The Downbeat - Emma Boster (Dying Wish)

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

My guest this week is Emma Boster, vocalist of Dying Wish. We talked about the creation of their STUNNING upcoming album Symptoms of Survival (and our Downbeat exclusive vinyl variant) as well as a variety of topics from Britney Spears conspiracy theories to gender and much more. Check out the exclusive Downbeat variant of Symptoms of Survival with insane death metal artwork at https://www.dyingwishhc.com

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My guest this week is Emma Boster, one of my besties, Emma Bestie. We did a tour with Iron Wish. She's been on the podcast before, but not the video version. We did an audio episode a while ago. Then we did a tour together. Bonded, such a good human, such a good band. In this episode,

we discussed a limited edition, downbeat, times dying wish vinyl you know the drill a real dumb looking vinyl I'm not going to spoil it for you in this episode we cooked up what it was going to be

it's since been painted death metal style you can pick up the limited edition dying wish downbeat version of symptoms of survival on vinyl pink splatter vinyl

with a limited edition crazy artwork come up with by me and Emma Boster at Dyingwishhc.com It's out November 3rd, it's ridiculous, and it's time for Emma Boster on the Downbeat podcast. Hangover out of 10.

Solid seven? Sevens don't exist. Okay, eight. Yeah. nice. Yeah. Mine kicked in moments ago. Like, I felt fine.

And now I'm like, oh, because like, now the stress, I'm nervous. Me too. Thank you for saying that, actually. Why? Because I'm kind of nervous. Even though we've hung out the last two days, I'm like, this is different, you know. There's a bit of anxiety there for me, definitely. But then, why are you nervous?

It's just kind of a big deal, you know? Thanks. Thank you for saying that. Oh, yeah, by the way, you can leave this in, Simon, the editor. He's NDA'd up his ass. So, you know, say what you want, we'll get it cut out. Awesome. No one's ever done it, but I think that takes the anxiety off some people.

Okay, good. Some people with those, I was going to say, colorful vocabulary, but no one that's been on has that. I will say this, though, what is it about the girls drinking on the podcast? at lunchtime. Hair of the dog, first of all. But I don't know. It's just like, it helps take the edge off.

Connie was the same. It was like 10.30 a.m. I was like, can't get your drink of anything. She goes, have you got it? I was about to do like an American accent. I'm not going to do it. Have you got any whiskey? And I was like, fuck yeah, I do. Let's go.

I love it. When you said the NDA, you can say anything you want. It can be taken out. I immediately thought of Connie. me. Just because I've hung out with her so much. But I actually don't think she's afraid of saying or anything. Not a single edit.

She's fearless. Maybe some stuff that sponsors would go. But then again, I talked about taking my dog's phantom pregnancy medication on the episode with Brendan. So that will be coming up. I'm going to pull a drink out right now. Okay. And despite everything I told you yesterday,

Remember I got annoyed at you yesterday. I'm going to pull it out and you're going to go, you're going to remember what it is. Okay. Oh. Shout out. If you're just, no, no shout out. Okay.

But I'm very tired. If you're just listening to this, fuck you because this cost a lot of money to do. So please watch it. But I've just pulled out a can. A delicious can of Monster Energy Zero Ultra. And yesterday you did. A collab pose?

Has it happened yet? Um, they posted it this morning. And, uh, Emma didn't know if, if it was, you know, funded by Monster and I lost my shit. I was like, no free shit. Why are you fucking doing this? We don't have to go into that because I know that sort of thing is in progress, but I just want you to know that I am completely being hypocritical here based on the fact I'm going to drink a monster, but I need it to get through this.

I thought you were going to make me take another tequila shot. No, no, no, no, no. But also if you're watching Monster, can I have some money? Yeah, please. You need nice to have some money. Because what I'm going to do as a sort of, as a little bit of a fuck you, I'm going to face the logo to me. If you'd like in a future episode for me to face the logo to a camera,

then get in touch. We need a Mountain Dew guy. I need one so bad, especially the hard Mountain Dew. I don't really need a standard Mountain Dew guy. I don't drink soda really. Well, that's a lie. Coke zero. But other than that, like, I never really drank soda growing up or anything.

Coke Zero gives me restless legs. Yeah, but, like seriously in bed. Really? If I drink Coke Zero in the day, in bed, I'm just writhing around. Not even in like a fun way, just rubbish. Yeah. I will say we were watching, we've been. binge watching Mind Hunter on Netflix.

Great show. It's really good. And I drank maybe three Coke Zeros in the span of like an hour and a half yesterday. And it for sure. For sure, fuck me up. Wait, yesterday? Yeah.

At what time? Noon. Sick. Well, the life of a musician. Right. Nashville resident now. I know. Where are you originally from?

Portland, Oregon. You're born and bred Portland. In Oregon. We kind of moved around a lot. So I was born in Bend, Oregon, which is a beautiful place. Bend is in to Bend? Yes. It's in central Oregon on the other side of the mountain range from Portland.

And then my mom, she was really young when she had me. So when I was five, she went to university at Southern Oregon University. And then we lived in Southern Oregon for seven years. And it sucked. Why does it suck? It's just real small town. lots of drugs like meth

meth and stuff it's like the meth capital of no like I always was traumatized by those this is you before and after meth billboards because little me was always like

somebody's going to make me do meth and then I'm going to end up like that just because I didn't really understand it but those transformations are pretty wild are they real or they are to scare people off oh it's real it's so weird it affects

your face. Yeah. The meth look. Yeah, I mean, it's chemicals. I wonder if it will ever come into fashion. Like, meth looks back. Everyone getting involved. There's one simple new tropic you can take to get the meth look.

It's called meth. I'd prefer that over like gachow pants ever making a comeback. Remember those? What pants? Gouchos. They were like a yoga pants, but they're kind of like hippie looking. They have like the wide leg yoga pant look. I thought a yoga pant was like a legging.

It is, but they're like baggy. Like baggie. Oh my God. No, no, no. Respectfully, a yoga pan is a yoga pant. Don't fuck with it. Right. Don't fuck with a yoga pant.

I didn't even say Emma Boster, thanks for coming on a downbeat. Thank you for having me, Craig Reynolds. You're back. Round two. Yeah. I won't hang up on you a million times this time. Is that what happened? Yeah.

I've seamlessly edited it out, I think. Was that pandemic? It was. We didn't know each other at all. That was the first meeting. It was. That's crazy. Do you think we hit it off or do you think it was rubbish?

I think we hit it off. And then we toured together and now our best friends. I was nervous for that one. Really? Yeah, because from the outside perspective, Emma Boster. Right. And this doesn't define you, but female, hardcore. I was like, I'm getting cancelled.

It's fucking happening. But not that you've done anything. I was just like, you know, the perception of, you know, on Twitter. Not you, personal, but I was like... Just generally. Pandemic anxiety on all time, I was like, she's going to fuck me up.

I'm going to say the B word, and that'll be it. She'll hang up on me. No. I love the B word. I love the C word, too. I love it, but you can't say it on this podcast. No, will they take it off everything?

It gets automatically demonetized as hate speech. Okay. And the only episode I've had it done to was North Lane, which is obviously Australians and me. There was probably about 400 in there, but it's shadow band. It can't even, like, if you search for it, exactly, you can get it. That's very American.

Can I say bitch? Yes. I don't mean right now, I just mean in general. I love that I'm your go-to. We talk about this. Yeah. You're my barometer of, can I say that? I don't think I'd ever call a woman a bitch unless she was being.

I think you can say it. Yeah? You definitely can't say. Even then, I know you can't say the C word. No. Because it's... That's a little far. Especially in this country.

Mm-hmm. That, like, the C word holds so much weight here. Yeah. Like, it's like the worst thing you can be called. I, I, we literally. spoke about this one second before this but you haven't done curb your enthusiasm or you don't like it i tried i tried really hard but it like stresses me out like a lot he's he's he's just it's just like very stressful situations all the time and yeah i i want to like manage it but it's like

watching a train wreck happen yeah it's it's like a cartoon almost like every episode has a one thing that goes terribly wrong and it gets resolved at the end. But there's a great episode with him saying the C word in America. Mm-hmm. And you'll have to watch it. That's all I'll say about that. But speaking of words, you can't say. Okay.

Last night, karaoke. God damn. Never experienced anything like that in my life. Can't say God damn. Yeah, we came in and the guy over the microphone was like, hey, guys, and welcome in to him. Are we going to give him a shout out? Santa's Pub.

Hey, guys. Welcome to Sanders Pub. Just so you know. I know it was actually Jeremy De Poister was going to sing Break Stuff. And they said, you can't say that because we can't do GDs or F bombs.

And I didn't even clock what GD was. And then F bomb, I was like, they don't say that in that song? An F bomb is, you know. I thought the same thing. And it kind of And then the GD was goddamn Which is fucking

Almost cool how fucking nerdy that is I'm sorry you can't say GD I don't get it There has to be a reason And I don't like Being told not to do something Without a reason for it Yeah

And yeah I don't know Like not taking drinks up there I can understand What if you spilled it? It got on their very high quality. Glad you made the joke. Yeah. Oh, no, not my PG-58.

