The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 657 - Nellie Bly - Part Two

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Comedians Gareth Reynolds and Dave Anthony examine journalist Nellie Bly - Part two of two.  Tour Dates Redbubble Merch Sources   Mint Mobile  Rocketmoney   ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So I travel a lot. I mean a lot perhaps too much to some of you, but that's kind of my gig, right? So I'm out there. I'm living out of suitcases or suitcase sometimes if I bring the big boy and I want all the comforts of home That's why I stay at an Airbnb whenever possible recently I had some gigs in Fort Collins, Colorado And I was with my friends and we were shooting some stuff and before we got to the gigs We were like, let's just get an Airbnb and it is just a more comforting existence you have a kitchen you have a yard you know it's communal living it's just a less stressful place more enjoyable experience so when I go on tour you know like I'll be going on tour
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Starting point is 00:03:54 Rocketmoney. Get some more pocket money. You're listening to The Dollop. This is an American history podcast. Oh, you're doing a Dracula voice because it's our Halloween episode? Each week. That's great. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:09 We should do this the whole episode. Read a story from American history to my victim. I know because I'm also a Dracula. No, no, no. Garrett Reynolds. Yes, hold on. I want to suck your facts. Oh, I want to learn your facts.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It could have been so good. I want. I want to suck. I want to. It's so good what we were doing. I want to. Now it's not. I it's just hard for me to not play Dracula. Yeah, but that's fine. It's.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It's the sucking. It's the fact stuff and things like that. It's it's a bad Dracula. Like, it's a bummer that I was a Dracula and you couldn't figure out something else to do. I want to. I'm used to that. I want to suck your feets. You could have gone werewolf.
Starting point is 00:05:08 You could have gone a lot of different things. Do a werewolf. See what I mean? I'm not going to do that. It sucks. I don't want to be that guy. It sucks. I was terrified. No, I mean, it's just in general. It sucks to do. A lot of people who have kids, I want to apologize for scaring your kids.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Okay, all right. Here, i'll do my part again gareth reynolds who has no idea what the It's a werewolf. Fuck you. Oh, good. Yeah, great. Perfect. It's a, it's my, it's a little, my top hat's a little, uh. Yeah, you want it a little off-kilter though. Do I?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah, you want that. You want it to the side a little. It looks weird. Yeah, you want that. Actually, it to the side a little. It looks weird. It really does. Yeah, you want that. Actually, wait, it's the Halloween episode. I'm real sorry. Do we have any more ads? I feel like, no, we did that one. We did another one in the middle.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Vamp for a second. Just vamp. Okay, vamp. Like a vamp. Oh, how funny is a vamping vampire? I want to suck your facts. Jesus. I want to suck. It just goes into the time guy
Starting point is 00:06:27 I want to suck your meatball I'm a vampire from Italy. I like to suck a pasta. I like to suck Okay What are you ready? What do you have? Huh brought a bag You brought a bag. You brought a bag of something. Yeah, I got a bag. Okay, well, then we're moving on.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Gareth, you can also find us on Patreon where we have different things. We do several different content videos a week. And then also, you can mute yourself by the way. Also, we have a.plus on Apple, which we just posted a new reverse yesterday. By the way, a lot of people love it. And my mother said it was her favorite thing she's ever heard us do.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And it's very frustrating for you. It's the worst thing I've ever heard another person say to another person Why baby? You're an idiot Yeah, but this is Halloween is what we yeah, baby dress up people can't people who aren't watching on patreon or you or Then they're not getting this But anyway, so last week we ended with Nellie Bly who had gotten rehired at the World newspaper in New York who is run by what's his name? Pulitzer. And she pitched the idea of going on a round the world trip and beating the time of a fictional
Starting point is 00:08:11 character who went around the world in the novel. That was going to be my question, around the world in 80 days. No, around the world in 80 days, right. And then she is going to try to do it in 75 days. And there's not an actual person trying to beat her time. That was just like a threat she made, right? She was like, bring a guy. I'll beat him.
Starting point is 00:08:33 There will be. I don't know if I've gotten there yet. You could be just jumping ahead. You mentioned it. Oh, did I? Yeah. So another reporter was like, I can do that, but went the opposite way.
Starting point is 00:08:44 She went. A classic America, just classic guy with directions. It's a lady. They're both ladies. No. It's behave. I want to apologize for getting misgendering people right off the bat. It's just part of allowed to do that when I just didn't know the.
Starting point is 00:09:03 It's not like I saw. It's not great. white men have it hard enough So I don't think I covered any of this Right. Did I cover any of her trip? No when we left off, I believe she was just about to go. Okay So is that true so I didn't talk about her monkey? Are you fucking, is that a serious question? Are you asking me if I, no. Are you monkey spoiling?
Starting point is 00:09:37 Did she have a monkey? We'll get to it. So she's going without a chaperone. She's 25 years old. No, wrong. She's got a monkey. She gets on a ship in Hoboken on November 14th, 1889. That's officially the start of the November 14th, 1889.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And she has only one case because remember the whole thing was like a lady couldn't travel. Yeah. It's possible she needs a wardrobe. She wears the dress the entire time. has only one case because remember the whole thing was like a lady couldn't travel. Yeah. She needs a wardrobe. She wears the dress the entire time. She gets seasick right away. She wears one dress. Yeah. She just has one. She went the other direction. Yeah, she did. And then the dude laughs at her for getting seasick and says she won't be able to do it and shits for France. Now Cosmopolitan magazine also has a reporter, Elizabeth Bezland, who she's going to try to beat Nelly. And she takes off going west.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Were they doing this as a stunt together or the other? No. So this other woman was just like, I'm doing it too. She's racing someone who doesn't know that they're racing. Oh, so who doesn't know? Nellie doesn't know? Nellie doesn't know that there's someone else racing. So this other woman is just like, I'll do it too. I'll beat you.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And it's like, I'm not trying to. So Nellie is sending dispatches on her journey and marriage proposals are pouring in because guys love it. A lady who, what they want is a lady who traveled around the world that then they can have in their house and not let her leave. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Right. A geography craze sweeps the US. Everybody is so excited about this. Do we ever have one of these again? Will there ever be this sort of like, we're all into algebra. Oh, I don't know. Why don't you tell me where Kazakhstan is? It's near, I don't want to say, but it's far away. You can see it from Alaska. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So school kids are like tracking her as she goes on her journey. A board game is created in honor of her journey. So it's like a big deal. Do you think a big problem with the world and society is that our heroes are now just total fucking morons who do nothing. I couldn't disagree with that more. Look at us. Yeah, that's true. So she goes to Europe. She goes through Asia. In Malaysia, she buys a pet monkey. Now we're back. Oh, good. My mother's phone's ringing. Can you hear that? Very much so. It's a super long ring. Super extended ring.