The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 675 - The South Fork Fishing and Hunting Club Part 1 - Reverse Dollop

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the South Fork Fishing and Hunting Club. This time, Gareth reads the story SOURCES TOUR DATES OFFICIAL MERCH       Squarespace use code: Dollop Chewy

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Goober. Gerith Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about, normally. Mm-hmm. But where's your little iPad that you read off of whatever? Um. Seems that you don't have a. Seems like. I'm mad at it.

Seems, no. I'm mad at my icon. No. Because I bought an iPad. Dave. I went to the Verizon. Dave. Dave.

I said, hey. Dave. Can you set up. David. Can you set up. Dave. Dave. Internet on the.

Dave. Dave. And they said. What? This only has Wi-Fi on, buddy. Wait, what? I bought an iPad that only has Wi-Fi. I don't even know the difference.

Well, so I can't put it in the same. Oh, you can't, you can't, what do you mean? Got a cheap deal. That's wild. I didn't know they did that anymore. I mean, that seems, they're like we got some CDs you can pop in it and get some hours. No, Dave, we're in the midst of a reverse dollop. Oh.

And I'll say it right off the bat. this is going to be two. Glory be to Jesus. Super weird. Well, I'm Mormon now. Super weird. All right, you ready? You want to say anything?

Just keep it chunky. All right. It's noky dokey. I remember when... We're still on tour, by the way. Oh, yeah. If you want to get tickets to our shows, this will go up, so we'll still have, after this.

We'll have... Yeah, plenty of shows. Oklahoma City, and there will be in Tulsa. Tuesday, Wednesday, and then we go to Dallas, and Houston and Austin. Oh, Austin sold out, though. Austin sold out. So don't go to that. You can try. All right. Here we go. Ready? Three, two. Gareth. Johnstown, Pennsylvania, 1852. It's going good so far. So far, I don't know if I believe it. Yeah.

It is made up. This is about the dam? What are you talking about? well, by the way, I was like, obviously, you're going to know this one. The Cambria Iron Company was founded and within two decades was the largest iron producer in the United States. I'm going to ask you to not. Well, but yeah, that's right. All right.

Don't be that. Don't be that. We got to keep on top of you. Nope. The demand was mainly to build the transcontinental railroad. 100,000 pounds of steel were needed to build. railroads. There's a guy back then.

They're transitioning there. It is weird anytime I hear him say trans. He was like transitioning. I can't remember what he was talking about recently, but I'm like, oh, now you're pro trans. All right, asshole. 100,000 pounds of steel were needed to build the train from New York to California,

and Cambria was ready to help. The factory was located in Johnstown because of all the coal and the number of waterways, including the Connemar River, which helped with shipping. Great. Mm-hmm.

Probably your pronunciation. Time went on as a due. And by 1881, Cambria was bought by rich guy, congressman, and fan of the best facial hair in the nation's history or future, the neck beard only, Daniel J. Morel. That's the worst. It's the best one. It's the best one without a question. It's so upset.

It's the facial hair mullet. Yeah. It's the business on face. Party on the neck. Yeah. It's the best. You can't beat it. It's the worst.

By the way, I will grow one. No, you won't. Without question. You're doing it on the last day of the podcast. Without question, I will have one. It's over. And I have good neck coverage, so we're going to be dealing with a turtle. Do you have good neck?

Yeah. Why not the face part? You know what's fucked up? There's a clip of me on Pete Holmes's podcast, and like, it's one of the one, you know, a lot of comments. and the one that I saw was this guy's like, why can't you grow a beard in those spots? I was like, Prout, fuck out of here.

That's easy. Garrett is a burn victim. I should say something like. So have some. Well, the best was there was a guy who talked shit on me about something. I think one of our dollop clips, and I clicked on his profile picture, and it was just him in a cave,

and he had two ponytail. And he was calling us like betas, and I was like, cool double ponytail alpha. Anyway. So Daniel J. Morel had some good. and some bad when it came to his labor practices. Even though Morrell was insanely rich, he was anti-union. But he wasn't a terrible...

He wasn't a terrible magnate by today's abysmal standards. He paid $1.50 a day, just like Amazon. Wow. Which the employees appreciated so much that they would dress up in nice clothes when they went to pick up their paychecks, which is cute. Wait. Go ahead. On paycheck day, they dressed up for paycheck day?

Yeah, they would go get their paychecks. They dressed like in soon. Because they had to go to the office? No, because they were like, we respect this wage, I think. They were like, they were like, they took it seriously. Yeah, but it's better. It's not. It was.

Whenever I get a check in the mail, I always put on a suit. Oh, but I'll tell you do it. Don't be weird. There was around the clock work, though, and injuries, obviously. So he built a hospital near the factory. Right. And anyone injured while working got free tear, which is, again, one of those funny things. That's like.

Wow. Wow, you did that thing you should do. Hey. The company also built a library and a night school for the employees. There was a company store too. Johnstown was pretty happening, even if the people inhabited it were quite poor. It was described by a journalist in 1885 as, quote, new, rough and busy with the rush of huge mills and factories and the throb of perpetually passing trains. I don't know if that should be a throb. Yeah, that's a definite thrope. I don't think that's a train. Throb one sentence. You know what I'm talking about. But if he's paying well, then why are there so many poor people? That's like crazy.

What? What does that even mean? Sorry. What are you talking about? I mean, he essentially owns the whole town, so if he's paying well, then why are the poor people in the town? No, I'm saying there were some people who got paid well. So, he's done.

And he was so rich. He had so much money of his own. and that was good for him. He won. He's beating that. He's a better person. Yeah. He has all the money.

He has a neck beard. Imagine going to the barber for a shave. What? Just the face. I got to look him up. What's his name? Go ahead. Daniel J. Marell.

