The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 655 - Harry R Truman

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

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So I travel a lot. I mean a lot perhaps too much to some of you, but that's kind of my gig, right? So I'm out there. I'm living out of suitcases or suitcase sometimes if I bring the big boy and I want all the comforts of home That's why I stay at an Airbnb whenever possible recently I had some gigs in Fort Collins, Colorado And I was with my friends and we were shooting some stuff and before we got to the gigs We were like, let's just get an Airbnb and it is just a more comforting existence you have a kitchen you have a yard you know it's communal living it's just a less stressful place more enjoyable experience so when I go on tour you know like I'll be going on tour

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Action, pardon. Hi, Gaby. No, no. Roeder, Roeder in the court! October 1896. Harry R. Truman was born in West. Wow. Was born in West Virginia in a log cabin in the town of Ivydale.

Could be Ivydale. I don't think it is. Could be Ivydoll. Could be Evie Dale. I don't think it is. Could be Evie Dowell. Only 200 people live there today, so probably a much smaller town, obviously, at that time. His parents were Newberry and Rosa Bell Truman? His dad's name is Newberry?

Newberry. Strange. You know. Strange. But different times. People like Barry's then. And what's his mother's name? No one knows what the, uh, Roosevelt. Roosevelt. A weird name but Newberry just outshined. Yeah. No one knows what the R stands for, the middle name R. It's like Michael J. Fox's J. It might have been because someone in the union

already had Harry Truman, so he just added the R, like Michael J. Fox. True, man. Truman didn't know, and he also wasn't sure which day he was born in October exactly. So what's going on at this time? The parents, how soon into this story did the parents explode from information?

He just picked the 30th as a day to celebrate his birthday. He was like, what about the 30th before, or the day before Halloween? What about that? Sure, sure, sure. So that's the day, but he doesn't know. Could be in the 10th of October. It's strange. So in 1907, a lot of the Appalachians had been logged

and the Truemimans were loggers So they headed west they're like let's go to a place where you can cut down more trees Yep This country we're like now that we got rid of the people living here, let's cut everything down Clear this whole nation out right there. We're gonna build a man cave. So Harry's grandfather Elijah and his three sons, Floyd, Marion and Newberry,

and all their families, they all head west. So the whole crew just heads west. The crewmen. Everybody, they took a train It was a nine-day trip fuck me up my mouth That is crazy nine days on you never say fuck me up my mouth again. What do you mean? I'm just putting out a request. I'm just I'll just let's just not say fuck me up my mouth. I'm just

I'll just let's just not say fuck me up my mouth. I'm just I'm just trying to I'm react. I'm having an honest reaction to some information nine days on a train Becomes an up your long time. Well, especially with family. It's a long time. I'm saying dude F me up the M So they brought their own food Over the eating more bad bread Corn bread cured ham and canned beans honestly not terrible that that was just gonna say that that like that Cart, welcome to the fart cart and you and thirsty

Yeah, we're out of coal and we're still moving I'm mostly just eating cornbread. I would. On that trip. I'll be honest. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. I think that's some good cornbread. It's a good cornbread, but I'm dipping it in something and it starts with a B. You're having beans.

Yeah. The men had rifles and they had jugs of corn whiskey with them. Great. Now I'm starting to, all right. Hey, you're coming around. Quote, we saw Indians all dressed up in their fancy garb. Okay, interesting. Okay, it's a white person's way of looking at it.

Are they headed to a show? Where they going all fancy with their heads all dressed up? More beans? So that's, that's Harry that said that. Harry's 11 at this point. Got a little sister who's three, and at one stop Harry has three coon dogs. Okay. And he takes his dogs out to pee, and he ties them up next to his uncle's dogs who are also I have a bad feeling about where this goes well he thinks that his uncle's gonna grab the

dogs and bring them back on but his uncle leaves his dogs because his uncle thinks he's gonna get his own dogs and quote about ten miles out I start looking for my goddamn dogs and I couldn't find them. No. Oh, this poor dog. So he raises hell. He does. Good.

He pulls the emergency cord on the train. I would vote for this guy. And he says, I'll jump on. If we don't go back. We need more dog owners like this. If we don't go, I'll jump we don't go a jump off the fucking train So the train backs up now 10 miles is probably exaggeration But the train backs up all the way to get the dog crazy ending

Quote those dogs were happier than hell You bet that's it I mean my dogs get excited when I go out to the driveway and come back think about how mad people get If like an uber driver takes a right too early Like this guy was on a train going backwards for ten miles to his dogs and everyone was like ha ha And you're like, oh, hey Gabriel. It was actually on the left two stars And you're like, oh, hey, Gabriel, it was actually on the left two stars. So they are going to Washington state.

OK. And they're coming out to work in the logging industry and as well as they want to buy a farm, they want to be doing both things. All the. Laws in Napa. Yeah, that's all there was. They settle in Napa Vine, which is a really big train depot at the time and Then the three brothers take their money and they buy a donkey engine Of course go ahead and tell us what a donkey well, yeah eat enough beans and you become a donkey engine as in you got ass power Absolutely not Stop yeah, so a donkey engine as in you got ass power. Absolutely not. No, I know.

You want to really tell you? You need to stop. Yeah. So a donkey engine for people that don't know is a motorized donkey. It has all the upside of a donkey, but you don't need to- What are the upsides? Upsides to donkeys. What order do you want me to kind of roll out this info?

Start at the top. Okay, so around, what are we, about 1911, something like that? Yeah, we're around that. Okay, so donkeys, well people loved donkeys back then. They were called Holland mules. And so people would use Holland mules a lot. The problem with the Holland mule is it would get tired. But the beauty of having a donkey is you didn't have to pay the horse tax. So that's why a lot of people would use donkeys.

People would use donkeys to carry most of their stuff because if you were going into a town with a horse, you'd have to pay a quarter a horse. But donkeys, for whatever reason, were a loophole. Hold on, let me finish. 25 cents per horse? No, equivalent to at the time. Can I just, it's like a toll. Can I keep going 25 cents per horse? No, equivalent to at the time.

It's like a toll. Can I keep going or do you want me to answer your stupid question? No. Okay, so people came up with motorized donkeys. That way they wouldn't tire out and you wouldn't have to pay the horse tax. What's it look like? It looks very much like a donkey. Well, sort of.

I mean, it was at that time people would basically use mops for hair and they would just kind of use, they would just cut. It kind of looked like a pinata to be quite honest with you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you're really off.

By how much? So it is a contraption. Yes. That is used to pull logs out of the woods. And it's a giant, it's like a giant steam engine that's on sort of like a sled. I don't think I'm that off. It has really long cables that you attach to a log and it pulls the logs out of the forest.

It helps. So it's, it's for guys like this who are a small operation, but they can be loggers. Now, bigger operations also had donkey engines, but guys like this could use it. Yeah. They could afford it. So not at all like what you were saying.

But also not wrong. Ha ha ha ha ha. At the time, they cost about $7,500. Fuck. It's way more than a donkey. Way more than a horse tax. So theirs was one of the first in the area and then they moved to Nisicaa, which is in Lewis County. There were only two or three houses there at the time.

So it's a small. It's tiny. Small. I'm not gonna at the time. So it's a small tiny small. I'm not going to call it town. It's just a trick or treat. That was it. They bought 160 acres. This area more suited to them as they're they're from the mountains and their loggers. So they cut trees and they use the wood to build their houses.

So they've got a little family there. Where are they staying before they build a house? That's a general question. What do you do when you go there and you're gonna build a house? What is that, tents? I assume in tents, yeah. I would assume tents back then.

