The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 681 - The Abernathy Boys - live

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine young explorers the Abernathy Boys. Recorded live in Tulsa SOURCES TOUR DATES OFFICIAL MERCH   Aura Frames - Code Dollop Hims  Factor - Co...de Dollop5Off

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Dollop! Yeah! Woo! Woo! Woo! Uh, it's an American History podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story
Starting point is 00:00:16 from American history to my best friend, Gareth Riddle, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Woo! Woo! Woo! U.S. Come on. Yeah, go on.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Just read the date. We're in. We're already in. It's illegal to backtrack. 3-2-Dave. Go. Ah. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:00:37 January 1904. Year of our Lord. J-Town. J-Town has a new deck coming out. If you want to get a new deck for your boards. What? Skateboards. It's got a new deck coming out.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Leave my personal space now. No, yeah, I'm good. I don't care. It's got some proverbs on it. Good, good. Alleluia. Permission to treat the co-host as hostile? Permission denied.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Permission granted. Thank you very much. The mic just stuck to my other mic. Look at that. I got a double mic. That's fucking insane. This is how I'm going to start doing these from now on. You know, Dave, it's so crazy because the way it used to be is vastly different.
Starting point is 00:01:42 But sometimes there's some similarities. That's insane. That's a strong ass magnet that we have there on our, yeah. Still recording. Teddy Roosevelt was in the White House with friends. Bears. Bears. And he was discussing hunting, which
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm sure about 95% of the time when he's in the White House. Yeah, Teddy signed the bill. You know, pheasants are faster than you think. I don't. I have. I'm also slow. He was discussing hunting when one said, quote, Mr. President, I know a man down in Oklahoma territory who hunts and catches wolves with his hands. Oh, fuck, this is... I'm speaking of none other than catch-em-alive Jack Abernathy.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Well, okay, saying that to him, that would be like saying to Trump, there's a glory hole in the Lincoln bedroom. Or saying to Biden, there's a pudding room. Or saying to Obama, friends is on. Gareth. Tea. Gareth. Tea. Gareth.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Tea. Tea. Everywhere. So, Teddy then told his friend to set up a hunt with catch-em-alive Jack Abernathy. Oh my God. He's catching wolves? With his hands.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I'm aware of... Fuck me. I feel like wolves could outrun him, so there has to be another... We didn't say he chased them and caught them. I didn't say he could outrun a wolf. I said he'd catch it with his hands. So what, he shoots it and then grabs it? No, I didn't say that either.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You know, if you have a gun, it's technically using your hands. It's not a gun. No weapons of any kind. This is one of those riddles where it's like the guy wakes up in the hospital and it's like he's got an empty backpack. And everyone's like, how did he fall so far? It's like, parachute fell out.
Starting point is 00:04:04 But we're in the part where it's like the backpack's empty and he's on the gurney you're trying to trick it no no no no you're trying to trick us and it's and it's working does anybody know what's happening right now we all do Jack would catch wolves and sell them to zoos. He had started working on a cattle ranch when he was seven, riding with cowboys at 11. And at 15, a wolf attacked his dog, and he fought it off with his bare hands.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So he's punching him. And that is how he learned to catch wolves with his bare hands. So what, he's throwing dogs in front of him and then just... Laughter Lure, come here, boy. Laughter So Hunt was set up with the president in April 1905 at the big pasture in Comanche land. Jack was friendly with many, many Native Americans.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Oh, I'm gonna say the name wrong. They call him Catches with Wolves. Laughter These are not great jokes, but you deserve, you could do a little more. But I wonder- You could help. You could, if you know what, I think a little giggle would go a long way. They'd be like, oh, that was okay.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I feel like, but I feel like you're not listening to the story and your brain is just going, come up with Indian names. First of all, I am, there's not much to the story so far other than how the fuck did he do it? I'm gonna say his name wrong, because I said his name wrong in the whole episode we did on him.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Quanah Parker? Quanah? Quanah? A room full of white people afraid to correct another white. You don't know they're all, I'm sure there's some two or three not white people in here. We have a white audience because we're a deeply racist party.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Over there! Hello non-white! How are you? Correct Dave. So Jack and Teddy were early risers, so when they were out on the trip, they spent a lot of time alone together in the mornings and they became good friends. And then... He's the sitting president.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. Okay. And then the day came and they spotted a wolf and Jack took off after it on his white Arabian horse that was named Sam Bass. They chase on the horse and once close, Jack jumps off the horse and lands on the wolf's back. Jesus Christ. So dangerous. Even if you beat up a wolf because you were
Starting point is 00:06:40 rescuing your dog, I still don't think you should be like, I got this. Like for him to get to this point. Well, wait, you haven't heard the magic part yet. And then Jack shoves his gloved hand into the wolf's mouth to keep it from closing. He's fisting a wolf. And the wolf's like,
Starting point is 00:07:05 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. No wolf has ever encountered that before. I had no point in his little wolf babyhood is the mama wolf like, oh, let him put a fist in your throat. He has no fucking, he's like, not ready for this. Yeah. Ah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Oh my God. He has no defense for that. Yeah. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhh oh my god. He has no defense for that. No defense. No. After chasing that wolf for two and a half miles. Teddy quote. This beats anything I've ever seen. A day later, after chasing that wolf for two and a half miles, Teddy, quote, this beats anything I've ever seen. And I've seen a great deal. When you get your hand free, I want to shake it.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Look, even with what we have going on today, if you saw this, you'd be like, I've never seen anything better than that, but that is unbelievable. That's the craziest thing I've ever seen. Yeah. Holy shit. Wow. Unreal. So, because he's so awesome at this kind of shit, Teddy points Jack as the US Marshal
Starting point is 00:08:21 of the Western District of Oklahoma Territory in 1906. Well, he really knows what he's doing, obviously. Yeah, I mean, the guy knows how to catch a wolf. So, it's important. He traveled a lot for the job. Sometimes he would go to D.C. and Jack and his wife, Jesse Pearl, had six kids, four girls, two boys, that's how many kids they had, that's a lot. But then Jesse died of Bright's disease in 1907.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Of Bright's disease? It's kidney shit. Oh, okay. You should have known that because that's happened a lot on this podcast and every single time you say the same thing. Every time. Maybe it's time for you to give a really clear answer.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I promise to forget it again. Jack spent a lot of time entertaining his kids with stories of traveling and going out in the wilderness and whatnot. And one day his boys, Bud... Bug? Beats? Okay. Name Louis, but nickname Bud. Bud, who was nine, and Temple, who was five. That's like five-year-old sure
Starting point is 00:09:28 Decided they wanted to take a journey On their own. Oh, no So in June 1909, they began planning a trip to Santa Fe, New Mexico There how old again five and nine And currently they're living in? Oklahoma City. OK. Well, we did that drive.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, no, I think we saw a temple on the side of the freeway. I think we did. They make a map. They make a map. They drew a map. How else are you going to get there? From someone else's map?
Starting point is 00:10:08 No, you got to make your own. A nine and five year old making a map? Yes. You're not going to end up in New Mexico. They made a map. Alright. Sure. Keep going. And they show it to Jack, and he is shocked,
Starting point is 00:10:27 but he doesn't dismiss the idea outright. Right, good. Well, his wife has just passed away, he's going through a lot of trauma, he's a wolf puncher. So he's... Quote, boys, this is not an easy ride. I'll tell you what, let me think about this,
Starting point is 00:10:44 and I'll let you know tomorrow. The oldest one's nine. I'm gonna sleep on it. Cause you know, they're pretty grown up. The next day he wakes up and he says, Yes. He's obviously gonna say yeah. Yes siree.
Starting point is 00:11:02 What I love is I looked at this one first and I was like, what does the nine year old look like? Only to see the five year old. So he got the Meach Bank accounts and put a hundred dollars in it and they got checkbooks. How long are they? Well, it took us, It took us how long? Nine hours to drive?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yes. Okay, so they're gonna be on horses. Yeah, I'm still flagging the idea that this is happening a lot. What are you gonna do, say no to your kid? Yeah. Oh. That's exactly what you'd do.
Starting point is 00:11:40 It's an interesting idea. You'd go, ah, boys, listen, I thought about it a lot, but you're nine and five and you'll die. And I love you. Your mom just died, so, no. Maybe in 10 years you guys could go, 19, 15, that's pretty good. You guys could go do that then.
Starting point is 00:11:54 If you don't do this, even if I put money in your bank accounts, neither of you will be coming back. So you're just gonna stifle their creativity at a young age. I am, yeah, I'm gonna be a parent. I'm gonna step in and be like, hey, you know what? I don't know if that's being a parent. Yeah, I'm going to be a parent. I'm going to step in and be like, you know what? You don't get to go swim with a plugged in radio. I know it seems like a great idea, but here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:12:13 There are actual rules of society and your age. There was a guy where I grew up who when he was 16, he wanted to go to Yemen and his parents were like, great, go and find yourself. And he went to Yemen and I mean he Ended up in the American Taliban. He's that that's who he's the American Taliban guy But he did find himself and then later on he went over to Afghanistan and fought Yes, case scenario is these kids end up in the Taliban. I think it falls short of that. Okay Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:41 I could fall short of that. Okay. Yeah. He had them take a test trip. He's not crazy. Test trip? He's not crazy. All right, go to Arizona and come back and then we'll see what you're made of.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Look, this is why a mother, they need, he needs a second parent. You can't have a wolf puncher being in charge of the purse of the family. Well, let's go ask our dad who hits wolves with the president. Yeah, it's a good idea. What took so long? You've been walking for three years now. Get going.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Christ. I guess I'm just more of an optimist than you. Yep, absolutely. Yep, it's a long walk. So, they live in Guthrie. Where's Guthrie? Is it near here? Guthrie?