Right. That's a cool, funny joke about the lower-range shore microphones. You wouldn't catch road making one of those road microphones. Sorry. Yeah, so that was fun, and you stayed out later than me. We stayed there until 2.30. I want to read verbatim. I can't.

My phone's not here, but I can remember it. verbatim because we went out the night before where did we go for dinner that was lovely um geist our friend Jillian is the general manager at Geist she hooked it TF up she did and the drinks are amazing they just added a vegan thing

to the menu I'd like to think that I'm partially responsible for that who knows she didn't deny it so they were very eager to give it to you try this one yeah try this one but then we went for karaoke I did karaoke because Brendan said he would He would do it if I did it and I never do it.

And he fucking left. He was like, I'm so drunk. I can't see. I have to go home. And then we got drunk and there was a text from you the next morning. Guys, I can't do last night again. I can't do last night again. I haven't been sleeping well.

And everyone was like, yeah, me too, me too, except for me and Jeremy. And then I would argue that we got more drunk. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I think it's like when you go on a bender, the residual effects just continue to grow. I'm there right now. You know, I've got like,

because before this week, we went to Sound and Fury. And we went on Thursday, had two days of vacation, hung out with my mom, went to the pool, and then went to Sound and Fury and then flew home

and immediately hung out with you guys. So I'm just like, I'm like a weekend. Oh, you all. on it. You are absolutely on it. How was Sound of Fury? I saw the videos that fucking mental. The best weekend of my life. It was amazing. I went to my first Sound and Fury in 2012 when it was still in Santa Barbara. And I was 17 years old. And I maybe like, I think I told my mom where I was going, but I was just like, hey, I'm just going to like go to a fest in California. And she was like, okay, whatever. I was like almost

18. So she let me do whatever I wanted. We just, drove down Santa Barbara, didn't have a place to stay, so he slept on the floor of someone's hotel room and just like, you know. When was this? Raw dogged it. 2012. I saw the barrier thing. I don't want to go to Sound and Fury because last time I asked someone what they eat on tour

and everyone's like, you're copying the hard law pit. Oh. Love Hardlaw. It's the only other music podcasts I like. Same. But come on, it's all we have to talk about is food. But they did a Sound and Fury thing, so I don't want to. maybe they've explained it.

I don't know it came out today. But did you have that crazy barrier thing? No. And they do explain it on the pod from what I've seen. Fuck this then. Go and listen to the Hardler episode. I don't want to do that at all. You've got an album coming out.

Yes. November 3rd. November 3rd. This will be out way before then. Yeah. When does this come out? I've got it written down somewhere. Tom told me when.

But what it's going to do is have a, a downbeat dying wish vinyl collab which I've done three times before two stray one void of vision now we're going to do dying wish but what we have to do right now

at the start of the episode I will have explained that you can pre-order it now but I'm not going to have shown it hopefully by this point it will be up there at the end of this section not physically, but virtually up here.

Because we're going to make the dumb artwork. I love it. Isn't technology awesome? So sick. Yeah. Like, it has to be dumb is my only criteria. Okay. The album is called Symptoms of Survival. Do you have...

The artwork already, Paul Romano, is unbelievable. Perfect. It's perfect. It's not as perfect as what we're about to make. Okay. But it is perfect for it. a real life record, before we go into making our dumb as fuck one, who came up with that? Who wanted him? I think it was a Tom or a Sam idea.

Nice. I don't remember. That's two of my boys right there. Yep. I mean, I love all you guys. I don't know why I said that. Because he, I know full well. Paul Romano, obviously, he's done Mastodon, he's done.

The Acacia strain one he did is the only. only one, please don't anyone show this to him. It's the only one where I'm like, really? Like the little guy on it. He did the continent. Oh, okay. And there's like a insane hellscape

and then like a little guy that looks like a cartoon. I can see the vision. I, yeah, you can be on the fence. I don't intend on using Paul Romano, so I can roast him. I'm not going to roast him. Some of my favorite artwork ever.

Mastodon. Leviathan. You ever seen the pulled out version? the vinyl version? No. It's unreal. I, you, the pullout, the poster for ours is so cool. Is it an extension of the artwork or is it a new thing?

It's on theme but different. Sick. But I know he doesn't really like any, like, notes. He will just, from what I know, people will go, here's what it's about. And he goes, let me cook. Yeah, well, I can explain how we ended up with that. Fragments, the cover, is very dark. The record is dark, but it feels kind of like a trauma dump in a way.

And we kind of felt like symptoms of survival. The whole idea behind this record was growth because we've grown as band, as people. And so we, Pedro, came up with this idea to have the artwork be green as like a symbol of growth. And then we thought it'd be cool if there was like

a corpse that had growth coming from it to kind of symbolize this life after death because we just talk about death so much on the record. But it's like in a different mindset than Fragments was written in. Fragments was really negative. Symptoms of survival is kind of just like a, it is what it is,

acceptance level of everything. So that was kind of what we pitched. He listened to the record. I sent him all the lyrics for the record. I gave him like a synopsis of what each song was about. And then he just took off. And we got the album cover, which is amazing. Like all of the artwork involved is really cool.

Yeah, because he does more than just the front, like you said, the pull out, there's loads of stuff. That's cool. I thought he worked differently. I thought it was just, give me the name of the album and what's it about. He said that that's normally how he likes to operate, but he had mentioned that normally with Macedon, he's so involved in their creative process

that he's actually in studio with them while they write the record, which is something that I really admire and think is really cool. And hopefully going forward, you know, we'll be able to involve him more in the studio so he can be a part of that creative process and really absorb that. that's what he said he's done for Mastodon. They don't really give him direction. He just is so involved with the art that it's like he gets it.

And so hopefully in the future, that's what we'll do. You want to continue using them? Yeah. I love it when a band uses the same artist. Some people think it's lazy. But like, think about Metallica. Like those first few Metallicas, it's all the same. Oh, another podcast where he talks about Metallica.

I'll be fucking short. But like... What's the tally on that one? Every single episode. Yeah. Every, come on a fucking podcast last, you fucking idiot. I love it. And I love it.

And then like, because then you get to like change the colors. Like, you know, if it means something else. But you know what's funny about that is some people, sometimes you can accidentally copyright a color. Like, do you think a, imagine a hardcore band comes out with like that soft pink now after turn stuff. Mm-hmm. You just can't do it.

No. You can't do it. Death Heaven, sunbatheather. No one can use that sort of red sunrise thing. It's copyright. It's done. Mm-hmm.

You could copyright a color green. It's not green enough. Dying which green. It's not green enough, but that would be cool to have like our own, like, what do they call them, pantone? Mm-hmm. Big pantone head.

Yeah. That's what they call me. Okay. I actually want to go into a, our artwork later because now I feel like we're on a little roll about the album. Okay. We'll figure things out. Okay.

Now I heard a rumor. A little bird told me that either, I can't remember, because I'm not a professional, either the title, the title track was going to be buried, like track. Sorry, I'm like, okay, continue. Are you good? Yeah, if you heard that, I was, I'm just, yeah. It can be edited out, but I can leave it if you want. Just leave it.

Nice. Someone told me the title track was either you weren't sure if it was even going to make it or it was going to be like track seven or something. We had, before we even tracked vocals, we had what we thought the track listing was going to be. And symptoms of survival was on the back half of the record. Whose idea was it to put it first? Because they need either a record.

or just a crown or something. I'm really bad or remembering whose idea was what. Honestly, Tom's, it was Tom's. Of course it was. Yeah. The man is good. It's just, it's,

that song is not like anything we've ever written before. And so I think that it's really cool to start the record with that because it makes such a statement. It's the biggest, like I love your record. Tom sent it to me.

I'm pretty late on, when someone sends me a record, I'm late to actually listen to it. I never listen to music. people send me. I'm really bad about it. I'm so picky. Like out of the last, I get emails all day because I just get put on the press thing now because I'm a breast guy apparently. And it needs to be, I think this year, it was Tesseract's album, which is due to come out later on and your album. And that's it. Really?

I've gone back to and I go through, you know, the links that they give you the sound card. I'm like, that's all me. Because I know how many. many times I've listened to it. So I go back and I'm like, because they're very, like, you can sort of tell who actually has listened to it. Because I went back and listened to it this morning as a refresher. And, you know, I was like, oh, got a lot of these of me. Cool, good for me. Yeah. But that song, I need to know, did it have Randy LeBerf on it? Was it or who? Whole record has Randy all over it.

He needs his flowers. He does. Randy needs his flowers on the downbeat. He is the sixth member of Dyingwich that just doesn't tour with us. He's very involved in everything that we do. And I don't think there's any shame in that at all. It's allowed us to elevate to where we are now. He truly, because before Fragments, you know,

we were kind of teetering on like what kind of metalcore we wanted to do. And then, you know, we did. What did mean before Fragments? You know, we like put out our dental. and the split with this band serration. And I had a friend, Nick Fit, actually. I don't know if you've ever met Nick Fit. I think so.

Unless I have in which case, I'm sorry. He's the kind of person where if he doesn't like your band, he will tell you. Sick, that's me too. Yeah. And when we came out with fragments, he was like, you know, this is really cool because before this, like, I could kind of tell you guys didn't know what you wanted to sound like. You were just kind of figuring it out.

