The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 684 - Pete Rose - part three

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

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You're listening to the dollop on the All Things Comedy Network. This is an American history podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to what is essentially a plant. Plants are awesome. Gareth Reynolds has no idea what the topic is going to be about. If I'm a plant, I'm providing a lot more than a fucking comedian. How dare you. Well, here we go. The last episode of the show.

All time. Of all time. It's been a good run. I've enjoyed it. It was great meeting you and... But look, I'm retiring upstate. I'm instate, I'm Montana, I mean, with your mom. And we're just gonna get a little cabin there. No. Stabbing cabin is what it's called. Ah, yuck. Yeah, yeah, this is just terrible. Oh, you went to a stabbing cabin with my dad.

I did not. No, not what the police say. I went to a stabbing cabin with my dad. I did not. Well, that's not what the police say. I went to a strangle yurt. That's not cool. What? I miss him more than you, just so you know. Well, yeah, everybody does miss him more than me. Yeah, so there you go.

I miss my dad the least. It's a shame that he had to go. You know what's interesting is when people go, you just need time to feel it. Like it's not, but a lot of time. It's not, it's not there yet. People who are okay with their parents dying. Favorite memory of them? Uh, fuck. What was his name? Michael, Michael James Anthony. MJ. Oh, sorry, James Michael.

He never used James. He went by Michael, but James Michael. Favorite memory? Wait, so his initials were? JM. JM. JMA. JMA.

Yeah. Boy, favorite memory is a tough one. All right. I thought it would come quicker, but I guess not. It's interesting. I wonder how fast my... Same thing would happen with my sister. She'd be like, well...

When he gave you the quarters? He gave them to her. He didn't give them... Post-humus quarters is pretty cool. Yeah. He gave... I was just... Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah, he gave quarters, yeah. That's pretty cool. Fuck, dude, I really.

My favorite was when he and I one time, we went fishing and he threw the pole and he jumped in and he came out with a fish in his mouth like a bear. That's a movie. Oh. That's not. That didn't happen to you. Oh.

Okay. My favorite, honestly, my favorite moment that I ever had with your dad was this one time we were on a train and we had an argument and we ended up on the top of the train while it was moving and we just fought each other. And then as we were going through, as it was getting intense, he was on top of me and he's going, I'm smarter than you, I'm better than you, I'm better than you. And I just kind of held his head up and his head got taken off by a light.

And I said, yeah, well, I'm taller. That's also a movie. Oh. None of your memories of my dad are actual memories. 1985! Let me do this five more times. Pedro's has now broken the all time MLB hit record. And he wants to capitalize.

Sure. He also needs money cause he can't stop gambling. Yeah, cause he's in with a Jim Coke head. He met a 19 year old memorabilia dealer. He met a 19 year old memorabilia dealer named Berto and moved him into the house with Tommy, GS, and it was a sidekick Aaron Boyce. Now there's three guys living in the place.

Well, you know you're probably inviting too many people into your house when the memorabilia guy's one of them. Excuse me, who's that? He has relics. So Berto takes pictures, he sells autographs, he makes Pete's bets with two mob connected brothers in New York. I gotta say, all I knew was that Pete Rose was a gambler.

Yeah. That really doesn't do it justice for. Really doesn't. What it's actually had to be chaos around it. It's chaos. He's now regularly betting on baseball, the Braves, the Mets, the Phillies, the Yankees, and the team he plays and manages for, the Reds.

He has relatively good success because it's a sport he knows. It was he, wasn't his whole contention that he never bet on his own team? That's correct. So he is betting on his own team. And baseball. And baseball, oh he's, I didn't, okay. So he said he never bet on his own team. That's correct. So he is betting on baseball. And baseball, he's, I didn't, okay.

So he said he never bet on baseball. Right. Right, okay. He bets on football and basketball and hasn't been deep for 250,000 to the New York mob. So he's good at it. Yeah. So this is why sports league leagues ban gambling

for players because now the bookies own you. And Pete has long said, and a book obtained by ESPN's Outside the Line corroborates that Pete always bet on his team to win. But quote, a manager betting on his own team could harm the game, even if he was betting on the team to win. He could overuse a pitcher or refuse to test or to rest a starter in pursuit

of his own financial gain. And what he wagered or didn't wager could move markets in the underworld. The boogies in New York surely noticed when Berto was betting against Pete. So not Pete, but when Berto made his own bet. Any bookie would wonder if Berto had inside information, it will make it worthwhile to go against the Reds that night.

The bookies also surely noticed when Pete didn't bet on the Reds, he wasn't betting against his team. He was just betting on them. So I, until I read this, I've always been like, who cares if you bet on your own team? But that argument is gone. Exactly what I just went through. Completely gone. That was what he always said. I always bet on him to win. Yeah. My own team to win. But now you read that.

You know that if, especially if you're the manager, you can definitely be fucking around. And it's true when you don't, then people are like, oh, they're going to lose. Yeah. So yeah, I, because I have always made that argument. Now, like that paragraph, I'm just like, oh, yeah. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. At this point, for me, it's just crazy to bet on your own team. I mean, I mean, the idea that you're going to be like making any decisions. It's just what a crazy energy.

You're like, man, coach is intense today. I mean, he's a when you're an addict, we got a fucking win. Yeah. Imagine how crazy was take my big toe. Imagine a crazy was if you bet on his team and they were losing. Imagine how fucking crazy was in the dugout and the shit you do like because there are games you just you it's a it's a it's a, it's a hundred and, and, 82 game season, so, you're resting players a certain time,

you're doing certain things, so you don't want to wear them out, but if you bet on that game, you're going to throw everything at it, like it's the game set on the World Series. Yeah. Because you made a fucking bet. Is he still playing?

Pete Rose? Yeah. No, he's dead. No, no, in, in this, Oh! The fuck just happened? What the fuck? I'm sorry.

That'd be awesome if he was still playing. Yeah, he's still playing. I think, yeah, he's still playing. I think so. Well, I know he's the manager player, but it's like... I don't know how much he's playing. He's probably not playing nearly as much. Right. So...

At this point... I mean, who knows why Pete cuts Tommy out of his life in favor of Tommy steroid dealer, Paul Jansen. So this kid, he's- He's just ruined this kid's life. He's had this kid around forever. The kid's path probably went different. He probably want, I want to be a baseball player. Oh my God, I'm not a good baseball player. Instead he gets Pete Rose who puts them on a minor league team and then the kids start seeing steroids, so like whatever. I mean, he's around drugs because of Pete. He's around the livestock because of Pete.