Starting point is 00:13:28 No? Okay. So they take it, so the test trip is from Guthrie to... I don't know if an audience has ever not wanted to answer a question more. I know. Why did that pain everyone?
Starting point is 00:13:37 People are like, bruh. Come on. Come on, come on, come on. They're gonna go from Guthrie to Tipton and back. Okay. Well, no idea where those are, but it's gonna take a four day, it's a four day trip.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So they did it, they did fine. So Jack tried, they come back and he tries to talk them out of going to Santa Fe, but they're pretty set on it. They're nine and five, you don't- They're pretty set on it. There's no talk, no, you don't talk about... You go, no. No, then they're like, yes. Ah, well, shit, I guess I'm outvoted by two children.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Okay, go. Damn it. Wish your mom was here so I could have a tie. What are you going to do? So the day that they're going to leave, he said to him, quote, don't push your horses. And then he said, Bud, carry this with you.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And above all, both of you say your prayers at night. And he gave them a Bible. Let's grieve them now. Bud wrote Sam Bass and temp was on Geronimo, which was a half Shetland pony. Jesus Christ. Now Gareth, Temp is five, so that's pretty big. What, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So he couldn't just mount the horse. He would have to climb up on something like a porch or fence and then get on the horse. And to dismount, he had to do the same thing. But if there isn't anything like a porch or fence, he would slide down Dronimo's left front leg. Like when you're, it's not an awe. Don't, what are you, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:26 No, it's a no, no. Oh, that's cute. He's gonna probably die from horse trampling. There's no stump around here? Well, you know what to do, ride his leg. It's gonna be fine. If these fucking kids die, if they die, I'm gonna blame you, even though you're just reading it.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You've been pushing it the whole time with your little agenda. Because they're two young kids, people would take them in at night and feed them. People would be like, oh, two little kids. Because most people at that time would take you in if you stopped by at a house. They'd feed you. So now it's two little kids. So they're like, yeah, come on in. I get that.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I do get that. But also, tremendous amount of, I mean, there probably are more psychos now. But I mean, that is still crazy. Yeah. You know, there's got to be like, oh, cool. Kids. Oh my God, thank you, Lord. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Today the Lord sent me two boys. Is one of them just like on a horse's leg, like? No, he doesn't ride it like that. He slides down the horse. He doesn't hold on to the leg. So what does he do if he can't? What does he? He's not an idiot.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He's not four. He's five. What does he do if he needs to mount the horse and they're in the middle of nowhere and there's nothing like that? He's got to climb up. I just honestly don't see him up. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:58 You scale it. You scale the horse. Sure. It's half pony. Oh. On the second day, it was very hot, so Temp drank a lot of the local water. Oh, God. What does that even mean, local water? The local, the streams were...
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah, it definitely means it's got a problem in it. It had gypsum in it. It had gypsum in it? Which causes diarrhea. Ah. What? But it's gold nuggets? Great. Oh, that's good. We'll get him on a horse's leg while he's leaky. Quote, Bud forced a big dose of foul tasting
Starting point is 00:17:35 castor oil down my throat. I can't help. I can't help. I know that they were like castor oil helps everything, but that just greases you up more. Look, are we drinking it on the regular now? So, you know what I mean? No. RFK is like bringing that back for sure. Yeah, yeah. You know what? The one thing you got to do is just pound castor oil.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Steak and Shake is now serving pure castor oil. But it only made things worse. Consequently, I had to get down off Geronimo every two minutes all day long. Well, there weren't enough fences for him to get back up, so. One time I slid down Geronimo's front leg so fast that I sprained both my ankles. He probably really had to go, I guess. But, but which one? But is the elder? But is the one who gave him castor oil.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Right, so he's the older brother. Temp is the one who has the diarrhea. Okay, right. So Temp, Temp's the younger one though. Yeah. Okay, right. So the youngest one has the diarrhea, which is great. And two sprained ankles. Yep, now, yeah, of course. But who hasn't sprained their ankles from diarrhea? I mean, good lord. Every time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah. It's tough. You're sprinting. That's the things they say to if you have diarrhea, dehydration, and sprained ankles. Yep, absolutely. You want that. Yep. So they kept moving, and then, you know, they came to a desert, nothing but cactus and tumble weeds. Oh, good. That's where we probably saw the guy laying on the ground.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yep. In Silverton, people had heard about them and so a crowd gathered to ask them questions when they came into town. And he still has the shits? Quote, Bud told them about the Jip water which got me pretty riled up. So, so they, well I mean they are, he is nine so they rolled into town and he tells them
Starting point is 00:19:34 the diarrhea story. Oh my god it's the boys from the, oh my god I can't believe it's the boys. My brother can't stop pooping, he drinks jip water. Oh come on, why you gotta tell them about that? That was our secret. He drank chip water. Oh, come on. Why you gotta tell him about that? That was our secret. Yeah, my horse has poop all over its leg. Yeah, it was mine.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And he sprayed his ankles because he had to poop so much. Oh, come on. I got a reputation to uphold. I mean, yeah, I think exactly like that. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine being five I mean, yeah, I think exactly like that, yeah. Yeah. Imagine being five and having,
Starting point is 00:20:10 not outside of riding a horse on your own to New Mexico, which is obviously fucking ludicrous, but to have the humility to be like, oh, come on, I'm embarrassed. Well, you don't want to hear people. But he's in a different world. But no one wants, it doesn't matter what time period you're in, nobody wants to be like, this guy had diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Nobody wants that. Imagine being five, do you remember being five years old with diarrhea? I don't. Yeah, I do. Well, that's fucking crazy. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. Must have been fucking biblical because to five-year-old diarrhea is crazy in the chapter of the book of my diarrhea There is not one chapter where it's five and if it is it's like in the middle right before the pictures
Starting point is 00:20:54 Shut yeah, no fight the first chapter is I'm five here we go All right pony up Okay. Okay. Sure, all right. Pony up. So next they ride into New Mexico and- They're fucking there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I cannot tell what is happening anymore. We started on a wolf puncher with the president. Now we got these two boys, they made it. So they spent the night in a roofless abandoned adobe. The next day, scorching hot, their canteen water was boiling hot, so it didn't refresh them. Temp quote, I had resigned myself to just dying in the desert. Okay, can we just admit that the dad made an awful decision? No!
Starting point is 00:21:41 Yes. They're learning about life! They should be dead.. They should be dead. They absolutely should be dead. Life is not easy and they're learning that. Oh my God. I mean, is he not worried? Is he not at home like,
Starting point is 00:21:53 boy that was fucking crazy. I mean, I'm sure he's- Those boys are gone. I'm sure he's worried, but he's also, you know, busy putting his fist down wolves. Yeah, I guess he's got a job. And then Bud saw a buggy in the distance, so they run across a traveling salesman
Starting point is 00:22:09 in the middle of the desert. And he gives them water and he tells them there's a nearby watering hole. It ain't chip water, is it? Because this one... My brother can't have it. I can for some reason, but oh boy. Goes right through him. Yeah, he just ends up making jip water himself. So they go to the water hole and that night they sleep by the water hole. And they're surrounded by wolves. This is the final time to see
Starting point is 00:22:41 if it's nature versus nurture. Let's fucking cook. He just puts his fist in it and the wolf just swallows him all. Oh no, temple. Got him. And they would have to keep stoking the fire. And to do that, Bud would hold the shotgun and shoot it. And then Temp would go grab some wood while the wolves were scared to put on the fire.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And sometimes he'd just shoot the shotgun to scare the wolves away. And then they'd just, the wolves would come back and be like, Yeah, but that was their night. Cool, just normal five-year-old stuff. The next day they rode into Roswell where once again everyone was waiting for them.
Starting point is 00:23:35 They stayed that night with the newspaper editor. Oh, they stayed several days with the newspaper editor. And then when they moved on, they were caught in a storm. And that night they had to spend a night in a cave. The next day they get out and they're heading on their way and then they see a herd of donkeys but they're lady donkeys and there's one Jack there and he sees them and he's like fuck you and he chases the boys because he wants to keep him away from his herd of lady donkeys. Sure, we've all been there.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So the Jack chases Temp and Temp is getting away and the Jack is trying to bite him. So they both flee and then in the escape, they get away from it eventually, but now they're lost. They don't know where they are. Okay. They're off their drawn map. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:28 No, yeah. It's like a map you would find at like, like an island's restaurant. Like a little map for the kids, like, there's the treasure, I got that with my crayon. They're like looking at that, like, we're way off course. Where the fuck are we?
Starting point is 00:24:47 Well, they're in Navajo country. Okay. We're not really excited about white people. Oh. So they're a little scared. And then they realized that the previous day when they were in town, they forgot to buy food. How the fuck?
