The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 673 - H.L. Hunt - Part Three

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine very rich guy H.L. Hunt. Part three of three.  SOURCES TOUR DATES OFFICIAL MERCH     Hims  Rocketmoney  Squarespace  Helix Sleep

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You can get tickets at dolloppodcast.com slash tour. You're listening to the. Well, that was rude. You're listening to the. Well, that was rude. You're listening to the dollop. This is an American history podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to my best friend, Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about a rude boy. Rude boy.

Not that that's a compliment. Not that kind. It's an actual rude boy. Rude boy. That's a compliment. Not that kind. An actual rude person. Well, you said it wrong. I didn't say it wrong. Fool. It's just a different way of saying it. Foolish boy.

For the people who complain. Yeah, you're pouring liquid death into a fucking. That's for that one woman who said that it was really hard to focus when we take sips of things. Yeah, she didn't like that. She didn't like that. But let's remind her that we're on three parts back to back. Yes. So there's going to be some sips. Some people are going to get hurt.

Some people have to get sipped. Some people are going to get fucking hurt. What do you mean? That's what we're talking about. That's what you're saying. You're saying, look, the three-parter, so some people are going to get hurt. I didn't say that. Yeah, you basically said she's got to deal with it. She's going to get hurt. Well, I don't want to hurt her.

That's what you're doing. No, no. Cause her pain. No, no, no, no, no. That poor girl's dying. The woman from that? Yeah, the sounds, they kill her. She says, OK, isn't she? No, she dies.

Oh, man, it is amazing. I love the show, but you guys are breathing a lot. A lot of breathing. Gareth, the dollop's going to be on tour. Are you aware of that? I'm actually unavailable. I'm doing a whole new thing. Oh, fuck me. God damn it. Seriously? I wrote a musical. It's called The Birth of Gareth. It's going to be on tour this March, which this is probably in March now.

The dates are coming up soon. Tempe, Arizona, starting on March 16th. And then we go to Albuquerque the next day and that'll be two shows. The first show sold out. The second show is like a best of show. So we're going to go through, you're going to bring up a script that's like a classic script that people really like and we're going to do it again. And I guarantee you, I won't remember shit. I won't either. And you probably won't remember much either.

Are you going to refresh it at all? Part of you was saying you might refresh it. I might if I have time. Yeah. If not, you'll just be like, wait, what? Yeah. Okay. And then we'll go to Oklahoma City, brick town comedy club, and then, uh, Tulsa brick town comedy club, and then Dallas, the Granada theater, and then Houston house of blues, and then Austin cap city comedy club. And then in June we got on tour again, the Sacramento punchline on June 3rd, Egyptian theater and Boise on June 4th, Bing Crosby Theater in Spokane on June 5th, Neptune Theater, Seattle, June 6th, Aladdin Theater, Portland, June 7th,

Tower Theater, Bend, Oregon, June 8th, and the Palace of Fine Arts, San Francisco, June 10th. Tickets at LA LA tickets at podcast. It's all a podcast.com at LA. Dala. Yeah, I don't know what that was. What was I going to say? LA what? Well, you're asking the wrong guy. I don't live in that head. I mean, you try to figure it out.

The only thing I can think of that my brain was going back to is the LA podcast festival. What else could it be? I'm imagine what are you bringing it back and not telling me? Am I in some kind of time warp? Are you, are you thinking about bringing it back? No, my brain is time traveling. Whoa, dude. That would be odd. That's how this show ends. Every day you wake up, you shout the date. Oh, Christ. 1952. Oh Christ. 1952. HL is now getting in with anti-commies McCarthy and all those types. The good people. It ages well. He is disappointed in Hasse's condition. As we all are. Hasse of course had a lobotomy and that for some reason didn't go well.

He never gave up on Hasse going back to normal. He would always answer, quote, he's getting better when people asked about. Part of me goes, that's like a humanizing quality, but part of me wonders if that's just because he wanted more oil speculating or part of me wonders if he just holds onto a lot of guilt because he had this lobotomy. It's not that one. Yeah. No way.

Is it that one? Maybe it's a shortcoming because it came from him. Well, yeah. So if he's a narcissist, an extension of him can't be faulty. Yeah, right. Right? So it's got to be able to be fixed. Yeah. Well, cool. All right. There we go. There's that gone and gone. He'd even bring

Hasse into the office sometimes, but Hasse would only stare into the distance and sometimes think out loud for a sentence or two saying things like, sometimes they let me make my own decisions. Oh my God. Lobotomies are so dark. It's so bad. Fuck. All right. Well, Hassy, I think that was another one of those inside thoughts. Hassy wants sex now.

Oh, well, that's why we've got a crew of mates. We're at home, Hassy. Come on now. We're at the office. Let's keep it. Now! Let's keep it. Now! Let's keep everything a-

Coming out! Taking it out! Hassy! Hassy! Hassy! Put your thing away! Here it goes. Hassy, put your thing away!

Here it goes. Let him do it on the plant. Jesus Christ. All right. And here's the good news, the ball is improving. So he's still not getting better. Even after HL paid to fly out an astrologer who he was sure would be the key to fixing his son. So I know what the problem is.

It lives in the stars. I know you removed part of the frontal cortex, but I have a way of charting what he's after. You said that it was because his retrograde planet was in Mercury? And a lot of it has to do with Cassiopeia. What? So what we're going to do is we're going to make a star map for him.

And that'll be something he can put on his wall. And Hathi, that'll be great he can put on his wall and Hathy, that'll be great for you to look at and study. Fuck you. Okay. That'll change once we're able to put it. That's part of the payment. That's part of the payment. I don't know if I understood that part of it. He has to now. Once he says it, he has to.

Okay. I really, I'm married. This is a job for me. I've done that. I'm fucked around so many. Marriage doesn't matter. You fuck whoever you want. Oh, this room is comfy. I'm a astrologer. So, the astrologer doesn't work, andL. decides he needs a new Hasse. And bunkers too. And bunkers an idiot. That sounds a loss. Yeah, bunkers a dweeb.

He's chubby too, which obviously takes better the running for anything. Lamar and Herbert are smart young men, but they're not hassy. Even the handsome young boy, Ruth Ray, had given birth to who wasn't a total match. What Achill needed was an exact replica of his son, who physically resembled him most, the genius son that he put all his hopes into, even though he neglected him for years and years.

He wanted science to help him create a replica of Hasse. Shut the fuck up. He's getting shit done. Are we at the craziest part? I mean... Yeah. And where... I mean, this guy had 15 kids.

He's like, man, I got to go to a beaker. And so I was wondering if you could make another Hasse. Siemens not an issue. Gareth, where were at this time, where were scientists known for the research on creating genetically perfect human specimens? Germany. Oh, dear. for the research on creating genetically perfect human specimens. Germany! Oh, oh dear. So HL sends an assistance to Germany.

