The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 745 - The Zoot Suit Riots

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the Zoot Suit Riots.SOURCESTOUR DATESOFFICIAL MERCHNutrafol - Use code: DollopRocketmoney SQUARESPACE - Use OFFER CODE: DOLLOP to save ...10%See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:17 And when you're ready to launch, use overgo, dollop to save 10% of your first purchase of a website or domain. My father's dead. You killed you. They think that I'm shiny. I am a pie man. I'm Pete Rose. and I only go to Gold's gym, this one specifically. Rumor is that his penis is broke.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And show up where the Taco Bar was. His brain just fucking exploded. River of cheese. You've been drinking any gnome juice? No, officer. My dad had a fart chair. Hey, cover me. You're listening to the dial-up on the All Things Comedy Network.
Starting point is 00:01:51 This is an American History podcast, or each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to a guy. to a great guy, to a hell of a guy, Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Yeah, you do. No, I don't. Yeah, you do. Come on.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We're hanging in there, everybody. You don't know. Dave doesn't give you the scripts ahead of time. No. Because that would ruin it. Yeah. That's why I would ruin it. Yeah, it would ruin it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 It'd be so much, I'm hacky as is. Can you imagine me with, like, being able to go through notes and be like, I'll probably do a British. guy there. Perfect for I'll actually, you know what I'll do? I'll do that old bit.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Oh yeah, the old guy? That's what I'll do. No, not the old guy. Not the old man. Well, yeah, there he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Maybe I'll do, you know what I'm going to do the old guy this one. There's going to be no time for it. There's no old guy. There's no old guy in. There's no old guy in this. Doesn't have to be in there.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'll figure it out. There's literally no place for an old person in this. I'm excited for those to go full-been. This whole thing. This is the stand-by-me story. I just watched the end of that the other day Did just the end? Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:03 Interesting take Yeah I only watch the end And I stand by it Are you on Kiefer Sutherland side or The body You're on the body side I'm on the body side at the end I'm on the train side
Starting point is 00:03:16 Interesting I'm on Corey Feldman's dad's side Yeah that's fair It's nice Deep cuts Deep and dirty cuts September 1919 Year of our low
Starting point is 00:03:30 J-Town You know No You know what Jay Town's human father's name was, right? J-Town's human's father's name? Yeah Brosef
Starting point is 00:03:45 Did you know that? No His name was Brosef. He's a big frisbee guy. Here's what we're not going to do. We're not going to start talking about about that. He taught J-Town how to jump on a dirt bike.
Starting point is 00:04:00 like do the dirt bike tricks and stuff and all the dirt bike stuff that he does now anyway, RIP, good fellow, the dad, brosso, good guy. December 19th, 1919, sorry. Durango Mexico. You think you said September.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Whatever, December. It's all the same. What the fuck is going? You got so caught up in your brosive stuff. Now we're in a couple months in the future. I don't think I ever said that. And there's no tape proof that I did. Durango Mexico. Jose Diaz was born to a butcher, turned farmer,
Starting point is 00:04:32 and he was raised in poverty. Okay. So it sounds like that wasn't the right move. It should have stayed a butcher. Yep. Killing animals never goes out of business. Well, you know, his grandpa was like, well, oh no, now you're not going to have any money.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Now did you say you would shoehorn it in or actually organically put it? I didn't say either way. I told you it was coming. Yeah. Maybe you should go back to being a home. a butcher. Like a lot of Garis' comedy, inappropriate stuff crammed in. Also his lovemaking.
Starting point is 00:05:07 May I cram you? No, sir. Let me go cramming. They call me crampa. In nice, Jesus Christ, that's actually a good video. In 1923, we should, there it is. There's our porn page, crampaw. Cranpa.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. Oh. May I push it? That's got to be a lot of people's thing, right? What? A old guy cramming it? No. I think we will find that it's going to be, that would be a niche and people will be like.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I love crampo. How about a crampi? You ever heard of crampaw issues? Crampa. Oh. In 1923, Jose's family migrated to California, along with millions of refugees fleeing local strongmen and a terrible drought that left up to three. force of all crops withered.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Man, I'll tell you, I just hate it when people's countries' crops collapse and they go looking for a safe place. Remember that. You got to put them in jail. Remember that. His father followed the farm labor circuit. Quote, lettuce and salinas, grapes and pylia, oranges in Ontario, cotton and fireball, fireball, and plums in Santa Clara. Beautiful. Beautiful stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Five years later, when Jose was nine, they settled in what was a rural area in L.A. County, and now is the city of Bell. Bong, bong. Bell is like southeast of downtown L.A. Okay, sure. Whatever. Not as far as Downey. Don't even get to be started on Downey. Yeah, I hear you. They lived in a compound for ranch hands on the Williams Ranch.
Starting point is 00:06:56 other migrants pretty much all Mexican except for one Italian family And there was the old guy No It's everyone that is under 30 Everyone's under 30 My bed anymore
Starting point is 00:07:09 Everyone's under 30 May I have a go with your wife What the fuck? Cranpa gonna get inside of it Oh That's the worst thing you've ever said It's the worst thing
Starting point is 00:07:25 Are you inside of it? Grandpa, that's an orange. All done. Okay. I've made creamsicle. The village celebrated weddings, birthdays, and even funerals together, so it's a big community, right? Sure. I love a funeral celebration.
Starting point is 00:07:40 The night of August 1st, 1941, they were having a big birthday party for Victoria del Gadillo's 20th birthday. You okay? Yeah. Something got my throat right there. Live music, beer, and beautiful... I got a solution. What's that? Slick it up.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Get it nice and juicy. Hey, we have officially come up with the worst character on this show ever. Hey, hey. No, look, I'm part of it. Give me the stories early. Now I'm part of it. I threw the idea out there. What is it?
