The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 729 - The Lemongello's

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:02:16 You killed him. They think that I'm shining. I am a pie man. I'm Pete Rose, and I only go to Gold's gym, this one specifically. Rumors that his penis is broke. And show up where the Taco Bar was. His brain just fucking exploded.
Starting point is 00:02:29 of cheese. You've been drinking any gnome juice? No, officer. My dad had a fart chair. Hey, cover me. You're listening to the Dullip on the All Things Comedy Network. This is an American History podcast for each week. I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to a goober. Apologize. No. Apologizer, I'm on strike and I'm not doing the... intro. Okay. Then no one knows who you are, so that's fine.
Starting point is 00:03:12 All right, look, I'm sorry. All right, thank you. Garrett Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Absolutely not how I'm sorry's work. Well, when you said it, I appreciated it, so I moved on. Will the United States apologize to Iran? I don't even want to try to get into what that comparison could possibly look like in any other context. Other than... Well, Israel apologized to Lebanon?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Other than... Can you... Oh, my God, man. Just... We've heard about the chimpanzee civil war in Africa. I'm on the side of the chimpanzees. Well, it's a civil war. Sounds like it's over.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Not the way they're doing it. Sounds like it's over, though. One... One group. One... Now, what would you label that group as, the United States group? or the Iran group?
Starting point is 00:04:08 The bests. The Iran. You're fucking ass kickers. You know weird it is to live in the country where you're like... There's never been a war in this country where so many people are like, God, I hope the other guy wins. Man. It's like, imagine being in the head of like...
Starting point is 00:04:23 I only say Rocky because of the shorts that are Americanly themed, but to be in Rocky's brain and be like, yo, I hope I lose. I mean, the Lego video... Lego videos is the only AI that's working. It's, they are the only AI that I'm okay with. The last one was fucking unreal. They put down one a day. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It takes longer to make actual Legos. February 11th, 1947. Now, this episode, we did live. So we never put it out. Oh, why not? Audio. Yeah, we don't have the audio. Where was it?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Where did we do it? I don't know. We did it. In studio one. Oh, the pen. Oh, okay. I don't know what that was, that thing. What's the funniest way to say it?
Starting point is 00:05:22 During COVID? Hey, you're still during COVID, by the way. It's just that the beginning ended. Yeah. You're in the middle. You know the title of David Cross's new special. Oh, I forgot what it is. It's the, oh my God, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's the beginning of the end. It's the end of the beginning of the end. The end of the beginning of the end. Yeah, right. Peter Lemongelo was born in New Jersey. Peter Lemongelo? Yeah. I'm sure I had fun with that the first time, too.
Starting point is 00:05:56 That's shocked. Lemong J-L-G-E-L-L-L-O. Lemong-L-E-L-L-O. So maybe Lemongello. Not that I've seen the way it's pronounced. I'm very happy that we're talking. Well, we can say Lemon Gello. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:12 We will be saying Lemongelo. From what I... When I looked it up, it was Lemon Gello. We will be saying Lemongelo. Was born in New Jersey City, New Jersey. His parents often played the albums of crooners like Frank Sinatra and Jerry Vail, who you love. Love very, veil. Oh, was this a, like a virtual one we did?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yes. Okay. He was born very good looking and was into music and played drums in a band growing up. Sure. So that's a catch. Yeah. Least ego in the group. He does not like school.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Okay. He believed teachers thought too much of themselves. When I was in school, I had the same POV. Quote, they wore $8 jewelry. I knew there had to be something better than that. Now I don't relate. At no point was I like, she's cheap. Did you not gauge your teachers on the quality of jewelry?
Starting point is 00:07:11 No, it was on the ability, like how they would deal with my problematic behavior is how I judged them. You were a problem. Major. Terrible. He watched his older brother, Mike, bowl at sunset lanes. So a bowl of lemon jello. Now you apologize. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Peter made money betting on him. Okay. Mike became a pro bowler in 1963. Yeah. By the way, that almost means you're an athlete. By 1965, he was making top five finishes. Wow. So he's legit.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Hell yeah. Not fucking around. Right. Peter was on... You know when the Bowler's Union went on strike, it was a very confusing day. It's a fine joke. It's not a killer. It's a little fun.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And I think that's what I like about it. It's a little fun. It's a namuz bush. It's a little snack before the meal. It's like a spoonful of lemon pudding. It's a bumblegum wrapper joke. Yep. You can apologize now?
Starting point is 00:08:24 You'll us two apologies. I don't know. Buddy, you're the way. You called me a goober for no reason. You started this. Goober's not a compliment. Shut up. I don't even need you.
Starting point is 00:08:38 All I need is this is what the show will be. You'll pass away and I'll go through the old iPad and I'll go. They'd say this because he's a real piece of shit. And I tell him that was a good pun. I miss him. The last, so the last 800 episodes will be Gareth Retortz. Yeah. I should have said that.
Starting point is 00:08:58 That's fine. Yeah, somebody likes my British accent and it's me. All right. I'm not British accent. We're sponsored by Future Jeans. Future Jeans is so good. You can't rip them. Okay, so Mike's a pro bowler.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Peter joins the high school bowling team. But as coach said, quote, Petey wasn't as disciplined. He didn't like rules. It sounds like he's very non-discipline. You got to bowl. Yeah, bowling is a very, it's a simple ruled game, but there are rules.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah. he wanted a music career and he was in a band after graduating but he's just not a good drummer so he became a barber and married in 1966 but then he gets drafted and he gets sent to Vietnam for those of you new to the show the draft is what's going to happen this fall well then i mean yeah they're not you don't have to register anymore they're just going to do it automatically which is good which that's better so we've already talked about which country he'll go to he told his officers he was a singer, the best singer. So he gets in the army and he's like...
Starting point is 00:10:09 Unfortunately, I can't serve. I'm an unbelievable singer. I've got a beautiful voice. They call me the porcelain throat. Now here's the problem with that. He had never sung before. Oh, okay, great. Can we hear something?
Starting point is 00:10:22 I've never done a tune before. Wait, what? I've never sang a song. But I have one of the most unbelievable voices you're ever going to hear. So he gets transferred to special services So it worked And pretty soon he's doing USO shows Wow
Starting point is 00:10:37 So he did have a voice Turns out he could sing Wow so he knew He'd sung a little bit He probably was singer on the house Yeah it was yeah right So I don't care for your rules
Starting point is 00:10:47 When we're bowling down the lane That's just the way That authority works in my brain You could take your rules and stick them up your big weird ass That's the kind of guy Who likes to stuff it last Oh, baby, baby, will you be mine?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Oh, oh, baby, baby, will you answer the line? Oh, oh, pick up the phone and say hello It is me, Peter Lemongelo Oh, oh, who. Oh, bumba-d-d-d-dom-d-dom. That's a sign you ran out of gas. What? The bomb-dob-da-bo-do.