Starting point is 00:25:04 I know they're nine and five. So I'm not trying to youth shame. But you are also out on your own trying to get to New Mexico on horses alone. Forgetting food seems stupid. Well, they didn't forget candy, so that's what they ate that night. You know why? Literally my dream is happening.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I can't tell where I am at anymore. But that's because they're nine and five. Yeah, of course. Don't forget all the food groups. I got peppermints, a vegetable. The next day when they rode into Vaughan, they got their food. And then two more days, they were in Santa Fe. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:25:52 So they made it. Shocking. Yes. By the way, they've aged up. Yeah, and he went through it all, he's got a son with him. This is my boy, Tim Jr. The governor was a former Rough Rider who knew their father. Sure. And he wires Jack and says, quote, the kids are here and fat as pigs, come on out. So Jack gets on a train and he gets there.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He says he's very proud of them. Yeah, I get being proud of them. Yeah, especially when he heard about the wolves in the water hole, like that's exciting. But without question, child services should be waiting for him at the train station. Where are my boys? Can we talk to you here real quick?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Your boys are fine, Jack, and that's the good news. Against all odds, they're fine. Huh? Where are they? That night, they had a little get together and the boys sang, Not No One. As someone played piano, it had the lyric, Jesus knows all about our struggles. Temp accidentally pronounced that shuggles, and everyone laughed. Because he's five. He's five.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He's five. He's fucking five years old. Oh, his tongue should catch up with his brain. He just rode a horse from Oklahoma. Where's the exciting thing? They're gonna ride back. I was thinking about that, and that had crossed my mind at some point,
Starting point is 00:27:29 that they have to go back. This would be a perfect opportunity for Jack to be like, that was awesome. Boys, it's a lot. I don't think you should do the ride back. Because let me tell you why. Nobody would be telling this story on a show in the future unless it was fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So as they prepared to leave, the governor asked... How long are they chilling before they go? They're there for like a week or so. A week? Oh my God. I went to soccer camp for two weeks and I was like, I'm in hell. All right, we should get going. I want to get back before I'm 10.
Starting point is 00:28:06 So they're getting ready to leave, and the governor asks if they have a gun. And Bud says... What are you, a cop? You got to tell us if you are. We're not taking bullshit from nobody, mister. My dad will punch through your throat until it comes out your asshole. Damn, chill out your asshole.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Damn, chill out boy. Sorry. We got tightknife sacks and no room for bullshit in them. You have to excuse my brother, he's become a big gruff on the road. Bud said, yep, shotgun. And the governor asked, would you use it against a man if you had to, Bud? Hey, can we, can you come here real quick? Do you have kids?
Starting point is 00:28:53 Come here. Let me sidebar with you real quick. I'm just making small talk with the boys. Now if you killed him, would you eat his brain if you had it? What if it tasted real good and I gave you a pot you could cook in it? What if I told you when you eat a man's brain you know everything he does? Would you find that strange? Would you buy it? What if I said this? I'm gonna come with you boys. Huh? Huh? Come on. No shirt. I'll just pootin' it on a horse the whole way. What do you think, huh?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Bud said, well, Dad told me if someone came at us to draw a bead on him and tell him to stop or else. And what if he didn't stop? He told me to protect Tempon myself, so I guess I pull the trigger if I have to. And the governor said, that's good, Bud. Shoot that motherfucker. Bud, let's take that bag of stuff. If you just see a person, I want you to blow his fucking head off.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Holy fuck. So Jack rode with them to Vegas, and then he hopped on a train. Bye, boys! I know it's not the Vegas of today. All right, boys, I'll leave you in Vegas. Don't worry, you got this. So the boys have to go through the mountains,
Starting point is 00:30:20 and while they're doing that, they come across a camp of men who are branding cattle in the mountains, as men are prone to do. This is like a boyhood odyssey. Ha ha! So these guys take in the boys and they feed them, and they got like a little cabin and everyone sleeps on the floor. Cool.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And the next day, they leave and they're following the Canadian River, American River now. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Nice try Canada. Yeah. You had a good run, but shut the fuck up. Ha ha ha ha ha. We saw what you did and we don't care for it. Not a bit. Lot of entitlements.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So at some point the boys see some cowboys following them, but the cowboys really keep on their distance. And then a sandstorm hits. And they can't see anything. Bud has lost his goggles, so Temp loans him his goggles. So Bud can lead them through the sandstorm. Look, again. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Well, it's just, I didn't realize they had goggles. And now, now it's just a little stranger that there's two complete children with land goggles on. Do you know why he lost his? Say it, why? He's nine. Yep. He's nine years old.
Starting point is 00:31:44 No, no, no, absolutely very valid. He's nine years old. No, no, no. Absolutely, very valid. Nine years old. Yeah, he's a nine year old child. Yeah. Without question. Yep. You forget stuff like that. Kids forget a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:52 That's probably why you don't put them on solo missions to go to New Mexico with that. Through the mountains. Well, I guess I want my boys to grow up weak. I'm Gareth Reynolds. By the way, if I was a parent, I'd be very inclined to be like, go, Gareth Reynolds. All right. All right. By the way, if I was a parent, I'd be very inclined to be like, go, go, go. All right, summer at me. So they gotta get through the sandstorm.
Starting point is 00:32:14 They can't see anything. So Bud puts on the goggles so he can guide them and he's like holding on to a tent and they're just kind of stumbling through the storm and then they just happen to come across a building. This is fucking crazy. And it's a livery stable and so they put the horses in and then it's a town and they stay in the town and the next day when they get up the sandstorm is cleared and it's just three buildings. That's the town. That's the lunch. So they just, I mean
Starting point is 00:32:43 essentially they're alive because- The map is right. I knew there'd be a town here. It's crazy. So they finally get back to Oklahoma and Jack meets them outside Oklahoma City and they all ride in together and everyone's excited. There is a marching band, a big procession, people are lining the streets, flag waving, fire trucks there, it's ringing its bell, the mayor asked them to speak. Please, please, why don't we start with the five year old?
Starting point is 00:33:14 Speech, speech five year old. Well, temp gets on top of the fire truck, and his speech is- A lot of motherfuckers didn't think we could pull this shit up. So to all my haters, why don't you kiss me where the chip water comes out of? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So Temp gets on top of the firetruck and this is his speech. I love firetrucks! Boo, this kid's staring. What the, what? The fuck is he talking about? It's because he's five. Still, we came all the way, I took off work. News speech. I also love firemen. So some people are shocked.
Starting point is 00:34:18 At? Well they're horrified that two boys rode to Santa Fe. That is so good to hear that there are some people that are like, wait, what are we celebrating? What's going on? Wait, we're happy about this? We're having a parade for, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, arrest that man.
Starting point is 00:34:34 They did it. This is the story of America. No, that's crazy. That one is five. I know, that's why you should be arrested. He just stopped wearing diapers. Isn't that crazy? Here he is giving a speech on a fire truck.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah, so a woman yells. Oh no. Hey, Tamp. A woman yells at Tamp, asks him where his mother is and how she could allow this. And he's like, quote, my mother is dead. Well, this event is not great anymore. Let's all go home and think about how bad we all handle today. So then the woman hugged Temp
Starting point is 00:35:18 and she then said his dad was crazy. Stop talking. They made it didn't they? Was there a third? I feel like there was a third on the journey. Okay, yeah, just the two. Thank God. So that night at home, Jack showed the boys a letter
Starting point is 00:35:49 that was written with bullet lead on a brown paper sack. Come here boys, I wanna make this experience even fucking crazier. Just to ensure you're totally damaged. I'll show you the one written in blood later. So the cattle camp where the guys were branding the cattle. They were wrestlers and Jack had recently been in a shootout with them and so they wrote this on a brown paper sack with bullet lead.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Quote, don't like one hair on your head, but I do like stuff that is in these kids. We shadowed them to the worst parts of New Mexico to see that they were not harmed by sheep herders, mean men, or animals. And Jack said, that means that there is good in all men and that most people are willing to lend a hand. So the boys are not home long.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Sure. This is what I thought was gonna happen. What? Well, they've now gotten the taste. So you can't go back to being like five and nine again. They'd love to travel. You can't go back to school and just be like, so what did everyone do this summer?
Starting point is 00:37:10 Well, my mom and I built a pool and I was swammin' it all summer. What about you boys? We fucked America up. If America was a wolf, we'd put our fists in it. If America was a wolf, we'd put our fists in it. What? Yeah, they can't go back to normal life now.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Well they asked their dad if they can ride to New York City. New York City? It's not a crazy ass. Yes it is. No, no, no, Dave, Dave. It's not. No, no, no, Dave, Dave. There's... Dave, Dave, Dave, you're in too deep, buddy. No, no, no, Dave, Dave. No, no, no, Dave, Dave. Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, you're in too deep, buddy.
