The Downbeat - Kublai Khan TX (Matt Honeycutt + Isaac Lamb)

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

My guests on the podcast this week are Matthew Honeycutt (vocals) and Isaac Lamb (drums) of Kublai Khan. We talk the decline of chipotle, living in a trailer, movies, and much more.

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I love Kubla Khan. They're my go-to. Every year they are in my top five. Every single year they're in my Spotify wrapped. unbelievable band super heavy super groovy if you're living under a rock

go check them out it's Isaac and Matt from Kubla Khan on the Downbeat podcast Isaac Matt we've been hanging out all day

so I'll pretend that we've just met yeah how are we good doing good doing good we've had a busy day

what we've been up to who would like to run down the day uh we rolled in super early. Drove around for 40 minutes trying to park downtown.

Got picked up by you. By me. Went to the gym. Went to the gym. There we go. Look at the state of those. Look at the camera. That's good.

For the podcast. Didn't even do Bicep. If you're just listening to this and you're missing out on some pythons right now. Yeah, we had a little train. Yeah. That's all Nando's.

Are we allowed to say that we had Nandoes? Because technically you missed. load-in, Fernandos. Yeah. I think it's okay. Tell them about the load-in. The only building in the whole city that doesn't have a fucking elevator. No, there's two. There's two venues on the same street, and the load-ins are just as bad.

Cat House and the classic grand, just stairs. So we skipped it. You skipped it. Yep. But you skipped it in the name of very good press. It's a press opportunity, you know, at the end of the day, really. I would much rather be doing this and doing that. I did it for you.

I fenessed it for you. Yeah. We got into the gym for free as well. Did everyone get a good workout in? Solid. Yeah. Good day. That's my, I need that when I'm on tour.

Like, what do you guys do on tour? Oh, look at that. Question straight away. I'm a professional. What did you do gym-wise on tour? When we're in the States, we've got a lot more time to kill. So a lot of times we'll go in the mornings just before we roll up for loading. But over here, we just haven't figured that out yet, I guess.

It kind of sucks here because the states, I assume, you're Planet Fitness. Yeah, just go to the Planet Fitness wherever, every day. Yeah. How much is Planet Fitness a month? Like $10. For four of us, I think it's $40. Yeah, because not all of us have, because I don't have it, but two of the other guys have it. Yeah, so we go in as a guest.

Yeah. Yeah. We do that usually by the first half of the tour, and then we fuck off. And then we get real shot. Yeah, we eat a lot of McDonald's. and drink a lot of soda. Yeah, but see, I don't, I don't care about that. Like, I eat, like, shit on tour.

You still need it? Yeah, because I need, I need the energy. If I'm going to the gym and I'm playing drums, give me the dog shit. I think it's also, you know, the later in the tour you get, the more you're staying up late, hanging out with the other bands,

you know, you start to get a lot tighter through the tour, spending more time with them, less time, just as a little solo group. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, even on the last one, because we went out with our, murder and you know kev he's big as a fucking house yeah and he's strong yeah he's he's he's crazy

bones man like the last half of the tour he'd walk by the fucking green room door with his bag and shit and he'd be like oh you go into the gym and be like yeah really don't want to but i'm gonna do it and i mean but honestly he's like you say that's what separates him from the whole rest of the planet that's why it looks like he does yeah yeah he could just fuck off the last two weeks but he doesn't. Yeah. I you don't you don't drink. No, I do. You do drink.

There's a lot to unpack from this that I want to go into. Most of it involving drinking and fast food. How do you find drinking on tour? Have you got a protocol? Because I've been, we've been talking in the gym about variables of what helps us play better, what helps us not play

better. I'm in a whole situation at the moment where I'm like testing different levels of drinking. It doesn't even matter where I'm how many drinks and I'm before the set. It really doesn't matter. I'm also not doing anything like super technical or super fast. I think I have it pretty easy. But, yeah, I mean, I'll start drinking as soon as we load in and stop drinking when I go to bed.

Every day. A lot of times, yeah. And he just acts like there's nothing. I'm also like very slow. I mean, you want to be? Yeah, I can do it. I mean, I would drink one. But let me finish the coffee.

coffee first yeah i got beer i got whiskey i got whatever you want yeah no but i mean i'm also not i'm not getting hammered i'm not getting black out i just sipping all day you know just just chilling out boredom i think it's mostly boredom yeah just sitting around because i mean when you you get to the venue at noon load in it to sound check it for show doors at seven you know you're there for 12 14 hours a day in a parking lot you know so what do you do then when you're not drinking run merch you do you do merch eric and i yeah we still sell all our own shit we don't bring anybody on tour we don't do any that so yeah why not just keep the money yeah more money in the pocket plus it's like it's just weird fucking thing and i think about it sometimes and i'm like man am i like it's like

it's like an ego trip or something but it's it's nice because it gives you a purpose but also You talk to these people. Like I realize it sometimes I'm a tour of the other bands that they, besides when they go out on the stage, they don't ever see anyone at eye level that came to that show. And that's everybody's own thing,

if that's what you want to do. But like, I get some kind of weird enjoyment out of just like talking to people, hanging out, shaking hands. Like, it makes it feel more real like it's an actual event. For me personally, like, as far as like my enjoyment of the show,

because if I was just sitting in a green room, sitting on my phone, I do that already, the van. So it's like that's kind of the only social interaction that I get some days. You said, I don't know if it's an ego trip, but I think it's the complete opposite of an ego trip. Like, you're meeting the people that like your music. Yeah. I'm pretty, I ain't fucking doing merch. I'll tell you that much. I mean, hey, it's not like it's not a nightmare. I love meeting people. Yeah. But fuck. I love talking to drummers. I'll sit and talk to a drummer all day,

but I'm just not a very social person. So, no, I'm not. I'll sit in the back, talk to the bands. I can't. I'm also dealing with all the back-in stuff. Like, we're all working all day. You know, we've all got our jobs. Mine's just not out front.

