The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 264 - Selling the Chemical Reactor Block (live)

Episode Date: May 8, 2017

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Eugene Anderson and his Chemical Reactor Block.  Recorded live in Houston. EPISODE SOURCE: Texas Monthly Sept. 1983 - The Big Con by Bryon Harris TOUR DATES REDBUBBLE MERCH

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garries I don't know what's happening it's like the political climate. There's more than two candidates thank you thank you everyone for coming out to the first Texas dollop won't be the last three others this weekend it might be you don't know that it could be the last not okay I guess sure yeah thank you it'll be your best thank you now that's cocky. It's great to be in Houston you're listening to the dollop. This is American history podcast by weekly it's by by annual a couple times a year we do this podcast I read a story from American history to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic

is going to be about. Oh okay all right you sir. No no no yeah I think Yazz are okay. You took it too far. Yeah throwing people out for you it would be great to Trump rally it up. No the yeah guy get him out of here. No yeah get out of here. By the way if you can't see the women's room is right there. And there's no men's so that's tough. 1927. Now I didn't go city specific I just went Texas so sorry fuck off. It's like a country. I had a hard enough time I had a hard enough time. Eugene Anderson was born at Big Spring, Texas. Big Spring? You really know where that is or are you just yeah. Big Spring. Was an oil and cotton town is it

still an oil and cotton town or is it just all it is interesting. He had an older brother they were raised on a cotton and dairy farm and he spent most of his first 30 years on or near the farm. He didn't stray too far away. Okay so he's just farm chilling. In 1944 he went to McMurray College. Wait but he spent 30 years there and then went to college? Well it's near as he's still still. Yeah when he's like in class he's looking out the window like wonder what the cows are doing. He got married to another student when he was 18. Okay why not just ruin your life at that point. It's the 20s you're supposed to. You don't get married

at fucking 18. Okay sorry Dave. I don't care if it's 19 for no offense anybody who did. No nobody in Texas gets married at that age. Everybody in here got married at that age was like no he's right it's a bad idea. That's time to settle down we're almost 16. He was bright and enthusiastic and often stayed after class to work on his experiments. Kisses. It was at this time that Eugene started working on the chemical reactor block. Okay so we're gonna start early with this one. A chemical reactor block? Yep. What is that? Okay he was in his chemistry class and a hydrogen generator exploded and injured

him. Oh so he's like an X-man. This is the this is the origin story. He would become hydro man. He's the worst X-man of all time. Eugene man still tweaking the name. He thought there would be better ways to produce hydrogen than this generator situation that. You're just there to learn. Just learn. So while he was working on the chemical reactor block he got married a second time at the age of 19. Whoa whoa what happened to the first? What the what happened to the first? What happened to the first? You see what you did to me? I'm 19 and I'm broken. Hi who are you? I'm a girl. Hi I'm a boy. Alright that sounds fine. Eugene told

people he spent four years at college. What happened to the first wife? No there's no information about it. Organic divorce? We're organically divorcing. It didn't last. I had an uncle that was married for three weeks. Alright fair. When I was a kid I think I was like seven and he got married and they went to Hawaii on their honeymoon and they came back and they were no longer together. If you can't last in Hawaii. Right? Oh you're doomed. So it happens sometimes and plus when you're 18 you know six months is pretty good. Sure. It's good number. So he told people he spent four years at college and got a degree in

engineering and got grade grades but the college had different records. Interesting. Let's say he only went there for two years and never graduated. Interesting. But Eugene had a transcript and a degree to show people which he kept on his wall. Well I think we talked about this recently. The thing with degrees is you just are like oh he's got it on the wall. He's legit. Yeah if it's on the wall. It's literally that like a fake ID is harder to come by than like a degree that people will buy. Oh you went to Harvard? Yeah I did. Yeah I wasn't that hard either. Anyway let me sell you some insurance. Eugene and his wife moved after getting

married to Superior Wyoming. They got a real attitude there. Yeah. Oh we're the best. Originally it was called White Superior Wyoming but they shortened it because... Yeah no they ran it up. Yeah marketing. Marketing. They both taught school there and Eugene kept working on the CRB. So he's just like you know again I mean he's pining for another existence. He's working on this. He wants his block. He wants it. Chemical reaction block. Chemical reaction block. And by block what do we mean? I don't know. We just mean a block of something. We don't mean like a strip mall that's just like got selling different stuff. We mean a

block of mass that's probably gonna be used for evil in some way either on purpose or accidentally. Okay all righty May 9th gang. Don't forget guys. May night. Oh god like a talk show. Just seven easy payments can get you one of these. According to newspapers at the time Eugene publicly demonstrated the invention in Wyoming. What is the invention? He ran a car on on hydrogen gas. Okay all righty now we're talking. The success of the demonstration convinced him to move to the east coast and settle in New Jersey. Okay sure logical for sure. This is too good. We got to go to Jersey. Farewell superior bullshit

name. Maybe in Wyoming to Jersey. Well East Orange was the home of Eugene's uncle Marion McCoy who was also an inventor. And McCoy had patented three devices between 1939 and 1944. One of them was a successful oil filter which made him a respected engineer. And he had a small facility at his home. Oh did he now? Eugene moved in to work on the CRB with his uncle and to take advantage of free room and board. Okay this is like you're pitching a show at this point. So a lunatic who's trying to create a big block of radiation moves in with his uncle who's also crazy. The problem with the chemical reactor block

was finding a material that would produce hydrogen without exploding. Big hurdle. Huge hurdle. A sodium is known to liberate hydrogen from water. Sodium? Sodium sure. Oh good we're gonna get into the elements. I always like those. I seem to thrive when we're on the elements. But sodium with with water was a very combustible process doing it that way. So you don't want to do it. So you want, they want to find another ingredient that they can use with sodium so make it less explodey. Okay. And Eugene would produce, produce the ingredients, put it all together and test it. How? Okay. McCoy had some more surplus

engines. Sure. Yeah. Oh I got a room full of engines boy. You're a mug's friends. Oh yeah. Now everything's fine here. Come on into my room full of engines. Oh you got a whole room of these. We're gonna be great friends. We're both lunatics. Yeah. I'm a night owl. You? He converted all the engines to run on hydrogen. But ingredients kept exploding. How big are these explosions? I don't know. Big? Not huge. I mean not leveling the house but big enough to be like that's bad. An explosion is a term that you know even a small one isn't good. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a douche in your room. Nothing's that bad. Once you toss in the terms around things are in

a bad area. So it was producing enough gas to run the engines but the blowing up part was a bad. Yeah. From Eugene's notes. May 7th. Finally ran under 7,500 watts but the reactor blew up. Neighbors came over to see what happened. Uh oh. What are you guys doing? Ever since you guys teamed up a lot more bangs have been coming from here. Well lots of steam came out the garage windows. And a lot of steam. May 12th. Reactor blew up. Good. Good five-day stretch though. No injuries for five. May 20th. Reactor blew. So. Reactor what? Reactor blew each time I shut down cooling water. Fire marshal came out again. Again. Very sober notes. Fire marshal was