So who knows what the kid's life would have been. Sure. And now he just cuts him out. Sure. And who knows why. Sure. And now it's the steroid dealer that takes Tommy's place. Pete told Tommy it was because he was acting crazy in front of a racetrack owner, but everyone

was hooting and hollering and acting the same. It seems as if Pete was just- Like a racetrack owner's like, a little decorum, please. Okay, we're trying to run a classy establishment here. Now excuse me while I go kill four horses because they didn't run as fast as I thought they would. Give me the bat. Yeah. It seems as if Pete was just tired of them,

had used them up. Right. There was only one job left for Tommy, picking up a check for 34,000 and splitting it with a bookie and then getting out of town. And the $17,000 were all Tommy had. Tommy's an addict, his longtime girlfriend was threatening to leave him and he has no friends.

Now through Paul, the new dealer, Pete finds another, sorry, the new Tommy, old dealer. Pete finds another bookie in Staten Island. I mean, imagine how many bookies he's gone through. But again, the idea again, it's just like, you're doubling down. Yeah. Cause some bookies are probably like, no, you go to the new bookie. He's going to pay a field bookie. Pete Stifson as he does. Sure. But this guy, he's not down. Right. He threatens violence and he tells Paul it's his problem. He's going to hurt you. I'm going to hurt you. Uh-huh.

Uh, but Pete's like, yeah, I'm not. Uh, OK. It's you, not me. Yeah. So Paul has to cobble together $34,000 from savings, friends, and family. Fuck. Meanwhile, the police are closing in on Rhode Island mob bookie Joe Canberra.

A wiretap records him talking to his boss about Pete wanting to play $6,000 on a football game but even more damning when they kick down camera's door the phone is ringing. Oh my god. Hello. Hey this is Pete Rose. Future Hall of Famer. Listen I want to put $15,000 on Granson in the Highlight Championships. One of the investigators picks up and says, camera can't come to the phone. And the voice says, quote, just tell them Pete Rose called. Oh, Pete. Why would you use your full fucking name?

Have a code name. Holy shit. Hey, it's Pete Rose. It's my bookie. How are you? Pete Rose, Cincinnati Reds player third manager. That's so dumb. Did anyone ever call him Cheat Rose?

Did that ever catch on? I don't think so. That was a good one. Hello, crime house. Yeah. Hello, this is the New York Police Department. Hi, this is Pete Rose. How are you?

Are you guys taking any bets? I'm in deep. The FBI had finally figured out what was going on at Gold's Gym, and they wanted to take down every person involved in the cocaine and stairway ring. They started with the owner, made a deal with him to set up a supplier who they popped and confiscated millions in cash. So next on their list was Pete's new buddy, Paul Jansen. When the FBI knocked on his door, Paul was polite, but-

Wasn't Paul living with him? I don't know. He might have been living with his girlfriend at this point. Paul was polite, but no, you're thinking of the other guy. I don't think Paul ever moved in. It was Bertow that moved in. Paul's polite, but very curt because he wants to protect Pete. The FBI suggested that maybe it's time Paul gets a lawyer and Paul's girlfriend went to Pete's lawyer, Ruben Katz,

and told him everything. And he's like, I need a lawyer, and I need money to pay for the lawyer, and the money I need is the money that Pete owes me. So Paul said he'd bet on baseball and on the Rets. That, that, uh huh, peter. Yeah. And Paul said of the lawyer, quote,

he put his head down and made a gesture with his hands. And he said, that's it, it's over. Sorry. Anyway, that's my lawyer. Sorry. Are you going to take our case or? Can you put an ice pick into my brain? Okay.

I, uh. Just kill me. Well, we really, we think we have a shot. I'll take your case. Okay, great. My God, pick up that stool and bash my head in. No, I can't really. That's the best lawyer in the world of bullshit, dear lawyer.

Like we're dead. Now all Paul wants is the money. And Pete has a net worth of at least three million and he owes him like 34 grand. But to Pete. I don't understand. Explain that to me. Why he doesn't pay him? Yeah. Because it's the thing where he just, I don't need to. Right. He's gotten away with not paying people for so fucking long. I mean, Terry went hard on them. But even all of his gambling debts, he's still just trying to kind of pay them off

because he doesn't want to take the hit. But this isn't a gambling debt, it's just money that Paul paid to cover his gambling debt because Paul was going to get hurt. Right. And Paul to him is just another friend to, you know, use up and cast off, right? So Rubin calls his lawyer, calls Pete, and tells him what Paul said.

And Pete gives Paul $10,000. This is not enough. There you go. It's not enough good? Here's a third of what I owe you almost. Here's nowhere near what I... Here you go. Sorry about all that.

Here's a small part of it. Here's almost nothing. You have $3 that. Here's a small part of it. Here's almost nothing. You have three million dollars. Here's a little bit. Here's way less than what you need. It's three quarters less what you owe it. So that's a slap in the face to Paul. And as soon as he opened the check.

Does he know about the FBI coming after him? Paul? About, does Pete know that the FBI? Yeah, because he went and told the lawyer. Why the fuck would you not give him 34,000 fucking dollars right away? Just shut him up. Just be like, bro. Shut him up told the lawyer. Why the fuck would you not give him thirty four thousand fucking dollars right away? Just be like, bro, shut up. Yeah.

This is the one guy you pay off. Yeah. Yes. Well, it's the same thing with Tommy. You just cut Tommy out. Tommy could also fuck him. Yeah. But this is a direct like the FBI is contacting me. Yeah. All right. I'll give you a little bit. Yeah. So as soon as Paul opens up the check, he knows exactly what he has to do. He walks downstairs to a pay phone and calls the FBI.

So Paul starts cooperating with the Feds, helping them take down the crazy Cokehead bookie from Gold's Gym, the cocaine supplier. He did everything he could except rat on Pete. God, these people are such stock homey shit This is why the whole Ohtani thing makes me go Yeah, right because this has happened many times. Yeah, right

When the gym was busted Pete denied ever going there Which was very strange because he let the owner to the Pete Rose cocaine room Because he let the owner put out ads with this picture on them saying Pete Rose And I only go to Gold's gym this one specifically Saying he exercised there let him make gold gym sweatshirts with his name on them and even let them call it Pete Rose's gold gym I've never been there I've never been there. I never even been there. I don't even know what gold is.