And he's like, you really figured it out on this record. And so to me, that's like a Nick Fit compliment. But Randy really helped us discover our sound and, like, hone it in. I would make the same statement as well because I like Fragments. But, and I don't want this to sound mean. No, I probably agree with whatever you're about to say. Most things on Fragments, I heard when that genre came. out like early kill switch.

Just, just metalcore. Yeah. I was there. I'm old. How old are you? 28. Yeah. I turned 29 next month.

Last year in my 20s. When your birthday? September 16th. Every time someone says September for their birthday, I'm waiting for the number. For that number. Close. Only ever happened once for me. It did ruin my birthday one year, you know.

I was about to say what year. But it would have been 2001. I was seven. It happened to me in the gym. Luckily in the gym in the UK, because I reckon I'd have got my ass kicked in the States. I can't remember how I got into someone's birthday next week. I was like, I win your birthday?

And they said September 11th. And I said, without even fucking thinking, I just went, I'm lucky for some. You know, like when someone, when it's like the 13th, Friday the 13th, and someone says, unlucky for some. And I just went and, oh, if I was in America, I'd been so fucked. Yeah.

I was on the phone with Tom Williams yesterday, and I answered the phone because he's from New York. I said, Tom Williams, 631, 9-11 Survivor, how are you doing? And that got a pop. I was just about the docks his fucking phone number. 631, 9-11. No, but, yeah. I mean, he made it out. Let's get off 9-11.

Okay, I'm sorry. I love, well, we did talk about conspiracies. I love talking about 9-11. We'll get to it. It's coming on my list. I've literally got a look at my list because how long do you reckon we've done already? We're fucked. We are fucked.

That's all right. How long do you reckon we've done? How long do you what? Do you reckon we've done on the podcast already? 40 minutes. Oh, no. Okay. We're good with 31.

Okay, that's not bad. People will be listening. It's like, it's not 31. Well, that's because there was some edits. Yeah. Okay. Randy influence that I, because I don't know how you guys write us on, which we're going to come to because it's something I love to ask everyone.

The two moments that I don't know, I know Randy, I love him to death. I don't know musically Randy. I've never worked with him. He's been in the studio, if anyone doesn't know, for the record. Randy LaBeerf is the producer, mixer. Co-writer. Co-writer.

For a lot of bands, a lot of your favorite bands. Yeah. Like Kubicon, the occasion strain. He got good roster. He's got bar. And, but I've never worked with him, but we, you know, in that, in the Belleville kitchen. Oh, yeah. We've all out of time there.

And we would, like, bond over music. So symptoms, I thought, sounds like really early Meshugger. The breakdown in it sounds like it should be on none EP. And that was a point where I thought, I wonder if Randy had something to do with that. And then the flip side of that, bookending it. how much did, I almost want to do a separate segment. But I've got to hit my notes because I'm an absolute idiot. You're organized.

I'm not. I'm just brain dead. Lost in the fall. Oh, yeah. Was that a Brandy Emma date? Kind of. That was like, this is the moment, you know? So originally the bridge at the end, the piano part, that was just one.

Like that just happened once. And then he was like, it's got to repeat. Like, we've got to build this up more. And so he starts with the piano and then the we will never be the same starts. And then it repeats again. So I think we added two just to like really build it. And then the chorus comes back. and the idea was to just have like this epic like evanescence ending with that sounds like

has all the parts repeating from the bridge and from the chorus and just like sounds like this like choir you know performance piece I guess um but I mean we we leaned into the kill switch um like influence a lot on the record but that was just just like almost like how can we write like a metalcore song that's like kind of written like a pop song yeah if you were going to say that was a kill switch bit i was like that's not a kill switch bit no torn from your silhouette was the the um working title for that song was how we doing like Howard jones how we doing yeah because that that's just like such a kill switch moment but yeah anyways lost in the fall i just wanted to know because it is

If you took your voice off it and you put Jesse's voice on it, it could be a trade win song. Like in terms with the composition, with the his magic synthans, all the little weird shit going on. And I love trade win, big trade win. I love that last record that came out, what, like two years ago now. So good, though. Wait. The one with a balloon on the front? No.

Oh, fuck. No king of me. Or is that out of the balloon one? It's the one with the like the painting artwork. Yeah, I don't know. They're all good. They're all good. Yeah, it's got a bit of radio head in it.

It's got a bit of stuff. I flick back and forward because you say stuff that works with what I want to say anyway. Okay. How are you picking singles? Because again, not that it defines you. You can sing. You've got pipes. Thank you.

You've got bars. Vocal bars. But not. I mean, you might have bars. You got chops. Chops, thank you. You got chops. Do you find it hard picking a single between you?

No. I think it's just pretty obvious, you know, what songs need to be heard. There is one song, and that's Pray for Me. The best breakdown. It's so insane. But it almost just feels. like, you know, with cowards, we really built up the track one hype for that. And so, you know, everything else is radio, could be radio play that are all the singles, you know. So it kind of gives

people this idea of what to listen to from the record. But, you know, that pray for me just comes so out of left field that when people listen to it on the record, they're going to be like, what the fuck? And then it just goes right into Pat to your grave. And so, Is that going to be a single, though, pray for me? No. I don't know if we're, surely we're allowed to talk about what the next single will be. Yeah, the next single is lost in the fall. Is it?

Yeah. So there we go. I mean, that's picking a single for radio. Yeah, that video too, I worked with Neck, obviously. Dragoref. He needs to come on the fucking podcast. He does. But I need it to look good.

If this was anywhere near him, he would be here. We did one on tour, like the whole band, but it didn't have all this fucking, cinema shit. Well, he's your guy, too. I know. I could just ask him. Yeah. I never even thought.

You want you to set up for your podcast, please, wait? Yeah. Anyway, do you want to tell me about the video? I don't know. When's that going to come out, though? August 30th. Do you reckon, I mean, it'll be out by now, as we've just fucking talked about and then edit it out.

Don't edit that out, Simon. Do you ever, are you ever nervous, like, you're going to get some, like, I was going to say, is blowback the term? Blowbacks to the term, isn't it? For what? For like, I don't know, it's not heavy. Or I just made you nervous.

No, not really. No? No, I think it's really important to know that, like, we made the record with every intention of doing right by us and by our fans and everyone that supports us, but this is just a really true representation of what we want to do, and there are really hard songs on the record. just not singles and um you're gonna play them though you're gonna play are you gonna play pray oh god yeah i have an

just fucked jeff's fucked i heard that and i just went oh no jeffy boy yeah we he earned the nickname in the studio the bull the bull because jeff is just now he's just like he's really been refined through the years of touring that we've done and he's really good and he did all of those songs in like three days. Nice. So he coined the nickname, The Bull, for that. And it's hard because when we posted the track stuff and how Randy does records, which is drums last, everyone's like, oh, drums are fake.

No, it's just. And people said drums are fake? They assumed, yeah, but it's real. Of course it is. Randy and Jeff. Right. But Randy's process is different, but it does make drums. You have to be on it.

It sucks. Will does it as well. Yeah. I think like just that whole, all of that little ecosystem do it like that. And I get it. It's easier for songwriting. It's easier to change stuff. But as a drummer, it's the most stressful shit on earth. Right.

Especially because you've got a set amount of time in the studio, usually. And then it's like, well, we've got three days left. Better get these drums out. You've got to be on your game. I've been sitting around all day eating sushi and Thai. For a month. Jeff was around for a month. like kind of watching us.

I mean, he's obviously involved, but, you know, I can't imagine like the anxiety buildup that happens when you're there watching everyone track guitar, do pre-pro, track guitars, track bass, track vocals, and then it's like, finally, and now I have five days, you know. Track, and sometimes write an insane part

that you're like, why I don't have time to practice this? Except that little fucking shit practice kit that sometimes they put up. Right, he did practice, but yeah. Do you go to Randy with bare bones? Do you go with full songs? Do you do like a pregame? We sometimes go to Will for like halfway through this album cycle, we'll go to Will for like a writing weekend and have

demos. How does Dyn Wish write a song? We did that twice. So we tracked torn from your silhouette and did we track it? We wrote torn from your silhouette and pre-proed, I don't even know. There were a few songs that didn't make the record in a week for a week in July of last year. And then we

went on the zombie tour and then we played Furnace Fest. And then in between Furnace Fest and Europe, we went back to the studio for like another five or six days to write more. And we'd been so busy that I know

Sam, Sam writes everything with Randy instrumentally wise. And how to and that's in the sessions. In studio. Yeah. Because we were so busy that there was no way Sam was going to be able to really write

outside of it because we were on tour just constantly. But that's we pretty, they pretty much wrote everything there with Randy. And lyrically, I write a majority of the stuff in studio, but we did a lot of

preparation prehand. just like kind of mapping out, like, what it is we wanted to talk about, what we wanted the vibe to be, because Pedro and I write lyrics together. Because, you know, it's pretty obvious what songs are Emma songs and what songs are P songs, you know, like Lost in the Fall, like those, uh, Pat to your Grave, you know, all of those more emotional songs are very me driven and then, um, like, pray for me. I was so gas. That was the last song we did.