here again. Real testy. Kind of an asshole. Sort of against us I feel. Fire marshal came out because the neighbors were complaining. Oh it's the neighbors again. You got damn neighbors. June 6th shut down cooling water and catalyst got too hot and backfired. Fire marshal came out and told me to quit what I was doing and he would have me find and put in jail. So it's not. Yeah it's not good. I mean the fire marshal is kidding. Yeah I understand his plight. So they decided to shut down the experiments. Sure. I have a feeling this will be followed up with more experimenting. Well Eugene moved back to Big Springs. He's back in Texas. When he left town in New Jersey he left behind a trail

of bad checks which his uncle had to cover. Okay. The couple moved around. Big Spring, Brownfield, Pampa. Eugene. No. It's Pimpa. I did it. Yeah. It's PayPal. It's you know what it is? It's the way I said it. I don't know if that's true. Eugene started trying to create a machine that could pluck cotton balls from a field better than any before. Okay. What? Okay. A tool shop built it for him on credit. Sure. Yeah why not. He's got a good past. You don't write bad checks do you? No. All right. No. Well that's what we call a background check. All righty. Then he went off to sell it. So he went around to farms. Didn't go great. Sure. During one demonstration a cow managed to get tangled

in the machine. Oh my God. And had to be shot. Then of course. All right. Well. Anyway. So it works. It works much better if a cow did not go inside. I really do wonder what your best move is at the end of that. Do you go well obviously this is not going to end in a sale or do you go the opposite route and go and of course it'll kill your cows like you do not want that. Oh I should have hit this little switch over here. Yep. Well. So just I should have probably put in a warning on there cows cannot fit inside. But did you see all the cotton it grabbed before murdered your best cow. I think I think we're focusing on the negative a little strongly. I'm going to be honest with you. You're a glass half

full kind of guy you know. Let's focus on the positive. You got a barbecue. How about this. Let's eat the cow and close this up. His wife was all any questions. His wife was also almost killed on a narrow bridge while tolling the machine behind the car. It's too big. Great. And Eugene couldn't get any farmers to buy it. He ended up giving it back to the machine shop that had built it because he couldn't pay them. And they were like great. You can have this if you need any. It's actually how cow hits done. Well that's what it is though. It's like when they came out with Chantix like Chantix was an anti-depressant drug. And then when they were testing it people just started quits like quitting smoking

and they were like it's a smoking cessation drug. That's what you do. You're like this is the number one cow murdering machine they got. How are you going to stop the cow menace cannot be near cotton. We'll take it back but why is there so much blood on it. You know some of the cotton in the country bleeds. It really does. You'll get at you. There's some weird cotton out there. Yeah. So he's now 25 and he's. Of course he's 25. Of course he's 25. He's pretty depressed because he's had two big failures. Naturally he just left his wife and two children. Sure. Sure. We were living in Brownville and he went back to Big Spring and he. Yes. And he never saw. They're here tonight. So he had a few jobs

in the 1950s. I like that in his life the problem is the stability. Yeah. Well. I realized the problem. Wife and kids. They're getting in the way of my nuclear machines. Of my chemicals cotton suckers. I would have a car riding on hydrogen if it wasn't for you and your daddy. That was for Finn. Sure. Sure. He worked. Received a text about the douche. Oh. So here's something. So I text my wife and I say hey Gareth just found a douche in his hotel room in Houston and then she wrote back. Hey. It's Finn. Hey buddy. Hey. Why don't you ask mommy about that word I just texted. It's short for dad. Yeah. But it's more letters. It's short for dad.

So in the 50s he worked a different job. So he worked as a research chemist on an oil refinery. Remember he's not. He doesn't have a degree. He taught science at a high school. No degree. Sure. He worked in real estate. That's fine. And then he invented an automatic chicken feeding machine. Oh boy. Which did not work because it always jammed. You know feeding them is an important component in the chicken feed machine. Yeah. Yeah. An automatic chicken feeding machine that's not automatic. Right. Not a chicken. It's manual at that point. It becomes manual when that happens. What you do is you when an escalator doesn't work go and put the chicken feed inside fire up. OK. Now take it out and go ahead

and put it in your hand and just put it in front of the chicken. Boy this machine's unbelievable. He divorced his second wife and married a third. Sure. He told he told his new wife that his second wife had been killed. She got near one of my machines. That's just an easy out though. I know but that's just he just didn't want to go into and he's like well you know that she got killed. That's just a better way to replace it's a long story. Yeah. They're all dead. Anyway where are you from. Oh really. Tell me about them. Dead all of them. Yeah. There was a cotton bowl picking incident. She wore a cow costume. He bought half of his mother's farmland in 1954. OK. Eugene thought he could make some cash by drilling

an oil well. OK. Somehow he talked a pipe and supply company into giving him pipe on consignment which is very talk someone into pipe. Yeah. OK. Then he talked a drilling contractor into drilling with no cash advance. So how are these. He's getting interns. Very unusual. He's really good at talking people into stuff. Sure. Yeah. But they didn't find any oil. So Eugene sold all the equipment that he had been given on consignment and kept it for himself. OK. But is that OK to do because I feel like you can't do that. Not normally you don't do that. Right. You can't do that. Well OK. The supply company found out what he had done. They demanded their money and Eugene said I already spent it and they were

like that's not a thing. And he was like why don't we wrap this conversation up next to my cotton machine. You two stand right there on the X's stand on the X's stand on the X's stand on the X's say move stand on the same X say move move go. Hold on it's not working it's just grabbing cotton. Son of a bitch. Moo harder and then you both stand on his X. Do you understand both stand on his X. Moo loud. Get the goddamn gun. I'm going to kill these guys. I really turn off the cash cow. So the companies were not down with that explanation that he had no money. So they took him to court and during the trial the company learned the entire family farm was in Eugene's name not

just half. The entire family farm. So he's member his mom sold him half the farm. Yeah he had all his whole farms in his name. OK. So he just fell into some money. Yeah. Well they tried to garnish it and then Eugene's mom found out that she didn't own half her property anymore. OK. See he had forged the deed in his name. Eugene did. Yeah. So she took him to court. And then when he was supposed to take the witness stand he had he had he this is what it was a quote perfectly timed mental illness issue. That happens. That happens. I can't. I'm crazy right now. I don't know where I'll be tomorrow. Check. I don't know. I don't know who I am. The court ruled for his mom and she got the entire farm back

even his half. Now Eugene needed a little bit of money and he was still part part owner in a real estate business. So he sold this half for thirty seven hundred bought some nice suits and headed for Berkeley California. Wait. After being this is just a better time like this is when you could just skip town and it just was like he's gone. Damn it. Well that's the end of that chapter. We lost a million dollars. He moved. What are we supposed to do. What are our options. He's gone. But so he was he had to get half of the property was not his. So then he sells it right away and rolls to Berkeley. Well after he gets a bunch of cool suits. No he had he had half of a business and he sold that. He still did

have the property was taken away by the court. Right. OK. It was the business. OK. So he bought suits takes off and then he went he went to up to Berkeley and he lived there for several weeks. And when he came back he told people he had taken graduate courses in nuclear physics. You know. And Dave I think if we've learned one thing if that's a lie that's problematic. I got a graduate degree in two and a half weeks. It was awesome. Very easy. On that hard. I'll be honest. They got a crash. A lot of weed smoking. They got a crash crash nuclear physics program up Berkeley two and a half weeks. He's got to read a lot. Really intensive course. But when you get out of there you can run a whole. I'm a doctor

