The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 726 - Gavin Arthur - Live in Denver

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

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Speaking of which, you're listening to the Dahlum. Have you seen that? Yeah. You guys saw it. This is, oh wait, do we do it yet? No. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

This happens. The end of the fucking run. By the way, Dave had a case of the Bidens. Finish. I mean, forgive him. This is an American history podcast. He messed up. Where each week.

He allowed one. I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history. Funded it. to a guy who never shuts the fuck up while I'm talking. Gareth Reynolds, who didn't hear Dave's introduction. I had to walk over to Safeway because I had to get some wipes from my glasses. And you know, they have the little area now where they make you check out in the middle of the store. Wait, what do you mean?

They have a little, they've, like, walled off aisles, and then they have a checkout stand there, so they have stuff that they think people are stealing. And it's, like, walled off. Okay. Oh. So you have to check out right there at the end of the aisle. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, right. So I'm there, and there is a dude who is security,

but he's just in, like, a T-shirt and a hat and, like, jeans. And I walk in, I'm just like, I looked at him. I'm like, you're clearly fucking security. Like, you just, and he's like, he's literally 6-5-260. He's just, like, he's just all-roided, muscled-out guy. And so I'm sitting there a line, and the line's literally taking 10 minutes, and he starts bird-dog in this woman.

And she's having a hard time. She's down her luck a little bit. And he's just totally staring at her. And he's talking to his little, his fucking AirPods. And he's watching. He's like looking around the corner. He takes off his hat at one point to look like he's someone else. That's hilarious when you're that tall and big and you're like, disguise time.

And then I check out and I look over and he's still staring. And I just walk over and I go, hey, man, the security guy, he's just full on bird dogging. He's just all up in your fucking business. And she goes, oh my God, thank you. And then I turn around, I started walking, and he is just, he looks like he's going to kill me. He is so fucking mad. And I'm just like, oh, my God, I might get, this guy might actually fucking pop me.

And I walk over to him. And he just goes, really? And I go, fuck yeah, dude. And he was in this. Dave was in this the whole time. Don't forget that part of this. And then I said, look at you. It's ridiculous.

Because it's so obvious the security guard. But he was really, I guess he didn't probably going to make his quota or whatever. And then I saw her, I walked outside and she was like, thank you. You're welcome. I'm sorry you didn't get caught stealing. You stole though, right? Oh yeah, I got a bunch of shit.

Yeah, good for you. Razors. Yeah. Oh, by the way, after October 31st, if you can help people steal, help them steal, if you can make a distraction at his store, start a fight in the corner with your friend as if you're getting in a fight so other people can steal shit.

Just do whatever you can, help people steal, because people need food to fucking eat. Here's what I recommend. Just every one of those stupid help buttons for everything they put behind plastic now, just keep hitting those. Just walk down the aisle and be like, do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-t.

They'll be like, fuck, where are they? That's the beauty of the self-checkout. They're like, this will save us money, and it's like, no one fucking won't, assholes. We are going to show you. We want it all. I have planters peanuts in between my butt cheeks. The fuck?

Huh. What? No, with the packaging. Not loose. With the packaging, Dave. Well, then why do it? They're in the packaging. What's the point on having those things just fucking rolling around in there? It's a little sandy to me. It's not. It feels like you were at a bit giant's beach.

Get cashews. First night. Chester, Arthur, the 3rd was born in Colorado Springs. Your greatest city. Your greatest... Your greatest... Colorado's best city. Your greatest part of your...

Absolutely. It's where everyone is treated fairly. Yes! It's where freedom happens! My favorite part about that city is that when they voted to get rid of taxes and then everything stopped working and they were like, Oh, Chester was the grandson

of President Chester Arthur, who was in office from 1881 to 1885 and the son of an Irish immigrant. Great. Chester's son, Chester Arthur II. Was there like a contract where everyone had to be Chester?

Yeah. Okay? He was a dandy and a spoiled party boy who spent his life chasing skirts. A Dave Anthony type. I am a skirt. You finally caught one, kiddo. Will you do the basic instinct leg cross at some point during the show?

Oh, I'll show you the Franken Beans. Yeah. Well, everyone's sick, so that's good. Peanuts just drop out. Jesus, David. I can crack a shell. I love how you, since you have this on, your legs have to be cutie pies. You're like,

What am I supposed to do? I'm a widow guy. I was very worried that I would be sitting on a short chair because then you guys just be looking at it the whole time. But thankfully, it's longer. The balls on you. You wouldn't be able to watch the show. You'd be looking at it.

You know. So the president and his wife's first son died. So Chester Arthur II, the alive son, they basically let him do whatever he wanted. Okay. Yeah, they were like, oh, yeah, this one gets to do anything. The rules killed the first one. It was all that silly parenting.

He, quote, led a life that closely resembled that of European royalty. Nice. So he was always dressed in fine clothes. We're talking about the second. And learn to sail and ride horses. and his parents did not pressure him to perform well academically. He was said to be, quote, tall, handsome, and athletic. He thoroughly enjoyed a lifetime romp with wine, women, and song.

And he learned to play the piano and the banjo. He belonged to social cubs in England, France, New York, California, and Colorado. He was involved in social events in all different continents. So he's just literally just traveling and partying. He's a trust fund kid. Now what year is this? This is like the 1880s. So he's going to Europe and hanging out?

Yeah. He's constantly going to whatever big events. He's just boating over there, having a party boat. Yeah. Fucking, that sounds pretty good. How long did it take to get to Europe? 17 years. How much is that in today time?

Four days. History's unbelievable. So he meets Chester the third's mother, Mira. I'm lost in the Chester sauce. I know. Okay. I'll switch the names up soon. Okay.

So Chester III's mother, so his, the party boy's wife. Okay. It's Mira Townsend, Fithian Andrew. Sure, we'll remember that real easy. She was a wealthy California divorcee. Her grandfather, like Chester's, was also an immigrant from Ireland. And though he was a notoriously corrupt politician from County Cork, Chester II had spent 13 years in Europe living off of his inheritance

and, quote, cultivated the company of female admirers. Good cuisine and horses. So he starts going by Alan. Wow. Damn, he's tall. How tall is he? He's tall, yeah. I don't know.

Or is this before they made fences high. Yeah, that fence is actually a foot high. So he starts going to by Alan, and he tried to get the ambassadorship gig in the Netherlands, but they rejected him because he's never done anything. It's weird how they insist on having that experience. Experience and stuff. I know. It's weird.

Although he could get a job with ice. Then he met and married Mira in Switzerland in 1900, and they returned to the United States. Now, Alan's family was hoping his marriage to Mirro would lead to him getting a job or, I don't know, choosing a profession. But he just continued to live off of his investments. He looks so jobbed up, but obviously he's just a rich piece of shit. He's dressed up to get ladies. Right. Idiot.