Okay. Many of the residents could eventually afford modest homes by the nearby Connemah Riverbank. And look, Dave, I'm not going to lie to you. You were kind of highlighting. Yeah, you saw it. Why would you do that? It's awesome, right? I don't know if awesome's the right word.

It's fully clean face. It's a clean face and a neck hair. Yeah, it's awesome. It's crazy. Who does that? Awesome people who are winning. That's like... The best, I agree.

I mean, that's insanely good to see. I agree. It's not good to see. It's tough to not have. Yes, exactly. It's the best. It is without question. I mean, let me see him again.

It's the worst beard ever. It's just crazy. It looks like a neck merkin. It's the best. I mean, it's the bad. Like, how do you talk to someone? Like, how do you take someone like that serious? It looks like he's an actor with a fake chin beard and took it off to just have a conversation.

It's what an off-hour Santa looks like when he's getting hammered at a bar. It's a step below limp biscuit. Listen, it's Durstian. It's worse than Durstian. It's underdurst. Oh, it is a good underdurst. It is low-durst. It is low-durst.

It's just the neck. It's Bush. It's hot bush. It's some hot neck bush. He's got a throat beaver. It's like a pubic neck. It's not, it doesn't live. 100% neck pubs.

Wow. I'm really upset by this guy and I don't want him to live through this story. It's called an under the chin coat. All right. So anyway, like we're saying, there's also some poor people. Look, sure there were tramps. And some people, for the most part, were okay with it. And some people over the tramps got a little weird.

Like the one guy who was really freaked out by then. and in his diary kept what he called a, quote, tramp count. It would read, quote, Wednesday, May 1st, 1889, two tramps, Thursday, May 2nd, two tramps. Any other descriptions of the tramp? No, just that. Just the number. It was the numbers. It was like a tramp census. It's counting tramp. Yeah, it's counting tramps. Yeah, that's fair. That's how some people fall asleep. I count trap. And so on, okay? Then there were also hunkies.

Stamps, I count, too. Okay, dooky. And then there were hunkies. Put your hand down. They were also met with some resistance. That term hunkies was for Hungarians who were now being hired by the mill. And it seems like all immigrants were called hunkies by the residents. So good racism combined with your xenophobia. I'm not sure what it would be. It's not the worst of all the racist terms you can use.

I bet it's bad. I bet if a Hungarian heard that they'd be like, really say that. Yeah. Yeah. I would. What about a Garian? Hungary. It's a Hungarian-Gythian.

What about a gear? Outside of what Morel provided, the town had a solid library, an opera house, and a shitload of churches. On a happening Saturday night, while you could go get a lecture at the library or taking some music in the park. Plus, there were the shows. Oh, Dave. Oh, Dave, the shows. Like Zozo, the Magic Queen. Oh, God, love her.

Which brought its own, quote, special scenery car. Yeah. Or the Johnstown performance of Uncle Tom's cabin that had actual bloodhounds in the show. show. Which don't want to know what they were doing. Yep, that's absolutely for sure. Now you're mad, boys. Why are we mad, dad? It's a plot. Or another show that had, quote, two topses, two marks, Eva and her pony prince, an African mandolin player, and Tinker, the famous trick donkey. Oh my God, I want to know more about Tinker. That's all I am. Right? He definitely passed away from stage beatings. Yeah, I would think so, but until then, he could play Gin Rummy.

Yeah, no, it was a trick donkey. A trick donkey. There was even a roller rink. There were also 123. I thought that was weird. No, that's not weird. That to me, Sam, there's also they were like, it's not, I didn't put it in, but it's like there's Kodak cameras were happening. That feels very. A lot of people were, yeah, Kodak, this is a big Kodak period. Yeah, it seems early to me. Because I've run into, I've come across people getting. being given Kodaks a lot around the time. Yeah, it was like a thing.

That must have been fucking incredible. Yeah. That had to be the greatest. Yeah. They had to look at that, like, how, like, 80-year-olds look at kids with iPhones now. Yeah, he's looking, and taking pictures and everything. But the truth is, that's how I feel about phones now. I'm like, why are you taking so many pictures?

No, you're the guy, be like, just remember him in your head. Yeah. That is close to how I feel. I know. I know. You're becoming more, as the world becomes more chaotic, you're trying to find ways. to control it through... Whoa.

All right. Get out of my ass. Get out of my ass. And working out. Get out of my ass. Eventually. Working out. It'll just snap.

The workouts are becoming more extreme. You don't even know what my workouts are. What are you talking about? You have no clue what my workouts. We before this podcast were having a very nice exchange about our workouts. You fucking asshole. You're such a prick. There were also 123 saloons.

And since it was a steel town, the men got drunk. Yeah, fuck yeah. On Saturdays, the bars were as busy as they ever were, and at the end of every weekend, the paper would talk about some, quote, disturbance from Saturday night men who would be locked up for behaving in, quote, frontier fashion.

Or having fun. That's all I heard, having fun. I agree. That's actually what it should be called. Where are you going? I'm going out and do a little frontiering tonight. Yeah, frontiering. Fun tearing.

We've got some fun tiering. Shoot in the street. Yeah. There also were phones. Around 70 of them. And the Hubert House even had an elevator. So the thing about there being some phones is there's not enough phones to make it worthwhile. Yeah, because you have a phone and they're like, no one.

Who am I going to call? Or then you get one and like somebody you don't like gets one and you're like, oh, fuck. I got to call it. You're going to call Larry again. Hey! Hey, Larry. Hey, it's me. Hey, how's your phone?

It's good. Look at this. I'm on the other side of town. giving you a call. We've done this every day. You know where they're still the only two who have these? Yes, I know. Unbelievable, the way that the world moves and it feels like we're just running behind it.

Yes, this is the same conversation we have every day. I'll tell you. How close is your mouth to the word port, the receiver? Just like that's your way. Were you, that's what happens? That's because I'll say it sounds perfect. It sounds just like. you're in the room with me.