You miss. Where's a bunch of merch with your face on it? I didn't do cocaine at the juice bar. I never been there before. It's fucking great. So it, so a year has gone by since gone by since Paul talked to the lawyer, right? Cats. And Paul wrote him a letter now, quote, I have a feeling that you and Mr. Rose discussed

our meeting and concluded that a noncommittal stance by yourself might discourage me. And I dry up and blow away. Well, I don't intend to. He went on to say Pete was too ignorant to recognize the damage that Paul could do if he went public with these claims and then got to the point. Quote, I prepared an anxious to prove this in court if necessary. I wasn't put on earth to be Pete Rose's doormat. It is time for him to take responsibility for his actions and if need be, get some professional help along the way before he has nothing left.

Wow. So that's a threat. Yeah. That's a that's a genuine. I like the idea of saying he needs help too. Yeah. But it's too late. Rumors are swirling. Sure. The rumors are that someone named the Skin Man has recordings where Pete admitted into gambling. Fucking Skin Man. I knew I shouldn't have trusted the god damn Skin Man. I mean he sounds like such a comforting good name, fucking Skin Man. I knew I shouldn't have trusted the goddamn Skin Man. I mean, he sounds like such a comforting good name, the Skin Man. Like this. It's like when I, my old buddy, the kidney guy. I told the Skin Man everything.

I really let him know everything. I mean, you hear a guy named the Skin Man and you're like, just let it out. Yeah. Really, I'm just picturing a naked guy full of folds. How are you, Pete? I'm your skin man. Hi, Pete.

It's just he takes like a hit, it just like takes a hit of something and the skin man appears. Hello, Peter. Hello. The skin man. The IRS agents were circling to nab Pete for lying about gambling wins and his taxes. Even though the FBI ultimately chose not to press charges because they quote, didn't want another John DeLorean situation.

Oh my God. Well, we all, what the fuck? We all want a John DeLorean situation. Keep giving us John DeLorean. How do we get dollars? If it ain't broke. Crikey. They did the hand the investigation over to the one place Pete did not want it to go.

Major League Baseball. Oh, fuck. You don't fuck with the baseball guys. So tired of waiting for Pete's lawyer. It's crazy that the FBI turns an investigation over to MLB. I think it means that, so for a federal prosecutor to go after you, they usually have, like their success rate is crazy on prosecutions. That's why, that's why I think Elon Musk was going down because the DOJ.

All right, let's not make this political. We don't see eye to eye on Elon. Been able to do a podcast despite that. So they probably were a little worried about witnesses or, you know, it's probably all sort of nebulous. They could tie them together. Like maybe you could do it in like a city court or whatever, but feds really want to lock it down before they go after you. Right. So they probably didn't have it. Probably easier for MLB too, because they're like, yeah, MLB can, it's a private corporation. They can just do what they want. Right.

So Paul's tire awaiting for Pete's lawyer to get back to him. So he calls sports illustrated. Nice, smart. There have been rumors about Pete's gambling problems for years, but nobody in the press had anything concrete. Okay. Now real witness who was involved just waltzes up to sports illustrated writer, Robert Sullivan with the story. After a few conversations, Sullivan is convinced Paul's telling the truth. Uh, and the magazine assigned several writers to fan out across Cincinnati in what is going to become one

of the most explosive stories in the history of sports. Oh my God. They had to move fast though because of other outlets heard about it, you know, they get in there quicker and maybe do a shittier job. But the problem was there was a mole inside of Sports Illustrated's newsroom and he tipped off MLB. Oh, okay. So Pete-

The same thing happened with David Stern in basketball with the Donahue shit. Oh, yeah. There was like a, they rushed to get out their own investigative findings before, I can't remember, whatever, the FBI did. And then it became harder to win that narrative anyway. So Pete is at spring training and he gets word while he was running wind sprints and making fun of his players for getting fat during the off season.

You are a psychopath. You are out of your fucking tits. If all this is going on and you still feel comfortable doing wind sprints busted chops, it is so funny, you would not see me. They'd be like, where is Garrett? They'd be like, oh, did you see that pile of cigarette butts with hair planking out of it?

That's him. He gets word that the commissioner wants to see him in New York tomorrow. So if you're in spring training and they're like, the commissioner needs to see you tomorrow, you're fucked. No, Pete Rose would be like, it's gotta be good news. I'm gonna win an award. I think he's got a teenage daughter he wants me to pork. They're gonna declare me Mr. Baseball, let me fuck their kids.

I think I got a good feeling about this everybody. He's putting on a bib for no reason. So the next morning Pete is sitting across the table from three men, Faye Vincent, who looks like a thumb made out of marshmallows. Dave, I hate to do it, but it's a very specific thing you said. Faye Vincent? Faye Vincent. And then there is Soon.

Am I right? Is Josh right? Josh wrote that? He really... He does, right? Yeah wrote that? He really he does right? Yeah. Yeah He's he's not it's not Uh, I don't want to be too rude. It's not great. I don't want to be too rude I don't want to I don't want to say this but it looks like if

Sloth from the goonies got a makeover I mean, yeah. And then, yeah, no, it's, it's like, it's like, Hey, party was melting. So the next, the next guy at the table is the soon to be baseball commissioner, Bart Giamatti, who was an odd guy for his time and a man who would never be chosen to be a commissioner of pro sports today. Okay. Um, every now they're all finance guys or union busting lawyers working inside whatever. Um, Bart Giamatti had a doctorate in comparative literature and was an expert in Renaissance epic poetry. Well,

but he was a union busting ass when he was a president of Yale, but he's an intellectual Italian American. He was greeted as Yale's first ethnic president is Italian. The first ever to not come from a wonderful Anglo Saxon stock. His portrait was hung in local Italian bars. Okay, sure. He worked at Yale for three decades before joining MLB as the president of the National League and then Ultimi. Ultimi became commissioner and then the third guy, he's also Paul

Giamatti's dad. The third guy, he's also Paul Giamatti Staten. The third guy was Commissioner Peter Yuberoff. From the Dallup LA 1984 Olympics episode. He increased revenue for the league. He ran the 1984 Olympics. Yeah, right, he's a business guy for Mitt Romney. Killed the eagle. Right, yeah.

