The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 656 - Nellie Bly - Part One

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Comedians Gareth Reynolds and Dave Anthony examine American journalist Nellie Bly - Part one of two Tour Dates Redbubble Merch Sources   Squarespace 

So I travel a lot. I mean a lot perhaps too much to some of you, but that's kind of my gig, right? So I'm out there. I'm living out of suitcases or suitcase sometimes if I bring the big boy and I want all the comforts of home That's why I stay at an Airbnb whenever possible recently I had some gigs in Fort Collins, Colorado And I was with my friends and we were shooting some stuff and before we got to the gigs We were like, let's just get an Airbnb and it is just a more comforting existence you have a kitchen you have a yard you know it's communal living it's just a less stressful place more enjoyable experience so when I go on tour you know like I'll be going on tour

in a couple months I always am like well could my place be an Airbnb you know just to have someone watching your place while you're gone and make a little bit of money. And the answer to that is yes, yes, it can be an Airbnb. It's really just as simple as listing your place and letting it earn a little extra cash while you're away. So imagine someone staying at your home in Los Angeles while you're out there exploring the world. Turn your home into an Airbnb.

Give it a shot. You might be surprised at how rewarding it can be. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at airbnb.ca slash host. You're listening to the dollop on the all things comedy network. This is an American History Podcast where each week I, David Anthony, read a story from American History to a thing. Come on, Gareth Reynolds, man, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. I wouldn't call you a man. You're still apparently in your teen phase.

Well, I got a pimple coming in on my nose, buddy. So what does that tell you? It tells me that you're doing drugs. Sometimes. But like bad drugs, like you're doing a lot of blow. When was the last time you did a bad drug? You've done a bad drug in your life. A bad drug? Yeah. I mean, I haven't done coke or anything in your life. A bad drug? Yeah. I mean, I haven't done coke or anything coke-like in a long time.

You're such a fucking loser. Yeah, no, I am a loser. It's just so stupid. Probably since my 20s. I can't. Maybe I did a little bit in my 30s, but I don't remember. I don't remember a lot of stuff because of all the heroin I did. You're not cool unless you've done cocaine in your 40s.

Haha, that's not cool. And called it quote is Jam Patch. Jam Patch? I'm the fucking hippo guy! Babe, okay. My name's Gary. Let it go. Wait, is it for fun?

And this is not gonna come to Tickly Plot, guys. Okay. This is like Adam. On a five part coefficient. Come on, we're out of the plane! Now hit him with the puppy. You both present sick arguments. No sleep talking! Okay. This is like Adam. On a five part coefficient. My room is a place. Now hit him with a puppy. You both present sick arguments.

No sleep, tell hip-hop. No sleep, tell hip-hop. Actually, pardon me. Hi, Gavy. No. Nice to meet you, my friend. No, no. Roeder, Roeder in the court.

I don't know that. That's not cool. By the way, anyone who's tuning in, well, first of all, we should probably address this. We're the bad boys. Now a lot of people have been talking about how we've been calling ourselves the bad boys and then this stuff with the P Diddy stuff. It's not the same kind of bad boys stuff. So we're not associated with those bad boys.

We're a different kind of bad boy. That's a different crew. People who come to our parties are allowed to leave and our rooms are only audio. Yep. Recording. No sex. We have podcast parties. That's right.

And bring your set up or don't. We got setups. We have mansions where you can just pod. Just pod the shit out of it. Oh, it's so hard. I mean, so many people just pod till they can't. Yeah, pod till you can't. Pod like no one's watching. Yep, pod like no one's listening. That's what we do here on the dollop. And at times, it's been true. That's how the show started, really. been true. That's how the show started really. We came out hot because I did three solos and people were clamoring. I got to remake those don't I? I always forget. We got to

release the originals. No. No, no, no. There's nothing entertaining about them. There is. Not for the right reasons. What are you doing right now? I want to see the Genesis. We started this show before people found the boob. When you started, nobody had filled the boob roll. You and I discovered that I was the boob. Yeah, we did.

So the boob roll had not been a role in podcasting. We came up with Guy and Boob. Remember the Vern movies? Those are the earnest movies. The fact that you remember the earnest movies as the Vern movies. Those are- Sounds like we might be a set of boobs. Those are, that's kind of what you're like on this podcast. I have been to jail and I have gone to camp.

Gareth, we can also be found on Patreon where you can get ad free content and then we do a lot of miscellaneous stuff. We have a whole series of van life about like a sketchy sort of hilarious thing that people love and they cry and they bond with us and then we do weekly sort of political what's going on in the world talks. We got all kinds of stuff there. We do shallops and smallups and there's all kinds of stuff happening and then also we got over on Apple Plus. We got reverse smallups, more UK episodes. Coming. So yeah. And pot. Plus we got very small ups more UK episodes coming

So yeah, so and pot Yeah, it's a podcast sign up over there. You can get a little bit of pot and we have the pastimes which is by the way Did you know burns who helps with the research of the pastimes if we don't finish if we don't finish a paper? He takes those articles to Cory and Trey's podcast. What the fuck? Did you know he's doing that? What the fuck? Yeah. He's fucking selling our seeds, man.

He's selling the stems. He's taking our used bags, man, and he's putting the stems and seeds and giving them to Cory and Trey, man, and he's splitting the stems and seeds and giving them to Cory and Trey, man. Well, I don't know if he's listening to this, but it burns your fire. Only way we'll know if he listens is if he stops working on our job. Drop off your keys. Yep. Just put them in the mailbox.

Thank you. Gareth, are you ready? You ready for some dolloping? I'm excited. People are mad. It's been five minutes. May 5th, 1864. Who gives a shit?

Right after Kennedy was shot. Huh? Kennedy was shot in 1863. If I recall correctly. Okay. Two boobs. Right.. Okay. Two boobs. Right. Bob Franklin. Two boobs.