Starting point is 00:37:46 No, no, Dave, Dave, this is called deprogramming and you need it. It is a crazy ask. No, because- They are nine and five, my buddy. There's a reason. Buddy, I'm trying to help you here. There's a reason.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Because they are damaged beyond repair. Ted. Their father has failed them, the mother is not in the picture. Teddy is, yeah, sure. Oh yeah, sure, thank you. Honestly, the way you were looking there, Dave. That's me, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Thanks, man, appreciate it. What's your name again? Sorry. Roscoe. Roscoe's a comedian here. You should come and see him, he's very funny. And then for those of you who paid for the meet and greet, Roscoe's gonna beat Luke up after the show. So that could be... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah. Whoa. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Just liquid death shoots out of Luke. Oh! Roscoe just shotgunned Luke. All right, it's not crazy because? Teddy is on a safari in Africa and he's coming back after, because when he did safaris in Africa they were like a year. He's just coming back.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Why is the president? He's not the president anymore. He's the president. He's not the president anymore. He's off president. And Jack had planned to be there to meet, because everyone's, it's like a big thing. He's coming back. He's going to come into New York. There's going to be a big parade for him. There better be a detail in here that makes the kids going there alone not crazy, because
Starting point is 00:39:19 we haven't heard it yet. And so what better idea than to have the kids there? No, no, no, no, no, you got... And they've proven they can make it to Santa, they're fine. By the way, your line of thinking is like as good as a five-year-old's map of the country. How you got there, that doesn't make any difference. I let Finn take one of those kid Ubers once
Starting point is 00:39:40 because he had to get somewhere. Uber kid is like the worst thing I've ever heard. Is that fucking real? It's the same thing as this. Uber kid is like the worst thing I've ever heard. Is that fucking real? It's the same thing as this. Uber kid? Yep. Jesus Christ. I never saw my boy again.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Every dad's just Liam Neeson now. I mean, he was 14 and I married him carrying a machete. All right. There's a reason why we don't use personal lives on this show. And I think you're letting that leak out a little bit. But that's still no reason for them to go horseback. Are they going horseback?
Starting point is 00:40:10 They made it. Are they going horseback? Yeah. Are they drawing a map again? Well, of course they are. How else are they gonna get there? Are they still nine and five? They're still nine.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I think he might be six when they start, but probably five. He's getting younger? Oh no, okay, yeah, the five year old, okay. I thought maybe he went through some sort of wormhole on the journey or something like that. No, it might be five still. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:40:31 By the way, that's not the one who I was hoping had a birthday. 10, once we hit double digits, there's maybe a modicum of like, you know, that makes a little more sense. The one is six. Six isn't terrible just because five. Well, six, travel in age.
Starting point is 00:40:49 No, it isn't. Nowhere has that been established by any metric. That's when six is the year when they're like, time to hit the road. Well, six, it's your travel birthday. We'll see you when you're eight. All right, go to Winnipeg.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Bye bye. It's like the Amish when you when you're eight. All right, go to Winnipeg. Bye bye. It's like the Amish when you get older and they go, go out and do your year of... It's your rumspringer. It's your rumspringer, except in this case, a six year old boy. Absolutely. I tried methamphetamine on my journey.
Starting point is 00:41:19 What? I was on a rumspringer. So they harassed Jack. They really got to work. Like it's like when the Simpsons, when they're like, can I get a, what is it, can I get a, they keep asking him for, can we go dad? Can we, they want to go somewhere. Are we there yet?
Starting point is 00:41:36 No, no, they're asking if they can go somewhere. Like, can we go there? Can we go? And he was like, yes, okay, you can. So it's a 2000 mile journey. If you're in Australia, that's 3, you can. So it's a 2,000 mile journey. If you're Australian, that's 3,200 kilometers. And they're gonna go by themselves as they should. Now, let me tell you, shush. When we drive a lot, and let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:41:56 when you enter the address in Waze and you see 2,000 miles, you go, oh fuck, this is gonna suck. Oh my god. And that's driving. You know what I usually think though? No, don't, this is gonna suck. Oh my God. And that's driving. You know what I usually think though? No, don't, no you don't. I wish I was five.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Anytime that comes up. You could just ride horses there. I wish I was five. I wish I was five and on a half pony. If without ways, well we're completely lost. I don't know where we are at all here. We are nowhere near New York. We're going to die out here. I guess at this point there's probably roads and paths. And still, it's, but to draw, it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Not that hard, because there's not a lot of places, so you just do a line. That's not great news that there's not a lot. You're saying that's a benefit. So you're me and they're like, I'm six and you're like, you're going to go from Oklahoma City to New York City. That's a shocking statement. Then I just, I just, Oklahoma City here and I go, whoo, and then New York. And Jack just looks at that and he's like, boy, you guys have really done your homework. That is exactly where you're going. And that's where we are.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Holy shit. We got a little Lewis and a baby Clark. Daddy, I drank more chip water last night. Well, I don't really care. I may as well have a ghost dad at this point. Why don't you just drink some gold? Who gives a shit? We had five so we could let two go.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So for the trip they got new boots and hats and saddles and blankets. They got bedrolls, they had bacon. Bacon? Yep. Sure. Roast bacon. Absolutely. That's what you did back then. So they have to go into Indian territory, which would scare most people, but Jack knew tons of Native Americans because he is the guy who puts his fist on wolves' throats. Sure. That's really coming in handy. And so they stop at Quanell Parker's house first,
Starting point is 00:44:09 and they're treated like celebrities. Everybody loves them. They go to Arcadia, and the sheriff is waiting for them, and he's their escort and their guide. In hominy, they met Deputy Wiley Haynes, who would work with Jack. So they're meeting, they're- What is the distance between-
Starting point is 00:44:28 Does it matter? Yeah. Because it's what happens in your heart. No, but we're talking tremendous distances in between these places. Yes. Okay, great. Sure.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I mean, we drove from Oklahoma City to Tulsa. Oh yeah, it's fucking horrendous. It's like, it's an hour and a half for them. It would have been a fucking day, right? Like, that's like, yeah. Eating bacon? I have some more bacon. Thank god we have nine pounds of bacon for the journey.
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Starting point is 00:51:51 Thank you. Thank you. So this guy Wiley Haynes is, he used to be one of Jack's deputies and while they're there, they go out the next morning and Geronimo is down. Geronimo's down? Oh, no. He's foundered. He's what? Foundered.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Oh, no. Pfft. He's foundered. I forgot what... Our worst fears are coming true when a horse gets found. Go ahead and tell everybody what it is. It's the opposite of lostard.
Starting point is 00:52:32 That's right. That's right. Does anybody, a horse person here, want to tell us what a... Is anyone a centaur, Dave's asking? It just goes down, but there's more to it, right? It just, it just like, it's like, it can't, it can't like go anymore. It's like a done as a horse.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Like it's like when your carburetor blows or whatever. Is that the right thing? What? What? Without question, the hardest that guy's had to die. That guy knows cars and his brain just fucking exploded. When you're fucking, carburetor don't blow you, California, fuck! You blow my California carburetor.
Starting point is 00:53:17 He's crying. He's laughing. He's crying. This guy cannot believe it. Sir, what do you do for work? Not this. He's crying. He's laughing. He's crying. This guy cannot believe it. Sir, what do you do for work? Not this. That's a crazy answer.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Alright. I think we know who's shitting their pants tonight. We found our chair shitter. Holy shit. That's so good. It just laughed so hard. Oh my God. Trying to be a man. Your carburetor blows up.
Starting point is 00:54:00 He's gonna tell his friends for a year. And then this son of a bitch is up on stage. He's gonna tell his friends for a year. And then this son of a bitch is up on stage and he's talking about a horse fight and he's like, when the carburetor blows and all, but he's like, what the fuck? Did you storm out? This show does sound funny.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I listened to an episode and it wasn't. But that's a good bit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. So it's like when the engine goes out on a car. Goes out, what the fuck? Then your horse doesn't work anymore. He's like, you're closer but still a fucking moron. They can recover, often they don't, but basically he can't do the fucking journey. Sure. But he's not dead. Cool. Like they don't like put him down. No, God did. So they put him on a train back. They put him on a
Starting point is 00:55:01 train? Yeah and he went back to Jack. What? I mean, I'm all for it, obviously. They put the horse on a train and sent him back to Oklahoma City. See, unfortunately, he blew his eardrums with his laugh, so he can't even hear the show anymore. Put it on a train. Although maybe that's just a lie they told and they actually just killed him with a bat in a field.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I mean, because the... Because you don't want to be like, the story shouldn't be like a six-year-old beat a horse to death in a field with a bat. So maybe you paint a better picture for the audience. Sure, well, it doesn't matter what you were trying to paint because now you talked about a six-year-old fist killing a horse. Oh, he coulda ice-picked it.