Can you hear the pain? But I know you're not because we're talking on a phone and we're not in the same room. It's the same conversation. How's my sound? It's great. Is it better when I'm here or here?

It's the same. Hmm. Hey, can I tell you I can do an impression to tinker the trick donkey with my balls? Oh. Hello? Oh, no. Oh, okay. And Dave, the Connemar River was amazing.

That a nice pronounce you. The Connemar River was amazing for fishing. There were catfish and pike, which everyone thought was salmon at the time. Trout, eels, crawfish. It was just you shouldn't go fishing too far downstream where the mill was dumping all of its dark black waste. The Conemaa was huge, Dave. Huge in the sense that it's a large river physically or huge in the sense that it was awesome. I think both. Okay. Yeah.

But it was so big that you could fill a lake with the water. So that's exactly what they did. Well, that's how rivers work. Come on. There's a man-made lake. This is a different. All right. So they dug a lake.

And guess what they called it? The Frank. The Connemah Lake. Oh. That's right. Above Johnstown, they dug this Connemal Lake. in an area known as South Fork. Now, the idea was there when they needed in time of droughts.

Sure. Pretty good idea. Yeah. Something we can both get behind that. The lake would hold almost 4 million gallons, and with that much water, they needed a strong dam. And the dam was constructed of mud and clay mounds and layers of small stones and layers of heavy rocks and smashed slate. That doesn't sound good.

The building began in 1840. You said layers. layers layers bro the building began in 1840 and really went through some shit to get it ready

weather was a major factor as the area would get insane rainfalls hence the filling up the lake exactly right dude and the conema

yeah but regardless on June 10th 1852 the dam got completed now any good damsmen no touch any good damsmen will tell you that

the thing you need in a good dam besides a lot of love is the old sluice pipe. Oh, I love a sluice pipe. Okay, so you know what a sluice is? You know what? I've been, some of the best things you can do for a sluice pipe,

beans, trunes. I think we're talking about different stuff. Hold on. Just greens in general, like a... I don't think we're thinking about a... Like a salad. Do you... What do you think a sluice pipe is? It's the thing that your poop comes out of.

Okay. All right. Uh, no. Sleuces. Beg to differ. Okay. So, just so you know. Sluses, the America you live in, Sluses.

It's one in which we both use our own sluice flus flus. Fluses. We're drainage pipes. Yes, that's what we're talking about. No, and dams. They were at the base of the dam. So what you do is during a flood or heavy rainfall, you'd open the sluice. Mm-hmm.

Dave, it's not what you think it is. And then the water would slowly drain out. The excess water would slowly drain out, and that would help keep the water levels low, so the dam would never crest over the top. I can't stress this enough, Dave. You do not want that. You don't want the water over the top of the dam, okay?

Yeah, because if it goes over the top, then it starts undermining the structure. It's exactly right. I know all about Swiss. I've had this experience as well. So the South Fork Dam closed. The sluze pipes, and the lake was filled. Remember, you want to...

It's good to close them. It's okay. You get the water up. Yeah, that's how you get the exact... See, I don't think of... That's how damn's work? Yeah, you're fucking on top of this. So, when the lake came more beautiful nature to behold, there already was.

I mean, there were a lot of black bears, and there were 20-pound turkeys, which is a good size. It all filled out pretty well. Water monster? Water monsters. There were a bunch of water monsters in the... Hey, did you hear about the water monsters? It's going so well.

your new lake. You know, they got a sludge creature. They got a pond. They got a pond. He don't like the sluice. They got a pond. They got an underwater pondman who's banging the sluces. Do you hear?

I did not. He clogged it with his seaweed. Oh, good Lord. So, so yeah. And some of them found that the lake had healing powers, like Dr. Robert Montgomery Smith Jackson, who wrote about the Iron Springs in his book, the mountain. So there was an early Dr. Oz. Yeah,

well, to that point, you must remember when we're talking about Smith Jackson that he also would sometimes bartend at a hotel for fun, and when he was bartending, he would display two jars behind him near some whiskey bottles. In each jar was

a preserved human stomach. One was from a guy who died of natural causes, and the other was from a guy who died of delirium, Trevor's. So just something to... What are you doing? Well, what do you think? What is he doing?

I think what he was doing. Because he wants to fucking talk. No, no. I think what he was doing was he was showing what happens if you drink. In a bar? Yeah, it's weird. That's bad for business.

I might be wrong. But that's what I choose to believe. Can I get a whiskey? Well, it depends which stomach you want to die with. Which one you think? Neither. Look at that. And then one night when he's like in the weeds,

there's a lot of people. He's accidentally pouring like the stomach fluid into it. Hey, and go, a Manhattan. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, good Lord. Hey, a guy goes back up. Excuse me.

I believe there's been a mistake. Oh, no. I think there's supposed to be a garnish on this gland. Other than that, it's the finest Manhattan I've ever had. Um, okay. So, uh, in 1875, Congressman John Riley bought the area, The dam, South Fork, that whole little zone. When he bought it, though, the dam was in need of some repairs.

So he did what any same person. Who did it buy it? Who built it first? There was some other guy. The town or just a private? No, it was another private. Oh, right, right. Yeah. So the dam was in need of some repairs, and he made the brave decision to ignore that.

But he did make one change. What are you doing? Get out on the camera. It's story time. No, no, no. No, no, no. Move. What are you talking to it?

No, go to the dollar patron if you want to see the snuggles. Snuggles. Um, so he, the one change he made was he removed and sold, uh, the sluice pipes at the bottom of the dam. Oh. Which is smart. No, well, I'm kind of. I've, I tried that. Yeah.

And, uh, I think you're talking about something else. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so in 1880, he sold that area to Benjamin Rock. for a $500 loss. Don't do it to a guy named Ruff.

Brough was a rich Coke salesman. I wish that that was the other kind of Coke. I know. That's all I kept thinking. Give me that other spelling. What you say? You're just running this, just a rich cocaine guy.

