The Dose - “All Hands On Deck”: The COVID-19 Pandemic Through Nurses’ Eyes
Episode Date: March 12, 2021Health care workers are among the heroes of the pandemic. One year in, many of us are experiencing stress, fatigue, and grief. But this can pale in comparison to the toll faced by those caring for the... sick and dying on a daily basis. On this episode of The Dose, we listen to the stories of one group of frontline health workers: nurses. Often dealing with inadequate PPE and staff shortages, nurses are putting their own lives at risk — and many are experiencing burnout and exhaustion. Our guest, Mary Wakefield, takes us on a journey from rural hospitals to clinics in underserved areas, all through the eyes of nurses. Mary, a nurse with a long career in health care and public service, says the pandemic has revealed that America’s public health infrastructure is “incredibly anemic.”
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Our public health infrastructure, as many people recognize clearly now, is incredibly anemic.
The largest proportion of public health workforce is comprised of nurses, and yet there are still too few.
Hi everyone, welcome to The Dose.
We've now been living in lockdown for an entire year.
For me, and I imagine for many of you, it's been an emotional roller coaster.
But then I stopped to think about what it has been like for people caring for those who are
sick with COVID-19. What I'm feeling is nothing compared to what healthcare workers are dealing
with. On today's episode, we're going to take a look at the pandemic through the eyes of one group of health workers, nurses.
Nurses play a critical role in our healthcare system, but are sometimes overlooked.
So I want to dedicate today's show to nurses.
My guest, Mary Wakefield, is a nurse, professor, and among several noteworthy positions, has worked for President Obama.
Most recently, she served on the Biden-Harris transition team.
Mary is also a longtime advocate for nurses and a champion for their work to improve healthcare in rural America.
Mary, welcome to the show.
Thanks, Shanur. It's a delight to be here with you.
We're speaking at a time when people are exhausted, as I said earlier, especially healthcare workers.
Tell me how nurses are doing.
How are your colleagues feeling?
Well, you know, as you pointed out, everyone's feeling exhausted.
The shifts that all people have had to contend in their personal lives have been significant. But now you layer on
top of that individuals who go to work in a work environment that puts their health directly at
risk for contracting an infectious disease, and it also potentially puts their family's health at
risk. I think that if there was a meter that measured exhaustion, I think many nurses on the
front lines of this pandemic would be in the red zone, whether they're working in a public health
department or they're working in a critical care unit. So I'm just guessing here, but could one of
the causes of exhaustion have to do with what I've seen in the headlines a lot, which is that
actually nationally we have a shortage of nurses? Well, that's a really straightforward question. Do we have a shortage of nurses?
And I would say it does not have, unfortunately, a straightforward answer. Over the past year or so,
past number of years, rather, we've had periods of time when it seems like there's been an
oversupply of nurses. Nurses have had challenges in finding jobs. And then there's been periods of times when we've seen a real demand for more
nurses. What we know for sure, Shanur, almost all the time, regardless of cycles, is that we have a
maldistribution of nurses by geography. We have shortages of nurses in certain locations, sometimes in underserved inner cities,
in public hospitals, sometimes in rural areas and rural hospitals across the country. And that's
almost been a steady state of undersupply, inadequate numbers of nurses practicing in our
rural hospitals and practicing in some of our urban areas as well. Because of the COVID
pandemic, we're seeing severe, almost rolling shortages that in 2020 pulsed across the country.
And as the numbers of hospitalized and very sick patients increased on medical floors and in
intensive care units, so too accompanying that was a need for additional medical nurses, nurses with
that expertise, and a need for intensive care unit nurses, nurses with that specialized expertise.
Those are not skills that you can learn in a day or in an hour to practice really effectively in
that high stress, high demand environment. So when you start with an inadequate workforce,
and you layer on top of that, a COVID pandemic, that's a recipe for real challenges in delivering
adequate care without burning out your nursing staff.
