more money no later so he

tried to work at other places but didn't like those either he just didn't like working okay okay he moved to Dallas where he landed that's where this is yeah we're here hi how are you and he got an apprenticeship for a carriage painter sure with a guy named Walter Lewis and Walter Lewis loved boxing and soon oh Jack started sparring okay when Jack was 16 he headed for Manhattan ended up living with Joe Walcott a welterweight fighter from the West Indies okay where all the great ones come from yes now they're known there Jack got work exercising horses at a stable okay well just walking around how's that work you

take him out for a trot it is trotting right you can walk him around do you ride him you can ride him is he riding him probably okay but then he was fired for exhausting a horse what that's so I took that one hard like that one he was like we're doing we're doing this it's tough he may have that one doing like sit-ups and shit they shouldn't be on its back just about its out trust me this is gonna be good he's gonna be ripped he's dead but ripped fair you're not wrong next he got a job working as a janitor at a boxing gym okay Jack was able to buy his first pair of boxing gloves you know I know you don't have an

eye patch or any sort of weird thing going on but I got a good feeling about you my dad has a bad leg that'll do he's got a good reference hopefully it's genetic you'll fit right in he was basically do everything around the circle is what we're looking for Jack was able to buy his first pair of boxing gloves and started sparring whenever he got the chance is that how that works yeah it's like fake yeah that's how you mean at the gym yeah at the gym not just a street sparring he's just not like walking around like who wants up yeah no onions come here bitch and then he returned to Galveston sorry

Dallas that's it you had your fucking run good run good great run and he came back a much bigger and stronger man a local guy who was a bit of a badass accused Jack one day of turning him into the cops over a game of craps okay so the two men decided to fight and they met at the docks oh what so they were like let's do it how Street Fighter does it I'm thinking battleship in the background the whole nine Jai you can a lot of you enjoyed that a lot of you were like I don't know what's happening

so large crowd showed up of course they have to it's a movie it's a fight yeah it's the third act the other guy was much larger and older but Jack Fighter works it's all about you go ahead Jack beat the shit out of them okay and then this is the first time Jack thought that he could be a professional boxer okay so Jack started boxing and back alleys in bar rooms as most boxers did at the time is that that is at the time that's what you did yeah you got into an alley fight or a bar fight sure boxers at this time mostly existed in the sporting world of whores pimps hustlers drugs crime and alcohol the

hotspots it was difficult for any fighter to maintain his training regimen and his concentration with all that going on many succumb to alcoholism and venereal disease well those are related good lord it's hard to it's hard to fight when you're when you got the yeah that's the but yeah that is the great advantage for your opponent if you are fine if you could just block till the eighth round he's gonna itch himself out of this one and then if you hit a guy with syphilis like his head just caves his nose falls off he's got eight get your nose on nine get your nose on that's it he's done he's out

jack was also in a battle royale they had pay-per-view now that's not really a boxing match but more like a fist fight between a bunch of guys in a ring and the last guy left standing wins can that come back that sounds pretty great I'd probably watch that eight just like the last one last fighter figure it out team up do whatever let's get nuts America god damn it I'm sure it'll come back it will we have no idea how he did in the battle royale battle royales were usually just all black boxers who were trying to make a quick buck sometimes all the boxers would be blindfolded okay yeah yep I mean who doesn't have a

question why and how and I mean first of all is that how you don't know who won you're all blindfolded hello there's one guy he's being quiet there's no guys isn't he eight hours later show yourself you prick I'm not an idiot hello I'm almost going to take it off but I'm not stupid I don't want to lose on a disqualification come here you bastard is there anyone here let's be honest what is this thank you sir yeah thanks good thanks fella he joined a boxing summer league and fought against John must have it Lee it's good nickname must have it you

know what think about me is I always got to have it we're actually out of the shrimp got to have it I must have it have you heard of me I must have it Lee we got to have it we don't have it get the shrimp I got to have it we don't have it hey look at me no I'm wearing a blindfold so boxing was not legal in Texas that is shocking news shocking and the fight with must have it Lee was broken up okay but it wasn't over they just went down to the beach and continued the fight dude what is how who's writing this beach fight yeah I mean they really are just like come on kind of the beach it's the

sequel Jack won his haul was one dollar and fifty cents oh awesome any socks no socks Jack met then met his debut as a professional boxer on November 1st 1898 in Galveston okay he knocked out Charlie Brooks on a on an aircraft carrier in the sky against guile I'm cheeky so Jack would keep fighting and win some and lose some he fought the same boxer his name was Klondike and what would you do for a win and he beat that guy he lost to him and then tied him and then beat him and on February 21st 1901 he fought Joe Choynicki a popular and experienced heavyweight

he knocked out Jack in the third round both men were then arrested because boxing was illegal in Texas wow it's an awkward selly yeah the sheriff had waited until the fight was over because he was a fan of boxing wow there so it is still Texas it is I was worried for a minute but the sheriff's there not now I ain't tell one of them's dead I got money on Zangief that's it I'm done I'm done I'm out I'm done I'm done I'll stop neither man could afford bail so the sheriff put them in the same cell and allow what they were sellies so awkward that is like the sitcom where you put the tape down the middle of the cell

that's your half I got the toilet well I got the bed punching me prick he let a local boxing club send both fighters gloves and the two men started sparring in the prison yard large crowds would gather and watch the sessions okay so okay well yes again we're definitely it's kind of like a Roadhouse movie no it's definitely like a Roadhouse movie the two boxers during that time became friends but more importantly what a weird bond this is like unlikely animal friends is that an actual show yeah it's a great show they should hate each other but behind the scenes like you're my best friend yeah