now basically. Yeah. I'm a doctor. Nukes. He then told people he had found a uranium deposit bigger than a house and planned to mine it. Oh my God. Well let's slow down. OK. So did he he found he found a bunch of radium and wants people to help him dig it up. Yeah. Where did he find it. It's in New Mexico. It's in New Mexico. How did he find it. I don't know. OK. Stumbled upon it. Who is he getting to come with him. His buddies. OK. So him and a bunch of his buddies are going on a radium treasure dig. Yeah. Because he found it. And this is before people knew what radium did. I think they know. Oh they know. OK. OK. So this is post knowing that you can't touch radium. Yeah. Him and some of his pals

load up the cash cow. Drive it down nowhere near cotton. Go to New Mexico. Find his bullshit radium and are going to toss it like the old pig skin. I mean it's a plan. Is it. He formed a mining company and rented a house. He made his wife quit her job as an anesthetist and moved to New Mexico. They had a new baby. This is like breaking bad. So how radium is the real radium's math. Well they had a new baby. So she really didn't want to quit her job because she was the only one making money. But she still went along with it and quit her job. So I think that's going to be a bad. Eugene. Eugene invited his friends now to see his big uranium mine. Oh uranium. Uranium. I think he said radium. OK. Uranium. Much

cooler. But then he drove around. He couldn't find it. He spent hours driving around with his friends in his Jeep looking and then finally he flipped his Jeep over in a ravine. Kind of a road trip. What. Who. Couldn't find it. So you got to have a big ending. Is that was that his logic. You guys seem kind of let down. We're going to die. The fuck. Who remembers the uranium. All of us. Shit. Hoping you all hit your heads hard and forget it. So the group had to hike out of the mountains and then all of his friends went back to Big Spring and wondered what in the fuck was wrong with Eugene. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fair assessment. His wife's like should I see if I can get the job back or how do you want to. You don't

seem good at anything. You guys find the uranium. No. We fell in a ravine. Oh. Can we make money happening. Is that a thing we can make money from. No. Because I quit my job. Maybe I found a ravine. Honey. I found a uranium mine. Quit your job. Awesome baby. I can't find that uranium mine. OK. That's you. Here's something I should have said before you quit your job. Sure. Mark it. Mark that uranium mine. Yeah. No I do remember. I told you remember I said put a stick in it. Put a ribbon on a tree or something. Put a stick near it. Put a ribbon in a tree. I said tie some string. I said make an X. I said throw some crumbs. Could have made an X. I said a lot of things. I didn't do any of that. No. None of it. No. No. One

of your friends is dead. It's right here. It's right here. Yeah. It's right here. It's not. But fuck if mountains don't look the same. No. Yeah. Oh heaven. Weeks later Eugene started to have convulsions. Good. Just time to throw that in the mix. Should I get the job back. Now because his wife had worked at a hospital she knew what convulsions were. He's close to uranium. And she immediately thought he was faking. Could you imagine watching your grown husband flopping around on the floor and being like that's not real. None of that's real. Knowing it's fake. What are you doing. None of that's real. Knowing he's lying. Honey that's not how one convulses. Oh shakie shakie shakie. Shakie shakie shakie. And now you

don't say shakie. Oh baby it's a bad one. No shakie shakie shakie. You can't talk. Oh shakie get some water baby. I'm having a bad one. This might be the beginning. Shakie shakie shakie. Shakie shakie shakie. Oh shakie shakie. Whoa. Hey what happened. Oh no did I have one of my spells. Oh no I don't remember anything. What matters is we're together. And we shouldn't talk about the past at all. Don't touch. Don't touch. Oh no. So he went to a doctor who thought he might have a brain tumor. Okay. I retract. Who sent him to a brain surgeon who drilled two holes in Eugene's skull. Is that the next step then? That's the next step after a gut thought. He might have tumors. Let's open it up. Figure it out. Have a little

dig around. Two holes. Yeah. Double it up. For a draft. There was no tumor. Well at least his head got opened up. When he woke up his wife was beside him in tears because she's like you're fucking crazy. You faked convulsions and let a man drill into your skull. Oh I've got another one of my spells coming on honey. Cap my cap my head. I don't want any brains gushing out. Shakie shakie shakie. Oh shakie shakie now. Whoa. His friends had driven from Texas and to cheer him up they all said they should go look for the uranium mine again. You know what had left his spirits more than anything? Finding that big uranium mine. Eugene looked at them and said quote uranium. I don't know what uranium is. He spent August and

September in a psychiatric ward. Wait. Okay. This is a very... When he got out and entered society again people in his town started to figure out that if Eugene was having any sort of problems he would conveniently have a mental illness to get out of it. Okay. It never explained what the mental illness was but it just always said mental illness. So I don't know. Just whatever it was. He's just like I'm bananas now. I can't. I have dementia. Not today. I'm schizophrenic. Otherwise I would. Next Thursday I'm not if that works. It's every third Friday. Yeah. Dementia. I can't. His third... I'm my polar Tuesdays. I cannot. So his third wife had had enough. He also had two holes cut in his head. Is there any correlation

to the fact that they drilled into his brain and nothing happened? No. That doesn't necessarily have to... They opened his head and they were like oh a bunch of shit. Okay. Yeah. Some bugs came out. Little dust. So his third wife left. She divorced him and took the kids. And Eugene moved back to Will's Point. Okay. Or no to Will's Point. This is the first time. So for the next 20 years he lived as just a normal guy working as a testing engineer, a mining equipment salesman, a petroleum engineer. But during all that time he kept thinking about one thing. No. The chemical reaction block. The one that got away. In Will's Point he kept writing bad checks all over town, but he was so likable that people just overlooked it. It doesn't pay me for anything.

Hey he's fucking great though. He's great. He's a great guy. His excuses are the best. Oh my god. They're worth it. His boss kept him on even though he created problems at work because Eugene quote could come into a strange town and talk a man out of his shoes and shirt both. If you had a client who was disgruntled, Gene could have him purring like a six month old kitten in no time. He could lie to you and make you like it. Okay. So this guy obviously was like also I'm in love with him. I should point that out. Oh to be that kitten in his lap. Oh the purring I do. I'd like to think about him in a dress. Oh. Jilling me lies. I remember one time he conned me out of my shirt, my pants, my shoes, my underwear. Right into a bath. My heart.

There's never, it's funny. He had two holes drilled in his head by a doctor. He drilled two right through my heart. I do miss the guy. Boy. He could talk you into anything. He got me to make a line of dirty magazines one year. I just, I regret it. So he left his job where they all loved him. He just up and quit after 13 years and went back to working on his first love. The CR, the CRB, the chemical reaction block or reactor. I can't remember. He built a storefront lab in town and investors started to come into town to meet. That's just not as easy as you just stated though. He just built a lab. Well he had money. A storefront lab is not a great lab. I mean, you don't hear of like, where are you going?