Starting point is 00:55:47 You know exactly what he did. The horse was just like this, and he was like, poof. Fist in. And then it was just skeleton guts, and he threw him on the ground. He put his fist in the horse and pulled out the horse's skeleton? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm six! Yeah. Yeah. Now you're zero horsepower. Ha ha ha ha! I just blew his carburetor out. Ha ha ha ha! Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:56:20 So they paid $85 for a new horse. Okay. Wow, don't grieve. All right. They named him Wiley Haynes after the deputy because that's where they were. Sure. Could get confusing, but whatever. And then they got back on the road. Why wouldn't you? Yep. Get back on the horse again. In Joplin, Missouri, a reporter interviewed them and they stayed with the mayor. So they're like big shit now, wherever they go. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Everyone knows about them. Yep. At one point in Union, it's snowing and Tampa's so cold he can't get off his horse and has to be helped down. So it's not all easy. He froze to his, I didn't think it was. I'm afraid the children are going to pass away. He froze, he's freezing to death on his horse.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yes. What are you saying yes like that for? Because he's a badass motherfucker. You look up to a six-year-old. He's ready for all. He can handle all the shit you throw at him. I don't know. Water took him down.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Except a book or whatever, but everything else. He got Giardia pretty bad from river water. In St. Louis, they finally wire Jack and they say they're okay. So they're full on celebrities at this point. Which is also unhealthy. This is all unhealthy. No, it's great. But now they're also going from town to town and people are like, yay. But isn't that the safest thing for them? No. To be celebrities? No. No, I'm saying for the trip.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Or else some guy could just grab them and put them in his child dungeon. Which is like half a New Jersey. It's good that people are helping them, but they are, none of this is good. This is all unhealthy. Well, wait till the end. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:58:09 So they get a car tour in St. Louis. So it's the first time they've been in a car and they're just complete. They just love it. They can't get enough of a car. I'm glad Geronimo died. They keep heading east. Now every town they go to there are more people waiting to see them. It's just bigger and bigger news. Quote, apparently folks were fascinated by two small boys riding across the country.
Starting point is 00:58:37 We didn't understand all the fuss. Yeah, it's crazy. They got another big tour in Cincinnati. When do they get a wellness check? Does that happen? There they got to spend the night in a fire station. And in the middle of the night there was a house fire and the firemen took them out to the fire.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Well, sorry boys, sometimes we rescue people, but you didn't see that one tonight. That must have been horribly graphic for two young boys. What were they screaming about? They were trying to get help and we couldn't get to them. What did that one lady say at the end? Well, she was saying all the bad things she did because she felt she was going to see the Lord real soon.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Now, what's y'all's favorite flavor of ice cream? Who likes chocolate? Who likes vanilla? We only got two now. Oh, shit. In Dayton, Ohio, the police chief made them deputies and gave them small billy clubs. Literally, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:59:56 There you are, boys. Would you like to beat a prisoner? We only have one who's pending trial, but we're pretty sure he did it. I mean, he's not even old enough to wear pants. It's a pleasure to meet you, officer. And then he gave a billy club. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I mean, they're small billy clubs. Don't get me, for the little officer. They also got a tour of the Wright Brothers factory by Wilbur Wright, because that's where their factory was. Jesus Christ. So that's fun. Look at that. So they're getting, this is a great time.
Starting point is 01:00:29 They had a little bit of trouble in Dayton because they're trotting on their horses and a boy runs up beside them and he keeps swearing at them. Fuck. You fucking shit fucking fucking assholes. Shitty assholes. You fucking shit. Fucking fucking assholes. You little shitty assholes. You fucking bitches. Some of you piss on you fucks. Some of you piss on you fucks. You're assholes.
Starting point is 01:00:55 You're dipshits. And they tell him to stop. Shut the fuck up, I'll keep doing what I want. First fucking amendment, you little bitch. Shut up, you asshole. They said they didn't want. Dickhead, hey, dickhead. They didn't want, you asshole. They said they didn't want... Dickhead, hey, dickhead. They didn't want to fight him.
Starting point is 01:01:08 They said they didn't want to fight him. Oh, fuck you. You fight me, I'll fight you. And then he called them yellow-bellied. You, oh, what? Apparently I don't have the worst mouth, actually. You yellow bellies. Then he grabbed Temp's boot and tried to pull him from the saddle. Quote. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. I'm a man of my own. Oh! Oh! You're officially a cop! Oh, Jesus. That billy club came in so fucking handy. And then the boy got up and ran away. Ah!
Starting point is 01:01:58 That moment, it's just gotta be so awesome. These things are great. Boy, this is another memory that'll haunt adult me. What a terrible precedent for me. My brain's still forming a lot. It's gonna be forming for another 20 years. Yeah. If I make it then.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Ha ha ha. Uh, after five weeks they get to D.C. and they go to the Raleigh Hotel where reporters are waiting. One went up to their room with them while they bathed and changed. Hey! I got an issue to talk about. Are you gonna wanna guess what it is?
Starting point is 01:02:45 It's the reporter who talked to him while they were naked bathing. Well, that's awesome, boys. I'm really doing it in kind of an in-depth story. You guys okay by getting the bath with you? This is actually a podcast called Tubbin' with the Guest. And I'm Uncle Larry, the host. It's called Bath Time with Bubbles, and my name is Bubbles Johnson.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Who are your inspirations? Besides your dad. Ha ha ha ha ha. Uh... At some point... Adults says this isn't okay. Temp... At some point, Temp asked the reporter for a cigarette. I'm not, I am not surprised at all.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Got a smoke? What kind? Yeah, that'll do. I go, I feel, no, non-filtered. I don't want any of that fucking crap. You know where we could get some cocaine? It's D.C. Let's get the party going. Oh, no, non-filtered. I don't want any of that fucking crap. You know where we could get some cocaine? It's D.C. Let's get the party going. These are good cigarettes. I'm going to have them all. What do you mean? Sleep, bitch.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So the reporter says no. Can't have a cigarette. And then Temp says, quote, oh, come on, I never tried one. Let me have a puff. Well, okay. That's what he did. He said, yeah, he's like, all right. Well, you make a good case. Well, I guess your parents have completely abandoned you.
Starting point is 01:04:20 One, because she passed away and the other, because he stopped caring. There you go. Oh my God. So, he takes one big inhale, quote, I coughed violently. I was dizzy. My eyes burned and I thought I might throw up any minute.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Completely miserable. I lay on the floor. Well, that's pretty much my first experience smoking, and I smoked for like 20 years. What were you, five? I was like 11. First time I had one, I was like, Jesus, never again. All right, I'll do one more.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And then he said he didn't want to go sightseeing with Bud, but Bud's like, well, I'm going. So he got it together. All right. I'll try. And then they met Taft. Then they what? They met Taft, President Taft, after sightseeing for three days.
Starting point is 01:05:12 A bathtub, huh? Why, that's not a bad idea, boys. President Taft, you're like 40 of me. I'm gonna have you thrown in Guantanamo Bay. So they go to the White House, they meet in the Oval Office, they talk for a bit, but quote, I asked him how the government was doing. Stay out of my ass and I'll stay out of yours.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Hey Taft, got a cigarette? I can't do anything without my coffee and that in the morning. Taft offered to get them on a cutter to greet Teddy when his ship came into the harbor. And Temp said, quote, that's a bully idea. And then they all laughed. Yeah, he's doing a Teddy catchphrase. Teddy, that's a bully idea. And then they all laughed. Because that's a... Yeah, he's doing a Teddy catchphrase. Teddy. That's a bully idea.
Starting point is 01:06:07 That's so funny. It's coming from a five year old who rode a thousand miles across the country. They visited the Senate and House where they were asked to speak. What's the difference? What's the difference? What's the difference? What's the difference?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Temps said, quote, I'd like the Washington Monument, and I'd like St. Teddy's African animals and visiting the president. I think this is the finest city in the East. Right? That's drop the mic shit. Yeah. Well, I still don't think it's a plan for democracy. What I wanna do, oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Just walking around. So then they ride from DC to New York, and that's just, that's a very populated area. So it's like one big parade, that whole journey. And people are lining the streets and they're cheering the whole way and they're walking beside them and they're asking them questions.
Starting point is 01:07:21 They're pretty overwhelmed, because they're five and nine. Yeah, it's just absolute sensory overload, and it's also super weird for adults to be like, I'm meeting my hero today. He's five, you fucking loser. Oh boy, what's it like to be so cool, Tim? You're like 38.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I know, I have nothing, I have nothing. Oh. You're like 38. I know. I have nothing. I have nothing. Ow. At 8 p.m. they arrived in Trenton, New Jersey and a big crowd greeted them. Oh my god. It's like if Jipwater became an area. Jack was there waiting for him at the hotel. Oh wow, what a dad. Hey boys, you've got a babysitter.
Starting point is 01:08:15 The next morning he went ahead in a car though, but... Hey, good to see ya. Good to see ya, Trump and the other one. In Jersey, people lined the streets cheering and they took a ferry from Jersey City with their dad. That's nice. That is nice. He's there for the glory.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah, of course, yeah, he's like, that was great. Where you boys gonna go next? You can't come home. I turned your rooms into a gym and an office. A huge crowd is waiting for them in New York City. There's 17 mounted police. The police chief escorts them. Cops have to clear a path through the crowd at the hotel.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Just fucking beating people. Get out of the way, there's a five year old coming through. There's legends coming you idiots. People took souvenirs. They yanked their hair out of the horse's tails, which made the horses jump. Temp got angry and said, quote, the next one to try it is going to get my quart.
Starting point is 01:09:19 His quart? Quart? Oh, that's a whip? Yeah, he's going to whip somebody. Oh, I thought that was the sound it made when he was climbing down the horse. Ha ha ha ha! And then a woman, after he said that, reached up and yanked hair out of Temp's head. Gotta get a souvenir.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah, no, she was listening too, that's cool. And then a cop grabbed Temp and put him on his shoulders and walked him into the hotel. Tampon, once in the hotel, went down to the basement barber and had all his hair cut off. So what's the deal here? We're just done giving any parenting at this point? It's fine?