Starting point is 00:08:18 What's in your head? I think I have a snail. A little baby snail. A lot of drips. So, you know, they're having a big party. Live music beer, beautiful women, dancing with guys. Yeah, the whole thing. During the band's intermission, around 11 p.m.,
Starting point is 00:08:32 a group of white boys from Downey showed up uninvited and got rowdy when the beer ran out. Sounds about right. They yelled at the host to get some more goddamn beer and were quickly thrown out. Okay. Around the corner was the sleepy lagoon, which was a popular spot for kids to make out and do heavy petting, do the petting, you know? Hell yeah. The heaviness.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Oh, yeah. A group of youths from what was then 38th Street, so near Dodger Stadium, were there doing the heavy pets. Grinding. Grinding, getting the pets on. You know, hump them with your clothes on. Yeah. Remember that? Finger stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Man, humping with your clothes on? Remember that? Yeah. Oof. Ouch. They parked their cars and were about to get out when three guys in a model. Adelae Ford slowly drove by yelling obscenities in Spanish and English. One of the 38th Street boys, Henry Levas, shouted back.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And then the couple split up and walked around the lagoon to find a quiet place to do some necking and heavy petting. Get the pets on. Very heavy. H.Js. Like you get yourself a little bit like great. You go there, you take a hamster out of your pocket. You just fucking pet that hamster. Oh.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Around 30 minutes later, the romance was shattered by what sounded like a fight happening. Hmm. So they rushed back from their spots that they were at to their cars to find Henry and his girlfriend, Dora, being savagely beaten by about 16 men. And one shouted at Henry, quote, we will take you guys on any time you want to. Okay. Doris screamed for them to stop hitting him as she held him onto Henry and the attack stopped as their friends came running up. But just momentarily, several then knocked Gilbert Mendoza to the ground with clubs
Starting point is 00:10:32 and kicked him several times. Then they threw him in the water. These are white guys? White guys are fighting, yeah. I think it's the white guys. It is. Yeah, it's the guy from down here. Then they knocked Gilbert Mendoza to the ground with clubs and kicked him several times.
Starting point is 00:10:49 they threw him in the water. Bobby Tellis was badly beaten with a beer bottle. Half of the group chased Manny Delgado and Gus Zamora as about five returned to Henry and Dora who had crawled into their car for safety. And then they attacked him in the car, hitting them and kicking them until someone in their group finally pulled them off because it was too much. Jesus Christ. You know it's a bad one. The white guy's like, hey. Yay enough. Come on. Stop it. A man he sprinted off but was caught and knocked into an irrigation ditch and then muddy and wet. He got up and kept running until he got into a cornfield. There he found Gus in the corn and they waited for a while. And then when they came out, the attackers were gone. And Henry told them that these guys were from the Downey Gang.
Starting point is 00:11:39 So the 38th Street kids went home and rallied their boys. That's the Downey Gang. No. No, that's the R. 30th Street is the ones who just got beat up by the Downing game. Right. And then they headed for Victoria Del Cadillo's birthday party to get revenge. Because that's where the Downey Boys are, I guess.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So Henry led the Mexican and Mexican-American kids to the spot. And 22-year-old Jose Diaz was at the party, drunk off his ass. It was his last night before he was going to report to the Recruitment Center to enlist in the war. He didn't have to join up. He was born in Mexico, but he chose to go fight for his adopted country because he felt it was the right thing to do. Fool. Yeah. Long term.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Oopsie. Jose and some other guys wrapped it up and left the party. Not far away. Jose was jumped. Arms, clubs, feet hit him from all sides. He fell onto the road and was stabbed twice in the stomach with an ice pick. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Just trying to get the ice. That's all that's going on there. Like a lot of people would be like self-defense, was it aggressive, but if you're trying to get the ice out of a guy's tummy, use an ice pick. God damn. That's just sick. Ice-picking a stomach.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Not great. No. The next events happen within moments of each other. So Henry and a group of 638 Street boys stormed the gate to the party. two young women from the 38th Street heard screams and ran to see what it was quote they found a bruise and bloody young man groaning slowly and lying face down in the dirt betty fell to her knees and turned him over onto his back cradled his bloody face in her lap and tried to wake him up it was ozadee at the party henry shouted over the fence quote where are the boys that said they were going to beat us up oh you woman yelled back there is nobody here, everybody has gone home.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Something about one of the men looking out at Henry triggered rage, and some historians think he may have looked like one of the men who attacked him earlier when he was in his car with the owner. Some think he grabbed an improvised weapon to defend himself. Either way,
Starting point is 00:14:01 it all went nuts. The boys ran through the gate. One of them accidentally sent the man's wife tumbling to the dirt, knocked her out cold. A woman raised a beer bottle to smash one of the toes. Here's to rush again. Oh, gosh, never mind.
Starting point is 00:14:21 A woman raised a beer bottle to smash one of the 38th Street boys, but his wife shouted quote, you can't hit my old man like that and grappled with her. The boy saw his lady in a fight and hit the woman partygoer in the face. 38th Street girls pounced on the female partygoers slashed in her with a beer bottle and tore out chunks of her hair. So it's kicking off.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah. At the same time, 38 street kids who didn't go inside started vandalizing guest cars outside. That's where I'd be. That's the move. 100%. Don't worry. A key two Chevys. How many did you kill?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Smashing them with rocks and shooting their tires with a 22 rifle. Back in the house, a 38th street boy punched the birthday girl's sister in the face. Holy shit. And her dad came to her defense, screaming, coward. and then he got popped in the chin and flew back through the kitchen door. Holy shit. And then the violence ended as quickly as it began when someone shouted, police, police.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And the 38th Street kids ran to their cars and sped off. The party hosts started looking outside of their property for anyone who was hurt. And there they found Jose Diaz, quote, lying face up in the middle of a rutted dirt road with his pockets turned inside out. It's not good. It's not great. Jose and his brother got to the hospital around 3 a.m., quote, the attending physician diagnosed Jose with this cerebral concussion,
Starting point is 00:15:52 noting that on his face was an abrasion with a large swelling just above his nose, and that he was still bleeding from inside his left ear. On his body were two stab wounds near his diaphragm, and at the bottom of his breastbone, and a finger on his left hand was broken. an hour and a half after he entered the hospital, Jose Diaz quietly died. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Well, Squarespace is just a... Oh, sorry, have we're doing the air? No, it's sad time. Rocket. Fucking, hey. Well, that's... Big start. Yeah, it's a bold open.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Is this a two-parter? No, that's the whole thing. It's really a bummer. This is a three-parter. Oh, shit. So it's just starting. Yeah, right. That's just the beginning.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Okay. So it doesn't get, it doesn't get huge headlines, although it is on the front page of LA Times. Well, it's tough because, like, look, he's from Mexico, but he was American. No, that's exactly right. It's a Mexican thing. Yeah. Yeah. So it's on the front page, but it's folded into an article about street fights in East L.A.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Sure. Quote, the tone of reporting revealed concern over growing violence on Los Angeles, but did not suggest any particular alarm at one more Mexican casualty. So they're like, things are getting a little crazy down there. Look, this could spread to whites. Yes. That could be a problem. Soon after, California's governor ordered L.A. County law enforcement to crack down on street violence and youth gangs.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Battle, we continue to wage, and we will figure out how to stop all these assholes from just trying to shut down. you know, what's going pretty good. Pretty good. Things are pretty good. And if you go to, you know, if you see the way the cops act in downtown L.A., you'll see that it's pretty good. Yeah. Where it, you know, we're getting close.