I'm going down to the storefront laboratory. Well there's a new lab downtown. Oh boy. No line. What's the catch? It's right next to the gap. We're going to get pants and then go look at the microscopes. I'm going to get myself tested for syphilis. We're going to get Jimmy John's new jeans and go to a lab. So he bragged about it. He was not just looking for money, but he was trying to let the town know that he was a really important scientist. Good. Most of, you find that most scientists crave the spotlight. Especially in a small town. Yeah. No. Most of them are like, know me. I'm going to be the best fucking scientist in this whole town of 300 people. The hell you are. Oh no. Einstein. That's right. Texas Einstein here. You ain't going to do shit

on my watch, boy. You can open a lab in another city, but this town ain't big enough for two labs. Fuck you, Texas Einstein. I'm developing technology for smoke bombs, but it's not done yet. Otherwise, I'd have a dramatic exit. We're months away. Let's put a pin in this. In 1974, Eugene had worked as a petroleum engineer for the Bureau of Mines. He got a fucking job for the, okay. And he took some documents when he worked there. Now, he still had those documents, and he altered them and created an introduction to chemical block hydrogen fuel generation systems. Wait, sorry. The report. He made, wait. He took an official letterhead document, and then he put his own spin, an introduction to chemical block hydrogen fuel

generation systems, and he wrote a little report. So it looked very professional and real. From the Bureau of Mines. Uh-huh. And where's this going? Well, he'd be using it for sales pitches. Alrighty. In 1977, Eugene formed Anderson Energy Systems, a corporation to help him get money from investors who were mostly friends and family. Oh, that's always good. Yeah. So an early kickstarter. Well, you don't have to watch the video. Two more days, guys. Two more days. We just need $4,500. Oh, God. Oh, and, and. One day his brother-in-law pulled into Eugene's driveway and saw, quote, burning water. Burning water? Burning water. Oh, burning water. There was a hose connected to a pipe fitting. The pipe was pointing up like a Bunsen burner,

and flames were shooting out the top. Burning water. The brother-in-law was fucking amazed. Oh, no. No, no, no. No. That is one of those great reactions. What the hell is this? He quit his job and moved close to help Eugene get the CRB going. He didn't have a lot of money, but over the next two years, his brother-in-law invested $25,000. Oh, boy. Word of the incredible technology investment opportunity was out. Checks. Okay, go ahead. Started rolling in, though most were small. For what, though? For burning water? Okay. Then a staff member of a congressional committee heard about it and got a driveway demonstration when he was visiting. So this led to Eugene's big moment. No. On September 29th, 1977, Eugene found himself

in a lab at the National Bureau of Standards in Maryland. Okay. Watching with 32 bureaucrats and scientists, the Bureau, by law, must survey promising inventions that are presented to it. That's great. So most of the scientists did not want to be there. Okay. They had been forced by some congressional aide to watch what they already believed was complete bullshit. The burning water. So Eugene had a small box attached to a water hose in the sink. Sure. So it's a box hose with a Bunsen burner on the top of the box. Okay. And he turned on the water and then lit the gas coming out of the burner. Voila. Wait. Yeah. Is that anything?

What are you talking about? Water went in, fire came out. Is there a chance that there's a hole in the table? And there might not. It's a box, first of all. Secondly. There might be two hoses. What's going into the box? What's coming out of the box? Fire. We're done here. All right. Welcome to Tadda Enterprises. Any questions? So what he's saying is what's happening is, is he has something in the box, the CRB, that when the water hits it, it splits off the hydrogen and creates a gas, and the gas is burning. Okay. Wait. This is unreal. So he literally is saying that in the box that you can't see inside, there is something that leaves, that takes all the hydrogen, leaves the oxygen and just gives you the hydrogen and you light that and you've got fire because

in the box it's separating. Right? Yep. Okay. And you can't see what's in the box. Don't worry about it. Okay. I'm worried about it. Very worried about it. Very worried about what's in the box. I don't want to Brad pit it out, but what's in the box? You know what's in the box? The chemical reactor block. I don't believe it is. And it's also amazing to think of how long it takes to achieve your dream when it's just a bullshit hose box. It's not a bullshit hose box. What took so long? It's a CRB. No, it's not a CRB. It's not. Okay. Good talk. It's not a BHP. Huh? It's not a BHP. It's not a bullshit hose box. It is a BHP. That's where you were. You were like BHP. By the way, been there. Many times I've been there.

Been there many times. It was hard. It was hard. There were a lot of letters floating around. I got three hours. Because you don't want to get it wrong. No. Yeah, you get it wrong. It's yeah. Wait, take your time. Oh, no. Then it's on Twitter and it's a whole fucking thing. And I'm like, yeah. The scientists thought the demonstration was ludicrous. There are many ways to liberate combustible gas. This didn't show anyone anything. The scientists then asked him about his methods, and Eugene refused to answer. I don't answer questions. Sorry. I cannot tell you what's inside the box. Want to buy it? No. He said his invention was proprietary. Yeah. Well, nobody's coming after it. The scientists were not interested. Quote, he comes in, does a magic trick, clearly a magic

trick, not science. And then he won't tell us how he saw the lady in half. Yeah. He was either a conman or stupid, probably both. And much like the magic trick, it's twins. There's two hoses, using two. But I feel like if he took it to our current leaders, he could sell it for billions of dollars. Dude, I'd be at, I would literally be at home on my couch, stoned, watching Shark Tank like, well, whether they're in or not, I'm buying it. I mean, he's got a CRB. Firewater. It's so simple. Just take out the oxygen. Please, somebody listening, try to get this on Shark Tank. Please. So the congressional aide was not done. He had DC contacts and kept arranging demonstrations around town. He paid for a DC office for Eugene with a view of the

Potomac River. And I want to light that on fire someday. And Eugene's request became more and more. Eventually, Eugene demanded to stay in only the best hotels when he came to DC. His second major demonstration. It is amazing. Like, and this happens a lot on here. But when, but when you believe you're bullshit, and only the best for a great mind like this, dude, you have two hoses in the box. Get the fuck out of here. No, I have one hose coming into a box and another hose coming out of a box. Actually, it's a pipe. Anyway, I want the penthouse fire with a tub. His second major demonstration was set up in the spring of 1978 at the Naval Research Laboratory.

Good. Eugene brought the NRL. Took a minute. Eugene brought. It does. Eugene brought a chunk of CRB the size of his fist. Put it in a sink and placed a funnel over it. A funnel? A funnel. Okay. The gas came up through the funnel and he lit it, creating a blue tinged flame. The scientists at the lab thought it was ridiculous. Except for Dr. Homer Carhart, who just happened to be the chief naval representative there. Wait, wait. Of course, Dr. Homer's in. Yeah. So when everyone's like, ah, this is stupid. And he's like, how did you do it? Don't ruin the surprise. Let us give you a grant. I've been in the Navy 20 years and I've never

seen fire come out of a funnel. My God. Quote, sometimes in science you think you know everything and you don't. By the way, I don't think that's the attitude of most scientists. I don't think most scientists are like, well, that's it. Another thing? Boy, this won't stop. I'm swamped with facts. But Eugene again refused to let the scientists analyze the material. He was so secretive that he even wiped out the sink to make sure there was no metal scrapings left. He may as well be passing a hat around after these. Like just a bit. No questions, dollar. The next year, he met Les McGee, who described himself as a promoter.