A increased revenue for the league to a degree never before seen. He facilitated collusion between the owners to violate the league's collective bargaining agreement, which means he helping owners work together to steal money from the players, which led to over $280 million in fines. But he did one thing that is relevant to Pete Rose. He reinstated two baseball legends, Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle, who were banned by the prior commissioner because of their association with casinos. Oh, wow. Which I did not know. I didn't either. So he let them both come back in. Yeah. How old, like?

They must've been retired when that happened. Oh, okay, I get it now. I think. Right, that'd be amazing. Or must've been retired when he let them back in, I mean. Right, that's right, yeah, right, right. Commissioner Uberoth. I've been waiting for this call for a long time.

No, no, it's just performative. All right. Commissioner Uberoth wanted this whole mess to go away. All he needed was for Pete to just sit there, admit he had done something wrong, get treatment and not do it again. Then he'd avoid being banned for life. Instead, Pete sat there and told them

he had never betted on baseball. Jesus Christ. Sure, maybe he put some money down on football and basketball, but never baseball. Yuberoff didn't want this hanging over his head at the end of his tenure, but he had no choice. So he set up an investigation led by a really big lawyer, John Dowd.

Dowd, interesting choice, he was an attorney who took down mafia guys, but he also protected scumbags like an Air Force Colonel who secretly gave weapons to the murderous rapists in the Nicaragua Contras. To be fair, if it's war based in our... It's not. It's not good. No, that's okay. No, it's not actually.

Yeah, it is. I mean, none. Huh? He spilled everything to doubt, sparing absolutely no detail. So Pete's old little buddy, Tommy Gio, is a very emotional guy. He's also a steroid. Yeah He's now 700 pounds and crying He's the whole balls are in I'm all back acne. Yeah, he loved Pete for taking him out of obscurity and juicing to the whole millionaire

Got out of peach life I to the whole millionaire lifestyle. It's been very difficult to be cut out of Pete's life. I got a shot at playing pro baseball. He loves Pete for this stuff. Sure. Also booze, women, drugs, like the whole thing. But now he's living in his parents' home with his girlfriend. Let me just, the unsung heroes of this episode are his parents who let an emotional coke

giant come live in their house again. Mom, where's the milk? who let an emotional coke giant come live in their house again. Mom, where's the milk? With just moving in her parents' house, your girlfriend has got to be such a power. But to be 400 pounds of Roy. Yeah. Maybe you don't really need to be that big anymore, honey. Oh, no, I got to lift the house.

I'm going to try to grab a plane out of the sky. Yeah. So the FBI comes to the door, John Dowd calls, and Tommy's just not gonna rat on Pete. Sure. That's sad too. But he also knows Pete would never do. You should tell on him.

He's my best friend. He's my best, but would Pete do that for you? No. No, well maybe, I don't know. He won't answer my call. He knows Pete would never do that for you? No. No. Well, maybe I don't know he won't answer my call He knows Pete would never do that for people rat him out in a heartbeat Tommy's prize for standing by his friend two years in prison Wow Finally it comes time for Pete to sit down with doubt

Go one-on-one with the guys running the investigation. No, he's gonna basically decide his fucking legacy, right? Dowd has a seven hour deposition. Where Pete- How long until Pete just runs through him? Where Pete refuses to acknowledge anything about betting on baseball. He said he was only guilty of quote, being a horseshit selector of friends.

He's, well, by the way, he was supposed to be able to pick a pony, but it, He's the horseshit. The hubris. It's crazy. Is off the charts, obviously, and you understand why, where it's motivated from, but that's still amazing to think that you can get away

with that shit. That's insane. What are you, a president? Ha ha ha ha! What, do you run a car company? Yeah. Doud could tell he was lying. He said, if Pete's lawyer was any good,

he'd wring Pete's neck until he realized his best option was to cut a deal. And there are many deals they're offering. No fewer than four deals are on the table. How about the investigation goes away if the Reds win tonight? Peter, come on. Trust me, I know how to get these guys working if I need to. Okay.

Two deals on the next game. Okay. How about we do a parlay all baseball based? If I win, I'm the commissioner of baseball. If I win, I never gambled on this sport. Yeah. So you brought has now stepped out. He's been replaced by Giamatti. All Pete needs to do is admit his wrongdoing, work on being a better person and he's not going to be banned for life.

I mean, they're giving him the biggest, the biggest get out of jail card. It's crazy. Especially knowing how it plays out. I mean, it's just like, bro, he, he can't lose. He cannot lose. He cannot lose. That's right. Yeah. Not only did Pete refuse, he went to war instead. Not only did Pete refuse, he went to war instead. Pete found a local judge who was up for reelection and got him a ton of positive press by having him place a restraining order on Pete's case, blocking the commissioner from ruling on it. Wow. That's so crazy. That's like, it doesn't even sound possible.

It's yeah, it's really just like I'm putting a restraining order on this. This case can't come within 300 yards of Pete Rose. So Giamatti is fucking livid, which we've seen on screen many times. Yeah, it's a dynamic performance. If you want to imagine what it looked like, picture Paul G. Monty going nuts. Well, hey. There you go.

Hey, Joshy. Yeah. Miraculously, Pete's ploy worked. Crazy. For about 24 hours. Oh, yeah. OK. The commissioner couldn't rule on the report,

but a lawsuit by the Cleveland Plain dealer forced the MLB to release it. I'm sure MLB was like, yeah. Yeah, we're ready. I'm sure they were. Oh, no. They were like, oh, you know what? We're going to drop all of our resistance to that. 3,000 pages on Pete Rose's just being a scumbag.

Anyone can look at it now. Starting the night of Monday, August 21st, 1989, five things happened in order. Pete and the Reds defeated the Chicago Cubs six to five. Got to win. Sure. Pete's wife, Carol, gave birth to the fourth child Pete cared about, but fifth one overall. Pete signed an agreement that he would be banished from baseball forever. Pete spent two hours in Minneapolis with a nice man named Alan selling memorabilia on a home shopping channel. shopping channel. Oh my God. What a day, right?

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use offer code dollop to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. That's squarespace.com slash dollop for a free trial and when you're ready to launch use offer code dollop to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Boom. Badda-gaboo. Hoogadabagah. domain. Boom. Body. Good boo. Who got a book? He signs a lifetime ban deal. Yeah. And that's for what? No criminal prosecution or what? It's got to be. I don't know how they I don't know why he signed the deal. It's it's got to be. And they have to be once that report. It's a 3000 page report that just...