Starting point is 00:17:55 We're nearing figuring this out. Yeah, we almost got. I think my one note for the, maybe a little more gear. Yes. You know, if we could just put a couple more things on them, you know, I showed you video a couple weeks ago, that guy who built the indestructible suit that could be attacked by a bear
Starting point is 00:18:14 or enormous bar could be dropped from a tree and hit him. I think something like that would be pretty good. Now you're getting into like a robocop territory? Yeah, but bulkier. Because right now they just don't have enough stuff. The only thing about Robocop is that he didn't have enough equipment
Starting point is 00:18:31 on him. He just had the hands that were... Yeah, and he was too tall. I like my cop-rod-3-8. Yeah. Three eight, kind of a Napoleon thing going on. Well, now you're getting into like robot dog territory. Yeah, in many ways they are that, you know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It seems cool to be like part of a group like that. They seem to be doing good. Yeah. Yeah, they really are. Sure. We're fine. Yeah, it's fine and it's going to be fine. It's going to get finer.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Mm-hmm. So the governor orders the county, the county cops, to crack down on street violence and youth gangs, and Jose's murder investigation went from just another Brown killed, killed on the streets to a major media event. Quote, in the months that followed, Californians would again revive the discourse
Starting point is 00:19:23 on the Mexican problem. Oh, funny. I did, rope a dope. I did think we were going in the other direction. Oh, you did? Yeah, I kind of thought maybe you were going to say that, you know, people started feeling empathy towards the...
Starting point is 00:19:38 really did and debate whether Mexican citizens and their American-born children were culturally, politically, intellectually, and biologically capable of living within a white, civilized democratic society. Wow, really hitting every angle there.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Every, every... The biology. A whole thing. The biology of a Mexican is inferior. No, no, hold on. Jose's murder happened at a peculiar time in Los Angeles, The police force was reduced due to World War II. God.
Starting point is 00:20:14 What a time. We're the only positive about war. Well, it's like that's what sucks about the wars now. It's just drones and, you know, bombs. Man, when it was boots on the ground, you'd be like, god damn it, there's a lot less cops. Like, fucking hell you. Public confidence in the LAPD was also staggeringly low. The sentiment was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:20:38 but particularly bad in working-class neighborhoods where the people straight up did not respect the cops or their orders. Quote, openly challenging the authority of the police. Yeah. If you can imagine a time in L.A. Imagine. Like the two unmasked police cars who answered a Sunday evening call in July about a craps game in Boyle Heights. Oh, God. Which for some reason was directly across the street from the L.A. County Hospital.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Four plain close cops stormed in, flashed their badges, and broke it up. Quote, two of the spectators, a serviceman and his wife, protested loudly as the officers dragged gamblers back toward their unmarked cars. Hurling epitaphs at the police, the man and a woman urged the crowd of spectators to rescue their arrested comrades. A boisterous thong of mostly Mexican Americans charged a police, cutting them off from their one car with a radio, and the overwhelmed officers tried to arrest whoever they could. But as soon as they managed to push someone into the police car,
Starting point is 00:21:52 members of the crowd yanked open the door on the other side of the car and allowed the person to escape. No! No! Come on! It's like a tunnel now. Now! Yeah, there's a nice little lesson in there. You can't flood the market like you used to.
Starting point is 00:22:09 There's so many now, but it's still possible. Well, now they also, there's video happening all the time. So if you help someone get out of a car, they'll find out who you are. Yeah. During the melee, the riders doused the policeman with Coldwater and tore their clothing, and one officer's hand was slashed by a sharp instrument. new mayor Fletcher Bowerin
Starting point is 00:22:34 won the election in part due to his plan to reorganize the police department I knew it. It's just never good. The LAPD embraced the policy of moving the police from being a reactive enforcer of the law to a
Starting point is 00:22:49 proactive force. Proactive policing is always the best. Absolutely. No. Stop those future crimes. Yeah. This preventative enforcement Brought about a type of... Preventative policing is...
Starting point is 00:23:03 If that doesn't scare you... Well, it's always just a way to stop brown people. Yeah. Yeah. That's all it. Or just anyone. I mean, anyone who supports brown people or is trying to go for anything
Starting point is 00:23:13 that affects the upper crust, you know, like, people who are like, hey, flock cameras are help, but you just like... I don't even know what to say to people when they say that. Well, don't you want safe streets?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Not like... No. No, not anymore. I'm fine. Not anymore. I'm good. No, I don't want them anymore. By the way, I've never been out on the street and had a problem in my town.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I don't even feel like I don't know. I'll tell you what I've never wanted the police to be able to do is like, know what I'm talking about in my car. That's never been something where I'm like, oh, yeah. Like if they start to realize what we're talking about when we drive by them, we're in a lot of trouble. Yeah, we are. Because every time you drive by a cop, you're like, you fucking squealer.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Okay, so the preventative enforcement brought about a type of racial profiling leading to worst relations with minorities, the majority of whom are Mexican or Mexican descent, right? Right. Shortly after Jose's death, the LAPD, quote, conducted mass dragnets throughout the neighborhoods of Los Angeles, targeting those areas heavily populated by Mexicans and African Americans. Hmm. I wonder if they'll find more crimes there. Seems like they might Literally never stopped No, it just like
Starting point is 00:24:36 You know, it's just like breathing It's like sometimes it's retracting a little bit And then only for it to have more expansion shortly thereafter They hauled in over 600 young men and women And the press hailed the police as heroes Oh fucking I We did it Quote
Starting point is 00:24:55 Hundreds of innocent young men and women from Central and Eastern LA were rounded up during the period, finger-preaded and booked. It was a show of force designed to reassure the white middle class that the wartime police force was indeed capable of maintaining law and order among the working class youth who were too poor, too dark-skinned, or too aesthetically different for a mainstream LA preoccupied with wartime security and conformity to understand.
Starting point is 00:25:26 You know, white society, and their law enforcement is essentially are carons at a public pool asking strangers for ID. It's all Karening. It's all, oh my God, you're fishing in my pond. Yeah. How did you get here? I've never seen you around here before. What's your address? You're not allowed to fish in this pond unless you live here. Do you live here? And I love one, I love now when you have full, like when you, when someone is able to tell the cops what they're allowed to do and knows it. And the cops like, all right. Eventually they're just like, 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:25:59 then like, you sure you really have no interest? And they're just like, all right, I'll see you later. Okay, bye. Bye. Fuck you. I guess you read a book. Go fucker fucker.
