The Downbeat - ELECTRIC CALLBOY | GENRE HOPPING EUROS TALK TANZNEID

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

My guests on the podcast this week are Nico and Kevin of Electric Callboy. We caught up at Sonic Temple to talk about the fever-dream genre mash up that is Electric Callboy, as well as the upcoming album Tanzneid, and their latest collaboration with Dexter Holland of the Offspring: ‘Let The Good Times Roll’.

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This has been a long time coming. Maybe not for you guys, but I've been desperate. I can tell you, I can tell you, I don't know if you remember, but we wrote it on Instagram like two years ago or something talking about your podcast. And I was like, yeah, let's do it. And it never fit, you know? It was always we were there, you were here.

And like music-wise, it never fit. But now we're here. And actually, like, to give you a compliment right in the beginning, it's actually a podcast that I always like to watch and to listen to it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Welcome. So, thank you, thank you for having us. You are a heavily requested band.

First of, introduce yourselves. Oh, yeah. It's, my name is, uh, say it. Say it. You got a new name. Say it. Yeah, we got some, some, now. Do it.

I don't even remember my name. Do it. Do it. His name is Keff the Flex. Keff the Flex. Yeah, and I think the name, the name, he was up. He was giving me as, as Nikki Jay. Nikki Jay and Kev the Flex.

No, and A.k.a. Kevin and Nico from Electric Cowboy. Welcome to the Downing Podcast. Thank you. Thanks for everyone, Greg. You look fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This is... Talk me through what you're wearing. Who are you wearing? It's like a Louis, Louis sweater and like the white pants, giving space for everything that's underneath. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I actually don't know what brand it is, but I had to sell my house to buy it. All right. It does look quite bougie stuff. Yeah, it's like we're trying to not be too, like, striking present on this festival, because everybody's, like, black, you know. They're doing the opposite.

Yeah. Nobody was watching us. But, you know, like, after some time, you're getting used to the spotlight. You know, it's never easy, but, you got to handle it some way or the other. You know, it's obviously, you've got, like, a Backstreet Boys vibe going on right now, like a 90s thing. You mean, yeah. Which I don't know, I don't know.

And I don't know enough. Like, that's in right now. I don't know if you're doing this as a joke. And that's the point, man. That's a point. So do you, do you, you're diving straight, straight into it. Oh, come on. Let's be honest.

Let's be honest. No, yeah, we can be honest. Of course, we decided to wear that look for a reason. Because on the one side, we love it. Yeah. But on the other side, it has a purpose, you know? Yeah, sure. But that's exactly our problem.

We wanted to look ridiculous, actually. And you actually just look great. And right now, everybody is like, like, like, Like dressing up as one of the backstreet boards. Yeah, but still not good enough, but still not good enough to have people say, oh, they look great. It's more like, oh, they look good enough and they probably mean it, but they still look a little bit ridiculous.

Yeah, and wait too off for that. Yeah. No, I think you're pulling it off, but it's not the desired effect. You want it to look ridiculous. Instead, you just look cool. Yeah. We can help ourselves always happening like that. What do you dress like when you're at home?

I'm wearing nothing. Yeah, to be honest, to be honest, like, we're talking about like two different sides of our lives, you know? Like we became daddies, both of us, two times daddies. And there are other things to take care of instead of fashion. We love fashion in any way. But it's our tour life that gives us the opportunities to live that life, you know? At home, honestly, at home, I'm just like trying to feel like,

as comfortable as possible. So it's just like a short pants and some shirt that I... And you know what? I have some big, what's it called? Like legs, my legs are pretty massive. So the thing is, I'm a little bit dependent on trends, you know? And when the pants were very tight, I had hard time, you know? You pulled it off.

Yeah, he needed some help from time to time. But the thing is now that the baggy pants, are back for quite some time. I feel so comfortable at home. I just put on my baggy pants, some cool shirts, and I'm good. Yeah. My problem is the other way around. My legs are so short that I, like, whenever

I'm wearing baggy pants, it looks like my legs are even shorter. But I still like it. Yeah, the problem he has is, like, when he's wearing a sweater that is too long, it looks like he doesn't have upper legs, you know? Just like the upper body and feet. I think I'm probably the same as you.

Yeah. Have you been asked to do any, like, fashion stuff? This is on trend. You haven't been, and I can imagine, where are you, you live in Germany now? Berlin. No, no, it's a western part. You look like. Yeah, Berlin is where all the musicians live, you know?

We're the complete other side of Germany for the reason. I think in Berlin, nobody would recognize that we are dressing up differently. Yeah, that's by me. Or hometown, like, a lot of people would actually notice that there's something really wrong with us. Yeah. Yeah, we're living in Western Germany, and we've never been asked to be part of some fashion thing. But when we talk about fashion... I mean, I can see you on the catwalk.

Yeah, I can. Totally, man. Whatever I'm starting turns out to be professional. I can't help myself. It's so... It's a burden sometimes. But the thing is, when you wear something, you have to own it, you know? Like, it's all about that. And what about all these people's coming up with new trends?

it's how they sell it. They sell it, exactly. So there has to be one that does it for the very first time. And if that person is confident and is making this look... It's all about confidence, I would say. I mean, like, you could wear anything. If you are confident with what you're wearing

and you don't give a shit about what other people think, like, just go for it. At home, I'm always talking to my wife. when she's trying to get ready for work or for some party or whatever, and she's asking me like, oh, can I wear this? And I'm like, you own that look, you know? Like, you have to be comfortable and then it's shining out of you, you know? Like, everybody will like you in whatever you wear.

