The Downbeat - Bryce Krawczyk - World Record Powerlifter

Episode Date: September 27, 2020

My guest this week is Bryce Krawczyk. Bryce is a world record holding powerlifter and coach from Calgary, Canada. Bryce is the co-owner of the popular youtube fitness channel Calgary Barbell, where he... provides amazing content for the lifting community. We spoke about many things, including how I can't get my MOJO back about the gyms reopening. He actually wrote me a back-to-basics plan which you can download on the Downbeat IG. As an avid fan of heavy music and tattoos, we also talk about those a bunch and bond over his incredibly heavy top 5 bands.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, hey, hey, what is going on? It's me again. It's your boy. I'm back within the space of time that a normal podcast would have another episode, almost like I'm taking it seriously. What's going on? I know what's going on. We know what's going on in the world.
Starting point is 00:00:18 It's whatever. And what I'm doing now, as I've taken it, I've bestowed upon myself the knighthood of talk. talking to you about shit that isn't to do with Corona. So we got a non-musical guest. Before I go into who the non-musical guest is, hope you're all doing well. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Starting point is 00:01:36 I hope I'm saying that right. Bryce is a world record holding powerlifter from Calgary. I was going to do a Canadian accent. I've realized I can't do one. I can't do any accents. He's from Calgary in Canada. he has, I believe, he tells me in the thing, but off the top of my head, the world record equipped deadlift in a tested federation under competition rules.
Starting point is 00:02:08 If you don't know what a deadlift is, it's an exercise, basically, but it's a cool exercise. It's not like going on a treadmill trying to lose weight and having a six-pack. It's like real gorilla picking stuff up. Ra, rah, rah, cool shit. What a professional person I am We talk about Basically I just rang him
Starting point is 00:02:28 And he did know it was a podcast But I phoned him and was like, oh my mate Gyms are opening up again I feel like shit I'm crap at the gym I'm out of shape I want to get into shape And I want to enjoy it again
Starting point is 00:02:42 Because I've fallen out of love With absolutely everything Because of this dastardly virus And he basically gave me some cool advice He loves metal He's repped the down beat gear for a while and I've rep the Calgary barbell gear for a while. He does coaching as his main job other than being superstar powerlifter. And what he did actually, we talked through a
Starting point is 00:03:03 program about getting me back into the gym and then we finished up the chat and he sent it to me in a PDF. It's an eight week program. We're calling it the downbeat back to basics programs to get my stupid ass back in the gym. And what we've done is we've put the PDF. completely free if you go to the Downbeat Instagram whatever that is at the Downbeat in the link tree
Starting point is 00:03:31 in the bio in fact no you just got it only do you go to only flams I can't remember one of those things go to the fucking Instagram I don't care I could re-record this but I'm not going to go to the Instagram
Starting point is 00:03:43 click the link in the bio and we'll have a link there for the Downbeat Back to Basics plan eight weeks let me know how you get on I've been doing it I'm on the second week
Starting point is 00:03:53 and it's kicking my ass. It was supposed to put me in the gym like sort of nicely, but I think I overshot my numbers and I'm an egotistical wanker. So it's really kicking my ass. Really appreciate him taking the time to do that. He didn't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And I really appreciate him taking a time to chat with me. It's Bryce Crutchek on the Downbeat podcast. Bryce? I'm going to get it right. Croccheck. Hey, that was pretty damn close, man. what uh yeah it's it's crotchuk crotchick pretty much same thing yeah yeah yeah i'll give it to you i'll give it to you i'll
Starting point is 00:04:43 give it to you i'll take that i'll tell you how the fuck you doing i'm doing good man how are you yeah i'm good i got this uh podcast wrong by an hour i thought it was in an hour's time that's why i uh oh shoot okay fucked up but this works better for me because i can eat sooner um beautiful you are only the second the second guest that isn't primarily in the music realm. Okay, who's the other one? Ever. Will Thompson, who does quite a lot of my tattoos.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Oh, right on. Okay. Because you're an interesting fucking guy. Oh, well, thank you. I appreciate that. And during these times where I don't technically have a job, I'm really trying to talk to people that don't have much to do with music and maybe just enjoy it and have a different thing going on.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Right. That makes sense. I mean, I would have already done a little introduction for you at the beginning of this, but hang on, let me just crack a lovely can of Northern Monk Brewery beer. So, you are a Canadian powerlifter. That is me. That's pretty much how I'd sum it up, yeah. That's what you would sum yourself up if someone was like, what do you do? Let's pretend you're like, let's pretend I'm some rich girl.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I know you're happily married, but I'm, that hypothetical, I'm some rich girl's dad. And you've got to sell yourself. Quite the scenario. Yeah, you've got to sell yourself. I want to be like, so what do you do, son? So yeah, I'm a Canadian powerlifter. Like I compete competitively. A little redundant there, but, and I also coach.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So I put a lot of my time and effort into coaching other athletes as well as creating educational content, which we put out on predominantly YouTube and a little bit of Twitch. But, yeah, an educator, if you will, as well as a coach and an athlete. nice and before I go into more of the educators type stuff what's your what's your accolades what you've done you got some you got some Canadian records you got some shit yeah so I've got a number of Canadian records um both raw and equipped so I compete in powerlifting two different ways one with the use of supportive suits that uh helped me lift a little bit more and one without um so I've done both in a couple of different weight classes uh and have a number of records across those
Starting point is 00:07:30 weight classes as well as one open world record which is kind of the pride and when we're when we're talking about that kind of accolade so you have you have a world record for you yes sir what is the world record is in the equipped deadlift and it was for 388 kilos Jesus 388 kilos what's that in my I didn't care about pounds because I'm a kilos kind of guy but for the poundlessness. Come on, you must. I think it's like 8508.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I want to say. I've done more, like since. So why is that a world record? Let's attach to that number. So in order for it to be a world record. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Okay. So the, yeah, it's in the open category, which means anywhere between 24 and 39. It's in my weight class. So at the time, it would have been under 105 kilos body weight or 231 pounds. And it was the most that anybody had done at a sanctioned meat in front of three different countries' international judges.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So there's pretty rigorous standards. Mad. Because there is like Eddie Hall's done the 500 kilo, hasn't he? But that's obviously a way different weight class, not in a competition, well, not in an official powerlifting competition. Yeah, yeah. and Thor recently did that. I think it was 501 as well.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Oh, what a flex, just adding that. Just had to beat it. Yeah, that's how you do it, man. The previous record, so the one that I broke was 387.5, and I broke it with 388, so half a kilo. I mean, every little helps, my friend. That was like, when I joined Stray, there was like the fastest song was 222.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And on the first record I did, I was like, guys I wrote this song it's 223 BPM I see you get it it's exactly the same thing it's professional one-upsmanship oh yeah you got to do it you got to do it so one of the things that sets you apart from other I would say online coaches people within the fitness YouTube realm
Starting point is 00:09:55 is two things one you're real like you say you're not juicing and I know you're not juicing um yeah which you know most for anyone out there who's watching fitness YouTubers 95% of the time they're on gear they're they're doing I think specifically when we're talking about like not competitive power lifters it's a very it's a real gray area where like might be might not be they're probably not drug tested regularly which I am as a result of competing in a tested federal like a drug-free federal like a drug-free