That doesn't matter. Just tell dick jokes. In front of a crowd. So his job is party boy, right? He's a party boy. That's his job, party boy. They moved to Colorado Springs. The best Colorado city.

I think they don't like it. That's an unchanged until today. I think they're just starting. He became a major stockholder in a company that owned the Chinchera estate, which was a $250. 50,000 acre ranch. It's pretty big. But back then they were like, why so small?

That the ranch, they cut timber and raised cattle in mind, and they were roaming herds of animals on a park reserve. The property was purchased due to Allen having asthma and bronchitis, and so it was for the fresh air to live in Colorado for the fresh air. And he needed thousands of acres. The air of where else was poisoned. Yeah, right, right. Not like Colorado Springs today. That's right.

beautiful. So this is where young Chester was born and raised. Nice. Chester the third. Alan became president of the Cheyenne Mountain Country Club, and then in

1909, Mira learned that Alan was having an affair, but can you believe it? Cheating. Cheating. I really thought he'd settled down. Yeah. I mean, he was the slenderman, so.

It is true. Can't lock them down. Can't even find him, really. Nope. He's real, though. Yeah. Kill look later. He... Huh?

I didn't say anything. Yeah? No, it might have been the Slenderman. I didn't say anything. So, Alan was having an affair, but she decided to stay with him for the sake of Little Arthur. Nice, that's good.

That always works out Will. Well, trust me. That's how you want to do it. But... Little Chester. Chester. But their marriage was rocky after that. Because he was fucking other people.

He was fucking around. Yeah. And then Alan wasn't around as much as a father after that. That's the best way. He's just like, you know what? You've been a real fucking bitch about this whole me fucking other people thing. So good luck. I don't care for your attitude.

Yeah. I'm going to fuck others. I mean, what's going to happen to you? You're going to be a twice-divorce lady in the fucking 1900s? Wait, where is she? She was just in this room. She's gone. Where was she?

So Little Chester and his mother developed a very close relationship, very devoted, without dad being around that much now. Breastfeeding till nine. Now Mira got super into Eastern mysticism. By the way, there we go. Which was starting to make inroads among the American upper class. We've obviously talked about mysticism. On this podcast.

With great joy. Mrs. Some claim to have access to ancient secret wisdom and spiritual knowledge, which appealed to the wealthy, who were looking for a more elite or exclusive spiritual path than the fucking commoner. Now we call it Scientology. Thank you. They loved communicating with the spirits of the dead through mediums during seances.

They were also varied to yoga. Oh, wow. I can also touch my toes. Passing the The love of the esoteric Down to Young Chester Arthur Good And by the early 1920s

Both of them were members Of the Tantric Order of America Uh oh whoa boy Now hold on How about a slow fuck mom Hold on Fuck you like Nope

Stop it right there boy Hey mom want to fuck you like sting No Sorry I apologize The tantric By the way Six hours

stop it that's an afternoon two hours hey that's crazy maybe six stop it it's ludicrous someone can't stay a hard for six hours

who would want to if you take a Viagra and you do two hours shy of that you're supposed to go to the hospital six hour you know what I mean you'd be like hey Jesus Christ oh my God it's called having

a connection. Yeah, I know, that's the whole thing. You're just like sitting there. You're like, don't move. You're scared of intimacy. Yeah. And I like to knot! That's a whole different order that happened, the nutting order. Yeah. And that one really took off. Yeah. I do Man-trick. I know you do. Yeah. That's where I pretend I didn't finish. Man-trick, fucking. The Tantric Order was founded in 1906 in San Francisco by Peter Arnold Bernard, who became known in the press as the omnipotent oom. Oh, yes? Oh, yeah.

Oh, it's so good. Sweet God. So he believed that his body is divine and the practice of Hatha Yoga is central to its sanctification. Sure, I believe that. Along with postures and proper breathing, his teachers included sex rights, magic and the worship of the goddess Schechti. Name a better course.

What was the list of the curriculum one more time? Curriculum? Yeah, what were the teachings? He believed the body is divine, practice of haithi yoga essential to sanctification, along with postures and proper breathing. His teachers included sex rights, magic, and the worship of the goddess Shechti.

It's a great list. Yeah. No, it's a great list. I don't know if you can think other words. Yeah, honestly. Great list. Who needs math. Oh, and also

The omnipidantune, Peter Arnold Bernard, was a barber's son from Iowa named Perry Baker who had trained under a tantric yogi Hammett in Nebraska. Wait, his dad? No. Yeah, so his dad was a barber. This guy. Yeah, and his dad was a barber.

And so he'd just come home and his dad would be like, how's the... How's it been going? You still doing your whole thing? Hey son. Yes, father. Why are there four women out in the front yard holding their feet and heads up? They're opening.

All right. Also, there's a guy named Sting in the bathroom. He's going number eight. Well, how long does that take? You won't be able to go in there. He's going to be in there for a while. everything long? Yeah, I'd say call the police, but it'll just get so confusing. Fuck you.

But that is the best to come home with, like, that, like you're a barber. Cool. Father, oh, blessings and greetings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, what are you doing with your fucking... Is that a ponytail? No, it's a curtain.

Whatever. Imagine when his son got famous and his dad's like, yeah, he's my fucking kid. Ugh. Hey, Peter, are you in? into the, Perry, you into the, all the sex stuff, too? Hmm?

You, like your son, you do you do the, you know, the fucking, for the hours and the yoga and the shakti shit? No. Just, uh... See ya. The omnipotent Un charged a ton, so of course

rich people were into it. Mm-hmm. But the 1906 San Francisco earthquake happens, and he then moves to Seattle and, um, then because of all the sex stuff involved, they chase him out of Seattle. And then he goes to New York, and there they put him on trial. But he's not convicted.

He's a later episode, for sure. He's a later episode. Oh, yeah, he'll be an episode. Great. I didn't know he was going to come up in this when I was like, oh. But because of the Oom and a couple other guys, America turns pretty hard against yoga. America's like fuck yoga. Right.

People are fucking creeds. Also hilarious. Yeah. Hilarious to just be like, we're all fucking and people are, it sounds pretty bad, so no. No way. You're flexible and fucking? I don't think so.

Stay rigid. Bang twice a year. Stop it. The flag's the best. Enough. Intel. Bernard played a critical role in establishing an exaggerated association of tantra and the use of sex.

for mystical purposes in American minds. Even though he was put on trial and with all the scandal and stuff, he still stayed popular with upper class ladies, and of course one of those was Mira. And then she got young Chester Arthur the third into it. So Mira and Chester went to yoga classes together. Oh, God. And then Chester went to Columbia University in New York.

Arthur got super into the works of Edward. Carpenter, who is a serious socialist and poet and philosopher, and he is now called the Walt Whitman of England and also the gay godfather of the British left. That's what I want to be. What?