Starting point is 00:11:42 No, that's the guy. That's the other guy. The backup guy? Yeah. There's always the other. Well, there'd be the guy who'd come in and go, you like a big ball of the loo. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:11:55 There's that guy. I guess I just didn't expect it to become a love song because it was a... Well, well. Yeah, but it turned into a great song. You get upset, but it turned into a great song. That was like watching Paul McCartney in the Beatles documentary. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Right, get back. You got to see the start. I can't. Come on. Lighten up, kid. Come on. At least we agree that I'm John Lennon. Although I was driving over here and I was like, God, John Lennon was a real piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You want to be George? Yeah. You want to be George. Or Ringo. You want to be George. So says he's the best singer. He gets putting U.S.O. shows, and he can sing. After one show, Martha Ray told Peter she tried to be a singer when the war was over.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Years later, Peter would tell this exact same story, but it was Don Ho who happened to say it in Hawaii. So maybe not true. So maybe not true. No problem. Maybe not true. I don't know enough. about Don Ho. He was a weird
Starting point is 00:13:01 little Hawaiian figury guy? He's not weird. He's just a great Hawaiian singer. Okay. I don't know why I went to Weird. All right. Really? All right. Let's all calm down. Come on now. Tiny Bubbles. What's up? That's his song. Tiny Bubbles. That's his famous. Yeah. What a legend. We're not talking shit about Don Ho on this
Starting point is 00:13:20 podcast. Keep reading. Loseer. Well, Jesus Christ. So the war ends. Peter has a tough time. Peter likes classic singers like Sinatra and Nat King Cole, but, quote, everybody was into noise. I couldn't get arrested that first year.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Okay. He had some gigs. He needed a job, but he has to set his own schedule so he can do entertainment. But when he's doing this, like, what year are we in? Like the 60s? Yeah, it's like late 60s. he's early 70. So Summer of Love Times and he's trying to do like...
Starting point is 00:13:59 A little after that, I think. Maybe 70. He's trying to do Sinatra stuff, right? Yeah, it's not the time. Right. Yeah. Read the room. I mean, rock and roll has just been embedded.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, right. Yeah. He has some gigs. He needs a job, but has a set it on schedule. So he starts selling eggs. What do you mean? What do you mean? He became an egg distributor.
Starting point is 00:14:30 What? How? What? He distributes eggs. That's what hens do. What is he doing? No, hens lay them. He would be the guy who would take the eggs and distribute them to the stores.
Starting point is 00:14:41 So he's... He's an egg seller. That's where I close my eggs. You know, he's not doing eating the fucking profit. I guarantee you, much like a drug dealer, he is not dipping into a supply. He is selling... Why are you even saying that? He's selling the eggs.
Starting point is 00:14:55 They all make it to market, Reynolds. Okay. Good for them. because I'll tell you there's a lot of egg distributors you shave a little off the top. There are not. Yeah, there are. 100%.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah. Take a little peel off the shell. No. Yes, you do. No, sir. Yes, you do. That's not normal behavior. Don't, are you fucking taking out an egg right now?
Starting point is 00:15:22 What are you doing? You can eat a fucking egg? God, you're a creepy weirdo. Like, how do you just have an egg sitting by? You know, fucking Tupperware thing. This is insanity. I'd like to kiss the hen's ass with these. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So he makes some money. As in that, do you want us to wait for you to finish the... You can be waiting a long time. We just lost all our hearing. People have acute hearing. And they're like, babies have acute hearing. So he makes some money from that.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Then he starts buying gas stations. And then he starts buying laundromats. Well, why don't you just say the regular trajectory? And then he gets into construction and building houses. Yeah. So, yeah, for those of you who maybe live in countries that aren't America, this land is great. And it starts with eggs, gas stations, laundromats, complexes. Very common.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah, it's a normal thing. Soon he'll be doing blimps. But during all this, he wants to be a start. Right, right. He goes through different managers. One said he should change his nymphs. name saying you need something that really snaps like Bobby Darren. Yeah, right. Yeah, lemon jello is weird. So for a bit, he became Johnny Barron. Hey. I'm Johnny. My balls don't work.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I'm Johnny Barron. Johnny Barron. That's not a good pick. Johnny Barron. Well, there's the whole thing with, I mean, I just remember this from watching like a behind the music, but when John Mellencamp, that was his name, the guy for the way was like, Johnny Cougar. Oh, yeah. And he was like, Johnny Cougar for a, for a lot of a while. And then he's like, John Cougar Melanchamp. I think it's, I think after his first album, he switched away. Well, and then he, so he went, Johnny Cougar, John Cougar Melanchamp because he was like, it's still me. And then he was like, eventually he's like, John Mellon Camp.
Starting point is 00:17:12 This weird guy made up Cougar. And that guy's like, you regret it. Cougar is a dangerous animal. It's a rock and roll cat, baby. So, makes no difference. Nobody's interested. He goes back to Peter Lemongelo. I can't let this go. Lemong Jell?
Starting point is 00:17:34 By the way, I really am rarely on the side of change the name. But if your last name is Lemon Jello. But it's memorable. Yeah, but it's like something that they serve on a cruise. It's definitely not like the kind of vibe you want. Oh, I would have no problem with Lemon Jello. The food or the singer? The food.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Right. So you're not, see that you've already done the thing. You just did the thing I was talking about. Lemon is a fine flavor of Jello. But I'm talking about a guy's last name. You remember we were talking about a guy's last name. You remember we were talking about a guy before you started thinking about this. I remember him.
Starting point is 00:18:01 You know why? It reminds me that sweet taste of lemon jello that I had on the cruise. Okay. Let's get. Great boat, by the way. The lemon jello? No, the cruise. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:13 We're good. We're ready to go. In 1971, Mike had won the PBA bowling championship. So Mike's no fucking joke. Yeah. Mike's real. And Peter finally gets his break and is on the Tonight Show. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And it goes well. So he, there was some successes, obviously. A little bit. Yeah. I don't know. I really, like. I can't get on the Tonight Show. I mean, it's not easy.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I don't know. Do you want to anymore? I mean, I would love to put on huge boxing gloves and hit the host during trivia. Like Carson used to do. Yeah. No, I, yeah. He called the show's producer three days later and was like, hey, when can I do it again? Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And the producer was like, hey, we got a whole thing, which takes a couple years. Yeah, producer quote, look, kid, a lot of people are good. What do you say? What do we say about you this time? Let's make him feel at home because this is his second time on national TV. Sounds good. Yeah, that's for the time. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Things are going well with he and his wife and they split up. For years, he sent boxes of lemon jello to DJs so they didn't know how to pronounce his name when he got big. So what's up, Reynolds? Yeah. I told you. I just said it works. I'm trying to think if, uh, it's good.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I think it is good. I agree. I think it's good. You know who I saw the other day, I did a, I did a 10 minute spot on Heidi and Frank. And I saw her old friend Heidi. Oh. Yeah. How's Heidi doing?
Starting point is 00:19:53 She's good. She was in Laquinta, which is a town, I guess. I thought it was just a hotel. No, it's a town, yeah. Yeah. There you go. She's got a lot of dogs. A lot of dogs.
Starting point is 00:20:02 She's got a lot of dogs. So Peter wants a big manager, and he targets Don Rickles manager, Joe Scandori. Interesting. And Joe finally gives in after being harassed and signs him. And pretty soon, Peter's opening for Rickles. And he takes off. That's how it works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I've opened for musicians. It's weird. He does three more Tonight shows. He does the Mike Douglas show, the Merv Griffin Show. William Morris signs him. He gets a big contract now to make three singles for Epic Records. This is a strange. It's worked. It's not actually that strange.
Starting point is 00:20:48 This was a time when you would like, hey, I got a new hot kid, let him on. And now it's different. Now you have to have a big hit to get on the Tonight Show. Yeah. Or then they would kind of make you a little bit. Like, if you just had a good single. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yeah. Yeah. They wanted to break talent as well. So he's going to make. Yeah, this next guy, he's so crazy. He's like, his last name is, lemon jello. So we're going to wrestle in lemon jello. I'm going to beat him with boxing gloves.