I got you half a necklace there they're where it their opponent connects to my heart half right their opponents and then they get in a cell and they're like you know what I actually got a lot of respect for you I love the hill out of you let's fight and then fuck cuz I don't have a woman in here well I remember I called top that that had double meaning I thought you meant punk oh well like I said double meaning in here so let's do her you call you gale all right it's the only interaction we're allowing that's it cuz it's a winner is that one thing it's actually gay left so so the boxers

became friends but more importantly Jack learned something Jack oh go ahead yeah well Jack learned how to box up until then he couldn't find anyone who would teach him how to box he was just okay figuring it out his own okay after 23 days their bail was reduced to an amount they could afford and then a grand jury refused to indict either one of them okay now Jack style was not to try to knock the other guy out but to wear him down okay this was not normal for the time mostly they would just try to punch each other's heads off makes sense he would end of the angle he would dodge punches and move right he made

boxing look effortless there are films of his fights in which Jack can be seen holding up an opponent waiting for the guy to recover so they could keep boxing that's a bad technique yeah but he knows he's like I this is fine I want to kill him so the press hated his style wait his matches were filmed yeah there are some later on they got okay they thought it was cowardly his style but he was clearly a great boxer the problem was no heavyweight champion wanted to fight a black opponent of course yeah yeah what really it's like there was racism back he's a little too good he's a little too good this was pretty new Tom crib had

defended his English title against Tom Molyneux who we just talked about no time a black American fighter in the 1880s John Sullivan a nativist know nothing was the first to draw a line and not fight black boxers wait say that again and in the 1880s yeah John Sullivan was a natives know nothing right uh-huh was the first boxing champion to draw a line and not fight black boxers okay right so before then they would fight him but then but then one guy was like nah yeah just whites after he won the title he didn't box for three years saying there were no worthy challengers to fight that's how you do it that's how

you do it there's nobody out there win one time and then just be like nah there's nobody yeah he's not good enough I'd win I don't want to do it but there were but they were all blacks he's like nah I don't see him nah blacks had once been more welcome to the sports but the tide turned when Jim Crow laws kicked in and a pushback began the threat of black boxers was noted in 1895 the New York Sun newspaper man Charles Dana wrote we are in the midst of a growing menace the black man is rapidly forging to the front ranks in athletics especially in the field of fisticuffs oh my god we are in the midst of a black rise against white supremacy oh my god

what the fuck how is the language I mean how was no one like even your point even if your point was right your language it's we're fighting white supremacy the blacks want a white supremacy come on just put it in the paper and everyone's like reading it all the Sunday the Sunday news is interesting apparently black people are trying to fight well they shouldn't be allowed to do that they'll take our rings yes the best black boxer at the time was Peter Jackson not the no he's he doesn't look like he can fight and he's black yeah he's he's changed a lot yeah I've always identified as a black

boxer finally liberated Jackson was called the black prince he was the Australian heavyweight champ and a lot of reporters thought he was the one guy who could beat Sullivan so Sullivan knew this and would always come up a bunch of excuses or demands and then he started saying quote fight a white man for ten thousand black guy double that but he still refused even when someone came up with double that no next okay Peter Jackson never got the title fight he deserved and died penniless ended up appearing in productions of Uncle Tom's Cabin to make ends meet I mean that did not go well god that has to be the worst

you're like although that would be cool if Tyson did that these are the pigeons they're my only thawless here they keep me going all the time your voice is weird for a big guy yeah I'm tough big so what a final what final I broke my back my back is broken you ever seen that clip no it's ever a fight Jim Gray's talking to him and he's my I don't know Mike he's just Mike Tyson's just one and he's like champ after tonight how did you do it he goes yeah my back is broken and Jim Gray goes huh and he goes what do you mean your back is broken he goes yeah final and Jim Gray's like okay who's your doc the heavyweight

champions who came after Sullivan James Corbett Bob Fitzsimmons and Jim Jeffries not this not this comedian and the director of Lord of the Rings I mean this is really quite an A-list they're great they continued the don't fight black fighters rule Sullivan it started even though a lot of them had fought black boxers on their way up to becoming champions right yeah that's what they got there and they're like nope yeah in 1903 Jim Jeffries became the champ and the media started pushing the idea of Jeffries fighting a black challenger okay but they weren't pushing for Jack Johnson they were pushing for the

oxnard bull Sam McVeigh let me at him I'm just picturing he's not as good that was that was the bull yeah okay is he tougher I would I think so okay you made himself a year old man let's come back to it I mean he's like get off my mind mentally I switched from Street Fighter to punch out sure and so now a lot of them have taken on these sort of like weird things like you just got a hitman in the belly and his pants fall down so Jeffries pull went into his little bullshit excuse hat and pulled this one out he said since McVeigh had previously lost to John Jack Johnson he couldn't be considered for a title shot

but Johnson was so much smaller than McVeigh that he didn't consider Johnson to be a heavyweight so he couldn't fight him how do you do that how do you see I've made a great point and next Johnson and McVeigh then scheduled another bout the papers were all about McVeigh getting the title shot after the press didn't like Jack Johnson he was a boring fighter very much our modern-day Floyd Mayweather took a little shot at that guy he's shit he's shit and I want to nap when I watch him oh it's Floyd Mayweather gonna sleep I'm gonna sit down and take a nap while I pay $80 on TV you mean his boxing style is shit because it's all right is