He's just, I'm gonna get a lake. Yeah, I can't get a lake. Yeah, I can't get lines on the damn. No fucking sluicing. Oh, Jesus. He's got the sluice pipe. He's doing blow through it.

Jesus Christ, Ruff. Are you okay? Let me the fuck alone. I'm telling you the problem for me. Oh, man. Hand me that sluice. So he was a rich coax mailsman, and he dabbled in trains, and he would share in the purchase of this area with Henry Clay Frick.

It was a prick. Their plan was to make the area not just a beautiful place to visit, but a beautiful place to visit for the rich. Yeah. They began to build what would be known as the South Fork Fishing and Hunting Club. Fuck, yes. A private club for the wealthy that could afford it. Yeah, this is what lake should be.

I agree. Rich people only. I agree. And, well, it was a beautiful area. And, you know, I think one of the things I always, that this show has taught me is that everything's always been totally fucked and bullshit. And this is just another example where they build up this beautiful private area. And a place you can accidentally kill a date.

Well, yeah, and you, yeah, exactly. I've accidentally driven my babysitter into the Cornamore Lake. she's uh she's not alive because she will no longer perform fallatio upon me that's how i'm uh i've determined her passing and now i'll just be doing uh women's legislation forever to make up for it oh fuck you think that's what it was yeah yeah of course um so uh so rough rounded up a number of pittsburgh gentlemen to invest in the uh club and their modus operandi was, quote, the protection and propagation of game and game fish and the enforcement of all laws of this state against the unlawful killing or wounding of the same.

But Rough was the president of the club. Basically, he's like, we're going to respect this area and, like, fucking kill a bunch of them. But the dam still was in need of some repairs when he bought it, as we already established, aside from replacing the sluces, which, as we've already established, were removed. Rough acknowledged that the issues were there, and he was ready to build the dam about 40 feet higher, and cut a spilloff at about 20 feet below that. Now, the spilloff is the place where the excess water would go, say, if there were a flood. Which I'm not saying.

So we're getting rid of that? Well, that's what he was supposed to do. But he saw that it was pretty expensive to do all that. Yeah, it's going to cost money. He had money. I mean, he had money. But he decided, you know what, the old dam's actually pretty good. The reason he had money is because he didn't go around willy-nilly, stunning money on dam.

On safety and the empathy for other beings. Yeah, humans. So he decided the old dam would work. And he hired 50 men to build the dam up with local rock, mudbrush, hemlock, hay, pretty much anything they could find. Even horse shit, they put a bunch of horse shit in it. I mean, the thing about hay is that it's going to eventually disintegrate. It'll be gone.

I don't know. I think I would counter that if you're using the horse's shit in there, that's binding. The Great Wall of China is pretty much hay and horse pit. Don't start with me. It is. It is. You always come up with these weird shitbacks. Yeah.

Well, buddy, that's why I've got that show on Vibe. shitfax. By the way, what are we airing? And I'm looking on the camera. What are we airing? So at this time, the dam was 72 feet high and 931 feet wide. So they didn't put the new sluces in. No sluices.

So the dam has no sluces. They just built it up higher. Built it up a little bit. Kind of reinforced it a little bit. It doesn't seem like great. So there's no, I mean, there's no. So if it floods, it's going to go over. there's no way to really, really

if it floods. If it floods. It's not, it's going to flood. No, no, no. It actually doesn't. Because nature. No, no, no, no. It doesn't. No. Let me ask you something. How many trains are you a part of? Which kind of thing? Oh, I guess none.

So maybe you should shut the fuck up. Let this guy cook. Okay? Are we talking about human centipede trains? Yeah. Or make a human? Yeah. By the way, we should, you, me and Luke should do a human set up eat for Halloween. Probably. It's time. So 1880 to 1885, the club continued construction. They made 16 cottages

along the Connemah River. For fucking. It's a fuck place. It's a fuck, shit. If rich guys are creating a little club in the woods, it's for fucking. When you see the people, you are kind of like, this is all. I mean, I've seen the neck beard. No, no, no. That's the only good. guy. It's not a good guy. He's the only good guy. He made, they made 16 cottages along the Connemah River, and while they looked like dollhouses with Victorian architecture, they were actually insane inside.

Calling them a cottage is understanding it. Each one had fireplaces, kitchens, dining rooms. They built an exclusive clubhouse and cub house into a hotel with 47 rooms and a grand dining room that sat 150 members. There were hammocks under the trees. The club also provided 50 rowboats, canoes, sailboats, even a steam yacht. They had a regatta for Christ's sake. I mean, this place is awesome. Keep the pours out of it. Yeah, well, no, I think you should be able to bring up a pour and then hunt. Hunt that. I agree. That's the only reason to do it. Yeah, yeah. It's just so, you know what I would love to do is get a pour from down there in Johnston and put some beef on a string connected to a hat and just see how far they run. Once they're tuckered out, we can go over there, beat them with clubs,

get the bloodhounds from Uncle Tubs Cameron performance, which I saw, which was great, by the way. And have the bloodhounds take part of it and make it a whole thing. By the way, I have a bear now. Oh, my God. Yeah. A fucking awesome. That's great.

Yeah. Good for you. Oh. You've never really seen... Bang a line with the sluice. Until you've seen a bear tear a pour apart, it's just, you really haven't lived. I love the... It's just great to watch.

From a balcony. Yeah. So here's the thing, Dave. Ruff saw the dam as also a great walking path to and from the club. But an issue emerged with the dam walking path. Because it's... Well, you could only have... Turn into a cruising spot?

No. Also cool. You could only have one carriage cross at a time. Because it's too thin. It's too thin. So one way... What happened? So you would have to...