None of us are crazy social, really, though. Like, when it comes down to it, like, we force ourselves to be social and do stuff because that's just the name of the game. But given a choice, I feel like we'd all be in a hammock somewhere. Yeah. You know, it's more our speed.

But talking to people's as shit sometimes. You say being a hammock somewhere. Yeah. As in like a literal... Like out and go out and off in the woods somewhere and just... Yeah, they're great. Yeah. Love it.

You've got that vibe as a band. Yeah. For quite a scary band, you've got, like, laid back. You live in a camper. Yeah. Been doing it over a year now. Out of choice? Yeah.

Well, honestly, I had a necessity to a point. because whenever I first moved to Tampa I was just kind of crowds Are you in Tampa? Yeah I fucking love Tampa Tampa Tampa Tampa's the shit Florida's the shit Everybody that talks shit on Florida

I don't understand why Because it is kind of like a wild place I love it But it's dude I wake up every morning And I love Texas More than anything ever And I question sometimes

I'm like damn like But am I going to stay in Florida Because I fucking love Florida And I'm not a Florida guy I wasn't born there You know what I mean? I only would come through on tour and stuff like that. But yeah, Florida's a shit.

And campers are huge in Florida just because seasonally the weather is always good. Yeah. But the problem is once a pandemic and all the shit happened, everybody started leaving certain states and going to other states. And Florida was one of the first states that just was just like, we're open. You can just work and do whatever you want. And I was late to the game. I was living in Arizona doing my thing.

But whenever I finally ended up moving to Tampa to start, tattooing the area that the shop is in the average rent when i was looking around at apartments and shit is fucked up it was like you know anywhere from like 1900 to 2 500 dollars for a shit box that you got to sign up for three months in advance and maybe they'll call you maybe they won't and it just sucks because uh you know how it is being on the road you're pissing that money way i don't have a partner i don't have a significant other anybody that can watch the fort for me while i'm gone so then yeah I honestly buying a used camper was a logical choice because I bought it cash used, paid itself off in six months tamper rent.

Yeah. And it's small. It's the shit I can go over I want. What's your toilet situation? I don't know what a camper is like. Okay, so the toilet situation. Like, I'd probably say the camper from front to back is probably that wall and maybe a computer right there.

It's real small. It's called a honeymooner, which is, meant for a couple to fuck in for a weekend and then be like, well, let's go park it back in the backyard and be done with it for the next six months, you know? But I live in it full time. Just in there. Yeah. And for the first probably seven months of living in it, I didn't use a toilet because I was like, oh man, I know, I'm right by work. If I got a shit, I'll just go in and shit at work or I'll shit at the gym or shit at the gas station. Wherever I'm at, I'll just shit there. And I was like, for pissing, I just walked out my door and would piss outside.

Yeah. Because it's in a gated backyard, right? And came back from the studio when we were doing theory of mind, and we all got food poisoning or something. Like we were shitting black tar, like fucked up. Except me. I was safe somehow. Everybody else.

Yeah. I don't drink it. I wasn't drinking at the studio. He's got the Oklahoma blood. It just keeps him safe. Nice. But I was like one of the last ones to get sick, and I'm in the airport just pinching it off. And I'm on the plane having a get up every five minutes to go fucking shit black in their toilet, right?

Why was it black? I don't know. Everyone confirms the same blackness. It was, it was like bad, though, because Randy had to go home for a day. He took a whole day off. We were only there for seven days, and he had to go home for one of them. Because he got it as well. He got it first.

Where did you get it from? We don't know. Come on. We have. Was this in Belleville? It was at the new place. No one cooked us. some pasta

you bet that's some with what though with some water from the area maybe I don't know here's it yeah we don't know we all eat the pasta most of us started shit in black within a day that's the only thing that changed

but it was just pasta and sauce no like meat in there was meat yeah he did like a bacon quilt it was good it was good but fuck at what cost yeah exactly it costs everything you know yeah it was fucked up but that was the first time I was my toilet in the camper

was I was so sick that I was like I'm gonna shit I have to shit and the only reason I never shit in the camper toilet was because I was like I'll resale value I'll live in this for a couple years sell it but it goes down with the amount of shit I just my logic's fucked up you know I I think we like it I think we like it wait a minute you've been shitting in this thing haven't you wait a minute that looks about 1900 sheds yeah there is a shit meter it's funny you have to read it and that's when you empty it which I'll get to that in a second But yeah, and dude, I just started just demolishing this toilet for like two days straight. And then after that, I was like, damn, this is way sicker than going and pissing outside.

Because, like, I would go outside in the middle of summer in Florida. And my glasses broke maybe like six years ago. So when I take my contacts out, I just can't see. So I'll step out of the trailer into just the muggiest shit you've ever felt ever. Walk out into the yard, just start pissing. You could look at my shoulders and there's just mesquite. Just everywhere. And I'm like getting bed up trying to hurry up and piss so I can go back in and go to sleep.

So it was nice to be able to wake up, walk three feet, piss and shit in my toilet. The problem with it now, though, is you get two tanks when you live in a camper. You got your gray tank and your black tank. And you got to dump them. Okay? So where I was at is all the dumping fucking tubes are on the wrong side. So every time that I need to do that. dump my shower water and my shit water.

I have to take a fucking hose, bear hug it, crawl underneath, like, Rambo style, underneath the whole frame of the camper, get to the other side, hook it up, pull the fucking latches so it all goes. And then the problem is, is there's not enough gravity for it to get down into the port that it's supposed to go down to.