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah. Yeah, he's just like, whatever. He got them this far. I'm going to get a tattoo. On my Geronimo. I'm gonna get a tattoo. On my Geronimo. I'm gonna get a spider on my face. I'm gonna get a whole spider on my face. Well, that's a good idea, Temp.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I can't stop you. Don't get a wolf or I might put my fist through your mouth. We're the best family ever. We're our sisters. You what now? Oh God. Oh my God. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Oh no, I put them on a submarine a year ago. Completely forgot. The next morning, the lobby of the hotel is packed. Outside, a newspaper boy showed them their picture on the front page and Bud said quote, I'm sick of seeing my picture in the paper. Oh, so he's fucking jaded? I'm sick of seeing my face in the paper.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Jesus Christ, they can't even get high anymore. Nothing gives me the fix. I'm fully Robert Downey Jr. I can't handle this. They're over being celebrities. They told their dad that they'd ridden a car and they begged him to buy one. Go to the mayor's office. Where would you want to drive it?
Starting point is 01:11:18 They go to the mayor's office. There's a ton of reporters waiting for them. They go to a Broadway show and the singer sings a song about them. To hear that song. Oh, god. Just be the worst. Well, champion button. So on the day Teddy arrives, the entire city comes out.
Starting point is 01:11:39 They ride with Jack on the cutter to meet his ship. And hundreds of ships are in the harbor. They're blowing their horns and their whistles. One ship does a 21-gun salute, and then another one does a 21-gun salute, and then another one does a 21-gun salute. So it's just funny. There's actually people cut.
Starting point is 01:11:56 There's an enemy flying over. This is get down. We are officially at war. We've been attacked. Once on land, Teddy gave a speech and people want him to run for president again, which he does do, but that's like, that's why they're all excited.
Starting point is 01:12:11 He greets the boys and Jack and then they ride their horses in the parade right behind Teddy's carriage and right ahead of the rough riders. Jesus Christ. So the parade is five miles long, and there's a million people. Oh my God, it's insane.
Starting point is 01:12:30 At one point, someone yelled out, Bully for you, Teddy! And then thousands of people start yelling bully for you. How does one person, nobody was yelling before that? That's a good idea. Yeah, no, no one was.
Starting point is 01:12:42 People are just like, shh. Bully. What a great app. Yeah! Bully! This is hilarious! So the plan is to take the train home. I think they can't do that. What are they going to do? Sit there and play checkers? It's crazy. Well, they got the car bug. And they start begging Jack to buy them a car.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Buy them a car? And let them drive it back. This is... Okay. Because... I think I did mention that as a hypothetical lunatic thing to do. There is no legal driving age as of yet. Well that's a crazy thing too.
Starting point is 01:13:33 There's no legal driving age? Isn't it insinuated that it would be like 25? No. No, obviously not. Because if you can reach the pedals and the wheel, you're good to go. But they can. You're good to go. They also can't do that.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Jack says there's no car small enough. Which is a great reason. I'm just waiting for how they figure out to put them in a car. So for two days, they are looking all over New York for a car that would fit them. So Jack is not like, no, sorry boys,
Starting point is 01:14:08 tech hasn't caught up with you. He's like, there's no car big enough that we found. We will. That's right. We're gonna go on Carvana this afternoon and try to figure out what we can get for you. Well for two days they are scouring New York and every car is too big and they're all very large.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And then they see a kid driving about Bud's age in a very small car. And they run him down. Get in, shitheads. It's me, it's you from the future. And it is called a brush automobile. A brush automobile. A brush, and it is much cheaper than most cars, because it's small.
Starting point is 01:14:53 And brush because if your children are in it, they'll be a brush with death. Yes. And he shows them the brush, you know, store, and the next day, Bud test drives it. Test drives it. So what are you in town for? Work or pleasure?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Just make four lefts and then we'll go back to the dealership. 30 minutes. Don't blow the carburetor out. 30 minutes. And then he blows the carburetor. Shut up. So for 30 minutes, it's the first time he's ever driven.
Starting point is 01:15:31 He drives for 30 minutes and he's like, I got this. What a test drive. And then Temp drives for 30 minutes. Temp is driving? What is, what, I mean, honestly, look, you have lulled me into the point where Bud driving is, I'm working with it, I'm going, ah, what the fuck, whatever. Let this fucking nine-year-old drive.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Temp was never driving, in the version now where I had succumbed to the idea that this was going to happen, Bud is just sitting shotgun the whole time, or Bud is driving and Temp is sitting shotgun. That's fair. And now Temp is like, cool. Well, you gotta be sure,
Starting point is 01:16:08 just in case something happens to Bud. I don't think so. I don't agree with you. And then Jack buys the car for him. You know what this is a story about? The greatest dad ever? Nope. The worst father of all time. If you're a kid, this is the greatest dad that? Nope. The worst father of all time.
Starting point is 01:16:26 If you're a kid, this is the greatest dad that's ever existed. It is, absolutely. And that's all that matters. And then you know, then you're an adult and you start doing therapy. And you go, hey, you know what is better than fucking riding a horse from Oklahoma City
Starting point is 01:16:41 to New York with my brother? A hug. Hugs are awesome. A gift. Him teaching me stuff. Learning how to shave. This is so much better than a hug. No. Yeah. For me. Yeah. You says you. That makes that tracks. So he buys, Jack buys himself also a luxury Maxwell E30 touring car, so they're going to drive together, he'll drive behind them, but Jack hired a chauffeur for his car so he could learn how to drive as they went. Jack hired a chauffeur for the Bud temp car? No, for his car.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I can't fucking believe out of the two vehicles, there's two vehicles going, one with literal children and one with a grown ass wolf fister. And he's hiring a chauffeur. He's like, you know what? Let's play it safe. Let's get a chauffeur for the trip. You're right.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Let the kids figure it out as they go. I mean, the chauffeur, no, for my car. I'm not, the kids will figure it out as they go. I mean, the show, no, for my car, the kids will drive theirs. I like to drink a lot of alcohol. So I'll probably get too shit-canned to do any of the pedals and stuff. Plus, I don't really wanna learn. Plus, I don't really wanna see the kids.
Starting point is 01:17:57 So. Well, with the chauffeur, he can learn as he goes. The kids are, Well, the kids know, they did it for 30 minutes. They did it for like 30 minutes, Yeah, they're good to go. They did it for 30 minutes. They did it for like 30 minutes. Yeah, they're good to go. 30 minutes. They're good to...
Starting point is 01:18:08 Fuck. Yeah. As they drive out of the city, people are waving and calling their names. Goodbye forever. Goodbye forever. Yeah, Bolle. Bolle.
Starting point is 01:18:23 I cannot fucking believe no windshield. That's what goggles are for. I can't believe Temp will drive. Hey, Dad? Yeah? I don't know if, no, Dad? Oh, yes. Yeah. I don't know if, no, Dad? Oh, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I don't know if Tim should be driving, he's real little. Nah, he's all right. He's... Hey, Dad, are you drinking? Yeah, I, your dad's in love with a lady named Gin. A new mom? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, yeah, sure. She's a new mom? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:19:07 She's a new mom. Okay. I make love to her every night. I'm the chauffeur. What your dad's trying to say is... Sometimes he has a crazy way of saying he loves you boys. But he's sure to... Shut your fucking mouth. You're not here to tell my boys about love.
Starting point is 01:19:30 You're here to drive. Just shut up. He's so glad you two are becoming best friends. I will put my fist down your fucking mouth. All the way into your... Sometimes to get to someone's heart, you have to go a circuitous route. And you boys can draw a map for everything, but you can't really figure out how to drive yourself to your souls and figure out who you are.
Starting point is 01:19:53 But guess what? If there's one thing we've learned, it's that love conquers all. And maybe your dad can't say it to you because he, you know, he's drank so much gin. He just is drinking gin all day. But he loves you boys. And he's so kind to get drunk.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I'm just trying to make sure you're not gay. And he's trying, ah. No matter what you feel or believe, that's okay with your dad. When your mom died, your parents both left that day. Who are you? I'm the president of the United States. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
Starting point is 01:20:27 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
Starting point is 01:20:35 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey He gets out before the car stops. He rolls out. He doesn't realize the car needs to stop, so he gets out. He's a child. Yeah. Shouldn't be driving. And then Bud runs over him because Bud's in the car behind. Not hurt, though, because they're high. Look how high it is.
Starting point is 01:20:57 So he just kind of, like it's a cartoon. He just gets knocked down and then looks at the car going over him. And then afterwards, Jack lectured him and said, you can't get out of the car before it stops. What are you, six? What are you, literally a child? How many times do I have to tell you grown adults? And Temp later said, quote,
Starting point is 01:21:20 it was a dumb thing for me to do. I fucked up. So they drive across New York to Buffalo and then to Cleveland, and they wore goggles on dusty roads. In Plainsville, Ohio, tons of people come out to see him. More people than, quote, the last fire in town. You have got to love the metrics of that city. You know, more people came out for joy than tragedy
Starting point is 01:21:52 this last week. Every time they went through, people came out. Temp drove sometimes. Now, Temp drove even though his legs barely reached the pedals. That's fine. You don't need to be able to have those in your control. Right. Now, Temp drove even though his legs barely reached the pedals. That's fine. You don't need to be able to have those in your control. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:08 They drove through Michigan and Illinois and Iowa and in Missouri, the Maxwell caught on fire. And the show... Hold on. Of all the things, I mean, okay, a fire. Yeah, the carb is on fire. Do you think this will stop these two little Terminators? Well, it's not. They're in the other car, so no, it won't.
