The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 697 - Bo Gritz - Part Two

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine military guy Bo Gritz - Part Two of Three SOURCES TOUR DATES OFFICIAL MERCH   Nutrafol - use code: Dollop Squarespace - use code: Dollop

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I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to a grifter. Garretre Reynolds, who knows what the topic is... Who doesn't know what the topic is going to be. You, the cat is out of the cat. That's called birth. That is birth. Yeah, the cat had a baby. You know, cats can have...

A litter of cats can have more than one father. Did you know that? No. Yeah. A litter of cats can have a different father. fathers. Those dirty little cat. They get out there and they, uh, that's why they keep howling after they get banged once.

They're like, keep it going. They like, man, lady cat is having a night. You know what's always made me laugh about cats? They have litters and then they use litter. Now, that's pretty interesting. I thought we were having a good time with the facts. No, no, no, but just think about that for a minute. Now that must get pretty confusing down at the old cat factory.

Hey, how was your litter? It was good. I used it this morning. I pooped in it. You pooped in your litter? Of course. What else is there for? Those are your babies.

I mean, now once they come out of me, that's what poop is. Your babies, you pooped on your babies? Yeah. Well, no. Then why just say the litter? Oh, man. Anyway, you can watch Gareth. I'm a cat stand-up tour, which is just.

just cat material, him as a cat. You can go to garrath thrones.com, click tour, and there's a cat tap. And just hit that. Oh, this is part two of the Bogrites. What? Oh, yeah, right. August 30th, 1993.

So, Bo's come back from... Can we just say, what a part one. He's come back from his latest mission. and he, whoops. Yeah, he's come back. He basically answers the question, what if Steven Seagall was a war grifter? Well, he's now an icon.

He came back more famous than ever. He's the one brave man who has enough balls to go back to the southeast Asian jungle. So far we've been on a hate tour. I just started hating Hollywood. I already hated politics, the military I hated, and now we're hating, like, the talk show circuit. Sure, yeah.

He's going to save our POW boys, right? He's the one guy. He's the one, even though in actuality he hadn't saved anyone. He lost the guy. And if that created one POW and then abandoned him and then fled to America. But still, he has now seen as, like, this badass who's going to get our boys back. That's great. Yeah, now it's time for Bo's big reveal.

A congressional subcommittee invites him to present his evidence. The nerves that must have been gone through. You think he gets nervous or he's such a liar that he's like, I got this. I think he's a liar and I think that he's getting so much positive feedback from the press and the talk shows and everything else that, yeah, that he thinks he can say whatever he wants. So the congressional, this hearing, it's the biggest spotlight he's ever going to have on him. And he's ready for it. As his first bit of proof, he presented a bag of bones to the U.S. Embassy in Thailand to be analyzed.

He presented that to, wait. Proof that there's POWs. But who did he present that to? He gave it to the U.S. Embassy in Thailand. Oh, okay, I gotcha. Hey, Beau. Anything else? I found these bones at a P.O.W camp.

It's just a little hard for us to. Let you know that they work. They're working our men to death out there. So the POWs are dead. So what is the point? No. This one was alive. You abandoned him and I could have got him out.

I mean, these are bones. And then I got, by the time I got to him, he was bones. But he wanted, he wanted out. He wanted out. Okay. I had been sucking the bones to tell what his last thoughts were. so those bones were delivered to those bones were delivered to richard armadage it's also funny to imagine him just finding these bones like that's perfect like he's on a little bone mission

so they're delivered to richard armadage in dc he's done a lot of work for the u.s. government armadage at the time he was the state department southeast asia chief. Before that, he was allegedly involved with the Phoenix program, which was a Vietnam war program to bring corporate management system to torture and murder of innocent civilians, so it would be more efficient. Yeah. Which we later do under Bush.

Yeah. It's Abu Ghraben. Later in his life, he leaked the CIA agent's name to the press because she wasn't pro-Iraq war enough, which was the valid. or he's playing a fair. Mm-hmm. And he also might have been one of the main guys in Iran-Contra. So, guys.

He's great. He's a real player. So Armitage testifies that Bo's bag of bones don't actually include any American bones. Okay. So he's standing in the way of the bone bag. Yeah. Which is what I call my scrotum. In fact, it turns out the bone.

are mostly pig bones It's you know what is great about this guy Is it's it's that he's like it's he lazy lies yeah he like doesn't go Yes like he's not like he's not really trying too hard he's kind of just like you know what I mean It's just like he's just like doing a science project with what he has on the kitchen table like like our president Oh come on But it's it The idea of, like, the ability, the, the Cajonese to go to an embassy and present a bag of bones like P-O-W bones only to have someone be like, there's snout cartilage in here.

What do you? Which guy had a little curly tail? A lot of them did. And they were hoofed. So in Bo's biggest moment when the subcommittee chairman asked him to present the pictures from that undeveloped. roll of film. Bo said that he was the wrong, he used the wrong setting on the camera

and the pictures hadn't turned out. Oh my God. God damn it. I had my, I had my finger in front of the thing. Ah, so. You know, I don't know, I don't know F stops. The cap was on.