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I asked her very kindly to turn it off. Well, to just be quiet around the house, but she... Is she home right now? She's home, yeah. She's here, but she's in the shower, so we're just going to have to live with this a little bit. So the monkey hates Nellie. Interesting. Quote, he is a savage little fellow and takes to almost anyone but me.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Okay, what's the I'm all for it. But what's the upside for her to have a monkey who hates her on board? I don't know the story normally ends pretty badly. It's just what is like it's what is it like a little capuchin? I Don't know what kind of monkey it is not a howler. It was named McGinty. Of course. Yep. Okay. I It's a pretty traditional Monkey name absolutely from Asia. Yep. It's a pretty traditional monkey name. Absolutely. From Asia.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yep. It kept in a small cage on a ship, a man who, well, man sort of following Nellie around for days. He's sea stalking? And kept asking her to stay with him. Ah, Jesus, bro. How are you out creeping like following a woman's car? Oh, hello. Having to follow her ship.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Hello. Would you, hi, would you like to stay with me? No, I'm actually doing a whole thing for the paper. I have a bed. Great. We have one here too. So just stay on your,. They're in your nose. They're yours. Stay on your vessel I have to go stop my bed. Yeah, no, I'm good
Starting point is 00:14:19 I have a monkey so I really am my I'm swamped. Question. No, please, God, this is hard to just... Would you like to stay with me, gentlemen? No, no, no, no, no. Hello. Yeah, hello, yeah, I see you. We've already talked, so I don't know if this is some sort of, yeah, maybe you've been drinking the seawater. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:14:42 No, you already asked it. I don't want to stay with you. Would you like to stay with me? All right. My good woman. Do we have any oars? My goodness. Let's get some oars out here. Look at your parts.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Let's do... Oh my God. Oh my God. It's a small boat. I mean, I really can't get away from you, which I just never thought of this. It's because I'm following you. No, yeah, I know. It's kind of a wind-based escape, which is problematic for... Shuffleboard, would you like to stay with me? I'm going to
Starting point is 00:15:10 stay on this ship, and I'd really like you to do your own thing. So... I'm going to look away from you. Great. Would you like to stay with me? I'm not that that was actually to you. I was just looking the other way. Okay, I have to go work on the Compass, so I'll see you later. I sleep in my top hat. I'm walk. I'm far away You just leaned over a little bit and said that I'm in the I'm in the I'm on the poop deck now I can't talk to you Dick oh McGinty I might need your I'm in the I'm on the poop deck now. I can't talk to you deck. Oh McGinty I might need your help. I'm doing it. Oh my god So one night
Starting point is 00:15:58 He this guy he's following her and he starts just raving about What a sweet death drowning would be Who the fuck is this guy and? That he and Nellie we're going to experience it together. This is crazy. That's called Marriage this is crazy but then a crazy. But then a passing ship's officers walking by and Nellie grabs his arm and is like, help. And the guy was like, I thought they were just lovers on the poop deck. But then she talks to the guy and they're taking her to the captain and tells the captain and
Starting point is 00:16:40 they keep the guy away from her. That is absolutely crazy. And yet very, very expected. On brand, but also so crazy. Wait, so who's the captain of the ship? There's just a captain. It's a passenger ship. So she's doing an embed just, in my head, this is stupid, but in my head it's like she's like out in the ocean like with one
Starting point is 00:17:02 other person and a monkey. She's on a ship. No, yeah, no, she's on a ship It's not she's not a raft. She didn't see it. It's just So, okay, so it's just a good story because she's gonna beat the time but she has no influence over that any of the like the sea No, it's just how terrible men are on the ocean. Well that I let's I know you know how this ends Let's not let's not discount that fella. Just yet. He might come back. He might come back You might yep in Hong Kong a traveler was just out the ocean banging an octopus
Starting point is 00:17:37 In Hong Kong a traveler warned her she was in danger of being beaten She didn't know what he meant He he was just like you're you're going to be beaten. And she's like, what? Here? For what? Crime? What? What are you talking about? And this is how she found out that the other reporter was racing her and winning. So she's, she's gone all the way to Asia, the end of Asia. She's at the end of Asia and she just finds out that there's someone racing her.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Man, if that guy finds out there's another woman on the sea is going to be like, Oh, I have a type. So now he's like, look, if someone else is racing me, that's their deal. I really don't care. I'm not in a race. She goes, she's also kind of touring. She's taking her time. Like when she goes to China, she goes to a leper colony, as you do.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And then she goes to the Temple of the Dead, and she sees the recently chopped off heads that you see. And are you going to say anything? I'm not happy with the information, but I'm not really sure what... Sure. Yep. Like, she's doing this for the story. So she's going to see these heads and yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And what's McGinty's deal? McGinty's just being himself. He's in his cage during the day. So in Japan, she finally gets on a ship headed for California. The final crazy. And then she get to California and then head on a train to Jersey City. And Nellie asked a stewardess while she's on board the ship if McGinty made it on board because she had to run for the ship.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And the stewardess says, quote, we have met. And then she showed a monkey bite on her arm. Oh, because McGinty's a fucking. Well, I mean so so I want to put this in perspective McGinty is a wild animal that's been caged What is the upside to having McGinty? Well, everybody needs a foil. Everybody needs a foil. Look look Dave we all want to have a Little monkey in a bellhop outfit. Okay, we all want to have a little monkey in a bellhop outfit. Okay, we all want that.
Starting point is 00:19:47 But there's also, there's a time and a place. It doesn't seem like if you've just taken this wild monkey, put it in a cage and it's biting everyone and hates you. This is why you are not a famous writer. So true, So true. She's now she had previous up to this ship journey been traveling just the common person way. Now she's traveling first class. She's fucking over it. After what? When once you got to on the the ship from Japan, she's like, I'm fucking done with the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Because there's some fucking creepy sea guys like, Hey, would you like to sleep inside of my bosoms? Just a big sweaty fucking weirdo. I mean, that is so crazy to be chasing a woman on the sea. It's fucking insane. Actively being able, it's obviously, yes. Expected. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. The guy, because the guy's thinking, well, she can't get off this. I definitely think there is a part of him that's just like, mm-hmm, you can only walk away so much. Yes, exactly. So she gets to California, and the world has arranged a train for her. So once she gets to California, they
Starting point is 00:21:12 put her on this special train. And so it's just a train for her. It's like a little train. And on the route, people are celebrating her being there. What's McGinty with us on the train? Yep, McGinty's there. People standing by the tracks and waving that whole deal. She now starts writing shit about the country, just like Mexico.
Starting point is 00:21:34 She now starts writing shit about the country she was in that she didn't write when she was there. Quote, there is really not much for Americans to see in foreign lands. We've got the best of everything here. We lack in nothing. Then when you go over there, you must be robbed. You get nothing fit to eat. They are very, very slow in Europe and to my mind behind America in almost everything. This is, I mean, look, first of all, how dare you say that on a trip where you got a monkey?