We've created an extra HASSI for you. We actually came up with three. You pick. We kill the other two. We have made 4,500 HASSIs in... Well, read the document. I said one. In Brazil. No, I said one. They have taken the country? What the fuck? I just said make one of them. What are you talking about?

It says this is the sister to Germany. She has instructions or he has instructions to offer one million dollars to a beautiful woman with a high IQ who would agree to either be artificially inseminated with his or the old fashioned way or has he sperm. Oh, he wants has he couldn't decide which so he's going to be like, all right, boy. Now here's this might sound strange, Hasse, but I need you to whack off into this cup here. But Hasse's mom is, uh, isn't that why I'd, uh, yeah.

So why and light is not, we already know she's like not even that attractive is what. So oh yeah. Well, well look, he's punching up. Yeah. Okay. He wants a punch up. He wants a reboot. Okay.

So now go find a real hot woman. Uh, when the assistant wasn't able to find a woman who met all of his qualifications, HL told them to keep an eye out closer to home. He wanted this so much, he said that he'd even quote, settle for a lady with brown eyes. He never did find the perfect match. What the fuck? The approach of that must be the approach of that. I shot this thing the other day where it was like stupid on the street stuff.

It's like approaching people for dumb shit is so awkward. Approaching with the idea of just like, excuse me, ma'am. was like stupid on the street stuff. It's like approaching people for dumb shit is so awkward. Approaching with the idea of just like, uh, yeah, excuse me, ma'am. Sorry to stop you. I know you're going shopping right now. Um, how are you gross? Are you able to buy all of your groceries? Are you ever in need of, it's a hard time. So I work for a man whose son is named Hasee.

You're very beautiful and you have big brown eyes. So we were looking to inseminate you artificially or the old fashioned, oh, sorry. I'm not, no, what, no. No what? No. No what? No, I don't want that.

Okay. Can I finish the pitch before you become an awful person? So far the attitude is a big knock against you for this project. Do you like a million dollars? Let me start with this. Would you like a million dollars? Yes. Can an old guy finish inside of you or maybe his son can?

No. Can you wear a nurse's outfit? We provide. No. And then it gets inside you? No. And then it gets inside you? No. Will you see a baby to term if, if we decide that your IQ is past the bar of what we're after?

No. Are your eyes naturally brown? Yes. Can we please have one of a father or a son or both finish in you or one old fashioned way or we can put it in artificially. We can artificially, ma'am, we can put it in artificially. We can artificially ma'am, we can put it in you without either one of their foreskins entering you.

No, why would the foreskin know what part of the penis is the foreskin then that the meat us. Well, why don't you meet us in the middle and just say yes to a deal like this? I'm going to say me to me again. Why? I don't give a shit what character in. I'm still a character. No, you're not. It is it is a meatus. You're literally never say me to say me to some of this podcast. Yes, I am. I'll say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to say me to

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either you or your son Seaman in a stranger as well at the same time You're also fighting the battle against communism. The Reds are coming at the same time You're also fighting the battle of the Jews poisoning the food Like that's a lot of a lot of stuff and at the same time you're an oilman There's a lot of stuff you got to do but it's a lot means a lot of plates to spin So he would have his own food grown on his land and mostly just ate raw vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and honey.

He decided to share his idea of clean food with other Americans and farm the HLH products. It would sell many different foods. But the label is just like, no Jews touched it. I wonder if this is a tomato. Ooh. He sold many different foods, but what H.O. was most excited about was his gastro magic.

It's also very funny that you say that about Hans tomatoes, because as I told you the other night, someone close to us had a very bad reaction after eating a can of tomatoes. Yeah. He really did. I mean, on a level that was shocking. So gastro magic was a blend of vitamins and antacid and HL swore by it and even erected a huge billboard for gastro magic on his front lawn. What? Why there?

Good old free Wow. Okay. But then neighbors complained and the city made him take it down. Yeah. Well, that you do you realize how obnoxious a billboard has to be if you're going after a robber Baron? I mean, like to go to a robber Baron to be like, buddy, that billboard sucks. Yeah. I know you've bought everything around here, but please.

He made his employees put Gastro Magic bumper stickers on their cars and paid for radio spots where he read out the lines, quote, hello, I am H.L. Hunt, the world's richest man. And these are Gastro Magic, which I make. So they must be good. Try some. That's right, Gastro Magic, available anywhere

you get delicious produce. Gastro Magic has not been touched by or influenced by a Jew. Gastro magic, you will not be poisoned and your son will not become schizophrenic because he ate it. Gastro magic. A little gastro magic, your life won't be tragic. Uh, so now it was, it was hunts tomato sauce was made by, uh, in 1888 in Sebastopol by the hunt brothers. Okay.

Different. Yeah. Thank God. Mike and Mark. Um, but I love the idea that he's just selling it by being like, I'm rich, so it's gotta be good. Hey, how about if you just hear it is it's just like people when people like go on the macrobiotic diet.

Cool. HL also began touting the benefits of an odd exercise he created called creeping. So I recommend everyone creep. So where you stalk a woman, just keep fucking women while you're married and then endlessly see them. It was basically crawling around on the ground like a baby. Quote, I'm a crank about creeping, H.O. would say, and Gleefully once creeped for startled journalist around his dining room table while yelling Yahoo

Wait you're down on your hands and he's now do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it real quick. Like for journalists, like I got one flash goes off 30 seconds into it. Oh, fuck. What the fuck. This is also the problem is that like this is Musk because it's when the rich go oh no it's pretty straightforward you just do

this and that like makes you really help. It's like dude you're like you have no actual medical insights you've just come up with your stupid shit and you're surrounded by yes men and no one has told you you're an idiot. No one tells you no anymore. No one goes shut up. That's dumb. Yeah. Oh, 19. Let's read it again. Oh yes, I agree. Creeping, which he basically crawling around on the floor like a baby. I'm a crank about creeping, H.O. would say and gleefully once creeped for a startled journalist around his dining table while yelling Yahoo. It's just so insane.

That has to be on film. So what year are we in? We're in what like it's the 50s. Oh, but Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. I mean, the reason I found out about this guy was because I just came across a photo of him doing yoga. And it was like the richest guy in the world is like doing yoga or something. I was just like, what the fuck is happening? Well, that is so much more normal than what you're talking about.

But it's just not something you see. No. Well, that if I saw that, I'd be like, oh, cool. Well, I was the guy who's like into Eastern medicine, oh cool. Well, I was just like, I was like into Eastern medicine and yeah, but you know, a spiritualist, you'd hope so. But no, but no, it's that he was just like, oh, fuck, that's awesome. In 1955, tragedy struck the hunts when Lida suffered a massive stroke. HL chartered a private plane to fly the unconscious Linda to the famous Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, but they could not save her. Two years after Lida was buried, HL married Ruth Ray.