Starting point is 00:26:06 An example of a typical experience was that of a young man named Angel Padilla. He was rushed into an interrogation room where four cops fired questions at him and Padilla refused to squeal so the cops started slapping him and punching him. One punch he knocked him off his chest. chair and the cop yelled quote sit down so we can hit you some more so he did and the cop kept going quote you mexicans think you're you're smart you guys never fight fair the irony is just like fucking off the fucking chart oh my god oh god almighty they do they really lather themselves up when they're like
Starting point is 00:26:57 beating someone and then they like they flip a switch where they just are mad at how the person is receiving beatings and then they beat them more you're just like man there is like we should just have like dads just ready to hug cops when they're getting like come here boy
Starting point is 00:27:14 come on right over here. I love you. Come on up. Come here. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. You're okay. Daddy's here. You're okay. And he shoots him from within the hug. That's great. Nine dads killed today trying to hug cops. Another said, we ought to shoot every Mexican dog like you. Well, they do like to shoot dogs. That is true.
Starting point is 00:27:42 The head of foreign relations for the sheriff's department testified before a grand jury that Mexican-American youths shared the same, quote, Careful. Total disregard for human life. that the Aztecs displayed in performing human sacrifices. Can we just give a cop credit for knowing what Aztecs are? Well, look, we dug deep into this one, and we have established that the Mexican has a very similar code of conduct
Starting point is 00:28:18 to that of the sacrificial Aztec people. The Mexican believes that if they sacrificed a white, the son of God and the, The children of the sky will come down and bless them with a cup of eternal life that they will get by drinking the blood of their enemies from a skull of their mother. So it's pretty straightforward stuff. If I could summarize, they're dirty, dirty people? They are animals.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Which they still do. They still do the way that they'll be, you know, sometimes the shit. Like, I mean, Jesse Waters on TV at night just being like, Mexicans are fucking dogs. Yeah. It's like, okay. Are we really? Yes, we are.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He's like, I'm being funny. Like Fox News has tried to, and it's sort of working, turn itself into a comedy channel. It really is. It's crazy. Like, it's kind of leaned into this idea. And at night, we're racist, but a little goofy. We're a little goofy racist at night.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's where we get on TV and we like, you know. We do zing hiles and we make little jokes. and we're like sexist fox. We're like Bob hoping it past 6 p.m. There's a lot of people that cruise in to watch Gutfeld. They travel from out of town. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Really crazy. A lot of comics just fucking going on there and just kissing the ring. Dead to me. Kissing the ring. It helps their sales. I know a couple who are like, yeah, definitely like, my soul. Yeah. Yeah, it's not going to feel good.
Starting point is 00:29:55 By the way, that audience, they're dying. Oh no, I read that. Yeah, they're all day. Enjoy it now. Enjoy it now. Enjoy your 60-year-olds. I continue on with his quote. All he knows and feels is a desire to kill or at least to let blood. They are Sun-Raws.
Starting point is 00:30:14 They are a country of Sun-Raz. They believe they get a planet if they kill enough. What? He added his testimony with, quote, whenever the Mexican element receives swift and pure punishment, he then, and only then, respects authority. By the way,
Starting point is 00:30:35 never worked, even, okay, let's say your premise is true. Never worked ever. No, no corporal punishment has ever led to the sophistication of society or the peace emerging. No. And again, that was the head.
Starting point is 00:30:56 of foreign relations. Whites cannot be comfortable. When they get comfy and they're fully driving the car, it's like, Jesus. They can't be uncomfortable either. No, they can't be. Well, their comfort is discomfort. They're always, no matter what, whether they're driving or someone else is giving backseat direct, no matter what it is, like, I will drive. Yeah. Then they're right. Sure.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Again, that was the head of foreign relations for the sheriff's department. Right. Head of foreign relations. Correct. On top of this situation, there were thousands of military men stationed in and around greater Los Angeles, which added a very transient and unstable population into this mix. These men were often from the deep south or other areas of the country without a large or visible Mexican population.
Starting point is 00:31:47 So they saw the American born... Look at all these Aztecs. They saw the American-born Latino young man as a problem. that needed to be dealt with, not Americans they're supposed to protect. Right. So this is before the South unburdened itself of racism. That's correct. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Since 1940, tensions had increased as soldiers and sailors temporarily stayed in L.A. on their way to deployment. Interesting. Quote, Mexican-American youths aggressively challenged the intrusion of white military men to their social spaces as they passed through L.A. by the thousands. Their failure to conform came from a direct refusal to accept the racialized norms of segregated America. Right. So they're not, they haven't learned the lesson yet, right? Right. Because they're, I mean, it's such a heavy Mexican-American population in L.A.
Starting point is 00:32:49 it's not like other places where a minority is a small, small group. It's a big fucking group. And so they're like, go fuck yourself. I'm doing my thing over here. I'm good. Go fuck yourself. So that led to a certain attitude and how they dressed in their attitudes became like, they're like, see, look at them.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, right. Yeah. Right, right. So it's self-fulfilling in a way. They're like, they have problems. They seem to have beef with us. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm not sure what it is. I don't know what's going on with them, but they're not right. So they danced to jazz. They wore... Disgusting. Just like the Aztecs. Wore colorful clothes. Ah, no.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And refused to back down to the oppressive whiteness that dominated the city. So, I mean, okay, so now I'm starting to come around to the white side a little bit. Now I'm hearing the way, I didn't know they were wearing colors. Yes. Yeah. So, man, it's a bit aggressive. I agree. That and jazz.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Thank you. A name of more violent music than jazz. I can't think of one. Just getting all rowdy. You know, you go, excuse me. Yeah. They go home. They toss on a jazz album.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Right. Next thing you know, they're wearing a bunch of red. It's not good. Slashing throats. Yeah, it's just, it's a slippery slope. Yeah. They became known derogatorily as Pachucos. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And it started as a slur, but then they embraced it. Okay. By the way, that's the way to go. We don't like that. So when you all do that to our slurs, that is tough for us, okay? Do not take the power back from us. It always works the best. It's just great.
Starting point is 00:34:32 We're like, now hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. That's our word for you. It's like queer. Yeah. Yeah. They just grab that shit and they're like, we'll take that. No.