It damns you completely. You're done. But it also just shows you why the fuck would you not take one of those earlier deals? Reporters met him in the shopping network... That's right. Now I remember why. Reporters met him in the shopping network studio parking lot and they knew. Everyone knows at that point.

MLB had called a press conference for the morning. He then had to call his own press conference. He fought to include language in the agreement that ensured it wasn't a denial or admission of guilt. So he thinks that's how he, his, his legacy save. He's threaded the line, right? He's got this, what a genius idea.

He thought if he's going to protect him, that he would ride the line. So he shocked when the commissioner goes on TV and said he believed Pete bet on baseball and more specifically the Reds. And Pete's like, how could he do that when he signed language saying that that wouldn't happen? But he had it totally

fucking wrong. He thought that he and MLB were committing to some sort of opinion based NDA. Right. That's not a thing. Right. Well, you want to make sure that before you were like, all right, good. The commission was allowed to say whatever he thought. Pete's only move was to deny that he bet on baseball,

while also having signed on to a permanent ban. I cannot believe thinking that that is how an investigation works. It's so dumb. It's so fucking dumb. I would even, up to this point, there is footage of so many investigations. But it's not even so fucking like that. I would even lead up to this point. There is footage of so many investigations, but it's not even so much an investigation that it's the court of public opinion

that he wants to like, but even then the idea that a prosecutor or someone investigating you can't say what they think. No, it's insane. That's all they do. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So dumb. Um, so, so he's, he's going to deny that he'd been on baseball, but he signed the permanent ban. You would only in the public side, you would only do that if you bet on baseball and didn't want any more information to come out. That's the first thing I thought I would. Without question. Why would you sign if you didn't do it? You fight it. You'd be like, fuck that.

So Pete didn't just look wrong. Now he looks stupid. Yeah, right. Nobody thought Pete would actually be banned for life, though. They're like, well, they'll come around. Everyone assumed he would repent, apologize and become a better man. The only punishment that fit the crime for Giamatti was to put on on baseball's band list. And Giamatti made his ruling and then just a few days later died of a heart attack. He was only 51. What the fuck? That's weird.

Giamatti quote, baseball will break your heart. Everyone blamed Pete for Bart's death. Good. Everyone blamed Pete for Bart's death. Good. Especially new commissioner and human marshmallow thumb, Faye Vincent. Sure, absolutely. I mean everyone but Pete. Quote, nobody ever said anything about how he smoked five packs of cigarettes a day and was 65 pounds overweight.

I don't think it had anything to do with me, but hey, he's the one who started the investigation. Holy shit. You gotta. Dude. By the way, by the way. My God. Shut the fuck up. You're so right to be like five packs of cigarettes a day.

However. Shut the fuck up. Buddy, read the fucking room. The guy just died. What are you doing? I didn't kill him. He's fat. He smokes.

He's a fat cancer boy. Yeah. No, you, this is such a great example of why all these athletes are PR now Yeah, and and it is like I mean that is what you think about is like the level of sanitization that these athletes now go through Yeah, oh, yeah, they are Social media all that they're unable to So much of it is about like that's what made the Harrison Butker shit where he was like giving that commencement address He's like women stay in the kitchen. That's what makes your marriage strong.

Don't be stupid. It was like so rare because you're like, holy shit. Yeah. But the amount of stuff that keeps coming out from like the chiefs where you're like, guys, yeah, enough. Wow. Yeah. How's it going? I mean, I don't know. I figured like we throw in the water and see if she's saying So now the IRS hits Pete on tax evasion another hit and He pleads guilty to two counts of filing false tax returns and was sentenced to five months in a white-collar Prison camp where he worked at the welding shop with another superstar criminal, John Gotti. Oh man. The facility had one TV. So Pete and the other inmates gathered around.

That's an HBO limited series. Yeah. Rose and Gotti. Yeah. Pete kicked out, so they sat down and watched the Cincinnati Reds a year after he was kicked off the team when the World Series. And that hurt. That hurt. The hardest part was not to call the bookie from the joint. He was like, oh god. I want so much money. Oh my god. When Pete was let out of prison, he still had to complete 1,000 hours of community service and he teached P.E. to underprivileged kids. So the best thing to do, kids, is bet. Dodgeball is fun, but do you know how fun it is to bet on your team winning or kicking

the shit out of another team, Mr. Rose? Hold on. Hold on now. On one of his first days, he called up his son to grab a Big Mac at a nearby mall for his lunch break. I bet you I can meet you in 15 minutes. At the McDonald's. He kept looking over his son's shoulder asking, quote, what's back there?

Pete shook his head. Pete Jr. shook his head. No, what's back there? What is it? Pete Jr. quote, no, what's back there? What is it? Pete Junior quote, dad, come on, you know what's back there. Batting cages. Oh.

Pete walked past the 55, 65, 75 pages to the, cages to the 85 mile per hour fastball cage. And a crowd formed because Pete fucking Rose was going to do batting practice at the mall. He turns on the machine and the first pitch shot out like a cannon and Pete smacked the shit out of it, hitting a laser. And then Pete turned to the crowd, quote,

something's never fucking changed. And then he exited the cage and finished his Big Mac You know, I'd call it pathetic Just having your son along on that fucking you knew what you were gonna do You wanted your son to see it like it's just also pathetic. Yeah, it's so fucking pathetic performative and yeah. Pete being banned from baseball didn't mean he couldn't make the hall of fame separate institutions.

The hall didn't usually discriminate based on inductees personal lives. As Pete loves to point out, the hall is full of drug abusers, cheaters and wife beaters. So Pete should just waltz on it. First ballot, he should get put in. It's so cool that he's right. He is right. And that it's just, is validating.

To just be like, yeah, it's full of a bunch of pieces of shit, what's one more? Yeah. Good point, Pete. But there should be, the Hall of Fame should have a room for dickheads. Yeah.