And I think this is even more important than what you actually wear. And not to say, look at the high fashion brands and like the very trendy brands. I'm thinking about Balenciaga. Come on, it looks like it's trash, to be honest, sometimes. It's silly. It's silly. It's, and people. Those shoes, those layered shoes that are looking like somebody was like just having fun with the scissors.

Oh, those ones, yeah. I mean, Hayato is our reds than higher is smiling. He's like, I'd wear them. I'm watch. I'm such a fucking fan of Blitzjaga's shoes specifically. Like anything, anything from Devnet era, like their last designer, I love him. Yeah, but there's the thing. If you wear it, if you buy them, this piece, like this shoe, you fucking love it.

Exactly. Yeah. And this is what you're representing then. You know what I mean? This is actually, this is what we're talking about. Yeah. You got to own it. Is this the stage set?

Or have you got you? Because you get like costumes changed. No, no, not at all. It's actually just for hanging out, to have a good time with friends, you know. And then on stage. Yeah. How many changes on stage? Oh, yeah.

Last time I saw you. It depends on the length of our set. I think today we're going to play 50 minutes. It's the first time with our new live setup that we have to play this short. So there are going to be like four to five quick changes even in the 50 minutes set. So I don't know how many times we are running off and on stage during the set. Are you changing or do you have crew to change it? No, we're doing it on our own.

Like everything is prepared beforehand. So layered and like in the right direction And from time to time when you I don't know like got stuck to get into your jacket or whatever there's someone that is helping you real quick But exactly we're doing it on our own We have a lovely person to take care of our wardrobe So like because for the current tour

We try to have a bigger production this time for Tanzanite tour And we had some custom made outfits for the very first time All the other times it was just like, oh yeah, let's look on Amazon what looks silly and we took it. And it's not individual made or custom made. So this time it is. And it took a little bit more work.

So we couldn't arrange everything on our own. But yeah, we actually need a person that would like could take care of all those. Yeah. Yeah. We have to like wash it and make sure that everything is like easy to wear and stuff. But talking about the set, it's we're going to find out tonight because like it's a first. time we play with a new production, with the new costumes, set that short. So it's going to be...

And it's always like, we need the quick changes for the certain songs, for some songs, not all. But we don't want the people on a festival where everybody's like full power all the time. We don't want them to wait so long, you know, like the energy to go down. So we're going to figure it out tonight for the very first time. You mentioned production. you guys have insane production. It's crazy. I got a know, and also it feels like a German thing.

If you look at like on stage production, Ramstein, you got you guys, are you spending like all of the money from the festival on the production? We're really honest. Sometimes it feels like this. Let's be honest a little bit. When we started rearranging anything last year, we had really, we had some tough times. Yeah, definitely. like financial wise and time-wise.

And it was actually, it was not like, yeah, let's do it. It was really fucking stressful. And it actually brought us to the edge of losing our minds. Like, I don't know. It was really, it was a tough time. But right now, whenever I see our whole production, like we can't bring our whole production to the US. It's not possible.

At this point. So we're working on that, of course. But in Europe, whenever I saw that full production and standing on stage, it was like, it was fucking worth it. Like every single second and every piece of pain. And you have to know, and you know it for yourself. Like, whenever you have the balance, like, we love that shit. You know, we love to have a good production, but it's also our job.

And we have to earn some money in the end, of course. But you want to prevent a brilliant show to the people. And it's always like this. And when we came up with the idea for the new production, it was like, yeah, let's have all that. And there was even more planned. And we had some, let's say there were some miscalculations with the company that we work with or used to work with. And it was like, oh yeah, let's have all that. And we like ordered everything.

And then in the end it was like, oh, yeah, we have to recalculate a little bit. And it was double the price. It was not just a little bit. Yeah. But we worked it out. Like Nico said, after some sleepless nights, we worked it out. And yeah, it's. Actually, it makes us even prouder of what we achieved, like, when it comes to that live show.

But yeah. And to be honest, we all know it. I talk to some people in the U.S., and it's in Europe the same. Costs are rising at the moment so much in any sector. Fire. Fire is expensive these days. It is crazy. Back in the days when we were much smaller as a band, come on, there were people, oh, I have this uncle and he's welding something for you for free or give us a fifth.

or give us a 50 bucks and you're good. Oh, you need a light guy? I can do it. Yeah. And from certain level on, it was like, oh, you're that band. Okay, let me put out my cuck. Yeah. And then it goes, boom.

You pay the big prices. I get out all the time if I try, if I'm looking for, like, someone to work on my kitchen or my bathroom. And I'll, like, put it out, even on, like, a close friend's story on Instagram, like, because I want a recommendation. And I'll go, does anyone know, you know, someone to do my bathroom? and then, oh, this is the guy. And then I get a DM from the guy. And then they see the blue checkmark.

Oh, fuck. And then I get the cost. Oh, let me just readjust a little bit. And it's fucking crazy. I'm like, I'm not rich. I'm rich in social media. You can actually, like right now, it's not even a sign of, like you said, like of being super famous.

You can actually have a fucking flu. You can buy it. Yeah. It's weird world we live in. But, yeah, you're absolutely right. about that. Okay. I got a question that's

kind of offensive. Okay. But it's, I mean it in the nicest possible. Well, of course, we're used to that, man.

German people. Mm-hmm. You know them. You know German people. We know a lot of... Notorious, like the stereotype is not having a sense of humor.