So I have to close the fucking things, unhook it. And like shimmy? Yeah, tilt it up. Otherwise it'll just dump it. water on me. It's shit and poop and fucking stuff. Can you just park the thing? Yeah, but that's too much trouble.

Well, just like where he's parked, he can't, there's like no hookup and he can't get to, you know, anything. Just like where he's parked right. Yeah, there's a hookup. It's just on the wrong side. Yeah, but can you flip the camper? Sure, but I just don't care. I'll just shimmy underneath it.

My life is just all those things. That seems like a lot of, how often do you have to do that? That seems like a lot of pain. Or maybe every one week and a half. Why can't you just? change it. Well, because if I'm going to do that, it's real precarious, man, where it's situated.

I don't even think you could because you had to back it in there. I'd have to buy a trailer dolly, which those are like $2,500. Someone listening to this will do it for you. Buy me a trailer dolly so I don't have to fucking get covered in shit. No, someone with one in Tampa will hear this and come and flip your thing. Yeah, I mean, I could probably see if Home Depot will let me rent one.

But, like, it's always one of those things. If I'm being real, and this is so fucked up. but I'm always like, man, I'm only here for a couple more weeks we're about to leave for this tour, leave for that tour, and I just keep putting it off. And I've never... That's me with loads of shit. I've never dumped it on myself.

I successfully shimmy under, holding it. I get it under the fucking, all the underneath components, and I drain that motherfucker down, and then I'm good. It's like a whole 15-minute exchange. Oh, okay. In my head, it's like half a day. No, no, no. Shit, no. If it was half a day, I wouldn't be doing it. That's why I was like, yeah.

15 minutes tops, and then I go in, and because I have... no more all my shower water is dumped and all that i take a what we call hollywood shower that's where you can just shower for fucking 10 minutes if i feel like it because usually the shower i take is like who calls it a hollywood shower that's what they call it in scouts when you can take a shower like because i don't have hot water either all my showers are cold water fucking this guy you're just fucking cast iron so i'll shower at the gym and i still take a cold shower at the gym every morning and then at night I shower in the camper but to reserve water you literally just crank it you get motherfucking wet and then you soap up with it off yeah like a bandwagon yeah

exactly it's exactly like that and I like my life the thing is like I tell people listen they're like like what the fuck is in my head it's like oh it's just like bandwagon it just just less shit to deal with it just becomes normal yeah I feel like a house because I had a house and when I was living in West Virginia. Three bedroom house, two-car garage. It was great. Cleaning that motherfucker sucked. Everything about it.

It was me living alone. So now that I'm just in this camper by myself, cleaning the whole thing. Countertops, floors, sweeping it, all that shit. Half-hour tops, if I'm really feeling like doing it, you know what I mean? So that's enough of that. That would is. It's cool.

I liked it. That was a good little insight there into Tampa Matt. Yeah, I feel like it's not your typical living situation. Tampa, like Tampa in particular, Tampa, St. Pete, like, that's my shit. Every time we're on tour, I'm like, this is like Leeds, but in the States. Like everyone's a bit of a psycho. Everyone's fucking ready to party or hang out or just be a little bit crazy. It reminds me of like Northern England, but you just slap it in, or Scotland, slap it in fucking Florida.

Down by the Gulf. Yeah. But with good weather. Drive 10 minutes down the road, you could. go see fucking 80 alligators piled up in a pool together. You can feed them. It's literally the most nut shit you can imagine. And there's so many people because everybody goes to retire there.

There's people from everywhere. Like there was a dude that I went to St. Augustine with my mentor who was teaching me to tattoo for Thanksgiving. And we met a guy who was like a general in like the South African army, hard-bodied motherfucker. or do one of his eyes didn't work. And he was sitting out there just smoking a cigar. We were like, this is the guy we need to talk to. This guy knows some shit. Yeah, just retiring.

Because everybody else is talking about how much money they got, and this guy's sitting over in a corner smoking a cigar. I'm like, fuck. But he said, he's like, yeah, him and his wife bought a boat in South Africa. They were traveling the world to figure out where they wanted to live, ended up in St. Augustine. And he was like, this is the closest place I've ever felt to South Africa. I don't know what the fuck that means.

He lives on the boat. But I'm like, he lives on a boat? I guess so. Is that your next step? Boat life? I don't like deep water. You know what the lazophobia is? No.

Come on. You might a lot of phobias. Yeah, I'll like, sometimes at night I'll be feeling crazy. I'll be leaning my bed and I'll Google thalazophobia. What is it? It's a fear of deep dark water. Oh, how's this submarine shit? Fuck that.

Dude, you'd have to put a gun to my head to get me in a submarine. That's fucked up. When I first heard about that shit too I was like So people pay money to be scared shitless Down at the bottom of the ocean Like there's no fucking way man I don't even like going in public pools

Sometimes when it's dark outside Which is because it's dark It's dark Because if I close my eyes And I open them up underwater and I can't see you dude It's like I've definitely like jumped in some water at night That scared me for sure

Like ponds and lakes and stuff That I was like I probably shouldn't be in here This dark Why's the darkness got to do with the danger. What do you? No idea.