Classic mistake. As this is all unfolding, people in high places, who had been sick of Bo for a while now, started to take action against him. Okay. So Ted Sampley, the former editor of the U.S.

Veterans News and reports, said he was approached by the Reagan administration to spy on Bo. This is, the story is so off-kilter that Reagan... Well, he's making the government look bad. Yeah, right.

So the Republicans hate the government that helps people, people, but they love the military. So he is attacking. He's making his military look bad. Yes. So that they can't have. Right.

Quote, they were spying. Okay. That's just, quote, they were spying on Bo Greitz. I testified about this in front of the Senate select committee. Grites became the victim of a smear campaign. He challenged the U.S. government and found himself being called the fruitcake, an idiot of Charlotte. Why don't you ask my psychic what she thinks? Go ahead, Charlotte.

Despite this huge setback on the national stage, Bo promised to go back and find our boys. Dave. It's time to get them out, Gareth. It's time to get... Bring them back! Won't they actually be dying of natural causes soon in this timeline? How long do you think these POWs are going to exist there?

I mean, this is... They probably started new lives by now. Let them go. They're either not there anymore or they're done. I don't know what year we stopped doing this, but it went on. I remember while it was going on, I was just like, how old are they? Like, what's happening? In my brain, my first thought was always, why not just kill them?

You know what it is? It's like the stories of those in the Philippines when those soldiers were like, like the story I did on the guy who like was gone for 23 years. That's what they think is happening But there was like a few of those guys And it's not happening Well, because the only reason to keep a POW The keepers of the POW camp would be like

You do it you do it for a return Yeah You're keeping them to get something from the country When do they make contact for the leverage? They never do they're just like We just want these guys here Like it does give them back Give who back

Give that back Yeah the whole thing doesn't make any sense And yet everyone is, and they yet talk shows are like, it's an honor. Okay, yeah. So it's great. So Colonel Earl Hopper, vice chairman of the POW MAA organization, Task Force Omega, remembered it this way. Quote, Bo continued his operations trying to locate POWs,

but each time his operation got underway, he was sabotaged. by the U.S. government. This was a stab in the back, a perfidious act, in my opinion. So because you can't win, this is a situation where even the government, you can't win because you do want to stop

him. He's a fucking grifter. He's giving hope to people who shouldn't have hope that they're which is a check in the mail of bad news and makes you look bad. I mean, it's all just... He's a fake representative of your bullshit but you're also like,

It's almost the perfect griff because when the government comes after you, you can just go, see? Yeah. Like it's, yeah. Yeah. So, Bo. And then if it fails, you go, the government fucked with us. Yeah. Every time.

So the Bo goes back to Southeast Asia. Who's running the passports? Like, someone should just be like, sir, no. No. You're not allowed to go across Pacific anywhere. We x-rayed your bag and it's a lot of bone. Big bone. I'm bringing the pig bones back to where they belong.

I'm giving them a proper burial. These pigs deserve an honorable burying. So, Gareth, this is Operation Broken Wing. Sure. A name because it's supposed to result in the rescue of a P.O.W. With one broken leg. Which is obviously not a wing, but. And how do they know this P.O.W. has a broken leg?

God, they got sources, Reynolds. This time I didn't put my finger. over the line. So, Bo's learned a lesson. And this time didn't do all the crazy shit he did before the other missions. He didn't call all the press.

He did invite a psychic. He didn't. There are no blondes. No sex workers. You can say it. But the mission is still it's not great. Okay. After Bo claims that an exiled

Laotian general named Kong Lee traded him three P.O.Ws in exchange for a boat ride to Paris. Bo is saying that he got three P.O.Ws? Yeah. In exchange for a boat ride to Paris because that's what he's giving a guy. That's what Laotian generals want. People don't know. I've always seen myself as Parisian.

I want to open a boulangerie. I want to go to Paris. I really would love that. Do they really call it gay Paris? Now, are you French because you're... We, we. He found a French lady, a fake French lady. I'm obsessed with the French concha. I love it.

So since this is being prearranged, they didn't need to call in the helicopters or anyone else in the military to come to their aid. I cannot wait to see what happens with these three fake POWs. Well, so, no, no, he didn't get them yet. The plan. Oh, he's getting planned. He's made a plan.

Right, right. Wait for the people. P.O.Ws at a rendezvous point on the Mekong River at midnight. Sure. So according to Bo, as soon as midnight comes, they start getting radio signals, picking them up. It's the prisoners. Wait. So, hold on.

They're talking on the radio. He had time to plan this. And in his bullshit, he's supposed to meet, he's just, the POWs are just going to walk up alone. No, they're going to be dropped off. Yeah. So at midnight, they start making radio contact instead of just walking up to the rendezvous. I think the people who are in charge of them are letting them use the radio. In what weird.

Jesus, you're head, man. You're going to see them in five minutes. Hey, hey. Why don't you guys call them just to say what's up? And then you can see them. Just tell me at your name and your eye color. Yeah, we'll just get the hellos out of the way, so this thing goes pretty quick. I guess say what you're wearing, so they don't confuse you with other POW?