Starting point is 00:34:43 That's one of my face. That's so true. It is. It's the way you handle it. It's got to embrace it. It's so funny, but they're like, I heard a couple of them. Queer saying queer the other day. Yeah, we queering it up over here.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I'm worried about the power. We got to come up with new words. It can be hard when we burned all those books. Huh? And then there was also yellow journalism, which creates hysteria. Let's throw that in the mix. Hysteria. Good.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So, and so the particular. Pichucos are just talking back to all whites. They'd fight them to protect their culture and social spaces. The Pachucos are, like, proud of what they are and where they're going. And they'll fucking fight you if you encroach on their shit. So with the yellow journalism, the threat of Pachucco's is insanely over-exaggerated. Quote, so few Mexican-Americans actually fit the stereotype of the Pachuco that for all practical purposes, the public discourse on the so-called Pachuco menace reveals more about public anxieties over assertive non-white use than it does about an actual Mexican-American subculture.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It's a little how Bill Maher views Islam. It's one of those. Absolutely. Mark Twain, award-winning Bill Mark views Islam. I wonder if it's like a cholo, which is like, it's a very specific thing. it's not a huge thing but it's out there and they fucking love their culture
Starting point is 00:36:26 so I wonder if it's like that level of like percentage of the population well it's also you know it is it's you know connected to how racist are the whites not at all
Starting point is 00:36:41 so if the more racist we are the more that you know we're not racist no not racist sorry proud yes thank you we're a bunch of proud boys Pachuco actually had multiple definitions, some totally contradictory.
Starting point is 00:36:57 In L.A. it meant Hick from El Paso, but in El Paso it met Dandy from L.A. That's got to be. That's tough in El Paso. Look at Pachucco. You must be looking at a mirror, Pachucco. You're the Pachuco. Never forget going to El Paso Nguyen up. That's where I found out. I'm like, wait, you guys hate L.A. You guys hate L.A. Mexicans are like, fuck, yeah, fuck, damn.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And I'm like, what's going on? Yeah. Sometimes when you've got to like, you've got to, you're like, oh, what kind of racism is everyone practicing here? They're like, they make us look bad. I'm like, all right. Yeah. No, I'm fucking, I'm with you guys.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I've never been a fan of them. They've been very, quite difficult. So the suits that they wore became the main object of hatred against the Pichukos, known as Zoot Suits. Who's wearing those? The Pichukos. The Pichukos are wearing Zoot suits. So Zoothoos came out of...
Starting point is 00:38:00 White colorful. They came out of black culture. Yeah. Jazz, black jazz culture. Malcolm X era, right? Yes. And probably with the Pachucos from El Paso via the drug trade. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Okay. So that's where the mixing happened. Where there was jazz, there's drugs. And in pre-war America, those drugs probably came across the border. Sounds fucking great. Yeah. That's where I'd want to be if you...
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah. Even though the press went crazy about the zoot-suited up angry youth, pretty much now we think it was less than 5% of Mexican Americans who would dress that way in a flashy suit. And it's probably even less than that. But jazz was popular with the kids, which by the 40s was demonized and racialized so that, the whites used it as a signifier for crime, wild sex, and drug use. God.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It's so great that rock and roll, they were like, oh, I have us a blow. Shit. But did every... Let's go back to jazz. And I have never done this, but I was going to do some episodes on the different reactions to the, like, ragtime.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's all the same. Yeah. Rock. Every single time it's the same. They lose, yes, rap. Whites lose their fucking minds when a new type of music begins. popular.
Starting point is 00:39:21 No, they just lose their fucking minds. It's crazy. It's fucking hysterical. I mean, it's just, it's,
Starting point is 00:39:30 I just, like, again, there are, you know, there's people you know who you're like, this person should be in therapy and stuff. If you're talking about races that just need to get into some like
Starting point is 00:39:42 couples counseling, like get the whites on a couch together for a minute and be like, let's get it out there. What's going on? But it's not, it's not all, whites. No.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's very specifically driven by religious conservative whites. That's where it always starts. Yeah, right. But they're whites. I mean... The rest of the whites don't help. They'll fail easily.
Starting point is 00:40:08 William Davenport wrote in Collier quote, it's a magazine, I think. Sure. The zoot suit is strictly Filipino houseboy on his day off. Go ahead. What does that even mean? it over. What does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:40:21 Just think about it. Filipino house boy on his day off. Are we anti-Philippino house boys? That sounds like a pretty fine guy. I think so. I think they're, no, but I think they're saying like
Starting point is 00:40:31 he is not well behaved on his day off or... Yeah, it's called the day off. Nobody is. You're a day off. You're a piece of shit. You're supposed to be. Day offs are for bonn rips.
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Starting point is 00:47:25 So it mixed gender styles and it made brash statements about the flamboyance, which is it's a drab post-depression now World War II era. So it's everything's, everything's, White people didn't really freak out over Studio 54. They were kind of like, whatever. But at a second, the non-whites are wearing, like, funny suits. Like, get back. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Hold on. Be-ba-ba-ba-ba. A little big, isn't it? So in World War II, there are rigid laws against overconsumption of everything, including fabric. So it's, it is based on, like, a world-ward sacrifice and rationing. Right, right. Quote. By the way.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Can you imagine? No. No. We could never... Meet once a week. We'd eat you. We could literally never do a World War type type ration ever again. No.
Starting point is 00:48:20 We are too... We are so individualizing. It's insane. Crazy. Quote, the Zoot produced a striking silhouette exaggerating the upper male body by highlighting wide shoulders and tapering dramatically down to what Davenport described as a girlish waist snug as a pre-war girdle. So it's like a triangle.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Imagine if Tim Burton designed America. It's a top triangle. Yeah. From the midsection down, it had more of an overt symbol of female fashion in the length and shape of the jacket skirt. The jacket flared from the waist to the knees. It could be worn by men or women. On men, the jacket hid the flowing.
Starting point is 00:49:09 pleaded pants that flared at the knees and angled dramatically down to a tight fit around the ankles. A jazz man quote, at the ankles, the smaller the hipper you were. At the ankles, the smaller, the hipper you were. Right. So you want to have tight ankles. Tight, tight ankles. Yeah. Look, it doesn't sound comfortable.