off no he's a great boxer but it's like oh that's fun look and I and I talked about Nim the chimp but I saw Floyd Mayweather at the Grove with a little monkey once and I was like well I mean come on we all want to be there we all want to have a little we all do want to get to the point where we we are hanging out with a monkey I want we all want a monkey in a blanket while we're eating just like cool blanket yeah he had him in a little blanket I walked by Lattratoria I was like oh my god that's the craziest thing I've ever seen a lot of celebrities will be like I don't want to be noticed when I'm outside so they

the press love boxes you try to knock out opponents like McVay and and Jack was known for holding on and being a defensive artist right Jack won the fight easily the San Francisco call wrote that the second fight with McVay was quote one of the poorest fights this city has ever seen the article also called Jack Johnson quote the colored heavyweight champion who was dying to fight Jeffries and probably would if he did so they really don't like oh okay I thought that was maybe his new like middle title welcome to the ring red shorts re-read don't you read the colored heavyweight champion who is dying to fight Jeffries

and probably what if he did solid pickup still jack went on to beat opponent after opponent and Jeffrey said he was like the Spurs yeah yeah he's just like people like it's boring yeah they went yeah but it's boring right fuck you guys I don't know what you want from me okay that was good street fighter this is why we tell people not to talk remember Jeffries then said he would fight Jack in a locked room for a winner take all side bet for a new storage wars hello all right I'll fight you in a dungeon yeah yeah you know how we do it

we can't have a ring it's either by the sea on the beach or in a dungeon pick your level jack passed on the bullshit offer Jeffries then retired from boxing just as Sullivan had saying there were no challengers left by that he meant white ones obviously right so then two white guys fought for the vacant title a Canadian named Tommy Burns one and then he went on a world tour he went to England Paris and Australia Jack followed him everywhere he went and kept challenging him in each place wow in person trolling in person trolling finally an Australian promoter offered Burns $30,000 to fight Jack and Burns

agreed all right here we go the fight happened in Sydney Jack's signature move was to hold onto his opponents biceps and I can understand why people were like this is pretty boring you can't punch you're punching yourself why you hit yourself huh why you doing it so he would pin their arms with their biceps and then they'd be swinging and that would be what he would do for rounds just waiting for the guy to tire himself out or just be like I this isn't boxing I retire I'm done what happened so that's what happened to Burns and then in the later rounds he was really tired and Jack just started beating the shit out of

him hey hey so because a black fighter was beating up a white fighter the police ruck police rushed in and this is illegal this is illegal come on now we watched the first nine rounds but no no no no no it's illegal now it's not illegal now there's a law once the black guy starts hitting the white guy it's not okay it's off that's that's not boxing so the fight was over Jack was declared the winner the New York Herald wrote quote it had not been a boxing match but an Armenian massacre so they went they went really topical on that one are they and a little a little callous a little slightly harsh definition

kind of fucked up to Armenians I would say cool so the title was now Jack Johnson's he is now the world had its first I don't fight white guys oh my god I don't do it that's what he should have done that's what he should have done yeah they're not good enough I'm gonna go on a little tour well the problem was he wouldn't fight black guys so he this is honestly like when you get elected president becoming the heavyweight champion yeah literally whatever you said you're just like and I don't do it anymore I'm the in charge so well he he he was right in that the white audience didn't want to see two black heavyweight

champions fight each other and the press was very vocal about that okay I'm look I'm obviously it's a I know that was it you know it was a different time you know they just owned people a little while before yeah that was like oh sorry that's actually a thing that happened no we don't want to hear about that Dave there had been other black boxing champs back in the past little George little chocolate Dixon Dave Dave I mean I get David they might have called a bit little chocolate Dave maybe little David little chocolate Dave Dave one more time George little chocolate Dixon oh my god

no good I mean I guess he was small yeah and I mean good Lord there's call me chocolate little dicks on he was the Bantam weight champ in 1890 but no one cared Joe name is awful yeah Joe Gans was lightweight champ champ in 1908 but no one cared but being the heavyweight champ was a big deal that was the top of the boxing world and now a black guy who was supposed to be an inferior was the best fighter in the world on top of that Jack Johnson was a different kind of dude he loved fast cars and he loved easy women even more he was a huge fan of prostitutes boy alright here we go white prostitutes and gambled almost all the

money he won okay would buy furs and outfits that white men thought black men should not own I don't know what I don't know what that is no that's just that was just a fun trend and you can't buy clothes what are they doing those are ours excuse me those are white man's clothes pardon me who did what white person did you take that far from but the worst crime he was committing in the eyes of the white man was the fact that he enjoyed and made sweet love to white women that is he returned from Australia with a white woman is companion has his companion and introduced her to reporters as his wife

but she wasn't he's fucking with him he is a troll yeah he's fucking great it's great he was also big on humiliating white fighters who previously had denied him a chance to box in the ring he would gloat invite white boxers to hit him and talk shit with opposing boxers corner and the spectators during the fights all right this drove white people insane well I've always found white people to be very tolerant I'm astounded that they were not okay with this good Lord he also wasn't a big finisher and seemed to do just what he needed to do to win which drove a lot of boxing fans insane okay he would often invite