Yeah. But you have maybe the biggest sense of humor in music. Thank you. But we actually need to talk about this. Like, we know that stereotype

of like, Germans, that they don't have any sense of humor and stuff like this. When I'm looking around at like all the people like in my surroundings, like all my friends, my family, stuff like that, I couldn't, I mean, there are some black sheep's. But in general, we actually all have the same kind sense of humor. Like, I couldn't tell that there's anybody that is like that typical German. Stereotypes are coming from somewhere. Yeah, sure, sure.

And we do have those. I was to say this is like my little bubble. Yeah. Yeah. Funny people. Funny German. The funny German bubble. Yeah.

But it's very regional, you know? Like the part of Germany where we come from, the western part, it's very into your face. You know, people are very honest, straightforward. You know, and just like a little bit like in Hamburg, I would compare it to. Yeah. Of course, you have some stereotypes in the different part of Germany. But yeah, I would say we try to be authentic. And authenticity is.

is the big part of the identity of our band. You know, we don't want to play a game and pretend to be someone else. Yeah, a lot of people are doing this. But if you feel it, if you want to have an alter ego or something, you want to be someone else on stage, for whatever reason, I don't know. I mean, we are dressing up, but we are still that German goofballs, like, all the time. this is what we love the most about being in that band because we can do

like not whatever we want but we can we have so much freedom when it comes to songwriting we can we can write a Schlager song we can write a like a death chorus song we can write whatever we want to do what's a schlager song is like a German folklore yeah we have one song it's called Hurricane this is like compared like to that

genre like to Schroger to German country music it's like huge but very specific in a way Yeah. Is it the one with the tuba and stuff? Yeah, this is more like the Bavarian music. Yeah, that's very, very... Slaga can be very popular music, you know?

It's like we have some very cool pop artists that... Like Helena Fisher, for example, I think she had the Russian origin. I don't know, man. I don't know. But she's German. She was born in Russia somewhere, but German. And she's a pop star in Germany.

Yeah, well, let's say it's another kind of music. We don't like it that. much, but we thought about let's write a Schlager song and let's just end it in a in a gory disaster, yeah. Rural death core part.

Yeah. And I don't know that they're, this is so cool. Like we, whenever we talk about that topic, for example, Metallica or ACDC or like, you know what I mean? They couldn't release a song

that is based on electronic or is super poppy or I don't know. know. Yeah, they even complain when they try another snare song, you know. I mean, it was bad. It was bad. It was bad. But you know what I mean?

They couldn't change their genre, like, from song to song. Like, their fan base, they love Metallica for what they are, for that kind of music. And I wouldn't say that they are not experimenting and trying to do something different, but it still has the same DNA, the same kind of vibe. And so, I don't know, it's good to have that. Yeah, totally. And I mean, you create your own space for your work and for your art, you know. But in the end, we are so interested in different styles of music that it would totally limit our creativity if we would only start.

I mean, we found our place in general, like, floor to the floor, like electronic influences. We can't deny that. But in the end, when we feel like doing different type of song or different type of music, we just do it. it and that feels absolutely natural. And I think this is a good addition to our work here. I think I love it because, like what it's saying, you don't take yourself seriously. So I view it in the same scope of like a horror movie where like I'm watching it and I'm like, this is ridiculous.

But I'm so entertained. Shark Nato, maybe. Not even like a normal horror movie. Whereas there's some bands and I love these bands too, but they're like serious on stage. and then they're serious in interviews and they're serious behind the scenes. But you know them? Yeah.

Like they're not these type of guys when you're like talking to them. That's a character. It just happens to not be silly. Exactly. It's like a serious character. We have the problem the other way around, you know. When there are artists that portray something on stage

and they portray it in interviews, whatever, and you meet them privately and they are a little bit different, we have the same the other way around because there is, is a serious side about our band as well. Like we sometimes we wake up and we want to do a serious song about a serious topic and it even sounds serious. And I feel like an idiot, I can tell you on stage.

When I, the song before, I wore a track suit like with a wig. And the next song, I'm trying to be that tough guy, like preparing the people for a mosh part, like looking. I'm like, what am I doing it? What am I doing it? But there's like, if you look at it, if aliens came down, and you showed them like death metal, they would go, oh, this is silly.

But no, those people are being very serious. But I like the fact that you guys are silly. I'm a silly fucking guy. Yeah, I love that. I'm a silly guy myself. Hate to be a massive stereotype, guys, but what I'm about to tell you about is I think a weekend curated and designed specifically for me.

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Go to Incarceration.com. I will see you there. What kind of music did you guys grow up with? Oh, really love. Well, a big shout-out to my daddy. Yeah, to mine as well. I actually, I grew up with so much stuff, man. Like, it started with, I don't know, Elvis Presley, Beatles, Cretans Clearwater Revival,

but also Wasp, Ronnie James Dio, name it, like, Death Leopard, Journey, foreigner, like all the Bon Jovi, like all the real good stuff from back in the days. And it's still, I have to say, it's still my first. favorite kind of music. So whenever I'm feeling really bad or like really happy, this is actually the kind of music that I'm turning on. Like, I don't know. I can see the John Bon Jovi influence on stage.

Bon Jovi's in there. My keep the glasses. Yeah, it's like nearly the best record's ever written. No doubt. There have been different phases in my life and I was always a visual person. So I went for the covers that attracted my eye. And starting with the LP shelf from my father and I was like, oh, that looks great, that looks great.