You did... Well, yeah, well, that was not possible. So you'd have to have a carriage wait. So how do you have any weight? Like a guy signals? Like, what are you doing? I don't even have the answer, but I would assume they did the, they do the thing when you're on a one-lane street, you know, going each way. And there's some guy standing there with a stop sign.

Yeah. And he holds it. But has he know the other, that there's a carriage at the other side. The telephones. They had the telephone. Oh, I have phone. You would call him. He'd be like, hey.

Hey, Bertie. How's it going down there? You got a carriage? We got a carriage coming through. didn't you get my last call? Boy, it sounds like we're in the same room to go. Oh, my God, a bear! The best part is we're in a hotel right now.

So what are these rich people to do, Dave? Wait for a carriage? I mean, you pointed it out. It's a fucking flaw. So they wanted to widen it to make it so the two-carriage. Exactly, like a road, exactly, Dave. And in order to do that, they had to lower the dam a little bit. which seems strange to some, you know, because the whole point of the dam is to not have water go over it.

And if the water cress above it, the dam breaks. It's also about driving a carriage is around. I agree. I agree. That said things are two-fers. So lowering would make it easier for the water to crest. But what do we know? We're just a couple of yahus who are being paranoid. So they widened it, and they lowered it, and they had carriage freedom.

And just beautiful. People were, people going to and fro. Well, thank you. This was a great story. Well, here's the thing, though. Some of the people in Johnstown thought it looked a little dicey. Among them, Morel, who would tell Ruff how he felt. Now, the more you read about it, the more it seems like Morel was not necessarily concerned about the safety of the people of Johnstown as much as the safety of his workers and his mills. but he wanted to make sure the dam was okay

but rough one really listening to that because he was focused on the main concern which was the fishing now now sure there were fish in the lake did they import fish well he didn't have fuck you fish so he ordered 1,000 black bass to stock the lake so that's a the bass one for about a buck a piece

so there's a lot of money he's like that's like 30,000 dollars in today's bass Where are you going to get a black bass from? Oh, I got to, are you asking, who he did or how you could get some now? Yeah. I can get you a bunch now. How many do you want? Like 70?

My guy only works in thousands. Oh. So what if you got six to seven thousand? Yeah, I actually do that. I'm where you putting them just so I know so I can totally go. I mean, I haven't probably, I mean, definitely someone be in the bathtub. I don't think you know how many, like, 7,000 baths of times. So you just want, 70, 70 for a tub is a lot, by the way.

I got a lot of, like, buckets. I'm gonna Just be around the yard I'm gonna keep I'm gonna I'm gonna not link you up with him No we got it

I also have Yeah I mean I got other things I can put him in Put what in The black I don't want to hear about the sluice Um So So no no no

Stop talking please Um So uh He wanted to make sure the fish couldn't sneak out though Right What does that even fucking mean? Well because we got the dam.

We got the damn. Everyone's whining about... I thought that the sluces are gone. There's no sluces, but there's still... There's, like... There's still areas for the fish to escape. What are we doing? I agree.

You have every right to be that mad that you threw your empty can of soda on a hotel floor. You have every right. What are we doing? I agree. The fish can just willy-nilly-nilly. Well, listen.

Listen, listen. Okay. It's not what Jesus made dams for. Stop. It has dawned on me that... This is a story of J-Town, and I don't want to get into it. So they installed fish traps, which are iron screens that were covering the opening of the spillway. Okay?

So during higher water times, the screen would be there to prevent the fish from going through. So that way none of the fish are escaping. Everybody went. There would be a fucking asshole. Yeah, I agreed. So I'm trying to think if there are any other issues. Oh. No.

Okay. There was an issue in the middle of the dam because it had broken there before. So there was a sag. They patch it up, right? There was a sag in the middle, which is bad. So patch it up. They patch it up?

No. No, no. The center sagged about four feet lower than the rest of the dam. Meaning that where the dam should have been the highest or the most reinforced, you know, it was actually, it would receive the most pressure

if there was a flood. Well, that sounds like... Which I'm not saying there would be, but if there were, it would be more prone to breaking. It's not going to be a flood, but also that sounds like it's the water's fault?

I completely agree. Again, I mean, the little buck and divot in the middle. Yeah, it's a little... Get over it. It's a doinkey. Hey, did I tell you the carriages can go both ways?

Yeah, okay. Well, there you go. So, yeah, so you just didn't want the dam overflowing in the center. That's right. And the lake was taken from 40 feet. to about 60 feet.

But then again, all good. So pretty, that's a pretty large. That's big. That's a big difference. It's big. Yeah. But it's great. We got a lot of bass.

Fishing is just started. And as I recall. Fishing is like 10 years in. As I recall, you said they're, they built it with like twigs and mud and berries and poop and like string. Some guy threw a rubber band in it. Yeah. Things are good.

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They ignored it. He offered... Wait, he just joined so... Well, I don't know. I don't... My guess is that he joined because he was like, fucking we're rich. This is awesome. But while he was there, he was also like,

dang, this is fucking crazy. I think this is just like a crazy sex getaway, weird, old guy, rich guy stuff, right? No. But, well, I... I bet you there was weird poor. I mean, anywhere where the rich goes, weird shit. You can't, but it's like Davos.

I love listening to, like, people talk about Davos, like, well, you know what I heard from Davos? It's like, yeah, I guess, what? It's like the epicenter of bullshit every year. Um, okay, so, um, so he was like, I'll do the repairs, I'll oversee it. Um, he was ignored, ignored continually. And in 1880, he sent an engineer to go out there and inspect it. His engineer was John Fulton, a mining engineer.

Great guy. Great guy. At front of his show. And a geologist who was working for the Cambrian Iron Company. So he gave his findings to Morel, and on November 26th, he stated to Morel that he did not think the dam was in great condition. And even with the repairs that had been made, and he's air quoting, he didn't find that they were done in a, quote, careful and substantial manner, or with the care demanded in a large structure of this. kind, end quote. Yeah, but these kind of guys are just like,

why do you want to have to be so negative? I think the thing is that if you have a cool kick-ass club and someone comes over with a bunch, you're like, I got some things you gotta do to your damn. It's like, bro, we're banging bears over here. Plus, you know, fuck your regulator.