Just explain what, just tell them how it's been, and then that'll save you some time when you're on the boat to not have to catch up like that. We're actually doing lunch orders real quick, so just calling your lunch order to your group. So Bo puts on his night vision goggles, and he sees, yeah, the POWs are on their way down the river and little dingies. but just as they were getting close sharks boom a power boat came out of nowhere and ran over the three dinghies

but the POWs survived but they were now forced to turn around they were forced to turn around and head back to prison so close he had them until a bigger boat knocked them over and now they have to go back to POW camp. There's a lot of people who are...

He really, the idea that he came up with, like he had hours, days, weeks to think of this. Sounds like our government's trying to stop it again. It's very Epstein. But it was very, this whole thing is very... It's very Epstein. But Bo wasn't about to give up the rescue attempt. The next night, he crawled toward the prison in the underbrush, but someone, and saw him and shot a rocket at him.

He survived that somehow. The rescue attempt did end there. But not because Bill got scared by the rocket, only because the media discovered he was in Laos, which may have been leaked by his own government. So he returned to the U.S. again without a P.O.W. A rocket? They shot a rocket.

Yeah, that happens. Why would you shoot or send a mend-down? And then the media knows. but the people in the camp already know anyway. So why does the media letting anyone know real? Like you could do the mission for another day. I'm tired of your questions, obviously. Because they're logical.

Well. So Bo goes back home and he moves to Nevada. Imagine I'm calling like the Booker of the Tonight Show. I'd like to come back. I have a pretty good new little story. It wasn't, I think it was daytime talk shows. I was like morning shoes. I was like, yeah.

I'd like to come back to Good Morning Columbus. It's like Donny. It's shit like that. Oh, my God. Oprah. Sally Jessie. Well, Sally Jesse. It got pretty hairy out there.

Well, I shouldn't say Oprah because why would Oprah have Bo Gritz on when she really just has high quality people like Dr. Oz? She didn't have fake war heroes. She just fake doctors. So he's in Nevada. I remember the first time I saw Dr. Oz and I was. I was like, this guy's making a lot of sense.

You know what I mean? I was like, yeah, clearly. Look at that. He gets it. I should be drinking chia seeds. So, Beau, Bo spends his, isn't she, aren't she seeds fine? Yeah, yeah. He spent his downtime in the desert.

Of course. He's in Nevada, training the same Afghan Mujahideen who would then become the Taliban. He is legit training the Mujahideen? Mm-hmm. Who is letting that happen? Yeah, I don't know why he was doing that. Like who would at this point be like, you should be in charge of this?

Unless they were like, we want the movie. He's still working with that stupid Army CIA thing. Of course it would be that. Because the Army is full of fucking idiots. Well, that's a pretty good answer. It's really, I mean, think about the guy, like, the, the. Oh, my God.

The liberals love Powell and think about what a monster he was. I just remembered I had a dream last night that I was near Pete Hegseth and he smelled horribly and he had like horrible halitosis. I had a dream that we got another dog. We're both doing good stuff. This is a helix commercial actually. Helix. Imagine what Pete Hegseth smells like. Okay, so he's training the Mujahideen after one of these sessions he gets a call. And it's from Tom Harvey, Ronald Reagan's National Security Council staff officer, and he told Bo to pack his bags.

The world's greatest drug lord might have an army of POW slaves that needed to be liberated. and Bo was the man for the job. Why? Because he's not a national hero. One of two things is happening. And it's definitely not the first, which is that they've made up a fake mission to just get him out of America for a little while.

So it's either that one or they're the dumbest. Or they want him to go attack the world's greatest drug lord and die. They want him to die. But also remember, they are, I mean... Oliver North is part of these people. Armitage is part of these people. I mean, it's really a collection of fucking idiots.

It's, they're really dumb. And we saw this whole era and we were like, now this needs to be replicated forever. Well, the right has always been doing this shit. It's never stopped. But this is like, isn't this right around when it was like, oh, now we're getting it. We're figuring it out.

I mean, they're doing Iran Contra. Yeah, that's what I mean. They're deep in all kinds. That's what I mean. They're like, this is the model now. Yeah, I mean, I guess. Yeah, I mean, they always did this, dude. But this is like, Reagan was the one where you were like, yeah, okay.

Yeah, I mean, the mask is off. But, I mean, no, because the mask was off during Nixon. Like, he literally, he literally stopped. He stopped the peace process. Then we put a mask on for a minute. I don't know when the mask was on. For like a minute. When Carter was doing a genocide and.

I didn't, by the way, I didn't know about that until not too long ago. Oh, Jimmy. Okay, so Coonsah was the world's greatest drug lord. He ran the Golden Triangle, the world's largest producer of opium and heroin. And it's estimated at one point he produced half of the planet's heroin valued it over a billion dollars a year. Nice. So to protect his massive cash crop, Coon assembled an – Koon Sa assembled an army of over 10.