You started to paint a picture, Mary, of what it was like last March. And I wonder how some of these overburdened nurses,
people who, as you say, might have been asked to be learning the skills of being an ICU nurse on
their feet in the middle of a crisis, how are they doing? Fear and exhaustion were commonplace early on as nurses were struggling to better understand the disease and the disease processes and the care in surveys were indicating concern for their own
personal safety, that they might be at risk for contracting this infectious disease. We know that
that has been borne out because CDC itself reported last fall over 156,000 healthcare
workers who had contracted COVID. In the United States, as of February 2021, about a third of the deaths of healthcare workers
who contracted COVID at their work sites, about a third of those deaths have been among nurses.
So this fear wasn't something that was misplaced. However, over time, nurses have acclimated and
become more confident. When I talk to my rural nurse colleagues,
they say the initial fear of the unknown was very hard to overcome, but they gained confidence in
caring for patients over time who came in with COVID and in their own skill set. And that
certainly made a difference. So before we talk about the new confidence they've gained, I did want to ask, is the
fear that nurses are experiencing different or somewhat specific when we compare it to
the fear that other healthcare workers, doctors are dealing with?
I don't know that there is a difference in fear among healthcare workers, whether you're
talking about doctors or nurses or respiratory therapists.
But I do know this, nurses, that professional group is the group of individuals who spend the
most time interfacing with a patient on an eight-hour shift or a 12-hour shift. They're
the individuals who tend to spend the most time with the family members of those patients. They're in that room
or in close proximity, minute by minute, monitoring, assessing, engaging with family members
and with that patient, planning interventions, fulfilling those interventions that a patient
needs. So there's a bond and a connectedness between that nurse, that family, that patient, that I think is unique
to nurses in that respect. Especially at the beginning of the pandemic, there was an acute
shortage of PPE. How are nurses getting through these long and difficult shifts in that circumstance?
That was a crisis. In the United States, an incredibly rich country compared to so many
other countries around the world nurses in my generation generations that have come behind me
have not had to worry about for any length of time a shortage in the basic personal protective
equipment available to them that's not been a worry for healthcare staff and certainly not for nurses
generally in the United States, regardless of where you're practicing. It hit hard in this
pandemic when nurses did not have adequate gowns, gloves, if they were working in nursing homes,
they were working in hospitals, putting them directly at risk in terms of their own safety,
and also trying to prevent them from potentially being
a carrier of this disease to other patients for whom they were caring. So it was a high-risk
environment that we never should have been in. That risk has certainly subsided since early in
2020, but you absolutely still hear nurses expressing concern about the need to reuse equipment, use processes that they
have never had to use before in terms of recycling equipment that historically would never have been
needed. So much of that concern has been mitigated, but certainly not all of it.
And another concern I imagine would be the fact that all states weren't hit by the pandemic
at the same time in the same way. So there were places that experienced a shortage of nurses
that then didn't have a way of bringing in enough nurses to care for their patients.
Can you talk about that problem? Sure. So just as we saw a surge in patients, people impacted with this illness, you need to be
able to surge your healthcare workforce right alongside of that surge in the number of individuals
who need nursing care and other healthcare interventions.
And so we saw that rolling across the country, that wave affecting different communities, and then
increasing the demand for nurses. What happened as a result of that? Well, in many states,
the governors and state boards of nursing changed their requirements for licensure in order to allow
a fast surge of nurses to move into those states. In other words, places like New York, Utah, Mississippi, governors issued
executive orders and emergency procedures that allowed nurses from other states to flex into
those states to help meet their patients' needs very rapidly. Rather than having to wait weeks
for a nurse to get a license in the state of New York, for example, they were on autopilot coming
into those states almost. Obviously, they had to have a license, and there were variations in terms of how 16 or 17 governors
managed this, but there were many procedures put in place that allowed nurses who had retired to
come back in within a state and that allowed nurses to cross state boundaries very expeditiously.