Starting point is 00:21:15 My God. It's just the, what has happened to that show is like a national disgrace. But it's, it also follows the trajectory of America, so it's fine. Well, you should have a total drunk guy doing the tonight show. The first... I mean, they did earlier, too. They just took a break. So the first single was released in December, 1973, and it bombs.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And then Epic drops it. And then his manager Drobs him. Quote, I knew I'd never be broke because I was good at things. I was good at things like selling eggs. Isn't it strange how so much of joy, economy, perspective, resilience is based around eggs? It just keeps, it always comes back to eggs. It's actually not interesting. It's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But I was frustrated because I wanted to be a star. I struck out doing things everybody else's way, wearing their clothes. singing their songs, this time I was going to be me. That's it. So they created his persona and everything else and he didn't like it. So he's got, if I'm true to myself.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Wait, other people did it. So now he's going to do it. Now he's going to do it. I'm going to wear a box of jello. And my head's going to poke out of the O. One day, he's watching TV and he sees a commercial for Crazy Eddie,
Starting point is 00:22:53 which is an electronics store. Uh-huh. I think in New York. Yeah. He decided. to buy ad time to sell an album. Now, why don't you explain who Crazy Eddie was to people? Well, he did ads.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Are you going to look it up? Yeah. He did ads. I think it's New York, right? And it's just, the ads are just like, boisterous, insane. I'm sure you can find one. Ads that are, they take everyone's attention because no one has ever seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Sony Betamax or a TV video game, get it now because Crazy Eddie can't be beat with prices so low. He's frankly giving it all away. Shop around, get the best prices you can find, then go to Crazy Eddie and Crazy Eddie will beat him. Remember, Crazy Eddie guarantees you the largest selection, professionally staff service centers, and the guaranteed lowest prices. Crazy Eddie, his prices are insane. Kind of was like a, uh, the start of something. It was the start of something.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Like that was kind of like the first guy doing that. Yeah. It was like it was, it was, advertising started to get a little nuts. Yeah. But it was just a small electronics store. Yeah. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:24:12 But, but it made a huge splash. Okay. So his, and were they national? No. So this is, so his idea is just by time on New York commercials. Correct. Okay. Quote, I figured even if the album doesn't sell, everyone will find out who I am and I'll get work.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I mean. Effective. Today, today an effective strategy. Right? It's like modern, how it worked modern day. Like, how you do it. A fan, Bob Peschuzzi. Hello.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Was in banking and couldn't understand how Peter was not a star. As far as, I'm not Pachuzi, but I am Pachuzzi. and when I choose, I like Peter Lemmangelo. I don't get it. You got the name, you got the voice. I'm a little weirdo, and I love you. Peter said he needed a quarter million dollars. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:07 In order to make an album, you need a quarter of a million in 1981. Without question. 73. 73, without question. 50,000 to record the album. Bingo. $200,000 to buy ad airtime on TV. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And enough for a Coke to celebrate. And, of course, no one's ever done that. So it's, you know, thinking outside the box. Pachuzzi, Pachuzzi, Pachuzzi. Who knows? Pachuzzi was in, but he wants to bring in other investors. He doesn't want to do it all himself. So they rent the Westbury Music Fair and had Peter sing for rich investors.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Interesting. So he puts on a live show. I like the idea. That's not. That's how it used to be. Yeah. You'd be like get people to your show. It costs $32,000 to put the show on.
Starting point is 00:26:00 They spent too much. They 100% spent too much money. Way too much. That's crazy. And yet it works. Seven dudes put in $10,000 each, including a Midas Muffler shop owner. I like, I listen. I know good sounds.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And he's got it. Yeah. Levengello. Enterprises, LDD is formed. Okay. Peter owns 65% and the investors 35%. That's crazy. That's like way to get for him.
Starting point is 00:26:35 He hires a songwriter. He hires musicians and he makes an album. It's very funny that with all that, he can't write songs. Yeah. Seems like a big part of this talent. No, but I don't know back then, and it's still today, that like some people don't write any songs. They just sing them. Yeah, but it's like, I guess, yeah, I guess. The album was called Love 76. Because of the year 76. Peter thought everyone wanted love
Starting point is 00:27:06 songs because the pill was now easily available. Sure. And people were delaying having kids. I mean, look, I don't know what it was like when the pill got out, but it was probably a pretty big fucking deal. Yeah, I mean, I remember it. I was a child, but I, I, Must have been great. We've really started going at it. I could even have kids at that point. But, Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:27:31 What? I'm talking to our editor. Cut this. Quote, most people are ducking having babies. They're into themselves, and babies are a hassle. These people want to hear love songs. Sounds like something a weirdo at the end of the bar would say, like kind of to nobody, hoping someone picks up on it.
Starting point is 00:27:54 So he plays the album for a friend, and she calls it mood rock, which he loves and he uses it. He made a TV commercial. He asked the backers for another 10,000 each. For the commercial. Yeah. He bought 140,000 of airtime in New York. Okay. $140,000 back that is a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's crazy. So it's an ad blitz. That's the fucking shit lot. Uh-huh. Six channels starting on. January 1st, 1976, up to 100 times a week until May. Wow. That's a lot of fucking ads.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Well, and I mean, this is, the six channels were all the channels. That's it. Yeah. That's all there was. 100 times a day or a week. I pulled, quote, I pulled an end run. He was basically inventing infomercials. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Essentially, because, I mean, I guess maybe, what's his name? Did it? Well, you kind of remember. The, oh shit, fucking ads. You kind of remember those types of commercials where I was like, everybody's talking about Peter Lemongelo. The crooner with the voice of gold, with songs like,
Starting point is 00:29:09 I need your love all the time. A new dimension. Experience called love. Peter Lemongelo has created a new kind of music that's both romantic and moving. Just listen. It's called Lemongelo. 586-7-700. That's 586-7-700.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Or save COD charges and send 698 for records or 8998 for 8-track tape to Love 76 Box R7 Gracie Station, New York, New York 128. Lemon Jello. If someone handed you a bowl of it,
Starting point is 00:30:06 you'd pass. It's bad. It's bad. It also is, the music is terrible. But his voice is not. Like, there's not, it's the kind of guy you'd hear on like a, like a, like a, Yeah, it's very so-so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It's like you'd walk into a hotel and be like, oh, we should probably get out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It also reminds you how hard it was to get shit. Absolutely. It just used to be. You had to, you had to, you had to, I mean, mailing a check and then waiting. Yeah. For something to come to you.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Or you call the number, but I don't know how it would work with call the number because there weren't really credit cards at this point. So I don't know what you're doing. There's probably just people who were like there to answer questions about it. It's probably just an answering machine and then he calls them back. Hello, Lemon Jello Industries. Uh, yeah. I just saw this Love 76 album.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Okay. I want to get the eight track. Okay, yeah. Well, all you have to do is send a self-address stamped envelope back to the PO box that was on the commercial. And then you put a check in there. And then we'll take that check. We'll cash that check. And once that check clears, we'll get you an A track or an album.
Starting point is 00:31:16 We'll put that in the, with the postage that you send, and then we'll send that your way. And that should take about two to nine weeks. And it'll be worth it. So the album sells. Girls are falling for his good looks. Is he good looking? I mean, I mean, in not an amazing way.