Got more work to do, I'm just saying. I'm working on it. A lot more worry. I mean, the costumes are coming along. Yeah, see? I'm getting there. You all right. It'll be fine. That's all right. You're back out. Arthur was super-indoo Carpenter,

his enormous massive prose poem titled Towards Democracy, and he thought it told him pretty much everything he needed to know, and since he didn't have to worry about getting a degree or a job, he just dropped that at Columbia. So he read a poem and dropped that at Columbia.

The Columbia Dream. Yeah. So he meets and gets engaged to a woman who was floating around in his New York social circles. She was a writer and a dancer and an anarchist, named Charlotte Wilson.

She is... Intense? Yep. I would think if you hooked up with him, you had to be pretty into sex. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's... He was born into, like... The fuck. Yeah, he was raised by fuck.

Yeah, he's raised by fuck. Just like me. Not so much. They go... So they go to London with the plans of getting married, and he had also been super into

and affected by the Easter uprising in Ireland in 1916 against English rule. So he got to that when he was like 15 and he'd been following the Irish resistance ever since. So he decided to take a ship to Coe in County Cork, Ireland to see a bit of his

ancestral lands. They love that by the way. They love that over there. They do. I'm actually Irish. Oh, fucking fantastic. Yeah, look at you. I love it. I really, I'm connecting. I've had a Guinness.

Like my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great uncle. So I'm really connecting with the earth. Potato. Ah, fucking fantastic that is, yes, lovely. Yeah, you're fucking, that's great. We're basically brothers. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no, you're fucking free of shit.

Yeah, what? Yeah, no, we're very similar. You're fucking... Stupid cockfool- For the Queen! Oh, fucking elder! I've ever heard of Charlie Glosson's story of what he went to Ireland

and found a relative and she's like, oh yeah, come on in! And she opens up a drawer and it's just pictures of all the people who have come from like Ireland and from like from America and Australia's just saying their relatives. It's just a fucking drawer full of fucking...

Fucking idiots. Yes. Hi, I'm your long last relative. A stupid drawer. Put the picture in the fucking drawer. Okay, so this is during a truce period of the Irish Revolution, and the IRA and British are at a standstill. Ireland is debating what the future of Ireland will be before sending a delegation to negotiate with the British. So Arthur decides to stay longer in Ireland.

And it meets a guy named Donald O. Cahill in a pub, in a pub, Kilnery, Killarie. Whoa, we never heard of that place. Killarney, who converts him to the Irish Republican cause, and Arthur decides he's in, he's getting involved. So he writes to his fiance, and she's in England, and he says, I'm going to fight for Irish freedom, not sure where we are with all that stuff. And he writes a lot of letters in his time, and they're all like, I'm going to change the fucking world. And she's like, cool, What's the plan? Are you coming?

Don't worry. Once I'm done with this battle that I just found out I'm a part of. He tells his mom, he's committed to the Irish cause, and he found a group who are devoted to fight the wrongs of the world. Quote, the days when I lounged around in my orange room, reading books on sex, breathing the odor of incense, burned to the heathen gods are the past. Jesus Christ.

An orange room. Damaging. Yeah, that's kind of weird. Yeah. So he goes to Dublin and Charlotte then joins him there. And they get married and they fall into this elite cultural political class. And so the Anglo-Irish treaty is signed and Ireland becomes a free state. But there's Northern Ireland.

There's a civil war and Arthur and Charlotte are on the side of the anti-treaty Republicans. And they're pretty involved. He's raising funds for weapons. He gets arrested once. And then they, so they're in Dublin and they're involved this elite party crowd, which is full of people from both sides. Like they're just rich. They're like, whatever.

Imagine. It's not the way to run anything. Two rich factions pretending to be fighting for something. I don't know, Dave. On paper, I don't love it. This period is really about just finding the best party. That's all they're kind of doing. So they're kind of foe.

rebellious while they're just like having a good time. I mean, they're also part of the rich crowds. Yeah. They're kind of... No, the stakes are dropped. Yeah. Yeah, right. And these are Theosophy people.

Blaviski, remember San Diego? Blavisky, for sure, yeah. Why don't you, for those people... Yeah, of course. Madam Blavski, she moves the Theosophy place to San Diego. Yes. And they build the big, the big fucking... The hard...

What? The hard rock, yeah. They build the hard rock. Cafe. Yeah, I remember. I got the Led Zeppelin's drum kit. Sure. Yeah, yeah. But for people who don't know, do you want to just... I just explained it. Yeah, exactly. So for those of you who don't know, it's how the hard rock started. It was Madam Blavonsky.

She brought it over there. She moved it, exactly, to San Diego. And that was where the, you know, it was the first hard rock. And we did a two-parter on that in 1981. It was like a year. Yeah, it was about a year ago. So we just go back and listen, that's episode 12.

And, uh, so just for context. Uh, he meets a mystic Ella Young. Do you believe in fairies? Holy shit. I mean, with that look, you definitely are like, I think you do. Yeah. I saw a river spratze yesterday. I was doing by the river and I seen something with a bunch of wings.

It's one of the craziest days I've ever had. Hmm. So he and Ella are walking back from a party one night. When they realized they were talking about a meeting that they had had in a past life. Ah, God, we do that often on the trip. Back when she was a druid. Yes. And he was a shipwrecked Roman.

Right. Which totally happened. That timeline matches up for sure. And he had helped save his life. Yes, because he was a ship. Right. He was a shipwrecked Roman. She was a druid.

Yeah. It's so huge coincidence. Part of the Jewish faith. And so now, part of the, yeah, and now they're bonded. Yeah. So that's how that works. That's great.

I love that for them. That's quite on a walk. Yeah. I think I was a druid, and I think you saved me when I was a shipwrecked Roman. That makes sense. Money's crazy.

Money's really bad for us. So around this time, he is having a sexual awakening. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. He develops a crush on Irish poet Lyle Domahey. And they traveled around the country together, and at one point climbed a sacred mountain and spent the night on a bed of pines.

That sounds awful. Yeah, I was going to say, there's way better places to fuck. Like, that sounds like that sounds like, works insane. Oh, let me go down on you. You lay on needles. I'll do nails. There we go.

That's good. Oh, fuck, it's a pine cone. Yeah, there we go. That's nice. No, I don't want it in there. Oh, yeah, let it go. No, God, it's terrible. Yeah, all right.

I love it, too. Oh, I got a bunch of needles in my scrotum. I'm having the best time. I bet you this is how sting lasts for six hours. I am in fucking pain right now. Holy shit. This is like panging ornaments. Oh my God.

Merry Christmas. This pine cone will be an ornament someday. Oh my God. Sweet God. Okay. I'm going to... I feel like I've been blow-darted. I'm going to put four...