10,000 armed men and a fortified camp in the jungle. And Bo is going to bring some sex workers and some weirdos he lied to with him. Yeah, in a balloon. And a plane that you can blow up like a pontoon. And one day, Bo Grites just strolls into the camp. Dude, what the fuck? Hello. Hi, boys.

How are you? What's going on in here? He did not notify it. He did not notify Kuntzah before. He just showed up. Hi. What are you doing? The only things he brought were two cameramen and a lie detector test.

Man, it's time for you to answer some questions. Well, Army of 10,000 and man who produces half the world's heroin. We sit in this chair and we can put some electrodes on your fingers. Let's just settle this. All right. Now, we're not leaving until each one of you takes a lie detector. These people are with the Washington Post. So we don't know why he brought the light of detective test because it never got around to that.

But the cameraman immediately started filming as Bo walks in and shouts for the world's most powerful drug lord to come down and meet him. What is he doing? He's schooltizing? I think that he is now projected himself as a type of person and he has to live up to it. even then what was good about before was he would go on the bullshit and bring back the bluster yeah now he's forgotten that step and he's just going full bluster full bluster from beau's autobiography quote in my mind's eye i could see kunsa as some giant star wars style job of the hut living in a jungle covered tash mall slurping up virgin surrounded by an army of a pocket Now type mercenaries. This is so unacceptable for this to get up in your own book. This is his book.

In my mind's eye, I was picturing Jabba the Hut. Imagine the guy who, like, showed him Star Wars. He's like, that was a fucking mistake. I should say, man, that'd be all right. Yes, wars, stars, good. So he's surprised to be met by a short, normal-looking guy from Myanmar, smoking a cigarette and wearing combat fatigues. Luckily, luckily for Bo, he loves the shit's ball.

He loves the, Bo's like rolling in like a tough guy. He's like, all right, you're crazy. I love it. He graciously welcomed Bo into his home slash Army Base place. What? It's working? Yeah, because this is the type of guy you're like, look at this crazy asshole. Like, you don't.

You're like, look, game respects game. Yeah. Good for you. Bo, quote, I noticed the throbbing vein in his neck And now thought how easy it would be To rid the world of its most infamous drug lord I could break a stack of seven bricks Coonsaw's neck would snap like a twig

That is that Coonsaw who he's talking to So he literally walks in And the fucking leader's like, come out, you live in Well, if I'm Bo I, Dennis Rodman, North Korea that shit right there I'm like, I'm not gonna leave. Yeah, this is awesome. Yeah.

This is great. Yeah. Luckily for Kuntzaw, Bo was, held himself back from snapping the neck. So the two men started talking and immediately about the army of POW slaves. And as the cameras roll, Kuntzaw waved his hand away in a ridiculous way that says it's just a rumor. When you're the world's most infamous drug lord, tall tales get woven around you. See, here's why he's telling the truth. He's like, I'm the druggler.

I don't need that. I'm a big drugler. Why would I need that? He's confessing to, like, the crime. He's like, I have 10,000 men. Why would I need, like, a couple hundred guys who just bring trouble on me. Like, why would I do that? Just release a couple of them.

Put two of them in whiteface and hand him to me. But Bo's not done. And Coonsaw clearly had a light schedule that day because they keep talking for another two hours. There's footage of this? Yeah, apparently. Yeah. Do you see the game last night? So the thing they talked the most about

was the fact that the biggest customers for heroin in the world were working for the U.S. government. It's just, this is honestly so good that it's happening. Kunza named names, CIA agents, CIA agents, Daniel Arnold and Jerry Daniels, CIA deputy director for covert operations Ted Shackley and lastly

Bo's enemy Richard Armitage Armitage it would turn out was the bag man who brought in the dirty money to be laundered at the Nugan Hand Bank

of Australia So So Boe's gone on a VOD fighting mission That doesn't exist But because he just walked into this This truck lord zone

is now getting the details of who in the CIA is buying all of the heroin illegally for the drug lord that they sent him to release the prisoners from. That's right. He's actually doing good work. I don't think that... I don't...

Would you classify this as good work? Yes. It is because it's like, yeah. No, because the guy who sent him was the National Security Council staff officer Tom Harvey. So he probably doesn't know that the CIA is... But I mean good work for like us. Like in the greater good, he's actually doing a...

No, I was just answering your question of like, the government is doing it to itself. No, it's different parts of the government. Like, they didn't send him knowing... Yeah, that he would... It's different parts. So the guy who sent him didn't know that he would... Yeah.

But it's great. Because, like, if you have two hours of footage of them being like, here are all the people in the CIA we're buying heroin, you're like, what? That's good to know. So Kuntzaw offers an olive branch to America and all its citizens who are suffering from all the heroin addiction. It's just like, which one's my camera? For $150 million and the recognition of a state for his ethnic group, Kuntzal will destroy all the heroin. Now, okay. If you're America, this is a good deal.