Papa, how close have we had to having a house? It's with long time, but you're not gonna be inside when we're done. Okay. You're more, that's why we call you Piggy. Yeah. I was, okay. I'm ex-

In the mud. Okay. There you go. Boy, it's really getting big now, huh, Dad? Yep, you're still not coming in. How many houses is she? We got four houses. How many rooms in each house is it?

There's about eight rooms in each house. There's only nine of us. Yeah that's right. Maybe I should come into one of them even if it was just to sleep in a little hole. Oh no you got your mud don't you? Yeah but the mud is just I miss having I miss the comfort of inside in a family. Yeah but you're an outside piggy. I don't understand I miss the comfort of inside in a family. Yeah, but you're an outside piggy. I don't understand. I guess over the past two years, as I thought about it more and more, I was kind of like, what does that even mean?

Yeah. Well, you'll grow up and you'll think more and more about it and that'll be your journey. Well, why don't I do that inside and think about it some? No, no, you can't Decision shut up you dirty bigot the pig it Feels it's for sure a slur. I've just never heard it before So they they do they build all the houses then and now they have a farm, and they have dairy,

they have dairy cows and hogs and horses, and they have fruits and vegetables, so it's a whole thing. And they got a boy in the mud. Harry becomes a bit of an outdoorsman, and he's very good at fishing and hunting and trapping. They also distill alcohol, which is something they did in West Virginia.

And Harry learns how to do that very well. He's very good at making moonshine. That's got to be great out of like when you're three houses and the fourth comes in and they're like, we make whiskey. Yeah, that's right. As a kid, Harry was really into swearing. He liked to cuss. He's a fun hobby for a youth Childhood friend hobby Said he quote just couldn't talk without cussing. Oh boy. I tell you

Sometimes I just get a head of steam on my cussing and I can't fucking stop. Oh Like no, it'll just come at me like piss out of my big long pecker Just start blowing the fuck out of me and just start shit Okay Fucking and sometimes it just makes you want to just show your asshole to someone and just make them take a fucking look inside Of it. Oh shit that piss is gonna be total shit fucking assholes And hey, but it tries stock dick. I swear to God I'm gonna punch him in their nipple fucks. Hey son of a tit shit these people ass

This is why you're in the mud. I was called a picket by my fucking dumb father It was a shit fuck tit logger loser Nipple jag off I said could that's right. I said it cock boy. Yeah and nipple, jag off, cunt. I said cunt, that's right, I said it, cock boy. Yeah. What's a titlogger? Titlogger's someone who keeps the information

on how many times you showed your tits in a notebook. Okay, I could have gone another way. I'm actually very happy with that. It also is when a guy sticks out a woman's chest. Okay, stop. So him and his buddy would ride their horses seven miles to school. Occasionally they would ride bikes.

One time, he and his friend rode their bikes 45 miles to Chahalas to see the circus. Wow. They left at 3 a.m. And by the time they got there, his friend was so tired, he sat down in the circus and slept through it. And sleeping through the circus, all that way. So Harry went to Massey Rock High School and everybody

knew him. And he had a few hunting dogs. He when he was 15, he killed a bear hunting a very good bear was hunting thought. No, the Harry was hunting the bear and he killed it. He thought grace. He was very good student, and Grace Sears Finstead said he was a, quote, stinker.

The fuck she talking about? Yep, yep, deal with it. I'll log your tits. You know you were! You know you were. He played baseball, always after girls, ladies. So they'd let the girls play? When I heard this, I was girls, ladies' names. So they'd let the girls play first.

When I heard this, I was like, but how many girls are in the town? Two. It's like, there's probably like 20. I fucked all the girls in this city. Grace said, quote, he thought he was the cock of the walk. Wow. He was good looking and the girls liked him.

You couldn't help but like him. He talked to anyone and he was always neat and clean, but he was a cocky guy It's funny just having seen pictures of him like at no point when I'd be like attractive Yeah In the middle of high school he took a year off work, which was crazy So the crazy sentence. So the crazy sentence. He took it off to work, which was the thing that you'd just

pray. And apparently he took it. Imagine being a junior and just be like, all right. Well, I'm going to go work at a box factory. So yeah, he took a year off. He came back his senior year and he bought his first car, a Mertz Roadster. Mertz? The best.

Who doesn't know about Mertz? Only three cranks to start it. The new luxury Mertz. A bit of rope to tie around your waist when driving for extra security. That's the Mertz promise. A bit of soapy fluid in the glove box to use for those days when it's been a bit dusty on the old windshield. The Mertz difference.

Mertz. A friend, quote, Harry would fix up that car and get it running good and then he'd take it out to the highway, run it as fast as he could, wreck it, break it back, fix it up and do it all over again. Crazy, that's the definition of insanity. That is crazy. It's completely insane.

There are not a lot of people at the time owned cars in the area. And he was certainly the only student in the high school that had a car. He graduated in 1917. His graduating class was seven students. I can't believe I'm valedictorian. He fucked.

I banged every girl in this class of seven. We all have. It's the law. We all banged everyone. Everyone's been banged by everyone, Harry. He loves America. Harry loves America and everything it's given him. And after graduating, he joins the military.

He wanted to become a pilot and fly during World War I, but that didn't happen. Okay. Instead, they trained him as a mechanic and assigned him to a squadron. It's so it's just so counter to my I wouldn't I don't know if you call it non heroism, but the way that I like if if I was like in the war and they were like, you're gonna be a mechanic, I would be like, oh, thank God. But back then you were like, God damn it,

I just wanted to shoot him. I wanna fly these remedial planes and see what happens. By the way, my relative died. He was a top gun instructor, which I never asked him about Duke Cunningham. I always forgot to, but he was, you know, he was around during that time because he was one of the instructors there. He did say, however, that there was only one ace fighter that came out of Vietnam. And he said they did every single thing they could to make sure that Duke

Cunningham was the guy that shot down five Migs because Vietnam was running out of those planes and they knew if someone didn't shoot down a fifth soon no one would so every single assignment they went on where they thought there'd be Migs in the air they sent to Duke Cunningham to try to get him. We're pretty sure because it's I mean I keep going out there. It's just kind of like There's not So yeah They that the funeral they

Everyone talked about how even killed he was and how he had to get since him or known some angry and I was like I remember when he got angry once Well, you also. We are at a family. We are at a family reunion. My dad was because when Trump was running and my dad was making fun of how John McCain kept getting shot down and also said that pilots who got shot down were losers and like half of those pilots got shot down and he had to be held back from kicking my dad's ass. It's so funny because in the JD Vance episode we mocked his

We mocked his service. Let's be honest yeah, because of it's just sounded a little more pedestrian than other service and Everyone was like fuck like the comments people were furious. Oh my. Oh my god. So funny, but trump Is yeah Right running mate. Yeah Trump I mean that's the thing all these conservative guys are you can't talk about the military You never been in i'm like your guys The guy you're but what are you talking about? If anything, it's like i'm like we're allowed to

Yeah, we're allowed to are you talking about? If anything, it's like, I'm like, we're allowed to. Yeah, we're allowed to. Up crawled so we could walk. You also showed me a view of his house. And I was like, now see, if veterans were getting that level of, like, it is so incredible because the vet, like, like I mean we know already but I have a friend who works for the VA and he's just like dude it's just it's crazy he's like they yeah he bought they're given so it's like this it it's almost like you like I hope you like getting thanked for your service because that's your retirement

plan. Yeah, I mean, this guy was like, my relative was like a huge fucking muckety muck in that sort of circles, right? We can say his name is Maverick. They're all like, there was like no, yeah, his name is Maverick, but there's like no, there was no big pomp and circumstance. It was a, they had three guys shoot the guns at the funeral Be great if they have an egg a guy a guy who was clearly not like you think there'd be a bugle of there

They do yeah, you know taps thing from but there's there's no military guy it was just some guy who clearly was like a volunteer and rolled up and like a It was like a Toyota and got out and bugled and got back in and drove away It was just all very just like man if they don't even do it for this guy They're not gonna like it. Yeah, they just don't care anymore. They don't care. What's your done with your service? It was a dog with a kazoo Yeah, but no get mad at the guys on the dollop who said something about JD Ben Okay, so he doesn't get to fly becomes a mechanic and mechanic and in world war one he's assigned to a squadron.