I'm going to put four pine cones in your ass now. All right. Sounds good. And then you... The easiest way to get him out will be through the mouth. Yes. It's true, though. You may find it gross, but think of the logic.

He read a letter to his mother and said he was traveling. with a fine, strong lad. I fucked a poet on needles. I'm gay now. Also, did you know I was Roman? I almost drowned. Thank God for Charlotte. Send money now. Adventure is wild. He was soon going to go visit Edward Carpenter for the first time in Sheffield.

And this was also around the time he met sexologist Havlock Ellis in England. A sexologist. What does that even mean? I mean, he, what? He's just, I've studied fucking. I mean, yeah, they're... So he's reading about it? That's very interesting.

They're the intellectual... That's very fascinating. They think a lot about it. They talk a lot about it. Shooting on the tips. Interesting. Variations. Could be fun.

Wheelbarrow. Your arms will get tired. Oh, interesting. Oh, a pillow could work there, man. Oh, my God. That is how the dogs do it. That's very well put. Oh, yeah, beautiful.

We're going to have to ask you to leave the cafe. It's not so much the book, it's the talking out loud. I can be more quiet. I can definitely be more quiet. Well, it's just... I can definitely be more quiet. No problem. Okay, but just try to please keep the talk to a minimum.

The what? The talk about... Well, it's not even talk. I'm a sexologist, so I'm a... actually. I'm sorry? I'm a sexologist. I don't actually think that's a thing. It is a job. Yeah. You know what sex? Yes, it is a job. It is a job. Where you go to work. Don't, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have. I apologize for asking that question. All over. Mouth. No, that's what I was worried about. Titties? No, okay. Tummy. Yeah, well, that's. Bottom. Vigina. I just ate

I don't believe Oh these are stuck together again You dirty dirty boy He by the way Reading about sex back then You probably were like Man I'm gonna pop one off real quick here That's all you have

Yeah Reading about like that was it And people drew pictures That's the best That's the best Drawing a picture for yourself Oh yeah And I think I've done enough here

Holy fuck That's the Nice. That'll do. That's funny why the Karmusuitra book was... Oh, absolutely. And you're like, whoa! Oh, my God. The first Sears catalog.

No, you, I mean, yeah, back in the day, oh, man, we didn't have lighters. We had sticks. But when you got fire, boy, did it feel better. So, according to Arthur, he and Carpenter had sex. And he went to visit him. And he's 60 years older than Chester, and they have sex. Fuck yeah.

What's your problem? He told Arthur that he had had sex with Walt Whitman. So they were fucking Whitman bros. And Walt Whitman is, you know, obviously famous for committing. Creating the Whitman sampler. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. I'd milk that chocolate.

Carpenter even showed Chester Some of Whitman's quote moves Fucking And Gareth's gonna show us I can't believe he's move dropping And then Walt It's such a weird thing to fucking And then Walt's like

Okay now you get on your All fours and all. I was like, that's not Walt. Walt came up with a lot of moves. Have you ever heard about getting your dick sucked? One of Walt's classics.

Boy, he knew so many. Sucking dick. Fucking. Went on. He invented so many. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. He was really talented in a number of ways. I'll show you some of those if you stick around. Oh, you're really old. Very old. Yeah. Is this the only way that...

You know what's weird about getting old? Your body catches up to your scrotum's age. Well, I'm upset. Yeah, I know. Yeah. When you're born as a man, it's your elbows and your scrotum. They're 80 already. And then you spend the rest of your life catching up to it.

Come here, you. I'm going to vomit. Come on. Let's kiss each other. I'm vomiting. Come on. I love you. I love you so much. Walt came up with this one too

It's called the kiss There we go Sorry I've been eating peanuts So Chester tells Carpenter That he wants to be the Walt Whitman of Ireland In what way It wants to be the

Like as good of a writer Who Walt Whitman is of Ireland Right okay Even though he's not Irish Right What about Charlotte now We're okay Just feels like she's probably like

How was work? Really good. I fucked an 80-year-old man. What? Yeah, it's awesome. I mean, the biggest difference between Chester and Whitman is Chester's a huge nepo baby of a nepo baby, and Whitman has, like, talent.

So in 1924, Chester's still in Dublin, and when he arrived, he had $10,000 in his bank account. So that's $189,000 in our money. Good enough. And he decided at this point that he was going to get into importing wine because he needs to make more money. He's spending it all. Rich people jobs.

Rich people like, here's my job. I own a restaurant. Really hard. Daddy left me a restaurant. I'm going to make vagina-scented candles. Huh? Don't like that. I'll put on some butt incense.

This will be great. He asked his dad, Chester Arthur the second for a $1,000 investment, and his dad said it sounded like a really bad investment, and he was passing. Chester, Arthur, does not take this well when his dad passes, and he writes him a letter back. Interesting. Quote, I am going to make a name of my own, and you two, I shall make a mortal. I am a mortal, you idiot. I'm going to make your character live in literature as an example for all men.

to avoid. It will be a byword for a faithless husband and a faithless father. A man granted every blessing at his birth, beauty, charm, money, education and a great name who used these gifts for no one but himself. Who grew old... I'm kidding, this is the letter I wrote to my dad.

This isn't actually... Your dad did not deserve that. Who grew old with neither the glamour of real wickiness about him. the halo for a real good, lonelier and lonelier, deserted by everyone who had ever caused to love him,

using the remnants of his father's fortune to keep about him a few satellites for company who died in agony of body and terror of soul, unmoored, unwept, quickly forgotten, having left no good thing

created in the world, I owe you nothing except an uncoordinated and weakling body. It would be so fucking great for his father to reply with a TLDR. TLDR, but I'm glad you got that off your chest, whatever it was. You, motherfucker! By the way, he's like making fun of his father being like, like of his father being a nepo baby,

what he's, the father is just rejecting him from his nepotism. Yeah. Right. So he's like, you were given everything. And now that you won't give me everything, I'm furious. Yeah, basically, he threw a shit fit. Shit fit, total shit fit. That's it.

I'm going to go bang on nails. Who's my neighbor? What's going on? Rag and bone. So he's done with his dad. That's him riding off his dad forever. Sure, smart. But things are good with mom.

She comes over to join him in Charlotte in Dublin. So Charlotte's still around. They're still married. They're still together. And what is her angle on all this? She's cool with it? I think she's cool with it. She's definitely, you know, she's an anarchist.

An anarchist then a lot of that was about, you know, freedom of sex and stuff. Okay. So the three of them live in a house together. Awesome. The dream. Now, during this time, Chester was also trying to create an all-encompassing grand philosophy. So he wanted to create like the all-time greatest philosophy. Sure.

Unite the world with some sort of. sort of edict. But he's not getting anywhere. I mean, he really wrote a mean letter to his dad. He did. He's really good at that. Irish greats like Eats and George Russell encouraged him. At the same time, Charlotte was getting her poetry published.