So I like that he's capping himself at two. Their children together were officially said to be Ruth's from another relationship who HL was happy to adopt. Oh, so they just wouldn't even admit that. Yeah. Yeah. Many took this as HL being incredibly kind by adopting these kids. He was showing the love he had for Ruth.

Do you think he did this because it made him look good or because obviously he's like, I don't want to admit that I fucking had both. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't until years later that it came out that Ruth kids were, in fact, HL's biological children. Yahoo! With his beautiful new wife at his side,

HL's facts farm continued to grow. He held parties for right-wing politicians and famous anti-communist Hollywood stars, like John Wayne and Pat Boone. Of course John Wayne was there. But soon there was a. Got to fight these commies. And part of the thing you've also got to do is bang as many women as possible. And punch him.

And what? John Wayne. Oh, yeah. I should admit that I really have no issue with physical abuse. Read that interview and playboy or whatever. He didn't need to say it. He did it on set. Oh, I'm learning a lot about myself. Pilgrim.

But soon there was a disagreement between HL and Smoot on programming for Fax Forum. In order to remain tax exempt, F, Faxforum had to present both sides of the political coin. Imagine. Imagine a time. HL obliged, allowing liberals to say their piece before ensuring they were slammed with an anti-communist message. Now what about the, like, what is it, fair time or whatever? I think that's what it is, yeah. But does that exist? That's gone.

Yeah, the fairness doctrine is gone. That existed in the last 10 years. I think Reagan got rid of that. No. Reagan got rid of it. Oh, really? Yeah. Smoot thought this was stupid, and he

said they should just stick to their own message and not let the other side have any airtime. In the end the government said that HL's efforts to show both sides have been in vain and that the network was clearly partisan. One senator stating that it was quote neither fact nor forum. Once Facts Forum was subjected to taxes HL fired Smoot and replaced Faxforum with Lifeline, a new organization that was unapologetically right-wing conservative, or as HL preferred to say, constructive. Yep. Nice.

Nice. Yeah, I like that. So they're going to tax us and just get rid of it and change his name. Yep. Yep. Well, I would imagine that you probably, I mean, tax exemption is huge. Well, but it sounds like this will be taxed, but he's just going to fucking lean into it now. Yeah. And probably profit a lot off of that anyway, but that tax exemption is big.

Yeah. Lifeline also had a religious flavor that Facts Forum didn't. This was mainly due to Ruth's influence who also who convinced HL to hire Christian fundamentalist minister for roles both on the airwaves and off many serving on a board of advisors. So Ruth's fucking fucked. Yeah. And also so she's a she's a just so're, she was a mistress who started banging this guy at 19 to have his kids was a mistress for a couple of decades and then marries him. But she's a Christian. Just so we're just, yeah, that's a, well, I mean, again, imperfect messages, David. HL, who was not a churchgoer, did not always get along with these religious men. He advised them that they shouldn't align

with white supremacists, but nor should they shun them. Well, I do think that's fair. I mean, you know, leave the door open. It's like, they're people too. You know, why would you, uh, they, they look, they it's, it's, it's important to just try to reach everybody. The white supremacists are also, they're a voting block. Yeah. They're people. Yeah. Let's hear what they have to say. It's like Hillary said, all lives matter. Yep. Uh, they should not support Jews, but they should compliment at least one Jew on air

so they will not be seen as anti-Semitic. That's good to do for sure. That's awesome. And now it's our positive Jew moment. That's right. This Jew comes from us, uh, from Long Island, New York. Wow. Have we got a Jew for you. Breaking Jews.

If HL published something complimentary about a Jewish or black person, he'd carry the article around and whip it out when he felt necessary to prove that whatever people were saying about him, he was not an anti-Semite or a racist. Oh my God. He pulled out an article. It's like those guys who walk around

with the articles, like the Constitution in their pants. Oh yeah, the guys are like, what do you mean? Of course I love America. Look, I have a flag pin. But it's also remarkable because identity politics, they have outsmarted us.'ve have outsmarted us for they like we're outsmarted us for like a decade where they were like racist. We got a bunch of black people in the cabinet. What about this article? Yeah look yeah the guy we got to drop bombs in the last administration was a black man. Racist. Above all, he said communism must be linked with evil and free enterprise with good. Once he tried to convince one of his on-air preachers, Wayne Poucher, that since the Bible was a bestseller, Poucher should try and sell

Bibles on air for a profit. These special Bibles would be autographed by Poucher and, on the cover, have a lifeline broadcast schedule glued in. Reverend Poucher said no. Wow. And Trump said yes. HL constantly barraged Poucher with tips and demands, including demands such as, quote, improve your diction on air and stop jazzing up the hymns. Is there a more old man thing to say than stop jazzing up the hymns? No, that's about it.

Quit jazzing up the hymns. It's good enough as it is. Fuck. The organ's enough. The organ's the Lord's instrument. Poucher mostly ignored HL and did what he wanted, but he decided that HL might need some guidance to become a good Christian soul. And he invited HL to come to his home and read the Bible with him at his children's bedside. HL agreed.

That's fucking creepy as shit. No, it's totally normal. I have an old weird guy come by and read the Bible with me. That is fucking, hello. Kids, this is, well. Mind if I creep while we do this? Read a verse that I'll creep a little bit. Yahoo. Yahoo.

All right. Here we are. And the Lord hath described something that he could only see. In the eyes of Jehovah, the witnesses were all around. Yahoo. No. Hey, that's my Bible roughing, by the way. That's good. H.L. agreed. By the end of the evening, H.L.

F***ing 60 year old weird oil man by your bedside, like sitting on a stool. That's when I started having nightmares. Um, and I'll read the next verse to you Gus. Could I have a little more water? My mouth gets so dry. At the end of the evening, H.O. was on his knees in prayer and tears are rolling down his face. Oh boy. Oh, fuck me. No, we don't want this. Oh, this is like when the Hulk eats the electrical cable striking. Well, the iron was hot. Poucher drove HL to his church that very night and tried to convince him to

get baptized. HL told him he wanted to, but he's afraid God wouldn't forgive him for his sins until he'd done some good. Well, that part's true. Well, yeah. Yeah. He knows he's a piece of shit. Yeah, right. It's amazing.

It wasn't until HL started attending church with Ruth that he got one of the nuns pregnant. Sorry, I'm at all. Sorry, I got all the nuns pregnant. It wasn't until he started attending church with Ruth that he really jumped into religion or his version of it. Right. They went to First Baptist Church, the world's oldest Baptist church that boasted a ministry containing Reverend Billy Graham and HL's favorite, a handsome young preacher named

Reverend W.A. Criswell. Criswell, like H.L., saw Christianian politics as totally fused, once saying that if he had a quote, liberal hair on my head, I'd pluck it out. This was a religious take that H.L. could get behind. On his 71st birthday, he was baptized by Criswell with Ruth and their four kids. I shot a load in the water. This is how we do it. The very idea of, it's so amazing when like fundamentalists or whatever, I mean, even like this separation of church and state was like a big component in all of this.