My father telling me to put the needle on the LP. And I got stuck a lot to Deep Purple, like made in Japan, for example, is one of my favorite life albums of all time. And like, growing up with that kind of music and starting to be a teenager, and I was always about like extreme music, you know? I remember that was one Easter holidays, I got, it's a German techno artist called Mark O. And he was huge back in the days. Yeah, he was.

Like, it's like rave music. German rave scene was big in the 90s. Got that, the one Easter holiday. One year later, I got spiritual black dimension by Dimu Borgia. Great album. He absolutely loved that album. Oh, it makes sense now. Makes all sense.

It makes so sense. There are people, when you ask them for their favorite music, they are like, oh, yeah, whatever is on the radio, you know, that people, those people might like music and vibe with it, but they're not really passionate about music. But when you're passionate, it's like getting goosebumps and all that from music. It makes you want to do your own style, your own music. You take all the favorite parts from the music, the part that you like rewind over and over again. It's just like that feeling of when you hear the first, I don't know, like three to four seconds of a song,

even though even if you're talking to somebody and, for example, like the first riffing of Slav to the Grind from Skid Row, Yeah, yeah. Is it coming in? I'm like, oh, yeah. One roof that I can even follow all that conversation anymore. It's like, oh, I have to listen to that song. I'm so sorry, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't need the whole song, just give me that part. And then you add something from your own creativity to it. And boom, there is some new genre. You know, everybody wants genre names. Yeah, but actually I have also have to mention that, like, after that time of listening to your father's music, I still have to think of the time where like the new metal era and the whole emo era was coming up.

Like I remember that I bought a hybrid theory with my very first own money. This is also a big part of our musical history, I would say. I mean, it would be a lie to say that I'm not influenced by Pepper Roach, Lincoln Park, Glambiscuit and Corn and Slipknot and all those. I have to be carefully. Digital music, okay? is a good thing.

It gives us a lot of possibilities. We can reach so many people on this planet and a lot of bands wouldn't be heard without the digital... You want to hate a bit? No, no. But I love the times when I went to

our... We had Media Mark... Satuend. Media Mark! Medi Mark! More many HDMI cables from Media Mark. You went there and they were wrapped wrapped CD covers and you gave it to the assistant, shop assistant, and he said,

unwrap it for me. And there were CD players and you can't put it in and try out the store. In the store. You could try out the music. And if you liked it, you put it in, I'd buy it. That was enriching my taste of music so much because I spent days and days in the media market and trying all those CDs. Same here. First album and I loved screaming. I loved like tough music, hard music. And Slipknot, I found out of it, but Slip Nets. not. I will always remember that day, like, taking that digipack, putting the CD in as like, like, this industrial sound and then like, the first one slip up. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The whole thing I think is sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Intro and da-da-da-da-da-da. It's perfect. I love it.

And I took it home and that was it, you know? I was caught from that style of music. I remember that I was listening to Story of the Year, the same circumstance, and I was buying any album that they have released so far. And I was just driving home. I had nothing to do, and I was just listening to every single album over and over again. Still one of my favorite bands I have to mention. It's getting faster and faster, you know, and the feeling of going through CDs is like you can scroll and scroll and you have your flow on whatever platform and you get suggested new bands, but it's all so fast living

that you don't actually get connected so easily, you know? You don't have to pay for just one album as well. Exactly, exactly. Some albums are hard to get into. And if you paid for it, you put the work in, like, I'm going to listen to this four times in a row and then it clicks.

And these days, you can, and I'm guilty of it. You didn't skip any single song. I put a record on and be like, uh, and also, and also it influences the way of making music so much because, oh, It's all about clicks, you know? And the perfect length for a song is two and a half minutes. Yeah.

Like, you go straight at, no intro. Like, you have to have the first chorus within the first 40 seconds and all that. It's sometimes a little bit annoying. But you guys do that. We absolutely do that. Let's get on to that. Because the new record, how do I say it, Tan's Night. Tans Knight.

Yeah. Everybody was telling us, oh, you can't do that. It's nobody's gonna pronounce it. Of course you can. Yeah, but... What does it mean? It's... It's...

It's like... Like being jealous about... Is it one of those words that only exist in one... It's not even existing. We made it up. Oh, you made it up! We have a story behind it. Like, elevator operator is one song that we got from a story.

Yeah, exactly. Banger. Banger, by the way. We love that song. And it's growing life. It's getting better and better. But Chicago, there was this elevator operator for... funny story, we made a song out of it and the guy that

portrayed the elevator operator in our music video. Big shout out to Uke Bossa, by the way. It's a good friend of ours. He's such a, he's an actor, he's like a very cool guy. We shot the video and we had a huge crowd dancing and we were standing still because we had to wait for

another shot and he was all of a a sudden he was like, I'm getting tons night dance and me and we were like looking at him. Like what? Like, yeah, everybody's dancing and I have to stand still. And that's dance envy. So it is two words.

To mean dance envy and you've put them together to make... Okay, so you knew what he meant. Yeah, exactly. I remember that we were like, we were just looking at each other. Like, dude, it sounds like a song again. It's brilliant. It's a song title. We took it.

Because it's a unique feeling. I mean, it's very specific. And, but you can relate. Like, you work and you think about Friday night, but you have to work. And, or maybe you see people dance, like randomly dancing on the while you're looking out of your venue? Just having a good time or whatever? I mean, yeah.

And you want to dance, but you can't? Like, there are people that work. Yeah. I know. No, it works. It's like dance envy, and it made so much sense when we heard it. So we made it our title for the single and the album in the end. So I couldn't find a track listing for it other than the singles that have been released.