Stan. I'm talking about Stan Kennedy. Elizabeth Jane Cochran was born in Mills, Pennsylvania. Is this the story of the cock ring? You know what? We're trying to elevate. I know we're the bad boys, but also that's, that's low. It's a little too low for even the bad boys. I strive to do better. You're trying too hard. He was born in Mills, Pennsylvania,

to Mary Jane and Michael Cochran. Is this about the Cochran? Well-respected family of Irish immigrants. Michael was a successful blacksmith and then he started making property investments as blacksmiths will do. They're known to do. Sure.

So they're a very comfortable family. They're doing well. They're living large, as they say, for Pennsylvania at the time. Sure. And then such a respected man, the dad was elected to be a county judge Okay

I became then It's just I'm what are we gonna do is this what the podcast is gonna be? Paul McCartney said look I'm hey, hey, you're phoning it in hey, hey, you're not even trying Hey, hey, you're hearing words and you're doing like similar words or you're doing like rhymes I'm bringing the heat. that's not who we are There's no heat happening. Can I be honest the show is better when it was just you That's true so then he became known as judge Cochran that and he That's what he chose to be called. Also, even I stopped being a judge. Okay

He had no legal training. He just Judged it. Love that. Like that Steve Harvey style. Bring it back. I would say a lot of the people that Trump picked didn't have any legal training. So it's insulting. He was so liked by the town and the area that they renamed the town Cochran's Mills. Wow. That's Mills. Wow.

That's good. Powerful. Are you going to say it? No. No? Nope. Because this would be the part where it would actually maybe make sense. No.

A Cochrane mill. I think we're trying to elevate. When Elizabeth was a baby. You ever worn a Cochran? No. Okay. I'm not going to ask you. I'm absolutely not asking you that question.

Smart. Smart. Let's just keep going. She wore or she was put in. She didn't wear them herself. She was put in. Dull brown and gray clothes are very popular at the time, right? So that's the part to wear it.

But her mom put her in bright pink frills. So all right, just let's do a heat check just because we've done this show for a while. My guess, men, and probably the domino effect women, are gonna lose their goddamn minds over this. Because everybody's kind of wearing like dead colors, and then she wears pink, and then people are gonna be like, what? It's a frumpy baby time. She's the devil's whore.

Well, not quite. They did, however, nickname her Pink. I know her. Yeah, this is Pink, the singer. That's awesome. So she kept, that was it. They just called her Pink from then on. She had a very good childhood.

She's with a rich family. She loves riding horses. She likes writing. She's a big writer. She likes boys. She would write love letters to older boys starting when she was just four years old. Oh my gosh. I'm uncomfortable.

Four is very early to write letters to older boys. is four years old. Oh my gosh. I'm uncomfortable. Four is very early to write letters to an older boy. Yeah, that's necessarily a little mash notes. I mean, you know it's bad if back then they were like, this is inappropriate. That's not OK. She's just barely ready to get married. Look, when you're 10, we could start talking about marriage.

I mean, you're not wrong. Okay, so then things hit the skids, as they say in the business. When she was six, her dad died. Okay. Had an illness, kicked it. Doesn't have a will, forgot the will part, which is weird for a judge with no legal training. But yeah, no will.

So he's got, he had 13 kids. Rat race? Yes, rat race. We about to do rat race? Yes, this is rat race. He had 13 kids, including kids from a previous marriage. So he's got a shitload of kids and no will. So there, a lot of those kids are adults now with families, and one demands an inquest and

that leads to the mansion that the family lives in, the one that Pink lives in, to be auctioned off. So it's split between the huge family, which means no one really gets much money, and Pink's family goes from living a very wealthy, extravagant life to just basically the salary of like a factory worker at the time. From Pink to the red. It's going to feel better if you just keep moving. Hurry. Yep.

Go quick. So her mom still made sure that she was educated and got to ride your horsies. Now Pink is, she's very scrawny, and she's got like a wild streak. Is she a pistol, you call her a pistol? Sure. A minx. She's really into causing trouble more than she's actually doing schoolwork.

Still loves riding, she loves writing fairy tales. Okay. And her mother has five kids, so five of that 13 are the moms. And that's not a lot of money, a factory salary for a family of six. So she needs a home and she needs food to feed the things. So she remarries.

Okay. He's drunk. Yeah, always. Why is it in this time the second husband's always an always always junk because that's the guy that's around all the good ones have been taken the non-junk around and they're just desperate. They're like it's Radio Flyer. What's Radio Flyer?

Exactly. It's Radio Flyer. What's radio flyer? Exactly. It's radio flyer. What's radio flyer? Don't movie. Oh, a movie. I haven't seen a flyer. Is that a second guy? Junior.

What the fuck? Get out. You're thinking a radio radio. First of all, we're not going to talk about radio, OK? Why? Why? Is it awkward? Yeah.

In the end, it was, there had to be a couple of people on set during the filming of radio who were like, hey. What are we doing? Real bad, right? Like, what's he doing? Come on. Hey, it's not good. There's a world where this story could be told.

This is the wrong way to do it. Not out of Cuba Gooding Jr. It's not him. No. Dude, the director keeps going, go for it. It's bad. Man. You know, I know that some people think they're good actors, but if you're not a good actor, your

agent has to step in and go, no, don't, no, you shouldn't do this. If your client gets involved in that movie, like day one on set, you gotta be like, I gotta check. We're pulling. We're pulling you. Nope. We're not doing this. I am 49% of me wants to put on the preview for radio, but thankfully the majority stake in me.