journalists to watch him bathe nude what I'm sorry sorry sorry sorry huh what you say took a left turn huh he would invite journalists to watch him bathe nude and allow them to touch his muscled body well okay so who who who's the press who are they who's it lose it were the ones who are just like absolutely oh wow you're very muscular look at that great dick now let me ask you about your strategy earlier tonight it's huge let me ask you about your strategy earlier tonight oh it's getting bigger oh yeah it's unbelievable covered in bubbles I love a good bath let me ask you about your strategy earlier tonight no very

amazing unbelievable abs yeah it's a unbelievable cock earlier tonight when you were you trying to tuck around your opponent excuse me can I get in here I'm from the New York Times oh yeah absolutely and I was just wondering there we go his training camps were owes and open houses so he could just show off his skills when he was fighting Al Kaufman in a heavyweight title defense match he put him in a clinch and then just sort of pushed him around the rings the guys trying to fight and he's just kind of push him around the ring and a spectator yelled at Jack why wouldn't he fight and Johnson pushed him over to the side of

the ring and I wish people can all see what you're pushing him over Jester is he's just little mini right hops just and then he leaned over the ropes while still holding Kaufman and said to the spectator why should I fight I already have your $10 so Jack was making a mockery of the great art of punching men in the face and people wanted him stopped he also didn't give a shit about social rules of how blacks were supposed to behave clearly he was flashy he wore ankle length fur coats bought expensive racing cars that were painted bright colors wore tailor-made suits had rubies emeralds diamonds jewelry this is

great had a cat all his teeth capped gold oh yeah is that our first grill it might is that the first time I don't know how you could find that out but man I think we just found it out I think we just found out when talk of entering world war one started Jack let it be known he didn't care quote fight for America well I should say not what has America ever done for me or my race in England I'm treated like a human being everyone's like well that a little close to home my friend we're all getting over slavery all right it's been tough on all of us Lord

you would also you know sometimes I feel like black people think they had at the worst they don't know how in love we fell with it they really tough breakup those are the ones that stick with you when they got away at least there's prison in the prison industrial complex right we'll figure that out true he also decked his the women he was with out in jewels whether they be prostitutes or not and then and then when he moved on to another woman he'd be like give me the jewels back I'm gonna give him to the next one but you said this was mine and that you cared yep not now the most prominent black leader in the country

Booker T. Washington also did not like Jack Johnson okay he said the champ was misrepresenting the colored people of this country and his preference for white women was seen as an embarrassment to some blacks and something that would bring the wrath of whites down on the heads of every black person but Jack did not care what blacks thought whites were a little more direct like the governor of North Carolina North Carolina who called jet for Jack to be lynched quote there is but one there is but one punishment and that must be a speedy when the Negro lays his hand upon the person of a white woman oh my

god what so he they haven't changed governor since right wait isn't it crazy the quotes that are on record yeah a guy yeah yeah a guy was calling for a lynching for dating a white woman for touching a white woman right touching laying hand and taking away her jewels that he gave her it was because of Jack that states began passing laws forbidding blacks and whites to marry or have sexual relations because he was making him come you know what I mean he was fucking dude he's literally buying furs taking press baths and banging white chicks yeah he's fucking live in a lot of other

white people yeah yeah well they shouldn't be allowed to have baths so everyone started looking for the great white hope who could beat the black champion oh my god it's Drago isn't it I must break you white boxer after white boxer came forward and white boxer after white boxer were easily beaten by Jack Johnson so good pretty much any white guy who could put on gloves was given a chance okay I'm just a caterer oh boy I don't know I never had no training how can I get a size shoe that fits oh boy I'm in another one of my over my head situations whoa hold my glasses oh gosh no I gotta write a letter

to my mom before we fight my doctor's gonna be upset I've got nasal issues oh whoa whoa whoa he's very big he's very big and that was the night horse shack beat back Johnson even middleweight Stanley catches gave it a shot who what's his name Stanley catches but he's a middleweight so he's a lot smaller it turned into a great example of how Jack loved to humiliate white fighters quote Johnson towered over his opponent picking off his punches smiling and chatting with ring-siders do you come here a lot though we should meet up I can get you some rubies later give me five minutes and then we'll get out of

here okay this guy is adorable cutie pie did land just often and just hard enough to cause Ketchels mouse mouth and nose to bleed but to do no more serious damage several times Johnson simply lifted the smaller man into the air he's my nephew Nick you smile you stinker I like to think that that's his laugh pick him up in the air feet dangling like an oversized doll and then Johnson would put him down wherever he liked the parking lot this was a bad idea one ring-sider called it a struggle between a demon and a gritty little dwarf and the boxer Peter Jackson was like hmm the fight ended with

four of Ketchels teeth knocked out a couple were embedded in Jack's glove hey we're both hurt your teeth are in my hand the angry white crowd went very very silent huh pots of him are in his glove it was looking pretty hopeless for any white fighter so people started looking to retired Jim Jeffries as the only hope to beat Jack Johnson okay Jeffries was huge and a brutal puncher he was now working on a farm he bought but the calls for him to take care of the black champion grew louder and louder even John Sullivan he used to say Jeffries would only fight patsy's was calling on Jeffries to fight hey good to