Starting point is 00:49:28 No, it sounds terrible. But it's the look. Yeah. And everyone's like, oh, my God. Fashion is not about comfort. No, never has been. Look at us. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Not us. look at you. Can't really see me. Upon seeing... I'm certainly white. Upon seeing the zootsuit, or as it's West Coast brother was known as the drape. The drape. Two journalists called it, quote,
Starting point is 00:49:55 rather remarkable spectacle and the oddest phenomenon of the new brand of California Nightlife. So it just looks to whites, it's like, what in the fuck? And also, it's just like... Why is this idea of like you're segregating improperly? You're not supposed to be the ones having fun. Excuse me. Excuse me. We were very clear.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Don't go to our restaurants, but also don't, you're creating a whole culture, which, no. You're supposed to be over there looking poor. Please go over there and eat beans quietly like we would love. Eastern Zooters. Oh, no. Try to outdo each other with the most eye-catching. suit from a conservative shark skin gray to an ostentatious lime green and bright oranges or mixed plaids with chalk stripes that were known as ripe stripes.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Those colors shouldn't be mixing. Malcolm X said his first suit suit was, quote, just wild. It was a sky blue coat that pinched his waist and flared out below his knees. That's a funny picturing him in that. It is really funny. He's like such a sort of intense looking figure, but that he's like. he's also just like, I'm going to go out as a kite. Tonight I'll be wearing a kite.
Starting point is 00:51:18 What's his name? Spike Lee had a Zutsu dance number in the Spike Lee movie, which is one of the worst. One of the worst off-putting scenes I've ever seen a film, but, you know, whatever. But I remember it for how bad that was. It was just like all of a sudden you're like, what are you doing? No, I mean, again, like, you just
Starting point is 00:51:41 gotta hand it to the white power structure that constantly finds ways to be like well our days are numbered just looking for things to be mad always well now they're wearing big suits now and I think so
Starting point is 00:51:56 I mean we really are just Karen's crazy just at the pool like no splashing excuse me no man when you get into when you get locked into a Karen them on Instagram. It's fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:52:11 You got to get out. You got to get out of it. It just doesn't stop. You got to get out of it. You got to get out of it. It's crazy. Well, what's crazy is how much Karen's love Mexican food.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And they're just like going into Mexican restaurants like, can I see your papers? Because they said wet burrito. There is also a whole fucking subgenre of them getting mad at people fishing at ponds. It's so crazy. that's just now that you are deep
Starting point is 00:52:41 you're deep I mean Karen's at Ponds Oh my God That sounds like a subgenre You're not allowed to fish here Yeah It's either it's either I didn't know that I'll stop or
Starting point is 00:52:54 Or oh no I live here No you don't Why don't you think I live here Not because you're black Yeah they're very careful there I like when they start filming Yes
Starting point is 00:53:06 Like what are you doing film right back. Yeah, what, you're being a fucking racist psychopath. I'm also filming the black man. It's okay, but you just said the N-word on his footage. It's so great when they get up at it getting arrested though. I mean, it's so great.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I saw one where, because there's the guy, some guy in Vegas and like there was like some dude was rapping on the street in Vegas and as some dude's getting arrested, he was giving him shit, he just starts doing a freestyle about how that guy's
Starting point is 00:53:37 going to jail the night. Like, you're going to jail? I can't remember how it goes. But now that that song will always play under those. It's so good. Oh, no, because you're going to jail. Because you're going to jail. So good.
Starting point is 00:53:53 In March 1942, the War Production Board issued Order L85, which established the maximum measurements for men's suits and pants. Oh, my God. And restricted the fashion police? The actual fashion police existed. That's correct. Oh, my God. And restricted the availability of material.
Starting point is 00:54:16 You have any idea why I pulled you over? May I take a look at your in scene, please? There we go. It's a four. Let's hold on a second. Waste. Why the sleeve so wide? I'm heavy.
Starting point is 00:54:28 You're an inch over, sir. Put your hands behind your back. Where are your hands, by the way there? I lost weight. Deep in these sleeves. I've been working out. Too bad. You should have thought of that before he wasted all this fabric.
Starting point is 00:54:39 You're going downtown. He's not even in the suit anymore. He snuck out of it. Okay, so it restrict the availability of material for civilian use. The result was men's fashion became more conservative. So it worked. Yes. Out were double-breasted suits, wide lapels, vests, pleaded pants with cuffs, and overlapping waistbands.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And especially the very not-wrested. white zoot suit. Retail stores now won't sell them. You had to find enough fabric on your own and make them on your own. Sure. Quote, hipsters in the east donned pants with the rise so high that the waist came up to just a few inches below their armpits. Oh my God. Erkle times? Sitched with a belt or white suspenders? They literally urcled? How are you? Did I do that?
Starting point is 00:55:39 It's got to be just under your tithas. Titty pants. And before I measure your waist, what's your tit with? On the front of the pants were two to three inch wide pleats. That is so awesome to be like, credit, please. The pleats allowed up to 30. 24 inches of material to balloon out at the knees. So they're pleaded so that they're pleaded so that they can get bigger as it goes down.
Starting point is 00:56:14 So it kind of is just like a titty dress? Yeah, that's what I'd call it. Yeah. Kind of like cocktail dress? Yeah, I, yeah. 34 inches at the knees. That's what I am. Which then dropped down toward a 6 inch ankle and finished off in a cuff 3 to 5 inches deep.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Wow. this prompted one fashion critic to comment that the zoot pants looked like two upended baby blimps. Oh, that's, come on now. Yeah. Makes a very little sense. But that is what you get for trying to tell people what to wear you. Well, if you, if you're selling zoot suits in a store and then you make that illegal, they're going to make their own zoot suits. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And now they're going to go hog wild With the Like they're going to take it all directions Jesus Christ These are just aprons The hell's going on But it's not just the suits And both eastern and western versions
Starting point is 00:57:22 included an extremely long, thick-linked gold-plated watch chain drooping to the knee From the vest to pants pockets That sounds insane you know what's funny is my my my all my memories well there's cab cali but all my memories go back to cartoons yeah some of it feels cartooning there's i remember there was like a wolf yeah that's what i that's what i've been picture the wolf in a suit suit yeah which is also a little bit of racist if you
Starting point is 00:57:51 think about it is it well yeah bad boy wolf yeah a little bit sweet i mean like i told you my first crush was made marian excuse me well i told you that my first crush was the Fox made Marion from Robin Hood, the Disney one. That was the first woman I was attracted to. And by the way, quite attracted to her. Did you masturbate to her? No, but I definitely saw us ending up together if it didn't work out with Robin Hood. She was very, very aesthetically pleasing.
Starting point is 00:58:25 She's also a real sweetheart. I mean, you know, again, I'm... Not a real sweetheart. She was an absolute sweetheart. She's not real. I'm not going to, you know, We're not going to go into that right now. I think we are.