Yeah, honestly. I mean, what are you doing? Well, a deregulation is what makes America great. That's why you have awesome cabins where you can sick bears on port. Yeah, and then cut to today when every bridge has styrofoam in it. Yeah.

So it's good. It's great. So Morrell handed the report to Ruff, who did reply in a letter. Quote, we consider his conclusions as to our safe course of no more value than his other assertions. You and your people are in known danger from our enterprise, very respectfully, BF Ruff president. Or fuck you. Yeah, fuck you letter. No, fuck out.

Go fuck yourself. But morale will push back in a letter that said, quote, we do not wish to put any obstruction in the way of your accomplishing your object in the reconstruction of this dam. But we must protest against the erection, don't, of a dam at that place that will be a perpetual menace to the lives and property of those residing in this upper valley of the connemon from its insecure construction. In my judgment, there should have been provided some means by which the water would be let out of the dam in case of trouble, and I think you will find it necessary to provide an outlet pipe or gate before any engineer could pronounce this job a safe one. If this dam could be securely reconstructed with safe means of driving off the water in this work as a very desirable one, arrangements could be made to store the water in this reservoir and could be used in time of drought in the mountains.

This company would be willing to cooperate with you. I'm almost done. This company would be willing to cooperate with you in the work and would contribute liberally towards making the dam absolutely safe. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Dude, enjoy the boats. We're hunting. fishing, we bring the girls up on weekends, just shut the fuck up and have a good time. Is that possible?

Him reading it. My joke was Ruff to Klein the Offer and he just texted back TLDR. So yeah, so Ruff was totally like to fuck off. You got a fucking neck beard. You got a neck beard, shut up. I mean, that was a problem. Like, people are just like, why do you have the beer? But a lot of people had that.

No, they didn't. Are you sure? Yes, that's not a style. No, there was others. Horace Greeley? We've done this on the show before. Have we? Yeah, I've commented on my passion for Horace Greeley.

This is the best one of all time. Look at that. Yeah, look at that. That looks on a collar. Dave, look at this man. I see it. Do you? Yeah.

Look at this man. It's off center. But that one's, Horace Greenleys is better because it's bigger. Merrill's just looks like a layer of hair underneath. It doesn't look like a... This is weird. There's no style to it. It's just like, these are...

What do you want to do, gel it? I'm not going to throw Nell-A. looks into his neck beard. Like, do something with it. I mean, look, it... Oh, dude. There's still guys doing it. Oh, come on. What are we doing?

What are we doing? That's awesome. I've never been... So everything in this episode is coming back right now. Look at this one. Oh, fuck. That's like a West Virginia. That's awesome.

This guy's is good. Yeah, this is a good one. It's a bad. It's a terrible thing and people need to be. This one kicks ass. Just stop being a person.

At that point, just be like, I'm not, I'm not, if you want to see these pictures, you can be in this room right now. Good drink. What were you going?

You're not allowed to do that. Okay, so anyways, finally in 1879, the club was ready and it was opened. The, The, uh, wasn't it, open this whole time?

Well, no, it was open for some of this time. Um, but, uh, the club was officially opened. It might have been late in that.

Anyway, the membership fee was $800. That's a lot. And the rules were simple. No shootings on Sunday, which America should bring back. By the time, are we talking about people?

Yeah, yeah, a public school shootings. Yeah. Uh, that's, and you can't do that. No reason's cool.

Uh, and if you didn't own a cottage, you were capped out at 14 days per visit. Yeah, That's fair. 61 Who's Who names were on the membership

roster, among them, Andrew Carnegie. Friend of show. Every now and then, one of the Johnstown pores would get to visit and would return

to tell other people in Johnstown how the rich were living up on the mountain. It was only 15 miles away, but it seemed like another world. It is. Now, there had been

major floods in the area in 1885, oh, come on. 1887, 1888. Oh, Jesus Christ. The one of the one, In 185, the Stony Creek River got three feet higher in under an hour.

Oh, God, you're boringly with this shit. Hey, come on. Lock in. It's just like let people have fun. I'm letting them have fun. Yeah, but you keep bringing up this stuff that brings everybody out. Okay, look, you want me to be honest? I have a bias.

I'm not here to hear fucking shitty stuff. Listen to the dollop for the fun part. I have a vibe. Get into what they're doing in the cabins. Get into the hunting. Let's go. In 1887, the first glory hole was installed in the main concert area. Oh, my God, I'm hard.

So in 1889, Dave, the winter was very tough. There were very high levels of snow, which meant melting in the mountains later than usual that year. Plus, April and May were super rainy. I'm just telling you what. So then you got the snow and then the rain. The rain comes and melts the snow. Can you do this in a Bill Cosby voice? No.

You got the rain and the snow and then the water? That's probably your best rapist impression. I do a better one. So many options now. Trump. Yeah, no. Trump. What am I saying?

You do better Trump. And I love to do it, even when they don't love it. So, super rainy, and there was a lot more water in the rivers than usual. And Johnstown was getting hit, too. But Dave, Memorial Day in 1889, there was a break from the weather. And so the people of Johnstown celebrated. Oh, yeah. They had a big parade that Friday morning.

Reverend H.L. Wait, wait. Was it a parade for another reason or did the weather just break and they had a parade? No, it's from Memorial Day, but they were like, we're not going to be able to do the parade. And then they were like, they were like, get it. Let's go. There's a parade. What was weather prediction like back then?

Nothing, right? You had the almanac, and then some guy would ride into town and be like, It's raining over there! That would be it. That's the best. Oh, shit. But we're going back to that since the case. I know, yeah.