Between that and the other sister, they're the two greats. No. Didn't Rosie O'Donnell do one also? Riding on the bus with my sister. Now that, there should be an Oscar for the biggest whoopsie in that direction. And Rosie wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Hube is there and he's like, man, thank God Rosie did that

because radio's bad news, but Rosie, like Rosie's is. The radio's bad news, but Rosie, like Rosie's is... I mean, the thing to do would be to have like a red tide of fear and have a movie day of just all those movies. No, that's not the thing to do. Just make everybody feel really uncomfortable. Yeah, it's just to be like, look, like that's the thing. I think Hollywood, when it sniffs its own ass, is just like, we're making important. Yeah, go watch those movies. Yeah, go watch those movies. Help anything? No. Yeah. Was any cause pushed forward? Oscar causes? No, nobody. Has anybody ever won an Oscar for one of those? Yes. Rain Man.

brain man. Well, I mean, now we're getting into Tropic Thunder territory, but yes. But that again was not, it wasn't, they weren't like go all the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Sean Penn, I am Sam went all the way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but again, he's a great actor. It's still not like, when you look at the way things are now, like, you know, Bryan Cranston was... People come under fire for playing... Like, Bryan Cranston came under fire for playing a paralyzed guy. Like, we have this whole new prism in which we kind of view this. And when you look back on the 20 years prior, you know, some people are like, you know, we've overcorrected.

Go watch those movies and tell me we've overcorrected. Go watch those movies and tell me we've overcorrected. This, there's some of this lesson needed to be taught. Some of this lesson, there needed to be a reckoning. These people were getting away with performances that were really, really upsetting and distressing. And they were not doing it ever because they were like, this is an important story. They were doing it because they were like, this, nobody could tell me this is bad Yeah, no Mickey Rooney did one. I don't even want to know what that looks like bill Don't I want we need to get back into the story

This story is nothing to do with that dad is an alcoholic. Yeah second dad is an alcoholic He's also violent if you can imagine that at the time This story has nothing to do with that. Okay, so the second dad is an alcoholic. Yeah, second dad is an alcoholic. He's also violent, if you can imagine that at the time. He once pulled out a gun in the house and pointed it at one of Pink's brothers. Another time they were at a church celebration and he didn't want to go and the wife made him go, so he was upset and at the church celebration he pulled out a gun and pointed it at Mary Jane and

Said he'd shoot quote quote if she were the last woman on earth That's a new way to use that that's a new way to use it and you know what We don't need to use that. That's a new way to use it. And you know what? The gun sends a message. We don't need more. But I'm going to give him props. Why? Well, for using the phrase, it's a twist on the phrase. I don't think it's just drunk. But usually the phrase is like- Usually it's banging or like marrying or something. I wouldn't go near you if you're the last person. But he's saying, if you were the last person, I would kill you. I guess it is double insulting. It is.

It is. Oh, God. We only have each other. Be like, boom, wrong. Just me. So she runs and hides from him. And then a few months later, they're having a dinner and he loses it during the dinner and then he spends the entire night and part of the next morning just destroying the house.

He's smashing furniture. He's smashing all the dishes. Smashing everything. Throwing clothes in the mud. Look, good Lord, now he's really running out of stuff. He's gassing himself out. He's in the mud with my shawl. Punching holes in the mud. Look, now he's really running out of stuff. He's gassing himself out. He's in the mud with my shawl. Punching holes in the walls.

He's just punching the walls at this point. Is this the story of the escape room? Yes. This is the first escape room. At some point he picks up a bone from the dinner and throws it at Mary Jane and she catches it and throws it back. Like that. So he pulls out his gun and points it at her.

Well that's an escalation. That's an escalation. Apparently he always had the gun on him. That's an escalation. She runs out of the house to a neighbor's and she's safe't he can't get to her there so then he he goes and nails all the doors and windows in the house shut so there's one of those things where when you started it I was like this will be over pretty quickly but I guess when I think about the time frame yeah all night into the

morning yeah so now he's nailing any way out shut it anyway. He's well, he can't leave. Yeah, okay Well, he leaves one window on the second floor open and Then he uses that with a ladder to go in and out. So he's he's basically he's saying You do not you're not allowed to come in this place anymore. I live here now. I live here. And by the way, the value of the property has gone down. Got way down. It's been, I made some really weird changes.

Yeah. I took out one of the walls with my hand. It's made some, the redecorating, it's not like, I mean- When you're next door, like, God, it's just, I think it finally. Oh, I think he left one. Oh, there's a wind. There's a ladder coming. I think he's coming to the store. Oh.

I think he's- He's going back up the ladder with food. Now he's going back up the ladder with two bags of food. Huh. So I'm not- I feel like this apology is not coming. He's really doubled down. It feels like the marriage is really having a hard time here. This is one of those, when people say marriage is work,

this is like one of the times. No, this is, he's kind of dead ended. Yeah. I mean, there's just one, there's one entry point and it's a window that only he has a ladder to. Right, and he, oh, look at that. He pulled it up after he went in yeah, no that he did that earlier well so I feel like I

Can't I kind of feel like he's not gonna start to realize that he was the wrong thing he is I don't think he is I hope he's pointing the gun out the window now, okay? Oh We shot the ladder. Oh Finally that's strange. So Mary Jane and the kids rent another place. Okay. Because. What choice did they have?

He's living like a squirrel. Yeah. He's completely. He's got a full squirrel. Yeah. He's shut every, I mean, there's no everything. Yeah. So she files for a divorce, and at that time, divorce is rare, right?

So, in the county that they live in, there's only been 84 divorces in 10 years. Wow. So, they have to have a whole court thing and- Hers has to be the most acceptable. Like he has- You would think so. Like everybody in the neighborhood is like, well, yeah, no, he... He only left a window and he's the only one with the rope ladder. And the church people will be like, right, so he pulled a gun out at the church thing.

He's done that a lot lately. So Pink ends up testifying for her mom She tests about testifies about the violence and said that he would call her mom a whore and a bitch and then Neighbors testified of all the violence and stuff crazy stuff. They saw So the divorce is granted if you can I was waiting for it to not to be you literally just have to go Well, is that true? Have you nailed every window and door shut except for the second floor window, which you have a ladder? Your Honor? Yes?