I feel like that's the most base, logical, fucking human emotion. Yeah, but what else is happening in the dark? Alligators. You heard about that guy in Florida that got his arm bit off outside of a bar pissing? No. This dude, there's this place

that, like some bar somewhere in Florida. A guy, the bathroom was full or whatever. I'm fucking a story up, but you'll get it either way. So the guy's like, he's plastered. He's like, I'm going to go outside and I'm just going to piss outside. So he walks to the back of the bar,

which is like water, front and first thing that my mentor told me because i was like i'm gonna swim everywhere out in this motherfucker he said assume anybody water has an alligator in it he's like he's like i don't care if it's in the middle of town i don't care if it's in front of walmart there can be a fucking alligator in it i was like okay and so this guy at this bar he goes out to piss fucking stumbles into the water with his cock out gets his arm in an alligator's mouth it rips his whole arm off jesus and i saw the video footage where his friends are coming to get him and it's like that fucking blitterwit shit they got the fucking spotlight on the phone

trying to find him and he's washing his nub in the water trying to get up because this and he's so plastered he's like i don't know what happened and then they pull him on to the fucking well he doesn't even know his arm's gone no and it looks like something out of fucking deep blue sea his shit's all fucking mangled up looks like spaghetti and that's like hell no for a piss okay i didn't think because obviously i live in fucking scotland where there's no All right. Yeah, the very best. There's a chopping trolley and some fish in the body of water.

But you live in, where do you live? Nashville. So. No alligators there. You got swamps. Where does swamp happen? Because it's close to Tennessee, isn't it? Florida, straight west, over to Texas, basically.

Like Louisiana to Florida. That whole, that whole bottom line of U.S. You could take that whole highway and you'll go over the swamp. Yeah. The Bayou shit. Oh, I love it. Oh, you love it. Yeah.

That shit scares the first. fuck out of me. Yeah. We've talked about wanting to live in this shit. Yeah, I would go live down in Louisiana. What? With like, in my head you've got Kubla Khan and it's like you all live on the swamp and you have those hovercrafts with the big... Yeah, an airboat? Oh yeah.

That's how we have to get to each other's houses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, all of you are on the same swamp. Yeah. You should do some airboat merge. That's a sick... That's some water bullshit. Yeah. That's a fucking sick like image. Have you ever been on an airboat? No, but I'd love to. Yeah, me too.

We should go on an airboat sometime. But I would love to do that. We'll do it in... I think I've only ever been... When did we do... The only Yelp review I've ever left was for a... It was for a Chili's. And I think it was in Alabama, or it was somewhere.

Alabama's pretty Bayouy, isn't it? I think when you go, like, south, yeah. Yeah. They got the, like, Cypress trees, I think, the one with all the ferns and moss. It looks the same. It was... Whatever. it was, it was scary.

And not like, I was really hungry because the driver was really long. And there was like a, like a band-aid in my food in the Chili's. And it was already like terrible. Was it bloody? Shitty fucking food. Yeah, like some guy's arm on it.

No, it was like, it was the only time I've ever left the Yelp review. What was the review? It was pretty fucking bad. Was it funny? Oh, it was so funny. Yeah, I bet. Thank you.

I remember I just sat down. I didn't eat my food. No, you channeled all of that hangar into this one. like review of this one cheese i'll try and find it one day maybe i'll find it and put it on the screen um while we're still on the subject of um food actually you mentioned halfway through the tour you get into eating it mcdonald i mean that's day one but i was i was going to say what's your what's your diet on tour and no diet just means what food do you i'm just saying there's no

there's no restrictions push your tier list like where's where's number one like i like this question Where's number one, like universally agreed if you drive past it, you're stopping, or if there's one coming up? You know. Where? Chipotle.

Yeah, we'll do Chipotle. Their quality's been slipping, though. If anybody watches from Chipotle, y'all need to get your shit together, man. On that fucking land and tell them. Every time you go in, you don't have the right shit, you got rice spilled everywhere. I worked at Chipotle for a year,

and I'm not trying to even sound like a Chapoelais, old head or nothing. But they would, My generation of Chipoli workers would have never put up with the shit that y'all are putting on now. And it sucks because it's still good enough, though. It still beats out. He keeps getting you back. Yeah.

What are you unhappy with? What's it being happening? It's just fucked up. It's gross now. Like, the thing that gets me is they never have enough shit. When you walk in there and they're out of cheese at 2 p.m. Yeah, that's fucked up. Who in the building plan that out?

If every other restaurant. No, we're having cheese today. Yeah, well, you guys can't run to Walmart and just go put it on the company bill. Go grab some more fucking cheese because, like, they're always out of shit. The fucking customer service, which I'm weird about customer service. I think customer service is important. I don't want to go to someplace. I don't care what your home life is like, and people are going to be mad.

I don't care. But people love getting mad at you. Yeah, this is what it is. And when I'm at work, any job I've ever had, no matter how much it sucked, I put a smile on for people. tried to be good to people because it's not my shit in their problem. You know what I'm saying? And that's why whenever I go there, there's one in specific. There's the Tampa one that I go to.

And my mortal enemy lives there. And I'm sure she's a sweet girl, whatever. She might be getting your camper turned round. So be happy. She just has the worst attitude. Every time I see her, I'm like, here we fucking go. I'm like, this motherfucker running the cash register. And I'm a grown-ass man walking up to her.

And she's always like, what's you get? I'm like, it's right there. Motherfucker, use your eyes. I don't work here. I'm not getting paid to do that. Wait, she asked you what you get. Yeah. She just doesn't.

And when I talk about, I've told multiple people about this woman. She just does not get, she'll literally look at you. And the minute you make eye contact, roll her motherfucking eyes. Like, crazy. Sounds like this tension here, though. This sounds like you might like each other. No. What's your order?

What's your order? What did you get? Does that you get V-JST? Yeah. I just get brown rice, steak, maybe add some chicken and then cheese. It's simple. There's no way to fuck that.