Starting point is 00:22:08 But also, that is, is she, if you're a woman who's the first real embedded journalist of your time, you have, it's probably very difficult for you to be like, other places are awesome. Yeah, I think, yes. I think- Or is she just like- I mean, I don't know. She, I don't think she was scared to like buck the, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So she just genuinely is like, everywhere sucks. I think she's- The problem is your stuff's not when you go to other countries. It's not there. It's like it's kind of like when a lot of the suffragettes were like, let's get the vote for other rich women. And you know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I like that. Right. Sort of. She's breaking down doors, but also there's, you know, there's some not great stuff. Right, right, okay. But she is an amazing journalist, so we can't really take that away from her. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I'll take away what I want, I'm a man. Yeah, I don't kick your ass. So she didn't really travel the world to see it, but to prove that a woman could do it. Like that was sort of the thing. She edited her notes to make herself seem more impressive. And what punch-ups did she do? Well, she claimed she was never seasick
Starting point is 00:23:33 and that McGinty had been presented from a Singaporean or Raja, which is not true. She just bought it. Sure. She arrived in Jersey, on January 25th and cannons were shot to celebrate, not at her. It's the guy from the sea. I will bang her. Um, 72 days fastest ever according to the world. She'd beaten the cosmopolitan reporter. Good because the cosmopolitan reporter while she, so it was the, they both got to California.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I think the other one got to California maybe a little bit before, but she did like a longer journey over the Rockies and, and whereas she's like the hair Nellie Nellie went down and the quicker route she lost she lost it was dumb I think she was probably also cocky she's like well I'm here first that's what I mean she's the hair she's like I got this tortoise in the hair never heard that the tortoise in the hair that's something you're making up I It might be. It very well could be. So this other way this I think this wig is not great quality.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Why? Because I can see maybe that's supposed to be maybe maybe is it a Halloween costume? Austin Powers wig. Yeah, I bet it goes like this. Yeah, you have it on backwards. Yeah, baby. That's Austin Powers. Yeah, baby. I'll be a OB Dave. Because let me tell you something. You don't look like Austin Powers as much as you look like Beth. That's come on. You know what it looks like is the Wendy girl. Look like this is one of those times where I'll just adjust the costume. Yeah, yeah. So people, I think she's taken from Jersey, she's taken into New York on an open carriage
Starting point is 00:25:36 and people are cheering and yay, the fastest lady around the world. She gets home, McGinty finds his new home, his new place he lives. He's really hanging in there. It's an apartment. He quickly breaks every dish that he can find in the apartment. Yeah. To be fair, he's a monkey. Right, right, right, right, right. He's a wild animal. He doesn't want to be here. He wants to be with his family. He has been taken away. Doesn't know what dishes are. Doesn't know you can't smash them. I saw this video a couple
Starting point is 00:26:03 days ago of this family that just got a couple baby goats And the goats are like cutely hopping on the couches and stuff in their house and they're like laughing and I'm like this ends in Absolute destruction. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but they're just like this is hilarious. They're so cute It's like this you're not you can't live like this. You can have goats hopping outside. Oh my god That's a dream Not a good thing. Yeah, you can't have them in the fucking kitchen So the world circulation had just skyrocketed during her journey The paper Doesn't thank her doesn't give her a bonus however
Starting point is 00:26:46 The paper doesn't thank her, doesn't give her a bonus, however, which she's not happy about. And Pulitzer said, watch out for a gift from me. Great. No, never comes. Never gets it. So she leaves the paper. She's like, fuck off. I'm out of here. She's hurt. She's angry at her, quote, shabby treatment. And she vows to never work for a newspaper again. She's like, that's it. So I guess that's papers. Start a sub stack.
Starting point is 00:27:11 This is the T.A.B. story. Yes. Tyabee. Tyabee or Tyabee. Tyabee. He sucks. Tyabee. Mm hmm. T.A.I. Is that what it is? Yeah. And then there's a little Nazi thing at the end. You said Napi, but now he dots to the I with a N. Matt T. Nazi.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah. She tries the lecture circuit. She's like, I wanna make money this way. I'm gonna go out and look. Because she, it was just a huge star for 72 days, right? She was like, nobody goes to see her lecture. She was like, nobody goes to see her lecture. Men talk shit about her saying it was unseemly for her to seek profit from her trip.
Starting point is 00:27:52 You gotta. Like how many dudes have we heard go on tour, lecture tour after they've done something. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. Excuse me, you have a vagina. Like a guy will cut his balls off and then have a musical and they're like, that's disgusting. It is amazing.
Starting point is 00:28:20 If you get mad at it, it just won't stop. So you have to just really, you'll just it just won't stop so you have to just really you have to just you have to just congratulate him on being so genuinely Oblivious. Yeah But it did make all the attacks made her unhappy. Yeah, of course she wrote a book 72 days around the world and that was a hit and Then she's offered a three year contract
Starting point is 00:28:46 writing novels, so like dime store novels. Okay. But I don't know why, she's not, I think she's just not happy about the way everything is turning out. So she goes to live with her mother in the country. And then she becomes depressed. And she puts on weight and her doctor says,
Starting point is 00:29:08 well, something's obviously wrong with your blood. Why else would you be depressed? Terrible to hear the path we're about to go down is not good to hear. So she stays depressed. It's your blood. It's, well, we've got to take an eye. Has a monkey bitten you recently?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Oh, goodness. Oh dear, unfortunately the monkey bitten you recently? Oh, oh, goodness. Oh dear. Unfortunately, the monkey gave you sad. Well, she's sad for three years. She's just there for three years, not doing anything. She walked away from the book contract. She didn't do any of that stuff. She's just bummed out. Like it didn't work the way she wanted.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. I think very, very relatable to people in our industry where you think you're going to achieve, you don't. It's a fucking bummer. And not to mention that the problem, like it's the society versus like your skillset. You know, she doesn't want to write books. She wants to be a news reporter and she's very good at it as we've seen. So then a new world editor comes in and he reaches out and says, Hey, do you want to be a columnist? And she accepts.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And her first piece is an interview with imprisoned anarchist Emma Goldman. Oh, wow. And Goldman, to everybody in America, is like a destructive, dangerous agitator. But Nellie called Goldman a quote, modern Joan of Arc and sort of laid out all of her- And who is that? And laid out all of her criticism of capitalism. She gave her, you her, respected her. Great. But she's not good at what she was hired for, which is the slice of life column thing,
Starting point is 00:30:53 which she was never good at. Yeah, right. What do you mean? Like the fashion and fucking nonsense. Oh, right, right, right, yeah, right, right, yeah. And what was Emma wearing? It's, right, she was supposed to write stories about walking her dog and what the new bells were
Starting point is 00:31:08 like on the cable cars and shit like that. You're supposed to just write garbage. What's your favorite flower? Well, I could do it at home. That could be good. Can I have two columns for that? That'd be great. She then, she writes a piece about being in a haunted house all night while holding two pistols
Starting point is 00:31:28 But apparently it was so bad. It wasn't printed. That is a crazy setup. What the fuck? No, that's that's great She just wrote a horror movie That's like that Bad house is like 30 or more. That feels like she picked out two things from two hats and was like, hey, haunted house. And what am I going to do in the haunted house? I'll just hold two loaded pistols for the night. That is just the amount of people
Starting point is 00:31:56 you want to shoot in a haunted house. Yeah, a lot. Everything. She did do some hard hitting pieces while she was writing the column. Other papers started teasing her about her self flattery, right? So she's always writing about how great she is. Like she noted when an interviewee complimented her intelligence, a good look.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So anytime someone in a, that she's interviewing said she was hot or smart or whatever, she would write that. Make anytime someone in that she's interviewing said she was hot or smart or whatever she would write that everybody knew that. Yeah. But people over the world subscriptions go up. She she covered the Pullman Palace car company strikes which you know about. Good guy. She went to Illinois and when she went there she was against the strikers but after a very brief time she came around and workers opened up with her because she had that weird empathy thing. Nellie quote, before I'd been half a day in Pullman I was the most bitter striker in town. Good.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So she's the only major reporter writing the truth about what's happening in Pullman. Yeah. And she interviewed Eugene Debs when he was in prison. Damn, she's got some fucking gets. He had been sort of portrayed in the media as someone who was driven crazy by drinking. And Nelly, however, showed him as like a smart, sober, very kind man. And then while he was in the marina, he said, you should look into the conditions at Cooks County Jail, because that's where they've got a lot of strikers and stuff and people
Starting point is 00:33:35 who shouldn't be there. And he said it wasn't, it wasn't fit for quote, wild dogs. So what about a monkey? Okay, this is what I have a monkey named McGinty who okay, Jesus Christ. So he's okay. He's looking for plates. He loves to smash plates. I think he would fit right into some sort of prison or something like that. Yep. So he's it's been hell. I acquired him for reasons I know not. But maybe the solve here is I do an embed in that prison. And maybe McGinty stays in the prison. That could be interesting. You want to stay with me?