I am squirreling. So it's actually got nothing to do with them. I'm just, I'm squirreling it up. What about when she says the reason why you did this is because she caught a bone, you threw at her and you threw it back and then she threw it back at you in the kitchen. We were boning.'ve heard of boning. Okay. We were just boning. Okay.

Boning in the bone yard is what some people call it. We should have seen that coming. But yeah. Where are you living now, sir? I'm still in the hole, the squirrel hole. The house. I made a nest. The house that you shared with.

Well, yeah. I mean, some people call it house, but it's more squirrely. Is it true that there's just one window you can get in and out of? Yep. Up top. Yep. Okay. Yeah.

That's for just in case. Right. Okay. Well, I'm going to grant the divorce, obviously. No. Well, I love her. I don't think you... I've shown so many different ways.

No, no, you're on the hook. When she makes me angry, I pull a gun and I point it at her face. If I didn't love her, would I do that? You would not do that if you loved her. No, it wouldn't bother me. Sir, we're living radio flyer. Radio? Like the Cuba?

No, no, no, no, no. Not doing that. Okay. Okay. No. So, uh, pink after this watching this and she's like a teen now she's like, uh, I have to make my own money and take care of I'll take care of me and my mom, but no one's gonna, I'm not gonna rely on anybody. I'm gonna take care of myself. So she goes to the state normal school, which to become a teacher. That's called the normal school?

Yeah, we've talked about this. Yeah, they're called normal schools. At some point they drop that because it just sounds weird. Yep, sounds weird. schools, at some point they dropped out because it just sounds weird. Yep. Sounds weird. Unfortunately, after a year, she's out of money and she has to quit school. Okay.

So I don't know why, but she changed her name when she was in school to Cochran with an E on the end. And then the whole family does it. Okay. And they lie about why she left school. I guess they're ashamed that she couldn't afford it. Okay, sure. They said she had a illness.

So then they moved to Pittsburgh. This is a very strange part of the story. It's like they're on the run for no reason. Yeah. Her brother has a business there, so they go there and she's 16. So if you're 16 and you're a lady at this time, you are expected to start thinking about marriage, right? You're focusing on the marriage situation, learning how to do the stuff around the house

and learning how to- Enjoy your little box. Well, I was going to say make a baby, but- Kind of the same. So she's not really into that. She keeps trying to find a job. Maybe because- I was just talking to my mother about-

The marriages she's seen haven't been great. I was talking to my mother about this earlier. When my parents got together, it was like, you just, this was it. It was like, you just were like, okay, this will be the one forever because it's time. That was how it worked. You're like, I got it. Well, we got to go soon. Yeah. And then you're like, 10 years later, you're like, I hate this person. Yeah, this is terrible. What a bad call. He's a monster. Yeah. So she's looking for a job, but she can't find one because she's a 16 year old. And no one hires women anyway, right? So Pittsburgh has a ton of newspapers.

She loves writing. She also loves reading the papers. And the dispatch has a column by a female writer, Elizabeth Wilkinson Wade, and she writes about advancing the role of women in society. But the paper also has an anti-feminist writer named Erasmus Wilson, and he is the city's favorite columnist

and has been for decades. People love Erasmus. They love is hot takes on the ladies. Oh man. So, it's so absurd to like, because you hear that first part and you're like, wow, that's so progressive. And then you hear the second part where it's probably just for him to be like, ma'am, stop writing. Oh my God. Ladies enough. Am I right? For the last time, the non- Oh my God. Ladies, enough. Am I right? For the last time, the non-penis should not have a shot.

Why would you give him that? What are you talking about? So for weeks in 1885, he keeps writing about a woman's place. He attacked the unhappy. So funny that what basically got her here was a guy who kept pulling a gun on her mother who eventually nailed himself into a house alone where he only had a rope ladder to get in and out of.

And they're like, man, women are nuts. Don't give them an inch. That's pretty much it. So he, this writer gets on terror in 1885 and he writes about a woman's place and he attacks unhappy quote restless dissatisfied females who tried to have a life outside of the home. So looking for jobs and whatnot and not just sitting while the excitement fun. And he tells them he says you just you should just be a happy wife and quote, make home a little

paradise herself playing the part of an angel. The the it really it's it's so crazy to sort of now having watched this entire experiment play out and what's changed and what's become better because of it. The like fragile, in power white guy ego is so, it's just like, don't let them leave the house. Like, that's a crazy thing to just be like, don't they, then they'll start to not want you. That's exactly right.

Don't let them, if they go outside, if they go, it's basically what I do with my cat. Where I'm like, if my cat goes outside, it becomes a lot more dangerous, he's gonna wanna go out at weird hour, like they're just like, no, she's not allowed, don't a lot more dangerous. He's gonna wanna go out at weird hour. Like they're just like, you know, she's not allowed. Don't let her go outside. Where are you going honey?

I don't think, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's pretty cool. These dishes could be washed. He said a woman's place in life is quote, defined and located by a single word, home. What about you? I'll go anywhere I want. I'm very good at this. I'm going to a bar. I go to a bar. Me and my friends are going to drink a thing that makes us really stupid. So women don't like-

Sorry I was out so late honey Barry and I tried to, we got drunk and tried to suck a horse's dick. Ended up sucking each other but that's the way it goes. You would not fare well out there with your tiny lady brain. You're, oh you'd be like a bird out there. Oh be bad. Just flying into buildings. It'd be bad. Yeah. It'd be bad. You try to run through a wall. Yeah. Oh, stay here in the house. Could I have something hot for my stomach? No. Oh, so all these women start writing in and they are not into it. And he's attacking women like pink.