McGee owned Union Pacific oil and gas. He had been trying to develop a downhole steam generator which would produce steam in an oil well and allow thick crude to flow more easily. Yum. Right? He thought the CRB could be the answer. So in December, oh, you're just getting started. Oh, no. In December, 1978, McGee introduced Eugene to James Buckley, a former U.S. Senator from New York. Okay. And the brother of conservative columnist William F. Buckley. Okay. Buckley came to Texas to see the CRB. He was very, very excited about what he saw. When he left, he shook Eugene's hand and said, quote, someday this place will be a shrine.

Little did they know that's how he exited every room. Great to see you guys. The baby's unbelievable. Someday this place will be a shrine. Can I get two cokes and a hot dog? Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. He said a water burger. Someday this place gonna be a shrine. Do not go in there. Someday that place will be a shrine. He's probably in my room right now. You know, someday this place will be a shrine. Can you just throw the douche out? Get the douche out of the room if you could. He's already out. He's doing a show. No, the one in the trash, the one in the garbage.

How, how crazy those hotel workers going right now, knowing there's a douche in a room that they can't go in and get? What is, what's happening in my room right now? I'm picturing like CSI people like it was used at 1204 for sure. We have a, it was DOA. They got a douche on arrival. They got a blue light that's shining around up on the roof. Uh-oh. Oh boy. She was roof doucheing. She was ruching. She rouched. You can tell by the splatter markings. Ah, you do this long enough. You'll recognize everything right away. So James Buckley was so excited that when he, when he got home to New York, he immediately wrote Eugene a letter. Quote,

its potential is truly revolutionary. It is so revolutionary in fact that I think it is terribly important to try to anticipate public reactions and political demands so as to be able to best plan and man the barricades. Optimistic. He then wrote a letter to a potential investor and said, we can't underestimate the impulse to nationalize the CRB. Wow. The Mondale mentality will proclaim the CRB is too vital a national asset to be left in private hands. So Eugene is just hearing all, I mean, he's just like, wow, this is really working. I mean, it's bullshit. Someone out of, they're flipping out of their fucking minds. Yeah. 12 days later, Eugene was in a New York brownstone giving another demonstration for Buckley's relatives and acquaintances. He stood in front

of a fireplace and used an old kerosene stove he had converted to show off the CRB. He lit it, it burned and no one was impressed. But Buckley managed to set up negotiations with a VC company. Oh. How is a good question, sir. They saw the demonstration, offered him $2.5 million. Shut up. Shut up. And they wanted 10% of company stock. Oh yeah. Yeah, take whatever you want in the company, take 50. Yeah. I'm actually willing to sell my stock. We just started. Is that cool? I would have just taken a Prius. But for some reason, before they dumped the money in, they want to know it was real. Oh, you don't need that. No need to release that stuff.

And they demanded scientific evaluation of the CRB on their terms. Eugene said they were trying to steal it. Smart. They would not turn it over. Smart. So he made a few trips to New York to work things out with the VC company, with McGee paying the whole ride, limos, meals, fancy hotels. Well, only the best. And then on one trip, Eugene asked to be taken to his uncle's house in New Jersey. No, no, no, no, no. Well, his uncle had been dead for 20 years. Oh, weirder. We're going to reanimate him with the CRB. Just put a bunch of water up his ass. Then he'll have the fire to live. I don't know. It doesn't work. I don't know what to tell you. But when they got there, the house had been torn down and was now a parking lot. And Eugene lost his fucking mind.

I believe that's already happened. It's years prior. McGee was convinced Eugene wanted to get something out of the house. And now he couldn't. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So the VC guys were not really pushing for results. And the more they did, the more insulted Eugene became. He started ignoring their calls. Or if he answered them, he would get really angry and scream. Then one day, this is what ignoring calls meant. Just standing by the phone for 40 rings, like stop before you could be like voicemail, get the fuck out of here. You had to be like, Oh my God. Then one day they call the CRB on the phone, it'll stop it. One day they called and Eugene demanded 2.5 million from the VC guys by 5pm. Sure. That's how you want to get in business with that guy. And they said no.

And that was the end of it. But people just kept coming. McGee brought in coachmen industries who made motorhomes. With the oil crisis, RV sales were plummeting. The CRB was exactly what they needed. No, it wasn't. It was not. Eugene, his brother-in-law, and McGee went to Indiana to see the coachmen executives. There. To see who? The coachmen executives. Okay. There, Eugene walked into the room, took out a pellet of CRB, and dropped it into a cold cup of coffee. The coffee. Sure. Do you take CRB with your cream? One lump or all? What? Sorry, this is a new pitch. The coffee warmed up and Eugene drank it in front of them. Is that? Well, I mean, I know it's okay, obviously, because it's nothing. But you would be like, well, this guy's out of his tits. I mean,

what did he just do? Did he just drink CRB? I can't wake up without it. It's a little chalky. Yeah, but what? What is it? What person is like, this makes gas. Plus, you can drink it. Well, it's got all two effects. So later in an employee washroom, Eugene filled a sink with water, held a chunk of CRB underwater, and gas bubbles formed, which he lit. The RV execs were ecstatic. No. They set up a second meeting. Eugene chartered a plane from Chicago just to show off. Why does he need public transportation at this point? Can he just put some CRV up his ass and light it? Here it comes, boys. See you in Jersey, motherfuckers. Off I go. Coachman offered Eugene $1.5 million for licensing and future purchase rights. But

before they gave him the money, he had to prove the CRB could work in an RV. Not a problem. So they gave him an RV, which he drove home. Oh, yeah. No, no. Take the night. And then tomorrow, take the night. See what we're dealing with, because we just want you to have a night in a luxury liner. I mean, have a good evening. You know, use all the amenities. And then tomorrow, after you've slept, because that's what you'll be doing all night, I'm sure, come back and do a demonstration. He put them off for three years. Sure. Sure. Yep. Okay. Alrighty.

So, push. Yeah. During that time, he went to London and stayed at a fancy hotel. He ate at expensive restaurants. He was living the life because he expected that he was going to sell the worldwide rights to CRB. In London. Yep. Of course, the first demonstration. We've obviously seen the CRB and we believe it's perfect. The first demonstration, of course, occurred not in the lab, but a nightclub. Sure. The nightclub called Le Riffifee. So called. There's a lot of ladies hung out there that you can pay for stuff. Can we actually hear the name again, though? Le Riffifee. Okay. Gorgeous.