Starting point is 00:31:41 like I mean he looks like the he looks cheesy weirdoish a little bit I don't know for the time I guess he's very mid yeah right I mean as a matter of fact no you're gonna say no I'm gonna say no yeah he looks like like Adam West but like like an ugly or Adam that's right that's right one Brooklyn girl was staying up until 430 a.m. to watch his ad every night one girl kissed the TV screen whenever he came on. The New York Times interviewed Peter in his house and said all the rooms were color coordinated like a furniture
Starting point is 00:32:19 showroom. That's super, man. He really is a weirdo. He looks like a like a Neil Diamond impersonator. Yeah. There were plastic flowers and wood, yeah, and wood-looking plastic panels.
Starting point is 00:32:36 The Times quote, there's little to suggest beyond the cigarette butts in the ashtray that anyone has lived here recently. it is as homie as a holiday in meeting room. Okay. So Peter loved, sorry, Peter believed everyone who would fall in love with his voice if they heard it. That's all he needed to is hear it. And they'd be like, this is the guy.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Quote, look, what this country needs is a white male superstar. They could hang their hats on. Who is saying this? Who is saying this, please? It's Peter. Peter is saying that? Yes. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:09 About himself. the fucking... He knows what America wants. Where... It's time for a white guy to succeed. Where are the 70s? Can you fight a white guy? We need to find whites.
Starting point is 00:33:19 This country's been taken over by Native Americans and black people for long enough. It's time for a white man to get a shot. That's why this new song, give Whitey a hit. They want him clean and they want him now. That's why I'm playing it this way. They want a clean, nice white man. I can be what they want. I can fill that void.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I can be... What void? Listen, listen, listen, listen. If you're a black person and you're watching this television, turn it off right now. I'm talking to my whites. Hwis. I just want to let you know it's time.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I may have lemon jello in the name, but you're not going to find anything that's not pure white over here. Three, two, one. White. Let's be white. His old manager, Joe Skandori, returns because he's making money, right? Rumors were Peter had $500,000 of live gigs lined up and that he was backed by the mob. If I saw that, I'd be like, this guy's totally mob connected.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Okay. He expanded TV ads to Vegas and Los Angeles. Vegas is going to love him. Yeah. He's perfect. He looks like a Vegas casino came to life. He sold 53,000 records and signed a four-year recording deal with private stock records worth 250,000 if options were picked up every year.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And what was the upfront cost he got from the other people? It was like 250 anyway. Yeah, I mean, he asked for 250, but then another 10,000 eight, so like three something. He's close to profit. I mean, it's working. You're saying it's working, basically. Well, yeah, we don't know how much money he made, but he did sell, I mean, 50,000 records.
Starting point is 00:35:03 He probably made a lot of money. Yeah, right. Quote, now the public wants to see what they bought. I have to go to establishment again. And I have to go establishment again. So he's got to go back the traditional way. Yeah, I love the idea that he's like, you've got to go to establishment. Look, I bought 100 commercials a week.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Now I've got to go the traditional route. He was on more tonight shows. He was on the Today Show. So this is all his manager getting, sure. 60 minutes. I don't know why. Chevy Chase mocked him on Saturday Live as Peter Lemon mood ring. Ha ha.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I might. Me? Moodering? I'd be like orange jello or something. Like I'd go that route. Jellow's funnier than like mootering. Some didn't think much of it. A promoter quote,
Starting point is 00:35:52 can he deliver in Cleveland at Chicago where he didn't buy ad time? No. No, I can't. Joe was planning albums and concerts and more TV, but there was no tour because Peter was indeed not a draw. Why would anybody know about him outside of the cities?
Starting point is 00:36:12 He's not running out. He's got two markets. And he's also like a fucking crooner when that's not a thing anymore. Yeah, but it's also, you cannot run local, I mean, this is what politicians do. You cannot run local spots in two markets that you'll succeed in and be like, all right, let's see what my Midwest numbers are like. Yeah, well, they're terrible. I guess he's thinking because he's on the Tonight Show and everything else that it would expand it.
Starting point is 00:36:36 but he's not good. No, he's like a Ponzi scheme. To be, to be, so you're talking about like, we're on the Virgil disco, rock, like, folk. There's all these, like, genres that are taking off. And then to be a crooner at that time period, so to go against the norm, you've got to be really fucking good. Yeah. You can't just be like a shitty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah. Right. Yeah. So. But remember, Dave, there's a lot of people who need a white man. I mean, it's the 70s in the United States. Gareth, the Dalop is brought to you by Hems. Oh, baby.
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Starting point is 00:45:23 He's very competitive. When he was 10, he smashed his baseball cleat through his family rec room ceiling after losing. Yeah. Well, I mean, it is a wreck room. Yeah, it's how you do it. He was a star in his high school baseball and football teams. After one loss, he destroyed his $500 stereo.
Starting point is 00:45:40 So he's a cool guy. Yes. He's like a fine guy. Yes. There's no flags. No flags. Franon baseball player Frank McCormick, quote, you can go up to him on the street and insult his parents and he'll walk away.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But if a little thing happens on the mound, he'll go crazy. It's a weird, like, A side to that. Hey, yo, your mom's weird. You dad's ugly. Doesn't bother me. Mark was quiet and kept to himself. Oh, good, a quiet, angry guy.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, that's the right kind. He was close with his younger brother, Thomas, who was six years younger, and Thomas idolizes Mark. A week before turning 18, Mark, Frank McCormick, and Mark Bird, Fidrich get walk-on tryouts with the Detroit Tigers. And they all get signed. But when he leaves to play in the minors, Thomas gives him a silver dollar. Sorry, I don't know why I said, but. When he leaves to play in the miners, Thomas gives him a silver dollar for good luck. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And Mark keeps the silver dollar in his glove. Okay. Early in 1975, Thomas was diagnosed with bone cancer at 13. Okay. And it hits Mark hard. His parents said he had temper tantal. and became even more intense. He's already having temper tantrums.
Starting point is 00:47:05 His anger is now constantly flaring. He shattered a Coke machine after a game. He destroyed the team clubhouse on one occasion. Mark Bird and Frank were roommates. And Frank, quote, Frank said, quote, I had to hold him down on the bed in the hotel room so he wouldn't tear sinks off the wall, smash TVs and rip lamps apart. Even then, he managed to smash a few.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Why would you? Ripping a sink up. the wall. Why would you want this guy? Is this before security deposits at hotels? Is this why they always charge you an extra 75 when you check in? How do you rip a sink off the wall? I mean, I guess it's like, it's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:41 You could. Why would you? Right. Ripping a sink off the wall. After one loss, Mark punched through his car's windshield. That's like some fucking Terminator shit. I mean, how is this guy's hand not completely broken all the time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:58 But he didn't use his throwing, oh, but he didn't use his throwing at which he said made it okay. It doesn't actually. So using your non-dominant hand to break a windshield is pretty impressive. During a game, he tried to break his spikes on the dugout steps. And Frank yelled at him, quote, don't do that. If you're going to do something, eat your goddamn hat instead. Hey, or a third option. Let's all get our emotions.
Starting point is 00:48:24 What about calm down? Better place. Mark did eat his hat. What do you mean ate his hat? Quote every last fiber. Mark denies it saying he ripped it into tiny pieces with his hands instead. That's still crazy. That's not an okay.