No sour cream? I get it on the side if I'm feeling slutty. You know what I'm saying? No, what's that? You didn't give me the full order. Talk me through that. That's the full order, bud. Yeah, see, I don't do sour cream.

well that's why you look the way you do and how like the way I look no because I get likeamoree I just don't let the sour cream I figured out fucks my stomach up I thought it was the spice are you like that's in time I don't know probably still gonna eat it still gonna eat ice cream every day in my fucking life still delicious my shit yesterday you know what I did I left a tub of ice cream on the side by accident forgot about it just drank it it was fucking wonderful milkshake what's your order chip at Chipotle every time something different What? No, what does that? Every time. Yeah. I just, but that's part of why I like it is I haven't gotten sick of it yet.

What are you mixing up? Give me day one and day three. The salsas, like the veggies, I'll do, I'll do veggie bowl sometimes, every different meat, whatever. Like, burrito bowl, tacos, like whatever. Every day something different. You are. Yeah. Tasting the rainbow there. Yeah. It's so good. It's like fucking, even if you get a drink and you get chips, it's like 12 bucks. Yeah. Yeah.

It's fucking wonderful. Have you ever like, you know whenever you have a girlfriend and you really like each other for a while and things are great? And then you just kind of like get bored, but then something will happen and you're like, God, I love you. And it's like amazing again. Yeah, you try anal. Yeah. Anal for me was smoked Chipotle Tabasco sauce. So now I go in there like almost honestly every day.

I switch between two different Chipotle so I don't think I'm a cycle path. That might be the best thing anyone ever said. And you just put that shit on there and it's like, it's a whole new world with that sauce. I went, I went through a period. I still do it. I don't have any at the moment, but you can't really get that in the UK. So I order it on Amazon. And then my meal prep is essentially I made Chipotle but at home and I have that.

What do you get at Chipotle? Do you eat Chipotle? Yeah, if I can do. Well, we don't have it here. We've got like two in the UK. But when I'm in the States, I mean, the States, I'll have it every day if I can. Like for one of my fucking meals. chicken

uh at the front of line so you know what I'm saying bowl with three soft tortillas on the sides sorry old head the old head

white rice yeah controversial um then chicken and I assess the heaviness of the spoon with the first spoonful and if it's not good I'll ask for double chicken

yeah but if they do just a single chicken and it's a heavy one, I'll keep it. But when I ask for, could I get double chicken? There's like a little look where I'm like, you fucked up. Some of those motherfuckers don't know what they're doing. Yeah, but sometimes that works in your favor because they're like, one scoop of chicken. Fucking loads of it.

Then I just do guacamone, the normal salsa. What's normal? The tomatoes and shit? Yeah, the mild one. No cheese. That's it. Why isn't it no cheese? Because they're out.

Because they run out. It's fucking 2pm as lunchtime. No one wants cheese. I'm one of the few people that they base their cheese stock off. I don't want the cheese. I don't know what it is. Cheese sometimes like fucks me up. Maybe I haven't.

I think it's like that's intolerant, man. And then it's like for the effect I get from the barita, because the cheese never really melts. Or like from the bowl, I don't really, sometimes I will put the cheese in. I don't really get like a big benefit other than maybe 400 extra calories

in my diet, which maybe sometimes I need. You know what I mean? Cheese is a big big dollar. It is, but only if it melts. If it doesn't melt, I might just... I like it when it stays cold. When it melts, I get pissed off. What? Because I don't want it. I want to be...

Because when it's cold, you can differentiate. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why I usually ask for a lot of cheese because I want there to be so much that it can't break the threshold of the heat. eat and it won't melt. So that way, whenever I get that last bite and it's just tortilla and cheese and I'm not going to be able to shit for a week.

It's going to be a good bite. Yeah, I mean, sometimes it will have cheese, I'll admit. What's your drink? Just the water. And then a little, on the way out, a little splash of Pib, the only place you can get Pib. That's the only bit. Dude, I still do that at home now, too. We were just getting waters to drink.

But then at the end of it, you go in and you go, yeah. You steal one. Just a taste. Oh, just just. That 35 cents worth of the Pib. On top of the water? Or you just, you're having a shot a PIP. Yeah, shot a PIP.

Shot a PIP. That way you get the nice little rush of the taste and the sizzle and all that shit. But you're not, nobody needs a whole cup of Pib. All right, bad for you. Yeah. Terrible. I always get roasted for, I'll get like a relatively nuts McDonald's order or like a fast food order. And then I'll get a diet drink.

And everyone's like, oh, huh, why are you getting that? I'm already having. Damage control. Yeah, exactly. I'm already, especially in the States, you've got such good, like, zero drinks. No, we don't. Yeah, you do. You got a Baja Blast zero?

You ever had that shit? No. No. We don't do that. You don't do. If you're going to drink soda, drink motherfucking soda. You know what I'm saying? Trying to be rich.

Coke heavy band. Yeah. I got pissed off at the show yesterday because they only had the Coke Zero, and I was literally, I turned to him. I was like, what the fuck is this? I was like, do we have a rider? Why is there no regular coax? And then he reminded me, he was like, you're not.

reminded me. He was like, you told me you don't want to be drinking soda anymore. And I was like, you're on my team secretly. But now I do want to show it. So I'm, coke heavy. Yeah. And one of you are so heavy. That's the music.

I talked about the music. Yeah, well done. I did it. Check. Okay, so Chipotle. Yep. Failing Chipotle. Where's your like?

Where's your burger? Spot. I don't care about music. I like this band. Listen to this band. Two albums. Two EP. I don't know.

Beats me, man. Loads of shit. It's really good. We have like six releases. Check it out. Yeah. We're still playing stuff. You know?

As long as I've got breakdowns, it gives a shit. And it's got a bit where it's just you singing, and it's got a bit where it's just you in the bass. Bish, bash. Very good. Cool console. Just the Metallica fucking school, like, actually we are going to talk about music for a second here. Thing I love with you guys is when it is just bass and drums. There would...