No, you don't want that. Well, yeah, if you're like in earnest America. If you're like a regular person, this is a good deal. It's good deal. But the government is obviously like, no, we need that. Well, because that's, yeah. Yeah, this is what they... They're using heroin and cocaine to profit their shit or whatever.

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Okay, so he was the guy who made the... He was like the cue. Although maybe we have never seen these tapes. I had the wrong exposure level. Okay, whatever. So I should have figured out before. I should have talked to Josh before. This was actually...

Because it gets so confusing as to what's... What we know is real and what isn't real. What's Bo's real and what's real. Right. So one of the cameramen was a lot... But we do know the CIA was traffic's drugs. whatever. One of the cameraman was a loyal compatriot of Bose named Scott Weekly in charge in making poison darts for Operation Lacerus Omega. He had helped Bo train the future Taliban

and his nickname was Dr. Death. Once we're now in a Marvel cartoon, once Dr. Death arrived at home in San Diego, he was picked up by the ATF and customs department. who proceeded to tell him that Bo sold weapons to Iran while he was working in South America. Essentially, they're saying that Bo did Iran-Contra. So many hits. Now, this is before the scandal broke. So they're accusing him of doing Iran-Contra before Iran-Contra breaks. Big was mainstream.

Desperate to get Dr. Death to testify against Bo, they popped him with a charge. traveling with 200 pounds of explosive. Now, that is a wild accusation, but it is also kind of true. What? Because that's what they were using to train the Afghans on behalf of members of the U.S. military. Oh, my God. There is so much going on. Once you get up into the high idiot echelons, there's so few people doing the dumbest shit that they all kind of know each other.

Right. That's what I learned by reading the Oliver North book and the reading other stuff is that there's really just a small group of these fucking idiots doing really dumb shit. Right. Yeah. Which is good. Yeah, it's really great. It's like how America's, you know, 21 companies. It's like, yeah.

So, bummer calls talking to Scott and a pre-trial hearing call. I shouldn't call him Scott, right? I was going to say, I mean, the guy went. It's a medical school for so long. You're right. You're right. Bo recalls talking to Dr. Death in her pretrial holding, quote, they were trying to get me to stop talking about Coonsaw. Don't believe anything the government says to you.

It was all set up. The day he appeared before the judge, those U.S. agents did not show up for him. And the judge, instead of dismissing the charges, gave him five years at Lompoc. Gave Bo? No, Dr. Death. Oh, Dr. death right of course but that's scary for all the all the inmates for sure don't buy toilet paper off the doctor dad come on get it do you guys want some cool soaps so bow's friend called to

warn him and the call was tapped by major chuck johnson with the national security agency who quoted bow's best friend in an affidated quote they say you're in for a real shit blizzard unless you knock off all current activities you've got got no option you're going to get taken care of you got to erase and forget everything you are going to hurt the government and get hurt unless you do exactly as i say i cannot believe he is now in this level of he's like importance now he's important but this this just like if you read about the shit the government does they don't take it to the level i mean i mean these idiots that i'm talking about the all over north and these guys they never take it to the level of i'm going to kill

a bow a bow grites who knows too much they never kind of right like the CIA would but we're not talking about the CIA right the CIA would yeah they'd be like yeah okay but not these idiots right so whatever though quote the government my government was saying you erase and forget or we're going to bury you it made me angry if you want to do something tell me I can't and that's exactly what I'm going to start to do. Okay, we want you to do it. Fuck. Good.

God damn it. I feel like I really set myself up for that one. And we want you to bring a lot of journalists with you when you do it. Son of bitch. And? No, I won't. Fuck. Hold on.

Where are we? We want you to try it now. No, no, no. Don't. I'm not going to do it. Good. I won't. Good.

No reporter. Good. Fuck. No wait, bad. Yes. Damn it. For you, for two years, the next two years, the shit blizzard dumped down on Bow's head.

The government desperate to get something on him, charged him with using the passport of another. He probably did do that. He probably did. Come on. Well, it's actually bullshit because because of his work, he was given three passports and he used them because he was supposed to. Right.

Finally, in April of me. 1989 there was a grant but again remember he's doing stuff where they said that never mind i can't i'm so i'm so confused by how much bullshit it's going on so finally in april of 1989 there was a grand jury trial and 19 separate witnesses were called against bow but his lawyers noticed something the u.s. attorney brought the wrong charges against bow uh so the case was to smith there's no way they didn't do that on purpose there's no way they didn't do that on purpose they had have done the U.S. attorneys are so fucking on top.

They don't take you to trial unless they have you fucking nail. So what is the pitch there? Why would they do that? I don't know. But that just just seems like really weird to me that a U.S. attorney would do something. Just clerical error. I mean, by the way, that is not like a typo. No. It's so egregious. All right. So he stole a lot of bikes.

Wait. Here. No. When reporters asked the U.S. attorney why he even went forward with the case, he replied, quote, George Bush called me up and told me to get Bo Grites. That's VP Bush. Right, right.