Starting point is 00:48:39 You imagine ripping a baseball into tiny pieces? Look, eating it's nuts, but ripping it up is very, I'd almost rather eat it. We should study this guy's hands in a lab. We should see if Luke can eat a hat. During the very last game of the 1975 season, Mark was up 9 to 0. in the sixth when he got a blister. Okay. And he ended up losing.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And he is furious. Blister's got some problems coming its way. That night, because it's the last game of the season, all the players went to a steakhouse. Okay. Mark was seething. When a waiter put a plate with fries instead of a potato in front of him, he loses it. I mean, that's fair, though. Quote, he picked up the French fries and threw the matter, hitting her on the back
Starting point is 00:49:26 the head. Hey, let me just play the... Go ahead. My guess is she's never going to do that again. Thank you. That is the last time she misses up the side orders of the steak. I wish you're going to learn a lesson. Now you know. Then he picked up the steak and fired it off the wall on the far side of the room. You know, not great, obviously. But everybody gets what's going on. I'm having trouble with this one.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I'll be honest. I'm struggling with this one. Stakes. Not cooked right. She got the order right, so I don't know what the plan is. He's got the order wrong. Well,
Starting point is 00:50:03 the first, because you got the steak right. That's what I mean. Maybe it was undercooked. Overcooked. Just saying the first one I get. Is it wrong to throw a steak that's not cooked properly
Starting point is 00:50:16 that gets the wall in the restaurant? Yes, it is. Yes, it is. You can do that at Morton's steak. No. It's very common. No, it is not. To just fire a steak off the world.
Starting point is 00:50:24 No, it isn't. Okay. Don't make me say it's low stakes. The team then tells the restaurant manager they don't know him. I don't know this guy. He said at your table. I know, right? Who is he?
Starting point is 00:50:37 He's in the same uniform as all of you guys. Frank was his friend, quote, but hey, I love the guy. He's Italian. That's all. Hot-blooded. So it's an Italian thing. This is a classic Italian guy thing. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Just throwing stakes off walls and whatnot. Look, of course we were mad when he did that. But he's Italian guy. Frank started calling Mark Mrs. Lemongelo quote, because he's been because he'd always be washing and polishing the floors and cleaning up after me.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Six in the morning and he'd be scrubbing the floors. Drop something and he'd scream, My floor, my floor! There's a lot going on here. He's got something. There's some compensatory. There's something. There's a neurological something.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It's not a great pair. Yeah, there's a mental health issue. There's some stuff. My floor, my floor. And again, this is when they don't. Like, you're just a weird guy. Yeah, no, they're not like, what's wrong. Hey, man, you should probably get tested.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Get tested. Yeah. He's Italian. He's Italian. He told Frank not to walk on his floors. Well, that's going to be pretty hard. What do you want me to do? Buddy, I live here.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I know, but if it's possible, just don't ever touch the floors. Even with your feet or with your hands. Don't do it. Have you tried floating? What? Try floating. You know, this whole Italian thing with you, it's just fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Shut your fucking mouth. I'll fucking cut your cock off and put it up your own mouth. There he is. Do we a favor, though. Shoes off, no socks, no feet on the floor. Okay, I'll try, I guess, just push against the walls. I got a series of pulleys that can kind of drag you across the ceiling. You're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's a cable system. Weight to measurements. I got to say it's a little weird. You look at my dog, gotta fucking buff, y'all. There it is. It's a spicy meat bog. Ah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:34 So, tired of this, in the off season, Mark is traded to the Houston Astros. And they assign him to AAA Memphis. So during spring training in 1976, word comes that Thomas is now dying. Okay. So Mark goes home. And his mom said he was like a zombie.
Starting point is 00:52:54 an Astros executive called and asked, quote, how long will it take before Tommy dies and we need him because we need him back with the team. That's a good coach. Well, that's, that's good organization. That's a good, Dave, that's a good organization. Trying to say how important he is. Excuse me, ma'am. I know you're going through a tough time.
Starting point is 00:53:15 When your other son dies, how long until he's son adjusts? Well, Thomas died soon after, and Mark returned to the team, but he is a wreck. By the way, he was a wreck before he left. Yeah. They probably put him in the wreck room. His mother implored him to come home, which he did in July and spent three weeks on the Jersey Shore trying to quote, get his head together. That's where you go. Get a T-shirt shirt, spray painted, hang out with Paul E.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Nice. Go to the smush room. Nice dig. He came back a bit. I got it. He came back a bit better, but he's still set. Sure. What do they expect?
Starting point is 00:53:53 I don't know. Their expectation is what? That he's just like, ah. Well, let's play ball. Last by little brother. Let's get out there. He doesn't like Memphis and he told the Astros he deserved to be in the majors and wanted to be traded. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Of AAA, he said, quote, the ball parks are terrible. The international league is supposed to be about 80-year-olds and it looks that age. Sorry, the baseball league is, the international league is supposed to be about 80 years old and it looks its age. the crowds aren't very good in Memphis. The only time they get a good crowd is when they give away free beer, but the only thing to do here is to drive by Elvis's house. Free beer. Free beer, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Great. Yeah. Then one game he was taken out, and he responded to that by cutting his uniform with scissors into strips 12 inches long. Yeah. That's how you do it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:51 No, just turn it into like some Drake. Yeah. Yep. He gets a reputation for throwing hair dryers in the clubhouse. Well, that's a, I mean, there's a lot of hairdriers in the clubhouse of baseball teams. Well, plus he's a baseball player. Yeah. What's he going to do?
Starting point is 00:55:06 Absolutely. Throw it? Absolutely. It's the whole job. Yeah. But still, even with all this behavior shit, he still gets a call up to the major leagues. Wow. And his MLB debut is in front of 970 people in Atlanta on September 14th, 1976.
Starting point is 00:55:23 he did well he finished three and one that year with the 2.79 eri and he looks like he's going to be part of next year's estrus team on october 30th nineteen seventy six mark and his cousin peter make an appearance at bonnie beulik in ocean township new jersey which marks dad owes okay and mark was given a lemon colored 1977 buick you get it Lemon, lemon, beouic. Yeah. Yellow. Beuick.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah. The Daily Register wrote, quote, First cousins who are like brothers. But, 1977 is actually not a good year for Peter. The second album. He's got some of a beautiful voice. The second album's coming out.
Starting point is 00:56:14 He got the porcelain throat. Do I love you? It was sung into a mirror. After it was released, his label, Private Stock, shut down. I was going to say, I'd never heard of them, but that's tough. Do I love, writing these love songs is so annoying.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I mean, I don't, but there was an explosion of love songs. I was going to say, like, I remember in the 80s, like there, that's a lot of that. Late 70s, yes. A lot of that stuff where it was just, you were like, oh my God, enough. Do, do I love you? You're like, okay. So album doesn't sell. Singles don't chart.
Starting point is 00:56:51 that's it for his recording career. Wow. And he hadn't paid off his backers. And he declares bankruptcy. And then he moves to Florida. He's going to start over. Sure. New wife.
Starting point is 00:57:07 It gets into home construction. Great. It's okay. It took a lot of, there was a lot of investment in that music career. But remember, he was doing home construction before. Yeah, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:57:18 So, but he does keep singing, doing live shows. You can't give up the dream. No. Because you don't know when someone's going to see you. Yeah. And then now. Well, he has a bit of a name. I guess so, yeah. Yeah. Mark is the Astros' number three pitcher the next season. His anger, however, is getting worse.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And now he starts slapping himself really hard in the face when he makes a bad pitch. Well, we all know someone like that and they're fine. That's a fine thing to be doing. That makes the whole team feel more confident. Yeah, you like to see a guy who kicks his own ass. Let's hug him. Sometimes he did it so hard he would leave a handprint on his face. That's fine too.