see you again so yeah what's up yeah sorry about a seniorly patsy yeah I'm sorry what yeah yeah that wasn't beat the black man okay it seemed like that was really in you a lot we must unite over our hatred for anything that's not our skin color okay so we have in common it makes sense yeah it's not okay I he banged a white woman what oh and he banged did he make her come he takes baths oh she came oh she oh from what I've heard he's fantastic and what he does is he waits rounds and tires him out huh and then then he starts hitting it my biceps hurt just wait baby

novelist Jack London he's one of my favorite writers yeah what's he writing about this novelist Jack London wrote quote but one thing remains Jeffries must emerge from his alfalfa farm and wipe that smile from Johnson's face oh my god yeah one of my favorite writers is a fucking racist I mean I think it's pretty clear call of the white so Jeffries agreed the $100,000 purse helped wow yeah his former rival thinking all the hay I can buy his former rival James Corbett who also wanted a white champion helped train him John Sullivan got wrestling champions to come help Jeffries learn how to deal

with Jack's holding technique okay meanwhile you got a smash a chair on the back of his what is the deal oh we can't do you validate how does this work I don't know tag out Jim comes into the garbage can lid all right we distract the ref with a small fire on the side at the same time Jeffries was doing all this training Jack was touring the country in vaudeville shows I want to know and then I'm also like I don't know if I want to know yeah he was just going out and telling jokes hey as everyone doing tonight you know the thing about white women that I love banging them that's my time thanks everybody a lot of people

say my comedy is not relatable but you know when a reporter is bathing your dick and now he may have just been doing vaudeville shows instead of training because Jeffries was the exact type of boxer Jack could easily beat anyone who was super aggressive played right into Jack's hand not a good setup right here though we're in like the this is the second act of the movie yeah I don't need it I don't need to train I got this I'm talented while the other guys look for all white people you must run up this mountain 80s ballot 80s ballot plus Jeffries had been retired for six years okay so on July 4th 1910 in the middle of

the Nevada desert on it I mean yeah go ahead it's just literally everyone is just thin and saying low inside a volcano on Mars a Miami freeway being near Reno's like being inside a volcano if there's one place we can make fun of it's Reno they can't hear this they don't have Wi-Fi so about 20,000 people gathered to watch the fight Jesus everyone had to check their firearms to enter the venue I was gonna shoot the black guy if he won yeah that's why we're doing this fuck and you shouldn't say that everybody's saying it I'm aware that's why we're doing this so put it here all of them come on I have nine

I'm aware and the one from your wrist down your pants come on do your tongue fuck and the one that's in your butt I had that one comes out and that's sort of a timed fashion keep it okay they also weren't allowed to drink alcohol such a smart policy yes that I like I like when you go to a baseball game being able to drink nine innings as much as the next person but the turn at the seventh inning seven people yeah or like the fourth quarter of a football game you're like remember that guy who was really nice before he's like fuck your Facebook you're like what's going on he's like yeah dude I can't tag you

fucking prick all around the country people sat outside news offices waiting for telegraphs reporting about the match what a time yeah my notifications refresh Jim Jeffries refused to shake Jack's hand at the start of the fight always cool when you see that yeah you're like you're gonna get your ass kicked hopefully the fight started and it was pretty obvious Jeffries was too slow and no match for Jack's defense during the fight Jack's old hero Jim Corbett who was in Jeffries corner became frustrated and started screaming racial insults at Jack oh I'm sure he was delicate this probably didn't help

Jeffries oh god that's the best Jack completely obliterated Jeffries in the 50 imagine him knowing that in the future we're gonna be doing a podcast that he's still getting a play but he's getting applause from white people I mean there's probably three black people here I don't know why it's a you think that more black people would enjoy but this is sort of clan rallyish no offense no offense but maybe let's get the word out that we are yeah May 9th the book comes out so in the 15th round he knocked Jeffries out Jack Johnson a black man had won what was called the fight of the century and people went bug fuck crazy

race riots erupted across the country mobs went crazy a black man was shot in Arkansas two black men were killed in Louisiana for the win yeah someone's got to pay another in Mounds Illinois and round I Virginia round I Virginia really seriously honest really Virginia can you fucking reel it back I was taken so we thought we'd be more specific a Houston newspaper reported quote Charles Williams a Negro fight enthusiast had his throat slashed from ear to ear on a streetcar by a white man having announced to viscerously of his appreciation of Jack Johnson's victory in Reno a Manhattan in Manhattan a mob

set fire to a black tenement and then blocked the doorway to stop people from escaping in St. Louis a black crowd marched through the streets pushing whites off the sidewalk and harassing them that's a good one that's fine that's fine I'm down with that one but then they were finally clubbed by police and they all ran away that was bound to happen in Washington DC two white men were fatally stabbed by black men during a riot 236 people were arrested Washington DC Jesus in Omaha a black man was smothered to death while he sat in a barber's chair wait what that's like a hit how do you even what do you can what

in wheel I don't need the shampoo I don't need the shampoo that bad I don't need the bro this is for Jim Jefferies not the boxer the comic in Wheeling West Virginia a black man was driving an expensive car so he was attacked by a mob dragged out of the car and lynched my god yeah well a black guy want to fight but in America she's a great country that one bums me out yeah oh that's weird yeah that that bums you out when a bunch of people just die because they're walking around being people in all there were riots in 25 states and 50 cities I told you white people in bug fuck at least 25 people