Closed hi-hats as well. There was one tour where I don't think I realized it until we were playing. We'd be playing in front of like, what, 2,000 people or whatever. And throughout the set, there had to be like three solid minutes of just drums. Yeah. Or like another three solid minutes of just drums and bass. And I was like, oh, dang, like we're, you know, I'm just soloing up here a lot. It's sick.

On such a tiny drum kit. Tiny drum kit. Floatom, kick drum, snare drum. That's it. Symbols? I got a few to crash, ride hats, China. Classic. I would love if I could drop all of it, but I'm about as small as I can get.

Are you going to go smaller or bigger? What could you do? I won't go bigger. I was working real hard on dropping my second kick, dropping my double kick, and... Doing that thing. Well, as we were writing, I was riding with less and less double kick. and then we finally got to the point where our set list had no old songs with double kicking it. And in that tour when I was going to do single kick is right when Lois Forma Animal came out.

And on that EP, I wrote every song with double kick like an idiot. So now I'm stuck with it forever. Yeah. Like I spent years working on it, doing less and less and less. And then one EP, I was like, nah, whatever. Yeah, it's sick, though. You should don't get rid of it. I won't.

I won't now. I realize what kind of band we are. Like, you got to accept it. Yeah. Like, I'm, I'm going to have a China forever. I'm going to have double kick forever. It's what, you know, it's what makes people want to move.

It's the fucking, yeah. What are you got a microphone? Yeah, what do they give me at the house? Do you bring anything? You got any, any diva moments? Like, I've got to have this. I've got to have this in my monitors. Water, that's it.

I get fucking pissed when a venue just doesn't have fucking four water. Bottles of water. Yeah, four waters. It's like, you know, you come all the way out of here, man, and I can't even have to drink my spit this whole set. It's just a dig at Europe. No, this happens everywhere. Yeah.

Europe's been okay with the waters this time. The worst is when you know you got to go to the fucking, you're playing some place and they're like, oh yeah, go to the bar. They give you a pitcher. I'm like, okay, so I got a drink out of a fucking pitcher. Have you watched what's happening? Like, what am I supposed to do with that?

Like, I get it. I guess. But you're going to have to. You're going to have to be slightly more prepared. If you're an eco venue, I get it. But have everything backstage ready for us to be eco-together. Do you go and get my own fucking picture of water like I'm going to do well? And that's the thing is I feel like our band is from the touring experience that we've had in the bands we've toured with,

just seeing how everybody operates, we're on the lowest to the low end of the scale as far as like maintenance. We don't ask for shit. We don't need anything. No much, guy. Yeah, you guys are slumming. You know what I mean? You're fucking chiming under the venue. Empty in their crapper tanks for them and shit.

Yeah. No, it's easier that way. I mean, it's like we said earlier, if we've been 100% real, the payouts a lot better. And I'm sure there's a lot of motherfuckers who would love to drop what they're doing and come out on tour with us. But it's like, why? Like, I don't, I want to still be doing this stuff. At least to the level we're at right now.

It gets harder and harder. Like, yesterday we played Tech Fest. and it's like a small medium-sized festival I guess in the UK and it was cool but dude by about 8 o'clock I kept turning to the guys being like I gotta get the fuck out of here I all in terms of what like people yeah just how many you know it's full of nerds though no offense to everyone at that festival but fuck me well it's also I don't know anything about that festival I just seen the lineup but like that's a lot of nerdy bad that we're even on it's crazy what the fucking you knew in there good money yeah it's all it's all tech I mean it was a good

show but yeah like just also just being at festivals for you know we're already at the venue 12 hours but the doors are only open five or six yeah but at a fest you're there i want to know who else 18 hours it went off it was sick we were stoked to be playing it it was kind of a weird fit and everybody kept telling us that too they're like why are you guys on that's right because they asked us to yeah oh because we needed a little bit of respite from all the bands with the fucking saxophone or whatever um i like a lot of those bands actually yeah before anyone comes to me i want to see who was playing because in my head you're like the scariest band there and everyone would be scared of you maybe was anyone scared of you probably not i don't think we're very scary you are one of the

most contradicting on stage to real life people on earth because on stage you're terrifying like singing performing yeah in between songs you're not terrifying quite funny Thanks. In real life, you're just like an absolute sweetheart. Yeah. I mean. But the voice, the voice on him, you would think scary. I mean, I'm sure you could fucking kick someone's ass.

I got born of Osiris, Oceans, A, Alaska, envisions, pale dust. Pale dust, good. Yeah. We met them recently, actually. Yeah. He's ripped. What's his name? Die Die.

He's fucking stupidly ripped. There was a pull-up challenge. I'm pretty sure it was. no i think he like he won it was that at the festival what you're talking about we're full force there was a it wasn't even it was just a hanging challenge and he did two minutes 40

yeah psychopath i tried it i got 59 seconds and it was like they told me after a minute you got a trophy and they didn't tell me that it told me it afterwards and i got 59 seconds like i'm never going to do two minutes 40 so i just gave up so i could have definitely held on for one more fucking second yeah that guy's ripped i'm trying to find where you are on the lineup

It's a, you were yesterday. Three-day thing, yeah. Yeah. Okay, let me find out. Simon, you could. Before aborted. Aborted, I talked with aborted a bunch of times back in the day. They were nice.

Love that band. Love. Oh, here we go. Chelsea Grin, aborted, Kubla Khan, Harriet. Harriet's fucking sick. Vexed monasteries in fear, blind summit. Then the second stage, I can't even read. That's bad for me.