Starting point is 00:34:17 I don't, sir, I really, shouldn't you be on your ship? I really. I'm right here. I don't know how. I mean, I'm literally. OK. I think I picked. Right here. I don't know how. I mean, I'm literally. OK, I think I picked up breathing heavier. Yeah, no, you look bad. Yeah, you look a lot bad.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Yeah. Why is your shirt more yellow fingerprints? That's just how it goes. When you're macaroni, when you're in love, you eating cooked macaroni and cheese with you. I should get in the ocean. Were you eating cooked macaroni and cheese with your hands? You and I should get in the ocean. Did you eat cooked macaroni and cheese with your hands?
Starting point is 00:34:51 How else are you going to eat it? Okay, I'm in the middle. I'm on my comeback. Would you like to stay with me? No, I don't even think. Where are you staying? We're in a jail. Are you in here?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yeah, right now. Okay, okay. That makes a lot more sense. Can I ask what you I mean, I would guess that there is a lot of reasons why you'd be here. But what are you in for? Because maybe there is illegal to tell a woman that you're into her. OK. Yeah. All right. Take care.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I'm meeting with someone important. Well, I got fucking, that little narc? Oh my god. It's crazy. So she goes and she does interviews and looks into the paper and her reporting leads to the jail being overhauled. But then all of a sudden she elopes. No one knows about this guy.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Robert Livingston Seaman, who is a 70 year old billionaire. Gareth. Gareth. No. Gareth. What? Grow up. What?
Starting point is 00:35:58 Is it wrong to find that name to be... At your age. Tell me his name one more time please semen first whole name I'm common semen come on it's Robert Livingston semen I mean it's just a name and but it's a weird name it aged poorly I know it's based off of someone who you know was in the Mariner or something like that, but now it's, I'm sorry. If Taylor eventually meant glory hole, your last name would be funny to me. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:34 So, okay. Let's just hear the name one more time and then let's move forward. Robert Livingston Seaman. Yeah. Okay. There you go. Bob Cumm. Let's go, Dave. He's a 70 year old millionaire and she's 31
Starting point is 00:36:48 She's Anna Nicole Smithing. Yeah, basically, it's a it's a whirlwind relationship happens really fast. He's 71 and what 19 Oh something Where are we at now? I don't know where we're at. It's not it's 19 Yeah, I'll say 30s or something. Oh shit, really? Could be. Didn't we start in the 1800s? Yeah, but she was born, she was born, oh no, she was born in 1864.
Starting point is 00:37:17 You're right, it's close to, I was thinking she was born in 1889. So, yeah, no. Okay, either way, 71, 120 years ago. Yeah. That's decrepit. It is decrepit. I love you.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I just wanted to tell you how much. But hot. I just love it. There's so much we can do together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll totally do that. We'll make maybe something. All right. We'll go have a bit of water. Okay, maybe I have some water Why don't you take a nap right now? I take a nap in a minute, but maybe we should have some water Maybe you should go to bed. We could do water with straws. Let's do water in bed. We'll have water
Starting point is 00:37:59 We'll have no no no do it out here. We could light a fire. I Wanted to tell you a story. Are you Jimmy Carter? I wanted to tell you a story. Are you Jimmy Carter? Long time ago there was people who didn't have houses. And when they didn't have houses, they had to do something for them. And so we'd build houses for them. Hey, you're not supposed to be alive yet. some form And so we'd build houses for
Starting point is 00:38:27 Hey Live yet, we had a hammer Where the hammer? Hey We use a hammer. Hey time traveling Jimmy Carter. What are you doing here? Peanut farmer, what do you mean peanut farmer? Hey, I find a peanut Time traveling Jimmy Carter, what are you doing here? I'm on a mission. I'm a peanut farmer, hey. I'm a peanut farmer. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time traveling Jimmy Carter, what are you doing here? I'm on a mission. I'm going through time to help out some of the most important people in the history.
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Starting point is 00:39:08 Bye. I went too far in the future. Get the fuck out here space time travel, Jimmy Carter. I'll need to help you. But my legs are broken. Yeah, cause you shouldn't be here, man. I know. Well, the scientists approached me about doing this
Starting point is 00:39:24 and I said, it'd be a good idea, but approached me about doing this and I said if you're a good idea But now I'm doing it. Why would I go back in time if I can't help me? So that's why we went into the future for a minute And that was a whole conundrum unlike anything you could even imagine No, let's talk about on the next What? You're sick of me? A little bit.
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Starting point is 00:42:10 Recently I had some gigs in Fort Collins, Colorado, and I was with my friends and we were shooting some stuff. And before we got to the gigs, we were like, let's go to the beach. And we were like, I'm not going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I had some gigs in Fort Collins, Colorado, and I was with my friends and we were shooting some stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And before we got to the gigs, we were like, let's just get an Airbnb. And it is just a more comforting existence. You have a kitchen, you have a yard, it's communal living, it's just a less stressful place, more enjoyable experience. So when I go on tour, like I'll be going on tour in a couple months, I always am like, well, could my place be an Airbnb? You know, just to have someone watching your place while you're gone and make a
Starting point is 00:42:52 little bit of money. And the answer to that is yes, yes, it can be an Airbnb. It's really just as simple as listing your place and letting it earn a little extra cash while you're away. So imagine someone staying at your home in Los Angeles while you're out there exploring the world. Turn your home into an Airbnb. Give it a shot. You might be surprised at how rewarding it can be. Your home might be worth more than you think.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Find out how much at airbnb.ca slash host. So Robert owns the iron clad manufacturing company in Brooklyn. Doesn't iron shit, right? He's handsome, he's kind, he's well dressed. He's a fancy man in New York. His family worried about her and their intentions. Yeah, they're like, why is this younger woman marrying our about to be dead dad?
Starting point is 00:43:42 People wonder, they're like, why the fuck would this reporter pick a guy 40 years older? Some papers said she was doing another undercover story and would title it something like, is marriage a failure? Nellie Bly tries it with a good old man. That's hilarious to be like. My latest stunt is banging a 71-year-old. So they lived in a big New York mansion, which she hated. She called it the Bleak House.