All of that makes perfect sense when you start to see telemedicine crossing state borders, for example, and when you see this uptick in need for nurses as a result of local disasters,
could be floods, hurricanes, etc. You need to be able to surge in nurses. State licensing laws
should not stand in the way. So when you are speaking to nurses, can you give me an was watch your nightly news and
you could see where these outbreaks were occurring. And there is a cohort of nurses who were willing
and able to volunteer, move into those environments and practice. There certainly were nurses who were
waiting too long when their skills and knowledge were needed immediately.
Mm-hmm. And when we think about the immediate need for support, I want to talk
about what was happening in rural communities. What's it like for nurses who are working in
remote parts of the country, where many people may not have easy access to a hospital? What was
the role that nurses were playing there?
Yeah, so a big part of rural America has shortages of health profession staff. Matter of fact,
the majority of our health profession shortage areas in the U.S. are in rural areas. So you're already starting with a thin line of registered nurses, for example. If you lose two nurses from
a small community hospital, you may have lost a big proportion of your nursing staff.
Every nurse matters in those environments.
Many of the nurses in rural America tend to be older.
There's a higher proportion of older nurses in rural areas.
And so at the start of COVID, when it looked like our older populations, and we know this to be true now, were most susceptible to this
disease, becoming severely ill with it. Nurses who tended to be older, 65, 66, who might have
been thinking about retiring two years later, started to think about retiring immediately or
within a couple of weeks because they were in that high risk category. So you saw this migration out.
And then you also saw a loss of nurses because all of a
sudden they had to isolate. They were exposed to COVID and maybe contracted COVID. And again,
there too, you're seeing an erosion of the nursing staff in places where you have a very thin line.
So extra stress in those communities where you didn't have backup and you didn't have the
capacity oftentimes to compete for traveling nurses.
Can you take me to a scene in one of these rural hospitals or rural clinics?
What was happening when there was a surge of COVID cases?
Initially, nurses were very concerned when the first patients came in,
really fearful, anxious about whether or not they had the skills and knowledge to protect those patients and to care for them and to help them get healthy. They were also fearful for
themselves and for their families. Once they cared for those first few patients with that diagnosis
of COVID-19, they developed a confidence in their skill set. That was really important. And you know
why it was so important? Because in many cases,
rural hospitals that would ordinarily transfer to major medical centers their sickest patients,
they were told by the major medical centers, we can't take your patient. We don't have a bed for
them. You need to keep them local. And probably in many instances, you'll be doing the same thing
for them there. And you'll have the same capacity and technology to care for them in your rural hospital as we have in our urban hospital. So nurses found themselves caring
for patients that were much more acutely ill that historically would have been transferred.
So they didn't have the ability always to transfer out a patient. They didn't have the ability
to ask for more nurses to come in from their community. They relied really on the resources that they had,
which was relying on each other.
That team approach to care became critically important.
And do you think that this confidence
will last beyond the pandemic?
Yes, I think so.
And I think that nurses looking out for each other
was part of the team building.
You certainly heard about that in urban areas. I absolutely heard about it from rural areas. Some
rural hospitals, for example, nurses would create a buddy system so that each nurse assigned another
nurse to them, a nurse that would check in with them. How are you doing? How are you feeling?
How are you managing? And who were they talking to? They
were talking to a peer who was experiencing the same thing. So peer supports developed organically
almost. And in some cases, directors of nursing actually stepped it up and started those peer
support systems. I want to shift gears a little bit and talk about one of the things that has
been hardest to stomach about this pandemic, which is the huge racial disparity in cases and deaths. And we know now that people
of color have been much worse impacted than white Americans. Could you talk about how nurses
specifically have been impacted by this, both the workforce and the people they care for? Yes. The data are clear that this pandemic has impacted
people of color, people across race and ethnicity very differently. We're not talking about a gap
in how different populations are being impacted. This is a chasm with severe impacts on American Indian, Alaska
natives, in some cases, Blacks, Hispanics versus white populations. That's not lost on healthcare
providers. It's not lost on nurses who are caring for these patients as they come through the doors.