Starting point is 00:10:29 Federation. I get like I get people showing up at my house. Uh, they can come any night of the week between seven and eight, I think. And, uh, just pop in and be like, hey, give us some of your piss. Really? How we're going to take some blood. Um, it was a lot more frequent before COVID. I haven't been tested post COVID, but it was usually like once every month or two, maybe three months. They'll just turn up like the TV license man. Yeah. And say, yeah. Yeah. Like I, I have to log. So I have to tell them where I sleep every night as a part of being in this registered
Starting point is 00:11:04 drug testing pool. And I have to give them an hour a day where I can guarantee my whereabouts. So if they want to, they can randomly show up and test me. Oh my God. Yeah. Do they test... So it's the same testing protocols as like... So there are some drugs
Starting point is 00:11:20 which are allowed out of competition. Like you can have THC in your system as long as you're not in competition. Yo, bro! which I'm not really like a huge proponent of anyways so it wasn't a wasn't like a hard fought victory for me or anything when that came around um but yeah I think there are like a couple of smaller things uh in terms of like alcohol maybe some moderate stimulants and things like that you can have in your system like a little i think coke is still on the uh still on the like
Starting point is 00:11:55 no tolerance list uh I think that's something that's being changed or is being discussed right now is the use of like recreational drugs for athletes outside of competition i think obviously like one of the things that you know legend has it a lot of these guys in like the 70s and 80s the big uh big guys before any sort of drug testing was a thing uh it was like they just use coke as like a pre-workout i was you're gonna say it was just about to say yeah i mean i imagine obviously disclaimer that if it was made like part of the testing was you were allowed to have that, then that would actually be a performance-enhancing drug. Because if you did a line before doing a deadlift, you are ripping that shit off the floor.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Potentially, I don't really know. I mean, I imagine. It kills your appetite, too, right? So, like, that I think is a downside. You could have shakes, I guess. I don't know. This is all hypothetical any policemen that are watching or listening. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So I've got to ask you one thing just really, really unprofessional. I should have asked you at the start. Am I on headphones with you? Or are you, do you just hang on off that? Yeah. We're good. So the other thing that I think sets you apart from other fitness, powerlifting YouTube's, is on the Calgary Barbell channel, which is your channel, the quality is so high.
Starting point is 00:13:25 like the production quality is insane. When you do the form check Fridays and it's on like, it looks like a retro TV. It's just like watching, it's like watching a TV show. Is that you? Thanks, man. Or is that you've got a guy that you're in it with you?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah, yeah. So that's Dylan. Dylan and I hooked up a long time ago. Just kind of like started lifting together and he was making some YouTube content for himself, but he's like, dude, I'm really good at video and not as good at lifting and you're really good at lifting. Why don't we like work together? And that was the start of, of kind of of Calgary Barbell as we know it. And it kind of all evolved just like, like we started out doing some client spotlights because I was like, oh, we could put these on the website. It'll be good
Starting point is 00:14:15 marketing. And then he was like, well, why don't we try to do in this and that? And the other thing and we did some like vlogs leading into, uh, uh, it competed at the one of the world. championships I competed at in 2016. We did a bunch of like lead up videos too and those actually gained a little bit of traction. So we decided to kind of keep doing it and start putting out basically all the stuff that I wish I had when I first got into lifting like the form check Fridays like I wish I had some kind of reference for you know how to look at my squat or how to try to bench press better like I just I wish I had that stuff so we're we're trying to make it. So does he edit all of it or do you he just films it and you edit it?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Or is it a bit? No, he does. He films it. He edits it. Oh, my God, that's the dream. There's some very limited stuff that I might edit myself. Like, when lockdown first happened, I did some of my own content. Like, I filmed some of my own lifting now because I lift in my basement every so often.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But for the most part, if it's on the channel and it looks really cool and is really well done, you can assume that Dylan filmed it and edited it. So, does that mean, are you at the stage with the YouTube channel where they're there is some money coming in. And do you split that 50-50 or what's the deal there? It's getting there with like ad revenue and stuff. But the biggest thing is it's a real driver for business and coaching. So I have a team of coaches and myself that all coach powerlifting athletes.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And with the YouTube revenues and stuff, we used to split that, but that's really still not like a sufficient, like that does not a lot of money. I think early on, I remember cutting Dylan paychecks of like $200 or whatever. And now he's a part owner of the company. So I think some of all of the profits end up making their way back to him. Because really, the YouTube channel does help drive business to all the other aspects. Fuck, yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So when, so how many subscribers? I think it's pretty important because some people think that when you've got X amount of subscribers on YouTube, you are making bank but you have loads of subscribers and you've pretty much just said it definitely isn't paying the bills yeah i mean like i i have no problem being pretty transparent about it um we have like 81 000 subscribers right now and uh i was just in our dashboard and i think we're pulling in uh like a thousand dollars u s a month on ad revenue split that between two people so it's not nothing it's not nothing but uh fucking everyone thinks because of influence a culture that that means that you're like,
Starting point is 00:16:54 yeah. Guys, I'm getting a pool. Yeah, like we're not, we're not at that, that, like YouTube Rari money just yet.
Starting point is 00:17:01 But it, it do be helping, though, doesn't it? I'm the same with, like, the podcast, I make zero money, but because of that,
Starting point is 00:17:08 people then hopefully buy the T-shirts from the podcast and, et cetera. Yeah. So what I want to get into, I want to do two things to make this maximally
Starting point is 00:17:19 enjoyable for the listeners and for me, the real, thing is me. I don't care about these people who are listening. I think that's like a, that's a sign of integrity, though. I feel like that's when people like it the most is when they can tell you're having a good time and you're doing what you want to do, right? I fucking hope so, because that's how I live my life as a hedonist. Right. So, I recently gone back to the gym last week. The gym's finally opened. Yeah. And not only do I fucking hate it, I have no drive. My diet,
Starting point is 00:17:53 is off. I'm not following a plan. This is the thing. I loved the gym before lockdown happened and to be honest, I loved music before lockdown happened and then this whole thing has made me fall out of love
Starting point is 00:18:14 with stuff, which obviously I can turn around. The music one's harder to do because I don't know when gigs are coming back, but the gyms are open. Help me fall back in love with the gym without me doing a cycle because that's my two options. My two options are I figure things out and I do a nice plan that I can stay on track.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I get my calories in. I figure out do I want a level of between strength and aesthetic? Well, everyone does. But yeah. Or my other option is I just carry on just doing what I'm doing and inject myself with performance and arms in trust, which is the one that. I don't want to do. So save me from a exploding heart. So I think you touched on some really big things and really common things right now that,
Starting point is 00:19:09 like even I am not invulnerable to. So I definitely, I went through like I had a really good training cycle just in my basement. And then I had a really bad training cycle. And because training wasn't going super well, there was like a month where I missed probably more sessions than I have in the last eight years. And just like I didn't want to go. I wasn't tracking my food. I wasn't eating enough. And like it sucks.