Yeah, it used to be. And the, well, isn't that the founding father shit? Yeah, but, you know... I mean, but that was like part of... I mean, I understand we've abandoned everything, but it's the people who hold the Constitution in their pocket that fully ignored that part. Like, Tom Cotton has the fucking Constitution in his pocket.

Tom Cotton is also like, if Jesus were around, he'd be in the Senate. Yeah, they're... yeah. They're liars. Well, they believe a different version of that. Yes. I don't know if they're liars as much as they are deluded. The line is really hard to track. Big.

H.L. and Chris will begin. If you're embracing Trump, it's like, sorry, what's your fucking... No, but he makes sense in a biblical aspect. Yes, because they believe that he is in the Bible. Yeah, there's a guy just like in the Bible that was not really the flawed messenger. The flawed messenger who comes. Yeah, so it all makes sense. Yeah.

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Chriswell exclaiming from his pulpit that, quote, the election of a Catholic as president would mean the end of religious liberty in America. HL sends out 200,000 copies of the sermon, but there was backlash of people who didn't think religion should have been brought into politics. And HL is surprised by that. He stops making public appearances, so much so that one paper asked him to quote,

come out, big daddy, to wherever you are. Stop. Stop with the daddy shit. Enough. The fuck are you guys doing? Disgusting. It's so weird. It is so.

It's what they're doing with Trump. They keep calling him daddy. It's like, what are you doing? It is this weird. It is weird. It is sexual. Yeah. It's a weird, like, weird. It is sexual. Yeah. It's a weird, like weird little culty sexual thing.

HL eventually came out to say that he'd only done it to help out poor Lyndon. When Johnson got the VP slot on the Dem ticket, HL held a press conference and announced his endorsement of the JFK Johnson ticket. Quote, I've decided to vote for Kennedy since I admire his father, Joe Kennedy, who was a good businessman. I refuse to believe that any son of Joe Kennedy can be a liberal. I mean, he is. Well, yeah, but it's not true because I made it into my head. The National Democratic Party chairman then immediately came out and said that they did

not accept HL's endorsement and wouldn't accept any money from him. See, now why the fuck can the Democratic Party of today not say that shit? Because Clinton turned them away from unions. Soon after JFK won the election, HL self-published a novel that he'd been writing. I can't wait. Alpaca. In the nation, in the novel. Alpaca?

In the novel, a nation called Alpaca gives the most votes to people who pay the most taxes. Why did he name it after Alpacas? I don't know. That's super weird. There name it after alpacas? I don't know. That's super weird. There's got to be a reason. I don't know why. Yeah, but it's like you could call a country anything.

Alpaca. It's strange. It was not a llama. I mean, it is. It's like, what if a llama smoked weed? Alpaca. No one receiving government assistance could vote. When a reviewer chided HL for writing about a, quote,

fascist democracy, HL wrote to the reviewer in earnest saying, you are the only one who really understood what I was getting at. That is a crazy thing to say. That's so fucking nuts. You get me. You understand what I'm going for. You called me fascist. You get it.'m going for. You called me fascist.

You get it. Yes, yes, I'm a fascist. Yes. That would be America. That's Alpaca. Also in the novel was a love affair between a man who was greatly resembled the younger HL and an opera singer.

Okay, sure. This causes people to start talking. As the real HL had recently begun sponsoring an opera singer who was living in Dallas. Oh no. They're just friends. No bullshit. He insists they're just friends.

No, how old? Still, his interest in opera grew until he paid to stage a production of The Barber of Seville on the Dallas fairgrounds. Oh, this is like, uh, this is this is like, what is the Orson Well, Citizen Kane based on Willie Randolph. This is like that, right? Where it's like you are just like, well, you want an opera? I'm a weird old man with endless money.

Did you see Melania's getting a documentary? Yeah. But that's $40 million. Yeah, but that's just a grift to make. It's like a, you're bribing. But it is like, imagine. All these people. I love documentaries. I'll tell you what, there's not one I'm skipping by faster than the Melania documentary.

Well, if they told the truth that you came here as a sex worker, then it would be a doll. Okay. So people are excited to see an opera. The first for many Texans will be the first one they see. Uh, it's wonderful, but everyone got very confused during the intermission because L got HL got up in front of the crowd and begins shilling for the gastro magic. The gastro magic. Yeah. That was the thing from the last episode, the health thing. Oh, it's the concoction of vitamins. Right, right.

He had employees fan out through the audience and hand out samples as he read from a sermon that would soon feature on an episode of Lifeline. This is there are no lines. He has too much money. This is so Trump are no lines. He has too much money. This is so Trumpian though. The handing out, the doing something gastro magic. It is, uh, yeah, it is like media chaos, advertising chaos. Just where you're like, we're nothing like the way that, I mean, he was it sell stakes. So what? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. When, when they were like, like Ivanka's handbags are like the best. That's what it is. While people enjoyed the opera, the commercial in the middle, you know, notwithstanding, no one seemed to like alpaca. So according to H.L. Hunt biographer,

Jerome Tisiel H.L. quote began shipping huge boxes of the books to unsuspecting citizens all over the globe. That's fucking awesome. So college librarians, senators, political figures around the world. He's just like going to get books. We just all of a sudden like the fuck is this? It is crazy. What's up?

I guess it's about a country made of animals and like Wait, there's a letter here. Dear reader, I think you'll really enjoy this book. H.L. Hunt. Isn't that that oil guy? Yeah, but he's also into llamas now. And alpacas. I don't understand.

He wants a country of alpacas. This book sucks. Let the alpacas lead us. I don't think that's what he's saying. I don't understand. He wants a country of alpacas. This book sucks. Let the alpacas lead us. I don't think that's what he's saying. I think so. I don't believe so. He wrote his own little jingle to the tune of How Much is That Doggy in the Window, which starts off, How much is that book of the window?

The one that says all the smart things. How much is that book in the window? The one that says all the smarter things. You're being sued. The doggy window people are furious. He had his daughters sing it at a book signing. He arranged for himself. Oh man.

It's like it is if like Rupert Murdoch fucked Trump. I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. So for some reason, it didn't help sales. It didn't help sales of the book for some reason. But what it did do is make HL look like a joke. Yes. Good.

Political writer William Buckley, a one time writer at Facts Farm wrote, quote, the capitalist cause would be greatly enhanced if H.L. Hunt was a socialist. Oh man, that is so bad. As Kennedy entered his third year as president, H.L. knew he'd been wrong to support him, mostly because Kennedy had begun calling for doing away with the oil depletion allowance, which would end up costing HL money in taxes. So all oil barons were upset with Kennedy. So it gets to the point where JFK decides that he should go down to Texas and put on a friendly face. Okay. Oh shit.

As JFK's visit to Dallas grew closer, Lifeline aired more and more conspiracies against Kennedy, accusing him of being a secret communist infiltrator. On the morning of November 22nd, 1963, Lifeline warned its listeners about a leftist Kennedy plot to take away their guns. So he's like Alex Jones. A little bit, yeah. Yeah. But there were other guys.