He, he did have one close call. He was on a troop ship, right? So they're transporting troops, uh, the SS Tuscany at, and it's between Scotland and Ireland. It gets Torpedoed by a U boat, German U boat and it sinks. There's 24 guys on board, about 200 guys die. And so that was his close call. That was like, you know, the closest he came.

A destroyer rescued him. And then for the rest of the war, he was stationed in England. A U-boat is what takes you down, and a destroyer is your angel. Thank God for the destroyer so for the rest of where he was stationed in England and mostly in France fixing planes he learned how to fly himself a bit so it comes back to the US in June 1919 and his really good friend Charlie said the war changed him. He was different. Which, it seems like World War II,

that was pretty scary. Was this World War I or II? Oh, sorry, I'm not. I would say either of those. It's not you don't come back and you're like, whoo, deposit? But World War I was especially just egregious and horrifying. He's now a loner.

They never talked about the war, They were both in the war. They never talked about it. He gets a job working as a mechanic at a Ford dealership in Chihalas. He meets the daughter of a sawmill owner, Helen Hughes, and they get married. They have a daughter, Betty, and Harry, he keeps to himself at work. He doesn't really talk to anybody. He's not saying anything, so much so that the guy he works next to in the next stall or whatever it is never knows he's married. Oh, wow.

Even though he gets married while he's working there. He just never says anything. His father owns the Star hotel and she Hollis. He's still working as a logger. Very pretty common. Newberry part-time logging. These guys never stop working. These guys were just always.

Yeah. I mean, that's calm back then. You know, until you do some logging on the side. Absolutely. Sure. Yeah, I mean, that's calm back then. You know, until you do some logging on the side. Absolutely. Sure. May 8th, 1923, Newberry is trying to pull off a really dangerous maneuver with a donkey engine. He's using a donkey engine.

You know about this. Of course. Yeah. Another worker was like, I'm not doing that. It's too dangerous. So Newberry's like, I got this, quote, that's not too dangerous for me. And then he is crushed between two logs and quote, never rallied. Like the never. I mean, Jesus. Great last. Come on. Come on. Newberry rally. It's the doctor of CPR. Rally boy. Rally.

I bad news. Bad news, ma'am. Yeah? Your husband never rallied. Oh my god. He didn't have a comeback? He did not. No, we were trying to get him to rally for a good 45 minutes. Have you pep-talked him? He was un-rallyable. We tried all the pep-talks.

We waved the flag. Let him know the state. Uh, yeah, no, we tried all that. Just, he's beyond rallying. So he's all... I never actually got word of how he passed. Was it something mild like a heart attack or maybe he just died in his sleep? He was smashed between two gigantic logs. One of the reasons he couldn't rally is he was

Like a pancake He was really small man at the end thin Smushed is a good He was rolled and smushed. That's just Yeah, have any prophetic Have you seen a tortilla? I have not. I'm mainly with Wyatt's. He was a man. Did he have any prophetic last words? What was the last thing he said? I must know. Was it,

my dearest wife, Rosa, whatever my name is, did he say anything like that? Or what was the last thing he said, I suppose, would give me a little bit of comfort? He said, fuck, that's, those are big trees. Oh, I thought he said something about it being dangerous, but sad's about right. Nope. Okay. Oh, he said that before. He said, yeah, that's not too dangerous for me. And then, then, but the last thing he said was, fuck.

Ouch. Holy shit, they're, they're big. Turns out it was too dangerous dangerous up along those lines, maybe So the guy said it wasn't necessarily a word he said but there was like a sound like a splurt mmm, yeah, that's not words that sounds more like no, but it came out of his body the noise Well, I guess if he won't rally there's's not much we can do for old Newberry. He's definitely not rallying. Sounds like old Barry now.

Yeah. Well, let me tell you, I'm single. I'm very horny. Jesus Christ. What? Yep. I would love to fit you between my two logs if you catch my drift. This is not what I was expecting.

Close the deal. Well, we had every decides to make. Yeah, Harry decides to make a change in his life. He heard you could, quote, pick gold off bushes in Nevada, so he heads there to be a prospector. off bushes in Nevada so he heads there to be a prospector. He quickly realizes the being a prospector is way too much work in and then he comes back to Washington so he liked to drink he really liked driving fast cars and enjoys the dangerous side of things.

But Booze is illegal now, so he starts a bootlegging operation. Look, I'll be honest, I know very little about Harry Truman, but so far this setup, I'm really enjoying. Yeah. Quote, soon Truman was picking up liquor and smuggling it into San Francisco and running it up to southwestern Washington.

Whorehouses on the coast in Aberdeen and Joaquin were among his regular stops. It's great. So he's getting it on with the ladies. Oh, is he? He's going to, yeah. And he's paying for some action. Yeah, power donkey. But then the big gangsters start moving in on the business.

And they're kind of pushing the independent operators out. That's what happened with weed. Kind of got to get. Kind of got to, yeah, exactly. So he kind of got to get under a big operation. And he finds, whatever happened, we don't know. But he finds himself in to get under a big operation and he finds he ends up whatever happened We don't know but he finds himself in trouble And with them in San Francisco quote things got hotter than hell

And so he bails from San Francisco and comes back to chialas. He bought he comes he comes with a 45 calories caliber summer some machine gun Which was pretty popular with the gangsters back then. Jesus. So he opens up a gas station. He calls it Harry's Sudden Service. Jesus, he scared the hell out of me. What'd you like? Oh, sorry. He sells whiskey and moonshine on the side. So you still got a little bit of business. I went to the farmer's market the other day and I was talking to this one guy and I said,

I can't remember. I keep trying to remember what I said, but I said something about like, it's like a drug deal at the farmer's market. And he goes, no, that's non-pasteurized milk. And he looked at me like, real seriously, like, you asking? And I was like,

no, no, I'm like, I'm good, I'm good. He's like, you got people meeting each other in parking lots over that stuff. I was like, oh my God, it's so great. You want some bird food? Yeah, I mean, that's really what great. You want some bird food? Yeah, I mean that's really what I was thinking.

You want some bird food? That should change. Yeah, that'll change. So he's kind of not staying on the Dow low enough. And those guys down in California hear about him and they hear he hears they're coming for him. California hear about him and they they hear he's he hears their common form so he quickly closes the gas station and it's 1926 he grabs his submachine gun like the end of break and his wife and his daughter and they head up to the

mountains to spirit lake which is on right on the edge of Mount St. Helens or kind of on Mount say and They stay there and he loves uh, he loves this place There's tons of fish. He could poach deer and elk and bear. I mean he has a time and Easy to hunt. Yeah Yeah, it's he really easy to kill a deer with that anything Just shooting fish the land is so peaceful up here. Into the lake. Look at all these fish, hon.

They just come out that and a swimmer. So so the land is available for lease from the Northern Pacific Railroad, which as as we recall from the Stanford episode where they were just giving the railroads tons of land everywhere. And less like they were going to make a railroad up by up on Mount St. Helens. So he leases about 50 acres. So there's no electricity, there's no running water, there's no. This is I'm out. The road's unpaved.

It's impassable in the winter very often. But he sets up a small gas station nearby and then up at the lake he's got a grocery and a rental boat business. He has a partner, but then they fall out pretty quick and that guy goes across the lake and opens his own place. This cannot be that many people, so it's a real big fuck you. It's kind of mostly teens and kids camps. There's like boy scouts and YMCA camps around there.