Starting point is 00:19:35 There's no, there's no like two ways about that. It's just tough to try to motivate yourself. And it, you know, I used to drive and I'm now back to now that the gym's open, driving like half an hour either way to go to the gym. But I had a hard time walking down three flights of stairs to go lift during the,
Starting point is 00:19:53 the quarantine. Um, and I think part of it is just like you just kind of have to reform those habits. And it might suck and it might like be really hard to get into the swing of things again. But if you can try to safeguard yourself and set yourself up such that there's more likelihood of you being able to accomplish what you set yourself to. So I mean, number one, don't expect the world when you go back. Um, you know, like don't, don't expect you're going to go back in there and just like be. throwing around the weights you used to or that you're going to look the same or whatever sort of your fitness goals might be. But I think, you know, going in, starting off with like two or three days a week can be a good way to do it just to kind of get your foot in the door, get back to doing it.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And sort of you kind of have to experience those things that made you fall in love with it in the first place again. And one of those is going to be progress. So if you can set yourself up in a way that you can just get there, you're going to start making progress again. And you'll probably be back to where you were inside of three months would be my professional conjecture. There's no way. Let me tell you where I was before, pre, and let me tell you where I am now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:09 So disregarding the fact that I look like some sort of man made out of marshmallow right now, where I was, at my best, I was 76 kilos ripped. with abs. And at that point, I was deadlifting 190 kilos. I just assumed kilos, yeah. Benching. Then when I was that, when I was like ripped, I was only benching like 100 maybe for three.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And I think I was talking to you at the time. And yeah, squatting, I think I would squat 140 for five, like three sets of five. And then when I decided that. abs weren't for me because I say decided when I went on tour and the abs disappeared. I managed to get my squat. So this is pre-lockdown. I managed to get my squat. So this is pre-lockdown and pre-first tour before lockdown.
Starting point is 00:22:10 So this is like end of last year. I managed to get my squat to one. I got a solid 160 and I failed a 170, but I would have done it if I hadn't have done the 160. It was like hairline failed it. Right, yeah. Deadlifted 200 and benched 125. Then lockdown happened.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And all this happened. I went on tour. I had, you know, minor mental meltdown anyway. Then lockdown happened. I went back to the gym last week. I did three sets of 10 on 60 kilos squats. Because my form was still there. because I was still doing air squats and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I had no way to train in the last six weeks. I had doms no shit for eight days. Yeah. Which was fucking... I mean, that's how she goes, right? Man, it was, if anyone doesn't know, if anyone, there's going to be a lot of people that don't know what things are. Dom's is delayed onset muscle soreness.
Starting point is 00:23:11 The soreness that happens after you go to the gym. I had it usually subsides maybe three or four days on a bad one. I had it for eight days. I benched 80 for eight. um three sets of eight uh and then today i barely got five out of 80 because i haven't been eating and yeah what did i deadlift i deadlifted 120 for three sets of six um so i'm really far backward i think the thing is you just kind of got to treat yourself like a beginner for the first week couple weeks again like you got to be like okay you know add in a protein show
Starting point is 00:23:52 every other day or once or twice a day or whatever to help nudge you back towards those habits that helped get you to those good places. And you might have to like kick your ass in the morning to get yourself to the gym or tell your partner to like throw you out the door or whatever it might be, you know, set an alarm on your phone. But basically within a few weeks, if you can start getting some of those habits rolling, you're going to be like, oh yeah, now I remember why I like this so much and it will get easier to get back into that habit. But yeah, the first little bit is super daunting and pretty shitty. There's no two ways about it.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Here's my problem with the whole thing from someone and people, this will probably resonate with people who, I would say 99% of the people that listen to this podcast are just musicians maybe have a fleeting interest in fitness but don't know where to start or whatever. the mentally the problem I have right now which I have never had before is thus where before when I was really strong
Starting point is 00:24:56 I was a little bit fat I was okay with being a little bit like out of my comfort zone body shape wise because the numbers were going up and they were impressive numbers and I was like this is I'm sure you fucking resonate with this I've seen your documentary
Starting point is 00:25:13 yeah this you've thoughts see my current physique. So, so when I was like, oh, I don't have abs. It's fine. I benched 125 kilos the other day,
Starting point is 00:25:22 blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, I was fine doing those two things. And then I would sometimes, I'm going to, you know what,
Starting point is 00:25:27 I want to, I want to cut a little bit. And I would be okay when I was doing the cut, because my numbers were still relatively good. And my body looked good. And then I would think, so this is fine. I have abs. I'm a little bit weaker. But now, right now, I am very weak and I'm very out of shape.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And I don't, I want both things to go up at the same time. I want to look better and I want to lift more. And that's not possible. Sure it is. Especially if you're coming from a place where you're no, no, no. You're coming from a place where you're, you're pretty detrained. But you were in a place at one point in the recent, like relative really recent. history where you're going to be able to rebuild a lot of those things quite quickly. Like I said, three months. I've worked with probably between 40 and 60 people coming back from the lockout throughout the company and throughout my coaching and my coach's coaching.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And most people are back to, if not past previous numbers, inside of three months. So even just from a numbers standpoint, like you can get those lifts back. And then once you're strong, you can do whatever you want. If you want to cut weight, you're going to maintain muscle really well because you're strong and you can lift heavy. And it's just a matter of getting to that point. You think get strong first and then cut, not cut, and then get strong? Sure.