This time in Dallas, in Texas, it is full of right wing hysteria. Right? Like it is. It is more than you see that is off the fucking charts. When you watch that video, you're like, Oh shit. I mean, why would he even do that? Um, so the taking of the guns would keep them from rising up against their oppressors and HL sun bunker also paid for a huge newspaper ad in the Dallas News criticizing the president. HL and his oilmen friends made sure that the atmosphere was as unwelcoming as possible once JFK

landed in Texas. And that was a lot. It was very unwelcoming, it turns out. But I mean, we've never gotten into this. But would, I mean, do you think that was, I mean, that wasn't what got JFK killed No, no, there's a lot the government agencies is I think it was McDonald's The Hamburglar like steadying a rifle burglar.

Now this visit to Dallas would obviously be the end for JFK. Um, he was shot and he wanted Johnson before this. Yeah. He wanted John. So now he gets his guy Johnson. Um, JFK was shot 10 blocks away from HL's office. After his death, a senator in DC said to reporters that, quote, HL Hunt has to bear a lot for the onus because of the fanatical broadcasts he sponsors.

If any was responsible, he is. And we keep hearing that shit anyway. So Leah R.B. Oswald is arrested, and then he's killed by Jack Ruby. Um, when Ruby's pockets were searched, they contained two Lifeline radio scripts. Oh wow. When he was asked about them, Ruby said he'd gotten them in a package of HLH food. An Al package.

It was found, it was also found that Ruby had visited the office of Lamar Hunt. Wow. right before the assassination to drop off a woman for a job interview. Also weird. So a lot of people now blame HL for all the rhetoric that leads to JFK's death. Okay. And the FBI convinces him to leave Dallas and go into hiding. Okay.

I got hiding pregnant. He goes to stay at the Bay Flower Hotel in Washington DC. Nice and private. It's just, if anything... Nice and hidden. No, go to DC. That's where, without question, that's where you can kind of be covert. So this makes it more of a target. It's so dangerous for him to be there that the FBI told them that it would just be safer to go back to Dallas. Okay Yahoo A security detail was set up around HL's home until he ordered them to leave So now as he's focusing more on politics

His HLH products food company and writing an unsuccessful sequel to Alpaca. He wrote another one. Alpaca 2, the cleanup of war. Alpaca 2, llamas. Alpaca 2. Peter Pan writing another. That's awesome.

Now his sons are starting to come into their business. Bunker, who is a dweeb, but idolizes his dad, even though he's constantly called a fucking idiot by him. He doesn't let blowing all his fortune on dry oil wells stop him from trying to impress daddy. Bunker gets into his head that the next huge oil find would take place in the Middle East, Libya. Oh, boy.

And using HL's contacts, Bunker is granted the drilling rights. Wow. To Libya. To all of it? Yeah. This time, he would show HL that he wasn't all that dimwitted. And then Bunker finds one of the largest untapped oil reserves in the world, the Sareer oil field. It was more oil than Hasse had ever found. Producing a hundred thousand barrels of oil a day, Bunker

is on track to become as rich as his father. He follows his dad's political footsteps, supporting white supremacist George Wallace for president, along with daddy, obviously. He also inherited his father's view on Jews being a different breed than Christians, but still hired them in his businesses as he thought they were quote, smart and cunning and said that he'd quote, never took a Jew, never took, never took a gift Jew in the mouth. Oh, Jesus Christ.

I mean, just despicable. Yeah. That really is like the way that we allow it, not only allow it, but it's like a theme. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the theme. The theme of this country is this. Yeah, it is both Herbert and Lamar are also very desperate to please daddy. Herbert was bookish and focused on school and he gets a degree in geology, which HL

laughed at. Have you even read Alpaca one and two? One of the reasons you get a degree in Geo, it's about fucking oil. I would imagine it would be helpful. Jesus Christ. So he goes into oil just like Bunker and Herbert and Bunker worked together quite a bit. In 1970 a policeman pulled over a guy for running a stop sign. When the policeman walked up to the car, he sees inside several pieces of equipment, which it turns out are supplies for wiretapping. The man who had been pulled over, who's a private detective, admitted that that is exactly what the equipment was.

That guy's good. By the way, glad you hired that guy. And he'd been hired by Bunker and Herbert Hunt. But when you hire a wiretap guy is one of the first things you assume that if the wiretap guy gets caught, he's not going to say it's for wiretapping. Or for who it's for? For who it's for? Yes, officer. This is to wiretap on behalf of my very rich clients.

Huh? No, I was just going to say you kind of roll through that- No, it's for Bunker and Herbert Hunt. For what? What is? I'm wiretapping their political enemies. These wires? What are they? I'm doing illegal surveillance for the Hunt brothers. I thought you were like a radio guy.

No, I'm committing crimes for the Hunt. I'm just assuming you're some radio guy. I'm trying to tape everyone to- Looks like you took a metal detector. We're abribing the world. I'm just assuming you're some radio guy. I'm trying to take everyone to metal detector We're bribing the world. What are you talking about? We're gonna take down the government in your car Yes, I was just gonna say you kind of next time make sure you fully stop at the stop sign, okay? But wait, what is all this? I don't know. No, you just said you work for HL huntin his kids. Yeah So you want your wiretapping people? you work for H.L. Hunt and his kids. Yes.

So you want your wiretapping people? A little. Illegally? A little bit. What do you mean? Maybe. Jesus Christ, did you just said it all? Go, go.

You're driving. I was hoping that would make you go away. No, no, I'm here. I'm tapping your house. All right. Get out of the, obviously get out of the car. We're going to beat you. OK, so.

Herbert Bunker and Herbert, I guess was unbelievably thorough. They'd use his services to listen in on phone calls made by top brass in their dad's hunt oil company. You just get their own cousin. Their wiretapping their cousin. But this is it. It's like, it just breeds the worst parts of you. This just, it's a cancer. If they can learn what the top guy at their dad's company is doing, then they can make deals or whatever to impress their dad.

It is a money is a cancer on the soul of society without question. It's awful. They're also tapping HL's private secretary and possibly their half brother, Ray. I was actually wiretapping myself, dad. I got a lot of shit on myself. half brother Ray. I was actually wiretapping myself, dad. I can't be trusted. And by the way, here's the dossier of what I was talking about. Some of it's pretty scandalous. Bunker said that they only did it to protect their dad's money because people he worked

with were stealing tens of millions from him. This is part of the advantage to having 15 children is that you do actually create this culture where your kids are like gonna overly defend you because that's the only way to get a slice of your affection and love. Yeah. Pretty cool. Associates at Hunt Oil said this was all absurd and that the only person stealing from HL was HL so he could pay less in taxes. The story of the Hunt Brothers going behind the backs of the family and employees

who had worked for HL for decades got so big that Bunker and Herbert ended up hiring a public relations specialist who quickly got them to pose for a happy portrait with the whole extended family, Ray included. Oh my God. Unreal, man. Unreal.