And I was like, P, I just need some words for you. I want, because he does, he, he trains Moitai and makes martial arts. Yeah. I'm scared of that man. Yeah. He definitely, he's a little scary. But he, I was like, Pete, I just need a, I just need a, like a bunch of words of something you'd want to hear right before you enter the cage to go fight someone. And that's where we got pray for me.

And then the, and then musically, it matches up. with that. Does he like fight? Yeah. He has a fight this month, I think. It's fucking awesome. I feel so bad on that zombie tour. Someone hit me up out of the blue. You remember this. Like, I don't, I like to go watch sports or whatever, but I don't stay invested. Someone hit me up and was like, oh, the UFC's around the corner from the venue. We're in Salt Lake. Salt Lake, yeah. I've got two tickets. Do you want them? And I was like, yeah, I'll definitely take P. And it was one of those stupid ticket master like to transfer. the ticket you have to give it.

It was so annoying. We ended up fucking it and neither of us could go. I ended up fucking it and he was so stoked to go. Yeah. Fucked up. So annoying. But he didn't kick my ass. No.

We got away with it. Right. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. No, he actually has a black eye in the videos that we, in the videos we did. I think you can tell in Watch My Promise Die because we did all four of those videos in four days. you can tell him

Watch My Promise Die there's like this shot in like the first minute where he's just like up against his white background and it like zooms in on his face he's got a black eye because he was in a fight

with someone who like I think like does matches professionally and he was like yeah I got a black eye but he didn't kill me so well good for him

Watch my promise die is that the one with the red the red dress how was that video that's like a cool, it's almost like glam. Yeah. My brain going, don't get canceled, don't get canceled, don't get canceled. It's quite glam.

Yeah. That whole thing, all of those videos were so fun because like I, and we've talked about this, maybe, I have a pretty fair amount of gender dysmorphia. And it kind of takes a lot for me to be like, okay, like, if I want to dress feminine, I have to like really own it. Yeah. And so I was like, I'm just going to go full on. And Amani and Beth and I went to this place called the showroom in Nashville where Beth,

she manages a country artist named Alexander Kay. And they got her Grammy dress there. And I was like, that's the level I want to be on. You know, I want to like, I'm like a little, you know, more reserved when it comes to looks and stuff because I don't really want to be. the hot girl in the band that's not who we are that's not who I am but

like I do kind of want to it's I'm totally contradicting myself but I do kind of want to be able to own this icon whatever I am I just like I'm still kind of figuring it out but so I thought that was fun like all of the videos I was able to like

really kind of curate a look with Lauren who did my makeup and my hair dream team totally love with her but yeah dragon neck and laura dream team if anyone doesn't know some of the names we talked about with randy we did

most of the names emma is saying of people in our band dragon neck is anthony altamura from straight from the path plays bass does our videos does your videos does everyone's he's the randy of video tom williams is the guitarist of stray from the path who manages thine wish correct we are very incestuous

as like two bands which is cool though because i hope it gets tour again Yeah, me too. Yeah, let's run back zombie. Yeah, I have fears, though, that your band's going to get incredibly big, and it'll be reversed lineup. I don't know about that. Your band's fucked, Jeremy.

No, they're on an upswing. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Fuck, I had things to say. You said gender dysmorphia. What, you are she they? Yeah. Are they, they, they then?

Eh, I don't really care. Don't care? No. I don't really know. Was there a period where you were a she, they? I still am. You still are?

I have a lot. It's interesting. There are certain circles where people only call me they them. Yeah. And there are a lot of circles where people exclusively use she, and that's fine. The circles in which people use they them are mostly queer people. So, you know, that's always very validating. But I don't mind.

I do. I am feminine, you know, I am a woman. I just really kind of am always questioning gender and sexuality and society and all of that stuff and how I fit into all of that. And I mean, we did talk about, like, I mean, this was like two years ago. We did our last episode. Rejuice it if you won't. Yeah. Well, I just kind of like, at that point, I really wasn't owning my queerness fully, and now I really do.

And so at the time, like, I was, like, I was kind of afraid to, like, you know, fully open up and, like, have people, like, use different pronouns. But now I, like, really love it. And when I was working at this restaurant in Portland called D.C. Veg, everyone was queer. and so everyone referred to me as they and that was really cool but it doesn't really like matter to me I feel they're both pretty equally how I feel about myself

and I know people feel differently about their pronouns but what's the criteria and I'm just like half of me is playing dumb half of me is fucking dumb and then the other half of me is like I feel like especially podcasts

there's too much like dunking on, like, situations and stuff like this. It's too easy. And that's like they share a viral clip of it. And then the comments are all just like, back in my day and all this shit. So I'd like to be more educational about it.

But also because I want to know, but also because I'm done, but also because I'm like, I like dressing like a woman a lot. What's the criteria for queer? Is there a queerteria? I don't think so. I don't think so.

I don't think any... Like how would you explain that? Because back in the day, obviously I'm not asking as if you're like the fucking authority on it. Well, I'm your authority on other things. Actually, you're my authority on almost everything. But like back in the day,

that was a slang term, like a derogatory slang term for gay. At least in the UK. Oh, yeah. You didn't know that? It is, yeah. It was. Reclamed, I guess.

Queer, yeah, was definitely. It had a harshness to it, almost like the C word, but, you know. You know what, though? Women can say the C word. They can reclaim that. And drag queens can say the C word. They say the C word so much. So basically, how do I get away with saying the C word?

Antifa. Is there exactly? It's been a while. Twitch, give me some more money so I can do it. But no, you know why I stopped? You know what I stopped? No. I fucking loved doing it.

If anyone doesn't know, like, I did a drag thing for a while in the pandemic. It was awesome. Thank you. Because I loved, I love RuPaul's Drag Race. And, but then I was doing it on Twitch. I was getting fucking paid, right? So I was like, at one point I went, oh, is this queer baiting? Like, is this me?

Is this going to look? Because they did it the first couple of times. And then I was like, I could just do this every month. And then it's like, am I profiting there from like, or at least will people think that, oh, he's just doing that to get money or whatever. Hmm. So that's why almost I was. Drag queens make money.

I know they do. But they're also almost always gay or bisexual. Yeah. I mean, anyone can do drag. I mean, where do I sit on that spectrum? I don't even know. Yeah. I understand that.

But anyone can do drag. Drag is more, it's like, the style. And actually, I was talking to Lauren about this. And she was like, I, she's also queer. And we bonded on that pretty quickly. But she was like, I want to dress up and drag. And I like, I want to, she said, I hope she doesn't get upset. I don't think she will.

She was like, I want so much lip filler that I want to look like a bimbo drag queen. And there's so many people that are like that. Yeah. And it's like drag is, you know, it's the, like, extraordinary style and the extraordinary makeup and it's the, it's the vogue and it's the sachet. Like, it's all of that. It's not really, it is so intertwined within queer community that has a lot to do with, you know, identity, but anyone can do it and be a part of it.

It's just like, you know, I think that people, um, I don't know. I don't know where I was going with that. But yeah. It's, are we in one of those states where it's illegal? Yes. Very.

Fucking insane. Yeah. Like a drag show is illegal. Or like, I can't remember what it was. I saw it. Is Florida one as well? Like,

that is fucking mental. I don't want to go too far into this depressing shit. Right. But like, that's more mental than last night. You can't say GD. Yeah. Because I can buy a gun right now.

At Glock store. Let's find out. Where's the nearest gun store? I found this on the web. There we go. Double guns of Nashville. I mean, I was going to shout them out, but... Point six.

Mm-hmm. Hey, Siri, where's the nearest drag show? No, Illinois. Really? Okay, so, wow, that's wild. They've really, really wiped it out. It's terrible. It is terrible.

Let's fucking move on. Because I've got funny stuff I want to talk about. Okay. Stop interrupting the podcast, Craig. I have to, okay? We've gone into agreement with these people based on me getting their stuff and going, this stuff's quite good. Do you want me to try and sell it to you to other people?

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But now I want to get into, last night you asked me a question, and I was like, let's save this talk. Oh, wait, while we're still on the sort of, you know, wanting to be an icon but not wanting to be an icon, gender stuff,

have you seen Barbie yet? Oh, God, it's the best movie ever. You're on board? Yep. Whole movie, you're on board for the whole movie? They lost me a little bit at the end. Why? Because they lost me at the end as well, but I am a cis white male, so I can't say it. You know, there was just a part where I was like, does this make sense?