Starting point is 00:58:03 That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He pitched okay, but the Astros never scored. They just weren't a good team. And halfway through the season, he has the worst record in baseball. And so in-
Starting point is 00:58:15 Peter Limoncello had the worst record. I'll give you that one. I'm giving it to you. You are being given. In interviews, Mark starts blaming his teammates for not scoring for his losses. So that's really bad. What does that do to a locker room, Dave? I'm not a sports guy.
Starting point is 00:58:35 They like that? Look at these fucking shit. They like that stuff? They love it. That's cool. During a game in Chicago, Mark loses it over a call and he's kicked out of the game. And he yells all the way to the dugout. and then he turned and flips off the ump with both hands so double fucking bird then he goes into the clubhouse
Starting point is 00:58:57 and he wrecks the clubhouse when his teammates come in after the game their stuff is all over the floor i didn't know you can't take it to the guy's stuff no you can't and mark is asleep this is good on the food table his head guys guys guys I know we're all mad. But he's really... Hey, let Mark sleep at all. He's tuckered himself out. Look at that cute little guy there.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Look at him. He looks like a little baby phone. He slept terribly last night. Oh. He was up all night. He went to Taylor and Danny's. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:35 So... Let's just leave him. The beautiful little boy. Everybody pick up your stuff quietly. Let's get out of his. Sweep up your shattered items. Let's go. His head was in a bowl of mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Hey, should we? get his head out of the bowl of mayo before we go? What do you think? Why do you think his head's in the bowl of mayo? Hey, can I pick it up and lick it and I lick the side of his face? Just get mayo on the outside. Okay. We're trying to let him sleep.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I will say it's a strange pillow. Do you think that's good for his skin? No. No? No. I mean, it's got egg in it, which is amazing, but probably not. No. I don't know why you focus on the egg. I'm not. I'm just saying the whole thing is... No, but you just talk. Well, you wouldn't be able to have mayonnaise without eggs, but that's fine.
Starting point is 01:00:22 So neither here nor there. I'm just saying, let him sleep in it. He's got a pillow made of gold with the egg parts. Yeah, again, the mayo part, the other part is fine, too. What's the other part? It's fucking going to jism. Jesus Christ. What?
Starting point is 01:00:39 It just goes to show that you can mix eggs with anything. It's a beautiful. It's a beautiful choice. So Mark, with his head in the bowl of mayonnaise, refuses to get up. until everyone left. Hey, Mark. Do you want to get out of the mail? Mark, we're going to turn out the lights. Okay. Fine. I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Just blowing bubbles in it. Don't blow mayo bubbles, buddy. There's a good way to drown in there. It's very thick. Imagine walking out of longer being like, so that guy's my teammate. Who is that? He's one of our players. By the end of the year, He did turn a season around and he won a bunch of games, but his behavior was just too much. And they trade him to the Toronto Blue Jays.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Sure. You're like, you know the thing where you put your head in the manate? Yeah. Yeah, so that's not great for me. He already has been really good, though. I know, but it affects the team when you're just laying on the food table and the manis. What do you want me to do mustard? No, we're thinking don't do anything like that. And what?
Starting point is 01:01:39 What do I put my head in those? Well, you just sit there at your locker. I'll do mail. Okay. I'll keep doing mail. Okay. The first thing he did was ask a reporter, and this is asking about Toronto, if they, quote, spoke American in Toronto. They got mail?
Starting point is 01:02:02 So at this point, his reputation is terrible. For what reason? I don't know why. His nickname is Super Flake. Okay. The director of media relations for the Astros said, quote, if he was knocked out of a game, he'd kick over chairs, break hair dryers. If one of his teammates made an error, he'd glare at them or give them hell out on the field. And sometimes he'd give the empires the choke sign if things didn't go his way.
Starting point is 01:02:29 But the kids got talent. If he doesn't grow up, he'll waste it all. Wow. So he was good. He's good. But that doesn't matter. Why? Oh, the Fury and the Mayo sleeping?
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yeah, the Mayo sleeping and the Fury. Yeah. So Mark is mad about the trade, if you can imagine. and he doesn't respond to any calls or letters from the Blue Jays. Wow. Wow. I don't know you could ghost your trade team. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Well, you're quitting, basically. Yeah. His mother said, quote, he never dreamed he'd be traded to a foreign team. What's a Toronto?
Starting point is 01:03:05 What's a Toronto? He asked. This is a failure of the educational system. The fuck's in Toronto. It's a city. What are you fucking talking about his city? Is it in America? Well,
Starting point is 01:03:16 it's a Canada. So it's not a city. Well, Canada. We have cities. America. It's not in America. Toronto's a city. Do they speak American up there? Yeah. What the
Starting point is 01:03:26 fuck's in Toronto? It's a city. What does that, what's that even mean? Well, there's a lot of cities. What does Cleveland mean? It's a fucking city. It's a great American city. You don't know what it means. It means city. So does Toronto. It's not in America.
Starting point is 01:03:43 The fuck are you doing. Toronto is a city. They're all city. Canada has a lot of cities. Do you have mayonnaise? I need to call me. No, don't go laying down. I need to call it down.
Starting point is 01:03:57 No, you're not laying in the mayonnaise. I need it. No, you're not. No, no, no, no. No. Oh, God. It feels so much better. This is where I belong.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Okay. His mom admitted she brainwashed him to think the U.S. was the best country in the world. Imagine a generation of that. The Blue Jays president wrote Mark a letter with clippings about how great Toronto was. It's funny that the president of the Blue Jays isn't a bird. It should be.
Starting point is 01:04:29 What are he right? He wrote a letter with clippings about a great Toronto was. He's like trying to sell them. But why would you want him on your team at this point? The idea that it's pathetic. Yeah. To be sending a guy's newspaper clipping. Look, we're nice.
Starting point is 01:04:41 How good is Toronto? He sent Mark's mom a lovely Blue Jays brooch. There's no such thing. There's no such thing. I could see that being nice. But for a guy, like, I mean, yeah, I could see that. Aw. Soon after, Mark booked a flight to Toronto.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Because of the brooch. They was nice to my mom. Wow. You know, you go up there. You go up there and show them. They're not like us, but it seems like they could be. They give gifts. Lots of gifts.
Starting point is 01:05:14 The Blue Jays gave him a two-year, $160,000 contract. Okay. A month in, the Blue Jays director has nothing but good things to say about Mark. This is all going to be okay. Yes. Quote, if I had to rate them from 1 to 38 in terms of flakiness, I'd put him number 38. No kidding. This doesn't seem like the guy we've been hearing about.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yet. No, it's it. It's the end of the story. I mean, the after game mail things weird. one reporter You guys You guys hit in the mail? Mind if I do?