But it's still very obvious what you're doing. You're like, all right. Yeah. Oh oh fuck yeah Harry builds a big log house at the source of the Tootla River it's very isolated this is obviously very isolated the the bootleggers are not gonna come find them up here but there's also school. So Betty is sent to stay with people in Nisika. And then then they sent her to a Catholic boarding school. And then she comes back from that lives with her grandmother. So they've kind of just kind of. It's just good to know there's options when you're parenting to just be like, so we're

kind of we're kind of done. Thank you for being my daughter. Okay, now you're going to go live with a few different people. Potentially they'll all give up on you, but your time with us is done. See, I can handle that. If I could have the ripcord as a parent where at like 10 I could be like, ah, good run. Well, we tried. Good luck to you.

See ya. So yeah, so I'm assumed she held a little bit of anger from that but Helen, Helen, his wife can't take, she can't take it just being up there in the middle of nowhere. It's named after her. Alright, and she moves back. She's like, I'm done. So

Wow, so Harry really liked it up there. His daughter, his wife are gone and he's like Still yet. Have you had this pretty nice? Kind of got better good So now he restarts his bootlegging business Sidejacks who worked for the Forest Service said he often went up to buy whiskey said the Forest Service guys are going to buy whiskey from him. Quote, will you go to Truman's nearly every night and get a bottle of moonshine?

They they made about three dollars a day and Harry charged a buck fifty for a pint so they're spending half of their Pretty good I mean I get it. This is where I'm just like, yeah, I'm a ranger out in the middle of nowhere. This time, there's nothing to do. There's nothing to do. No. There isn't. Harry labeled it

panther P. I just am starting to... I don't know when the bottom is going to drop out. I do like him. Panther P is awesome. He has like a couple, at least a couple stills, maybe more. He had one in a cave, which is also where he would store animals that he killed. So he poached.

He stole gravel from the forest service and he hunted on Native American land using a fake game warden badge It's such a great little pocket of time Everywhere like today it was like that was bullshit, but it was like you could still just be like Lieutenant Truman game. I'm allowed to take a bunch of this gravel and I'm gonna need to have some of those Elks I'm allowed to take a bunch of this gravel and I'm going to need to have some of those Elks. Rangers could never catch him in the act, which apparently apparently had to catch me in the act of what he also loves of shooting a poaching, poaching, shooting, dragging.

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but man, what an awesome stance to be able to just be like, I don't like the old. The old suck. Like that, I really, I genuinely think, and I know you'll agree, that you could run on that now. We're done with old. Yeah You got gold if you're over 65 you're out of here So he buys a pink Cadillac what the fuck is going on he's Angeline

He also like it like he's still swearing constantly like just every other word is a swear word hate So the lodge becomes popular, especially in the winter when there's snow and people can ski and do winter stuff, but in the summer, hugely popular, and Harry's friends with a bunch of Forest Service guys, and in 1935, he starts seeing a woman in Chihalas. When he goes there for a visit once, she has a friend, Marjorie Bennett Brown, and he's like, that is the lady I like more.

Hard to pull. So she's a divorce teacher from Seattle. She's got a nine-year-old daughter, Joan. I'm looking to replace the daughter that I quit on. And a woman. A new daughter? You're fucking beautiful. I would love to see what you shit.

Betty, this is what you, Betty, you should have been like this. This one's great. Great. Look at how fucking stunning she is. She's a big piece of ass. I like ass. What? Yeah.

What? Sometimes I love a big piece of fucking ass. Sometimes I'll eat her ass so much I'll shit. You ever thought about that? Just pissing. Huh? We're talking about the daughter right now. No, we're talking about the woman.

No, don't do that. You can't do that. You're not allowed to do that. You don't know. You're not allowed to do that. You're breaking a podcast commandment. You understand that? I was literally talking about the daughter. You were. You were breaking a podcast commandment. You understand that? I was literally talking about the daughters.

You were. I got weird. You were. Yeah, yeah. I said Betty. I was on another riff. You can't, don't do that. Don't daughter the mom. I can't tell you why they changed. Yeah, no, that's a much different vibe. Is the state's going to sue us?

I'm fucking... Welcome back to the dollop with Chris DeLeon, my co-host. We're now doing really cool pedophile stuff. And that's fine. So they both have really terrible tempers, Marge and Harry. That'll work. But they get married. And shockingly, it's a very stormy marriage. And they last for 12 years.

And one day when Marge was visiting family, this woman, Edna Henriksen, comes to the lodge on vacation. Boy, he really likes to paint Yeah, she's she's in a bad marriage and she came to the lodge to find some space to kind of clear her head and think about things and Harry just kind of swooped in Her sister had told her like go to Mount St. Helens paying Harry there's a great lodge there on Spirit Lake and fuck Harry And they both said it was love at first sight. Okay And his sister had told her, like, go to Mount St. Helens, basically. Bang, Harry. There's a great lodge there on Spirit Lake, and fuck Harry. They both said it was love at first sight.

Okay. And so they have an affair, basically, and then Ed divorces her husband, and Marge is now out completely, and then they get married. Okay. So Marge died seven years after the divorce, when she was 53 53 and her daughter said

it was from a broken heart. So let's just say he killed her. Well, again, I don't think you're allowed to do that. I don't think you can do that. So he murdered a woman. Oh, and now you're doing more of it and that's less okay. Did she rally, doctor?

The doctor comes out with his scrubs turned inside out. We tried to rally, but... There's no rallying. She was out. Can you take the R down from the... Full count, this woman's probably gonna die. We're not sure where this one's headed, but Marge just doesn't seem to be able to dig

deep enough trying to rally come back in this one. So they, they, Eddie, that's what he calls her, Eddie and Harry are just, just in love. Like they're just having the happiest shit time as March dies. Harry Truman becomes president and the resort is making a lot of money. What is that? How is that? I don't think you're allowed to do that. Some guy who has the same name as him becomes president and-

Wait, what is your deal? They're making tons of money. You motherfucker Wait, wait dave come on you're supposed to be a pal now So wait, I said harry r truman not harry s dude How dare you do that to me? I thought Benjamin Franklin was a president, you ingrate. I knew this was going to be a problem for you, but I could have helped you, but I didn't. So the whole time, I'm picturing that little man, the little bird boy, but we're talking about some other guy.

Let me tell you something. You're also going to know who this guy is. I don't. And it'll dawn on you soon. I don't care to finish this episode. Yeah. Yeah. So they're making okay money. He and his friends lobby for a road,

a nice road to be built up to the lake, which increases tourism. I'm having some real adjustments over here. You've moved on. I'm changing a road, you know, a nice road to be built up to the lake, which increases tourism. I'm having some real adjustments over here. You've moved on. I'm changing a whole, I'm a race in a face. Yep, so he's expanding the lodge and the resort. He's got, now got the big main lodge. He's got 21 cabins on the beach.

One he calls the Passion Pit, which the inside is painted pink and that's for honeymooners. He's got a smush room. That's real. That's real weird. That to me is like I would I would less go in there. I don't want to. I don't want the place that is promoted for banging. This is where the fucking hell this room is covered in semen. Yeah, he probably, yeah. It's like a comedy condo.

Nothing can be that bad. So there's also canoes and rowboats and he has five boats with engines that he rents out and then he has a larger boat that he would give $1 lake tours on. He Harry sold beer and fishing licenses and bait and tackle the restaurant in the lodge becomes too small because so many people are eating there.