Not great. No. His import wine business, not doing that good. You know, it's kind of a beer country. Insider. So he's getting disillusioned. Mostly, he's done, all he's done here is, like, help the Irish Republicans and a lot of sexual exploring. So funny, he's like, I'm going to change the world.

I'm going to start a wine business and bang a bunch of guys. And then this Irish nationalist couple he knows that he and his wife were very close with have this pretty horrific little turn in their life. The wife kills herself in the back of a taxi because the husband was having an affair with a young actress who went to England to get an abortion and died during the procedure and then the husband killed himself in a hotel. So that's...

Wait, wait, but what is the sequence of that? The mistress dies, then the husband kills himself and then she gets into a cabin, does it? No, she... Uh... What, uh... Yes. No, no, she...

Mistress dies from abortion. The wife killed herself because she found her husband as having an affair and got someone pregnant. Right. So then the mistress goes to get an abortion and then she dies and then the husband kills himself. So all three are gone though. They're gone, yeah. Wow. Jesus. The back of the cab feels honestly kind of shitty. Well, it's really fucked up to the cab.

That's what I mean. It's like... Also, how do you... I had to have been with a gun, right? It couldn't have been like poison. Just... Let's just drive around for a while. So where are you from? What brings you to town? I know, you know, a lot of this area has just changed. I'm from here originally, and they've just... I'll tell you what, we got two seasons, winter and construction.

I don't even know. Knucklehead. It's green. Lord. I don't know. Yeah, I would go through a bit of a tough time. I don't do this all the time. I do this in my spare time.

I'm actually a writer. Yeah, I'm trying to write a philosophy for the world right now. Not sure what it'll be about. It's kind of about the interconnectivity between all of us and paying attention to those that are around you. Not getting distracted and never making it all about your journey. Finding those little grooves, those little paths, those things that connect us all.

You know, because the space between us, If you ask me, it's not real. It's invented. You talk? I wasn't going to kill myself, but now I am. What hell is this guy doing up here? This is just ridiculous. I swear to God, they'll give a license to anybody.

So, can't we make suicide fun? I mean... Not suicide. Removing yourself. So, pretty bad time for Arthur. besides the professional stuff going on, it's pretty dark. So at some point, he, of course, turns to acting. The lowest form of human wishing.

Acting. Well, I'll just pretend I'm successful. I'll get head shots and an agent. He ends up co-starring in a British silent avant-garde movie called... Jesus Christ, there is that, that very very... diagram of horrible. Ovengard silent film.

There were some pretty crazy ones back then. Sure there were. This is pre- ratings and stuff. Pre-ratings? Oh, they didn't have the Nielsen boxes back then? Well, a lot of shit went, like, you know, it was... Surreal. On the screen back then. And then they stopped it because

the Christians got all upset, because they ruined everything. So... Excuse me. I'm sorry. Did I say that? Excuse me. Excuse me, what about rock and roll? Sir, what about rock and roll? And before meals. Why don't you watch footloose and get back to me?

And that's a porno? No, the other one. So, it's called Borderline, and the cast is full of counterculture, Titans, and Sexual Adventures. It's a porno. A black American loan. ex-football star and future

commie who was known for adultery a feminist future generations lionized. It was produced by a bisexual man who was in an open relationship with his wife. Critics hated it but years later it would be called technically groundbreaking and thematically ahead of its time. The plot was

an adulterous interracial love triangle and then that was the end of Arthur's acting career. Okay, what's next? Well, I'm a producer. After that happened, one night he was walking through a bog at night.

Yeah, as one does, when they're just having a regular evening. You know how it is. You don't feel like walking around a body of water, so you just sort of swamp walk. We've all been there. Sure, it worries some of your friends when you're just like, I'm going to walk home

underwater. What are you doing? I'm going to swim through this murk. Don't worry. It's nighttime. It's nighttime. I'm just going to go through this fog water. Best time to go bogging.

I'm going to go for a quick bog jog. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, everybody. Don't worry. Everybody knows dead, and I was just going to jet movie. Just takes off all his clothes. All right, there we go.

That's nice. So he's going through the bog at night when he comes across the ghosts of an executed young Republican that he had known who was named, Stephen. Hello. I can see you're having a night swim. Hello there. His name's Stephen? Ghost, what is your name? Steve. Okay. I expected something a little different, I guess. Well, I mean, Stephen. Okay, but I'll call you Steve.

Yeah, people call me Steve. Okay, you see a lot of humans? No, people don't really come through the bug at night. Yeah, I know. I'm so glad I did. to be honest, I'm a little down in the dumps. Oh, no, I'm not here to listen to you. Okay. Kind of negative reaction to be totally honest with you. Yeah, I know.

I felt like there was a big thing coming there. Well, there is if you'd let me... Ooh. No, no, no. Don't need to do that. Stephen, what is your purpose? Please, how can I help you? Yeah, you shut the fuck up, I think...

Are you, you're pretty... You're kind of rude, to be honest with you. Put your face in the... Water. I don't know. It's pretty gross. And then just lay there. Lay there.

Are you really a ghost? I'm Frank. Oh my God. Yeah, you got me. You idiot. Here's what happens. So he has to get past the ghost. Which is quite hard.

As you do, Chester whistled the Irish National Anthem, which allowed him to walk through the ghost. Oh, no. one weakness whistling the Irish National Anthem. I had so many tests for you. But you note which key to turn. You're great. You should write your dad a letter about this.

That'll come off hinged. Really upset. He didn't loan you that money. So he took this as his cue to leave Ireland. Boy, this guy's mess. are real wonky. Charlotte, however, stays behind while he heads to New York. I don't feel great about their relationship.

It's over. That's it. That is it? Yeah. Oh, okay. He probably came home and he was like, well, I whistled through a ghost tonight after swamp swimming.

What did you do? I was writing. Ha, ha. Is that nice? It's pretty good. Yeah. Well, it doesn't matter. I penetrate.

a ghost name Steve. Okay, I'm going to bed. Me too. No. Okay. You're going to bed somewhere else. I'm sure there's a dude who'll take you in. Yeah, yeah.

No, I'm pretty much gay, I think, now. I don't know. Yes. Hmm. So, he goes to New York and he tries to start an electric vacuum cleaning business. All right, I finally found my calling. I'm a vacuum man. What do you do?

when you suck this much, you get into suction. And that failed pretty quick. All right, fuck it. You know what? I'm going to go suck Steve's dick. Fuck it. I don't know what to do. He heads west to California. I'm going to be an actor again. And there he hooks up with Ella Young, the fairy lady, who is out there touring doing lectures about Irish folklore. And they're both theophany followers. So they go, Theosophy, sorry. So they go to Theosophy. Like I'm going to correct you.