The wiretapping case would come to court five years later, with the Hunt brothers' main defense being that they didn't even know wiretapping was illegal. That's fair. We plead dumb as fuck. Hey, what do you plead? I'm a fucking idiot. I'm a dummy? Your Honor, quiet.

Your Honor, the boys plead stupid. Your Honor, I don't know. Shut up. fucking idiot. I'm a dog. I'm a quiet your honor the boys plead stupid Yeah, no, no, shut up. Yeah, your honor. The boys are very stupid. I don't know. I mean look at him Look at these idiots. They're empty-headed Raised by a rich man who crawls around creeping singing. Yeah, you're not allowed to raise your hand Yahoo honor you're not allowed to raise your hand I give honor I'd also like to add that's not a defense you can't say you don't know a crime that's not a defense by the way the, the new defense, I don't remember. That's

what they always say now. Yeah. I don't recall that. I don't know. Maybe I did. I don't recall it. The president of the Detectives Agency, Bunker had hired to place the wiretaps said he told Bunker in no uncertain terms that if they got caught, they could be in trouble criminally and civilly. So wait a minute. When I got pulled over though, I was thinking that I was basically, what should I have said? Should I have said no to them? I don't understand. The cop, he pulled me over. I didn't know what to do. I was in a panic. But the guy's basically saying that if his detective gets pulled over, that he's going to rat on him, which is what happened.

Yeah. But also- Although what- Why hire that guy? But can I also just say like, if you have a bunch of wire timing equipment, drive better. Don't look. Have your, have your taillights all in order with weed back in the day. Yeah. You hit every stop. Yeah. Or a body or huh? Yeah. What's up? If you got a body in the car, full stops, signaling, you turn right, the whole shebang. Make sure your brake lights are checked.

I don't think we're saying the same thing. Don't let the blood drip out the back. The whole shebang. I don't know if... Why would you hire a wiretap guy when one of the guarantees is that he's going to tell on you? I don't know. I'd be like, wait, what?

I'll pay more to not do that? Can you just be like you worked for the phone company first? I'm one of the richest guys around. Like I have so much money. Can't like the first couple of things you say be more like, I'm a wire fiend. Yeah. I love wires. It's for my girlfriend and I.

I work for John Morse. Have you heard of ASMR porn? It's weird. ASMR porn. Uh, so Bunker maintained that he was being unfairly targeted by the feds because he hadn't allowed members of the CIA to use his business in Libya to spy on Mohammar Gaddafi. Wow. Well, that guy will turn it.

That'll be fun. He also believed he was being picked on for his conservative political beliefs. Ruth, stepbrother Ray's mother, even came to their defense and told the court, quote, I didn't do anything for them. So Bunker and Herbert are looking at 30 year sentence counts. There's six counts of wire tapping, so 30 year sentence. But in the end, the court decided that as they had been trying to help their father and didn't know that what they

were doing was a federal crime, they would be acquitted. Oh, fuck me straight up acquitted. That's not a thing. How many times, I mean, just on fucking TV shows or it's not, you can't say I didn't know it was a crime. That's not a thing. You're not allowed to enter that plea for a reason. It's not a thing. If you, if that plea was an option, literally everyone, that would it be it without question. How do you plea?

I didn't know. I don't know. Get out of here. What about you? I didn't know. I don't know. Get out of here. What about you? I didn't know. The detectives that placed the wiretaps went to prison for three years. That's it's it's shocking. Shocking. It's just American in a nutshell. Yeah, it is. The rich have rules and then you have some. Lamar was less involved in the business intrigue and became obsessed with sports.

He is no athlete, but he loved to watch football. Okay. In 1959, 27 year old Lamar created the American Football League. Oh, wow. With himself as president. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah, you know this is going.

He also created his own team within the league, the Kansas City Chiefs. Lamar. Oh my God. Oh my God. But as much money as Lamar poured into the team, they, oh my God, they could not improve. I didn't even think about this. HL told his son that he was playing, not working, and it was reported that Lamar's team was costing him one million a year, but he stuck with it and slowly the Chiefs improved. Lamar also bought a team in the North American Soccer League, the Dallas Tornado, and helped start the World Championship Tennis Tournament. In 1970, Lamar won his greatest achievement yet when his Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl. Lamar actually coined the name Super Bowl,

inspired by a toy his kids had been playing with, a Super Ball. He was instrumental in the merger between the AFL and the NFL in the same year. Oh my god. OK, listen. Listen. Oh my God. Okay, listen, listen. Listen to me. If you enjoy this show.

Take your glasses off. If you enjoy this show. If you like this show. We've done this with Coors. We've done this with many things. The Chiefs, you cannot support the Kansas City chiefs. The name is disrespectful. The tomahawk chop that you continue to do despite the outcries of people who are offended

by it for good reason, you continue to do it. You are founded on this. You cannot, you look, relocate your brain. You can't, you can't, you can't keep doing this. David Keckner. David Keckner. We love you. But stop it. But even Patrick Mahomes would say, look, at this point, I wouldn't even support us. I mean, we are founded like we're in this organization is like flaming dog shit in a bag. It's so funny when they got rid of the end racism thing on the at the end of the you know, what's a nightmare field and it was chiefs.

I don't need that. You're like, you're not any, you know, it's a nightmare is I'd started doing stand up about How the NFL had painted themselves into a corner with that? Yeah, and like Removing that yeah was going to be really tough. Yeah and and then they did and nobody really gave me shit it was kind of the the last remaining Relic of the George Floyd murder. It was like, that was kind of the last one.

And it kind of was so, it really was interesting to go like officially nothing changed. Yeah. That's right. Well, no, cops got more money. Well, while his kids are up proving themselves, HL, who is now old, was becoming a bit more self-conscious. He became terrified of the idea that people would think he was a foolish old man and would frequently corner employees in the office and demand to know if they thought

he was silly. Weird old man stopping you for that. You're doing creeping. Yo, can I ask a question? Yeah, you work at this company, right? Yeah. Yeah. Come across a bit silly at times. Yeah, like a lot. Yeah. Good. What? Oh my god. I wasn't silly Are you really are you the fucking Emperor from Star Wars? Oh, I don't know what exactly you but I Am not that chilly You never agree Yes, yeah, I could still shoot a load

Okay, please get any and I. And I'll make another boy. I'm good, thank you. His life and opinions continue to be his favorite subject, and he published two autobiographies within which he made several false claims about his lineage and never once mentioned Frania or their children. That's a little crazy. The newly baptized Christian also glossed over the blame he faced for Kennedy's assassination as well as gambling.