So he builds one closer to the lake shore. Some mogul, the lookout restaurant and straight room lounge. So it's all this is all going great In 1953 he becomes friends with the US Supreme Court Justice William Douglas who came to the resort looking for a room Now here was known to just kind of tell people to fuck off and Harry took one look at the The justice and he told his niece to tell, quote, the old coot, they're full. So he turns around and starts to walk away, but someone was like,

that's the US Supreme Court justice. So he runs down and chases him down and talks to him. I thought you were no coot, but you have clout. You're a young clout. We have room for you. Would you like to stay in the honeymoon suite? It's covered in coitus. There's a lot of stuff that you'll like in there.

Gordon Ramsay's doing an episode. Jesus fuck. So he and Douglas become really good friends. They went on a five day pack trip and they kind of bonded and they became drinking buddies. And Douglas, after this, would come and visit once a year. And there was a spot. So in September 1975, Eddie dies of a heart attack while she's napping.

No rally? And his niece said that Harry just worshiped her and his life was just totally shattered. See this is why I don't recommend people try to find love. It's just, it's a wild decision. Good call. I mean a lot of grief in the mail. He starts becoming more ornery and he starts drinking a lot more and he just kind of lets the resort go.

The lodge is closed, quote, "'He was so angry and mean "'that people around the lake tried to avoid him, "'and the lodge stank of piss from his 16 cats.'" Now this is like you. Are we doing a litter robot ad? Because if you want to get rid of that piss now, I'll tell you, get the litter robot.

16 cats pissing all over. Okay. Yeah. Some guests still came and they stayed in the cabins and they would rent boats. Harry said, quote, I just rent enough boats and cabins to keep the booze supply full. That's it's darker. So it's a lighter. It's become darker since I realized he wasn't going to be the president. It's the second half of boogie night. That's right. Yeah, right. Which ends well, except a smaller slong. The end of boogie nights, if he whipped that thing out and it was just like

regular size, Jesus, this is really weird. Holy shit. Well, that was disappointing. Then on March 15th, 1980, small earthquakes begin. Oh my god. I do know who this is. Oh my god. When were we just talking about this guy? Didn't we mention him in something recently? Well, you and I were talking about the guy

on the boat in Tampa Bay. Yes, and we compared him to him. Yes. Oh my God. And people made up lies about him, because at first it was like, oh, there's this guy on the bay, and then people made up lies that he was like this

pedophile who was a scammer and stuff and that also wasn't true so he's just a guy on a boat basically. It's so weird with like how information gets out there now where you're like I gotta give it a day kind of see what's actually happening. I told you I think we were maybe on a chop I told you like no now they're finding out all this stuff about the guy's history But it turns out that's not true. Okay, so yeah, whatever. Okay So, I mean that's why I did this because I was like, oh yeah people who stay yeah, right you know, we got a lot of we got a lot of people out here and the

The landslide area. Yeah, they're just not going anywhere and those houses down at some point combination of delusion But then the reality of like well what I mean, especially right now, what the fuck can you do? But anyway, I keep coming. Yeah so the the earthquakes indicate that there might be some magma moving around below the Volcano and on March 12, okay Volcanologists should definitely wear hats that say magma March. I guess a volcanologist should definitely wear hats that say magma red hats with all white letters that say magma.

You're right. You're right. I keep branding. They probably do. They better probably do. On March 20th, there's a 4.5 earthquake on the north flank of the volcano. It had not blown up on 123 years.

And then there's like an earthquake swarm, right? A lot of little earthquakes then on 1236 on March 27th It ejects steam and smashed rock and creates a new crater The ash goes 7,000 feet in the air. There are more earthquakes there's steam explosions over days and other crack forms and then a larger those two kind of combined into a larger crater and Geologists are alarmed by this. This is alarming for geologists Governor Dixie Lee Ray declared a state of emergency on April 3rd

Okay now on the 30th based on USGS sort of Reports and recommendations, she created a red zone around Mount St. Helens. So anyone in the red zone who doesn't have a pass would get a $500 fine or could get six months in jail. This is just like the horse tax.

It's a lot like the horse tax. Okay, yeah. Thank you. Yeah, it's just so interesting how that stuff sort of comes back. I like how your mind, yeah, your mind ties these things together It's a lot like the horse. I like how your mind ties these things together. Other people's minds don't. You have to do two things with history. You have to have that upfront perspective and then you have to do the 30,000 foot overview. It's the machinations. of a rolling stone and it just, the moss that it gathers and carries and then you kind of come out the other end

and you're going, oh, now they're doing red zones. There's sort of, you know, the taxing of this stuff. It's just, and you looked at today. I mean, what isn't a power donkey today? What isn't a horse tax today? They're taxing everything today. Your parents must be really proud of you. I haven't talked to my parents in a long time.

It's so funny, I had a conversation with my dad the other day and he goes, don't call me again, this is scary. And I just thought, this is so us. Yeah, yeah, really, yeah, you're terrifying. People don't want to hear that. I know, I'm going like, what is it with everybody? And everyone's just going, you are melting down. Yeah. And I just go, okay, are we going to play that game?

Oh, it's just, it is so funny how that sort of the machinations. Yeah, I'm scared. I'm a little scared. Everyone's terrified. I will be at your home so soon It's drive So a lot of people have cabins up there it can't go up to their cabins now Penn State University a geologist Barry Voight is an expert on massive rock slides and avalanche nerds. Sorry. I got a razzle he had

No, you get him get him He. He has published two 800 page books on examples of landslides and rock slides and avalanches in North and South America. So they bring him in to consult. They're like, let's get the landslide guy. He takes a flight up to the volcano on April 12th and he's like, holy fuck. It is bulging in a way that made him think that an eruption is going to go sideways.

North. Spirit lane. He thinks of a 1902 hot rock and gas eruption in Martinique that killed 30,000 people like he's like this is really scary But some geologists at usgs Almost resented his warnings because they thought it was going to go straight up be a vertical love that they're like Come on, okay fancy pants some respect Would you write the book on it? You got 1,600 pages on it?

He would not send an official report until mid-May, but he did say, like, hey, guys, this is going to blow sideways. So the media, when this starts happening, the media just goes fucking bug fuck. Like they all come up to Mount St. Helens, the Forest Service workers are like, you should go. I mean, you want to quote, go talk to this guy Harry, because he's he's going to be full of quotes. And an Oregonian reporter comes and finds a very sad and lonely Harry in this run down lodge. Harry quote, I've kind of let the place go since Edie. Edie and I had spent 37 years of loving,

working, fighting, laughing, dancing, and really living on our mountain and lake. Go look at the old pictures I have on the wall, she was some woman. So it's like got this narrative, right? It's this old sad guy who lost the love of his life and now he's up in his mountain home alone. And he, you know, like any old person, like, you know, when they, that's why they take out checkbooks still at the store,

cause they want to talk. So he wants to talk. He quickly becomes a favorite of all the TV reporters, and the police are like, oh my god, we can't have all these reporters coming up here. So they set up a press conference, and they escort him down to a high school gym in Tootley so he could meet with the reporters. Hmm. Because they don't want the reporters to be up there

when the volcano blows and die, right? So Chief Deputy Sheriff Ray Bladestale quote. And Bladestale. It'll be an experience. It'll be an experience. Promised, I dare you to print what he says He hasn't got a silver word in his mouth. He's a pretty nice old guy. Okay A lot of contradictions there

Oh boy, there's a cat here So harry likes to complain about the media and he told the local reporter he was tired of quote all the jackass reporters who've never heard of spirit lake before trying to make him into a folk hero but at the same time you know it yeah a day after he says that he is cooking an easter turkey for the NBC today show crew, right? Like they come up from Burbank and he's like, how about a, he's the turkey for you boys. I am so sick of you people coming up here, who wants dark, who wants white, just put out your blade.

You guys come up here and you expect to talk to me, guys please help yourself to some of those sides, please help yourself, take a seat, no, get some napkins, and you come up here. It's, the media loved every word that he said. He was just a quote machine. And then of course it didn't hurt he drove a pink Cadillac and always like literally always had a drink in his hand.