Starting point is 00:44:13 It's neglected and then Robert has an alcoholic brother named Edward. That's okay. Also, who also lives in the house. That's okay. You can make it do with any room you want to go. Because I went from being a female reporter to having a sitcom. That's right, and I'm a crazy character who never goes to the bathroom in whichever room he can.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So he would spy on Nellie. Drunk spying is phenomenal. The best. She cries, she comes here. Shhh. Shhh. Shhh. Shhh. And she'll just make one drink a little quietly and then they're not allergic to my presence. I'm not here, I'm a lamp.
Starting point is 00:44:55 I'm a lamp. Ha ha. The little string. She also would try to get Nellie and Robert to fight and wait who would he try to get the couple oh brother try to get the and something Robert would never agree to normally and Robert then reneged on a promise to support Nellie's mother and widowed sister and then she started thinking that Robert was having her followed. And then by whom? I'm just a simple street lamp.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So when she became sure that a guy that she was being followed she had she took some guy on a little you know she she led a guy around right to a cop and then had the cop arrested What she doing she's up to something can we talk to you sir, what what about um Yeah, for sure. Yeah, just having a John's a guy. I'm actually a lamp No, no, you're a guy. No, she says you've been following her and we've been following you and you've been following her I'm off. Okay So they take him to the police station and they're the man said quote why her husband has employed me to follow her That's pretty key in the P.I. follow game to be like, if they catch you, have a reason that you're doing this outside of me paying you.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I was paid to. Oh, fuck. You know what? When you said to have another reason, that's the only thing that came into my head. Robert, bad news. I was following Nelly and the police pulled me off. They took me down. Yeah, they took me downtown and asked me a lot of questions
Starting point is 00:46:47 They tricked me, but don't worry. I told them everything So this guy's name is Henry Hansen he is a caretaker of one of Robert's properties So they're like just friends kind of okay And when Robert gets to the police station, he chastises the cops for arresting Hanson and said Nellie is being ridiculous. Even though the guy admitted to following her. He's like, that's not what's going on. This situation seems like a chaotic decision.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yeah. The next day in court, the judge said Hanson had done nothing wrong by just following her. Quote, what do you expect of me? He asked Nellie, laughing. That is fucking. As someone who has been stalked, I'll tell you. Yeah, the legal system is not.
Starting point is 00:47:41 The legal system's like, well, what happened after? They scared the fucking shit out of you? Okay, so they skinned your cat then what okay, so they're sending pictures of a place they shouldn't know you live This is disturbing to you Nelly said she wanted protection and Said a different man had been following her for days with one even trying to get into her room while she was sleeping and the judge dismissed her concerns and let Hanson walk free.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Wow. Fucking crazy. Nothing changes. So Robert publicly said he didn't hire anyone because the story's out in the press now. So Robert's like, I did not. He just said he asked Hanson to see where she was eating, quote, I have a right to know where my wife takes her dinner. So that's all he wanted to know, just where she's eating.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Like again, these guys are not prepped for follow ups. No, they're not at all. Because you could be like, I thought you was cheating on me. I fucked up. I want to know her suppers. Is that so wrong? You know what a woman eats? Oh, my Lord. He said Hansa was and it was not a detective quote.
Starting point is 00:48:59 He rattled around in a cab and got caught like a mutton head. That is also crazy, because what the fuck? That's nobody's issue is like, boy, you didn't hire the right stalker. It's like, why were you doing that? I hired some yuck yuck. This guy didn't know what he was doing. He was shit at it. So what's the big deal?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Oh, let me tell you. My one regret is that I hired an income poop So reporter goes to Robert and Nellie's mansion Now, I don't know what how Robert must have just invited him in to talk to him Because the reporter watches Robert and Nellie get into a serious argument because Robert told the reporter that he had never had Nellie followed. And she was like, Hanson said he did it in the police station and in court.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Oh, you're making stuff up. I know. Hanson was a ghost. So while Nellie is furious and arguing with him, Robert then just pretend she's not there and keeps talking to the reporter. Man. What the fuck is happening in this house, in this relationship? Meanwhile, the brothers like, you know, you get anyone is you know, Sonic. She's like, this is good. And then they just go on with their marriage.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I mean, let's not forget there's also a monkey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's still a monkey. You'll have to excuse her. She doesn't know what she's talking about. You had me follow. Genitonic anyone?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ah, ah, ah, ah! So, three years later. Quite a cut to. It is proven in court that Robert was having her followed by Hanson and a private detective. The detective, the reason it went to court is the detective sued Robert because Robert had not paid him for following Nelly.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Dude, that is such a Trump thing where it's like, buddy, just pay them and then it's so easy. So Robert now draws up his will and he was giving $10,000 to each niece he had and another woman Nellie did not know, so he just randomly gave $10,000 to a lady, and then just $300 to Nellie. So that's not great. So she realizes she needs to take care, like she had always thought, she needs to take care of herself.
Starting point is 00:51:44 She needs to handle her. And again, she goes back to work for the world. One of her first assignments was covering the National Women's Suffrage Convention in DC, and there Robert Heider, private detective, to follow her. What does she look like? She's a woman! You can't miss her!
Starting point is 00:52:02 Jesus Christ. She'll be the one walking around like she can do whatever. She's a woman who believes she's better than a man. You'll be bound to see her. So she writes an article and it makes me just feel like they're there at the suffragette convention and she noted it's mostly middle-aged white ladies. It's a Karen situation. There's just one black woman there. What do you mean? So when I think the suffragette, obviously, you mean this is just like this version of
Starting point is 00:52:38 it is a little like affluent or privileged or what? Yes. Okay. like well this is a little privileged or what okay yes okay so it's a little different from the the original suffragettes were very I mean they were no they're mostly rich ladies really oh interesting I have to make two phone calls okay about that oh it's weird she, she, she goes after the suffragettes for their lack of fashion sense thinking that dressing well was sort of the key to men listening to you. She interviewed Susan B. Anthony and that she was written so well that it was
Starting point is 00:53:28 carried in the news section, which is very unusual for an article written by a female reporter, especially one about the women's suffrage movement. So Robert's health starts to fail and he and Nellie go to Europe in search of a cure as everybody does. At this time. It's the it's the water cure thing. So she here. So she really must have liked him obviously. She had to have I mean, she stayed married. Although, yeah, she must have she must have liked the guy. Like, you're going to your I mean, if you're like not into if you're not into this guy, you're like, Yeah, no must have. She must have liked the guy. Like she must have. You're going to Europe.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I mean, if you're like not into it, if you're not into this guy, you're like, yeah, no, there's nothing in Europe. You should probably just lay in that bed. Here, let me put some ice on you. Yeah. Despite him being so crazy, he has her followed. Yeah. And leaving her $300 in the will.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah. So she cares for him as he slowly, his health slowly deteriorates. And then he redos his will. And now he leaves his entire state to Nellie and also he leaves her the iron clad manufacturing company and now she would be able to kick his drunk brother out. Oh wait. Robert does. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Wait, wait, wait. Let me pitch you on what the things I could help with around the house. Okay. Uh huh. Someone has thrown up, someone puked on what the things I could help with around the house. Okay. Someone has thrown up, someone puked on all the curtains. Okay. We should get that out. Someone should piss that off. Yeah, it was you.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Someone could piss off some of those puke scrapings. No, we don't need people to piss it off. It just needs to be thrown out. I think you're going to need a person to throw a lot of the logs around the house. Also, I noticed there's an abundance of alcohol that I don't know where we'll be able to get rid of it. I propose that I can have an internship here drinking the booze.