It's a place where escorts hung out. So on a Sunday morning at the club's bar, he put the CRB in a pan of water and burned the gas. The demonstration was for an Australian engineer and he was amazed. Bloody hell. It's unfuckin' believable. Why don't you say we have one more round of prostitutes and then we close this deal? Figure this out. Make it happen. I want a lot of cocaine. Should we be doing this? Let's get more molly. Then Eugene paid for sex. He also, at the club, met Sidney Cohen, who was the man who could introduce him to investors in Europe. He brought in all kinds of wealthy industry men to Eugene's hotel room for demonstrations. They were Germans and English

and Irish scholar, even an African prince. Dave, slow down. There's so many accents. Who was there? A German guy. This is unbelievable science. An Irish scholar. Oh, I don't know if I trust it, but I like the bubbles. And an African prince. Burn it. But unfortunately, Sidney Cohen wasn't honest either. He was on the verge of bankruptcy, which he never told Eugene. In a couple years, he would be in prison for trying to bribe a cop. He continued to promise Eugene investment money, but then at the last minute, he'd have an excuse instead of the cash. Basically, Eugene had met himself.

So great. Who can dig deeper in the bullshit? Well, as soon as the bank check clears, let me know and I'll take it to my bank. Yeah. But because there were two bullshitters, they got people very excited. And when Eugene returned to Texas, he discovered there was a shitstorm. A year earlier, he had sent out a letter printed on stationery from the University of Texas. I'm sure it was from there. It doesn't matter if it's fake or real. It's always bullshit from there. Yeah. I will say the opposite soon. Tomorrow for pandering purposes. The letter said, quote, the apparent economics are such that this fuel system should result in widespread demand once it is made available on a commercial basis. It was signed by the president

of the University of Texas. Sure. Sure. Sure. He signed off on that. Sure. This is real. So the CRB had made a huge splash in London and the university was getting tons of calls from an Irish consortium, a West German chemical company, a half a dozen American companies, all wanting to know if the letter was authentic. All right. Real quick. One more time. Run it back. An Irish consortium? How are you? Yeah, we're down to do it. I'm here too. Sorry. Let me take you off speaker. We're in a consortium. Let me take you off speaker. Hello. How are you? The missus comes to work with me now. Yeah. Hold on. Give me one second. Let me mute this call for a minute. Shut the fuck up when I'm on the goddamn phone. Sorry.

Would you please? I'm trying to close up a fucking deal. Okay. Yeah. Be quiet. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying to you. I'm a leprechaun. Let me call you back. I'm part of the team. I already hung up. Oh no, I didn't hang up Christ. A fucking speakerphone. There it is. Stop it now. They found me at the end of the rainbow. I didn't even understand you. There's also a West German chemical company. No, I'm just filming and stuff. If you'd love to invest, my wife actually is in the office, but she said she found speak, so don't worry about that. And then there were half a dozen American companies, so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can do it. Hey, we want to buy your stuff. Your magic gas thing. We're very interested in getting in the bullshit business. Labnus tried to shovel some bullshit

down people's thrones. So with all these people, the university said it had absolutely no idea what they were talking about. Okay. Good. That's a good sign. Now any of these companies could have just looked at the letterhead because the word environmental was spelled wrong. Well, it's it's a tough one. It's it is a tough one. Where's the end? It's all over. It's kind of phantom ending up years before someone at the university in the department had made a mistake and they just decided to use the paper as scratch paper instead of for letters and Eugene managed to get his hands on one on the scratch paper. But unfortunately, now everyone was catching on this. So now everyone's starting to realize that he's a bullshitter, right? Because the university, well, that's when the U.S.

Patent Office came to the rescue. No, on January 8th, 1980, Eugene got a U.S. patent for the CRB. So he's he's he's now made bullshit proprietary. It's a fun market, which is what they do specifically here in Texas with the there is a there is a court in Texas that is the reason all those motherfuckers get their stupid lawsuits across. And it's what it's what Tyler Texas. So all these companies go to Tyler Texas and they file their lawsuit there. That's why the podcasters almost got fucked because one asshole in the 80s was like, I know how to take stuff from here and put it in the internet. And that was his whole patent. I take stuff, put it in the internet. Well, Dave, the internet is a series of tubes.

So so he gets a patent. The patent led him to get similar patents in 76 other countries. Jesus Christ. So a lot of investors thought the patent made CRB legitimate. And it does in a big way. I mean, it does. Like, in a way, when you see a little gold certificate and it's got like a little thing on it, you're like, oh, look at that. Well, they said. But that's not what a patent is. A patent just guarantees that an invention is unique and can't be duplicated. It doesn't mean that it works. No, it does not. Do a thing and go, look, a pig could turn into a monkey. It does not. But just because you sit at a desk and sign something and turn it around, it doesn't mean it's a law, but it has an effect. So there is like, there is like you are, you, it does, it does look

legitimately presentate. I mean, I'd walk, if I walk by five booths and they don't have that, and there's one with the little gold star, I go, why'd you get a ribbon? What'd you do? I killed a man. Sorry, not you, the man behind you. You're just eating all the free samples. I just want to talk to this guy. I'm sorry. So this is when a group of rich Texans came rolling in. Eugene stepped up his demo. Now his demonstrations are admittedly getting better every time. Sure. Of course. You're when you hone a magic act. So he, he stepped it up. Texan James Ling and his investors watched Eugene put an inert gas into a fish tank. Then he asked them to put a lit cigarette inside and made a mermaid and made a mermaid. I love you. Oh my

God. Splash before splash. Where do you have sex with it? Just wherever it's splashing from. Um, find the, what is, you know, you'll figure it out. Go where the caviar is, amigo. I think this is a butthole. It's not even a real fish. So she just be swimming around with like a string, that's poo string hanging out. Like fish. That's what people don't think about mermaids. If they're actually half fish, then they have a big poo string hanging out when it's swimming around. It's not fucking sexy at all. It's nothing sexy about it. It's a lady with a big poo string coming out of her. It's not cool. You know, I'm actually going to romanticize what happened in my room and think that there was a

mermaid in the bathroom that was about to turn back to woman and they used the douche to keep her fish. She was like, thank you, lover. As opposed to what happened in reality. So he put the cigarette inside the tank and the cigarette went out and they were all like, ooh. And then, because there's no oxygen in there, that's why it went out. So then he put a copper tube containing CRB inside the tank and ran water through it, which produced gas. He smiled at the men and lit it. One investor said, quote, you see something like that and you want to fall in love with the guy. I don't understand what happened. Well, what we're learning is that rich people are fucking morons. So he. And it really is. It's like 80 percent showmanship at this point,

right? Yeah. He may as well like throw confetti at the end of that. Well, that's sparkled. Take my money. Take my money. After Ling checked out the scientific probability with the Hudson Institute, which is a not legitimate at all think tank. Yeah. Why go to scientists when you go to a tank? So they ran it through their computer, quote, they put it through their computer and told us it was physically impossible. So he went ahead with the investment. Got to follow that gut. Follow your gut. You know, if they'd run it through their computer with some CRB on it, they would have found differently. That thing shoots fire out of bullshit. In the preliminary testing, there was a certain amount of success. They offered $450,000 to Eugene.

Like he must just be like, wow, life is really easy. Life is so simple. You just lie forever and get a bunch of compliments and eat tiger prawns at London hotels. Now, his lab in Will's Point is two blocks from the Cattleman's Cafe, and he really liked to show off, right? And everyone, all the people in the town in Hollywood was famous. So Eugene, he makes the deal for $450,000. And in January, 1980, he came out of his lab one day with a uniformed guard in front of him and two uniformed guards behind him, all carrying sawed off shotguns. And they walked across the street to the first national bank. I got to start depositing checks like that. I wouldn't need them, but it is $580.