On November 29th, 1974, HL died at 85 years of complications from cancer and pneumonia. He left his family three oil companies, a refinery, HLH Products, wrenches, a stable with over a thousand thoroughbreds, mines, farms, tons of real estate. It was, according to Hunt's biographer, quote, the largest single fortune owned by one family on earth. Split between Ruth's children and Lyda's children, the two groups of siblings went their separate

ways and split up the companies and their offices. Bunker was especially annoyed that HL had left so much in the hands of Ray as he was born out of wedlock. Later HL would feel free to look up a picture of Bunker while you're just so you can see later HL would be the inspiration for the character JR Ewing of Dallas the TV show. Wow. Bunker turned out to be more like HL than his dad would ever admit. He was a fundamentalist Christian lent support to the John Birch Society. Oh cool. Oh my God. Yeah. Real fucking. Oh boy. Hey, oh Christ. He's really, he looks like a gross old Texas dude. Yep. Yeah. Groper. He was terrified of what he saw as the looming atheist taker of America and he always was looking for the next project.

And one day he decided that project would be silver. Bunker hired researchers to look into the silver market and they told him that they believed silver would soon reach an all-time high price due to growing consumption and shrinking production. Bunker and brother Herbert bought silver futures contracts, not too short but to keep them for the long term. They were so afraid of the US crumbling to atheistic influences that they were worried their paper money would be one day worthless.

So now they're the right wing crazy conspiracy guys. Yeah, they're Alex Jones. But they're the right wing, uh, crazy conspiracy guys. Yeah. But they're super rich. Yeah, right. Yeah. So they're going to get shit done. You got to drink this silver. Uh, so to preserve the wealth and power, they needed something like silver.

And in 1970, we haven't even had a chance to grieve HL. No, we haven't. He's gone. Yeah. That's fine. In 1973, Bunker and Herbert took delivery of 25 million ounces of silver. Oh my god. The Hunt brothers were obsessed with silver,

and they discussed silver all day, every day, according to a colleague. Soon they had 55 million ounces of silver in their possession, almost 1 tenth of the world's supply To hide this massive amount of silver which is worth about 300 million. It's about 2 billion today They decided it needed to be taken to Switzerland Sure, so they hired three 707s to take the silver to Switzerland and 12 Cowboys to guard it.

Well, look, I was going to let you just say details, but come on. I'm with Lasso's. So it gets to Switzerland safely. They almost ran out of space to store it. Word got out that a huge cache of silver was owned by one family, which causes a panic in commodities. It seems like one family is going to corner the world supply of silver.

Which is not great. So people all over the world start buying as much as they can, which leads to silver prices soaring. Oh, they soar. Bunker and Herbert are now thrilled. Right? Yeah. And Bunker makes trips.

But this is going to fall apart. Bunker makes trips to the Middle East and to convince sheiks and kings to start buying silver, which makes the price go up higher. Margaret Hunt and Silverbubble. Yeah. Margaret Hunt and several other members of the Hunt family are now annoyed with bunker and Herbert's silver obsession, which they think is leading to them to neglect the oil

business. What a beautiful. What a lovely group of people you've created. Beautiful. They have so much money tied up in silver that the Hunts have been unable to obtain money for new oil leases. Oh, it's just, I mean, but we've all had that family dinner table conversation. Yeah. I mean, we're all, but we kind of just going like, honey, I'm worried we're neglecting the oil. Working with wealthy Arab partners, they hoarded enough

silver to cause a real panic and artificially drive up the price. The hunt brothers attempt to corner the silver market made silver jump from $6 an ounce to $50 an ounce. It's now so expensive that Tiffany's takes out an ad in the New York Times to shame the hunts. Fucking you got to be. You made Tiffany's man for Tiffany's to just be like, we are shaming you. Tiffany's. People begin melting down family silver to sell. Burglary's...

We really are incapable of handling much. We can't handle the idea of money. We really can't. We can't process the idea that... But at least it's finite. So I'm not justifying this, but again, it's shiny. So it's like, who gives a fuck? It's actually nothing. There's no point to it at all.

The money, the actual dollar bills is even dumber because you're just kind of like this bizarre thing of like, I mean, it's just fucking some, we're just printing it there as much as you want as possible. And yet everyone's life will be ruined over it. It's like, what's the difference between Bitcoin and silver? Silver is just a thing that we decided was valuable. Yes. Which is what we did with Bitcoin. Yep. It's insane with gold. Like we just decided that was going to be more. Well, it was like, wasn't it when they just sort of, when the first time the fucking the explorers or whatever, the fucking pillagers saw it.

I think it has more scientific properties in a way, like whatever. What they were able to build shields or yeah or some bowl but still it's not worth that much now compared to other and I also think it was just that it was shiny yeah I think that it was shiny and they were like pretty shiny pretty yeah and they were just like my wife wants it kill all these people yeah so people are melting down. So where there's burglaries are increasing all over the U S and the brothers run out of liquid cash to buy more. So they borrow. So they're out of their fucking minds. They're out of their minds. They borrow a lot. What are we talking?

In early 1980, the hunt brothers own one third of all the silver in the world not owned by governments. Wow. It's worth tens of billions of dollars. Wow. After seeing what the Hunt Brothers are up to, Commodity Exchange Incorporated, COMEX, introduced silver rule number seven.

This made it much more difficult for the brothers to borrow from brokerage firms in order to buy silver. Banks pull back, and the hunts begin struggling to meet their margin calls. Then silver prices begin to dip lower, and on March 27th, 1980, which is a day that would become known as Silver Thursday, the inability of the brothers to meet a margin call led to the price of silver plummeting to under $11 an ounce. Their assets in the billions the day before now cost them billions in debt. Not only were Bunker and Herbert now bankrupt, their scheme had put several banks in danger of going bankrupt.

There's some good news. To stop this from happening, the Hunts were given a 1.1 billion line of credit so that they could meet their margins. Of course. Yeah. Why? Well, because their gamble is so huge that now I can take down banks. so that they could meet their margins. Of course. I mean, why? Well, because they've the their gamble is so huge that now I can take down banks.

Yeah, but that but that but I mean, why not just give the money to the banks and fuck the hunts? Yeah. Also, it's like you've got to just let eventually just be like, hey, you made poor decisions. I'm sorry. It's bad. But it's not only the silver market that the hunts have to worry about. Well, the price of oil was dropping and they neglected their oil business as they were going after silver. By 1988, the brothers had declared bankruptcy and were in order to pay tens of millions

in fines. Bunker, quote, a billion ain't what it used to be. Dude. What? That is okay. You get it though. a million ain't what it used to be. Dude. What that is. Okay. You get it though. In 2008. I remember hearing a comedian say a million

isn't what it used to be. Yeah. And that felt difficult to hear. Hearing that in 88 is so fucked up. So this is so fucked up. So this is all really embarrassing.