That's fucking amazing. Okay, so Reverend H.L. Chapman said, quote, the morning was delightful. The city was in the gayest mood with flags and flowers and banners everywhere. We could see almost everything of interest from our porch. The streets were more crowded than we've ever seen before. But Dave, sadly, the parade was short-lived. God damn it.

Yeah. Right? Oh, yeah. A heavy storm moved in and cut it all short. Like a big storm. Like big. What are you saying? Like the biggest.

Like it actually was two storms. And they kind of merged and converged and froze right over that area. That's a lot. There's a lot. It was pouring rain. Pouring rain. And at the South Fork Fishing and Hunting Club, well

a little worry was sitting in oh really yeah they were starting to well because they're starting to go this is like hurricane level rainfall the fish might get out well that's certainly a concern but I think they were some of them were starting to go well we didn't think about this this wasn't something that was in the plan

oh this would have written a report should we get the catamaran out or what do you think maybe the steamboat or just a cigar No. So club engineer John Park was woken up by the rain. And when he saw the level of rainfall, he was freaking the fuck out. The Connemah Lake was rising quickly, hoping that it would just stop, which seemed to be the plan, wasn't working. That's a great idea. So he and some of the employees went over there to inspect it. And the water was rising at an alarming level. Around an inch every 10 minutes. So the water had high potential for going over the. the dam center where again, I don't know if you remember. Well, there was a little sag in the middle. But that's what...

I know. That's what I'm saying. It just means that more water... I'm telling you what they're saying. I'm with you. Okay. There's no fucking problem. Yeah.

Everything's fine until it isn't. That's right. And then when it isn't... Blame the slew? Yeah, and then you get sluice problems. But really, at this point, what could they do? They had no sluces. They had no useful spillover area.

and the only hole that was cut in the dam for drainage was now clogged with debris because someone put a fish grate over it. Well, how do you keep the fish in? That's exactly the point that I think we're all making. Thank you. So Park went to Colonel Elias J. Unger who was making all the calls that day

as he was the current club president. So he's got like six phones and he's picking him up. And it's all the guy had. Go ahead. Does this one work? Talk to me, Jimmy. Does it sound like I'm in the room with you? It's all me.

Quit picking up each one. Oh, they should. I'm talking to myself. Hey, it's me again. Hey, this is weird. I'm talking to myself. Hello, it's me. I'm the other one.

Hey, have you seen your mother? Listen, we have multiple personalities, and this is the only way we can engage them. My therapist told us to. They're about the phone. So he goes and wakes up Elias J. Unger, who was now the current club president. I've got to tell you the bad news.

What? Rough died. Oh. B.F. Ruff died. He was now dead. He died in 1887. What he died? Someone, um, someone gave him a stomach to drink at a bar and he drank the whole fucking thing and you can't have two stomachs on one body. Yeah, you know what? You got a, you got to, you can't just slam a whole stomach. Yeah. You can take it in part. So what happened was he drank the stomach that was bad. It replaced his stomach and then he had a bad stomach and he died. That's like what you

That's what like guys doing fraternities You know Stomachug Stormack chug Hear it dude Um So Elias Unger was extremely

Out of his element When he saw what was going on Yeah He knew it was quote serious End quote But he didn't know what to do They kept telling What can you do

It's too late They kept telling Colonel Unger To tear out that Bridge and pull the big Iron Fish screen out But Colonel Unger wouldn't do it Why because he was still like, we might lose fish.

He's like, look, I hear you. Did you not hear? I said blackback. It's really bad. But imagine, imagine if we did that and we were okay and we lost a bunch of fish. I mean, think about it. So with no other option, what do you think they did? Left?

They attempted to build the damn higher. in the middle of the... In the middle of a biblical rainfall. That's a great idea. So they basically were like throwing, like handing down as much earth as they possibly could to heighten the dam. But how?

Well, they're just packed, I mean, yeah, it's not fucking work. It's like guys were picking up dirt. They were handing it to each up. They were doing the bail of the bucket thing. Yeah, they were doing buckets. They were bailing the bucket with like handing each other earth. Build up a dam in the middle of a storm. It went a dam.

And they're really just focusing on the middle part that's like, you know, shitty. Old people are so dumb. Some of these people weren't old. These are like workers helping them. Sorry, rich people. Rich people. But I don't even think John Park, he might have been wealthy. I mean, but he's a good guy.

They're just desperate. Well, and it's all Unger's call. Like, John Park was like, dude, with this fucking crazy. And he was like, oh, shit. All you should do is tell everybody South to get the fuck out. Well, I don't agree. Build a dam. Now you build the dam.

So they maybe bought themselves a foot in the middle, max. And now the water... Well, now the... Unfortunately, the water level was like two feet from the top of the dam center. Oh, my God. So Unger made the brave call, and now he's like, let's get the fish screens out of there. Oh.

Yeah. But it was too late. Has anybody considered firing the water? That's an interesting point. Listen, water, it's just not... You're out. You're out. Dirt, you're in. Because the screen wouldn't budge.

It was so jammed up with all the debris. Yeah, you can't move it at that point. Yeah, it's essentially a wall. Yes, and it's underwater now so far that it's difficult. So Unger was now officially freaked out. Why? Well, I think he's like, not fucked up. So he didn't know what to do.

He basically calls it. He's like, we're done. So they were all tired Apparently right after this He went home and he just fell down He's like, I'm the victim Yeah, well he tried And the water's just fucking him

So like I don't blame him This water's a hunky This is clearly the water's fault This is hunky water Yes This water's hungary And you sweat Now we're getting to it

Oh I wish we had a pony Who could I wish there was a donkey Who could help us right now Anyone Hello? A magic donkey. Hello, he's on the phone.

Get me the donkey. So he calls it. So John Park is like, fuck that. He decides he wants to ride his horse to the telegraph office to alert them asap. To Paul Revere's situation. He, Paul reveres it.