I can't even read the name of that band. something fear oh bound in fear bound in fear what do they sound like kind of slammy shit bunch of breakdowns

bunch of bass drops just kick your ass in kind of shit how long was you set 45 that's about all we got yeah I mean this doesn't look like it did

on previous years it used to be like there's only Jefferson airplane not that band but like you know some variation of mad progressive

band. Well, people are telling us the whole day, they were like, because apparently this is the last one too. It's done after this year. And they were like, yeah. I mean, it was called Tech Fest for a reason. And then, I guess over the years, they started adding in other acts and stuff. Because, yeah, we were the only band that was like us on that fest.

But it played into our favor. The room was a fucking Warzone. It was cool, man. I didn't see a single, what I would consider a tech band there. I mean, a lot of it's metal metal, not hard. I don't think any of us. Let's even know what tech is. I don't...

Born of a Cyrus headlined. That. Okay. Yeah. No shade, but just like... I wonder if maybe they are... It's the last year of it, and it's just going to be a festival next year. Do you know what I mean? Like, the name...

We're having a 10-minute conversation about how bad the name is, technically. The name is... I'm not going based on the name. You don't want to see tech bands. I don't want... Maybe I want to see one tech band, but I don't want to see, like... But that's the thing. A lot of the bands we were listening,

two. Like, what was that man? Like, what was that man? A hundred year old man? A thousand-year-old man? They weren't tech, and they were badass as fuck. They were like a thousand-year-old man. A hundred-year-old man. Was it a hundred? It was, yeah. They kind of sounded like you were at a 40-watt son.

Oh, I fucking love 40-watt son. They were sick. They were sitting there merch like, who in the fuck is this man? But then, like... You sure it wasn't him? No, no, no, no, they were, like, pretty young. Yeah, I wouldn't follow them on Instagram and shit. That's sick.

Yeah. They were good as fuck, though, and it's like, they're definitely not tech as far as I'm considering tech. But then again, like, we're not tech. We don't know what the fuck tech music is. Like, when I think, if I were to think of tech, I'd think of, like, people who wear, like, the fucking Japanese pants with, like, fucking chains and loops and shit. Technical pants. Yeah, like tech pants. Tech pants.

It looks like you're in ghost in the shell or whatever. It's good luck. I wish I could put it off. Yeah. All right. Maybe I could put it off. I don't do it. What did we just talk about before that?

Forty what's on? Do you ever listen to the band that, what's his name? Warning. Yeah, you've ever listened to Warning? Fucking love warning. This is a thing that keeps happening with me and like, would you call yourself as a hardcore band? Huh?

Would you call yourself a hardcore band? No, no, no. What would you call yourself? Metal core? Metal core. Yeah, see, I'm the same. People call straight a hardcore band. I'm like, okay.

We're like nothing. Give us metalcore. But like malevolence, just talking to malevolence. And I was wearing a warning t-shirt. I was like, oh, fuck, yeah, warning. I was like, why are all these bands? We found out about 40-watt sun through malevolves.

Through Malib, yeah. Because if anyone doesn't know, it's Patrick Summing. I can't remember his name. I'm going to butcher it. Warning was a UK Doom band. 90s, I want to say like 94, the most depressing music on earth.

Dude, I don't know what album it is, but it's the album cover with the motherfucker that's carrying the sticks on his back. Yeah, the brown and... At least a couple times a year, I'll Google that record cover just to, like, gaze at it and just feel terrible. It is. It is. The artwork, the music, the tone, everything is just like, well, I'm going to go die, you know?

It is so depressing. Yeah. 40-watt sun's pretty goddamn depressing, too, but it's a little more. And it's got, like, it's still droney, but it's like parts, got stuff. Yeah. You know, and there's, like, harmonies and shit that are really beautiful. like I got to be in the right mood to hear that shit though watching from a distance that's the name of the album

god in my head I was like I'm not gonna remember this fucking album um fucking sick man check them out uh they can't do anything 40 what sounds still going but it's like yeah I mean I think even last time I looked like I don't even know any shows they're playing I don't keep up with bands either I'll listen to the same shit for five years and then uh dude this actually fucking happened I just I feel like guilty telling this story

Come on. But it happened at a, what was it, was it, resurrection? I don't know. That was the one in Germany. Yeah. No, resurrection spainter. What the fuck did I just say? Full force.

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unless I tour with you for a fucking month. You know what I'm saying? Kind of shit. And I was walking into catering and this dude walks past. And he was like, hey, man. He's like, saw you yesterday at Jero and Air. He was like, cool-ass set. And I was like, dude, that rules, man.

Appreciate it. It's just being nice talking yada yada yada. And I always come to this crossroad when I don't know somebody. I'm fucking freaking out right now. It happens to me every fucking day. Where I'm like, do I ask what band you're in, or do I just pretend that I know and then whenever it gets brought up,

I don't know what's going on that? That's what I do? He didn't. Yeah, I go, hey man. I was like, yeah, I was like, what band you with? He goes, I'm Chris from Hey, breed, man. And I was like, damn. I was like, that, thank you, bro.

Like, that's sick. And I was like, dude, you could have just smashed me into a tin can at that point. Because it's one of those moments where you're just like, I listen to you every fucking day. You know what though? I couldn't tell you what he looks like.

I didn't know. I don't know what anybody goddamn looks like. I could tell you what Jamie Jaster used to look like. I couldn't tell you what he looks like now. He's got a big old beard and long hair and shit. Now, whenever I saw him play at that fest, I was like, holy shit. Because I remember fucking clean cut, goddamn had the bandana and shit. But yeah, I've been carrying that shame around quite a bit.