Not so fast, my friend. So they go to a Theosophy community, which was set up by some wealthy Irish people called Halcyon in Central California. And just south of there is a place called Pismo Beach. And just south of that are the

Oceano Sand Dunes. Where, if you haven't seen, they're huge fucking sand dunes. Maybe in college, I used to go there and do speed and write ATVs. But This is when it was beautiful. What is it now? It's guys on ATVs like me on speed, riding around.

So you did this. Yeah. You ever see a ghost named Steve? I did. Dude, ride through me. He's on your back. Fuck, yeah. At this time, there are hobos and hermits living in the dunes.

What? Because that's where they could get seclusion from the world. In the dunes? Yeah. So they're living, not inside the dunes, but like in the dune area. In the dune zone. The dune zone. All right.

And they built shacks out of driftwood and boards and really anything they could find. So these guys would all dig for clams to eat and sell. You want to? I got you. What happened there? This is the toilet. It's all the toilet. Want a clam?

No. Come on. They're filthy. Thank you. Here you go. Shuck it with me. Suck it. No.

You eat my best friend. I'm just walking through the dune. No, you're not. You're my best buddy. Are you supposed to be a hermit? I am. Yes. Take your fly down.

No. Come on. What about this? I'll put a clanny. No. I want you to be my best man at my wedding. Who you're going to marry? The broom, dumb ass!

Oh, I thought you were going to say the clam. Okay. You'll be my best man. Singing song about my wedding right now. I'm going to shoot your foot. Three, two, one. I'll take the shot. Fuck, I was kidding.

Today we win. We're a best friend. That's it, eat a clam for... A good song, I'm leaving. You're not going... I'm sorry. Okay. I haven't talked to someone in a while.

I came off needy. Maybe we should just lay down and eat clams out as far. Let's do bobbing for clams. No. What do you mean what? No. How do you want to eat them? I don't.

What are you going to eat? I'm not staying here. I'm just passing it. through. Where are we going? We aren't going anywhere. I'm walking alone. I get it. You want to live here with me. No, what the fuck? What do you mean?

I'm absolutely going to kill you. All right, hold on a minute. Why don't we lay down, have a clam, and chat this out. We've been friends for far too long to let something like a clam come between us. Now, come on.

Okay. Wash your hands in this bucket of my vomit. And then we'll eat clams together. Okay. Do you know how much vitamin C's and a clam? No. None. Look at me.

I am dying from scurvy, you idiot. What should I call you? You just call me clam dad. Clam Dan or clam dad? Ooh, clam Dan's got a good... Hey, because you know what my name is? What? Christopher.

What a small world. What? Jinks, oh me... My God. Ha ha ha. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear clam down. Skip around the room.

Skip around the room. There is no room. Skip around the room that twist the butt. Squipids go. I'm dying. We all are. Like I'm soon gone. Okay.

But I'll hang on for you, friend. No, fuck. When the depression hit... Oh, don't encourage. I'll tell you what. The depression hit a while ago, boy. When the depression hit more people. came to the dunes and they

became they became called due nights. I'll tell you what, this place ain't been the same with all them do knights. You know what I mean? Yes. How bad is it? Bad. All these travelers,

disgusting. The neighborhood used to be better when it was just you, me, and clans. Fuck. I've literally been here for two hours. I know. We got to know each other so good. let's play the newlywed game. Nope. But with clams

and no answers and no questions and we're not wed. Fuck you. So Chester Arthur the third comes to the dunes and he now

changes his name. Gavin. Oh my God, he's going to be the governor. No, he's less creepy. Gavin was enthralled with the idea of living off the land. Inhabitants included Slim Ossey, Hugo the poet, and George

the prophet. George just wore a loincloth. How are you? How are you doing? They all believe the dunes were magical. So Gavin moves there. Ella Young wrote quote, Gavin Arthur and Carl Beckstead are living in the oasis of the dunes. They have not even a tent. They have a well and something to set on fire, something to boil water in or cook a fish if they catch one. What?

It's not great. I don't know how they made a fucking well. That's weird too. Or a fire. Now hold on, there'll be no cooking of nothing. Clams are to be eating raw. The way God intended, shell on. What?

Eat them with the shell on. No. Yes. Not a kiwi. Let's swim in the whale. Gavin was going into his commune leader state. and he built a small cabin there and named it Moy Mel, which is Gaelic for Pastures of Honey.

What the fuck? What a fuck? Is that it? Yeah, so he's, look at the difference between... Poor guy, rich guy, poor guy, rich guy, poor guy, poor guy, rich guy. You want to know the difference between him and me? You're awful. Yep.

You're gone. I can still see y'all. I'm broken. Good. In the back of a cab, you know what I mean? Well, okay, I guess I was pushing too much, but I guess I just needed a friend, was all. You're right, I came off needy. Have a good life, Gavin.

All right, see you later. Wait, wait, go ahead, live your life. Okay, bye. I wish you all nothing but the best. All right, thanks, see you later. Sorry that I push so much. It's just when you said you love clams and your name's Christopher. I never said that.

and it was we had the same birthday and you wanted to get clam. That's true. This is why I want you to get in the back of a cab, what you're doing right now. I'll get sell, uh, I'll see you around, old friend. No, you won't. Hey, if we get out of this thing together alive, what the fuck are you talking about? I'd like to buy you a clam. Okay.

So Gavin invited his Irish friends to come. He wanted to turn it into a place for great minds to gather and debate. It was easier for him because he was super rich. So people did come. That's the best. Ansel Adams, composer George Cage, John Steinbeck, Upton Sinclair, and they would sit around the campfire and discuss ideas. Wow. Gavin came up with the idea of making a West Coast version of New Yorker magazine.

Oh my God. That is the richest guy idea ever. That is so fucking stupid. You know, I was thinking of a really shitty pretentious man. But out here. We'll call it the new Cali. Would fund their community from the proceeds. So they were going to start a magazine like the New Yorker,

and then they would all live off the money they made from the... It's a great fucking idea. Stupid. It's how Mad Magazine started. It was called... Dune Forum. Who y'all putting on the cover? Anchors, Rusty anchors.

What? Yeah. Hell yeah. They had it printed in San Francisco, and the fireside chats they had became articles. Awful. Gavin wrote of the decline of the gold standard and lowering the retirement age to 45. Well, don't hate that one. Paying debt with goods.

Here's a lemon. Is my mortgage gone? They did poetry and drawings, and Ansel Adams had photos in there. The idea was the masses would find. the magazine and then that would transform the United States into a new utopia. You gotta love

like it's great. It's like great in a way right. The philosophy, like the bones of it are like solid but it's rich people versions of it. Right. Why don't we just all like live together in the middle of nowhere? Use our dad's credit card. We'll make a magazine. We'll make a magazine.

And that'll change the world. And then we'll be one. It'll be awesome. We'll all live together. So every time an issue went to print, Amira sent a case of champagne. Oh, God. That's the worst, too. They ate fish and clams and every Saturday night. What?