were killed but the total is probably much more hundreds were injured several white men how can we not get death counts close to accurate back then you kill yeah exactly right and then the coroner's like no one died here come on give me a high five he actually took a vacation for a while it's the coroner you'll be back next century is the coroner yeah yeah don't worry about it hey he's in the fucking fridge maybe he is maybe ain't maybe I threw the leftovers out I don't know the coroner where's this corner from Seattle hey hey don't worry about it let's just say you used to live somewhere on the East Coast relocated

because of the cord lays the coroner just say I gotta check it past they don't want to talk about it hmm you know what I mean the coroner yeah I don't know I don't know Dave you're not allowed to undercut those hundreds of people are injured several white men were recorded to have committed suicide what that is crazy that is okay but hold on how racist you are think of the height think of the height of your racism think of your own life I can't live in a goddamn world where I'm black I'm done I'm done I can't god damn it are you sure the telegraphs right yes I'm gonna go to the bedroom for a

little while you might hear some loud noises just be processing so we've talked about he's full black he's a full black guy he's all black is his dad white maybe a little white slaves he's an ex slave parents but I saw I I had the same reaction I was quieter what was the wife like but I think to some of these guys because remember this the scientists are telling you that you're superior and doctors are and everybody is so some of these guys it's like waking up and finding out the earth is flat and they literally lost their fucking minds they were like this can't be like it was everything they based their whole

I mean we don't need them no those are not people we need sticking around but still the idea at you oh it's fucking offended quote one suicide note life isn't worth living and now that Jeff has lost I agree I agree if that's how you feel I totally agree I'm totally down with what you've done bye bye what person must have had a life but something else but it seems like it might have just been based on him being better than black guys so there was also a film of the fight but it was immediately censored Eddie Roosevelt agree with this decision bully quote the last contest

provoked a very unfortunate display of race antagonism and it would be an admirable thing if some method could be devised to stop the exhibition of the moving pictures taken true yeah yeah winning is condescending if you're black coverage of Johnson and the papers moved from that of being a boxer to that of being a celebrity playboy yeah well he's look he's having reporters come over when he bathes he's the beyond in bed bath and beyond he's like get over here you want to know what it means yeah alright so just as we get our fix of celebrity gossip today Johnson's life and habits were printed for the world

to see every single day but it wasn't all horrible around the country after the fight black celebrated they held spontaneous praise and gatherings and prayer meetings the reaction of black America inspired black poet William wearing Cooney to write a poem about the fight titled my lord what a morning well now we got to kill that guy jack jack Johnson for the fight won sixty five thousand dollars which would be one point seven million dollars today so so many rubies to take back jeffreys said even in his prime he could not have beaten jack and John Sullivan said jack won deservedly fairly and convincingly

following the bout the great jeffreys was forced to admit Johnson skill conceded even him in his prime and he could never have touched Johnson and then the news coverage of jack turns into all being all about his life habits and they're printed right so in on in January 1911 jack married at a Terry dervay a white Brooklyn's socialite they'd been seeing each other for a while they've had a rough relationship up to this point okay when they went to Philadelphia on a trip jack brought his two favorite prostitutes with him so what was his wife's deal she was like I'm cool with that she's like that that seems weird what are

they for they're fine baby you know what they're for so as Eda was not into that and they all stayed in separate hotels and that's playing into his plan yeah you should be like I want him in this room couch yeah but then he just fuck him in front well then you're like get other rooms obviously get other rooms I didn't know you were gonna fuck in front of me so that was George that was actually jack's normal procedure because we'd often travel with more than one woman he'd have one stay in each hotel okay but he stayed with Eda most of the time and he just went to the other two when he wanted to fuck okay so this was

how life went for Eda and it was apparently not a life that she really wanted she wasn't into that that's not so much on September 14th 1912 she shot herself on the upper floor of a Chicago nightclub that Jack owned oh well that's very specific to him Jesus newspapers insist did she find out that he'd beat a white man why didn't you tell me I don't follow sports prostitutes I'm fine with why do I talk like this so newspapers insisted Eda killed herself because she was often left alone by Jack when he was out flandering one newspaper reported

that her last words were quote God have pity on a lonely woman there's no way for them to know what her last words there's no way no one was there she just shot herself in a okay well we talked to the shotgun and it remembers it very clearly that's what I want my last words to be yeah oh that's it yeah I have pity on a lonely one okay let's puzzle everyone wait what wake him up is he what happened what the fuck was he talking about hey what do you mean what do you mean I mean it's your last words you get a really great way to go out yeah could just be like that's what a hamburgers all about wait what what are

you what is he saying you guys that's copyrighted what is he said that wake him up that's copyrighted yeah another paper said Jack's brother who was working the bar downstairs at the time started a sing-along when he heard about her suicide they were they were out to fuck him up a little yeah okay cool just a few weeks later Jack was seen with an 18-year-old white woman named Lucille Cameron okay she worked at a cafe that Jack owned and the newspapers went crazy with the story saying Jack had seduced a naive teenager and stolen her way from her parents white woman ruined by black no the reality was quite

different she had actually been a prostitute that Jack had met and he liked her so he got her out of the life and gave her a job at his cafe I'm shocked the press didn't cover it like that the government had known about Lucille long before the press or the public and authorities were already putting the other a case against Jack under the man act what is the man act well the man act made it a crime to transport women across state lines quote for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery or for any other immoral purpose it was basically a law created to stop sex trafficking but it was now being used to take down a