When you watch a video and he's walking across the snow or whatever down in the lake with a reporter, he literally has a beer in his hand. He's always got a drink in his hand. Doesn't sound bad. And that obviously being drunk helped with the quotes. He was basically the opposite of the sober and careful speaking scientist, right?

He's great. He said, quote, if the mountain goes, I'm going with it. You couldn't pull me out with a mule team the mountains part of Truman and Truman's part of that mountain Because there's one There's a video of him that sounds very much like the quote. I've seen a lot of video Yes So an evacuation around the around the volcano was ordered on April 3rd, and as I said, it's called the Red Zone.

Only one resident ignores the evacuation order. Oh man. Harry Truman. He said he didn't think it was a big deal. Quote, I think it shot its wad. Why, geologists are like, Harry, let's not go with your gut and also stop making it sound like it's coming. I got a feeling.

I mean, I feel the mountain in my bones and I feel like it already, it just blew. It came so hard and it's not going to get it up again. And it's going to be soft for a little while. Just kind of flaccid and not ready to go for a bit. And it's going to get hard up again and it's gonna be soft for a little while just kind of Not ready to go for ready to go again soon I don't think so. I mean if it's anything like me, it's gonna take a good week and a half It'll really get reeling again now, you know, maybe a cat brushes up against it and it starts to Stop stop stop and then uh, you know, but I think we got a while in in mountain time. Oh, we can have is like you.

So I don't think it's going to I don't think. I do not think this man is going to orgasm. It's a red zone. I hear you, buddy. You ever been to the red zone in in Denmark? What is? Amsterdam, whatever that place is. The red light district? Yeah.

Okay. I mean, have you? All right. I don't want to no more quotes. His defines just boosted his full care of status. The more he says, I'm saying I'm a mountain, the more the press love it and everybody just wants to write about him. He's in every paper in the country.

He's in magazines. He's covered on every news program, local news, national programs. A memorabilia company made a silver collector's medallion with Mount St. Helens on the front and Harry on the backside in a baseball cap. Now, I wish I had that. Let me explain what he can't leave now. He can't. You're right.

He cannot. Absolutely not. So the media has painted him further into a corner by the exposing of this and all that. They fuel it. It's kind of symbiotic and now he has no choice. The second you're on a collectible coin, it's over. Yeah, you're fucked. Yeah.

Yeah. He is absolutely painted into a corner. But you see the versions of this today, it's a lot like the Power Mule. No, but you do see the versions of this today where it's like someone will find their pocket online in a group of disastrous, moralist folk. And because they're selling tickets or because they're doing whatever, they double down and lean into that and they kind of just remove their conscience. It's like if you're the party guy comedian

or the pot comedian or what, now your audience is all about that and you can't stop. I mean, you can fake it maybe, but that's what your thing is. No, you can't, especially this guy. This guy can't reinvent. Yeah, this guy's. Now I'm the Never on the Mountain guy.

How pooky bananas is that? Check me out, I'm the safe in Seattle guy. I'm Never going on the Mountain again. B-b-b-b-b-b-boom. Never going on a mountain again. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. Boom. Yeah, so, so in early May,

the Seattle Times sends a reporter, Hill Williams. Nope, not even gonna bother. Not even gonna bother. Simon Worth it. Why am I gonna do it? Why? So obvious. There's a couple ways you can go.

They're looking for some reporter who'll go up there and they know a guy named Hill, or they're looking for a reporter named Mountain and Hill will have to do. They're looking for a reporter named Mountain and he'll have to do. So they sent them to interview scientists. Quote, earthquakes caused by molten rock bumping and cracking its way up inside the mountain would shake snow off trees. Some shakes were strong enough that geologists would grab their instruments to keep them

from falling over. Pickup trucks would rock on their springs, the jagged goat rocks, visible occasionally, up toward the summit when clouds parted, were moving an astounding five feet a day, pushed out by the rising magma in the mountain. Calling your kid Hill is insane. Calling him Hill? It also could be a fake. He could be like Dallas Reigns, like not his real name. He just picked it for the business. By the way, if anyone...

And his beat is the Hills. My mother's least favorite person on local news is Dallas Raines. She hates him. Well, it's crazy. It's Dallas Raines. He's turning into... He looks like if lightning did cocaine and he does weather. Yeah, but he also looks like what if beef jerky became a weather guy.

It looks like he was struck by lightning. Yeah. Definitely. And he's just nuts. It's just amazing, he's amazing. Okay, so, so he, Hill goes to see Harry and he is outside shoveling snow and Harry shows him around and said he received letters

from kids classes, worried fifth graders in Brooks, Oregon and also Grand Blanc, Michigan. And the Grand Blanc letters made him cry when he was reading them. Quote, these kids really care about me. And look how they indent their paragraphs and how neat their letters are. Those kids are no dummies. Harry, they think it's gonna pop. Look at that. Perfect. Harry, they just don't want the old man to die on the mountain. That's

all they just want you to live. You have to take your hat off to penmanship at this age. Look at the way they indent. They are indenting. They even put their addresses in the upper right hand corner like it's a business letter. One asked Harry if he had a family. Quote, if you do, why not go back to them? I don't think you would enjoy being covered in steaming, boiling lava. You can't be honest, you kids.

Look how sweet she is. She done want old Harry burning through his own skin with lava. That's the best. Another quote, another quote, if the mountain erupted, you would be burned and it would hurt. Kids say such cute things.

The craziest. Harry, they say that it'll get hot enough that your bones will melt, but you'll still be tortured while it happens. How cute. Look at that indentation. So precious. But he wasn't just staying up on the mountain. He was living his life. So he would come down for various reasons, but he always went back up. But then again, that's like they could have just not allowed him back up. Right? Yeah. I mean, I just think of this country's, I think of this country through the prism of today and obviously they would let him back up. You'd maybe get more people up there, honestly, but I don't know. You kind of can't. You know, I mean, I guess there's there's certain areas where you you're not allowed to live so maybe but mm-hmm

I don't know. I think you just got to let this guy be the firework he wants to be It is a no-go zone Yeah, you can't be put in jail. By the way, a lot of people don't know that's your tramp stamp Yeah, it is and there's a reason for that, but I don't want to go into it right now. Yeah it is and there's a reason for that but I don't want to go into it right now but yeah. So he would come down once in a while and in late April he went to Minnesota for two days to visit friends. God that must have been a weird trip. How about you stay here? Well I should go back I gotta explode. I gotta pop in a couple days probably. On May 14th, the National Geographic flew him

in a helicopter to talk to the fifth graders in Brooks, Oregon. So, wow. It's so bold, it's such bullshit. I don't think much of our media today, but man, if National Geographic's like, will you face these children and tell them why you want to stay on Mount St. Jerk! Your skin's gonna burn off and you're gonna die!

Yeah, but all my stuff's up there, Grace. So you gotta remember that. I mean, seriously, National Geographic was like, how can we really scar these children? Really? Like, how can we- I mean, they have an attachment, but shouldn't they know him face to face? Alright guys, this is the guy you've been writing letters to for so long now. Listen, Harry Truman, not the president, who lives up on the mountain, is here today to face some of your letters and tell you why he is not going to leave the mountain and he's going to stay up there. Mr. Truman, you mean so much to us. Won't you please come down from the mountain because all the geologists say that it's going to explode and with it, your body and all of

the things inside of it. Yeah, well, I'm kind of really locked in right now because I said I would stay there for a while now and I'm kind of I'm pretty I'm pretty drunk and I miss my I miss my lady and and the mountain ain't gonna do that you know what coming is so when a man meets a woman. That's great thank you so much all right do you guys want to get him back up in the hell of yeah no get him back up to that mountain. It'll really just shoot a wall I think it's already done that though. Get it, tissue. Okay, go. Okay.