Starting point is 01:22:33 That's their dad's car. Well, look, their dad's been dead for a while now. Reality's just catching up with the emotional security. I'm just letting you drive across the country so I can feel something. Boy, he went right up where he was full of gin. So the dad and the chauffeur put it out using sand. It still drives, so on they went.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Even though it was quote, practically ruined. So they're driving. It's the car from Plains, Strangers and Automobiles. Yeah, they're just driving a firebird. As they neared Oklahoma City, 20 cars came out to greet them and escorted them in, and people packed the sidewalks and streets and family and friends.
Starting point is 01:23:23 The amount, I mean, we've covered this so many times. The shit that got you out of your house to go greet, I mean it's just like literally anything happening you're like we gotta get on each side of the street and enjoy this. This is the biggest shit we'll see for the month. So family and friends are waiting at a hotel for a luncheon. They had driven 23 days, 2,512 miles. That just tells me how long they were riding the horses before. I know, right?
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yeah, I mean, they've just been on the road so much. Forever. They're invited to a ton of places to give speeches. OK, you cannot. This fame shit, this is like, I thought this was more of a recent trend where it's like, bring an influencer to give a speech. And it's like, yeah, they got nothing to say.
Starting point is 01:24:16 No, they do, because Jack got them speaking lessons. Stage dad. The Brush Car Company. Oh, they were like, great. Brush car, only for kids. They paid for them to go to a car show in New York and sit in a booth and talk about the car. Do you know how much Teddy Roosevelt loved this? He was just like, Oh yeah. Bully. Bully, bully, bully. Like, we are raising men.
Starting point is 01:24:53 This is the best country. Jack brought the two horses to New York on a train. They had been offered parts in movies. And- Who, the horses? No, the boys and the horses. And the horses? You can't get two fucking stand-in horses? No, we gotta have the actual horses.
Starting point is 01:25:13 We wanna book your actual horses. They're SAG-AFTRA eligible, correct? Yes. Well, we'll Taft Hartlium, he's standing right here. Consider it signed. That's an industry. Yeah, that's it. So then Jack gets into films, and he hired a camera man,
Starting point is 01:25:29 a director, and a writer, and they did a reenactment of the journey. They also did a movie about Jack's wolf hunts. So Jack's getting into showbiz a little bit. Sure. Our next film is called Avatar. Ha ha! And then in July, they were offered the gig of riding an elephant and a donkey to Washington, DC.
Starting point is 01:25:48 All right, Dave. Dave, Dave, David. I've never done this, but I'm gonna have to ask you to stop. That'll be pig, that'll be enough pig, that'll do. That'll do pig, that'll... I just, this has, the Dave, and I'm not kidding, this has to be the last one.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Because I can't hear what's, if there's, there can't be anything after this. There just simply can't be. We're already in... They're already human cartoons. Well, it's an elephant and a donkey because it's... That's the Democrats and Republicans.
Starting point is 01:26:36 It's a race to predict who's going to win the election and people fucking love it. Like, what an amazing idea. There are no pictures of this. I could not find a picture. Well, you know why? Because both just meandered in useless directions and didn't get anywhere.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Hey! Woo! Woo! Woo! They just walked around sniffing each other's asses forever. Now, weirdly enough, elephants aren't made to ride hundreds of miles, so when they got to Philly, the elephants' feet were too sore Now, weirdly enough, elephants aren't made to ride hundreds of miles, so
Starting point is 01:27:09 when they got to Philly, the elephants' feet were too sore, and the Humane Society made them stop. That is out of everything. That might be the craziest thing in this story. The Humane Society existed and stopped them. Yeah. So now the owners of Luna Park, which is an amusement park, issued a challenge.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Ride the elephant all the way. For the boys to ride horses to San Francisco in 60 days. Why are you putting a tie? We have forgotten their ages. And if they made it in 60 days, they would get $10,000. So fucked up.
Starting point is 01:27:49 What is Jack? Where's Jack? They could take Sundays off. Sundays are off, okay good. And they could never eat or sleep under a roof. I can't believe the last rule. We're trying to kill them. We don't want to give them the money.
Starting point is 01:28:06 These kids better die. We don't have the 10 grand. We do not have it. We are rooting for these children to pass away. No food period. How about that? No food, just water from that river that gave him the squirts. And they can only change horses once.
Starting point is 01:28:28 So they... If your horse dies twice, you die with it. Do you understand, boys? So they agree to... Have you seen Squid Game? This is Squid Kid. This is Squirt Game. So they agree. Yeah, we'll take the deal.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Yeah. Yeah, we'll do it. Oh, fuck. I'll write alimony checks for the next two months. Get ahead of those. I guess it's more Jack agreed to it, right? What? I guess Jack is the more Jack agreed to it, right? What?
Starting point is 01:29:06 I guess Jack is the one who agreed to it, but whatever. I mean, they had to say yes, but Jack is the guy who has to legally agree. I don't think law is entering the conversation anymore, anywhere. They just had to get off of an elephant because of its feet hurting. Remember that?
Starting point is 01:29:24 Yep. Yep. So thousands watched them leave. This is a big deal. Goodbye forever! Remember, no roofs. So they have to travel 60 miles a day to make it. Shocking. And this time they took better care of the horses.
Starting point is 01:29:39 They would go to a blacksmith every night and get the horse shoes checked out. The boys want to stay inside. No sir, we're about to make ten grand for our crazy dad. blacksmith every night and get the horse shoes checked out. You boys want to stay inside? No, sir. We're about to make 10 grand for our crazy dad. Now Wiley, the horse. Yeah, the horse. He slept on his back with his legs up.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Why not? Yep, at this point, why not? At a store in Toledo, they had a table with a meal waiting for them on the street, because they couldn't eat inside. So they- A table on a mule. So these people put a table on the street, and then a crowd stood around and watched them eat.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Look at him eat. He chews just like us. Do you need me to cut that for you? No. Jack would meet them in three cities across the country. He's driving. He's a good dad. They would sleep in haystacks to keep warm.
Starting point is 01:30:44 This is actual punishment. The only reason we can laugh is because of the time. We know that this is over. If this was in the paper, we'd be like, what the actual fuck? If this happened like in the last week, we'd be like, there's not any comedy here. This could 100% be a reality show.
Starting point is 01:31:07 That doesn't mean it's okay. That is not our metric for acceptability anymore. Disagree. No. That's fine. TLC, two boys dying. Thursday's after, what the fuck, she's fat. Can't you see it? Followed by xenophobic wives.
Starting point is 01:31:28 On an all new, I ate my house. Can't you see a reality show in which five families compete for citizenship and if- Dave, it's too real, stop. And if they lose, they go, I'm sorry, Gonzales family, pack your suitcase. You're going back to Mexico. And then one family, 100% gonna happen. Welcome to citizenship.
Starting point is 01:31:57 You've beaten all the others, and you've done an incredible job. You are not bad hombres, you're good hombres. Even the lady hombre, there's a term for it, but I can't remember what it is right now. On an all new The White House. So at a store in Toledo. Followed by an all new comedy's back. Yeah, we finally brought it back, man.
Starting point is 01:32:30 It's back for real this time. I'm 80% ketamine. Yeah. In Cheyenne, Sam Bass ate a bunch of alfalfa, then foundered and died. Wait, who did? Sam Bass, the main horse, the horse from the start of the story, who chased the wolf.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Yeah, so we're down one, and we're only allowed one replacement horse? Yes. Total. Each. Each is allowed one. Okay, good. It's a shame the other one sleeps like it's dead every night. replacement horse? Total. Each. Each is allowed one. Yeah. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:33:05 It's a shame the other one sleeps like it's dead every night. It's probably very confusing and upsetting for these children. Well, they're very upset about Sam Bass because that's their dad's horse, but they bought a new horse and they named him. Fuck your dad. At this point I'd be like, good, fuck dad's horse.
Starting point is 01:33:21 They named the new horse Big Black. Move on. That slowed them down a lot, so they're off pace. In Laramie, they were shopping for groceries. Quote, the grocer told us that a whole family had been murdered by a man with an axe. How's your day? How old are you boys? Should you be shopping in here? Oh, a horse. How's your day? How old are you boys?
Starting point is 01:33:46 Should you be shopping in here? Oh, a whole family was killed by an axe guy a few days ago. Just the Twizzlers and Milk? They had to cross the Rocky Mountains. What the fuck? Driving through it is a hell. Yes. Today, it's bad.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Today it's bad. Back then they're like, well, goodbye forever brother. They were delayed by three days by rain. So they're really getting behind. They crossed the- They're really getting behind. They crossed the great Salt Lake desert.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Just... they're alone. You've lulled us into accepting this, but this out of context is just a death march. The weight of the horses would crack the salt crust, and there was mud underneath. A trail! I cannot believe the trauma bonding that's happening right now.
Starting point is 01:34:56 And everyone under 30 is like, mmm. They were also disgusting smelling mud holes that they avoided. They followed a wagon trail and drank less of their water while crossing the desert. It was so hot that Temp fell asleep on the horse as he walked and rode for miles not falling. These kids are like a doctor at some point needs to be inspecting them. The damage going on right now. It's great. Incalculable.