Starting point is 00:55:16 And I'll drink the booze for the remainder of your stay. And I think that we would make a dynamite scene, okay? So we'll do that. And yeah, I think it make a dynamite scene. Okay so we do that and Yeah, it's a good idea. So let's go that's a fellow bit and we make sure that the others is pretty good to go Also make a our maker a break Someone's got to come up with a game show to play around this place and I got one. I've ever created a game show No, no, yeah, I can't even want to hear what the idea is. Nope. Come on. Let's see what it is. Nope. Come on. I think we should hear this guy out.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Let's hear what the idea is. I agree. We should hear what the idea is for this guy. You ready? Huh? Okay. The game show is called piss on piss the puke off the curtain go away Get the fuck out Now we're gonna follow my story for a little while Very angry So He He also put it as well, like he noted, he was especially noted, like the rest of the family shouldn't get anything. Like he was like, very clear.
Starting point is 00:56:33 So then nobody very clear. So, um, he leaves his lawyer in charge of the iron clad company. So she owns it, but he's the lawyer is going to run it. And they go, when they went to Europe, he leaves them in charge. Sorry. And then now they come back from Europe, right? And he writes them right before they're going to get on the ship. So yeah, he's like, so listen, um, the, uh, a company is sort of a hundred thousand dollars in debt now. And if you come back, all these creditors are going to demand payment immediately, which would lead to the factory being closed. So you guys shouldn't come back. Um, but then, so they, still were like, OK, I guess we're not going to go back.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And then Nellie's sister dies. And she's so distraught. Hold on. Hold on. Who's in Europe? Her and Robert. Yeah. But Robert is dead. No, no, not dead yet. Oh, he's just changed the will. OK, gotcha, gotcha. OK.
Starting point is 00:57:42 So. But Nellie comes when her sister dies, she she comes back. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. But Nellie comes, when her sister dies, she comes back. So I guess it was tradition for allowing local women, everyone come pay their respects, but Nellie hated these other women, so she did let them come, which was a tradition, so then it caused a big brouhaha. And so then Nellie took out a section of so then it caused a big brouhaha. And so then Nellie took out a section of the paper asking them all to just leave her alone. Oh my God. A fuck off ad.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Dear bitches. Leave me alone. And then another paper accused Nellie of burning all of her sister's possessions in a funeral pyre and also killing her sister's dog and horse, which is all just made up. That order is just completely wrong. You lead with the murder of the horse and dog. You totally do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Someone burned all of her dresses. Also two animals have been burned. What the fuck? So Nellie demands her attraction and they just print one. They're like, yeah, all right. Page eight. Then, so they had a property in upstate New York and that burns down. Things are not going great.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And it's obviously arson because there are kerosene cans everywhere. It's a sign. Yeah. Nellie now started putting her life back together and Robert lets her fire the guy who'd been following her, the handsome guy. She's like, yeah, you can. Plus, I think he was taking care of the upstate place, so it's gone.
Starting point is 00:59:30 He's in that bush. Can I go fire him? Hello. Then she fired the people who'd been mismanaging Ironclad. And she invites her mother, brother, brothers, their wives, and children to stay with her and Robert in their newly re-decorated mansion. So in March of 1904, Robert finally dies of heart disease.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And doctors said, I mean, obviously, you know this, but the heart disease was caused by getting hit by a horse. Yep. 100%. And Nellie... What did they... I'm surprised they were that advanced because I felt like we didn't have that breakthrough until like the 80s. So Nellie throws herself into the business.
Starting point is 01:00:17 You have hoof heart. You got hit... Well, I know he was sick before, but once that horse ran him over, then the heart just goes. The heart doesn't recover from a horse. Hick. No, no never does. Nope. Never seen it. Nope You have so he's Have you been getting kicked by horses lately? Oh, yeah, of course I run over by one bad for you. Yeah, don't do that So she dives into the business. She's spending 12 hours a day at the business.
Starting point is 01:00:48 She learns how to operate every single machine in the business. She gets 25 patents for new machines or improvements in her name. And she modernizes the factory and profits are taken off. And she starts a social welfare program for employees. She thinks it's the employer's job who should help workers' lives. You work for me, so I'll take care of you. We just knew so little back then. It's so funny.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It's just the weirdest way that society evolved properly. She builds them a recreation center with a gym, there's showers, there's ping pong, there's a pool hall, bowling alley, there's a big library for them to go read in. What the fuck? She builds a hospital on site. All right, everybody, let's take a bowling break. She builds a hospital on site. She pays for house calls from doctors.
Starting point is 01:01:41 At Christmas, she gives them each all the ingredients to cook a meal. Like she's taking care of her all over in place. So not the recipe, the actual stuff. Here's your bonus. Here's how you make eggnog. There's that. Okay. So she works very closely with Edward Gilman, who Robert had hired to replace the idiot guy who fucked up. So she trusts Gilman and he then embezzles $50,000 because he had lost a lot of money in Wall Street and she forgives him and she lets him stay on as general manager. God damn. This may be a little too forgiving at this point. And she forgives him and she lets him stay on as general manager. God damn.
Starting point is 01:02:26 This may be a little too forgiving at this point. Yeah. She's like, I don't understand. Financial stuff is just beyond me, so I need someone to help me. But then he takes out a $60,000 loan and the business has nothing to show for it. Like, there's just no reason has nothing to show for it. There's just no reason for him to take out the loan. So she now hires an accounting firm and they, the accounting firm is like, there's nothing
Starting point is 01:02:52 wrong. This is all going fine. And Gelman Teltenelli, she now owes every single guy in the finance department an apology for bringing in an outside firm to look at the business. Like you've offended us. The guy who embezzled maybe $110,000. My feelings are hurt. So she, um, so that guy then comes down with stomach cancer and Nellie just takes care of them.
Starting point is 01:03:23 The Gilead. Yeah. She hardly sleeps. She just totally cares for this guy. And she's running, and she's also running the company. So the doctor says his condition's getting worse. And the doctor says it's something mental. Like he has some sort of secret that's eating away at him. That's what's killing him.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Has he's got a horse? Has a horse kicked him? No, no, this is your No, it's his tum tums. Yeah, but the whole the course kick can affect so many parts Yeah, but not this the stomachs more do you think they chase you? I think he's has he been pig chased We don't know. He's not talking about pigs. God, is that real Riddle? Okay, so he, all right, so that's amazing for a doctor to say that to. He's got a secret lodged in his guts. So Nellie tells Gilman, she's like, there's nothing you could ever say that would stop
Starting point is 01:04:30 me from being your friend. I killed your sister. And when she said that, he would turn his head to the wall and saw uncork this. So you're fine, right? So there's nothing bad. Nothing to tell you, though. Yeah, but I'm just saying, if you feel like you have to let something out. I'm living so much bullshit.