So gentlemen, right this way. Don't gawk. Let a man just deposit his money for God's sake. Everyone in the town and cafe watched. Now, Ling was like a merger guy. He was one of the guys who started mergers, buying companies, and then selling off all the shit. He built a 330 million-year company, but then he lost it all, and then he made it back, and then he lost it again. So by the time Eugene came along, he was looking for another big score. Daddy needs a hit. So with a few other investors, they came up with the $450,000. So he got the seed money to manufacture the first batches of CRP. Most of the investors did not look into whether or not it was scientifically possible. Of course not. Why would they? They just saw it. One said, quote,

I'm no scientist. That's a bad start. Bad start to your quote. Oh God. But I am an idiot. That should be the American slogan. Honest to God. America. I'm no scientist. Literally. I'm no scientist. He put on quite a show. So Eugene worked away. He would come up with the plans, and then a crew would execute it. 16-hour days were common. He would work on calculations only taking breaks to go to the Cattleman's Cafe, where he always had three armed guards with him. How would you like your eggs? We'll bring options. We'll bring some options. We'll bring a couple options. But he said he needed them. Eugene was convinced Arab hitmen were going to kill him. Sure. Well, that's, and that again is not something that you need facts to back up.

That's just a gut feeling. Because he was a threat to the gas business, you see. Oh yeah. As Eugene ate, a guard would sit at a table next to him holding a shotgun watching the whole time. You got to wonder at what point small talk started. Eggs good? Yeah. I like omelet with grilled vegetables. All right. Let's not talk anymore. He started buying, quote, exotic and expensive equipment. Nothing worked. He had originally predicted he could come up with the first batch in 45 days, but months went by. He didn't seem to get the basic chemistry of his own invention. I don't, that is crazy for him to be struggling

with his own bullshit. Like he is like, boy, how did I lie earlier? How did I do it? I just, how did I, I should have written this down. I should have written it down. Damn it. This is the uranium all over again. Maybe I'll just get everyone into a truck and flip it into a ravine. And then get him to drill it in my head. So, by the way, does that ever come up? Hey, I saw a little thing in the bell. Oh yeah, I was drilled. They drilled into it twice because I was pretending to have convulsions. So basically it goes through here. Yeah, no, you'll see it. No, there's a little draft. Yeah, you'll see it. And it goes through here. So he started with a draw and became depressed

and uncommunicative. Sometimes he would just leave the lab without telling anyone and disappear overnight. It seemed like he knew something was missing and he couldn't figure out what it was. Reality. As if he was missing a critical step. In what? When he was questioned about simple matters, he would become belligerent and fly into a rage. Remember he went to his uncle's house? Yeah. Well, they had probably made an advance with this of some sort. And it's now a parking lot. And it's a parking lot. And he was like, oh no, the mother of all bullshits gone. Oh no. So the investors were becoming alarmed. One was an inventor who had invented the Styrofoam cup. He suddenly wanted the... It came to me in a dream.

Well, I knew of Styrofoam and drinking and I thought, what if I combined the two? It's a boring life I have. So this guy now wanted to take the CRB and have it tested at Texas A&M. Eugene said, sure. No, I'm not getting involved. Eugene said, sure. And then every time the test would come up, something would happen. Finally, in the spring of 1980, everyone came together to test for a lab test in Dallas. But no one was excited now. It was a very depressed group. The arm guard stood in one corner. Eugene was at a long table with an assistant and a camera was recording it.

Water was fed at a specified pressure into a copper tube with CRB inside. Seconds later, the copper began to swell. In moments, it expanded to twice its size and looked like a big red light bulb. Is that supposed to happen? Then the tube split and molten metal shot to the ceiling. Same thing. And dropped into small pieces onto the spectators. He dropped lava on people? Everyone was freaked out.

Why? Just all the lava on their skin? Oh, the same difference. Ah! Eugene just took off after blurting. He would do another demonstration that night at his lab. Two shows later. The same group came to the lab that night. He did the test outside just in case. Quote, he turns it on and it looked like the 4th of July. Dude, he lost this golden ticket.

Everybody ran away. When I looked at the film later, there was this shaka leaning against a tree where the gar had been because he ran away too. And left his gun. Our guns are useless against him. So there was a six month deadline coming up where Ling would have to put up more funds so a final test was scheduled. This time, hydrogen and oxygen were produced. But the amounts were measured and it was not good. There was very little oxygen proving it came from the CRB and was not the water being... One of Ling's men said it did not pass the test and Eugene called him a son of a bitch

and threw his notebooks on the floor and stomped off, stopping first at the sink to wipe a tiny bit of CRB down the drain. The investors then sued Eugene. Right around this time, Eugene's wife answered the phone at home. It was after midnight. It was a woman and she asked for him and his wife said, well, Eugene's not here and asked who was calling and the Eugene... The woman said, I used to be Eugene's wife. This was big news because Eugene had told his latest wife he'd never been married before.

I gave her CRB! She's back! And then she found out he had four kids also. The fourth Mrs. Anderson filed divorce for divorce, so Eugene took off for Europe. He went to Barcelona, Düsseldorf, London. He met a former hostess from the Rifi... Rififi cafe. Why does he get to go... And they got married. Oh, Jesus Christ to her. If it's... If everything goes wrong, marrying S-Court. What are we at, four? This is five. Five? Jesus Christ.

He chartered a company in Zurich and opened a Swiss bank account. How does this guy get to go tour Europe? When he would talk to investors, he would pull a postcard of Zurich out of his pocket and say, this is where my office is. You know, it's so great they made postcards of it. Then a penny stock guy approached him about turning into a penny stock business, which they did. He sold the rights for $100,000. Jesus. And the penny stock guy turned it into a million.

They would just tell people that there was a company that had partial rights to a new invention and people would buy it. In the early 1980s, stories about the CRB then began to appear in the press. A UPI business story appeared that included an interview with Eugene, quote, successful independent laboratory tests on his invention now have been carried out in Britain and Anderson expects to announce licensing announcements soon. Sure. None of this happened. May 1981, Eugene called a Dallas TV station reporter and said he had an invention this station might be interested in 1981. The reporter and a photographer went to Will's Point and there Eugene worked under the hood of

a 1970 Chrysler saying he was installing a CRB element. Run. Run. They had no idea what the fuck he was talking about. Dude, they're just local, local. You send local news people to like a man who's making bombs. Here we are. And Eugene's inside the car. What are you putting in there, Eugene? CRB. Okay. He's put CRB in there. We'll check back in 20 minutes once he's put a little CRB in there. You guys do the weather and sports and we'll come right back to this. Hey, what is CRB? That doesn't matter. I just, I like to do small talking between takes, but it doesn't matter. He drove around all day and told them wild stories and then they thought they had seen

something fucking awesome. He showed them the fire demonstration and then the next day they put it on the news. Uh-huh. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah, that's Dallas for you. That's news for you. Eugene immediately began using the news report to sell CRB to investors. Look, TV did it. But then the SEC called to talk to the reporter. All of Eugene's companies were under investigation. They took him to court in 1982 after a two-year investigation. And after all that, the SEC made an agreement that let him off scot-free during the trial. America. Why? There's no, absolutely no reason.