Barry Bonds and Pete Rose and all these guys. The asterisks. Who are fucking assholes. Yeah. Yeah, why not? Why not have that? This is a room of what it's like when you're a fucking asshole but great at baseball. Because otherwise you're just acting like that doesn't exist and it does exist. Yeah. And I think it is so, like there is the argument, like there were no rules against,

like this was an undefined, it's like, look, there were guys who knew about the existence of these PEDs and didn't take them because they're like, yeah, it's fucking shitty. And then Barry Bonds, his head was a blimp. But the thing about that is baseball encouraged them to take steroids. Yeah, right.

So what are you gonna do about that one? Barry Bonds shouldn't shouldn't. Barry Bonds problem wasn't they did steroids. Barry Bonds was a fucking asshole. And that's his biggest problem. He was a fucking piece of shit. But you can't. To other human beings. But you can't you in sports, you're not going to be able to not let someone in because of their personality. It's you know what I mean? Otherwise you not going to be able to not let someone in because of their personality You know what I mean? Otherwise you'd be like there's just three people in the hall But he's he's rarefied. He's a I don't know Enough I'll tell you a story. There was a guy in Pittsburgh and he worked in the media room and

a guy some worker at the Pittsburgh stadium died and the guy was like, we need to raise money for his family. So when a big star would come through and be like, Hey, making a cent of ball on a bat, we're going to auction it off for this guy's family. And when he went to Barry Bonds, he told them so-and-so died and we're doing this. And Barry Bonds looked at him and said, fuck you. And that guy who was said to be the nicest human being

in the world and never said a bad word about anybody for the rest of his life, anytime someone bought a Barry Bonds, he said, I hope Barry Bonds dies. That's how Barry Bonds affected people. He is a bad, bad person. And there's so many stories like that. I would hear them in San Francisco, like how much of a piece of shit he was. He was a terrible human being anyway. Um,

nice head though. Yeah. Great head. Thick. So he should get it on the first ballot, right? So you vote, if you're going to get in the hall of fame, people vote, writers vote. And then usually there's, I think there's five ballots and then you're not or something like that. There's a, there's a number of times they can vote on you over the years and then you're, then you're no longer eligible except there's another, this one other option they can do. But so they vote at first ballot. If you're really good, they make sure it's the first ballot right Ricky Anderson your first ballot like

guys like that Pete should be based on what he did sure he's the hits leader yes but everything changed the year before Pete was eligible when they added a rule banning anyone on MLB's ineligible list from being inducted into the Hall of Fame clearly Clearly about Pete Rose. I was going to say, I mean, obviously directed to him. And reporters are now pissed. They're supposed to have the keys to the Hall of Fame. Oh, you little one.

Yeah, they're such little fucking... Those people are just like, excuse me. You're fucking right. Fuck off. It shouldn't be done by reporters anyway. No, I agree. Even the ones who would have voted against Pete were pissed. But, chinless toad man, Fay Vincent, believed it was Bart Giamatti's dying wish

to keep Pete away from baseball forever, and he did everything he could to make sure it came true. Also, did I mention Pete is still gambling? Oh, fuck me. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Well, the truth is, I mean, I'm shocked, but the truth is, it's like, in an addict's brain, it's like, well, now I can really go. Yeah, I'm shocked, but the truth is, it's like, and then addicts brain it's like, well, now I can really go. Yeah, I'm not why stop now. Yeah. He needs money. He took gigs on sitcoms like our lists and Veronica's call closet. He played asshole Ty Cobb in he played asshole Ty Cobb in a movie about Babe Ruth.

He became a recurring character on WWE. He dressing up like the San Diego chicken, receiving a choke slam, a tombstone pile driver, and enduring a 300 pound Samoan rubbing his ass in his face for a very long time. Whoa. WWE Hall of Fame voters were less uptight and enshrined Pete in 2004.

They didn't know he was betting on it though. Yeah. 2004 was also when Pete, after 15 years, finally admitted to betting on baseball. Okay. By putting it in a tell-all book. Ah. If Pete was gonna come clean,

he was gonna make money doing it. Yeah. Debuted on the New York Times bestseller list over the years, the Veterans Committee of Hall of Fame, which was led by his friend and ex-teammate Joe Morgan, tried to get Pete into the hall. So they're trying really hard. I remember. I mean, I remember that being like... It was a big thing.

Yeah, it was huge. Yeah. But every single time, he did something to fuck it up. He got a job on the Fox telecast of the World Series and managed to actually be likeable enough to keep the gig. Until Pete heard a radio interview with the man whose investigation got Pete booted from baseball. John O'Dowd mentioned something that had been kept out of the report. He told the radio host that in his deposition with Pete's 19 year old memorabilia dealer, quote,

he told us, you know, he not only ran bets, but ran young girls down at spring training ages 12 to 14. Holy fuck, isn't that lovely? So that's statutory rape every time you do that. Holy fuck. So this guy, Dowd, clearly hates him. And he sees that the tide is turning a little bit. People are starting to like Pete again. People are like, he's not the bad of a guy. He's got all these players coming out for him

and then he hits, and he's just sitting there waiting for him and he goes, when you're ready, I got this fucking thing. And then as soon as he just did the right time, he drops a fucking bomb and that's your statutory rapist. You know, it's just, whenever you talk about a grown man sleeping with a 12 year old, it really does, I think publicly, it affects the optics. It's so fucking gross.

That is fucked. It's really fucked up. Like, oh, fuck me. You just start to get the age at some, I mean, it's like not, obviously not right, but 12 is. It's so disgusting. 12 is fucking ludicrous.

Jesus Christ. Instead of letting it go, keeping his lucrative job and becoming an liked and liked figure in sports. So this was not an obscure radio show. You could have just ignored it. Stray sand affected.

Pete sued him for defamation. Oh, fuck me. Now you're suing a fucking lawyer, an investigator. He's a prosecutor. So of course he has evidence. He had sworn testimony from a woman who claimed Pete slept with her when she was underage. What would have just been a little anecdote on the radio is now front page news on every sports site.

Pete was fired from Fox. The Phillies scrap plans to honor him when he's back out. It's that athlete mindset. Yeah, it is. Where they kind of are just like, I don't lose. Yeah. It's like sometimes you beat. Not only is it I don't lose, but they are raised to get away with everything. Yeah, and fallibility.

I'll never forget, like, Luis Suarez was a very good soccer player, but he like bit people. Dude, he was like a known biter. And the only way you get like that is if you just are allowed to get away with everything. And then you're allowed to get away with it until one day you can. And then you can't. Still Pete's old teammates and friends kept trying to get him, and by we say biting people, he would bite defenders on the field. Oh dude, he was we say biting people, he would bite defenders on the field. Oh dude, he was like, fully biting people.