That's Bush 1. As a man who has seen several conspiracies perpetrated by the United States government and who has been hounded in an attempt to silence him, one can forgive Bo for waiting into some of other conspiracy theories. But during the debacle of a trial, Bo didn't just wait. He jumped headfirst into conspiracy. Oh, God. So, yeah. They, whatever was left of him is now broken. This is bad.

Now he's cue. Now he's queuing. From a friend, quote, one morning Beau wakes up. Bo wakes me up. All excited. Coffee's brown cocaine. Reading me passages from a book called the Gods of Eden. The gods of Eden is about how ancient aliens created war and religion as population control.

And now the brotherhood of the snake was formed in Sumeria to try and stop them. Do you understand? were Sumerian brotherhood snake. How did you sleep? Fuck. So now... So now he's up all night reading books. Now he's reading books.

He's gone. He's gone. By the way, wasn't here. No. Dad, do you realize that we're actually all just snakes from Sumeria? But we're on... We're near the episode, no, middle of episode two of three. Yeah. And now we're...

Episode two of three. We're at the midpoint. Yeah. We're about to... It's a sense of him, like, wearing human flesh just like, I am the double God. Bo now believe that JFK was killed by Nazi bomb makers, that AIDS was created by the federal government,

that Jonestown was a U.MK. Ultra Product, a project, where in his special time, where in his time as Special Forces Commander in South America, he saw troops deployed to the airstrip to act, act as exterminators who were there to destroy the evidence. He became more Christian, especially leaning towards the conspiratorial side, like his belief about barcodes. Quote, oh my God, Dave, can I have a minute.

I think we're going to see a literal mark of the beast. I think it'll be part of the globalist cashless system. I was on a radio program the other day, and a lady came on and says, you know, it sounds so easy. I'll have this mark. go down to the grocery store. I don't have to carry money. This sounds wonderful. I said, yes, ma'am, but if you accept this system, the smoke of your torment rises forever.

Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me right now? Yeah. I just, what do you mean? Because I'm just going to go pay. You want to pay with your mark? No, I just want to pay with a cut. There will be a mark on whatever I'm buying. Yeah, well, that's the smoke of torment that's going to eat you alive in your soul. From the Cheerios?

Well, you're inviting the darkness of the Satan to come and take everything. Should I just pay with a cash? I'd use cash. Oh, yeah, well, that's what it is. I'm glad we met. That first part of that is so Alex Jonesed. Yeah, this is very Alex Jonesy. Man, a lot of people go down this.

It's crazy that we've survived this long with so many people. It's pretty much over. But, no, it is because it, you know, the truth is, it's like, there's like early Alex Jones, like early where you're like, oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like where you're like, yeah, it's exactly right. It's so fucked up.

And then now he's like, we are, the frogs are alien. And this is the global agenda. Well, because once you, once you accept that the U.S. government is, there's a lot of fucking heinous. Yeah. It's not what you're taught in school. Yeah. other entity, then there's nothing to hold on to anymore.

And I think that's where we're peaking right now. It's like everybody from pretty much this political spectrum, there's still like some hangers on, obviously. But so many, even though Trump's approval ratings up with Republicans, but so many people now are like, this is bullshit. And then they start finding out what's bullshit. And they're like, exactly. It's king tight.

So he and his wife, who She's now old enough to rent a car She, they leaned into the religious thing Wait, who, Bo's wife? Yeah, remember she was 16 and they got married Well, she can, she's on a long ago was that That was a while ago. She's probably in late 20s now.

Oh, my God. I feel like, I feel like right now, honestly, in my math, Bo's 88. He's not. So they're leaning into the religious thing more, and they can, convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So they become Mormons.

Good. So Bo is keeping his name alive by giving talks and survivalist trainings around the country. And he has a pretty big popularity among increasingly more fringe elements of the right wing. So when someone asked him to run for vice president on the populist party ticket, he jumped at it without asking questions. He was just like, fuck yeah, I'll be VP. He probably should ask who was on the president part of the ticket. David Duke.

Its grandkKK Grand Wizard David Duke. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, fuck. So it took him a little bit to come around and realize it's probably a bad thing. But he eventually decides to drop off the ticket. Man, when you

when when you when you close, bro, he called after he dropped out, he called Duke quote, bigoted garbage dumped into a perfectly good container. I mean, all right, we could compliment him on something again. When asked why he joined

in the first place, Beau said, quote, I didn't know anything about the Ku Klux Klan. That's impossible. Come on. That's impossible. Impossible. Even without Google. I thought they were a club of guys who wore costume.

Hello, David. I'm excited to work with you. Oh, cool. Cool outfit. What is this for? Are we going to trick-or-treating? I'm a lot of lost. Okay.

I'm sorry, you're a cyclop. You're a what are we doing? All right. Well, let's go get this candy. Are you a real wizard? Is this a photo op? What are we doing? Why are we dressed like this?

Let me see my bag of pig bog. We look like ear candles. From a friend of Bose regarding him joining the presidential ticket with the KKK chief, quote, this guy who has so much strength and decency and courage and conviction, tripping on his dick almost every turn he makes. So many people who have so much reverence for the guy agonizing over watching him do these things that are, and there's no other word for it, stupid. I mean, he is tripping over his dick.