I know. Ratatatatat. With baby metal? Yeah, that's the one of the baby metal. and then you've got still waiting still waiting uh

tansnite tans night elevator operator what's the rest well the rest is we have a like a very very cool and I would say very surprising feature track on that album

can you tell you what it is should we put it all the box yeah what the fuck is in the box we don't even know somebody gave it to us like on our during our stay in a

yeah some shady guy and he was like hey you guys need to protect it with your life Exactly, and we didn't dare to look into that box, but... Yeah, since then we are carrying it around. But it's a good job. It's getting paid very well.

So we're going to see on June 5th after that... Open the fucking box. No, we can't, we can't. But there are actually some weird noises coming out of it. Open the fucking box. You brought me the box and you won't open the box for me. No, no, no, we just have to take care of it. Until June 5th.

About the feature track. Yes, please. And Craig, when you turn me... me to open the box, I'm a little bit intimidated. Really? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's... Open the fucking box! I always have to think of that Justin Timberlake thing.

Like, it's my dick in the back. Yeah, you guys have got a bit of a like a heavy Lonnie Island. Like, that's the same fucking thing. Lonely Island? We love that. We love that. There was another one. Your mother lover.

Yeah. But talking about the feature. It's, uh... Come on. That's safe. Yeah. Is it really coming after? It's coming out. This will be like,

mid-June. I'll probably do it the week after you announced this. No one was going to tell me. So this is actually... It doesn't make sense to talk about the box because the box has already

be revealed, right? Yeah, it's right. So, reveal the box. It's crazy what's going on here. Yeah, we made a little inception. Like, we are in there, to be honest. So all the people know it all. Yeah, I mean, they watch the video.

They know by now. I promise you, I swear. It's, it's not, it's not even us. It's, come on. It's like very good-looking artists. that are in there. It's not us, obviously. They don't look anything like us. Okay.

They have much better hair, much better looks. True, true. But so, yeah, we did a feature with the Ospring. Damn. Yeah, that was a good thing, man. Because when we played a festival back in, what was it, Belgium, grass pop? I think it was Grass Pop.

I think it was a band that we all started with, like playing guitar music, made me buy my first guitar and trying the riffs and stuff. And then, fast forward. 2003 something, I don't know. I just remember that some of our crew guys came over and they were like, hey, the offspring, these guys, they didn't want to talk to you.

And it sounded, really, it sounded like we did something wrong. It was like, offspring is going to come over and they're going to tell you to stop something that we were not aware of. But in the end, it turned out to be a cool chat and he was like, Dexter reaching out. Like, hey, love your music, man. I presented the music to the band and they liked it.

and we had a celebration in my house and I would like to watch your show and let's be honest, the more you get into this rock circus, more you get to know some people that have been or are your heroes from back then, but having Dexter coming over. With this whole family,

they were telling you like your music. This was very special for us. When my 15-year-old me could have seen that, you know, I'm trying to acquitue. at this point. Oh, biggie, you know. Dressed up on stage. Yeah, dressed up on stage.

But we were all shitting our pants. Yeah, that was really cool. And yeah, we thought, why not doing a song together since he likes our style? And we did. I mean, I remember that Daniel, our guitarist and producer, he was just like, when that, the second we got home, he just grabbed the guitar and was like, I have that idea of a riffing. And it sounded exactly like the offspring, to be honest, like everything that he did. And then we just tried to make like an offspring electric cowboy song Like best of both worlds I would say

And he was completely down Yeah and we even shot the music video with him here in LA And amazing You wrote the song and then you send it to Dexter And Dexter does Dexter on it Or is that back on it? During the process we actually asked him Like could you imagine to do a feature track with us

And it was completely down Yeah we found a day for a little recording session So because he was like, I'm going to the studio and you tell me what to do. Yeah, okay. And that was the first time I was like really nervous because it's something when we're working on the studio, we have experience, we know what you're doing. But like having Dexter Holland on the other side and I was, could you please do me the favor and sing this? If not as cool, you know, like this. And he was so chill.

He was like, Kevin, tell me what to do. I'm doing whatever. Did you ask him for a. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And now, no, but. But it was such funny. that right in the beginning, and I think it's later on,

there's the same thing, there's like a little, yeah, that he's doing. And... Ritma! Yeah, the song is... We have to show you that song. You know it by now.

You know it by now. But it's like, we have the song structure, and we knew what Dexter should do. And he warmed up, and he sang it, and it was brilliant, and they produced it his way,

and it sounded great. And then he was like, do you need something else? And I was like, nah, maybe. And he was like, yeah, tell me what to do.

And all the funny parts, he was totally down. And I totally love that we had some little, like the fields with the bell. Yeah. We had, because we had that feature, we put some,

some little hints on, on offspring songs. Yeah, some Easter eggs. I mean, even the song title. Yeah, exactly. It's called Let the Good Times Roll. And then we had the cowbell like, do, do, doop, doop.

Oh, yeah. Then the same thing they're like, give it to me. Yeah. Then we had the UNDOS 3. That's all in there as well? It's all in there. Oh, yeah. And it's really, and it was so much fun.

Because when it broke out of him, like beside the singing, and he was like, yeah. And we were like, yeah, that's it. Yeah. Even the video shoot, like, he's just a super nice guy. You did the video shoot everyone's at the shoot together? Yeah, yeah. Wasn't green screen? No, no, no.

That's great. That's what I'm telling you. We had some features in our very early band history where I want to say that a lot of bands have experienced that. But when the labor is coming over and telling you, oh, we have that great arson. It's more about paychecks than. Yeah, you're going to do this and it's going to bring you a good reputation, you know. It's a great boy. This fucking shit.