It didn't help that he looked like Batboy from the Weekly World News, but he was fully biting people. It was like, people were like, he's biting people. Cameras got better. Eventually people were like, holy shit, he just bit the fuck out of that guy. Imagine how many times he bit people before he got there. Dude, so many times, people were like,

god damn it, and people were like, what are you doing? It's like, Suarez just bit my nipple. I was like, guys, come on. Still Pete's old teammate and friends kept trying to get him back in baseball's good graces. That's also so fucking disgusting. Isn't it crazy? Yeah. But that just, but that just goes to show like how much that behavior was acceptable because remember the

famous Chris Collins worth thing is he's like a rookie and he's being interviewed in some fucking, a rookie and he's being interviewed. Oh, yeah. He's like in some fucking it's like he's being interviewed in a bar and he's like, you know, he likes him under age. Yeah. Because it was common. Yes. Well, you know, we really had we had a like, it's been framed as cancel culture. But it was just like accountability time. It's accountability. There was like accountability time. Of all the terrible things that have happened in recent memory, it's that if you like the person you want them to get away with it and if you don't, then you're okay with someone

being held accountable. That's on both sides. Yeah, both sides. You have to have this line where you just go, look, we don't accept shitbags. We got, when we have a raker. But instead it just gets pushed as, yep, you just go. I mean, the amount of times where you're just like,

Donald Trump raped way more people than Bill Clinton. And you're like, how about this? Let's just do this. If you rape, you're out. Yeah, you're out. You're done. That was the thing about when Hillary was running against Trump. Either way, you would have a rapist in the White House. It was either Trump, the rapist, or the first man, the rapist.

Well, because Trump, I mean, Trump is look, Trump is like Trump Trump is going to fucking hit in the balls. When Trump brought all those women to a press conference who Bill Clinton had sexually harassed or assaulted or whatever, I mean, that was fucking effective. It was effective because there were skeletons in that closet. So, yeah, of course it's effective. Yes. And then when you just have it now with like,

I mean, comedy is funny politics. It's just like same shit. Sorry, some of you are getting fucking, some of you are getting hit and then others you're going to be allowed to keep going. Just how it is. And that's okay. We sit. We just live in it. Still Pete's old teammates and friends kept trying to get him back in baseball's good

graces. And in 2022, he was allowed to participate in a celebratory reunion of the 1980 Philadelphia Phillies championship team. There, a young female reporter brought up the statutory rape charges to him. His response, quote, that was 55 years ago, babe. I just, I just. I can you not? Yeah. No, you can't, because it's within you, it's in you. Yeah, it's in your, yes.

It's impossible if you're not technically made up like this. When the AP followed up, he quipped, quote, who cares what happened 50 years ago? You weren't even born. I know, dad. So you shouldn't be talking about it, because you weren't born. I think I'm not going to believe this.

This wasn't received well. By whom? I mean, we're talking about middle of the Me Too movement, right? 2022. Yeah, but still, I mean, he's so charming. He can hit a ball. Any growing momentum to get Pete in the Hall of Fame was over. So Pete did what any person who needs money does.

I'll bet you $100,000. I don't get into the Hall of Fame. He moved to Las Vegas. Oh fuck! There he signed Memorabilia for a living. Anything people brought for five hours a day for 15 days a month. He's OJing. Yeah. Pete did this until he died. He signed balls with his name. The hit king 400 and 4192. But also I didn't do steroids. What's he saying? Yeah, he's like, I'm not as bad as those guys. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he that lane is left open, but it's an angle. Yeah, I Was the first man on the moon and I'm sorry. I shot JFK. Oh

So he's being what he's like just like I'm the victim of all these crimes that I know did I really do anything bad? Yeah, dude, it's not sure right. Yeah, that is really fucking horrifying. Yeah, but to be fair that was 55 years ago One of his best sellers, sorry, I bet on baseball, which you can buy on eBay right now for about $350. Wow. Pete Rose represents the true heart of America, oversell what little talent you have, lie as much as you possibly can, and if you ever get in trouble, monetize it. He died last year.

Who cares? He had a daughter on Melrose Place. I looked her up and then she vanishes. I looked her up to see her career. She's an actress, actress, and then she's just gone around 2004 or something. I think when, I feel like she didn't want to be in the photo at some point.

Sources, Charlie Hussle, The Rise and Fall of Pete Rose and the Last Glory Days of Baseball by Keith O'Brien, Charlie Hussle and the Matter of Pete Rose by Mark Monroe, The Hit King, Pete Rose, Impergatory by Scott Aarab, BaseballRoverage.com and research by Josh Androski. research by Josh. You know what I always remember is, I never watched a lot of baseball, but when Jim Gray asked him a question during an All-Star game, and it was like, it was, Jim Gray like asks him like Jim Gray. make some sort of apology to that effect? No Jim, no I don't. I'm not going to admit to something that happened. I know it's hard to hear me say that, but I appreciate the ovation, I appreciate the American fans voting me on it all century

and I'm just a small part of a big deal tonight. With the overwhelming evidence that is in that report, why not make that step with the company? It's a defensive night to worry about that. I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. Show it to me. I mean, I doubt we what you were talking about. Show it to me. I mean, I doubt it. We keep saying it, but we don't want to make that statement.

Well, why not? Why do we want to hear everything he says? He signed a paper acknowledging the ban. Why did you sign it if you didn't agree to it? It also says I can apply for a re-statement after one year. Did you remember the first Congress? You know, if I had my statement, the ones I can't reach from my little girl would be a year old so I could fight for reinstatement. I had my first Congress. So you forgot to add that clause that was in there.

Well, you have a reapplied, you have a applied for reinstatement in 1997. Have you heard back from Mr. Seidler? No, and that kind of surprised me. It's only been two years, though. He's got a lot of things on his mind, but I hope to someday. He has been 10 years since you've been allowed on the wheel. Obviously, the approach that you've taken, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've

been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it, the way you've been doing it He just keeps hammering him. He's allowed to be in a home game.