And I was like, why am I even thinking that it's a movie and literally none of it makes sense? It's a movie. No offense. Not even, I was going to say designed for females, but it's not. It's a movie about the most famous girls' toy. So that's what my brain was going. At the end, I thought like, I loved it by the way. I loved it more than Oppenheim. I'll give, if sevens don't exist, Op, he's got a six and I'm getting getting roasted for that because everyone's like,

it's the best movie I've ever seen. It's like, I knew nuclear war was bad before I watched the movie. And it's like, the only way I could be, obviously it's at the acting is incredible. The directing is incredible. The plot is, you know, incredible. But like,

the, I can only see people being mind-blown if they were going into the movie like, fuck, nuclear warheads rock. Yeah. Let me watch this movie. And then they're like, wait a minute, that could be a bad thing. It's, yeah, I mean, we have been binge watching war movies because we talk about it so much on symptoms. And so I've been watching a lot of war movies recently. And this one, you know,

I liked the, they didn't demonize communism at all, and I enjoyed that. But it just kind of gave me whiplash between all the timelines a little bit. And also, you know, I'm like, this guy was pretty fully aware of what he was doing. And he's really responsible for actual, I mean, there are other people responsible, but we committed a severe war crime and I don't feel like it was really brought home to how devastating that was as much as it could have been I guess yeah I got the argument because there were people saying you know it could have shown more of the damage in Japan and stuff like that which there was a scene where I was like you know when he's like I don't want to

spoiler if you haven't seen it by now just fucking fuck you this is fucking what September there's a scene where he's like, the only scene where he really seems to show regret. And I was like, that is where you really could have shown some fucking, you know, horrible shit that it happened and it would have given more of a statement. But I came away with it like,

and I guess it is true to what, the American Prometheus, which was the book, in that, no one really knows how much he regretted it. But then in my head, I'm like, that doesn't make a good movie.

like you. Yeah. You should have had a little bit more regret. Anyway, that's gone Negi again. But Barbie. Real quick, though, on that. I really like to understand the main character, and I did not feel like I understood him at all.

And that was like, maybe that was intentional, but I was like, I don't know if I can, like, really connect with this character. I had no empathy for him at all. You know, one thing I did really like, and I love Chris Vamona, so it's not surprising, but the thing when he's remembering the Indian Sanskrit stuff, like in real life he said,

he thought of the line, now I am become death, destroyer of world. Moving that from his post-war speech into a sex scene was fucking awesome. I loved that. You shook your head. Are you shaking your head? Are you just about to?

I didn't know where you're going. with that, but then I thought about that scene with Florence Puteopolis and I'm like, oh yeah. You said it not me. Oh man. Wow. Yeah. But last thing on the Barbie thing. Barbies not even on my fucking notes, but like I thought, and it'd be interesting to get a female perspective on whether or not.

Like the whole movie, you know when like Ken goes to the real world or whatever. And he's like, this is awesome and shit. And Barbie's like, this sucks. I thought it was cool because they were like, they were showing like, at the beginning it was a well run by women and the Ken's weren't having any fun. And then Ken goes and then to the real world where women aren't having any fun. And then I was like, you're going to bring this home in a minute? Like, we have an imbalance society. We're going to balance it up and everyone's going to be nice and that's how we do it.

But then it went like turbo at the end of like Ken's still a little dame. dog man and all this shit and I was like oh but I get it yeah I get it it's for empowering yeah little girls I imagine maybe hopefully yeah and I think that it was just a really interesting take on society kind of flipped on its head made you it was pretty challenging thought wise someone someone told me because what I said had that I mean this is kind of sex isn't itself I've had this conversation with every woman I know uh her but like someone's told me recently it was like if you look really hard in the last scenes when it is wrapping up all the stuff in the house where it was oh you knew this as well i didn't fucking amani was there she

was it was it was immani yes of course it was shout out mahony yeah all the stuff in the house is ken and barbies i'm a dumb idiot magnify that on screen for me because that's going to give me it might push it to a nine i love an easter egg or like those little details though yeah but i'm so dumb i love it when i get it at the movie and not when I go home in Wikipedia and go, oh, and then pretend I knew. Yeah.

Fuck me, we haven't even done the artwork thing. Okay. Or the other thing that I want to talk about, so we're going to have to do that. Okay. Got anything else you want to say about the record? It's really good.

Thank you. I love it. Pre-order it, guys. It's fucking awesome. The mix is really great. That was the other thing on fragments. I'm trying so hard to not be like, of the mix.

I didn't think it ruined it, but the mix wasn't great guy, but then the last four episodes in the row, I've talked about the mix not being great on something. Not that it wasn't great on fragments, but I think it's more mature on this one and more accessible. You slap that on the radio with that mix.

Yeah. We didn't really, I mean, there was subtle changes we made, but our notes list was very short for Randy on this record. Fragments kind of had that, still had that, like, 2003, sorry to be drummy, but like that 2003 snare drum, which I loved in 2003.

Mm-hmm. But I don't think you'll reach the dizzying heights of, that you could with that kind of snare drum, which kind of sucks, but, you know, let's be fun. Let's do it. You got an idea for a dumb artwork that we can sell? I got a couple. well, so originally the first thing we thought of, because we did mention this in the group chat very briefly,

and I was like, what if we did the bowl, but just like demolishing the rest of us? I know, I thought it was funny, but then I was like, it's really niche. Another thing I was thinking is, very like apocalyptic. Yeah, I'm on board. Yeah, like there's kind of like different like ideas of the world ending like

title wave. We talk about it in one of the songs. It has to be dumb though. It has to be dumb. It has to be dumb. You've got good artwork that's about the album. It has to be fucking dumb. The last one was a weed monster.

The one before that was my dog as a surgeon. What about? I'm like, I don't know. Can I tell you what I have, what I have planned? And, you know, my track record of selling out these things. It's pretty fucking good. Let's go. And this is the level of thumb.

So have you ever seen, I'll tell you this bit afterwards. So all I do when I do this, the Voidivision one, they said it's called Chronicles. And I went, ha, ha, ha, the word chronic is in the word chronicles. Ha, ha, weed. Right. So your one, I've got a few ideas. symptoms of survival I thought a survival

I thought you know what it's cool is the last of us yes seen the last of us a clicker yeah it's obviously got it's going to be death metal style

a clicker because they look cool already have you ever seen the all shall perish artwork the price of existence I'd have to look at it it's like a weird fucking mangled thing eye on the front.

So a clicker. And then I was like, yeah, but how do we make it dying wish? And I was like... Wait, what is a clicker? A clicker is the thing from the mushroom head, like scary things from the last of us. Have you seen the last of us? Yes. You heard about this?

I didn't know that's what it was called. Okay, got it. Not a big gamer. Me neither. We did buy it, but I haven't played it. Yeah, I played it and it got really hard. I mean, I'm just going to watch the show. I don't have to do anything here.

So then I thought, right, well, how do we make it dying wish? And I thought, what if the clicker is fighting the genie from Aladdin coming out of his, what is it, what's it called? Bottle? Is it a bottle in Aladdin? I thought it's a lamp. It's a lamp. Sorry, I was thinking, I'm a genie in a bottle, baby.

Wait, why did she say bottle? I don't know. bottle. Yeah, I'm saying bottle. There's no tease, motherfuckers. I thought we could do that. Or even just the clickers coming out of a lamp, because then it's like dying wish. And then what did you say? Give me some other buzz. Give me some buzz words from the album. You said war. That's not very funny. War. P-P fighting could be fine. We could slap a bull in there. I reckon we could slap a bull in there. A bull. Okay.

Because by this point, they now know the bull story. Originally, I'm like, you know, it's sending the bull because Jeff, the bull isn't public knowledge but guess the fuck what? It is now. It is now. Fully established. What if we combine?

Because obviously there's a budget here that's not insane. So we combine the bull. The clicker is just the survival. The word survival is just, oh, I just went there. And I think that's, you know, as long as we can get away with it, and not being arrested. Not arrested. What's that copyright shit?

Seasoned assist. Yeah, I reckon we don't touch Disney, though. Everyone I know that's got a bootlegger thing, the minute they touch fucking hocus pocus, you are fucking down. It's out. Some sort of fighting, maybe fighting a bull.

I mean, in itself, I just got to be funnier. Who's got pets? You got any pets? I have a cat. How cool is this cat? He's the best. He's an orange,

orange cat, Max. Psycho. The rest of the guys don't have cats. How long we have this cat for? Since we moved here, so three months. That is a new cat. We're still on the honeymoon phase. Is that enough time to know if you really want it to be committed to art?

But cat is funny. Cat can be real funny. We have kind of a running bit. This is going to sound really bad if you don't know us, but we have a running bit about Jeff's dead dog Brutus. Wow. Who wore a diaper in the last few years of this. life. It's not funny.

How is it a running bit? It's just anything bad happens. Jeff goes, oh, Brutus. You'd have to be there. It's one of those things. What's the dog? What's the diaper? No. This is it. We got it. We got it. We got it. There we go. We got that. It's a bull in the diaper.

A bull in a diaper. A bull in the diaper. The clicker. The clicker and the bull. We can't do Jeannie because it's Aladdin or? Yeah, but we can. use the lamp. Lamp, okay. I think a bottle would be two.

People are, why the fuck is there a bottle there? Yeah. So the clicker and a bull. Oh, got it. Got it. I fucking got it. It's done. This is it.

What are the people that do the bull fighting? No, you know, they got the red thing. We don't like it. No, what's it called? What is it called? Amatador. a matth door right yes but the matth door is a clicker the bull's got a diaper on

and the whole yeah that's it and the whole scene is like appearing from a lamp yep absolutely locked in shake on that do you want to talk conspiracy theories because you asked me yesterday what's your conspiracy theory that is most believed what your what is it

give me the question again What is your, what is like your favorite conspiracy? It could be... No, I thought you said it was the wildest one that you actually believe. Oh. Oh, well... It's your question. What do you want the question to be?