Yeah, I was going to say, but here's the cool thing. The government, their chests are all safe from the litigation and they remain there. Some of the richest people in the U S so you can only, you can't sue their, you can only take so much. Yeah. Why? I don't know. Well, because because the richer have have mod sue their trust. Yeah, you can only take so much. Yeah. Why? I don't know. Well, because the richer have have moated their money. All of HL's children with Lida and Frania have since passed away, but his four children with Ruth Ray are still living.

After Lamar Hunt died in 2006, his children remain the owners of the Kansas City Chiefs. And the current CEO is Lamar's son Clark. Hunt Petroleum, which was owned, co-owned by Margaret and Hasse's estates, sold for $4.2 billion in 2008. Margaret died in 2007 and Hasse in 2005. Carolyn Hunt founded Rosewood Hotel and Resorts before dying in 2018 and Bunker passed away in 2014 and Herbert in 2024. According to Forbes, the family is worth $24.8 billion. God fucking damn it.

I mean, dude, listen. I can't because I really think that it's like if the Resnick's had a football team. I mean, you really cannot. We. Football. Football is such a great product when you actually watch it. Well, so was baseball at one time. But you have to you have to you have to ruin it. You have to. It's beyond ruin. Which people ruin it? It's it's that we are celebrating, we are advancing these people.

You cannot watch, like I already hate the Kansas City Chiefs, like we all already hate the Kansas City Chiefs unless you're a Chief fan. How the fuck can you mentally separate this in your head? How can you compartmentalize on this level? Billionaires should not exist, period. I'm a Manchester United fan, but it's very hard for me to support them knowing how the owners are fucking scumbags. The Glazers.

Yeah. The Glazers and Enios, it's like a oil fucking company thing, like chemicals and whatever but they're like the guys that he's going through and just just destroying like all the shit in the in the club since he bought his way in but the glazers are just fucking vile terrible human beings and it makes me not want to watch it as much like I just don't watch it as now you know and that's why the Packers are good because the Packers are fucking they are owned by the fans. They're owned by the fans So, you know, there was an app I just found called boy cat. Oh, yeah

Yeah, and that's one of the few things recently where I go Yeah, you know, that's pretty good. So you can scan a label and tell if your money is gonna go to support Israel, right? And that's an easy download It's an easy scan and you'd be actually a little galled and shocked to find out how much of your shit is actually supporting yeah the the all the VPNs a lot of the VPNs mmm express VPN a lot of VPNs sources Kingdom the story of the Hunt family of Texas, by Drums. Tussil.

Texas Rich, the Hunt dynasty from the early oil days through the silver crash by Harry Hunt. The Hunt Brothers, how two billionaires broke the silver market on ScottsdaleMint.com. HL Hunts, long goodbye. In Texas Monthly by Bill Porterfield Nelson bunker hunt oil tycoon with Texas size presence dies in the New York Times October 14th as October 2014 and the Hunt Brothers trial told about wiretap payments in the New York Times.

Well let's just say the research was obviously fucking incredible. This was the best research. I mean, she's always, Brittany Coenbrown is always really great, but this was, like she literally wrote this and I just went, I'm not gonna change a word. And usually I change stuff and I was just like,

I'm not changing a word. I mean, I was reading it and I got to the creeping thing and I was literally just like- When she sent it to you, was she like, this is gonna be hard for me to edit down. She said she had to cut a bunch of stuff out because she's like, there's just too much, this family is just nonstop.

Well, tracing it to the Chiefs, I mean, it's such a, it really is, it's like, you know, we just, I don't think we will, and I know you don't think we will but we have to stop The money funnel. I mean look To be very truthful. The only way you stop the money file is the way that one country did it Yeah, and that's France and that's literally the only way you stop it. I mean, there's no you can't do it and you have to know like We're Debbie Downers, but you have to know that there was a week before the French revolution, they were walking around going like, can you

believe we're getting away with this? Like it, it happens quick. It does happen quick so And but then there's people that are like there's good billionaires. Okay, send me Just send me your good billionaire name and I'll research them. I guarantee you they're not good also Your good billionaire argument is always gonna be undercut by the fact that they we could Their money could be even if you think someone's philanthropic it's like sam simon like sam simon was a billionaire on the simpsons and he bill gates bill gates right

yeah he's philanthropic bill gates in the 90s was our villain he was the biggest villain in america and then now he's not that's not how fucking it fucking works. You're never going to be able to convince anyone with math that a philanthropic billionaire is better than a 90% tax rate. So the 90% tax rate, the 91% tax rate, that's a good billionaire because they were never allowed to exist. Because their money that they were supposed to be hoarding, they never got the chance to hoard. Right. That's, that's, that's the, that is better than a billionaire who gives no greater example of how dangerous is to have billionaires than Elon Musk because just a few years ago he was giving money to

Democrats and the Democrats all liked him and liberals all bought his cars because they thought it was fucking awesome. And now he's the most evil man on the planet. That's why you don't let someone have that much power and money. You can't reward it. And I mean, these people, these billionaires were like extremely rich 15 years ago. The wealth increase they've gone through in the last 15 years is- Well, the last five less but but I mean

You know, I mean you're talking about like what mark zuckerberg was what like worth 11 million dollars in 2008 Like I mean their their money was They should not have been allowed to have that But because they were allowed to have that they're now allowed to have this And you can't walk around the streets anymore and say Boy, how do we solve these fucking problems when you're allowed to have Musk, Bezos, Gates. Take the fucking money. You want to solve all these problems? Take the fucking money.

Take the fucking money. Take their fucking money. And why you cannot, you have a co-opted government and you do not even have a government if you sit there and you say well You know, how do we get it back from should not be your job to go and get this money back from these fucking people but if they're gonna make the public do it then that is going to have to happen if you insist This will happen Yeah, it's only a matter of time before. I don't know what it'll look like.

I don't know when it'll happen. It ain't gonna be good, but it's gonna be brutal, horrible, and they are armed to the fucking teeth and they know it. Not only do they know it's coming, they are paranoid about it coming. Oh yeah. It's one of the reasons they're doing this. But, but there you go. The stuff that Musk is doing right now in government is even if you think

this is cost cutting. It's so funny that people think it's, it's like saving us from corruption when it is the most unbridled insane corruption run that has ever happened. The problem is that they're not, they're, they're never going to go, oops, that was bad. Yeah. They're going to believe a different fantasy that'll solve it. Yeah. So you're just going to believe a different fantasy that'll solve it. So you're just going to keep following different fairy trails until you realize, oh God, I'm eating dirt. Yeah. And if you think billionaires should exist, then just go fucking suck on a boat for 20 years. Shocking to me that that is a, can at times be a controversial state. That's insane.

They should not exist. They should not exist. And if they exist and they want to exist, they should be locked up. It's a mental disorder. That's who you lobotomize. That is who you lobotomize. You lobotomize people like Elon Musk and you put them near a window in a wheelchair to watch birds. Anyway, this is going gonna get us locked up in Guantanamo. Yeah, whatever. At least this dick doesn't work. Elon, your dick doesn't work.

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