He is tribut. I guess that is the thing is like, but he's saying he has this great conviction, but I also feel like in the first part, it was so much grifting. But is it? This seems to me like it's just a quest for fame. Right.

So when he gets asked to me on the presidential ticket, he's like, yes, yes, not really like being like, oh, this could actually be worse for me. he just hears presidential ticket. It just seems like everything he does, he just wants to be. Just a fame climber. Yeah. After bailing on the populist party, Bo jumped into the two-party system

and ran as a Republican for the congressional representative of Las Vegas. Wow. Unfortunately, he tripped on his dick again. Oh, gosh. When he chose his campaign manager. David Duke. David, I've never heard of you, but I'm excited to see what you can do, you know. quote his campaign manager is a real screwball he's bragging of having once been a drug dealer

and i'm standing there in bow's kitchen thinking what then in the middle of the campaign he goes to jail for 30 days for his misuse of a rental car and writing bad checks i love that you he didn't make a swap after the 30 he was like a man you in there with his 30-day rental car. When you get into these right-wing circles, it's so full of these crazy, just lawless, scumbag. That's why a lot of them end up there

because, I mean, at least it used to be that, like, you know, the Democratic Party had some sort of standard. So it was like, it was where you would go to reinvent, reinvent yourself. I'm like, it is like the church in that way, like, where it's just like, you know, people go there when they're,

They're Stephen Baldwin because they're like, all right, everything's shitty. Yeah. I love God. Yeah. In 1992, Bo aims higher. And he wins the presidential. He wins the presidential spot on the populist party ticket. That's the one that had David Duke earlier.

Yeah, but now he's the presidential candidate. Oh, okay. Sure. It's not tainted at all. That tarnished it anywhere. Yeah, it's fine. Okay. He uses the slogan, Guns, God, and Grites.

I mean, you could see that on a truck today. Yeah. Yeah. Unlike his predecessor, Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke, Bo's platform attempted to actually be a little populist. He called it the Bill of Grites. I don't hate it. I'm sure I hate what's in it.

but I don't have. Bonn, what he believed, in quote. If we would have stayed out of Guatemala, for example, the United Fruit Company would have suffered a little bit. But Guatemala would not have lost tens of thousands of people killed by CIA supported and inspired police action. Certainly, we would never have gone along with NAFTA, those kinds of things.

So this is where they get me. I know. Because you're like, yeah. It's like Marjorie Taylor Green right now. Right. They say things and you're like, I agree with that. Yeah. But all of their solutions, all of their other stuff is fucking heinous.

No, and they get to the justice. Like, yeah, exactly. She'll say something. You're like, exactly. She's like, Jews have laser. No. No. Fuck.

No. His VP choice was a man named Cy Minut. Sinette. Minut. M-I-N-E-T-T? M-I-N-E-T? I think it's a bet. Minut.

Minut. Let's do minute. I agree. Minute. Where is he? He'll be right back. A 60-year-old fighter pilot, who Bo described as, quote, a lot better looking than me and harder than woodpecker lips.

Because of the pecking. Si was also a speaker. Please tell me this guy goes to jail. Sye was also a speaker on the Christian conspiracy circuit selling cassette tapes with speeches like The Fearful Fed, an expose on blood-ledding money changers. That seems very anti-Semitic. I was just about to say, it feels very smell of anti-Semitism. Barely veiled. Yeah, barely veiled.

In the middle of the campaign, Cy convinced Bo to fly to the hatchet to the beach. mountains north of Los Angeles to meet with Hatton the eight and a half foot reptile-like commander of the play yachts. I mean, go back to David Duke.

Dave. I just... Dave, David. But you read this stuff and you go, yeah, of course they think that there's Jew lasers setting the mountains on fire. Like, they're fucking lunatics. I mean, look, if your

vice president asks you to go to a mountain to meet an eight and a half tall lizard king... Commander. Commander. You've got to be like, look, I don't know if this is right. Quote.

Oh, no. We got into this little storefront and Sai says, now I just want to verify this. Hatton himself is going to walk in and meet us, and a person said, yes, He'll be here. He's running a little late. He's just finishing up growing pains.

A woman who calls herself Dharma sat down at the table and said very quickly without any fanfare, I am present. And I thought, shoot, we got a changeling thing going on here. And Cy said, are you eight and a half feet? And she said, no, no, I'm actually nine and a half feet. So obviously It's not a great campaign I mean

I mean I mean What the fuck is happening If you're going to have If you're going to go with the lizard people Which I believe the lizard people Is just pure anti-Semitism But if you're going to go with the lizard people thing

Why do they appear as humans? I don't. Yeah. Like, why are you making them lizard people if they're, because it's, I don't know. I've never wanted to get, never wanted to read about or get into the lizard people conspiracy because I just, it's like so funk on. I'm like, I'm not going to waste my time reading one article about what the fuck those people think. I've read some and it's insane. Yeah.