And you want to ask me first? Like, what is your most, like, unbelievable conspiracy that you actually do believe? Okay, I've got it. JFK. What about him? That his head just did that. He just imploded. I planned that joke last night and you set me up there like perfect.

That was absolutely perfect. Because you asked me and I had to go for a piss and then I was thinking, what's a funny thing I could reply to that? And I said, think of conspiracies, JFK. And I was like, yeah, maybe I just did that. Anyway, I hope that got a pop at home. I don't really have one, but I want yours because you started to tell me it yesterday. Oh, well, here's the thing though.

I don't really know what to believe. but I just know I have some ideas about what could be happening with Britney Spears there are some people that... Hit me, baby.

I'm sorry, go, go, go, go. I didn't give you the proper space for that. No, because I was trying to shoehorn it in. Yeah. It's fine, go. Well, there are people that believe she's been dead since like 2011, but I don't know if I necessarily believe that.

I know that she... Why does she? they believe that? Because it would just kind of make sense that they are just continuing her likeness to make money off of her

if she actually was dead. And that would explain why she's so bizarre. Black mirror. It's, oh my God, the whole Britney thing is so black mirror. So, okay, this

is where my two worlds collide, right? because my best friend Haley, who I believe you've met in Portland when we did our margarita, she got me really into it. And I'm not on TikTok, but I downloaded TikTok for this purpose. So my entire feed was just Brittany.

Brainwashing. I downloaded TikTok to be brainwashed. I did. Well, I just think it's really fascinating. So we are really into NBA. And the number one draft pick, Victor Wenbagnana, he, Wemba Nama, I don't, I'm bad with names, but he...

I don't even know what NBA is, so carry on. Basketball. I do know that. Sorry. Sorry, carry on. He was seen, there is a video of the back of Britney's head. It's the first time she's popped up in press because she never leaves her house. Nobody ever sees her out in public.

Her whole wedding is CGIed. Like, there's proof. Wait, her wedding is actually CGI. Yeah, there's this... That's not the conspiracy. That's true. It has to be. They're standing in front of a green screen with Brittany and Madonna and who else,

Drew Barrymore. And there's parts of hair and hands that disappear into the background as if it's in front of a green screen and it's all just being played. I can't believe. I thought you'd seen this. No, is it a video or a... Yeah. There's one on YouTube and there are like, there's explanations for it. And so I started to get into the AI and the digital.

and the deep faking. And one of the things that people notice most about Britney is her teeth, right? Her teeth are not normal. And she's got the gap. Maybe she could have been wearing veneers or whatever, but if she is so mentally far gone that she no longer cares about her appearance, like Britney was a beautiful girl. And, you know, maybe we saw it with the whole head shave thing.

Anyways, my point is you see there are videos where she does. doesn't have any bottom teeth at all. I'm looking at one right now. No bottom teeth. And then I read into the explanation behind it, deep faking and AI artificial intelligence has many weak spots, and that is hair, hands, and teeth. And there are parts where you cannot see her bottom teeth. For anyone who thinks I'm a complete psychopath right now, fair enough. No, I'm watching the video.

If Simon could put one of those videos up, that looks. crazy. Yeah. And so it has like her, there's sometimes where you see teeth and there's sometimes where it just, her bottom, it just looks like bottom lip and gum. And it's because it has such a hard time, like artificial intelligence has such a hard time replicating that. Another thing.

Eyeing. Eyeing. Being eye. I. Aye. Yeah. I. I.

She also is southern. There's no southern accent. But to get back to the Victor Wenbignon thing. she has not been in the public eye in years she's not ever seen out in public then suddenly the hottest draft star that we've seen it for maybe a decade in you know he's like they're like oh he's going to be like the most versatile best player in the NBA of all time is what they're expecting from this French guy better than Jordan they're saying I don't know I'm available for Jordan playing me sorry carry on

but yeah so she's seen and apparently she went up to go say hello to victor my mania there's a video of her from the back you don't really see her face it's from far away there's no other like accounts of people taking videos and it's like if people saw brittany they would film it but there's no other evidence except for this one and it just lands in a place on TMZ very randomly apparently his security guard punched her in the face yeah that's a video i have seen yeah it's just strange why would that have that happen? What's the agenda there? Just, I don't know, plant her with someone who's like very obscurely in the media like Victor Wambignana and, you know, kind of just like, why was Madonna

at her wedding? Why was Drew Barrymore at her wedding? Like, she doesn't... When was this wedding? Oh, I... Like 10 years ago or like fucking last week? No, like recently. Like a year, I think it was within the last year or just around a year ago. Madonna? be looking kind of AI. Oh, yeah. Well, there's theories that I don't, I don't believe in the whole adrenochrome thing. You got more, you got more for me.

I don't believe in the adrenochrome thing necessarily, but she's definitely on some crazy wealthy, like stuff. I still would. Same. Sick. Am I allowed to say that? Yeah. Yeah, I can say, I don't know what.

Thank you for asking. That's fine. I asked afterwards. Otherwise, you wouldn't have known. Oh, God. So that's your. I mean, I can see it in your eyes that you truly do believe that and you are brainwashed by TikTok. That's fine.

Did she say anything about the, like, about the getting punched? Because obviously, why wouldn't you come out and be like, I got punched? It was horrible. I think she, like, made a statement on Twitter, but I haven't seen, like, a video of her addressing it. I don't think. Have you seen the Black Mirror episode, episode one from the news season? It's literally what you're explaining, the AI shit. Oh, yeah.

With the Netflix? Yeah. Freaky. So cool. And then I watched it and I was like, oh my God, we're like a month away from this happening. That's what part of that writer is,

the actor strikers, in what they want their terms to be is, you cannot use my likeness. Mm-hmm. But then, I mean, I agree with that. And it is fucking dystopian and horrible.

No, I just agree with them doing that. I was going to say, but like, if you're an old actor, you could be like, no, I don't agree with it.

Like Carrie Fisher. Amani and I were having this conversation. What was? Carrie Fisher died and then they used her likeness in the newer Star Wars films. Did they? Yes. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah.

Who okayed that though? I wonder, I'm asking, like, you know, like. I don't. Who, I wonder if, like, her family got paid or something, you would hope. Maybe, I hope so. Her mom died three years after she, or three days after she did. They said she died of a broken heart. Oh, that's sad.

Yeah. However, that's the way I want to go. It's so romantic. Yeah. I told Jeremy we have to go out like the notebook at the same time. Oh, yeah. The notebook is horrific as a movie. The end of the notebook, cried my fucking brains out.

Brutal. There was in Reading where I'm from, Reading, England. Shout out, Reading England. There was a couple, right? This is really cute and really dark. There was a couple who, one of them, they're like an older couple. One of them... got terminal cancer and they rented or they rented a room in the most expensive hotel,

the penthouse hotel in the Forbury Hotel in Reading. And they have one massive blowout last night because she was terminal and he wasn't, but he didn't want to live without her. And they had one crazy last night and then just both pieced and left a note and that pounding their kid was, I think, I hope I'm not butchering that apparently their kid was okay with it because they knew that they loved each other so much.

I'm going to cry talking about it. Buried The Last of Us. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Scary. Ugh. Yeah.

We've done so much talking. How are we doing? We're doing pretty good. Okay. So I don't really have a conspiracy. No? I haven't really got one. How do you feel about 9-11?

Real off some kids. Conspiracy saw me. I don't want to talk about music again. 9-11. The moon landing was fake. There is a very, very, I think, backed up conspiracy that OJ's son is the one that killed Nicole Simpson. Really?

Yes. What's the grounds there? So there's a guy who wrote a book about it. Not OJ's book, which was called I Did It. It literally was. Really? Literally called I did it. I haven't read that.

and it was obviously a bestseller immediately. Yeah. Well, so he had a son before he had, I think he had two kids with Nicole Simpson. And then he was, he had an affair with his son's, or while he was married to his son's mom, he had an affair with Nicole.

So he left his mom, had two other kids, kind of like very this like whole, you know, left out thing. And, And he had a lot of mental illness, I think maybe because of that. But he had a violent criminal record. And it actually, the day after Nicole Simpson died, O.J. hired, I think it was the person

who wrote this book, I could be wrong, to represent his son because he thought his son did it. And, you know, there's a whole glove thing. Yeah. Have you watched the Kubigate? I know, he's canceled, but the American crime story about it. Yes. So sick. It's really well done.

Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. The glove? We got the glove? The glove? The murder weapon. What's the murder weapon one?

A knife. It was a knife. But what's the conspiracy there? Oh, well, it was apparently, I'll fast track to the end. It was apparently found in O.J. Simpson's son's garage years after the case had been closed. and the guy who wrote this book brought all of this evidence to other criminal investigators and they went to go present it to the LAPD and they basically said, no, we don't want to reopen the case.

Apparently you can't. America, one of your crazy fucking rules is if you've been found innocent for something, you can't be retried, isn't it? Crazy. Yeah. Unless there is a new, like a new, is that true? New evidence? Like outstanding new evidence?

I don't know. I think in America, if you've been tried for it, and that's why they always, like in courtroom dramas and stuff, they try and push it so they can get all of the evidence in and stuff comes after the, you know, it's always like, why did you give this to me now? The courtrooms tomorrow, we can't get this processed, and then they have to figure something out because otherwise you just, you know.