Yeah, right. And he at one point wondered if the US would... So he keeps writing. He would wonder if the US would have to copy China where they quote, kill girl babies or sell them as slaves because they can make no good use of them. I'm just, he just pontificating. He's thinking. He's just putting these ideas we're putting out in the marketplace. Calm down women. Someone has to ask these tough questions. Should we be killing more girl babies? Pretty straightforward. As her ex stepdad drinks milk and the second floor of a house that he's nailed himself into. But this is doesn't seem so like a guy who's just posting shit on Twitter

to get reactions. Totally trolling. Yeah, totally. everybody. So like I said, more women are writing in. And then he called women who wanted a life outside the home, monstrosities and disgusting. So now Pink's had it. And she writes a letter. And she uses the pseudonym lonely orphan girl. That's how she signs it Okay log, so the dispatches editor reads it and he's like wow she can write There's a ton of grammatical errors, but like the content he's like this is this is good So in the next edition of the paper

He asked her to get in touch They don't print the letter, they just say, hey, lonely orphan girl, please get in touch with us. Trap. So the next day, 20-year-old Pink shows up. Oh, Gareth, we are also brought to you by Squarespace. All-in-one website platform for you to succeed and stand out online.

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Wilson And Wilson, who wrote all the stuff, is much nicer in person, obviously, because he's trolling. And he asks her, he goes, can you write a piece on the ladies, like how the ladies think and what's going on with the ladies? Her first article was called The Girl Puzzle. It's a good title. And it discussed the hardships unmarried women face and widows, right? So these women who have to work, the women who have to go,

all the women you're attacking are women who literally would just die if they don't have fucking jobs. Interesting. And about women who went hungry, so the kids would get fed. Like they were starving themselves because they could only afford to feed the kids.

Work at a factory with nothing to show for it. And she asked the wealthy to actually see these people and wondered why society couldn't offer upwardly mobile jobs to these women. And people like the story. People like the article. They're like, wow, well, this is kind of refreshing and not what man wrote this. So the response is a positive that the dispatch offers her $5 a week to write. In the movie version of this, it's like showing all the characters we've met so far. And one of them is her ex stepdad, who's just sitting in the second story of the house,

just smelly bearded, just like eating orange slices or eating it like, ah, Lollin' Arthur is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So she writes and she first writes about factory girls, girls who work in factories, they're called factory girls, women, but here they're called girls. And she interviews some, and so wealthy readers start to learn about these girls and what their life is like.

And one thing they learn about that's a big deal is, quote, catching mash. Sure. That means meeting a guy on a streetcar Then going for a drink and then having sex Excuse me. Yeah ladies enjoying sex This is what we were worried about

One called herself a quote, a man masher. Oh my God. So this is salacious. Yes. She asked the girl about her reputation and the girl said, quote, I don't think I've ever had one to risk. I work hard all day, week after week for a pittance. I go home at night, tired of labor and longing for something new, anything good or bad.

And to break the monotony of my existence, no one cares what becomes of me. I mean, definitely at the time guys like, this is the hottest thing I've ever read. Where, where did the factor girls go? We rode her into mashing. But it's just, it's just like, yeah, it's a world that probably never had light shone on it. You know, it's free. Probably never had light shone on it. You know what's free? Fuck it. Yeah. And it's fun.

Yeah, it's free and fun. I got to make two phone calls quickly. So she's there. She's saying there's nothing in my life. I can't get ahead. So I'm banging. Yeah. Good for her.

Get some head. Pink's writing strikes a chord with people. Like I said, her spelling and grammar is terrible. She's terrible with that stuff. But she's asking like Creston, she's writing with empathy. She's opening up a world that people haven't seen, right? This hidden class of people that like no one, all the wealthy paper readers have no idea. So it's also considered to be inappropriate at this time for female reporter to use her

actual name. So the paper gives her a fake one. Why doesn't it just go with lonely orphan girl? I can't wait to find out what this is. The Dispatch Editor chooses it and it's currently, at the time, it's the name of a character in a very popular song and he picks Nellie Bly. Nellie Bly? Yeah. The last name is horrible. So the factory series is eight parts and it finally ends.

People absolutely love it. And then after that's over, they give her more fitting woman assignments. Something that's more proper for a woman. Sure. Fashion and gardening. Right. great. So she just blows the lid off this kind of underculture. And to reward her, they're like,

now you're right about flowers. And dresses. And dresses and things that pretty girls like. Bubbles and unicorns, nails and eyelashes. All the big things the women think about. She just starts begging for a column. She's like, Please just let me write about some actual stuff and she can't for your own health. My god, if I give you a goddamn column, do you

know what's going to happen? Your boobs are going to go into your chest and your vagina is going to seal up. You will not be a woman anymore. Look. Look. We... I... Shh.

Stop talking. The men of this time know more than you'll ever know. And I know that's hard for your little brain to understand. But you have a baby head with a baby brain inside of it. You're little in your head. Your head is tiny and your brain is little. And what I'm trying to tell you is for your own good, if you start doing more stuff like that, your brain's going to pop.

Your little head's going to pop. Because this is for your own good. Now maybe in the future we could try to do another multi-part series or something like that. The successful one that I did? Yes. Marley successful? Yes.

Increased readership? Yes. But if I keep letting you do that, you understand what's... You need a break. It's like someone just ran a sprint. Now you got to go walk for a little bit. Why don't you need a break. It's like someone just ran a sprint. Now you gotta go walk for a little bit. Why don't you need a break? Because I'm a man and God made me with a big man head and big man heart and big man stuff. And look all over, see all the men? See all the men of industry?

Those are men doing that stuff. Why aren't women doing that? Because you don't hire us. Because your heads would pop. Your little baby heads would pop. Now trust me. Now do me a favor. Go get a dress that's a little bit shorter, come back tomorrow, and you'll write about daisies. Do you understand?