Starting point is 00:26:58 You could do it either way. You could probably cut while you got strong at this point because you're detrained. Okay, right. Change a track. Help me do this. How much does someone pay? and you also get an ad out of it. So how much does someone pay?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Sure. Sure. To do this for you to do exactly what you're about to do for me. How much do I have to pay? So generally speaking, a month of coaching with Calgary Barbell, right now anyways, is $205 a month, Canadian. Canadian. So it's like $40 in any other currency.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And that gets you what? What does someone get for that? What do I get for that? because I'll tell you what, I'm going to do it. Okay. So more or less, we would have like an intake conversation, kind of like you and I are having right now. We talk about sort of what your goals are, where you want to get to.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Most of my clientele, I will put this sort of caveat out there. It is like a focused on competing in powerlifting, right? So they're going to compete at competitions semi-regularly and or their biggest focus is the numbers. Strengths. Yeah, yeah. getting their squat bench and deadlift higher so the sort of nutritional aspect of it is somewhat limited it's more like uh almost like a consultation or like nudges in the right direction helping make
Starting point is 00:28:21 good habits and less so like you need to eat this food and this much of it and that kind of stuff is not really what i do anyways um but most of it is is done through a spreadsheet and weekly video check-ins so we would do uh we would lay out your programming uh it's a it's a really cool sheet that'll kind of spit out your numbers based on your inputs. I don't know if you're familiar with like RPE and stuff. And I'm also not sure how into the weeds you want to go with powerlifting programming. But anyways, we give you a spreadsheet. It tells you what to do. You fill it in as you go through. And then at the end of the week, you send me a video of your lifting. And then I basically do like a form check Friday for anybody who's seen our videos and put my head in the corner and then
Starting point is 00:29:01 kind of like draw on it on the screen and talk about technique and address any questions. And questions you might have about the progress and then we adjust the program as we go so that you get strong. So does that mean a beginner could come to you? Or would you advise a beginner yeah, yeah, definitely somewhere else? Honestly, I think I think most beginners could probably get pretty damn strong just using free programs on the internet and resources like our YouTube channel where you can look at people getting their lifts critiqued and apply that to your own lifts because honestly 90, 95% of the people who are just starting out make the same mistakes with technique. So it's pretty easy to just generalize and be like, oh, I see this looks a lot like
Starting point is 00:29:41 my squat. What does he say about this one? And yeah, I think, I think there's a site called like lifting vault or lift vault or something where they just have a ton, a ton of free power lifting programs. Is that the place where it's not supposed to be the free ones, but they've just put them up there, ones that people have paid. I think there, there may be some like gray area there. I'm not sure, but I do know like a number of our programs are on there. I'm a commentist, my friend. It's fine. I'm all for it steal all the information and put it out there
Starting point is 00:30:07 I actually ran one of your programs before I ran the 16 week I think that's how we became friends on the internet was because I ran it on tour because at home I was doing like bodybuilding and what I would find over the course of years of touring
Starting point is 00:30:26 is I would get reasonably strong and reasonably in shape on tour sorry, at home, then I would go on tour and I would pretty much shred because I was just doing bodybuilding workouts plus playing the drums every night
Starting point is 00:30:45 and I would just, I would lose strength and muscle mass from just being definitely in a calorie deficit. So I tried to just, I was like, you know what, I'm just going to try and stay strong when I'm on tour and I did your 16 week program, which is free, I believe. Yeah. And I think I tagged you in a couple of things on it
Starting point is 00:31:02 because I went through the progress, the process on my Instagram. And honestly, I got super strong on that tour and I did actually lose quite a lot weight despite getting quite strong. But... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I don't have the fucking fire in my belly right now because I'm not hitting the fucking same numbers. How do I get the fire? Yeah, I mean, that's... You just have to go and hit really sub-optimal numbers and swallow your pride for like two, three weeks. until you can get back into the swing of it. And that's, I mean, honestly, I go through the same thing every time I start a new block
Starting point is 00:31:38 of training because I come in and my, you know, I'm old and washed up and beat up and part of my, just half my body's broken most of the time from doing this to myself for 10 years competitively. But I go in and I, you know, the first like three weeks, I'm lifting as much as the guy's three weight classes below me. But, you know, it's, it's kind of a necessary evil to kind of just take things at the pace that you can and do what's there so that you can get back to, you know, doing what you used to be able to do. Unfortunately, there's really no sexy answer.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It's just you just have to suck it up and do it for a while. I'm not expecting you to go, well, hang on, you actually just need to be taking this brand of BCAAs, and it actually gives you, it gives you like a real boost mentally. Superpowers, yeah. I think my big thing, which I struggle with, like I said about being slightly out of shape and strong or being in shape and not strong, is coming back right now, not being strong and not being in shape. So today I didn't hit any of the numbers I wanted to hit in the gym. And I mean, this is me, like, this is probably me announcing on the internet that I have some kind of eating disorder.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But because I didn't do any work in the gym today in my head, I have not eaten today. Right, right. Because I think, well, I don't deserve that because I'm not going, it's not going to any muscle because I haven't beaten any personal records. But it is, though, like didn't you, didn't you get sore from your last workout for eight days? I mean, soreness, obviously, soreness doesn't equate to whatever. But in a lot of ways, people can equate soreness to like a feeling of accomplishment at the very least. and like maybe you can drive that or use that to kind of drive your habits but also the
Starting point is 00:33:31 flip side is like if you don't eat you're not going to be able to do even more than you did last time next time yeah that's that's what's definitely going to happen um yeah so are you a big proponent for people getting there diet wise doing what calories like a if it fits your macros vibe or yeah more of more of like in if it fits your macros vibe um um i I use, I use like an app called My Fitness Pal. That's what I used to do. I used to be like you, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I used to be like you. I've been using that for like eight years on and off. And I do. Like I have to take breaks from doing that because it just feels neurotic and like unsustainable sometimes when you're just like, man, I just don't want to worry about that shit. And I don't recommend that everybody get into like, okay, let's get, let's go balls deep on like trying to track everything we eat. But like general recommendations just put. yourself in the right direct like okay uh like right now try to eat three meals a day and have a
Starting point is 00:34:32 protein shake or two every day once you get that down then take the next step but if you're just like okay i have this calorie goal i need to get this many grams of carbs this many grams of protein and you don't have any like decent habits built up to sort of lead into that next step you're probably going to fail and it's probably going to feel pretty shitty so if you can just do a couple of things that seeming, you know, like pick that low-hanging fruit first and foremost, I think that's going to be the real kicker. Yeah, you touched on being old there for a second. How old are you? 32. Be 33 in October. And it do be getting harder. Just life in general. Yeah, yeah. Like you've, you've, so here's another thing, you've overcome,
Starting point is 00:35:22 Two fairly serious injuries, if I remember correctly, hip and shoulder. Shoulders have been on and off and whatever. Like there's a state of kind of perpetual injury, but the hip's probably my biggest thing. So I've also got a hip and a shoulder problem, but probably from drums as well. But where are you at with your hip injury currently? I mean, like I said, when I start a block of training, I can't really do much. I can't really go very heavy and it sucks and I have to swallow my pride and my ego for a while. But once I've been training for a bit, once I've you know been squatting twice a week for three weeks,
Starting point is 00:36:07 then I start feeling really good again and I don't wake up sore and I don't wake up in pain and I can sleep on my side without just like being crippled the next day. So like, you know, there's that. Is it the side that fucks your shoulder up sleeping on your side? Sometimes. Yeah. makes it feel pretty crappy in the morning. I'm sure that's what's done mine. And my shoulder is completely fucked still. And it's just fucking...