I think you're right, actually. What's the not? Double jeopardy, like the show. Mm-hmm. I was going to say something about the show about I don't even know I just know it's a show back rest in peace Is he dead? Yeah

Didn't know you bro but rest in peace It was a nice guy What's I mean might as well talk about 9-11 a little bit We already Already made some off-color jokes about it earlier The 9-11 one Is obviously Fucked up

Like I read into that one the stuff about like what's it called the there was a like a document written up about it's called like something for the new american revolution or something not the unibom of fucking manuscript because i think that's what i just said but it was a bit of like a government like how do we enforce all of these laws and then in it in the actual bit it's like in 1999s before pre-9-11, I'm butchering this. But in it, they say the only way that the public will agree to these new measures and stuff is if there is another Pearl Harbor.

And it says it in the fucking document that you can look on the Internet. And then two years later. And it even lists the countries that they wanted out and they wanted the relations to be soured with in the thing. like we would need to get rid of these countries in terms of this we'd need our own power harbor and then two years later boom quite literally boom is that the conspiracy that you're thinking about or are you like

are you on the planes didn't hit the building no they did but there was explosions inside the building that were that came from somewhere else there had to be jet mill jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams there's that whole debate Yeah. Free fall. But the free fall one, I'm a bit skeptical on because, like, I think there is an argument that if a building, actually, I don't know. The argument is if a building's on fire, then it could spread to other buildings. So the best thing to do is blow it up at the bottom to get the whole building gone safely instead of it doing whatever.

But those things were built to not fall. fall over or be melted. Right. So there's a whole thing there. And you can see in the footage detonations happening prior to the free fall. And there is evidence that there was all of this like elevator maintenance that had ties to Bush

in the World Trade Center. And there was the all of the fight, pilots were on a training thing on that day for that exact situation, I forgot about that bit. And so a bunch of them just thought it was part of the training. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you can hear in the transcripts and everything, they're like, wait, this is real, this is not a drill because that makes sense. They must have been prepared for a drill.

Fuck. Absolutely nice. What if, though, there is no conspiracy. all of the like extra detonations were people that, I mean, this is horrible with most of the people, probably dead, um, were just people that were like,

yeah, fuck this place. And then they just wrecked it from the inside. I fucking hate this office. And they're just like smashing things and saying shit on fire. Wow. I mean, that was absolutely dark.

Really fucking dark. But right. But. And obviously it's a fucking tragedy. Even if it was an inside job, it was a fucking tragedy and so many people died. Yeah. It's terrorism either way.

Right. So many people died all over the world because of it. But how long until you can make a joke about stuff? I'm not making a joke, but like 9-11 seems to be the only thing where it's like, 9-11 is the C word. Like, you can't, you still can't do it. And it was 20, fucking two years ago. Like for permission?

No, I already made at least two. So I'm fucking out regardless. But like, because I was thinking about this the other day because not to be hyping up American crime story so much, but like, have you seen the Versace one? Mm-hmm. Unbelievable. And I just, fuck, I was super interested in all that shit anyway.

But, like, I was thinking about the M&M lyric about Versacee, you know, the really homophobic one. Do you know it? Hey, it's me, Versacee. Whoops, somebody shot me when I was just, check in the mail get it checking the mail and the Versace you died in I think 1999 and that song came out in 2001 that is a short turnaround on a joke about a tragedy yeah but 9-11 it's been 22 years 22 years no jokes coming up there's actually one joke

I've seen one joke and I mean he's dead so he can't get the fallout the normal McDonald's 9-11 joke. Have you seen... What is it? You know, Norm MacDonald? I don't know. Old comedian. He was in, like, dirty work and stuff like that.

Like, I think he was on SNL? The old guy, Jeremy in the room remembers. So... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. So he basically, he was on... I think he had a podcast and he was just talking... He's dead now, rest in peace, because he was fucking...

He was... talking he's talking about something and someone next to him makes a 9-11 joke and it's the cleverest like not even like not even a funny one like kind of probably a little bit offensive one and norm mcdonald goes don't you can't don't make a joke about an atrocity like 9-11 i was up through the streets searching for my brother through smoke and debris He was in Northern Canada. Like, and I was just like, like, as in like he's just like, it was just a perfect joke.

But that's the only one I've heard. Hmm. I'm trying to build one now, but I think I've already made one. I think I'm out on it. I've seen like, you know, the, this is my 9-11s. That's a funny bit. Have you seen those? No.

Oh, I do like, I feel like memes, memes have been hitting it. Meme culture is, has been joking about 9-11 for a while. Yeah. Yeah. I think we're going to have to get off 9-11 because I'm going to go into some really funny memes. Anyway,

okay. RIP to everyone involved all over the world. I do actually think it is oft overlooked that the fallout of 9-11 killed many people in other countries.

And didn't stabilize anything. Yep, it's all worse. Going depressing again. No, no, no, no, no, no. Speaking of memes last night, I just had a real meme, I had a meat. What were you laughing at?

My meme moment. Yeah. What are you actually laughing about? The sauce. Yeah. Last night I came home. I fucking love memes. I was sat where you were sat right there.

Pissed out my brain. And I just, I actually leave on now. I don't use TikTok. I don't, I know there's a lot of funny shit on there, but for some reason my TikTok like Explore page is not shit I want to see. My Instagram explore page, however. Funny, babes, sneakers. but like I leave my you know it pops up in Instagram like recommendations and you can choose to

turn them off I've been leaving them on and I'm just getting all these funny things and I found found a new favorite meme page yesterday I'm a shout out this meme page because it's that funny I need to know and I just sat there because actually what I love about a meme page when they have like 50, 60,000 followers and then I follow them and then they follow me back I'm like why you follow me back meme page. It's called Dick Chimney. Awesome. V2. And the picture, I believe, is Dick Cheney looking like a cartoon. V2. You know what that means? First one. Had a 9-11 joke. Maybe or snuff video.

Oh, they do often go down there. But, like, I sat where you were sat just there, and I was just howling, literally howling. Mm-hmm. I can't even, I reckon this one could be played via audio. Oh. Do it. Simon can just pop this up. Simon, I'm going to play it via audio, but in the video. if we could just have the video of it, but for the audio people, we'll have that in.

Do you want a vape edit? Oh, you can put it in. Leave it in. That catch was awesome. It was really, really good. Jeremy just threw a vapeer, Emma, and she caught it. Like, NFL, what one does the catching? Receiver.

A receiver. Jeremy's laughing because how could you not know that? we like sports in this household okay you ready yes this is the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen sauce yeah you're right it's sauce

yeah you're right it's cheese the fact we need to put the video up because it's just like looking gormlessly at the camera do you have to word gormless here no oh there's a there's a vocab thing

yesterday's vocab was tumessence right gormless it's a very UK word I'm going to pop up the thing anyway he's looking gormless at the camera and looks like he really wants to guess it like I don't even remember what it was sauce

that's right cheese no he looks cooked yeah gormless lacking sense or initiative are constantly grinning rather gormless boy is gormless a British word yet is informal British I ain't got anything now

I got nothing I mean we're good on time we've got um I did your top five artists of all time last time So we can't really do that And I'm sort of struggling at the end Sort of struggling at the end of the podcast It's not even that Born out of when people come and they think it's going to be press

And I want to do something different I like did a dream festival thing I did top fives People fucking People hated both of them Separately Dream festival's cool But

Yeah You don't want to do it I can do it I can do it reel it off real quick. And I'll just quick fire. Okay. What country?

You weren't ready for that, were you? America. You'd have it in America? Yeah. Why? I don't really want to go to Europe. It's, I like Europe, but shows for us here. I'm just imagining we're going to play the stream festival.

You have to, that's the only rule. You do know other countries exist. I do, yeah. I'll take America. Where? I've always enjoyed playing in Canada, too. but um um um California or Florida Florida I take it back I love California but Florida

Tampa fuck yeah I'm a Tampa guy yep you know why because we're going to the castle after what castle the castle it's a goth club and Tampa I've heard so much about it I tried to go last time yeah no one would go with me it's like pretty notorious it's really cool It's really cool. Okay, so this is kind of a funny story. I did a piggyback ride race with my friends outside, and even though I was the smallest person,

I thought that I could carry someone on my back and run fastest and win. And it's a cobblestone street. So they're like, three, two, one, go. And I start running, just taking off. I made it like maybe five steps. me and the person on my shoulders just fell and skid in front of the entire line of people, which was probably 100 people at the castle.

100 goths. 100 goths. And people that were at the show. Historically quite forgiving, though, got got goths. I don't think you would have got laughed at that much. Honestly, I laughed it off. It was hilarious. You know what?

Like, nobody can make fun of you if you make fun of yourself first. I think. That's my whole thing. Yeah. Self deprecation. Okay, so what? You want the festival at the castle? You want that to be post-castle?

Somewhere outside in E-Bore City. E-Bore. That's a nice word to say American. That's where all the roosts. That's where castle is where all the roosters are. Is that I-B-O-R? Y-B-O-R. Why?