All right, come here. Come here. Give me a kiss on the forehead. Come on, that's what we're allowed to do. So she just keeps pushing for a column and they finally give in and they go fine, you can have a column. So she writes about poor working women and what they're going through and why they were like that and all that stuff. And then that leads to other papers in print, other columnists arguing with her about, you know, dudes argue with her about what women are like.

So, so now they're like, okay, you're arguing with everybody in the paper, so they put her back on the fashion beat. We're like, well, we gave you a chance. You're wrong because all the men are saying you're wrong. So she quits. Good. She's like, all right, later, but she doesn't get another job and a few months later she comes back.

Hmm. But now she's saying I'm an international reporter. And she wants to go for her first international job. She wants to go to Mexico and just write about Mexico. And they're like, we can't go alone. You're a woman. So she ends up taking her mom as her chaperone. Hold on, that's another woman.

She tricked us. That's double woman. She's double woman. It's worse. She gets there and finds out there's a bunch of other female reporters there, but they're all trying, they're looking for fame and she's looking for stories. So she goes off the beaten path to find stories of places no one goes, talks to people that

no one talks to. But at the same time, she's doing that stuff. She's censored by the ruling party. And she's trying to dispel stereotypes about Mexicans and that they're not lazy, you know, the classic stereotype. That's gone. She says they're honest, they're hardworking, they're kind. And she's there for five months. She's just keeps writing stories like this about, about Mexicans and Mexican artists

and all this different stuff. But then she writes an article about an editor who was arrested for criticizing the regime and then she has to flee. So she gets out of there and once she gets back in Pittsburgh, she flips the script and says Mexicans are uncivilized and cruel and not kind of just starts talking shit about them. So readers love the articles. And yeah. So the reader's like, I'll tell you what, once this woman found her racist writing, I really.

Okay, she is good. She's right. Wilson, the anti-feminist guy, is only upset that he had to correct her grammatically bad copy, right? So she is put back on the society beat. Right. Lady stuff. Yep. And then three months later, one day, she just doesn't come to work.

And Wilson finds a note that says, quote, I am off for New York, look out for me, blie. So she's done, she's going to the big city. She's gonna make it in the big city. She thought she'd find work really easily based on what she had done with her stories. But after months in New York, she's got nothing.

This is me in LA. This is me. I'm like, everyone, get ready. I'll be on NBC within a month. Five years later, I was like, what kind of Batman, do you want the entertaining Batman, or are you looking for the, like, I'd like to do a bit of a jokey Batman. What kind of party does Gus want to have?

I think that's a pretty common story, people coming out to LA. So women only make up 2% of the profession. So she goes and pitches a story to the Dispatch in which she would go to editors in New York and interview them about women reporters and They're like, okay, that's interesting And all these guys say they have no problem with women, but they are not as accurate as men

Look um it is men. Look, the brain of a woman is the size of a squirrel. Now we have medical evidence to back this up. So this is not one of those, I want women to succeed. I'm both feminists. I love a good mash. I love a mash. I love a mash. I like mashing from behind because I could picture myself. I'm actually not interested in the job. So now the problem is that we

all want women involved. They're just going to die from doing this. You know what I'm saying? No, it makes sense. What is a squirrel's store? What's the answer? Nuts. What do men have? Nuts. Do you see how simple this actually is? No. Of course you don't. You have a squirrel head and a brain of a squirrel inside of the squirrel head.

The Herald's editor said it would be ungentlemanly to give women hard-hitting stories about scandal or crime. Crazy. It would be rude. The World editor, Colonel Cuckrell, said men were better at reporting and women should just get married. Look, let's be honest. So the story causes a bit of a stir.

It's published in Dispatch and then it's republished in a trade paper. And so Nellie now goes back to Cockrell at The World and she says, I would like a job. And she pitches posing as a European immigrant and entering America as an immigrant. That's a great story. It is a great story, but he is like,

that is not appropriate for a woman reporter. Instead, you should get yourself committed to the notorious women's lunatic asylum on Blackwell's Island. All right. Good. So much more. It's much greater risk of safety getting off that boat. Why don't you go where they electrocute you? So there's a lot of alleged abuses and deaths there. Papers had written of the brutality. One woman had apparently given birth while in a straight jacket. Oh my God.

Wasn't that terrible? That's crazy. It was, it's a very dangerous assignment and she's not going to be an official employee. She's freelance. It sounds like they're just trying to get her there. Yeah, it's like there you go. Stay in that room. Yeah, get get in the crazy. I don't have to worry about it. Yeah, yeah, get in the crazy house.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be fine. You see the problem is she tried to do too much. Women have the brain a size of a thimble. We just proved it. Very small. So she takes the gig and she asks Cockrell, she's like, well, how will I get out? And he says, quote, I don't know yet. Only get in. I don't know.

But just get in there and well Write the story. I'm the brains of the operation. So I got this we got this He tells her to use the name Nellie Brown and to stop smiling so much Your character doesn't smile as much Trust me. I know what I'm doing. She goes to the DA and makes him promise he won't prosecute her.

And he's like, you shouldn't do this. It's really dangerous. But she does it. And she checks into a boarding house for women and acts insane. She keeps calling all the other boarders insane and she refuses to sleep and she's just scaring the other women. She stays up all night just making crazy faces in the mirror and finally the cops are called and they come and arrest her and she's brought for a judge.

And in court, the judge is like, do you have any family or contacts or anybody we can contact? And she just laughs at him. And he then decides, well, she's clearly been drugged and kidnapped, what else? What else could be going on here? And also she has a very weird accent.

So he asked if she's Cuban, and she said, Sí, señor. I see. Now, the judge wants to help this young lass. Uh-oh. Because, quote, she looks like my sister, who is dead. Your Honor, permission to remind you what the standard is? I only help the ones that look like my dead sister.