Gavin, nope. Gavin broke out. You say clams? Every Saturday night. Hey, are you making a magazine? Shut the fuck up. You need a brook. Gavin, every Saturday night, Gavin broke out beer barrels and wine casks made from local grapes

and they'd have a dance. Steinbeck would sometimes read selection. from his in-the-work book, Tortilla Flat. Photographer Edward Weston took nude photos of his girlfriend. Gavin had a ton of ideas. Norm Hammond wrote, quote, he believed that each significant era of mankind was linked to a 10-degree segment of the procession of the equinox,

which took 720 years, and he made charts to illustrate this. For instance, the height of the Babylonian civilization at the time of Hamerabi was 20-20 BC. 720 years later was the height of the Egyptian civilization with Ramsey's the second. Another 720 years brought the year 580 BC and the golden age of the Greeks. So he's just like making... He's just like doing the Joel Schumacher movie 23, but with 720. What's sad about this is he's getting very old. And now he's just an old rich guy just sitting in the sand being like, you know, we got to solve the world.

But he's just a rich asshole. But you can do that if you're rich. Yeah, you can. but like if you're wearing like a weird like Ralph Lauren fleece it's kind of like cool dude way to go like we've got to figure out a hey we've got a new bottle of champagne for our zine

hell yeah gonna change the world wow you're so against thought somehow dunes farm failed after just six months why Gavin had to close up shop he left the dunes oh no two years later he had spent four years living there

He said he was going to find more funding for a zine, but he never returned. Without him, the activity was gone, and his friends slowly moved away. Gavin went to New York to join Mankind Unlimited, another group seeking the utopian dream. He wrote articles for the labor defender. That's getting pretty sad. And in 1939... How long until he's in Blue Man Group? In 1935, he married Esther Murphy.

She was a lesbian. and smoked camel wide lights. So he married a lesbian. I don't know what their marriage was because I was reading about it. Not good. He's gay. She's a lesbian. Well, people were deaf. Everything I read about her, people definitely described her as a lesbian. She's six feet tall. She's very smart. She's very rich.

She traveled in elite artist circles. She was also a huge alcoholic. Nice. So Gavin's dad dies in 1937 and Gavin is mom split the inheritance, and Gavin got the momentos from his grandfather's presidency. Oh, shit. In 1940, Gavin became Secretary of the California Democratic Party. This is so fucking perfect.

Well, I guess I'll just run the Democrats. How hard can that be? But he resigned a year later... Rimerie, why? It'll be fine. He resigned a year later saying the Dems have betrayed their principles, and he joined the merchant navy. Oh, well, that's good.

He was a shipwrecked Roman. Wow, what the fuck? This guy's life is really very strict. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. After the war, he ends up in San Francisco. And in 1952, he finished his bachelor's degree at San Francisco State.

What does he want to do? He's like 50. What can he do? But he's just like, I think I need the degree finally. And then I'll go back to the dunes. He's kind of used to. Listen to like, what are you at this point?

You're just like... Fucking weird old guy in college where everyone's like, cool. He's like, how's it going? Can I see your resume? Yeah. What is Dunes? I spent four years at the Dunes

making a zine. We drank champagne, eight clams, and fake murdered nude women. Okay. So that was a... That was my longest stretch. You have a bogg ghost fight on here?

Yeah, I wish. through Steve. He's a swamp ghost, but I found out as Achilles heel. I just whistled the Irish National Anthem, and I went through him. And then I left Ireland shortly thereafter. Because my wife and I got divorced, because I banged a man on needles on a mountain. Okay. Oh, that explains the banging a man on needles on a mountain from here. Oh, is that on there? I didn't even, yeah, no, that's, yeah, I, uh. It says, uh, it says, Learn some moves from an 80-year-old? Mm-hmm.

You know who Walt Whitman is? Yeah. Do you know he eats ass? No, actually. He did. He did. He ate ass. And then I was hanging out with a

Sigmund Freud impersonator and Hitler, and he taught me how to eat ass. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm ready to field any of the... I don't know if I have. Any other questions?

There's something about clams? I don't really like to talk about the clam phase. Okay. There's a guy who was, yeah. You were an actor? Well, yeah, I was in a porn. And it was, yeah, avant-garde. A porn.

Yeah. Do you see the Roman thing on there? Just so you know I've been around for a while. Yes, I was going to ask you about that, that you were Roman. Shipwrecked. Shipwrecked. Yeah. And then I met.

my wife, who again I'm divorced from, and she... And you... Right. Okay. And then it says, here you know, yoga. And what's this other word? Tantric. Yeah. Yeah.

That's where you put yourself inside someone and don't move for a few hours. It teaches you to play the bass really good. Okay. Well, I guess all I have to say is welcome to Nice. This is exciting. I've failed upwards for my whole life, so this feels like the natural progression. Plus, I'm divorced and I'm pissed.

So Gavin is now a middle-aged dude, and he becomes an astrologer. This is this, this motherfucker. Can't, you know what I mean? Just go be rich. Just go fuck off and be rich. Stop trying to do ever like, and now I know what the stars are. Well, he's kind of spent all his money.

Ooh. So he's hanging out with notable beat poet generation guys of the time. I'm not sure what happened to the money. I assume he just spent it. And his dad probably also spent a foot because his dad didn't do anything either. Yeah, but he got that inheritance

and then he got all the presidential memorabilia. But remember, the Great Depression happened, so I'm sure a lot of the... He's been the Great Depression for quite a lot of... well to be true um so esther divorced him in 1961 which is fine because she's actually into ladies so that makes sense you know it's just that I'm a lesbian and I happen the entire time yeah sucks also I'm pretty much into guys at this point so

okay well if you like clams I actually wow wow what wow it was waiting to happen yeah come on we're a bad boy why we are the bad boys of podcasting So apparently at this point he starts selling newspapers in a stand on Market Street to get by. What the fuck? Yeah. Extra, extra, extra. I'm 81.

And he used that time to write, though. Right? And at some point, he decided to go pan for gold in the mountains. How old is this man? Here we go. That's nice. Well, it's a hundred years after the... The fucking gold rush, so there's no gold up there.

Well, yeah, but I mean, the gold slow was really also a fun phase. The gold pace. So he doesn't make any money doing that. Shit. And it comes back to SF. Hey. He's hanging out with like Alan Ginsberg and Alan Watts and other beats. He's got fucking amazing.

The whole time amazing friends. Yeah, and he had sex with Neil Cassidy, who he was in Jack, Jack Kirk's on the road. He's a sidekick and he's also the driver of Ken Cassie's Magic Bus. Oh my God, which started the electric collate acid.