Starting point is 01:05:53 He's always got mayo with him. One reporter has to be had a nickname Quote, you know like Destroyer or Madman or Superflake? The director, yeah, he has. Lemon. They call him lemon. Yeah, but that's in his last name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Like, do you want to call him zest? No, he's lemon. His name is Lemongelo. Yes. So the idea of a nickname It's a short nickname Yeah but you'd Like you'd maybe call him
Starting point is 01:06:24 Like Mark when life gives you Lemon Jello Yeah he's long lemon A lemon Sure all right good You got any more questions No That's a good point that you've made
Starting point is 01:06:37 When Mark was asked by a reporter About destroying clubhouses He said quote I occasionally went bananas But I was always fined And always paid Banana Jello but in Toronto, he didn't play well.
Starting point is 01:06:50 And he had a 6.19 ERA and he was one win and nine losses. That's bad. On June 3rd, the manager comes to take him out of a game. And Mark throws the baseball at him. Yeah, I don't want it. Literally unheard of. Yeah. Never happened before.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Well, thank God he missed. He was like, yeah, you're way off. He does not start again. In late July, he had a screaming match with the manager, and so the Blue J sent him down to AAA. Okay. And when Mark was told he threw an ashtray at the general manager, general manager, barely missing his head.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Okay. That's how you do it. Sure. Well, you guys take a fucking trade sitting down? Hurt. No, this is not a business. He spent the rest of the season in AAA, and the Blue Jays traded Mark to the Cubs in April 1980.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Okay. And they keep him in AAA. He's just not pitching well. While there, he being close friends with pitcher Mani Sion. But then both of them... That's how I say Mansion. I wish that had not happened. But yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Pretty soon they're both out of baseball, though. They're just not good. They get cut. Not good. We're talking about these two out of baseball. Not good. Mark Lemmagello had left the PBA in Mike LaMangello
Starting point is 01:08:18 left PBA in 1975. So we got Mike and Peter brothers and we got Mark the cousin. Quote, it was just no fun anymore. Now there's a lot of things I think you can do in life that aren't fun.
Starting point is 01:08:36 But making a living bowling that's the easiest fucking thing in the world. I mean, if you're good at it. What are we doing? Yeah, but he is good. Yeah. He's bored. I used to like watch a bowling on TV.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah, I did too. Yeah. It was like the number one sport. Something very compelling about it. I agree. So he lives in Florida in 1978 and with Peter, he creates the Heron Development Corporation. They're going to build condos and houses. Great.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Finally. So Mark worked for Heron for about six months and Cion invested $45,000 in Heron development. In what? In the Heron development, the corporation they've made to build the houses. Right. So now all these guys are together, plus this other guy, Cian. At some point, Mark introduces the brothers to X Astros' teammate Joe Sambito. And Sanbito signs a contract for Heron to build his new home.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Okay. And Mark's like, I should get a finder's fee. Sure. and they offered him $10,000. Pretty good, $10,000. Yeah, great. Yeah. And Mark's like, no, I deserve way more than that.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah, good. And he wanted them to give back the $45,000 he owned and invested because the development that he invested in it was not being built yet. Okay. So there's anger and tension. Money owed, frustration.
Starting point is 01:10:12 The cousins and the brothers. And it's, yeah. So the house that's being built for Sambito, it just keeps getting more and more expensive. Costs going up. And Sambito is like watching and he's seen problems with the construction.
Starting point is 01:10:27 And on December 22nd, a home heater has been building but he's fired from the job. The house suddenly burns down mysteriously. I know that's about it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I don't know. Because he had nothing to do with that. I mean, he was off the job for God's sake. Yeah, it wasn't there anymore. So before noon on January 15th, Mike and Peter were at the construction site discussing it with Sanbito. And Mark and Cian drive up in a green van, jump out. Right. And attack Mike and Peter.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Cion goes after Mike while Mark and Peter are rolling around fighting. And San Bino is... Not the throat. And Tampito's there, and he tries to break it up. But then Mark pulls out a revolver and points it at Sanbito who backs off. Smart. So Mark orders Mike and Peter into the van. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:31 And they resist. So Mark hits Peter with the butt of the gun, overing a gash on the back of his head. Oh, my God. What are you doing? You smacked you. cousin in the head so next step is I could be dead
Starting point is 01:11:53 but I guess we'll get inside of this van oh man oh baby I love you when we're together we're in the bed feels life forever I love you
Starting point is 01:12:14 I love you, my baby boo. I need you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll be in the vent. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I just want to tell you that's where we're going to go. And I don't love what you're doing over here. What do you mean? The violence out here is not right. No, no, we're just doing. No, it's all good. I know, but we're on the same team. Mind your fucking business.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Wow. Sorry. I thought I knew you. Oh. I did. The thing is, is this is going to turn into a love song. When I read myself of Sheila, Sheila, what a summer with you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Sheila, Sheila, what a time you and me too. My name's Debbie. It's not about you. So they get the brothers in the van, then they drive off, and they drive to Southeast Bank, where Ceyonne kept the gun on Peter in the van, while Mark took Mike in and made him take out over $50,000 from a safe deposit box. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:13:38 After they drive Mark and Peter to a forest area and make them get out. A forest area? Forrested area. The forest area. The place with his forests. He has to be like, I was a singer. Hey, this went weird.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I'm Peter Lemongelo. Um, so. I guarantee you, like, he probably on the drive was saying stuff like, you know, this is going to be a huge story. You've kidnapped Peter Lemongelo. Peter, nobody knows who you are. Bullshit, baby. So Ceyot apparently couldn't take the life of crime because four days later, on Tuesday morning, he called a lawyer and officers turned himself in.
Starting point is 01:14:25 And eight hours later, he walked into jail and soon after Mark turned himself in and admitted it all. Now, Mark let the cops know Peter had committed crime. So now he's like, he just kidnapped him and stole money. And now he's like, that guy's the bad guy. So the sheriff's office started an investigation on two arson cases and discovered Peter had offered $100,000 to Carl Buddy Letch a house painter to burn down the house under construction and another house. Why do you pay so much? I'm not even being like a hundred grand for two arsons. There's a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:15:07 A thousand. Did I say a thousand? Oh, I thought you said 100,000. Oh, okay. the second arson was a house Peter once lived in but sold the year before so that was a set of spite just do your own arson fuck my house do your own arson on wednesday the ninth let's came to peter's house acting weird and wanting to talk peter and his wife told him to leave but he wouldn't leave so they called the cops turns out there were two plankos cops nearby and they arrested
Starting point is 01:15:35 peter for arson so he was trying to get him to snitch yeah um he ended up of being convicted of arson, bribery, fraud, vandalism, and criminal mischief. The judge gave him 10 years probation. Wow. What the fuck? Wow. Like, I'm not for people getting huge prison sentences,
Starting point is 01:15:52 but that's hilarious. Mark and Sion each got seven years probation for kidnapping. Wow. This judge was just like, look. Boys will be boys. This is crazy, but yeah, you guys seem pretty upset. Mark went back to Phoenix and then kept out of the limelight. Sambito now sues Peter for not finishing his house.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And when he was visiting Long Island, he saw that Peter was performing at a cafe. At a cafe. So he went in and he was seated in the front row. And as Peter sang to the crowd, his eyes settle on Sambito. She's a beautiful woman. She's the woman. Jose. Well, Vaughan for me, she's the butterfly. So he's jarred for a moment, but then he regroups, and he stared at Sanbito while he's saying,
Starting point is 01:16:47 I did it my way. I did it my. Fuck you way. Fuck you, you, a piece of shit. Fuck you. I'll do it again. I do it again and again. Fuck you. Peter was later ordered to pay Sanbito $439,000 for not finishing his house and bailing on the contract. in 1990 Peter filed for bankruptcy with 1.6 million in debts. Wow. In 1992, just as his probation was about to end, he was arrested for violating it. He had not repaid money he owed an insurance company.