Starting point is 01:04:57 What? Tell me what's... To not hurt those who help. Tell me. Just tell me what. Huh? Just, well, go ahead and let it out. I'm good, let whatever say.
Starting point is 01:05:07 There's nothing to say. Will you keep turning your head and No, there's nothing to say. sobbing loudly at the wall. No, no, God no, I'm fine. Okay. I can't tell her the truth. Cause I'm a liar.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And I've always lied. You just said that. It's going to kill me. What's up? No, nothing. I'm fine. Another employer, I'm sorry, another employee goes to her and says, you need to have another accountant look at the books.
Starting point is 01:05:42 But she doesn't want to upset Gilman. She's like, look, he's already dying from my first first, the reason I had accountants look into it. Look, I audited it once and he's almost died. Oh man. So she's just some, this is going to be a whole fucking thing. So he dies. And then when when he dies she gets $40,000 worth of notes that he had forged in her name and then he had stolen another $65,000 before he died and just sent it to his brother and his previous personal assistant told Nellie, Gilman had been robbing her quote right and left and paying off his St. Louis brothers'
Starting point is 01:06:28 debts with your money. Oh my God. Oy, oy, oy. So, Nelly is like, well look, $100,000 isn't all that much in the grand scheme of things, and that he planned to pay it back. He was going to pay it back. He just died before he could. That's three million dollars today.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Fuck. Fuck. It was then found that Charles Katchia, head of Ironclad's finance department, was also stealing money and forging checks. He and several others were now arrested, and they confessed. Nellie's now angry that she allowed all this to happen.
Starting point is 01:07:07 All the men plead not guilty and at trial, it was revealed those forged checks were worth 1.6 million. About 50 million today. Wow. The judge is like, I don't see anything wrong with this. Yeah, it seems fine. Seems fine. You're just a very little paranoid woman.
Starting point is 01:07:25 This would be wrong if you were a man. To a man, this is a crime. Nellie blames the bank. She's like, you guys were cashing forged fucking checks and tries to hold the banks accountable. That doesn't apply. That doesn't apply. That doesn't matter. Yeah, the case goes on for years. She in court became very argumentative and was only contempt a bunch. She was charged thousands of court fines and in the end, none of the men were convicted. Man, oh man.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And she's getting fined for getting screwed Shit now the creditors just want their money They don't give a shit who did what right on the first day of the trial eight creditors had processed servers waiting at the courthouse to serve her with summons Human wall of friends kept them away from Nellie But one climbed the opposite building, crept onto a window ledge, and then served her by throwing the papers at her through an open window. That is, I don't believe that's legally how it's done.
Starting point is 01:08:38 It is. If you could just throw the papers. Yeah, you just have to say you're served and get it near him. I think I think you I had to serve on behalf of my brother once and you had to get that person to confirm who they were. Not that it fucking matters. That may be, you know, that's California, but also that may be in the now. But in the past, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:59 And also, she's a public figure. So maybe I don't know. But yeah, true. By the way, if you want to have a good time, serve somebody who's screwed over a family member. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a rush. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah, I bet. So her creditors get ironclad the company through involuntary bankruptcy. And in April 1913, the business was taken away. Nellie is now 49 years old. She's now been called a failure. Look, women tried and women failed. I mean, dudes just completely. Robbed her blind.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Robbed her blind. And the dudes who were supposed to be the wall of accountability robbed her blind. Yeah. And the legal system screwed her over and people like, sorry lady. I mean, she thought something was wrong. She brought in an outside accounting firm and then they clearly just took money and walked away. Yes. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:07 After years of growing the business successfully as one of the only female industrialists of the time, she heard men saying, quote, That's what comes from letting a woman ruin things, run things. Let a woman run things. She ruins things. It's just one. It's just one vowel difference. By the way, trying to take, trying to like take care of people and do all these things and take care of the guy who robbed you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Now, Nellie is charged with obstructing justice for not producing materials during the trial. My fucking God, dude. Hey, there's no way this is not related to her being an uppity broad. There's no fucking way. There's no way this isn't partially about her breaking into newsrooms and changing the way things work. There's no fucking way. That is so crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:11:07 She's being pursued by creditors still, so she flees to Europe. She's in a hotel in Vienna and she becomes friends with people there, people in high places. She, uh, the U S assistant secretary of war, uh, Ostro, uh, Ostro Hungarian military officials, even a princess. She's just meeting and networking and getting to know people. And she then decides that she wants to report from the front lines in world war one. This, this is a wild life.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Yeah, it's fucking crazy. How does that movie? I mean, because they were like, this can't be 90 pages. We can't get this down to 115. Are you crazy? There's a miniseries. So. She sets it up with the Evening Journal, and that's where the her articles will be published. And the U.S. ambassador to Austria said he'd help her get to the fighting.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But he implored her to promise to remain quote, an advocate for truth, an apostle of justice. And last but not least, never forget that you are an American. This guy. So her war reporting is great. It's engaging. She tells the human side of war. She wrote of the suffering of soldiers and she wrote of seeing one guy was jaw blown off. I don't, I don't, I'm sorry. I don't love that. No, thank you. How are prophets? She wrote about a collar, a ravaging all soldiers. And she wrote up her own experiences during the time. Biographer Brooke Krueger called some of her reporting, quote, brave, brazen, a little whiny and a lot narcissistic. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:12:58 She complained a lot about sanitary issues in the cafes that she had to eat in while traveling during the World War I mean, what like maybe strange while you're dealing with the World War, but also probably so valid. Yeah. You know? Yeah. There's a fingernail in my sugar cube. She wrote about having to swap her heavy fur coat for a woolen cape on her way to the front, grumbling
Starting point is 01:13:26 that quote, the burden was martyrdom. Oh my no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. While you have like a 16 year old caked in his best friend's blood all over his face, I'll tell you a cape just won't do. Oh, she was, uh, she was in the line of danger a lot. She had several shells explode just a little ways from her, just feet from her. Another time she was arrested by Austrian officials who accused her of being a British spy. Um, she had left at that time, she left her papers on the train and they brought a man to interpreter and the guy they bring to interpret is just he sees her and he's like starstruck when he realizes that it's Nellie Bly. And he hugs her and he's jumping up and down and he's chanting Nellie Bly, Nellie Bly, Nellie Bly. That's the interpreter ever.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Like like the interrogators like that's not great. ever like like the interrogators like that's not great. All right. That's the main impartial interpreter. Let's come on now. We're not supposed to be a fan of these people. OK. He told her that he tells the guards who she is and people of lower classes really love her, even though we're getting this narcissistic thing, she still did work on their behalf. Yeah, it was very beneficial. She develops a love for Austria while she's in Austria. She doesn't like the English.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Which I get. Totally get this. I don't love it. Where she's pretty spot on. Okay, enough. She nails the English thing. She now stop she runs She once wrote quote they chill one's blood with propulsion, right? That's an apt description of it was Hey mom So she was happy to support the central powers Even when the US did someone say powers, even when the US joined the war. Did someone say powers, baby? No, god damn it.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Ah, I'll behave. So she's supporting the enemy, basically. Right. She couldn't send back any more articles home because she's now considered an enemy alien, but because she loved Austria so much, she was not put into internment camps like other Americans were. So the war ends and she goes back to New York and she's immediately taken into custody on that previous charge of obstruction of justice.