Yeah, he banged that guy. Jesus, that's a get. Yeah, that is a get. He fucking banged upwards on that one. He did. He did some nice banging. Yeah, he surrounded himself

with good people and had some solid bangs. Yeah. And he gets more into astrology and he was just doing charts for anyone who asked. But then I'll add that I read this thing from beat poet Charles Plimel, who said Gavin was not part of the beat scene, though he was friends with some of them. That feels right. He didn't smoke pot.

Oh. And Plimel said Gavin saw himself as a seer and acted like a businessman. Oh, the worst. Quote. It's like Peter Thiel. Quote, as an example of his ability as a seer, Gavin said his friends were dismayed. that he'd voted for Nixon instead of Kennedy for president. But that he chose Nixon only after charting

that the winner of the election would die in office. He was kind of... I kind of nailed that one. What the fuck? Tell you what, imagine the trajectory of this country if it was Nixon on the Dallas ride. But they would have never killed Nixon because he...

Not that they killed him. Who? Nothing. What? I didn't say the CIA killed him. Now, Gavin, it is... Wait. What?

Huh? No, but JFK was killed by... JFK? J.F. Kill? What? There wasn't a French guy. Who? There wasn't a French assassin there.

I'm the fucking grass. That's right. Uh-huh. I'm going to lay on it with my legs in between my hands completely naked. Now to shoot this guy. You've got a pretty weird idea of the French. In what way? It's a callback you shit it.

I know. Oh, okay. I was making a joke. Gavin. Lift up your skirt a little. No. Come on. Let me see it.

There you are. So Gavin isn't out bisexual. I don't know when he came out or if he was ever in. but he's out. A lot of these guys are out. A lot of these guys are always just like... Right. So he married Ellen Jensen in 1965.

Was his marriage four? Three? He took his charts very seriously. He once did a reading on himself. Hilarious. And it said he was going to be going to prison soon. Oh, shit. So he immediately drove to San Quentin

and got a job as a teacher. Wait, what? That way he was always going to prison. so the chart was right and he didn't go to prison. Honestly, I don't hate it. That's fucking amazing. I'm going to prison soon. I'll tour Alcatraz.

That was close. That's how he met this guy because he was in the prison and they met that way. Wow. That's amazing. In 1966, he published The Circle of Sex

in which he correlated sexual attraction to the planets and the 12 houses of the horoscope. I feel like that would drop out of Luke's backpack. Wow. So the Circular Sex, sort of a zodiac book that put all humanity into a wheel of 12 different sexual archetypes. It disputed the distinctions between the sexes, and he began calling himself a sexologist. So that's... Finally. Write a book.

Yep. In one chapter, he describes spending the night with Edward Carpenter while in England, and now Edward told of having sex with Walt Whitman. So the book puts Gavin back in the public eye, and soon he is giving lectures and readings and appearing in San Francisco newspapers and on TV, and he's called a mystic and a renowned astrologist and grandson of the 21st president. So he's kind of failed into something. Yes, basically.

Although it is a fuck circle It is for the time That's a pretty interesting book to write Sure, yeah But that's what I mean He kept I mean he did everything once Yes So at one point people were like

This is good He was like really You mean it? I don't even know what it means It's just like those little like paper things Kids use when they're like But for fucking But for fucking

And so he was really in a communal households and that influenced the youth culture in the 60s in San Francisco. He was also a regular contributor to the influential underground newspaper The Oracle. And then he became a leader of San Francisco's hate Ashbury area and an early gay rights activist. There we go. This dude, I feel like 18 actors have played him in the stories. Isn't it crazy? His life is insane.

He's like a shapeshifter. The counterculture leaders decide to have a human being. Yep. in San Francisco, and they turned to Gavin to ask what the best date would be to hold it, and he did all his stars aligning stuff and came up with January 14th, 1967. And the human being drew between 20 to 30,000 hippies from across the country, and it just makes the hippie movement fucking take off. So up until now, the hippie movement was super local, and this took it nationwide.

Allen Ginsburg, Dizzy Gillespie, and the Grateful Dead, the Jefferson Airplane, and Hells Angels, and others took part. I'm not clapping the hells angels too much. Yeah, they're great. Timothy Leary famously told the crowd to tune on, tune in, and drop out. That worked out. Sorry, turn on. That worked out real well. The event spawned other similar gatherings and set the stage for the Summer of Love and U.S. rock festivals.

Wow. This would culminate in Woodstock two years later. Author Gavin was now describing himself as a pre-hippie hippie. A prippy. A prippy. But he's an old guy now, and he has diabetes. He starts having heart issues, and he dies on April 28th, in 1972 at a Veterans Hospital in San Francisco.

His obituary in the New York Times said his friends included Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott's Fitzgerald, Winston Churchill, and Eleanor Roosevelt. Is that true? Yeah. I mean, we didn't even hear about this. I know, because he was the social guy and social, he was also like, meeting people. But I mean, that end name drop is, like, he already had like. It's crazy.

Alan Watts. Yeah. And he was like, Winston Churchill also. I think the, I think the astrology stuff was super popular. Yeah. Yeah. So with no kids, that was it. That was the end of President Chester A. author's family line.

Went out on top. Looking back, we shouldn't have said the kid that lived could do whatever he wanted. Yeah. Yeah. There's one message you've forgotten about. No. Yes. No.

Yes. He was my best friend. Sources, the author family papers. Spiritualityhealth.com. Go to dolloppodcast.com for future tour days. Potus. Dotgeeks. Dot livejournal.com, mental floss.

Badgays podcast. Someone had to do it. Giddyup. Vice.com and President's children, Chester, Alan Arthur, the second. Well, there you go. Fuck me. It's weird. He really didn't do anything until the very end,

kind of closed strong because he sort of helped the hippie movement, but at the end of the day, um, nothing. Even that got squandered. I mean, being an out, uh, gay, by dude at that time is doing something, I think.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Sure. But outside of that, I mean, but yeah, right. He fucked a lot and publicly, which is great. For that to be your legacy, to be like, I fuck it all. But, uh, it's really it's he's a nepo baby essentially but he eventually found some way and then uh but i mean even with tim leary it's like the 60 the squandered that movement even got squandered eventually very similarly

where you're just like yeah but you didn't do anything yeah we had fun man did we part scared the shit out of them and then we were like all right fuck off yeah now we're doing coke with disco balls well we just did 10 dates uh uh this is our Halloween show. Thank you for all the dollheads. We love the dollheads. They mean the world to us. Stop it. Stop doing it. Luke, do you want to come out and say anything to close it out in your absolute weird costume? Jesus Christ. What do you got, buddy? David Anthony, can he stand so scantily plaid as he's had?

on the thigh with the crowd's eyes. It's way. I didn't know. Get out of here. All right, good. Stop it. What? Truly appreciate you all coming out.

Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you for wearing your... We love you. David, undo some of the buttons on the back. Let them... What? All right.

Good night. Thank you, everybody.