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's the strangest thing. It like... I mean, it's fine. I can play the drums. It's probably quite similar to you in that it hurts, but I just get on with it. But... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And I think sometimes, like, the motion is the lotion. If you know what I'm saying. Like, the lifting and the strengthening it is often the best thing you can do to make things that hurt, stop hurting. Exactly. I'm a massive proponent of that. When people like, oh, I tweak my back and then they stay in bed for two days. It's the worst thing you can do. The blood is not moving. You're not getting fucking, you're not getting whatever badness happened out of there. It's just sitting there. I mean, I'm not a doctor. People don't take that advice. Oh, you hurt you back. Dead lift 250 kilos with no training whatsoever. Load it up. But no, I think like a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:37:22 you know, especially if you can get some quality guidance on your individual scenario. But getting stronger will reduce the likelihood of you getting injured, right? And if you're in chronic pain a lot of the times. Because my shoulder hurts the bench. And the weird thing is, it's a very weird thing about it. It hurts on all the warm upsets. And then my heaviest set, I don't know if maybe it's because the heavy weight pins my shoulders back into the position.
Starting point is 00:37:51 they fucking should be in the first place. But the heavy weight doesn't hurt. Yeah, I've gone through periods of time where that seems to be the case too. I mean, what I would do is I would probably just mess around with your technique and see if you can get like the empty bar to feel good.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And just kind of start there and then work your way up, right? And just slowly, gradually work your way up. See if there's, like if you could do a partial range of motion or a wider grip or a narrower grip or a bench with dumbbells or whatever. or find some way to like move the shoulder that doesn't hurt and just use that as a starting point. Because then then you have something you can actively do and progress in. And then you can start investigating like, oh, what if I go back out to me?
Starting point is 00:38:33 You know, it's been two weeks since my shoulder hurt. What if I go back out to my normal bench grip? Or, you know, what if I switch back to, you know, using overhead press. It used to hurt, but my shoulder hasn't hurt in two weeks. So let's try this out. And a lot of times you can kind of create a good solid progression that way. I had this very same problem with my left shoulder, which I now have my right shoulder, and I think it was just overuse of the shoulder.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But I went to a sports masseuse, and she fucked my rear, like the whole suprespranatus, rotator cuff rhomboyed area. She fucked my shit up. And it was so painful for our. whole hour of just getting mashed and then it disappeared and it's never been an issue with my left shoulder ever again and then now our government is so fucking dumb that they're like okay you can go to the gym you can go to shops you can do this do that but you cannot under any circumstance have a massage because it's too close to close so I can't even get
Starting point is 00:39:43 I can't even get my masseuse I'm getting a masseuse yeah that's a bummer soos yeah that's a bummer who's. That's a bummer. Have you had massage for your stuff? Is that something that's you doing Cairo massage? So when I went through that whole hip injury thing and trying to figure out what worked and what didn't
Starting point is 00:40:00 and how to make it stop friggin' hurting all the time, I did literally everything under the sun and had very limited success with all of it. If you look at the research, a lot of the benefits that people get from massages, can be more likely attributed to the fact that they just like chilled out for an hour and didn't do anything and allowed their body the sort of natural recovery time than to any sort of like tissue manipulation and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Like there isn't a whole lot of science to back that up. And if I have clients who are like, I got this massage and it helped so much, then I'm going to say like, well, keep doing that because it worked for you. Like, that's fine. if you have the income to spend on that when people like find religion and they're like you know it really helped me out of that dark place and in my head i'm like keep doing it then yeah i think that's that's probably a really good analogy um because in a lot of these cases like placebo is a hell of a drug man uh so like if if you know whatever weird ass banded exercise hip raise
Starting point is 00:41:11 glute thrust thing you did seem to help then like good on you i'm not going to say that didn't work you know because then it was just planting the uh the opposite seat of doubt like oh maybe my hip still does hurt you know like that kind of stuff is super not helpful so um yeah i don't do a lot of that stuff myself i don't invest in that stuff myself because i haven't found use anecdotally and the evidence would suggest that a lot of it isn't uh super backed up but if somebody's like oh i did this thing and it works so well then by all means do it because for whatever reason it works for you and it or did in the past like go down that road if it makes you feel better. I like the conspiracy aspect. You've just started a conspiracy for me
Starting point is 00:41:54 in my head. Oh, okay. I'm just, do I want to hear more about this? No, just like the chilled out thing because I don't chill out ever. Never. I mean, I've started doing meditation, but you're saying that all this money that I give to massage therapists and chiros and all this shit is bullshit. And really, I should use my brain and I should just squat more. So, I mean, that's, that's probably part of it. But it also might be that you should do less, right? I'm another thing that we've very less. I am.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Yeah. So at this point, it's probably that you need to do more. But previously, I think we had some conversations where you said that you basically just go into the gym and mash yourself until you can't do anything more. Yes. And, and like, if you don't go to all. absolute failure or past failure on everything. You don't feel like you worked hard and etc. And I think in those scenarios, like maybe just doing less is is the key there.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And in this case, maybe doing more, but I want to do. But there's like, but because I feel like I would get the same results, but doing less, this is the whole look, we've come full circle. This is the whole mentality that I have. Doing less makes me feel like I don't deserve to eat. and that is outside of my scope of practice okay so i need okay just change that because i do like eating i need less with a plan that's what i need i think i need three days yeah i think that's the big thing and then a professional man to tell me how to do it let's let's figure that out that's i'm not going to make you figure it out right now but what okay if you were to figure it out right now
Starting point is 00:43:40 right what would you suggest for someone I wants to go to the gym three days a week and they just want to look fucking sick and be fucking sick sure you know I'll basically give you what I did for like a year and it worked great yes and basically I just took you know the squat the bench press and the deadlift and I broke them up and looking back I wish I would have probably benched twice a week but so if you take your first day and you do some squat you do some squat and then you do like two to three, maybe four other leg exercises of basically whatever you want. Whether it's a leg press or leg curls or whatever, just do some like bodybuilding leg stuff, but limit it to like three or four exercises, maybe do some abs and then go home.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And then your other day, you go in in bench press and then do some like upper body bodybuilding stuff. And I think for like most beginners, if you just sort of theme your day around a main movement, it's probably going to work pretty damn well. like you're knocking out sort of the big high priority what's the word I'm looking for compound movement you're using a lot of muscle to do these bigger movements you can load them and progress on them for quite some time
Starting point is 00:44:52 and then you do a little bit of accessory work to help you know build some shoulders and biceps and whatever else and then on your last day you do some deadlifts and maybe you bench again or you do some overhead press and then you do some back work and some hamstring work. Okay. So this is, this hypothetically,
Starting point is 00:45:11 Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Sure. Yeah. Squat and some accessories. Wednesday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Bench. And then all the fun stuff that I do every workout. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So do you do any back on that bench day or just like shoulder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah. Definitely. I used to do. You can train your back a lot. You can. So here. Here's a distinction you can make. So on the bench day, do like a horizontal row.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And on the deadlift day, do a vertical row. You know what? I can even write something out really quick for you after this and send it to you. And you can like put it in the show notes or something. If people want like a free like basic get back into it kind of thing. I'm down to do that. It'll take me 10 minutes. I'll put it on the downbeat link tree.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So anyone that listens to this, you go to the downbeat Instagram and then click the link in the bio and it will be there. And we can call it the downbeat plan. Oh, this is sick. Yeah, there you go. And then, okay, so then the Friday you did the deadlift. What the fuck is a vertical row? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:46:21 So like a lap pull down or a chin up or something like that. Or like a vertical plane of movement relative to your torso. Right, that's one thing during lockdown. I did 22 pull-ups in a row. Nice. Because I was showing off. I definitely couldn't do that right now with how much I wait. That's like a little I train pull-ups.