Starting point is 01:16:03 From her trial where she got screwed financially and she pleaded not guilty she Then goes to stay with her mother Right. So the mother that she supported and took care of all these years and really helped out. You set me up for something here She's no longer welcome god damn Because of arguments over money God damn. Because of arguments over money. Nellie is now penniless.
Starting point is 01:16:27 She has no fucking money. That is crazy. And her mom had signed over assets Nellie. So she put assets in her mom's name before she fled. Oh no. And her mom signed them over to her brother Albert. And Albert's apparently a dick. And Nellie says her mom is under the evil influence of her drunken brother.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And she'd always been very close with her mom. Like her mom's like 90 years old now. She's been supporting her forever. Quote, I struggled all my life to gain comfort and independence from my mother. And now that my mother desserts and crushes me and now that my mother desserts and crushes me. So Nellie and her other brother, Harry, bring charges against Albert for stealing. And Albert charges Nellie with malicious mischief, saying
Starting point is 01:17:19 she had destroyed a cram drawing of him by cutting half of the face off. Well, I mean, so they both have legitimate gripes. Like, I guess, honestly, that's kind of a I'm not sure whose side I'm on. Yeah, both compelling arguments. It's fucked up. He had a crayon drawing ripped and yeah, she lost everything. So you can't just destroy a crayon drawing and think you can walk away. No, I mean I that's how they need to be You need to be held accountable for crime. Yeah, that's how they got Capone in the end. Yeah, that's right. Yeah Their mom testifies against Nellie in court Jesus Christ Neither side wins. It's just like a draw and her mom and her judge is amazing, too. I call it a tie It's just like a draw and her mom and her. Judge is amazing, too.
Starting point is 01:18:03 I call it a tie. What I want him to take all your money. On the other hand, you ripped up a grand picture. I'd say you both are at fault and it's a draw. Nelly never reconciled with her mother. So she needs work. And the evening journal evening New York Evening Journal hires her, though half the
Starting point is 01:18:29 salary of what she'd made three decades ago. Wow. Her emotional style, the way she has she's putting empathy and everything the way she's emotion in her stories, and it's no longer popular. It's like it's, it was a fad, it's gone. Journalists are now expected to be very accurate and objective and she's also not very warmly received in the newsroom, only the editor friend who hired her likes her, everyone else is just kind of like,
Starting point is 01:19:00 oh, this fucking, this one, the traitor. She immediately, however however makes the front page because she does a jack Dempsey interview she starts writing an advice column starting out by telling a forelet mother not to give up her baby and asking a woman who caught her husband cheating if that wasn't her fault in some way. Had she been nagging him? Don't you think you failed somewhere? People loved it. People loved it.
Starting point is 01:19:31 It's a great time. This is great. Cheating! What a good time for cheating. You're just like, well, you should probably fuck me better and your suit was pulling. You're right.
Starting point is 01:19:42 I did mess up. By the way, whatever got bad at Dave Grohl for cheating, that was so, like, I was watching the world scream and I'm like, he's a rock star. That's literally like saying, why are you a rock star? Like, that's literally what they all do. They're rock stars. It was just, we, you know, the problem is when you hold,
Starting point is 01:20:00 when you seem very decent. Yeah, I guess so. And you do the indecent, It's, you know, I think I know but we're running out of heroes We're so low on heroes We just like whatever we have. It's just like a thimble of water in the desert. We just we need it so bad So good that it's just like what happened with milaney like everyone was like jesus fuck it was like what you build You don't know these people. Yeah, you. So I can't believe this coke addict is cheating
Starting point is 01:20:31 on his wife. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, um, people are just so many people are writing letters. Um, they're coming to the hotel that she's living in, in the lobby and asking for advice for a job for her to tell her story. How do you contact someone who you need to give them an advice question, but they won't answer the door when you knock on it? She always did it wherever she could to help anyone who asked unless the person had just even the slightest English accent. Her hatred of the English is so good.
Starting point is 01:21:12 You don't know what it's like, you Irish motherfucker! I've got a bit of a question for you. I recently found myself in what I'd call a conundrum. Get out, you fucking animal. All right, fine. She got a reputation for sharing stories about orphans and finding them a home. So again, this is orphan train time, right?
Starting point is 01:21:38 She continued to advocate for kids, even writing about the importance of using birth control to stop unwanted children, which I'm sure is a big deal at the time. It's going to be again. Some kids she even cared for until they could be adopted. But her work with kids seemed to regress her view on working women. And she now said, women with children should never work outside of the home unless there's a dire financial need. Quote, no home can be a home when the wife and mother works outside.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Wow. But look, her work was already done. Like she broke down door. I firmly believe that people who break down doors, people who sort of start this path that everyone else falls, I think society often breaks them and makes them and make, and turns them into something else. You know, she probably just, the, that might be the reason she just married the dude and like stop writing because she was just fucking done with the attacks bullshit
Starting point is 01:22:48 Who knows? I do. Yeah, you do you're wrong She advocated for laws forbidding women with children from working unless their husbands had left them or were dead Better health began to decline in the 1920 and on Januaryth, 1922 Nellie Boyd died in hospital at 57 years old from pneumonia. Fucking A, so young. Yeah, but man, what a fucking life. Crazy to fit all that in 57 goddamn years.
Starting point is 01:23:17 That is crazy. Fucking wild. I mean, there are so many back and forths in that. Yeah. Yeah, it's really fucking crazy how many back and forths in that. Yeah. Yeah, it's really fucking crazy how many back and forths are. My only question is, has a had a horse kicked her recently in the immune system? We're still trying to find that out.
Starting point is 01:23:38 You know what I mean? It's hard. It's hard to know. What kicked her? Something had to have kicked her. What? What kicked this fine woman? Something kicked her.
Starting point is 01:23:52 She was so... That is quite a story. Sources. Nellie Bly, Daredevil Reporter, Feminist by Brooke Kroeger Nellie Bly, Around the World in 72 Days and Other Writings by Nellie Bly edited by Jean Marie Alous 80 Days, Nellie Bly Around the World in 72 Days and Other Writings by Nellie Bly, edited by Jean Marie Alous. 80 Days, Nellie Bly and Elizabeth Bisland's History Making Race Around the World by Matthew Goodman,
Starting point is 01:24:12 and sensational The Hidden Histories of America's Girl Stunt Reporters by Kim Todd, and research was done by Brittany Cohen Brown. There you go. All right. Gobble gobble. So I travel a lot. I mean a lot. Perhaps too much to some of you, but that's kind of my gig, right? So I'm out there. I'm living out of suitcases or suitcase sometimes if I bring the big boy and I want all the comforts of home. That's why I stay at an Airbnb whenever possible. Recently I had some gigs in Fort Collins, Colorado and I was with my friends and we were shooting some stuff and before we got to the gigs we were like,
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