You're talking about like the David Ake shit. Who's David Ake? Or maybe not. Well, he's the guy who came up with reptilians. Oh, he is. Yeah. Yeah, then that's what it is. conspiracy ran

Ripet through Beau's presidential campaign journalist Adam Parfay spoke to several campaign workers who said their phones were tapped and someone was opening their mail imagine just a whole presidential campaign of just all conspiracy people

how great oh my God I would love to work there just to fucking conspiracies Bose's Sandio campaign coordinator claimed quote the CIA shot at my house they're trying to get rid

of me. But when Parfay asked the coordinator's wife, she shot back with, quote, that's a lot of bull crap. It was just gang members. No, what's not. It was the CIA. And the lizards. The lizard. Fuck. I can't talk right now. She doesn't know what's going on.

My wife is being so negative. I think my wife's a lizard. I'm pretty sure. They got her. Hey, hon, how tall are you? Five-nine. Oh, shit. During this time, Bo was going to

close with Pastor Pete Peters spending time... Hey, that name's real, right? You promise? Spending time at his Christian compound in the Rockies. Peters was leader of the Christian identity movement, which is based upon the belief that

white European Anglo-Saxons were the true Israelites and Jews are satanic impostors. He and Bo and all their friends were in fact the real chosen people. This is, of course, the same movement of Matt Shea part of episode from episode 3804. Right, okay.

So if you remember the Matt Jay episode, now he's hanging with those bros. I just, in my head, Bo is, he's not on board with all these people. Like, in my head, he's kind of like, wait, what? Yeah. Like, he's like, I'm crazy, but I got like. a very specific crazy. No, but he's now gone down the crazy road. So he's in.

Yeah, he went from being a guy who hung out with his ghost dad. Yeah. To now, like, just being like, but that's, like, what happens. It would be so great to show the grandma where he ended up. See? That's why you don't put a kid in a plane with a ghost dad, you idiot. So Bo and Peters differed on one thing. Peters had a book called Death Penalty for Homosexuals is Peswe.

described in the Bible, which was dedicated to Bo. What? Oh, that's very nice. That's an honor. That's a very nice thing to do. Because Bo told him that he would, quote, fight to the death to anyone their rights, including homosexuals. Unfortunately, Beau slid a little bit to the pastor's side trying to split the difference. Quote, there are first-degree murders that deserve to be electrocuted, and there are third-degree

murderers that ought to be released. there are first-degree homosexuals who probably should be skittled on. I've actually known some first-degree homosexuals. Yeah, they're the best ones. Yeah, they're fun. You know how to party? You have any idea of why I pulled you over?

Shit. Oh, first-degree gay guy. Pop the trunk, sir. Gladly. Are you first-degree or third-degree? I'll suck anything. Oh, that's the first degree. All right, look.

They're going to drop the first-degree homosexual charge, but they're going to give you a man's gay. So there are first degree homosexuals who probably should be skinned alive. You find them in San Francisco making ads that say we're going to pervert your sons and daughters. We're going to commit these atrocities. By the way, those ads were so common.

I don't know if people, like if younger people don't remember how much, like I think gay people, you know, try to make it seem like back then they just wanted. to be left alone and do their own thing and have a culture that they enjoyed. You know what they wanted. They were trying to... They wanted to be accepted and not be fucking bothered. That's it. They had posters everywhere talking about how

they wanted to wait until night and then they wanted to take your son's daughters and gay them up. I lived in San Francisco and there were posters everywhere that were like, when you sleep we're coming for your boys. We will take your children and we will give them the gay potion. Much

like the American government would take Native American kids and give them to white parents to raise. No, no, different. It's the same thing. No, no. With the gay agenda cult. It's always that shit where it's like, look, as long as I don't try to kiss me.

Yeah. Also, like, this is no different that we do with cities today, right? So he just made up something that is happening in the city and then says, you know, take him out of my own and concern. and it's like, you just made up something to get mad at. Yeah. They're doing the same thing tonight. Oh, yes.

Constant. I mean, that's pretty much all they do. Yeah. By far the most notable moment on Bo's campaign, perhaps the biggest moment of his life was the standoff between federal agents and white separatists in a small home in northern Idaho in the mountains and an area called Ruby Rich.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay, that'll be part three. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I might start smoking. Oh, God. Do you want their sources again or whatever? Oh, yeah.

Sources for this episode. First of all, Josh Andrusky wrote it. A Revolution of Small Guns by Adam Parfay, is Sandy a Reader, Prisoners of Hope by Susan Katz Keating. That's a book. And Ruby Ridge, Part 3, Fear and Faith by Corey Abrasnahan and PBS American Experience. Hey, dollop fans. I know you love the dollop. You love listening to the dollop. Do you want to watch the dollop? You're like, Gareth, what are you talking about? By the way, it's not Gary. It's Gareth. Well, we have partnered with Lakeside Animation, and we are starting to animate some of our episodes. So if you want to go watch a five-partner animation, which is actually like a 22-minute episode or 30-minute episode, I can't remember, of the Rube, you can go to Lakeside Animation on YouTube and watch a really awesome.

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