So he got to the office in 10 minutes. He ran over the train yard near the telegraph office, and he shouted to a crowd that the dam was in a bad spot. And quote, take that message to the telegraph office. And it wasn't...

Go ahead. What's the telegraph office going to do? They're going to send a telegraph to all the cities that are down. Okay. Yeah. So, because it wasn't just Johnstown that was in danger, but there's other cities down the Connemar River. And...

There's, below that is a fucked town. Mm-hmm. You're screwed town. You're all going to die town. And there's a whole bunch of them all the way down. I don't... It's really, first of all, you don't know how there's... By the way, they named it poorly.

you were asked for it we're going to be Finesville also gone so but the thing was the people were like who heard it were kind of like chill yeah like everyone like he's shouting

about it but the problem was there had been this level of it's obviously very reminiscent of what we deal with now where it's like shit's not fucked till it's fucked yeah so the

Tribune in Johnstown had been writing about this and had been on the side of like, don't weren't, like, it's fine. So now, if you're a newspaper that's been writing on the side of it, now you can't go, oh my God, it's bad. You have to come. You have to be like, yay, man, you know. Well, you do that. Then, I mean, that's what they do all the time in our media where it's like, they

don't report on it. And then it happens. They're like, how did we get here? What an unbelievable tragedy. I was just reading about people saying that today. Yeah. I'm not like this yeah like that's about what about Trump yeah yeah yeah no I mean like well I always think that's so funny to I mean not funny it's fucking horrible but like like the lead up how they're all like this man should not be the press and then like you know a month and a half later they're like Trump named a puppet as the secretary of state you know and you're just like yeah dude this is why like your fucking journalism you were practicing leading up to this was dog shit. You've one job. So like I said,

the Tribune paper framed this all is largely overblown. So with hesitation, eventually, telegraph operator Emma Aronfield did send the message at 152 p.m. that read, quote, the water is running over the breast of lake, dam and center west side, and is becoming dangerous. End quote. A half hour later, another message was sent, quote, the damage is becoming dangerous and dam may possibly go. So the water was cutting holes in the dam more and more. The pressure was crushing it. The water was cresting at the sagging center of it all.

and then at 3.10 p.m. You know what? When you say a time. Yeah. It's really bad. What? It's just any, in any dollup,

when you say an exact time. You mean it's not me specific, whatever you know the exact time? Never good. Never good? You ain't wrong. At least it's not 3.10 a.m.? No, it's not.

It's not 3.10 a.m., but it is 3.10 p.m. With John Park, Colonel Unger, and a number of other members of the South Fork Fishing and Hunting Club standing by watching. I guarantee one of them out of pipe and it's about. He was like, this thing won't light. It keeps going up. Well, somebody gets me a light that works in the rain. Jebedai, please. Not now. Well, hold on.

How? Oh, I've got an idea. A flame for cigarettes and pipes and whatnot that works in the rain. I mean, look, it's 310 and I can't like this, motherfucker. None of these men better be in a union. He comes over, like, while everyone's about to watch the damn break and he doesn't know what's going on, and he's like, hey, boys, can any of you like this in the rain? What are you all staring at, fellas?

What's got your eyeballs? So, standing by watching, all those guys are standing by watching, the damn broke. and they said... I gotta say, like, that's got to be an amazing thing to see. Well,

just from a... From a standpoint of like, things, unfathomable things to watch. Yes. Well, I said it didn't even

really look like a break. It looked just like one big push. Like a sluice. Like a sluice. Like a big sluice. Within 45 minutes, the lake was empty. The velocity was comparable

to that of Niagara River hitting Niagara Falls. That's a lot. Or in other words, when the South Fork Dam burst, it was like Niagara Falls was running into the valley below and Johnstown for 45 minutes straight. And we actually don't know the full levels of rainfall that morning because the weather observer was about to get killed and all of his notes with him. Oh, what a jackass. But we do know that 16 million tons of water was about to go down the Connemah River Valley. Cool.

And that's the end of the part one. Oh. So. I don't think we need a part. I kind of feel like it's over. I should say, nobody died. It might be the deadliest dollop,

because I feel like you probably wouldn't do this because you're like, Jesus Christ. Let me say that the book where most of those comes from is David McCullough, the Johnstown flood. Also, there is a TV show called I Was There. Also, Uncle Tom's Cabin. We'll post the links to a couple other YouTube videos. But not good.

Not good. Crazy. And it reminds me so much of just what we're watching now with our climate and shit. But you're just like, cool. All right, sweet. Rich people cutting corners never works. Yeah, never work. and they, what do they get you?

They get you fucking. And when you actually have elevation, like, that's some, to some extent we will have a version of, like, it's like they've self-moded themselves in these environments. Like, Mark Zuckerberg has an island where no one can get to. like these advantages of of what you're where you are as far as like damage I mean they just kind of

they make these little forts for themselves because they're like well we're full of shit everyone's gonna die oh I can get to it Zuckerberg that would be a great movie yeah it would be get to Zuckerbirds call it yeah that would be so amazing

like you should be able to make a movie like that now, even though we all know that the reaction was like, you can't do that, you know why? And no one would want to pay for it to make, but so many people would love it. It would be so great. And it would just be like, it would be cathartic for so many people. I think the,

even if right now people are like, dude, in five, 10 years, people would be like, this is the best movie. Yeah. It's like when you watch like George Carlin at the time, you're like, this guy's awesome. Like now people are just like, what the fuck? How did you know everything? It was just like, he was just fucking pissed

Yeah Well, there you go So part two Well, soon Everybody loses Not necessarily The rich guy By the way

I wonder if the trick pony made it I don't know the information I'll try to find out Isn't it a donkey? Oh my God Was that a trick don't No, that was a trick question Oh

It was a trick Trick donkey Okay Trick ass Have you heard Trickass's new album This episode's over I agree. Hey, Dullop fans.

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