As a matter of fact, I believe this one to be my dead sister. Poor Bernice. Bernice. So he reaches out to reporters and he tells them to get her name out there hoping someone recognized her and come forward. Like put her description out and all that. Is the plan going wrong? She just is supposed to go into the...

It's not going on, but she's trying to get into the place. Instead reporters turn her story into this crazy mystery. The Sun wrote, quote, Who is the insane girl? The Times called her a mysterious whale. Wave. Sorry. Well, she's a big whale. No family comes forward, obviously, because there is no family exist.

So he finally sends her to the Bellevue Insane Asylum. Okay. And she tells doctors she sees faces in walls and she hears voices and doctors conclude she quote had softening of the brain. What did I tell you? Which is a medical... She's got a baby brain. She's got a baby brain.

She's got a pudding head. Jim, you were right. I mean, I. And I was never laughed out of the room, but people said I was being harsh. And now that you put it that way. Look at where she ended up. You are completely correct. You understand?

Yeah. She's got mud head. Yeah, no, you said it. And she's got a bunch of. She does have mud head. She's got nothing inside of that noggin. It's very soft. Now if she had stayed in the home and just washed the pots Now you make a really good

No, no, no, it's not no No, it is. No, no, no. It's irrelevant. Okay. But she left. What? She left me. She felt that I wasn't understanding, which is a big problem in the brain of a woman. Oh, okay.

The second you start to point out the flaws, they think you're attacking them. I feel like you should just not talk anymore. You know? I have so many things to say. You should. And they're mainly about women's heads. Okay, I'm going to move on. So she, they also said she was undoubtedly insane and positively demented.

So she's admitted. When she gets in there, they immediately strip search her. They douse her with freezing cold water. She has to sit on hard benches from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. without talking or moving. I'm not sure what that is. I guess I've really romanticized the way they used to take care of the mentally infirmed. Oh, it used to be terrible. No books, she can't read, nothing.

Just raw dogging it there on the bench. Yep. They have, they're given very little food and the food that they're given is spoiled and it has bugs in it. While the staff are munching on fresh fruits and treats. The staff also have very thick warm clothes while the patients are in very thin dresses and freezing. And then nurses beat them with broom handles. They choked them.

They gave them black eyes. They screamed at them. They'd spit in their face for no reason. They're just being abused. Just because. And then her editor's sitting there like, I wonder what ever happened to that reporter. Did she get that? Did she get in? Where did...

I never got a note from her. She was gonna go somewhere. Where the hell was it? God damn it. Oh boy. Let's go get some food. I'd love tuna. Is that a new one?

Is that an old one? I just left them on a tuna thing. Have you ever eaten only tuna? No. Oh, it's great. The tuna diet? Oh, tuna's just the only thing I'll eat. You should try it.

That's the smell. There's an odor. I can't smell it, is what I'm told. Only everybody else can. It also explains why there are 47 cats in here. Yeah, no, I'm pretty much tuna only. So that's kind of what I'm doing. Chicken of the me.

Hey, yeah, no, I'll tell you what. You know, I P it never been junkier. Stop what? My God, stop talking. No, no, no. I'm just saying, dear God, please stop talking. Okay. But I'm just recommending this diet.

Dear God, please. I'm just telling people the upside. There's no upside. Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah, it's like bullets are coming out of your pee. Stop it. And let me tell you a little something about my sweat. Bad boys of podcasting.

Yeah. Bad boys of podcasting. So they, they, they would talk to women who had meant the nurses, they would talk to women who had mental issues, like actual people who were there for a reason. And they would like whisper in their ear that like he's a devil might be saying that about a doctor so then the patient would then freak out and attack the doctor and then The nurses could then abuse the patients more because they just attack someone so as a whole It's very it's Abu grape There were two towels in one tub for 50 patients.

Two towels? And one tub, I mean, it's all bad. That's all offing. And that included patients that had skin eruptions. Skin eruptions? Tuna. Two towels is not a lot of towels. Two towels is a shocking-

It's after two people. After two people, it's not a towel anymore. It's just a wet thing. Jesus Christ. That's crazy. There were other sane women there, like Nellie. Some of them were immigrant women who didn't speak English and just got tossed in there. She's crazy.

One woman had asked if she could be put in the poor house because she had no money, but instead they brought her to the insane asylum. Fuck. There's a woman named Tilly, and her friends were supposed to bring her to a convalescent home, but instead they brought her here.

Oh my God. So one woman was committed by her husband because she had, he said she was attracted to other men. He just said that. I'm a fucking piece of shit. And they were like, oh yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, bring her in. Wonder what's going on, you're gorgeous.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, bring her in. I wonder what's going on. You're gorgeous. So Nellie immediately behaved normal once she got inside. She's like, okay, I'm in. It's really no benefit to doing that. Yeah, she can see everything. But they kept her locked up.

It was a prison for women the world really just had no place for quote a Human rat trap easy to get in but once they're impossible to get out And after ten days the world gets her out Not sure how they like vouched for something but they got her out right She said she left the women behind to quote, a fate worse than death. Oh man. So she writes a two part expose behind asylum bars. This is very famous, big undercover reporting big deal even today. And it's printed on- Oh yeah, you know, big deal, even today. And it's printed on-

Oh yeah, I know it. Yeah, sure. It's printed on October 9th, 1887. It's shared across the nation. Like everybody's reading this thing. It was then also sold as a book, 10 Days in a Madhouse. And people love her style of writing.

It's engaging, it's detailed without being overdone, it's very empathetic. And she gets what she wanted most, a job in the world's newsroom. And she then testifies in front of a grand jury about what happened in the asylum. And the world wrote of itself an article titled, The World, Their Savior. This is, this is Pulitzer's paper. Huh? This is Pulitzer's paper, by the way.