He keeps hammering him. I remember after that, everyone was like, what the fuck is Jim Gray's problem? It was so much of it was just like, Jim Gray is such a fucking asshole. And Jim Gray is a dislikeable piece of shit. He's done a lot of stupid shit. He's fucking annoying. But I, like I had a bias against Jim Gray for so long because I was just like, he see, Pete Rose seemed like nice and Jim Gray seemed like a prick. Now you know, I Pete, Pete Gray, Jim justifiably, Jim Gray justifiably hated Peter.

Yeah. Justifiably. And he's hammering him at the moment he gets a. Because like the news... I mean, first of all, that news about the 12 and 14 year old girls thing that dropped, like that was in the middle of all these guys having it dropped on them. Yeah. You know?

Like that was like the me too shit was like, it was coming from every... Yeah. So you can get lost in that a little bit. Yeah. You know? It was, you know, it just, it is, it is just so fucked up. And this just has, this is basically the history of America

to some extent is you have these moments, it feels like there's a cultural shift and as soon as there's an opportunity to weaponize it against the movement, that happens, momentum stops and there's some sort of counterculture against it. And we're in this fucking phase now where it's like you could not be more in the, the, the tide is going back in the other direction of even the modest gains we made. It done. It doesn't feel like it matters anymore. That's why there's a reeducation camps. It's true. Like you're like, what do I do with you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you really are just like, what the

fuck? Like, I don't know. I mean, yeah, well, what a despicable piece of shit. And there we go. Here we go. Pete Rose, all time hit king of Major League Baseball. So a lot has happened in the two weeks since we recorded. But this episode isn't done. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

Yeah. It's been two weeks since we recorded and a lot has happened. One of the reasons that I did choose now to do it was because I knew that Trump was pushing for Pete Rose to be reinstated into baseball. And I also saw how MLB was immediately caving on that. So I thought it might happen. And what do you know? Yeah, I think you as usual have a good eye towards that stuff.

But it is the timing is because did you think it was going to be happening that quickly? No, no, but I knew it would. It would. I thought it would take a little bit longer. I thought baseball wouldn't do like just roll over that fast, but you know, they're all pathetic and they did. So he just got reinstated. Yes, he's not in the Hall of Fame, but he's reinstated to baseball. He's going to be in the Hall of Fame.

Now he can be, but not necessarily because the writers still have to vote. And remember, the writers like haven't voted for some of the greatest players ever because they took steroids back when baseball wanted them to take steroids. I actually believe one of the bigger reasons why they can't get them into the Hall of Fame and they won't elect them is because the busts

would take up so much room because those heads. Big heads. Got so big during the Roy era. Also what color would Sammy Sosa's bus be? That is hard to know. Well it could over time. It could over time start to fade. That would be the greatest if they found a way.

They found a material where Sammy Sosa can slowly blanch. So yeah, so and look, like I've said this, I think I said it on the podcast, but I think that all players should be in the Hall of Fame who are good enough, and then you put on their plaque the bad things they did. It makes no sense to have a Hall of Fame without the best players in it,

just because they're bad guys. It's the Hall of Fame. It's not the good guy fame walk of studs. It's not the best character fame. What's up? Yeah, so yeah, so that's my feeling on it. Like Barry Bonds is just like a notorious piece of shit and he should be in the Hall of Fame.

Does he get a dollop? Well, it's steroids and it's like, yeah, he might get a dollop. But like, you know, all these guys throughout baseball have done drugs and been racist and like there's some terrible fucking people in the Hall of Fame. So it's really arbitrary. Ty Cobb's an off-fame. Yeah.

And people say like, well, this one's about betting. Okay, so let's take that argument. So we don't allow people who bet on baseball in the Hall of Fame. So we kicked them out of baseball. So let's say there's the best player in baseball and he's in a betting scandal. We already heard how baseball, the first time Pete Rose got caught, they covered it up. So let's say the best baseball players, hits tons of home runs, pitches, let's say he's caught in a betting scandal,

does baseball want that investigation to just happen and figure out what the truth is? Or does baseball wanna hide it? So that's what happens when you take a thing like this and say, he's out of baseball. Well now you're talking about fucking money. And it's a really big player. It's so similar to this country's this country's inability to actually want truth. Yeah, doesn't want it.

Don't want it. Yeah, thinks it gets in the way thinks it makes us feel bad. So we're not going to want it. Doesn't want it. Yeah. Thinks it gets in the way, thinks it makes us feel bad, so we're not going to do it. I mean, it's a really sort of tough position to be in because you shouldn't be allowed to bet on baseball as we talked about in the thing. But also, if a guy is betting on baseball and he's Judge or Ohtani or whatever he is, one of the big guys, they're going to fucking cover that shit up. Yeah.

They're going to cover it up. No, they do. So, you know, that's where I'm at with it. So whatever. He's reinstated. OK. He's reinstated. Well, speaking of your prescient nature,

we should just quickly allude to the fact, this was Preston's idea, that we made a joke about Kristi Noem and Trump coming up with a show where you basically said that this show is going to happen where it's going to be five families to see who can get citizenship. And from your lips to the production company of the guys who did Duck Dynasty's ears, because ears because now there is actually this idea of a reality show about get your citizenship for families that are not do not have legal status. What do you do?

DHS is now denying it, but like it's so funny to me like, oh, now we're going to believe DHS. Like, yeah, this seems obvious that they do it not person. I think it was Kristi Noem who pitched it like it was DHS. I think it was just her on her own. She's cosplaying. She's cosplaying all over Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. It's all about fame for her and like getting out in front and she probably wants to host it and everything else. So yeah, take it over the fact that Christie Gnome shot her puppy. Just cricket's gone person crickets gone. And now just kill the dog,

killed the dog. She killed the dog. She killed her own dog. There's a goat too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She killed the dog and a goat and she's like, that's what we do on a farm and all the farmers like, I do it a hundred times And all the farmers are like, no, actually it's not what we do. She's like, I do it 100 times out of 100 times. We'll keep this woman away from dogs. And now she's in charge. She's got our ethical standard of what to do with fake criminality.

Anyway, we're excited for that show. So anyway, there you go, everybody. Enjoy everything. Pete Rose is going to be in the Hall of Fame probably and Kristi Noem, admitted killer of cricket, the dog and a goat is running the secure... Oh my god Hey dollop fans, I know you love the dollop you love listening to the dollop Do you want to watch the dollop you're like Gareth? What are you talking about? By the way? It's not Gary It's Gareth. Well, we have partnered with lakeside animation and we are starting to animate some of our episodes

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