Starting point is 01:35:28 They rode into the night and estimated they had traveled 110 miles that day. So they're making up time for ten thousand dollars. That's right. And their children. Yeah. When they woke in the morning, the horses were gone. But it forgot to tie their legs together so they wouldn't run off. I mean, everything's bad, Dave. Tie their legs together.
Starting point is 01:35:51 I mean, the horses are like, fuck this. No, we're out. All right, well, they could get one replacement at this point. Well, this is when they realized they could, no, they're in the middle of the desert. There's no horses. Sorry, I'm very used to them making it work. Well, there's nothing around., they're in the middle of the desert. There's no horses. Sorry, I'm very used to them making it work.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Well, there's nothing around. They're out in the middle of the desert. So this is where the boys die and the humor stops? Well, this is when they first realized they could actually die on the trip because it's a hot desert and they have no way to get anywhere. Yeah, that's how I felt every moment of this.
Starting point is 01:36:24 And they're almost out of food and water. Death, no, they are children. Yeah, you remember that part? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're children. So they searched for the horses for a day and they didn't find them. And they drank the last of their water.
Starting point is 01:36:42 And the next day they searched again. This is a story of death. And in the afternoon, Temp became so exhausted, he just came back to camp and laid down. He's gonna blow his carburetor out if he's not careful. The third morning, Temp couldn't move. I think I'm gonna have to eat Temp. And Bud checked on him, but Temp could only stare. Well, that's bad. And then.
Starting point is 01:37:12 No. A horse? Bud went back out. No. And near the end of the day, he came back riding Wiley Haines. Not the horse, the deputy. No.
Starting point is 01:37:26 The fuck is going on? Knife on his throat. Okay, the deputy. No. The fuck is going on? He's got a knife on his throat. Okay, Tim. Chill out, Tim. Now relax, okay? Shut up! No, so he comes back on the horse. He found the horse. And then they ride double,
Starting point is 01:37:39 and they come to a hill, and on the other side of the hill is the town of Kelton, and that's where they find Big Black, who had ridden in way ahead of them to get there. I knew I forgot something. He was just like, yeah, no, I'm gonna be over there. Hey, you should come here.
Starting point is 01:37:54 They have a lot more than the desert. That was the worst place for us to go. I don't think I believe in you. So there they buy canned food and they take off again. Just the oysters? You know a guy murdered a bunch of people with a sword last night. Just the taffy, oysters and chocolate milk. We have two locations. than chocolate milk. We have two locations.
Starting point is 01:38:29 At one point some men on a train offered to give them a ride and not tell anyone, but they said they couldn't do it because they'd know themselves. Wow, that is principled for, yeah. Their dad raised them right. No, he didn't. He didn't raise them at all. Did not even raise them. But there's no way they're gonna make it in time now. In Reno, they meet some girls who are their age
Starting point is 01:38:53 and they say they're going over the Sierra Nevadas. Who are girls who are their age? So 10 year olds? Well, they are girls, like literally girls. Yeah, I know. But they are girls like literally girls. Yeah I know. They're probably skipping rope or whatever. You know kids will do. And he's just like you girls want to get fucking crazy? You ever done heroin on a horse's back? And they tell the girls where they're going, and the girls tell them how Donner Pass got its name. Oh! How about this?
Starting point is 01:39:28 Could someone read them a fucking story? These are children. Someone do Snow White? Oh, that way? Well, that's the way where the people ain't the other people they were related to. See ya. Ha ha! Oh, that way? Well, that's the way where the people ate the other people they were related to.
Starting point is 01:39:46 See ya. So now they're worried about a snowstorm going over. That's so funny to hear a story about cannibalism and be like, yeah, it could snow. And it's the exact same time of year. The Donner party. The cannibalism is also seasonal. Let me walk you through the five day.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Here's what we have. Monday, Tuesday looking great. Wednesday, Thursday a bit of a cold front. This weekend it looks like there might be some cannibalism. So if you're going to go out and get some stuff, favor the earlier part of the week. We're looking for a little bit more cannibalism. Monday next week should clear up Tuesday, Wednesday,
Starting point is 01:40:26 and next weekend we should have a real clear, crispy Memorial Day for everybody. More later. And that's from the Donner Doppel... Like, you can't do it. Yeah, it's alright. Um, and so they went and snow hit and they ate each other. No, there was no snow, it was totally uneventful. Be so great.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Ate each other is the best way too. And that was it. One didn't eat the other? No, they choose to eat each other. At the same time. Foot, they both went foot first. So they head over the mountains, they arrive in Oakland, they take a ferry to San Francisco,
Starting point is 01:41:06 huge crowd waiting as is Jack. You fucking losers. He congratulated them, but they said they weren't done. And they rode through Golden Gate Park all the way to the ocean as they were supposed to. And Bud rode Big Black into the waves. Anybody point-braked? Yeah. He's point-broken.
Starting point is 01:41:33 And then Temp did the same, and he rode Wiley into the waves a little too far. And... And Wiley got into the undertow and he was trying to kick but he's a horse trying to get his footing and then he went down and Temp thought they were gonna die. But he managed to stay on the saddle and somehow Wiley managed to ride himself and struggle back to the beach. You're only clapping because it just got so normalized.
Starting point is 01:42:22 because it just got so normalized. Think of what just happened. You're now clapping because a six year old didn't drown his horse in the ocean. And you're like, well, a happy ending's important. No, no! Is it ever, no! It's very happy, it's a happy ending. A lot of people are nodding with me. It was a very happy ending.
Starting point is 01:42:50 A lot of people are nodding. Now, they're not getting the prize money, but you know what? They fucking did it. They did it. So does the prize money matter? There's a guy over there who just goes, yeah. Yeah, they did do it. In 1913, a motorcycle company paid them to ride
Starting point is 01:43:09 from Oklahoma to New York City. Well, at that point, Tep is nine. I can't, I literally, I can't, I can't anymore. What is next? I'm sad to report that was the last of their trips. Oh, thank God, stop, what? Yes. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:43:42 They would grow up and Jack became an oilman and did very well. Bud grew up and became a lawyer and then a district attorney and then a judge. And he died in 1979. 79? Temp worked in the oil business and died in 1986. What? How old are they? They were older.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Yeah, but 86. 86 blew her mind. Yeah, she blew her mind. What? I was under the? They were older. Yeah, but 86. 86 blew her mind. Yeah, she blew her mind. What? I was under the impression they were immortal beings. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Temp wasn't allowed to die. Yeah. That is fucking bonkers.
Starting point is 01:44:18 What do you mean? Everything. That's... It's a couple of kids. They went out and did a thing. It's a big deal. I cannot honestly process what has just taken place. Some kids went on a trip. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:44:43 What are the resources? C.S. Lewis? Well, one is Alda Abernathy, Butted Me, The True Adventures of the Abernathy Boys, and then ButtedMe.com and Hagridy.com, Abernathy Boys became a legend. Holy shit. Shocking. Shocking. When we put this out, is the title going to be the worst father of all time? No, my dad is not. This isn't about my dad. This is about another dad. Why would I all of a sudden put the title of my dad
Starting point is 01:45:28 on this story? You're, uh... This is Rat Dad. This is one of those things where it's just like, it really, it just, it should, it should, and I'm not trying to be rude or like shitty or dark, but this should have never been an episode. This literally should have been the story
Starting point is 01:45:49 about a dad getting arrested for parental malpractice and who just let his kids fucking die. I mean, the fact that they made it is un-fucking believable. It's crazy to do a podcast. And now kids can't eat peanuts. No. It's crazy to do a podcast. And now kids can't eat peanuts. It's crazy to do a podcast with someone who hates adventure. You know what I mean? He doesn't enjoy the spirit of adventure.
Starting point is 01:46:18 The American spirit. He doesn't enjoy the American spirit. Why is this? Why is this? Why is this? Don't blow a carburetor, just calm down. Why has this not been a movie? Has this ever been turned into anything?
Starting point is 01:46:30 Well, because it's fucking insane. Exactly. This should be like Hulu should pick this up right away. Hularious. True, it should be. I mean, that story is absolutely fucking crazy. The reason why it shouldn't be a story is, like, they shouldn't turn in anything,
Starting point is 01:46:47 because if I saw this as a kid, I would have absolutely left home. I would have absolutely left home, smoking heaters just on a dirt bike, like, people are like, where are you from? They're like, Brandy, Wisconsin, like, what's on your chin? I'm growing a goat. Yeah. Yeah. The fact that they died from being old.
Starting point is 01:47:13 They had to be like, they probably, they were chasing that dragon forever too. Yeah, it probably never went away. No. The desire to be on the road. No, one of them was a fucking lawyer. Yeah. One of them was a lawyer, like looking out the window and they're like,
Starting point is 01:47:27 did you hear me about the details of the night in question? He's like, sorry, I was just thinking about the time we couldn't take the elephant all the way to DC. Sorry, what? Nothing, my brother and I, when we were six and nine, tried to ride an elephant and a donkey from New York all the way. I could still hear tiny now.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Where was your dad? My what? Oh, I didn't have one of those. I never happened. They love their dad. Yup. I'm sure they do. Alright guys, thanks a lot for coming out.
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