The world is congratulating itself for saving the people. It's so ahead of its time. This is like those MSNBC commercials when they're just like, this is who we are. Or like, it always cracks me up with CNN. It'll be like, show a report and be like, Jeff Michaels, Beirut. And it's like, CNN. So a guy went somewhere?

Pretty cool, huh? Yeah. So that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing. That guy went there. We paid for it. Yeah, we did it. So we're doing. That's what we're doing. That guy went there. We paid for it. Yeah, we did it. We're badass.

The paper said the story brought in one million in aid. Damn. Well, an asylum tour was given to city commissioners and also Nelly. So the city knew it wasn't great there, and so they had given some funding, but not much. And then, so they give this tour, and Nellie said, you know, now it's looking great.

The worst violations are gone. They clearly had just cleaned the place up for the visit. Of course they did. Yeah. They clearly had just cleaned the place up for the visit. Of course they did. But Tilly was now, she's been in there for weeks. She went in totally sane. Now she's nuts. The place has made her, it's just constant abuse.

It's made her insane, as she said. And so her reporting massively increases funding for the asylum and it also popularizes this new type of journalist, female journalist, the quote stunt girl reporter. So now paper stunt hiring women. We got to get one of them blies. The woman has a very large brain when it comes to breaking news. So they did undercover work. Also, they would like go on to cover stories for adoption agencies and as beggars and they as chorus girls, one pretended to be pregnant and tried to get an illegal abortion. So they're like, obviously she couldn't because she was not a baby. I don't know how to you see the problem there, right?

I don't know. I'll tell you this, but you're not pregnant. You imagine if that story broke today, it would be like some like Josh Hawley would just be like, got women showing up to have abortions and they're not even pregnant. That would be, yeah, that would be crazy. So the world hired more women, but not, so Pulitzer is the guy who owns the world. And he hired more women because he thought she needed competition because he thought jealousy and trying and people trying to one up each other would create better stories.

Just because it's women. I know. I think that was everybody but right. Okay. But Pulitzer was like, let them fight with a crazy way. So Nellie did more undercover stories. She exposed political corruption. She got arrested to write about

unscrupulous lawyers, on and on, just a bunch of different stuff. She also became known for interviews, which were interviews at the time were derided, like people thought it was too invasive, like, but she did them really well and people really liked them. She she like interviewed every alive ex-first lady and she just interviewed a ton of people. She was like the biggest interviewer and a colleague said she wasn't very smart but she had quote a warm and sensitive heart. Sounds like she's pretty smart. Yeah, she's clearly smart. What a prick. Basically, he was saying, this is a weird thing.

It's a female perspective. That's what you're getting. You're getting a female perspective. A woman, how do you put it, cares? I don't know. You see, the man's brain is unable to process the fact that emotions are important to beings and that we all have those, but because they have tiny little squirrel heads, they're unable to allow emotion to be part of that thinking.

They have a brain. They just use a small little part of it. Like even the way you're looking at me right now, it's sort of this empty, dull look. Yeah, go ahead. Fuck? Fuck. There better be more to that sentence. Can I fuck?

No, no, no, no, no. See, right now what happened is his little, he's processing intimidation as attraction. I like. Yeah, he doesn't know what to do. He's probably not even attracted to me. He's so intimidated by me, he doesn't really know how to experience this properly. The way he's kind of nodding and still sort of talking, you can tell that he thinks he

understands what's going on, but he has no clue what I'm actually talking about. I like it. Yeah. So he thinks it's going sexual because again, in his head, he unable to to figure out that what he's really feeling is intimidation. That's why he keeps winking He's he's he wants me. You know, but deep down he doesn't we don't have pictures yet, but I'm gonna draw him a dick Yes, he so he's just sort of he's grasping at straws, but- It's a page one dick. See, he's saying things that are pretty pathetic, honestly. But this is the way he'll cope and he'll get there, but it's just going to take a lot of time. It's just like a chimp learning

that if he touches a live wire, it'll shock him. He started dancing to and fro because he's just, again, his head has something in it but it's not the stuff that most people should have in it. You want it? No, no, no. I'm again telling you very clearly, I'm not into it. This is an interview, right? The tuna smell is the thing that I guess none of us expected. It's chunky.

Yeah, it is a chunky smell. So 17 years earlier, the novel Around the World in 80 Days had been written. Uh-oh. And it had a character circling the globe in record time. Now, that's a novel. That's fiction. record time. Now that's a novel. That's fiction. But Nellie says she thinks she can beat the fictional character around the world and do it in under 75 days. So they were like, yeah, only a man can do that. You'll drown. Because, mostly because men could pack light. Yeah.

Oh my God. Oh wow. You simply need too much stuff. You understand. And so Nelly got very angry and said quote, very well, start the man and I'll start the same day for some other newspaper and beat him All right Enough

So the editor let her take on the assignment without a chaperone and at 25 years old Nellie Bly left on a ship from Hoboken on November 4th 1889 and we will cover that in part two. Holy shit. Wow. How well known is she? I've never heard. She's pretty well known.

I mean I know who she is. Most people know her as the reporter who went undercover in the the asylum. That's what she's really known for. A lot of this other stuff I didn't know. But yeah. Oh my god. I got to pull up the I got to pull up the sources. Are you mansplaining?

I'm mansplaining to you because you are gross. I'm the man. I wouldn't really call you the man. I'm the best. Sources, Nellie Bly, Daredevil reporter, feminist by Brooke Kroger, Nellie Bly around the world in and I want to say that one And then sensational the hidden story of America's stunt girl reporters by Kim Todd and Research was done by Brittany Cohen Brown who has done research for us for it's really good

Sounds sounds like a woman. I'll stop the bit. Wow. Yeah. All right. Great. Yeah. Part two. More next week. All right. Love you guys. So I travel a lot. I mean, a lot, perhaps too much to some of you, but that's kind of my gig. Right. So I'm out there.

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