I hate that. There is it. We have anybody talking like this at all? Yeah. In the 90s movies. What? What did I say? I just don't know anybody who's talking like this.

It's all in my head. You're going to be huge, kid. You want to make it big? Listen me. Listen to me, son. No. Like, in our very early band history, we had a feature track with a German rap artist. And let's be honest, that was like...

He didn't even know our band's name. He was all high, you know, and he didn't get... a shit about the track. And that would never ever do something quite like this again. And this was the totally opposite direction because it was Dexter. He came.

He was like, yeah, I brought this outfits and do you like it? And what should I do? And maybe let's do it this way. And even though it was a very long day, he was just super chill. He brought his... That's what you love from a fucking a hero.

Yeah. Even his family, like... Even his family is appearing in the video. Like, they were so nice and they were like, hey, yeah, we're going to dance with you guys. Like, in the background, it's no big deal. Is it really 90s? Yeah, kind of.

We have some 90s vibes, I would say. But we wanted to make it look natural and to make everybody feel comfortable. And we have a, like, a fun side story. Yeah. In that, in that video. As you often do. Yeah, sometimes.

But it's all comes together. The side story is all about the box. I mean, for all the people that have seen the video so far, We are a SWAT team running into a building. Yeah. There's some shady guys packing some boxes and whatever. And we're like, get down, get down on the ground, everybody. And the box is like appearing.

Yeah. Somebody is like stealing that box or grabbing it and running away. And then he's falling on the ground and the box is flying, I don't know where. And some other guys picking it up. It's going its way. It's like a whole journey. Do you remember like the naked gun intro where like... It's like cop car thing.

Exactly. And it goes everywhere. Yeah. It's kind of that thing that we try to, to use. It's actually like the box, POV. Is there a reveal at the end of the video? Yeah, it's got to be there. Can I guess what's in the box?

Because it's going to be out by now? Yeah. Can I just guess? Is it little Lego versions of you? It would be funny. No, it's actually pretty, pretty close. It's, uh, like we have that end part. You know, it's like a little dance part, a little Latin vibes, you know?

That kind of groove that just like, then, did it, did it. That's what it's all about. And then we appear in this box as some other artists. But the video at this point is not ready yet, but it was so much fun to shoot it. And having fun during a video shoot is always a good sign. Do you guys come up with all these ideas?

Is it you two? Is there another third party? I mean, we have a big team. Like Pascal or guitarist and his brother, they have that video company and they're shooting every single video. Right, okay.

We are very close to each other. Like the whole video team, we know each other pretty well. And so we're sitting, whenever it comes to like a new music video, we're all sitting around and everybody is throwing his ideas just on the table.

Like, just, and then we are sorting out everything and just trying to get everything into the right direction. Yeah, let's be honest, most of the times it's, we're looking into our wallet and it's like,

oh, we can't do it. Put this away. Put this away. Yeah, this is actually like just creative work and this is what's coming out. So you got Dexter, you got baby metal, you got Frank, and you played with Eric recently. Is there anyone left you'd love to collab with, but like bucketless collab? Well, for me it would actually be, I mean, we got to know each other and I can tell that he's one of those one of those guys, one of those heroes that I'm glad to meet. I'll do it.

Huh? Huh? I'll do it. Let's go. No, sorry. I'm in the band, Franks out. No, sorry, carry on. No, I'm actually talking about Jacoby Shaddix.

Great, dude. I don't know. I was, it's 10 years ago. Like, it's with my former band. And he was just passing by. And I was, you see that? And I was, like, breathe in, breathe out. My heart was running.

And I was like, I have to do it. I have to go there. I have to talk to this guy. He's one of my heroes. Like, I have to. usually I'm not that kind of guy that's like can we take a photo but I had to

and he was like yeah dude no no no problem no problem great impression and we started talking it was not just great impression it is that's really like he's always like a bit hyperactive like I don't know but it wasn't he didn't give me the feeling not at all

to be I don't know annoying or like anything like this was more like he was actually talking to me listening to me, gave me a look into my eyes. And I was calming down. Like, while we're talking,

I don't know if he could even remember, but like sharing the stage with him for one or two songs or whatever, that would be actually a dream come true for me. Because he's still, for me, one of the best front guys that I know. Definitely. Can totally relate. We toured when you were not in the band.

That was a hard time back then. But we toured with them. It's just like Nico said. I met some artists and I don't even blame or judge them because you either being I'm sometimes I'm being

quite introvert when I'm off stage like and the thing is when there are a lot of people the more popular you get the more people want to talk to you and it's not a fault but it's making

it's making you giving you a hard life sometimes because you have like a social battery and if it's empty it's empty and you can't act on it. Maybe you just met somebody like having a bad day. Exactly. But in the end you have to be yourself and Jacobi was like on our very first tour,

first date, first show day. He's coming into our green room. And he was like, hey, I wanted to say hi. And it was like, and makes it very natural, you know? Like in the end, as Nico already said, it's like, they're just people making music just like us and no matter how much they achieved him life, they're pretty much the same. But as a fan, when you see them on screen for so many years, there's like there's a gap. You can't help yourself, but seeing them like here, you know?