Is National Geographic supposed to be like a good publication? It used to be. So he comes back from that trip. I believe he cried when he was there, but whatever. So when he comes back. He's crying, by the way, that's even fucking, I just, I can't leave.

I wanna leave, but I can't leave. All right, how about Harry Truman? I do really think we should point out that like, this is an alcoholic making really alcoholic decisions and everyone's just like, wow, and like, You really are a hero, Harry. I've always looked up to a bloke like you, Harry. Part of me wants to just keep living, but you can't.

You've painted yourself into a bit of a corner, haven't you, Truman? And now you've got to stay up on that mountain no matter what anyone says. You've got no choice. I mean, Christ, boy, you've been put on the covers of 40 different magazines. You've got fame, you've got no choice I mean Christ boy you've been put on the covers of 40 different magazines you've got fame you've got yourself everything tell you

what you've not got is a solid promise of life ahead but that's not what you want is it no you want to stay up there on that mountaintop and pop with it in you, boy. Yeah. Boy, I wish I could see your balls. Well, I'd love to have a look at your balls. Okay. Wow. Regular size. So he comes back and there's a reporter comes in. He says he's scared of all the earthquakes. This is sad, dude. But he feels, but well, but he feels safer sleeping in the lodge basement. Dave, still sad.

That did not fill me with anything good. But I feel sad. He doesn't. Oh, man. He clearly doesn't understand the enormity of the volcano. He says that he doesn't think the volcano will kill him. But this is just a guy pontificate. Yes, he told some people he thought the trees

would block the rock and snow from coming down from the volcano. Like an avalanche? He told the press. Yeah, that's not how it works. Like he'd never seen an avalanche on the mountain. He had to have. He told the press. Yeah, that's not how it works. Like he'd never seen an avalanche on the mountain. He had to have. He told the press, quote,

"'The mountain will never hurt me. "'When you live someplace for 50 years, "'you either know your country or you're stupid.'" Oh, well, oh boy. He told another reporter, he stumbled across an old mineshaft and he dug it into a cave and he planned to go there with food and two kegs of whiskey if the mountain erupted. His plan is to go.

It's good. His plan is to go into a mine? Gareth, when the mountain erupts, he's going to grab food and two kegs of whiskey and high tail it to his cave. You wanna be deeper in the mountain when it starts to shake and collapse. That's the move. Have you seen Lord of the Rings?

I got this from the dwarves. Now, geologists will tell you to leave the mountain and if you're not going to leave the mountain to just try to stay above ground as much as possible. My plan is to find the mountain's bee hole and get right into it. Get right in there. Get in there as deep as possible. I mean, when was the last time you heard of a mine collapsing? Exactly. Never. Never. Especially when it's a mine in a volcano. The media, of course, eats this shit up. Like it's just more copy

and they love it. They just, they just keep keep coming up and one day in early May, he comes out in the morning and there's four helicopters on the driveway of reporters who had landed, because they're all fucking coming. And he said, he tells them they would not have gotten much of a story out of Mount St. Helens if it wasn't for him and he's right. Like he's created a narrative that never,

everybody who was alive at the time remembers this guy and remembers the ongoing saga of this guy less so then how long is this going on? We're now in the second month where it started months not years mid-may and now we're now we're like in Started in March and now we're in we're in the May Yeah, it's not years, it's literally two months. Spoiler. On May 10th, a very strong earthquake hits and the next day scientists release a very serious warning and they say the eruption is no longer if, now it is away.

And they're writing these. It's inevitable. They're writing these bullets and it's too hairy. Basically, two days later, another quake caused an ice avalanche. And this is all happening on the North flank, which is right, he's directly in the path of this. Officials offer to fly him out by helicopter.

They're like, we will now come and get you and take you out. And he said, quote, I've made it my mind more than ever not to leave. I think I mean my take on this game is like the dude when his wife died he was done he stopped living and this is his way of going. And you know what the truth is if you were to be like if you were to be in a back room sort of discussing this you'd be like look he's legend now. He's got all the cloudy needs. Let's physically remove him.

Yeah. On May 27th, five friends come to visit at different times and beg him to come. By the way, those friends, you were probably like, hey, Harry, I'm not gonna stay for long. Listen, I just, I'm actually, I really cannot stay for very long. That sounded a bit, there sounded a bit rumbly.

It does always sound rumbly. We're definitely looking to get you out of here. So we love you so much. We really think you should leave, buddy. I got to go. It's time. It's time. It's time.

It's time. It's time. It's time. Let's go, buddy. He told one quote, if I go down to the lowland, I will drink myself to death. Buddy, you're doing that in the highland. That's actually exactly what's going on right now. Just the lowland is such a funny way of putting it too.

He really has become kind of like, it's like Game of Thrones. I'm not a lowlander. A deputy said, quote, Harry Truman looked at me like he wanted me to just hit him over the head and put him in the back of the car. He was nervous, but damned if he was going. I had no choice other than to kidnap him, which I wasn't going to do. So that day there were two small eruptions and the North flank now has a 140 meter bulge that is growing two meters a day. Oh my God. It's growing two, I mean he was just like,

I'm gonna go for a dip. Two friends who ran a lodge on the river nearby stopped by and helped him sharpen his saws. That is crazy. Well you gotta be ready. That is crazy. Well, you got to be ready. That is crazy. I'm going to make a bench. What are you doing? They left at 6 p.m. and Harry said he'd see them tomorrow because he was going to Castle Rock to buy primroses for the garden. And as he was talking to them, they're in their car and he's standing outside the car. They all tear up. And then Harry said, quote, Oh, come on, let's keep

a stiff upper lip. So they all everybody he knows he's dying. Everybody knows he's committing suicide. But it's just living on a mountain. It's like he has cancer, but he's just on a volcano. He has mountainosis. He's unable to differentiate what is an exploding mountain versus what's an okay place to live. How far along is it, Doc? It's extreme. It's spread all over you. You're gonna insist this keep a stiff upper lip. Oh, come on now. I'm just gonna die from popping. lip. Oh, come on now. I'm just gonna die from popping. Now I'll also say they should have expanded the red zone because there's a red zone and a blue zone. And based on that guy, the professor voice report, like it was going to be bigger sideways than it was up. And like there were there were workers for the wire, wirehouser I think

it's called, but it's a it's a logging company we've talked about before when we talked about the damn guy and stuff who fought the fought the logging company. Yeah, but but they're like the nationwide logging company and they were still working in this area. And that's kind of why I think like they didn't want to expand it was because of commerce but they should have expanded it in a direction yeah but it still was bigger than anybody ever imagined they kept saying well it's never blown that big but I read one scientist is like yeah that's not it might. You're predicting new realities as part of it. Yeah. Well, you know how science works. If it's happened, it can happen again. And if it never has, it won't. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

It won't, yes. It can't. So Mount St. Helens explodes the next morning at 8.32 a.m. The massive bulge became a gigantic landslide, and then that triggers different things, basically, and that leads to the blast which is horizontal. Okay. So it's hard for Harry to run to his mind because the blast is moving at 300 miles per hour and it's

600 degrees. That plan was extremely flawed the entire time. It's a good plan. I said it was a good plan. Cans of whiskey. It's, it's, you know what I mean? It's not like the sun going down. It was a good one. Cags of whiskey. It's, you know what I mean? It's not like the sun going down. Well, 15 minutes before it pops. It's possible that he thought of it in like the way, like you think of it in a cartoon

where just lava comes out. People- Surely there were people there though who were like, no, you're thinking of Animaniacs. This is not what's gonna happen. It can just be hot gas. Right, so it's 300 miles an hour and it's 600 degrees. The cloud sped down the volcano,

just obliterating the forest. When they hit the resorts and camps at Spirit Lake, they were blown to bits and Harry was incinerated. He would have been dead before you even knew what was happening. But thankfully, there's no something. He was just gone. Right.