E-B-B-B-R. E-B-B-R. Sorry, sometimes that happens. Okay. Who is going to know, before we even get there. What would your dream catering be? Catering? You've got a fave? It doesn't have to be in Florida. It's all, all vegan. In the morning, there is a lovely lady who is ready to make just egg omelets. All you can eat like continental breakfast style. Just egg is a fake egg. It is. It's vegan.

It's just eggs. Yes. I was like, what? It's, I think it's made out a mung bean. Now munging. Do you guys have that word? What is it? Mung. Mung. Mung. Mung. Slang.

I've got to check that I can fucking say it. If it means what I think it. Munging. Slang. Yeah. To suck the fetid juices out of a corpse. Jesus. Sort of the necrophiliac version of felching.

You know what felching. That doesn't sound very vegan to me. You know what felching is. Felching. Yeah. Now. I'm going to have to pull up felching now. Jesus Christ.

Felching. Urban Dictionary. Let's have a little look. When someone ejaculates into anus and then sucks out their own cum. Whatever makes you happy. So it's made out of that. Yeah. Anyway, okay.

Omelets. And then what? Um, for lunch or like, okay, so normally like, okay, lunch is, um, like a sushi bar, like a sushi. Vegan sushi sucks. No, you got to go to blue sushi here. Maybe we should get that later for dinner. I've been. You've been?

Oh, well, you hang out with Tom Williams. Is there one in Denver as well? Yes. Yes, I've been. But guess what? Not good? No. I had the Swimmy, Swims.

Oh, yeah. I didn't have the vegan stuff, so maybe I can't. I've had some... I haven't had, like, fake salmon, so I don't know. I mean, like, oh, fucking avocado roll. Come on. Can make that at home. It's rice and avocado.

What are they making out of? Felch. Mung. They make it out of mong. So, but, okay, well, for your sake, for anyone's sake, selfishly, I will allow options for everybody. I'll take them. No, I'll eat the vegan stuff.

I'll eat the vegan stuff. Conveyor belt. Go. Yeah. For lunch. Nice. For dinner. Dinner.

New York-style Sicilian pizza. I love a vegan pizza. I'm a big cheese fucks up. My sinuses everything fucks my sinuses up. Interesting. Cheese fucks my sinuses up like nothing else. To the point where I don't really eat cheese now. Why are you laughing?

Sauce. The meme, the meme. Sauce, cheese. No. Anyway, yeah, I love. a vegan pizza? Have you got a specific vegan pizza place that you like? I think there's one in Brooklyn not far from St. Vitus called J's. I don't think I've been. I've been to St. Bitis, but I haven't been to the pizza place.

You know? You ever been to Pureza in London? No. That's your fucking spot next one. I've only been to London once. And I eat McDonald's. Next time. And Burger King.

Jesus fucking cry. You get that anywhere. Pureza. Shout out Pureza is fucking amazing vegan pizza. Okay. I'll take it. over a normal pizza every day of the week. You know what I do love is Vapiano. Big VAPS fan. Yep.

So good. Actually, that could be part of a dream festival as catering by Vapiano. I think it would be in mind. A lot of people, when you speak to German people about Vapiano, they like, they were like, I can't believe you eat there. Like, I can't remember who, it was someone that was really punk. It was like, I can't believe you guys eating Vapiano. I was like, what are you going to tell me about, like, the CEO fucking dogs or something?

And it was just like, their food hygiene standards are really low. I'm like, I don't give a fuck about that. Yeah, I'm from America. Yeah, I get the shits from all the chilies that I put on there. Like, it's going, who knows which bit made me ill. Right. Okay, you've got your pizza. You got your food.

Okay. Who's a headliner? And where, what time are Dying Wish playing? Dying Wish plays at 4 o'clock, sweet spot, you know, doors at noon. We play at 4. You think four was the sweet spot? Four or five afternoon. You know, still, well, you know, I want.

Okay, you're right. Your body's fucking bigger by now. Sunset. There it is. So that by the end of the show, the light show is the first real light show you see all day and it's awesome. Straight from the path just did a festival run and we got almost all those lineups. Yeah. A couple of mornings, but like a 7 p.m.

Or even like an 8 p.m. And then just by the end, sunset. BDS. Beautiful. Big dick shit. BDE. BDE. Here's a thing.

I don't know if I heard this somewhere else or I was, I had a brief time. I was going to try and start this. Like BDE, big dick energy, right? Mm-hmm. And I was like, why isn't there a female equivalent? But I know that females can have BDE because it's a state of mind. It is. It's mentality.

But then, I don't know if I can say it. It might. I'm going to say it. And fucking, just say it. If someone's got this far, they're determined to cancel me anyway. Don't worry if it's not okay. I'll let you know. Because men could have this too.

Warm pussy energy. Hmm, I don't like that. Okay. It's fine. It's fine. It's absolutely fine. I was trying to think of the equivalent because, like, you don't want a soft dick. That's why that works.

Right. I mean, big, big doesn't even mean hard, does it? Okay, I've fucked out. I just meant you don't want to. Wait, am I not like, am I not? allowed to say the P word. No, you can. It's fine. No, your I said no. No, I really don't, I don't have a problem with it. I've been told off that before. You've been told off for it? Yeah, for saying pussy. Come on. It's 2023. It's not hurting anybody. The way the person's,

I wasn't, I was calling, yeah, I wasn't, yeah, I wasn't being stupid, but she said it. Let me tell you the reverse cancellation that would have happened so hard, had this been like a public exchange? She said, that is our word. And I went, that kind of sounds like you're equating that to something else. I could double, double fucking cancelled, cancel Uno Reverso, boom. Anyway, take that thing I said about trying to make WPE a thing. I don't want to make it a thing.

Yeah, no. I don't know if there needs to be an equivalency. I don't really think that matters, I guess, you know? It doesn't because it is, big dick energy is gender neutral. I actually also saw people. Women have dicks too. Women do have dicks. Huge fan.

But like, there's also like, there was people, I saw people saying, it discriminates against people with small penises. Everyone's just trying to get everyone for everything. And I was like, no, but it's like, you can have a small dick and have big dick energy. Absolutely. It's a phrase. Yeah.

Guys. It's, I don't think it's, I don't think it's necessarily body shaming. I don't like to, like, when all of like the Trump stuff was happening and then like 2020, all of the, this is where I'm going to. show my Portland PC thing a little bit. This is where it comes in. This is where you're my barometer of these things. Yeah.

Well, I don't feel like I'm selective, but I guess it's okay for everyone to be offended by certain things and not by, you know, not everybody has to feel how I feel. Whatever. But during 2020, Black Lives Matter movements, there were people making comments about the cops having small dicks. And I was like, eh, I don't really feel like we should shame people because there might be people on our side too that maybe don't feel good about that, you know. But, yeah, again, that's my PC colors just showed a little bit. That's fine. And also, in case you are going to get

me anyone, I didn't want what I said to come across as fetishizing when I said big fan of girls with dicks, not fetishizing. We're just supporting. However, big fan. Who's headlining? Um, if I were to have a festival, it would be a mixed bill. That's absolutely fine. It's a dream. It's your, your dream situation. Cizza. Cissa has to headline.

Cizza, paramour, deaf tones. Yeah. It's nice. And it would be one day, just one day. One day first. Yeah. And afterwards you're going to the castle. You've done that.

Yep. catering's all done. Mm-hmm. Locked in. What about the? little, a band smaller than dying wish that you would like to give their flowers to, to come along and open it, that people should check out. That's what I'm getting out there.

Put you on the spot as well. It's bad, isn't it? There's a lot. You could give me a more, it could be a smaller stage. A smaller stage. I don't think military gun is smaller than dying wish, but I would want military gun on a festival. cruelty from Japan Um

Gates to Hell from Louisville Band's fucking sick Yeah Who else Give me one more and we can wrap it up One more Okay Band from Philadelphia

I think called Scareb Scarob Scarub Have you heard of them? I think I know what Scarab is But I've never heard of the band It's good. A beetle.

They're fairly new. They don't... What's the vibe? What do they sound like? I have one more too. Good. Just heavy, mean, hardcore music. It's Tyler Mullen, who used to sing in Year of the Knife, it's his new band.

Cool. Hands of God from the Bay Area. It's a cool band. Making their comeback, comeback show at the festival. There we go. That's it. Yep. Emma Boster.

Yay. Thanks for coming. on the downbeat. I hope it was okay. Yeah. Did you have fun? I had fun. Not even a little nervous after we said that we were nervous.

Was it the Mountain Dew though? Yes. Or was it the Monster Energy Ultra? It's pouring through my veins right now. If you thought that I was very sharp during this episode, it was the caffeine and the concentrated. I'm not actually sponsored by Monster, but give me some fucking money.

You blew it. Done eight episodes. You could have been on it. Sorry. I love you very much. Love you. Thank you so much. Very, we have toured.

together and now we are very close friends. I'd like to think I could come to you with any problems, as I often do. Please do. As I often do, can I do this? Can I say this? Thank you.

I appreciate you. I hope you'll come on again one day. Please. Anytime. Everyone check out Dying Wish. Pre-order the fucking vinyl, which will be out to pre-order now. And go to a Dying Wish show.

I'll find out, what tour is announced, I don't want to go through my phone right now, and it will have already been plugged at the beginning. Yes. Goodbye. Bye.