black man who was a champion who had sex with white women that is really part of the problem is a lot like with a lot of the stuff that seemed like it was it has been going in the right direction it's just like it's the relentlessness like it never ends it's like we were talking earlier about like you know when like Monsanto will take over a farmer's it's just like they don't stop that's part of the problem like it never and they're just like we will keep fighting you until you say fucking uncle we will grab your biceps in the ring till you tire out and we knock the shit out of you then a white guy kills himself on a roof

and says that you don't want to die alone they keep going Jersey forever like that yeah yeah yeah quote to corroborate I found out a black man one that's it for my life farewell world so so one of the prostitutes he brought to fiddle off they was named Bell Bell Bell okay oh wait let me do this first so first they arrested Lucille right okay they charged her with keeping the cafe open beyond legal hours what is what you didn't turn the clothes sign around so put away nine years nine how long did she get nine years wow no she didn't oh they just arrested you're serving five two nine they were just trying to scare her

to make her rat on Jack sure and soon they did indeed turn her into a witness on a case of quote white slavery what what what that's jumbo shrimp it happens they don't that is no it happens have you heard a white white side are you on Twitter oh my god yeah no we're fucked up Jack Jack was then arrested under the man act on a December 4th 1912 three months after Edda died Jack married Lucille the white public went apeshit again shocker her mother also swore formally that her daughter was insane Jack however could now not be prosecuted by the government because Lucille could not testify against her

husband it's called the prostitution law after Jack married Cameron Lucille Cameron two ministers in the south called for him to be lynched because they're it's just minister stuff I mean truly ministers yeah well yeah I mean it's weird that minister would be yeah it's weird that they perpetuate bullshit glad they stopped yeah they're done they're done good glad that's over fun run though yeah they're done southern news so southern newspapers called to show Johnson quote southern hospitality mmm I feel like he doesn't want to do that we got a bath for you white America screamed for the government to find

something on Jack come on get up please they did too many white people have lost their lives over frustration by race so they uh oh thank God I thought you were about to hit me with something bad no oh it's all bad it is all bad um but okay here we go what do you want a website it just moved it moved I hit it with my thumb and it it scrolled what did the iPad or you know the thing on the iPad it the document it's okay so um one of the prostitutes he frequented one who had he brought to Philadelphia on that trip named Bell Schreiber less than a month after the case with Lucille fell apart Jack was arrested again for

violating the man act because Bell Schreiber had turned yeah quote to corroborate and amplify Bell's version of events federal agents quietly fanned out across the country interviewing prostitutes chauffeurs waiters bell hops Pullman porters act wait it's like he's the number one it's like a fucking it's like yeah some have been a lot and moved into the country I'm getting an apartment this will be nice boy gentlemen a black man has been fucking white women well drop everything we're not ridiculous they talked to ex-managers former sparring partners looking for something

anything they could be used to bolster their case that the champion had broken the federal law this time he was successfully prosecuted and convicted of oddly by an all-white jury oh well of what being black we finally found something you black that's an issue he was convicted of the man act oh that's what he got convicted of remember he took that prostitute to Philadelphia from New York no no yeah he's yeah he's transporting prostitutes the problem with the conviction was that the man act had not been passed yet when he how does that work how do you do that yeah it's a total illegal like it should have

been thrown out there's nothing that it's totally insane he was shocked he was given the maximum which was a year in a day in prison a year in a day yeah not a year tacking one day you're getting either a year in a day or a leap year so we play it jack then jumped bail and fled to France posing as a member of a black baseball team great sentence no I'm with these guys yes he is a man pitchy hour yes he has unbelievable scale can toss you out from outfield to home base he's just unreal he's one of us yes that's right he lived in France until 1920 and defended his title three times but he wasn't the attraction he

used to be and he was getting older and out of shape he went and lived in South America and he lived in Mexico and then in 1915 he went to Cuba to fight a white boxer from Kansas Jess Willard Jess Willard knocked out Jack in the 26th round a black what when did they change round logic when people started dying okay right yeah I mean after like CTE but at some point like for at one point they were like till it's done and then someone was like what if the three people have to make a decision but until then they're like well till one dies then we're good yeah 49 rounder you guys still got it in you yeah I can't see but

let's do this shit let's do it Jack some said he threw the fight Jack said that he was promised that he would be allowed to come back to the US and not serve time in prison and that's why I'm sure that's on the up and up so let's get past that point because you know just Jess Willard the guy won was like a fucking can of hams like he was not he should never beat him what does a can of hams mean that's a can of hams well he was a can of hams yeah he had juice around him yeah he had a sort of 1980s beer opening system where you there it is look at that triangle a ham that's I'm talking about okay so he was a can of

hams all right good well thanks for clarity I meant exactly what I said absolutely as you should he was a can of hams that's right look if you don't know cliches I can't look like I I love a cliches next to that much the next man I'm right now I'm using classic Texas cliche dude he's okay he's a can of hams he's a bag of Fritos with chili in it can of hams hey I write this story I'm a can of hams Jack continued dating white women and married another one okay after five stockpiling at this point what's his number at I feel like I don't know but I think there's one black guy and every time Jack Mary's a white woman he yells

yeah yeah it's my favorite part of the show after five years he returned to the US in 1920 and turned himself in he served eight months in Leavenworth prison and one day I'm that asshole from earlier when he was released he was met at the prison gates by a marching band and a horde of his friends is there a better way to leave jail no there should always be a marching band and by the way I've left jail yeah and it's pretty depressing where's the Uber oh shit and then you turn around welcome out welcome out welcome out we're doing magic confetti but Jack was now on hard times he was he was out of money