Starting point is 00:46:39 My back has stayed wide because I did pull-ups every single fucking day. Well, there you go. So, like, leads with that, man. I don't know if that's something that makes you feel good. Like, make that the first thing you do at the gym. So you can go in and be like, hell yeah, check this shit out. Okay. And then do your pull-ups.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I think you're getting, you're getting me. You get more juices flowing here, Bryce. You're getting my juices flowing. Nice. Because I came back in thinking to do three days. days a week I had to do full body three days a week and that's what I did for the last two weeks and it destroyed no you can what is the point bro split it up if I feel like shit but I look like shit as well and these workouts are fucking killing me so I would love to split it up
Starting point is 00:47:25 a little bit more yeah I think I think like if you're going to look like shit and you're going to feel like shit like the the training might as well be fun right exactly exactly I think that's that's something that people dive into too they're like oh i got to like do all of the work and all the most optimal stuff and i think even outside of the context of quarantine and lockdown people get trapped in that and they're like well what's optimal what's optimal and it's like anything you enjoy that keeps you moving and go into the gym or being active in any way shape or form like that's optimal whatever you can stick to is optimal so would you so would you not go nuts on bench accessories and then maybe to put an extra bit of benching on the deadlift day.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah, I'd probably do something like that. I think for most people, especially like me, I grew up playing soccer or football, as you would call it in the UK. As it's called the real name, football, carry on. Right, right. Yes, the proper name. But like I didn't play American football.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I didn't like bench press as part of anything. So when I got into powerlifting or lifting weights, my upper body was severely uncreely uncons. coordinated and in my opinion bench has a bigger learning curve so i think for most people practicing that skill more often uh it can be really useful so yeah and people love benching like why not bench i love benching it's my favorite thing and being good at it is my favorite thing but i'm so bad at it at the moment when i got 120 well i think i got 120 for a double and i was 80 kilos body weight i was like this is 40 kilos more than i wait for a double this is
Starting point is 00:49:02 fucking tick. There you go, man. So I mean, like, that's injured. Go just going in bench. Skinny. Just everything. The old injured skinny fat state. Skinny fat is so, like, obviously I'm not body shaming.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Anyone who's listening. I, like the state of feeling fat, but actually being skinny is something that only people that go to the gym and specifically. I think either do like cutting for bodybuilding because I feel like you feel fat-skinned them when you're all depleted with no carbs or power lifting when you have a day where you're not strong because when you have a day where you're strong you're like fuck yeah I'm jacked we have a day where you're not strong you're like I'm actually kind of fat and yeah that sounds like my usual back and forth yeah I mean that's it's something that we have to live with yeah we just
Starting point is 00:50:02 develop our own different kind of body dysmorphia and image issues. My body dysmorphia is absolutely fucking crazy, which leads me to my next thing. We're going to leave the powerlifting bullshit. You're going to make this nice, sick downbeat plan. I'm going to do it. And I'll tell you what, I'm going to take before and after photos, set a timer on it and give me a calorie goal. I'm going to do the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And this, I'll tell you what, and we'll make this episode quite short and we'll do a follow-up afterwards. That's what we're going to fucking do. That's a great. idea. Okay, I'm into it. Body dysmorphia leads me into the next thing. I just want to talk about it because I love talking about it. You got loads of fucking cool tattoos. I do have a lot of tattoos. Yeah. You got anything lately? The last piece I got was I got my hand done in Austria when I was there. I think I remember seeing that. I think I sent you a message like, yes, the hand. Yeah. It's a fucking
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, I was pretty happy about that. I don't care what anyone says. I don't care. I tell you what, anyone listening, saying like getting inked is not cool, but I will hold my hands up and say getting your hands tattooed is fucking cool, and it makes anyone look cooler immediately. As long as it's good,
Starting point is 00:51:20 I think you immediately look sick as fuck. Yeah, yeah. Once I got my hand done, I started thinking of what I can do on my other hand and then what I can do on my neck can how I can put like some tattoos under my fade on my skull. I did exactly the same thing. And I'm almost, I'm almost, I've almost done all of them.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I've done, I've got the neck. My neck's completely done other than I got a little bit of, I basically, I was like you. I bet you are the same as me. Like I'm, I worried about not doing something cool or like that I could have tattoos as a job. Right. And then. and I worried a bit about my mum.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Yeah, I definitely talked to my mom about it for sure. And then I just waited until I was like 30. And I was like, there's no fucking way that now I'm going to suddenly go, but I mean, I didn't know about COVID. But there's no way I'm going to go back and have like a, I'm not going to go work in a bank now. It's not fucking happening. Boom.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I get my hands done. Yeah. And then I got, I think I've got hand and neck done within like, I think a year and a half it was all done. Hands, neck, fingers. Hands neck, fingers, face.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Don't have anything on my fucking skull yet. Yeah. But that was my mom's one stipulation was nothing on my face. So I can do it on my skull, but not on my face. Yeah, but I bet she said no to your fucking, I mean, skull's better anyway.