Sure. Sure. I mean, we grew up with that fans. And to be honest, we now, we experience the same in some ways, you know? Like just a couple days ago, I met some people outside of the venue and then just like walk by they were calling for me and I know that we're doing that music and that are a lot of people

and I can relate because I feel the same way towards other people but when I see them like shaking and stuff it makes me super nervous Yeah but it makes me feel so comfortable uncomfortable for them because I don't want to be on that podium

Yeah you want to be like I'm just a person I'm just a guy I really appreciate you from liking our style Nice to meet you buddy Yeah yeah It's weird You know, when I'm on stage, of course. I'm the motherfucker on stage.

I'm, you know. But still, there are a lot of people, even bands and artists that are not that famous, that are behaving like they are on the edge of the world, you know, like on top of the world. And this is something that I really, I can't. It won't last because everyone will be like, that guy sucks.

And then when that band has the dip, when they need their friends bands to take them out, like, you can support us now. So for me, for me, it's always like, be respectful, always. Humble. What the fuck is my feet of water anyway? Be yourself. And even if you don't, and even if you don't want to talk, even if you don't want to talk,

I mean, you can be honest but friendly. You can be honest but respectful. You could say something like, hey, I'm so sorry, man. But right now it's really, it's just not a good timing. I'm completely exhausted. Maybe next time I'm so sorry. But right now I just, I don't feel it right now. They take it fine.

It's another feeling then just ignore like a person or just give somebody the feeling that you are right here and he's way down low. So this is something that I can't handle. What are you looking at? It's like just that I found out that your earring has a little chain on it. It's so cool. What? Turn this way. Look at that.

Oh, that is cool. Yeah. Then a little chain is. He's trying to tell a nice story about being like a humble, sorry. humble guys. ADHD kicks in you know. He was just recognizing how beautiful I am. That's what I thought.

It was very loving. Yeah. Do you want the water? I think we have. No, no, no. I'm just kidding. I'm fine. It's not Fiji.

I, yeah, yeah. Fuck it. Fuck it. I don't drink anything else. I have a paparoach story actually. A paparoch. I get told off for saying Papa. Papa.

What do you say? Papa Roach. Papa Roach. Europe, Europe, baby. We were playing, Australia was playing Finland in like 2018 or something. We get a random text, and it was from Jacoby. And it was like, hey, we got a day off. Can we come to your show?

Yeah, of course you fucking can. It's like a 300-capped room in Finland. All of Paparoachers come. Come watch the show. Come upstairs, hang out. And then they took us on tour later on. It was just like, he's the fucking best. He'll do that.

100% he's doing that. And that's the point. It's the whole band, to be honest. They have different characters, and Jacobi is the most outgoing. but everybody in this band is very friendly. Let's wrap it up. I don't want to ruin your day. You already did.

I mean... Oh, what? I'm having a great time. I don't care because I'm having a great time. You just sold out Red Rocks. Oh, yeah. That's a good point because Red Rocks. Everybody was...

And blame... Shame on me. I didn't even know that it's that famous... It's a bucket list. One on my bucket list. But before we planned this tour... Fucking Germans. We didn't know.

Before we planned that tour, I didn't know about Red Rocks. And when we had all the dates together and someone told us like, oh, you're going to play Red Rocks. So many people. It started to grow on us. Like, oh, yeah, this is a thing, right? It's a thing. And it's the thing for reason, the history and all, like, we've seen all the pictures on the walls of the bands that played there. And it's really, really nostalgic place.

It's like a little bit. It's great. Scenery. You look down on the village. You see everything. You see the rocks. It's like a totally... It's a crazy picture.

But hard times for all kind of music. Yeah. There's no infant. You only have those like steps. People stand up. Oh, yeah. It's just seat. Yeah, dude, there's no marsh pits.

There's no circle pits. It's just not possible. It's weird. And also, you're literally... The stage is this high, like this couch. Really? And you just look up. You're performing like this all the time.

Instead of down. It's like this. It's like when you have an arena, you have like, it's like this. But it's even like this. Yeah. It feels like this. It feels a little bit weird.

But in the end, it was magical. Everybody told us, like Frank played there before, and he told us, yeah, it looks strange, but it's got to be magical. And he enjoyed for some. And we did enjoy it. And it's really, as you say, bucket list thing. Other than Jacoby, is there anything left, like venues or things? on the bucket list.

For me, it's actually, but just because we reached in Europe, we reached that arena level, it's still crazy. Don't get me wrong. It's not something that I'm used to. It's not that I take that for granted or something.

But everybody's talking about the next step. So the next step would be, this is just logical, I would say, would be a stadium. So the plan is, or the bucket list,

right on top would be actually one time on our lives, having a show in a stadium, like... You got a particular one? Come on, Germany's got someone the best. Not Schoerke. I mean, I like, I like

Schalker, the soccer club Shalke. Wait, who's your team? Brousa Dortmund. It's like the arrival. But, but... Yeah, Shalke just re-entered the first league again, so they...

Get punched again. Anyway. So that one's easier to do. That's a real bucket list. The thing is stadium sounds shit. Everybody knows that. It's always hard to have proper sound in a stadium. But I like to beat this like metallic cut it, this 360 degree. You can do something crazy.

Even thinking of the possibilities of like the creative work that you can put into that live show. And you, like, for me, it's like, you know, that this is like one live show, one stadium show in one year. Yeah. Maybe, you know, like, everything that we are thinking of, like, everything, putting everything that we can do into one show and make it like the craziest. Love all the money on production. This is something that I would like to do once in my life. And that's a good point to, to, this is like thinking big to, like, I told you, when we talked about our news production, we had to get rid of. of some stuff, even though it looks great,

and we have so many things, like the moving axis in Europe, like crazy. But we had to get rid of some stuff that I put everything that we are capable of into that production in a stadium. That would be great. But also, and that is one thing on my bucket list as well, we are coming from a little town, like not too little, but 80,000 citizens around. Kastrobrucksel in the Rurgebiet, in Germany, Western Germany. And I would like to play there.