Just cuz. Just cuz, cuz. The court did rule that CRB did not disassociate water without using an outside energy source. That's an important finding. Yeah, but they still let him off. And Eugene's money was running out. The lab in Will's Point was closed because he couldn't pay the rent. And then came the Pentagon. Never a good end then. Eugene for years had claimed the CRB had military applications. Oh no. If a tank ran out of fuel, for instance, they could switch to water. Oh my god. The military looked into CRB but ended up not funding it. Though they did find something else, they found interesting. Bullshit. Over the years of working with CRB in his lab, Eugene's screen door fell apart. It had been subjected to gases from experiments,

and the aluminum had just disintegrated. So Eugene said it was due to a compound he was using when making CRB and led the Pentagon to believe his new compound could weaken metal without leaving any trace. So they are just there like, well, this is obviously bullshit. How'd you lose the screen? He was like, chemical formula that's proprietary? Well, let's keep talking. He explained you could dab some on the wing of an airplane, and later the airplane might just fall out of the sky. Yep, you never know. Any dab will do ya. If it was put on a tank, a bullet could penetrate that area. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. I put it on my dog, he's see-through, so I don't know what to tell ya. It's like limitless. Anything metal was in danger. The Pentagon

granted Eugene a top secret contract in June 1982. He got $250,000 for 100 hours of study and testing on what was now called CRB2. No, no! No! No! Not a squeak, whoa! And yet Eugene was upset because he thought he was getting ripped off. He's gotten himself to that point where he buys his own bullshit so much, he's like, I'm better than this. I used to have people pay me $450,000 for my BS. The Pentagon had no idea of CRB2 worked. They were just taking the possibility of it working off the market. Probably because they found out Eugene had tried to sell CRB to the Soviet Union at one point. Allegedly. CRB2 was classified and Pentagon officials could not discuss it, but one described it as quote, one of the true nasties. I think

they should stick with not discussing it if that's all we get. Oh, it was one of the true nasties. It was believed it could change the world if it got out or the Pentagon was trying to cover its ass for buying something ridiculous. It's a better angle. Eugene then decided he had signed a shit deal and sent the Defense Department a check covering the first payment to get out of his contract. Wait, he was so offended by their money offered now that he's like, no, I want the rights back. Yeah, I want everything back. No, I want the whole right. You guys are mishandling the BS. But the check bounced. He sent a bad check to the Pentagon. I've done that. That would be a great thing to do. Just send the Pentagon bad checks. Did they try to cash it? They

did. Yes. Hilarious. I don't have a million dollars. In 1983, Eugene sold the Caribbean CRB rights to a man from Oklahoma. Sorry, run that back. What he saw. So some guy in Oklahoma bought the rights to a dude in Oklahoma. What's all the Caribbean rights to CRB? Yep. He's like, I think I just bought a Calypso. I don't know what's happening. I'm very old. I came home and looked at his wife. He's like, honey, we're rich. If we... I've got a great nest egg. You're going to love it. Many of his investors continue to believe in him, however, even after dumping in millions and they refused to sue because they feared that he would hit it big at some point. Yeah. No, he's like a black check table you're $150 down at. You're like, I got a hit at some point.

One investor even recreated Eugene's lab near his own home. What? Quote, there is something there. Anderson just didn't know what he had. For years, he held... For years, others held on to the manufacturing penny stock, believing it would all turn around at some point. And then in the early 80s, Eugene's Zurich CRB company made a deal with Fukai Sanyo Limited of Japan. He's hitting every continent. How? In exchange for the technological know-how to produce the CRB, the Japanese company made a multi-million dollar payment, which would be followed up by royalty payments for worldwide sales. They bought the rights. They bought the rights. A little while later, one of Eugene's British investors got a call from the Japanese company. It seems Eugene had vanished

and they had not received any CRB. He can't even send a little fake block of it over there, just to be like, there you go. Well, no one knows where he went. That was the last anyone heard. What? That was it. He got the money. He got the money and he was out. And he's gone. Yeah, he got a fucking multi-million dollar payoff. And he's vapor. Yeah, the fucking Japanese, like, yeah, and he just fucking took it. So where's the block of CRB? Where's Eugene? Is he here? What the fuck? Hey guys, did we just send the money to some guy in Texas? Very excited. Without having anything? Oh, fuck. That's not how it works in Japan. As he's over a Bunsen burner burning his fingerprints off like, uh-huh. Daddy like. Daddy like a lot. Daddy love. But the one thing that happened was

he did reapply to the U.S. government for disability payments for a back injury. Who gets a million? Who gets two million? It is like, uh, I miss it my grand a month. He probably spent it all. That's Texas. Just all bullshit. But, but truly that, I mean, that shit keeps, I mean, that is, I mean, that's to like an insane level. But the amount of times that people are involved in things where they're like, it's a pyramid scheme. It's with pyramid company and they're unbelievable. Like people fall for the bullshit. People just want to make money. Yeah. They're like, no, no, this could be money and they give money for nothing. That's what fucking Silicon Valley is right now. It's just a fucking giant pile of horseshit.

Dude, tell, will you tell the story that Matt told us about? Did we talk about the Silicon Valley thing? Which one? The bag stuff, the bag. Oh, the juicing. You guys know about the juicing company? So a company, they put millions, millions of dollars, basic companies, millions of dollars. It's called CRB. It's called and they made a juicer. I think it's called juicer and they sell it for $400. People buy it and then the only way the juicer works is if you get, you get sent special bags that you pay for from the company and you put those in the machine and then someone got one and just cut the bottom out was like, oh, that's how it works. It's just a squeeze machine. It's just a machine that squeezes out the juice out of a bag. There's nothing special about the

juice in the bag. It's $400. That's Silicon Valley. Yeah. Silicon Valley right now is like tap three, like two into like a three tap ref being like, and they're out. Done. It's fine. May 9th. Well, that's a normal story. You missed the ending. You missed the end. And you're still whispering and your husband is looking up here as you're whispering to your husband and you still haven't noticed that we're talking to you. You haven't even noticed that we're talking to you. And his arms are still crossed. And now you'll notice we're actually talking to you. Now you just saw that we've been talking to you the whole time. Yeah, we're talking to you right there. Oh my god, they've been talking to me. Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, that's what we're saying. What the fuck?

Yeah. Yeah, we were talking to you the whole time. I don't know. Nobody knows at this point. Do not fret, my pet. Guys, we are selling CRB after the show. We got a bunch of it and we're excited. We thank you guys so much for coming out, truly. We're going to sell some posters over there. We'll take some pictures. So if you guys want to do the posters picture thing, the table over there, you line up this way, lamp in front of the stage so that the staff can get in and clean everything. You can get a hug during a picture. We'll hug you during pictures. We grab a bottom-solving. So line up. Yeah, we'll put a bunch of CRB. You're welcome. And yeah, honestly, guys, thank you so much for coming out. This is fucking awesome.

Dave's going to leave now. We'll be out here in like five or 10 minutes. Thank you guys so much for coming out. Appreciate it.