Starting point is 00:58:39 No, but she was very, very attractive, and I'm sure she still is. And if the, if the Maid Marian from the Disney Robin Hood cartoon is still out there, call me. I'd love to cram it. Yeah, okay, so there's a bunch of like wolves. Have you seen the, are you looking at Made Marion? That are in Zoot suits and cartoons. Oh, yeah, and they are fangy and. But so this is, these are predatory.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I mean, the timeline on this is these are from like the 40s. So it would make sense based on what we're talking about, right? Yeah. So the big bad wolf. Yep. Yeah. And you can tell they got those fangs. And just so we have it.
Starting point is 00:59:27 You know, this is what I'm talking about right there. Check that out. Bar-da-boom. I've never been more worried about you than the fact that you were into her. you don't think she's hot you don't think that's a hot cartoon fox no i mean she's got pretty eyes she's got great eyes
Starting point is 00:59:45 but that's a fox that's what i'm saying you could have so easily been mr hands you were probably so close to going down that path and something by the way look at this something's like uh just you banging foxes people are having people are you tell me that's not hot no the internet's having fun with her nowadays
Starting point is 01:00:05 She's getting hotter and hotter. I bet you can find videos. She's had her lips done. I bet you can find videos of her getting banged. Are you going to do that? Let's get back to the show. I bet there's dirty, dirty ones of all the cartoon characters. So there's got to be dudes out there like you who are, let me just say this.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I'm trying to be politically correct. Totally fuck in the head. Does that make sense? I'm not finding any. I'm not finding any Maid Marian porn. Oh, I bet it's there. I guarantee you. You know what?
Starting point is 01:00:38 You know, I'm probably not the best guy looking for porn. You guys go ahead and start a Reddit thread for Gareth to go and look at. Is it Made Marion? Is that her name? Made Marion Fox porn because he's going to need... More like Laid Marian. He's going to need something to get through these nights. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:58 It's been hot here. Oh, my God. You find one? Well, look at that. She had her tits done. Man, she... Oh, hokey-dokey. I probably should go out of there,
Starting point is 01:01:11 because I'm actually... Lines are blurring between nature and man. Oh, dear. Oh, boy. There's no way there is not a picture of her with them out. Those tattas. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to do with furry titties,
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Starting point is 01:04:42 Okay, so you also needed thin shoes. The thinner, the better. That seems like a bad call. There's no history. We don't know why. It was cool. We don't know why it was cool to have incredibly thin shoes. Sounds horrible.
Starting point is 01:04:55 But Cab Calloway once bragged that, quote, his shoes were so thin that he could roll them up at a ball. That is such a strange brag. I don't know. But if Cab Cal... I mean, if there's anyone I'm going to listen to on this, it's Cap Cal right? Fuck. He could roll his shoes in a ball. But I don't know if that means like, are they like slipper type? I'm picturing aqua socks. Yes. Aqua socks. Yeah, pool socks. Pool shoes. Pool shoe? It's a very strange podcast suddenly. Well, no, because the shoes that I... Aquasawks.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Alpachuco zoot shoes. But they just look like regular shoes. They look like fancy shoes here. So I don't know what the thin part is. Okay. Anyway, the show, the shoe trend was the opposite in L.A. There was not thin shoes. Fat shoes.
Starting point is 01:05:53 East, it's thin shoes west. The boys wanted the thickest shoes. The thickest shoes. thick as souls, the heaviest shoes possible. Nice. Big old fucking shoes. Again, I'm not trying to go against the culture of the time, but how about just regular shoes? No, you got to get big shoes.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I would like shoes that, like, you know, shoes that are nice. Nah, fuck that. I want invisible shoes. Some historians believe that this was because they wanted the shoes, quote, to serve as counterweights that would anchor them down while swinging their dance parters in the air. Now, okay. Now we're talking. That sounds dumb. That sounds not true.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Now I'm getting it. Because it would impair dancing if you had big shoes. No, but you just like you get on the dance floor, you get your buddy to put like concrete in your shoes. All of a sudden you're like bottom heavy. You're like 100 pounds down there. You could sling a woman all over. You take Maid Marion, you're spinning her around. Next thing you know.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Okay. Who knows what happens? Excuse me. I'm on Reddit. I can't talk right now. But the cops believe they wanted heavy shoes. so they can use them as weapons during gang fights. Yes, as opposed to, say, weapons.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Of course. Take the time to take off your shoes and hit a guy. Yeah, of course. Why not? Why carry a knife when you can use your shoes? Bobby Garcia, quote, If you got stopped by a cop, they used to call our shoes deadly weapons. Well, that's going to be easy to get a lot of convictions.
Starting point is 01:07:22 We were trying to help the country, and they were calling us Nazis. Yeah, that is, yeah. Yep. And, I mean, again, perfect. When you make shoes a weapon, you just literally, you're going downtown. For what? Possession of shoes. What was I supposed to wear?
Starting point is 01:07:38 Step in the car, sir. Can I measure your shoes, son? Put the shoes on the scale there. There we are. Oh, my God. Four pounds. Oh, dear. What are we doing, kid?
Starting point is 01:07:47 You've got to kill someone tonight. He's a fool. Girls also had a modified suit suit, short black skirts and hose with the broad shoulders, shouldered and longer coat of the boy's costume. Quote, the girls are sometimes known as Puchukas or slick chicks and glory in the role. The white Angelenos could just not understand,
Starting point is 01:08:10 nor could they accept that these working class brown kids got their flashy clothes or even just money in general without stealing it. Well, you know, this is the truth. They are just like, they're cool. Stop them. But it's not just that. This is the, why does everybody have a big TV argument?
Starting point is 01:08:33 What's this? Oh, they, you know, these fucking people that they, they can barely get fucking buy, right? They're complaining about it. They don't have money. But they have a big fucking TV. And you're like, yeah, they actually want to have some parts of life that they enjoy. And if there's one thing you would buy, one thing you would spend extra money on if you're poor, it's a quality television. because now you can have endless enjoyment
Starting point is 01:09:00 and be distracted. At home. But that's this. That's how fucking dare they? And they're like, this is the thing they have. This is their one thing. No, and then now that distills down to like, they're buying soda on food stamps.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah, it's exactly right. Excuse me, poor people? Is that orange crush? Yeah, like, no, I'm sorry. You'll have brink. broccoli for juice. Okay? Allow me to live inside your
Starting point is 01:09:35 asshole and decide everything. Are you not eating rice and beans? Oh, it's a steak. What? It's a what? Excuse me? It's a what? I don't think you're prepared for what's about to happen physically to your body.