We have something like, what's it called, like a center? Europa Hall. It's like a hall, the biggest hallway that we can have there. I don't even know the capacity, but... Like a real hometown show. Real hometown show. You know, like having our mayor, like attending the show, like, maybe the local marching band, you know. Something is real German.

Real German and real Kassel-Brogel, homecoming, and making it go crazy with all fans. and friends and families, you know, and that would be something that I looked forward to. There's one thing that I actually, that I would love to do. This is something that Metallica did architects. They did it lately, like playing a whole life show with a big orchestra in the background. Amazing. That is something like, it gives me, oh, really, that gives me goosebumps, but. That would be, like, that's what my introduction, speaking to Demi Borgier earlier,

My introduction to Dimmy Borgia was S&M Metallica. Yeah. Because I heard that. And I was like, wow, I wonder if there's another band that does metal with orchestra. And I put it into fucking Jeeves or whatever it was at the time. And it comes up to Jimmy Borgia. I put it on. I'm like, that's my favorite shit.

Yeah. To see you guys mix everything you already mix plus classical. That's fucking amazing. Like when the, when COVID was going on, we took the time. to have a lot of remixes and different versions of hyper hyper with other bands and artists. And there were different versions of hyper hyper hyper. And I liked how this song fit into any genre, you know?

And when I think about us, like, doing that silly life show, but then having like a very classical orchestral, it would be funny. I would even sing it in a suit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But with the wig on. Yeah.

Yeah. Like it. Beautiful. Right. We're going to wrap it up. I got one thing to ask you. Okay. Are you aware of the Americans have a concept that's called German honesty?

Is it like they considered Germans to be honest? But to a fault. So touring in Germany, sometimes you'll be at merch. The best one I ever heard was someone go, great show. Can I do the accent? Sure. Great show. You wore better shoes last time.

What? You are learning of this for the first time. Okay. Okay, even if a German would have said that to us. But I can relate. That would be ridiculous. Really? I know, but it's like...

But a lot of Germans are actually... This is actually a stereotype that I love the most about Germans. It's complaining about nearly everything. It's so... This is really, really German. So, for example, that was a great show, really. But you didn't play this and that and that song. And your singer, he sounded a bit...

Was his voice gone or something? Yeah, this is German. Honestly, this is it. This is it. I can tell you, I mean, trying to explain it from a psychological point of view. Yeah. There are two possible explanations for that.

The one is Germans want to improve stuff, you know? Great cars. Yeah. You guys got great cars. Yeah, but yeah, it's getting weaker and weaker. We're struggling. But I can tell you, if something is good, you don't leave it good. You're trying to make it even better, you know?

And when someone approaches you and says, yeah, you did a great job, the only thing that would make it better is the fucking shoes it comes across like... How can you? So what I have to ask can you German honesty me right now? Anything.

Give me something. Give me some true German honesty right now. The only thing that I would say like the temperature is... He matched your desire. But still it's not on point. Not on point?

I'm making something up. There's nothing to complain about. Like nothing. It's like... No, we would. We would. I would. I really would. The thing is, it's actually, this is something that is coming from, like, from a, from a situation.

Like, I don't know when... Nobody could have come in and said, the shoe thing. Craig, Greg, one thing, I haven't seen you for quite some time, you know, I've been following you. I really like the blonde accents in your hair. Perfect. That's exactly. I mean, you can wear it like this. If you don't want it perfect, you can wear it like this. He's growing up.

If you want to make it perfect, you want to have those blonde. Perfect German honesty. And then also, yeah, it was my 39th birthday. I was like, I'm not dyeing my hair anymore. Happy birthday. When was it? I was fucking months ago, two months ago. Two months ago.

Last year, then your back starts to hurt, you know? Is that it? Yeah. Yeah, I just stopped dyeing my hair because it's just too much work. Yeah, you did the same thing. Fucking hate it. Same thing. I was like this, because it looks great for like two weeks.

It turns yellow, like really like a, like a, you know, like you don't want to look like this. So you start wearing. hats and stuff, like you're complaining about the accent on your hair? And then you have to dye it again and I had like two long hairs growing out of my nose before this. Dude, it looked like there was like an insect or something

coming out of your nose. And he's like like sticking. Yeah, we're getting old boys. That's what happens to me as well. And the long eyebrows. They don't teach you this in school. They should teach you taxes, number one. And then all the other shit.

And then like, by the way, at 30 and onwards, everything is going to start growing. everything else is going to start going but this is going to grow like nose hair is crazy I can pull them out in one day my wife was like

recently she was like all they come in like their hair is coming out of your ear was like what it's mold you have a blonde if you haven't gotten they're coming

they're coming I don't want too yeah I have no no not that bad I have to shave my eyebrows shave my fucking ears look at this I'm pulling my fucking

can you believe it I have long eyebrow hair yeah I got the long eyebrow hair Like when I was... I have that nose shaver. Like... Yeah. I remember when I was 30,

there was like one long hair in my eyebrows. Now my whole eyebrows only consists of long hairs. Yeah. Weird. And that's a great place to end the podcast. Electric Corboy, thank you so much. Have a lovely show. So much.

Thanks for having us, much to hang out with you. And it has been a plan for so long. And now we did it. I can't wait to hear the record. I fucking love your band. Thank you. Thank you guys. Take care.

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