Starting point is 00:52:53 No, no. So, I, uh, like, when I, when I turned 18, I got a, I did a body piercing apprenticeship and spent like four years working in tattoo shops and piercing people for a living. Uh, so my parents are like somewhat desensitized to the whole like, whoa, whoa, my tattooed son kind of thing. So when I said that I was getting my
Starting point is 00:53:14 hand tattooed, she's like, okay, but nothing on your face, right? And I was like, yes, mom, nothing on my face. That's cute. I think my mom, this is how I did it. I just got, I mean, obviously I had long moved out by this point but I got one hand done and then my mom like messaged me I think on Instagram like oh I notice you got your hands done and I was like oh she thinks I got them both done yes and then I immediately permission yes I booked in literally literally that fucking week and got the oh man that's so good that's so good and I was like it looks sick though didn't they she was like she'll never admit that they look good but when she's drunk
Starting point is 00:53:54 sometimes shilling it. Yeah, but you've got nice tattoos. Yeah, I've gotten that one too. That's no, it's exactly the same. You got your back done? You've got a big fucking back done. Yeah, yeah. So I got a piece by a guy named Shane Ford.
Starting point is 00:54:12 He works unfortunately about four hours away right now. So I'm waiting to get some of that finished up. Four hour drive. We've been working on that for a number of years. Insane pain and then a four hours right back. Yeah, so I've got a brother-in-law kind of out there. Like he and his girlfriend are living in like a yurt just outside of the city, which is pretty cool. I kind of want to go visit and hang out with them and all the dogs that run around on the property.
Starting point is 00:54:39 But yeah, so I don't know. I don't know when I'm going to be able to get back up there, hoping that he comes to my city and does a bit of a guest spot at some point in the near future. But unfortunately, not finished my back yet. how many hours do you think you've had on your back? Mm. I want to say about 20 by this point. I've got a bigish, bigish back. I mean, you got a big fucking back.
Starting point is 00:55:06 How tall are you? Like 510? Oh, I don't know what that is. I'm the same height, but you are exponentially wider than me. Yeah, I weigh about 120 kilos right now. I'm pretty sure I weigh 75 kilos right now. on the same fucking body. Jesus Christ, that is insane.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I always wanted to get my back done. And I've recently moved to Glasgow. And there's a guy up here, Jim Gray tattoo. And he does great Japanese stuff. And he's literally like a 12-minute drive from here. So it's like, fuck it. That's awesome. There's lockdown.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I'm just doing it. So I got it like bloodlined two weeks ago. I got a bunch shaded two days. days ago and it's just like I'm going to try and go every two weeks until it's done. Yeah, I've been seeing, I've been seeing your posts on Instagram. It's looking good, man. Are you got anything on your bum? Yeah, my back goes all the way down to my knees. How? Down your knees? See, I wish I could have done that, but I already had some shit on my
Starting point is 00:56:10 legs. Yeah, I didn't have anything on the backs of my legs. I've got like a peek-chew that my girlfriend tattooed on me, so I can't really, I can't really be covering up peek-chew. And it was, I covered up some, some tattoos on my ass from when I worked in tattoo shops. We'd close down every St. Patty's Day and get drunk and just get stupid Irish tattoos, even though none of us were Irish. It was a really weird thing. And now they're all covered up.
Starting point is 00:56:35 How much just getting with your, getting your fucking ass tattooed hurt? I couldn't believe it. I think it was worse, like right at the base of the spine, like kind of right where your butt cheeks begin to descend in that like flat spot. It feels really bony. I think that was worse than my butt cheeks themselves. I can't remember specifically, but I just remember the minute it went further than bottom of spine.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I was like, okay, I'm gonna fucking die. This is, this is crazy. I'm dying. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird because a lot of times you're like, your perception or your pro preception of where they're tattooing is off by like an inch or two. So I was like, man, this guy's really getting into my cheeks here.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And he wasn't like beyond what you would think should be covered. But I was like, man, this guy is in there. I feel so bad for this guy. I'm sweating a lot right now. But yeah, no, it wasn't. It wasn't actually that in there. When I was getting my neck toad, it felt like I was getting my fucking head towed. It was inside.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And I was like, no, I felt like I was getting my face tattooed. I was like, you know, my face is like, fucking relax. I'm like five inches away from your face. Yeah, yeah. right so we're gonna we're gonna talk very quickly about some music and then we're gonna wrap it up then you're gonna write your fucking program i'm gonna do the program and then we'll follow up again how's that unless you got any i mean i'm gonna plug all your shit at the beginning anyway and i think okay you've i think people are going to be listening they're gonna go check out calgary barbell
Starting point is 00:58:12 on youtube they're going to check out your instagram which is what uh it's just bry underscore CBB. CBB for Calgary Barbell. CBB or Calgary Barbell, yeah. And even your Instagram, you've got like little fucking, and you got Twitch as well,
Starting point is 00:58:29 haven't you? Yeah, yeah, we live stream on Twitch like once a week right now. Do some form checks and stuff. But even your Instagram, you've got like little, you know, stuff comes up and tells the viewer what weight you're doing and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah, that was all pre-made by Dylan. He was like, here, add this to your videos. That shit is so sick. Yeah. Yeah, Dylan's the man. Right, you like metal? I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I'm just fucking, I'm fully aware that I'm quite aggressive as a human being. Okay. I'm trying really hard to be like less. I got told by one of my, like, sponsors once. I didn't want to reply because you're quite aggressive in emails. And I'm like, oh, it's just the way of me. just then I zoned in on myself right shut up you like metal I'm sorry no that's good I like it I like to be direct you like now I want to know two things I want to know have you
Starting point is 00:59:31 got a lifting playlist and where is it and how do people listen to it and if not so I've got a bunch of playlists probably like 15 playlists if you look me up on on Apple music and there's a specific playlist that I made for a competition a while back that another lifter friend of mine ported over to uh Spotify if you look up my name Bryce crotchuk on Spotify so either either way you use or whichever streaming service you use i do have some price that is yeah Bryce Lewis yeah he's also very strong i'll follow him as well he's the two very strong mm-hmm so what's your top five bands ever that's what I want and I should have told you this in advance oh boy yeah um like for lifting
Starting point is 01:00:18 specifically? No, I'll take top five bands ever and if they happen to fuel you in the gym then cool. Okay. I don't have to say
Starting point is 01:00:32 like Kubla Khan is up there. Man, no. Real big one for me? We need to stop and just talk about Kubla Khan for a while. Number one, it's my fucking gym bangers straight up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah, big time, big time. Like self-destruct. The whole. absolute album just the vocal breaks and then Matt saying something just fucking insane where there would be like where you're about to do a
Starting point is 01:01:03 dead lift or something could not get any fucking better the number of heavy bench work that I've done with Ant Pile just on repeat is excessive scan it the Dan and tiquit deca oh man it's so fucking and he just