Starting point is 01:09:49 You're poor. You're not going to handle this properly. I eat steak. You eat old gloves that the government gives you. everything that happened. A book. Ain't you supposed to be thinking? That's free.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Go write a book on your roof. When LAPD frisked 18-year-old Johnny Matus, who had no criminal record before the Sleepy Lagoon case, they found $89 in his pocket and refused to believe that he had earned it. Again. How could this kid have money? How could he have fucking money? There's a lot of money you're carrying around. So it's $250.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Would you get it? Excuse me? $250 what? Yeah. Who'd you rob? I just, I worked for a couple weeks. Okay, okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Just seems like a lot of money to be walking. A lot of money. Well, we're taking you downtown. Well, look, we have a reason to search your car. The canine hit. Quote, the arresting officers tried to beat a confession out of him until he passed out. Well, again, we shouldn't really call it passing out.
Starting point is 01:11:03 That's like going beaten unconscious. Well, going nine-nine. Well, you know what? Don't fucking walk around with money. Yeah, this whole, again, it's a real gray area as to who's right in this one. You're going to tell me you've got a pocket full of money in big shoes and you're not out there doing crime? Unfortunately, he won't be able to confess for a little while. We killed him.
Starting point is 01:11:24 So. His fault. That's a confession. when Henry Levas was 17 That's the guy at the very beginning He got beaten with his girlfriend Was 17, police arrested him And his 15-old brother
Starting point is 01:11:38 For driving a stolen vehicle The police refused to believe That the car belonged to their dad And the brothers were held in jail For three days Until their father could prove That he actually owned the car Oh, for fuck's sake
Starting point is 01:11:54 It's the old joke driving while black But this is driving while Mexican in LA. Yeah. It's just, I mean, again, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:02 what? At least we don't do this anymore. No, I was just going to say it. I mean, you know, for, for classes or races,
Starting point is 01:12:09 where it's just like, yeah, you're guilty until proven innocent. That is always the fucking way. Always. I told you that I have a cop that a LAPD guy that lives on my corner. He's like a detective.
Starting point is 01:12:23 And he, he pulled up one night and immediately got pulled over. by the sheriffs and he's Mexican and so the sheriff's leave and I go I go what's up and he goes that happens all the time
Starting point is 01:12:38 he goes in his house it's sundown town they're still sundown towns baby whites had a visual reaction when they saw a zootsuit yeah of course oh motherfucker it was the symbolism
Starting point is 01:12:54 My wife's wet he must die It was the symbol of money, sex, and attitude, and it wasn't cheap between 1,000 to 2,500 in today's money. Oh, man. So rich and middle class white sought as a waste of precious funds. You know, again, it's the big TV. It's the big TV, and it's always the, like, in this timeline we're on now, where you're just like frame fucking people over what they're buying when we are talking about bunkered out buildings. billionaires. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And you're like, you shouldn't be able to get pop with your food stamps. Then work hard. You need more of a grind. And meanwhile, Elon Musk is snorting dried up tie boys. Many. They are very dry,
Starting point is 01:13:53 a little nose jerky. Yeah, for sure. Many questioned just exactly how young men of color got enough money to buy these suits And since the zoot suit used material resources that patriotic citizens were foregoing for the war effort, wearing one was seen as a total disregard for community of thrift and sacrifice. We're in our I'm not racist but era. I found an excuse to be terribly racist.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I'm not racist, but should these people be having suits like that? We get it a lot. We also get this a lot right now with cars. There's a whole car culture thing, and it really upsets people. One social psychologist said putting on a zoot suit was like putting on the fans version of a sports jersey, but in this case, the members of the team were outcasts and villains. Wow. That sums it all up.
Starting point is 01:15:00 That is such, that's like very well put. Yeah. The, yes. The whites viewed that as the away jersey at their home game. That's right. Exactly. So soon, I mean, like a Raiders jersey, there's no different. If you see a Raiders jersey, like 50% chance they get killed right now.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Right, right. Of course. So soon after the big public crackdown. Raiders have really leaned into it, though. Like before they go to halftime, you'll see like some guy, you're like, Jesus Christ, his. skeleton faces bleeding. Like, what?
Starting point is 01:15:34 How did he do that? Raiders are five and one. I'll never forget when the news came in one day. I heard that it was when the Raiders were playing at LA Coliseum and someone had bitten off someone else's nose and then they were like, it was a Raiders fan. They bit off the nose.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I'm like, yeah, you don't have to go into that part. Like, everybody gets that. Of course, it was a Raiders fan. Yeah, by the way, the owner Al Davis didn't have a nose either. So that was... Well, Lisa's son knows how to cut hair. Yeah, no, I mean, honestly, I always wondered what would happen if Al Davis fucked John Gruden. And, you know, thankfully, they've been able to prove that through new Raider ownership.
Starting point is 01:16:13 So soon after the big public... What if the Beach Boys banged Al Davis? It's not even... It's like there's no bull cut in America that is more severe. That's crazy. It's the severest... And I think he's like, I think he's dating America. made Marion. Like, I think he's like, God, I think he's like some...
Starting point is 01:16:33 Well, he's a billionaire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get to be the saddest-looking weirdo alive, and it doesn't matter. So soon after the big public crackdown, the cops went in front of every camera to tell the city that they had found the murders of Josea Diaz, the suit of youths who lived on 38th Street. And they arrested them. And that is the end of part one. it's a good feeling I mean white pride is at a low in many ways and I think stuff like this is going to get us right back where we need to
Starting point is 01:17:08 because we are we really are the Protestant theme of anti-fun is so fucking horrible for the world yeah it's just like sick control
Starting point is 01:17:26 I mean we just are you know we're just like we're just it's fucking crazy um It has not stopped. It is, we are humming right now. But it's just this, like, Steve, we live in Stephen Miller's wet dream because he's allowed to police anyone who he feels like stands in the way of his white loser topia being able to exist. And you just see it everywhere. wherever there's pain and screaming and people who are brown people are being treated indiscriminately as criminals because Stephen Miller was hated his whole life until he finally achieved where he got to now.
Starting point is 01:18:19 He is literally the spiritual ancestor of bin Laden. He looks like the guy who. who came up with the Salem if they float, they're a witch, if they drown. He does. Like, he literally looks like the guy who's like, that's pretty perfect. He was probably like jacking off
Starting point is 01:18:42 while he was quilling it on a scroll. Sources. First of all, written by Josh Androwski, murder at the Sleepy Lagoon by Eduardo Abragon Pagan, Colliers Magazine, Los Angeles Examiner,
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