The data are showing us clearly people of color are contracting the illness more frequently. They're dying from it more often. Healthcare providers, including nurses,
are seeing this. And it means that in real time, just as we've identified older people as a high
risk category, and we've moved vaccinations to them more rapidly, we need to look at these other
categories of individuals who are being impacted more severely and determine what needs to happen, what additional protective measures need to be pulled forward rapidly to address those populations as well.
That's a good pivot to what I wanted to conclude with, which is solutions. What have we learned from this pandemic about what needs to change
specifically when it comes to making it easier for nurses to do the very important work that they do?
Well, the after action report on all of this has got to include the basics of personal protective
equipment. We talked a little bit about that already, but as I said,
that's still a concern. Nurses and other healthcare providers in the United States should never,
ever again be put in this situation where they do not have what they need to be able to protect
themselves and to be able to protect all of the patients for whom they care. Never again should
we see nurses put in this position because nurses became sick
as a result of it, and some nurses probably died directly as a result of it. So going forward,
we need to make sure that there's an adequate supply. Obviously, the Biden-Harris administration
is looking hard at this, and actions are being taken to ensure that we can handle surges in
health crises with adequate equipment, adequate hospital beds, and be able to surge the
nursing workforce across state lines as we need them. So national licensure for nurses, something
that needs to be talked about, or more rapidly moving to state compacts that encompass virtually
all states rather than the subset of states that are participating in state compacts right now.
Mental health and support for the workforce, absolutely essential.
When we've got grief, stress, burnout that is causing nurses to talk about leaving the workforce,
surveys are showing nurses saying they want to move away from the bedside.
It's exhaustion that's driving that. They're saying this is not something they thought about
before the pandemic, but they're feeling it now. We've got to have resources locally for nurses. Good news is there are many hospitals have stepped up. They've created
resources for their nurses, both rural hospitals and urban hospitals, but that has to be a very
high priority to provide that support for the workforce. Hopefully we're rounding a corner in
the United States as cases are starting to fall, deaths are starting to fall. But the public has a role in
this too, to get vaccinated, to wear masks, to socially distance, so that less pressure is put
on hospitals, on nurses in the workforce in terms of the numbers of people for whom they care.
Finally, Mary, you've already said that we're rounding a corner. Hopefully,
cases and deaths are going down.
More people are getting vaccinated. What is the role that nurses are playing in this vaccination
effort? Well, you know, great news. The schools of nursing across the country in many situations
are actually fielding their nursing students into mass vaccination sites to assist with that process
as part of their clinical learning experience and also as a place for nursing students to volunteer.
I went in to get my first vaccine, and I was delighted when I saw four nursing students
helping out in that vaccination effort. A lot of nursing schools are stepping in to help at
these sites. It's happening all over the country. And we have
thousands, scores of thousands of nursing students that can be fielded from community colleges
to university settings right into these settings. That's happening. More of it needs to happen.
In part, there's a need for this because our public health infrastructure, as many people
recognize clearly now, is incredibly anemic.
The largest proportion of public health workforce is comprised of nurses, and yet there are still
too few. We've seen an erosion in the United States public health infrastructure over the
last number of years. That has got to be built back up. We need more public health nurses,
not the same, we need more. In the meantime,
we're having to augment, of course, in this crisis situation we're in with nurses from other
settings, with volunteer nurses coming back in who might've let their licenses lapse because
they've retired. As a matter of fact, my license has not lapsed. I still am a registered nurse
and I'll be going in and actually assisting myself. I'm getting my second vaccination in just
a couple of days, and I'm going to be right in there right along with those nursing students
administering those vaccinations. It's an all-hands-on-deck moment across the United States.
Nurses who have retired are stepping back in. Nurses whose licenses have lapsed are stepping
back in. Nurses like me who work in health policy are stepping back in.
Thank you for everything you do, Mary, and thank you so much for joining us today. It's a pleasure to be with you stepping back in. Thank you for everything you do, Mary,
and thank you so much for joining us today.
It's a pleasure to be with you, Shanur. Thank you.
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