Starting point is 01:17:26 He had been convicted of defrauding during his bankruptcy. So Peter does six months in jail. Hand me the mail. And in 1992, he owned. ODied on Valium, which cops suspected was a suicide attempt. He was still...
Starting point is 01:17:43 Suicide? Yeah, he was still singing in small nightclubs in catering halls. Nothing like you're doing a catering hall gig. All right. Now, before we get into this next hit, if you want the wheat bread, flip your card over, and if you want the white, keep it where it is.
Starting point is 01:17:58 This next song's about a lonely winner and a man who made it work for him. Oops. Sorry, I'm trying to call it this next video. Would you like me to sing a song while you wait? No, all good, thanks. The song's called Bread. Go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 01:18:17 That's the song. Go fuck yourself, you sons of bread. It's the thing you dip your soup in. Bread. It's the stuff for sandwiches. Bread's the thing we like. Bread's important too. But I'll never forget.
Starting point is 01:18:37 The night between me and you. She was the most beautiful woman in the room that night. All right, all right. We're good. What? Thanks. Yeah, no, we got it. What? It's a song about bread.
Starting point is 01:18:51 We got it. We held each other. Yeah, we got it. All right. Thank you. That night. Thanks luck. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 01:18:58 It's about bread. I kissed her neck and nipple. What? Then I went down further to look. the belly button but that was the just start of my whole work then I moved down slowly
Starting point is 01:19:16 to her torso Hey hey hey we're good Thank you The pubis was where I kissed next Oh yeah That word has never been in a love song before I felt her shiver tight She knew my lips were right
Starting point is 01:19:34 And I made my way down further to the spot that's hot then I move my tongue around the golden hole Jesus Christ that's where the lady hides her soul Oh my God, will you please leave?
Starting point is 01:20:00 I took out my tater tot I don't want to nobody wants this Did it near the G spot And I had a good old time But I finished before I got inside Oh boy I'm gonna vomit There was a pile of what I made
Starting point is 01:20:22 It looked like mayonnaise And then I cried about Mark So That song's called bread So at this point he was covering Billy Joel and Michael Bolton songs And he and his wife Karen moved to Branson in 1995 And he went to theater
Starting point is 01:20:47 Wait wait I thought he died No he tried to us Oh oh I thought he'd okay Oh okay wow what a turnaround now he's in Branson After three years they moved back to South Florida with their three-year-old son Might have been better for him to die Peter Jr. Uh-oh
Starting point is 01:21:02 nothing is known about Mark's current life. Mike was inducted into the PBA Hall of Fame in 1994. In 2012, Peter was doing a comedy music show called Meatballs, Mata Balls, and Lemon Jello in South Florida. There is only one state where that could happen. Do you understand me? That's to the people of this country and other countries.
Starting point is 01:21:30 We only have one state where meatball, Mata balls and Lemongelo would be able to work. It's a comedy, singing theater show, because it's none of those things. I gotta try to find this. So, in 2019,
Starting point is 01:21:52 Peter Lemongelo Jr. appeared on American Idol. Oh, no. He was eliminated, though the judge seemed to like him. Now, the video I have of that is no longer up. What? Let me see if he... It's same shit.
Starting point is 01:22:14 It's exactly the same. Isn't that crazy? It has a very distinct sound that's terrible. Who is this for? Well, he does like... Look, he's like an old fucking cronery. Oh. He's like...
Starting point is 01:22:42 How many followers? He's probably doing... That's the question. Is it working? 25,000. It's not not working. But it's like, I mean, if you can go look it up, it's Peter Lemmagello Jr.
Starting point is 01:22:56 on Instagram. And it's just, it's just weird. Like, he's like, it's like a guy for another time. Like, he's trying to live through his dad's. Like, look at him. Look, he looks like a fucking late 6th. the early 60s, late 50s, like, yeah, it's just weird.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Peter Jr. is doing gigs. His last scheduled gig was at the Villarum Roma Resort and the Catsgills, Peter still tours and lives in Bougaritan, Florida. Peter's still tours. Yeah, he's still doing this, whatever this is. But this is like for old people, right? Like I think he's just doing shows for old, old people. Wow.
Starting point is 01:23:38 And here, and here, so here's, this was from January, 26, 2004. The ad is the most explosive singer-dancer performer to emerge in 40 years. Peter Lemongelo Jr. In concert with his 16-piece orchestra featuring Bobby Nathan, old-time rock and roll, special guest star Mike Marino, New Jersey's Bad Boy of Comedy, extra added attraction to legendary Peter Lemongelo, Do I Love You? and that was at the Carl Springs Center and Arts. So he must just be like, for the villages. Paying out 16 people in the band.
Starting point is 01:24:21 It's crazy. It's a lot. It's a lot of money. But if he's in an art center, I would imagine... I hope all of you find this song as inspirational as I do during these very difficult times. This was for COVID. I think I riffed better songs on this episode. there's something so
Starting point is 01:25:05 there's something so tragic about a kid I just was experiencing this and I don't like listen good luck to him all that stuff but yes what you're about to say is okay I love baseball but I never thought I could be a professional but my kid plays baseball and he loves it but he loves it because I just love baseball
Starting point is 01:25:27 and he just picked it up he's not trying to be a stand-up comedian or whatever I did profession. The other thing, the other level to that is, is those things still exist in the world and people like them and they're a legitimate thing to do. This guy is doing something. Well, it's not like his dad was Neil Diamond, but his, and he's Percy Diamond. What his dad was doing was already out of time. His dad, it didn't work. It was out of time then. This is a copy of a copy. And now you're talking about 2000 in the 2020s and he's doing something that was out of time. I am his father.
Starting point is 01:26:03 It is fucking bizarre. If history has taught us anything, it's that this kid will burn down two houses. That's what you're saying. And I agree. It makes me, watching that made, I was just like,
Starting point is 01:26:17 I agree. And that's why I don't even want to be too rude. Yeah, I don't be too rude to him because whatever. He's probably, he's doing what he loves, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:25 But it's just, there's something so fucking tragic about his dad. There's something about pigeonholing a child. Yeah, yeah. He, it's clearly that kid did not become that on his own. That was a construct. Well, we wish him the best. Oh, I do sources.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Do you want to sing the sources? No. Here's all the places. Asbury Park Press. The Pittsburgh Press, the Calgary Herald, Tampa Bay Times, New York Times, Toronto Sun, Palm Beach Post, Time Magazine, and then the Tonight Show. We're out of time.
Starting point is 01:27:08 We're out of touch. There's something we got to mind. Just insane. The world is. That's crazy. That was a terrible prototype, too. You like, oh, here he is on a crooner. Here he is on.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Infomercial. Yes, he does. What year car do you drive? Oh, and then they show him driving. Oh, he turned it into an ad. An old 50s car. Yeah. Yeah, because they were like, the American Idol.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Look, Harry Connick Jr. is the as good as it gets, yeah. But like, you know, they're like, they thought he had an oddball and they did. Because he's really, I mean, he dresses and looks like he's straight. Yes, he does. We'd love to have him on a pastimes. Oh, man. I'm upset. Let him go.
Starting point is 01:28:10 That's the end of the episode. Thanks, everybody. But we wish you their best, Little Leveragello.

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