he was a what's his age at this point he's like what he's 50 60s 60s okay so he out of money starts telling stories of his life in dye museums for money and when give reporters predictions on that's milkman money yeah sock no socks no socks how many socks a week there's no sock a year no what's my sock bonus not a sock situation all right so let's say that I forego the first two months of socks okay how does it work after that sock wise there are no socks at all and obviously they're all red or are they different colors you get a sock you get a sock I don't want any white ones well you would probably put your dick in them

hains her way I think he's fucking the socks and so we gotta stop no more white socks for him he would also give reporters predictions on upcoming fights and exchange for a meal he had to keep fighting but I want to get to that point yeah he had to keep fighting until he was over 60 to make money he would also take part in what were known as seller fights summer fights seller seller fights unadvertised fights for private audiences he degraded burlesque rooms that called for him a well-spoken black man to tell jokes in exaggerated ridiculous so-called black dialect so now he's this he's this he's essentially

if you want to compare him to someone he's like the Muhammad Ali of his time he's super smart he is a great fighter and he's living life the way he thinks it should be lived as opposed to a society wants him to yeah so now they've broken him completely that was a weird time to laugh he started drinking heavily he impersonated himself in no no no let me stop you right there who who that's what they called it impersonate himself in a seller's side show off Times Square called Hubert's Museum in Flea Circus you were too big you're too big quote to see Johnson in person visitors had to pay a quarter yellowing

newspaper clippings from Johnson's career were taped to a booth in which a board hawker sat making change without looking up visitors pushed through a little turnstile made their way down a flight of stairs and took their seats in the dank dimly lit cellar one jury act followed another a sword swallower a trick dog a half-man half-woman and then Johnson steps smoothly on stage wearing a blue beret a blue tie in a worn but sharply cut suit I'm a French baseball player I'm a pitcher not a pitcher he held a glass of red wine with a straw in it that is I don't care what anyone thinks that is bad ass wine through a

straw he then would smile and he cannot drink white wine red only burgundy he he fucks the white wine and it is not okay with us we let him in the cellar and he smooths talks a chardonnay you know what they say once you go burgundy so you basically just stand there and take questions from people okay it was a grim life he was a man who had been punished for being himself Jack did not care what whites thought of him and this upset whites the most Jack had always been in love with cars and that never stopped he'd love to drive fast he had previously rolled cars five times but the last time he

did not survive wow I mean rolling five times yeah he lost control of his car in Raleigh North Carolina and died on June 10th 1946 the next black man to hold the belt was Joe Lewis in 1937 22 years later when he was on his way up before Jack died Jack offered to help Joe and give advice work in his corner and help him out Joe's manager was not down Lewis said quote my manager cursed Johnson out he told him how he'd held up progress of the Negro people for years with his attitude how he was a low-down no good I'm not gonna say in front of people and told him he wasn't welcome in my camp anymore to get back at him

Jack bet heavily on max max smelling to beat Lewis in their first fight and after smelling one Jack bragged so openly of winning the bet that he had to be rescued by cops from an angry mob of blacks beating him up were they blindfolded because that's just called a battle royale Dave because of Jack's life and what he had done Joe Lewis had a list of do's and don'ts including everything from smiling at white women or what to do after knocking on an opponent opponent to publicly eating watermelon though he was repeatedly asked by many many people both Republicans Democrats and just human

beings President Barack Obama refused to pardon Jack Johnson post yeah yeah fun and yeah fun and sorry he didn't do it and he should have you guys can all write Obama what's the deal with Jack Johnson I don't want to talk to you about the foreigner grand what's up with Jack Johnson yeah no but Jesus Christ well is America we break black people but but also remember like one of the things that was so crazy about when Muhammad Ali died was that it was like wait he's dead he's gone but is when the people at the time who got so upset when he changed his name to Muhammad Ali yeah finally came out and we're like

I was wrong he could do what he want it's like we you know now now now now and it's now and that it really is like what I mean like the problem is that we have such like we can only look like with racism it feels like it's just such a look back over well okay valuation so there are guys in the NFL who have killed people and who have beat their wives and have done all kinds of shit but the guy who can't get a job is the black guy who kneeled during the national anthem it's the same shit it's the same fucking thing if you're at that upset about that then why do you have murderers playing there fucking wife

beaters you know that's fucking straight-up racism it's true but I like okay but think of Tim Tebow like Tim Tebow is a guy who his religious nature is a he's I mean I was he religious well he was any I mean you know I thought he was a good ball colleague Kaepernick is a much better quarterback I saw him run up the Packers ass live in the literally NFC championship game comes out their mouth touchdown but but what I'm saying what my point is is that Tim Tebow he you know he got a lot of shit and I'm not a Tim Tebow supporter or you know whatever fan

I mean you know go do your shit play baseball play every fucking sport Tebow have fun but but it's again it's it's the idea that like you know people are like oh we can't have him because he's religious how can you not have and this is obviously race but you should be allowed to have your personal fucking beliefs in anything you do but Tim Tebow is different because Tim Tebow if Tim Tebow was a black guy no give a shit because he's the great white hope all the fucking white Christians love him and he gets to play for every sport I agree with that I'm gonna do golf like it's fucking crazy I agree with

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