Starting point is 01:01:20 just literally little gap and he says son of a bitch and it's just yeah oh it's just so tasteful man it's the best i love it i'm so glad that you said that first because i honestly think they might be the best gym banger band oh man yeah it's uh they're they're hard to hard to beat uh i listen to a lot of harm's way uh in the gym as well i feel like i want to like harms way more than i do i really like the latest one because it has yeah the more they do the nine was the one that got me into him. Like the electronic shit, the more I can get involved, the more like on, is it post-human
Starting point is 01:02:00 the last one? Yeah, yeah. The stuff that I know that Will Putney helped to write, like, because of me and Will have very, I mean, I assume, but me and Will have very similar, like, tasting, like, tempos and rhythm changes and stuff like that, and, like, something will happen on post-human. I'm like, that was definitely Will's idea. um yeah i can't i'm not back i don't know that for a fact but i really liked that one and i really liked isolation was that the one that was it was it called isolation the one that starts
Starting point is 01:02:33 was scrambled then then then then anyway rust no oh sorry it's the one before rust i didn't really like rust okay i liked the one i like was isolation and i like post human maybe i'll go back to rust he's a big guy is well and he he's a big fucking yeah oh man Okay, funny story. Before I started listening to them, I was at a show where they played with Black Dalia murder, who's also probably up there for me. And I didn't really know harm's way. I was like kind of listen to their set. It was good. And then I went to the beer garden to get a beer. And I think Black Dalia had finished with a song that a buddy and I had been waiting to see live for a long time. And this is back when I still moshed and wasn't afraid to just hurt myself or somebody else every time I got close to a pit. And I think I had my shirt off and somebody came up and bought me a beer and said nice set and like mistook me for I can't remember the guy's name, but apparently he's a powerlifter too like the- James I can't remember Yeah, he's really strong. Yeah, he's really strong. Yeah, somebody came and bought me a beer and was like yeah, a good set man and I was like I'm pretty sure the singer that band is hardcore
Starting point is 01:03:42 Straight Edge and yeah, I also don't really look other than very much like him be like a just I guess generic big tattooed guy people are fucking idiots like yeah I got a free beer out of it I mean yeah but people get like Tom gets that
Starting point is 01:03:58 anytime someone has a hat and a beard they're like oh nice set this guy just has a hat and a beard that's it other people are allowed have hats and beard okay is black dahlia up there yeah black dally is up there
Starting point is 01:04:12 also end big big fan of end all the fucking all the fucking Putney related things and I haven't listened to the new one. Oh is that? Oh it's good. It's quite good.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I know that we ripped it off before it had even come out because when we finished our last album we were like, how do we end this song? And Will goes, oh, on the end record, we did this thing where Billy just goes nuts on the drums and then we started fading out and it goes like out of time and shit. You could do that. So I did it.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Yeah. And our album came out before theirs came out. So we ripped them off, but it was like allowed by will, but then ours came out first. So I don't know if anyone listens to it. That sounds like the stray ending because we fucking stole it. Well, everybody knows now. Oh, yeah. Everybody knows now. And I probably put like after the burial and make them suffer on there.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I don't know any of the after the burial guys, but the make them suffer guys are so much fun. They are like top jaya. music is really good. Jaya from fucking make them suffer is one of the funniest people I've ever made in my life. We played we did an Australian tour I don't think we
Starting point is 01:05:29 did a US US and Canada tour with architects as a and make them suffer and then we did just Australia like afterwards and Jaya dressed up like a little
Starting point is 01:05:46 like a butler almost and met us at the airport with a sign that's a sign that said Craig and I was so jet lagged that I didn't even realize him at the time and I completely fucking blew the joke because everyone else was laughing and I was like jet lag and I just wanted to get out of the airport and then I was like oh shit that's my fucking name and then I got fucking strip search pretty much Brisbane fucking airport because of the tattoos everyone always thinks I have drugs because of the drugs Everyone always thinks I have drugs.
Starting point is 01:06:21 So annoying. It's crazy how those things go hand and hang. I think we're going to leave it there, man. There's probably one more album, one more album, I have to mention by a band called Wake. They're from Calgary. And they just put an album called Devouring Ruin. And it is probably one of my favorite albums so far this year.
Starting point is 01:06:41 What kind of shit is it? Front to back. It's listed here as death metal black. metal, which I think is a pretty solid descriptor. But yeah, man, absolutely unbelievable. Devouring ruin. Yeah. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Man, so good. They got a shout out there and we got a lot of thirsty metal listeners on this podcast. So hopefully the fitness stuff didn't fucking scare them off and they're still here. Just make everybody stop listening. No, I think so. I think you've been awfully entertaining.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I hope so. And you have. It's been a fucking pleasure. And when this fucking world opens up, because we are known to play Calgary, can I please come to your gym? Can we please hang out? Yes. Can I please come to your show? I would love that.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I would love you to come to go. I work on not being quite so fat or skinny or weak by that point. Although it's Calgary. That's always the last fucking date of tour, so I will be all of those things, including week. but right but that's okay i think honestly i was i was supposed to train with someone else from your gym last time we were in calgary yeah yeah yeah yeah i fucked my wrist two nights before because it was really cold obviously because it was canada in the fucking winter um and yeah i got like a weird rs i electric shock thing during a fucking set and my wrist was fucked for the rest of the tour and i had to bow
Starting point is 01:08:15 on it and it was really really annoying. Yeah, I remember, I remember my, he was a good buddy of mine at the time. And he had said, he'd mentioned that you were going to come. So I think we all were, we're hoping that you guys were, it was you and somebody else that were supposed to come left, but it would have been Tom our guitarist, but yeah, I was. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, I still wanted to go, but the rest of my band told me, if you fucking go and you, then you moan about your, moan about your hands.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I get so much trouble on tour when I'm like tired and beat up and then I go to the gym and then everyone's like, have you played like shit tonight because you've gone to the gym? I'm like, listen, the motion is the lotion. It just makes you better. It just makes you better. It just makes you better. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:02 There's nothing like squatting to warm you up to play the drums. It's fucking crazy. The next day, absolute dog shit. But on the day, on the day of the squat, I'm ripping. There you go. Right. I'm going to go. You love to see you.
Starting point is 01:09:17 I'm going to make fish tacos. I appreciate you so much. Send me your file. Yeah. I'm going to send you a little program here pretty quick here. I'll put it on the downbeat link tree, guys. So you go to the Downbeat Instagram. Check out Calgary Barbell on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Check out Bryce's own channels, which I'll have tagged. Beautiful. Cool. Thanks, me. Cool, man. Thanks for chatting. Thank you.

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