Helicopter pilot Dwight Reber had told Harry he would fly up and save him if the volcano erupted so he headed up to the lake. The air temperature was 140 degrees Fahrenheit. So hot the helicopter had a hard time staying up. He's like, okay, that's the lake, but it's covered in logs and ash and everything else. There's no buildings. There's nothing there. Over a hundred square miles of forest was buried or blown down. And again, he's at the beginning of that. He's right at, you know, so I mean, this went on for fucking for like, the pictures are

astounding how big the explosion was. 61 people killed or missing how big the explosion was 61 people killed they're missing although I think they they took that down They double counted so or no to two women were murdered and then they found their bodies, but they had already been what should we count of? ass That's a the volcano stamp no though, but it's so strange. It's clearly a bunch of stab wounds. So I think it was 57 people, 7,000 elk, 12,000 deer, 300 bears, 5,000 coyotes.

So he's dead and they auction his estate off. What estate? And it's split between, well, it the split between eight heirs. So he gets $58,000. This is the estate. People are surprised to learn that he and Eddie owned a second home near the Columbia River. He could have gone to his second house. He had another house. He could have gone to another house. He didn't want to live. That's obvious.

Who's more electable today? The guy who was president or this guy? This guy. So they would spend time there once in a while. A hundred bidders come because they're going to auction everything off in the house. Quote, bids were offered for Truman's prized swizzle stick. His Portland telephone directories. Swizzle stick is something that little John holds, right?

Yes. His telephone directories, his fucking phone books, canned goods that he never had a chance to eat and even the house's toilet. I'm, um... I'm interested in buying the toilet. May I ask a couple questions before I... Okay, oh, okay. Yeah, well, you already bought it, but yeah, you can ask questions.

Has it been cleaned? Yeah, well you already bought it, but yeah, you can ask questions. Has it been cleaned? No, it's exactly the same. He didn't have running water, right? No. So all the man matter remains? No, it's mostly cleaned out. It's not, it wasn't, they didn didn't it wasn't like a pot like it

Well But there's still bits and pieces, what do you think? Oh, yeah proposition Please let me finish my proposition Who says no to a deal before a deal is offered? Please just take I would have willed the toilets getting taken It's just a question of offered. Please just take it. I would have willed. The toilet's getting taken. It's just a question of what state I may receive it in. What if you were to ask some people who work around you if they have any interest in using the toilet?

I need you to go. I need you to go right now. I need you to go. I'm calling the police. I'm calling the- In the toilet. That's not the- See if one of your people will do it.

Leave. Leave here. Show of hands does anyone have to crap? No one's crapping! I got ripped off at that auction today. I'm talking to my wife, who happens to be a tree trunk! They also bought rusted tools, ashtrays, first aid kits, a silver hard hat, and his personal wet bar. The first aid kits, a silver hard hat, and his personal wet bar. The first aid kit's funny.

Hollywood wickly makes a movie in, I think it came out the same year, starring his favorite actor Art Carney. It's terrible. It's totally pan. If you can imagine. There is a ridge on the volcano now called Harry's ridge. There's also a Harry Truman trail there. They made a Harry Truman Memorial Park in Castle Rock, but I guess Castle Rock was super divided. Some people thought he'd done a bad thing, other people thought he was a hero, so they later renamed it Castle Rock Lions Club Park. And that's the story of Harry Truman on the mountain. And I think we're going to get a lot of this with climate change.

Yeah, we probably will. I mean, that's sort of to what you were alluding to before. It's like, you know, you just kind of... And that's sort of to what you were alluding to before. It's sad. I mean, it is sad because of a couple of reasons, because it's clearly someone who, there's a problem there, and then also a media that hypes it up.

And I think the same with climate change. It's also just the acceleration of the crazy shit. Like in today, you would have a bunch of people behind him saying, this is such crazy shit. They keep trying to take your land and they're really coming like right Yeah, you would have a different Yeah, you have a bunch of people up there and then when it happens They would say that the government exploded it to teach him a lesson and kill these people Absolutely, you would just have the fringe on for I mean and you see it with the hurricane

I mean we were talking about like the fact that the you know, the idea that You know that people think that these weather systems are caused by a machine in the ocean is fucking shocking. But look, though, this is a great example of how like the media creates a worse situation because they need a story where a story doesn't exist. Like the story is this mountain's gonna blow up. That's the story. And then they focus on this dude and they make it into this narrative

instead of what they should have done, which is ignore the dude. And then he might have come down, you're right, I think they did box him in. And so they create this weird, bad situation. Like giving a guy fame. Media doesn't seem to ever really help anything. I mean, maybe it does.

I think there's times when it's like, I'm sure there are people. There are certain journalists that I think definitely give us insights into things we didn't have. But mass media culture, I don't think ever really. No. It doesn't have. But mass media culture, I don't think ever really, it doesn't have the interest in solving.

You can't have a culture where everything is about boosting your own fame and success at every turn and expect morals or good character to actually come into play and mean anything. So it's just, that's what it all is. I mean, I mean, it's even dog shit. character to actually come into play and mean anything. That's what it all is. It's the dogshitest it could be now because it's like literally just trying to get people to follow you on social media so that you can become an influencer. That is literally everyone's goal now and that's it.

Sorry, tough shit. That's it. Yeah, and sorry tough shit. That's it. Yeah, there's a lot of takes here I got can we just watch him real cool. I'm just gonna play some of his audio. I thought you got a real quick Yeah This one talking about that's it But yeah, I know you can't find a video anymore where they just go straight is no more That's the word from the Forest Service. Survey crews say huge pyroclastic flows of hot ash, rock and gas have enveloped the lake, turning it into a bubbling cauldron of hot debris.

We have reports that Spirit Lake Lodge is totally wiped out. Those reports are unconfirmed. As for Lodge Operator, 84-year-old Harry Truman, we can only surmise he has realized his wish to go down with the ship. We understand the area is completely buried beneath 30 feet of mud. I last saw Harry about two weeks ago.

It was one of many afternoons we've spent together over the past year. And so I came to know Harry through his salty tales of days gone by, tales of running whiskey, and of the day he settled down. Harry, together with his wife, refused for nearly half a century to be defeated by the elements.

Their home was destroyed several times by high winds and fire, each time they built it back again. But Harry's wife died five years ago. No, I'm not gonna leave, you're damn right, I'm not gonna leave, I'm gonna stay here. If I left, tell me if I left this place and lost my home, I'd die in a week. I couldn't live, I couldn't extend it.

So I'm like that old captain, I got him going down the ship. I said, if the damn thing takes this mountain, I'm going along with it. I'd rather be dead, for, than to live without it. That's crazy, I'm stupid. People see that, they say the craziest man in God's rear is old Truman.

Wow. It really it's also the fact that she's like my last conversation was with him two weeks ago. It's so exploitative. She also she also lied. She said my year with him but this started in on March 16th 1980 and then the explosion It's like she's was on the 18 like Tuesdays with Maury of May Hey, but the whole thing. Yeah, it's all very just like that's so late here. It's just so weird. Yeah, it's completely so

Well, it's fucking insane In every way, I think you're right. We'll see more and more of it. Now there's always a fringe for everything. But this is kind of, yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy that you all said the president's name. That was bullshit. You're not allowed to do that again. Do you understand me? That's not okay. Well, tomorrow we'll be talking about, the next week we'll be talking about Ben B. Franklin. That'll be a good episode. Was that guy president? That's all folks. That's our new sign off. So I travel a lot.

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