Do you feel better for unloading it? I mean, it's kind of, yeah, like telling somebody, you got, oh, man, I just, I killed somebody. I got to tell somebody. Therapy. Because I was like, it was even telling Nick, I was like, bro, if I see him again, which I didn't, I mean, I saw him play, but I'm not going to go out on stage and be like, oh, what happened earlier was like really fucked up, you know? But I was like, if I see him again, I'm going to just come clean. Because we played a couple of shows opening for hate breed in Dallas, but we didn't really interact. We didn't like hang out.

We didn't really talk to him. There might have been a fist bump on the way out or something like that. but it wasn't enough where it was like substantial, at least in my opinion, you know, and we love that band as far as like where our band has come from. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, I was telling myself, if I ever seen him, I got to just come clean and like, look, man, I fucked up. Like, you're the shit and I fucked up.

But, and I don't ever get that way. I really just, I don't know, man. I don't know what people look like. I don't know shit about anything. I don't expect anybody to know what I look like. Half the time people come up and they're like, mom, you're little and squatty and brown. I thought you'd be some big fucking white guy with the way you sound.

It's like, no. Thanks. Yeah, that is just my life. You know what I'm saying? So it's fucked up. Shit happens, but... I'm really fucking bad with that. And I'm just in general,

really fucking bad with names, and really bad with faces and really bad with memory. So... Same. I want... Yeah, like, I want everybody when they introduce themselves to be like,

hi, I'm Isaac. I play drums and Kuwikovac. Now, not to sound... Like, I want everybody to do that to me. Not to sound... you know like historically a very bad man indeed but like i wish everyone just had like a label on them where i could just see what band they're from like a much less dark version where i could be like oh that's who that is and i can even pretend i know or i can do the fucking math in my head i feel like

it sets the tone for the conversation you're about to have yeah but see that's the thing even in the case of this story i didn't know at the time and i was genuinely interested yeah but it's kind of when you get that wallop where it's like, I'm your fucking hero. And it's like, damn, I didn't even know that. You know what I mean? But you know what? I'm trying to bring, this is why the podcast is video as well. Because like, people don't know who people are.

And when you see it on video, it's like, I know that guy. It's in that band. I couldn't tell you what most, especially like old bands that I love, but it's not like Metallica. Like, off the top of my head, I couldn't really probably, I met Andreas Kisser from Sepulchura, I probably couldn't. In my head, my head wouldn't go, that's that guy, until he said hello, and then I'd have that moment.

I think that would be that moment for me. Well, it's just, it's crazy of those festivals, man, because you're kind of walking on, you don't know who the fuck is. Well, there's also a thousand, a thousand people there that are all, you know, in a band or a label or, you know, somebody. Yeah. I was walking behind someone at Hellfest, and they had a cowboy hat on and they had a proper strut and in my head I was like, who the fuck

is this guy? And then I walk past I was like, oh, it's Maynard from Tall. Oh, obviously. And then immediately I was like, he can walk however the fuck he wants. Yeah. He had a crazy walk. It was, it was literally... I would ask you to do it for us. I can do it.

It was kind of like, I'll explain it before I do it. It was kind of like he was ready to pull out toy guns at any moment. Not real guns, toy guns. Like a little skip? Like he was going to do that. He's ready to go at any moment, man.

Like he was just going to, but he's prepared. He was prepared, yeah. He had like three security guards with him. Well, you couldn't sneak up on him. I was trying to get my guns out. We were trying to have a fucking draw. Yeah.

It was sunrise. Everything was ready, but he wasn't fucking there. Another Florida thing, too. What day of the week is it? What is today's day? Sunday the second. Sunday the second. Yesterday, I've been talking about this with them

because it's crazy. I think it's kind of cool, but it's kind of crazy at the same time. But we talk about Florida. Florida just passed the permitless carry. Now, anybody in their grandma is just going to be packing. So what, explain it to me like I'm five? Like you got to have like your concealed carry permit to have a gun under your shirt. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Now you don't have to have shit. You can just do it. But you still need to be able to get the gun in the first place. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. But most states, like, you have to have a license to carry concealed or open.

Yeah. Florida, you don't have to do shit. Before I ask you what you think of this, in my head, I'll probably get heat for this, but this is where my brain immediately goes, so give me a minute to take it back. Later on, maybe.

So, like, in my head, anyone who was going to do anything bad with a gun was already concealing it without having the fucking license to do it. And most people, who aren't going to do anything with a gun are still just consent. Like that's the thing is like,

it kind of is just like lifting the veil off of what people were already doing, which doesn't make it okay or not okay or whatever, but it's like... I feel like a lot of people are carrying guns. You don't know about it. It's out of sight, out of mind. But when you start showing them off,

you're just trying to make a statement. Yeah. Oh, hang on. So like the, no, I'm not talking about under your shirt. I'm talking outside your shirt. You know, like that's what, That's some bad. Anybody can just carry a gun in view.

Oh, okay. So that's what's lost. Yeah, it's different than concealed carry. Yeah. Oh, so everyone's just going to be like wearing them. Yeah. So you still need a concealed carry permit? Yes.

Oh, okay. No, as far as I knew, it was just like you don't have to, I could just put a pistol right here in my pants right now and walk around in Florida. And as long as I'm not a fucking offender. Just a handgun? Or can you do it with any guns? You can carry whatever you want. People are going to be walking around. I mean, that is insane.

I mean, in Texas, you can walk around with a fucking rifle, a sword, whatever you want. I think that's all pretty new, though. Like, I remember Oklahoma. But that's the thing is not everybody's doing that shit. I mean, it's... Well, that's the thing with open carry is the type of people, like, a lot of people are carrying guns in those states. The type of people who are carrying them visible are doing it for show. Yeah.

Because, like, if you want to carry a gun for whatever person... some reason you have, you don't need to let everybody know. Yeah. You know? I'm not a gun guy, man. It's not like I know the ups and downs and shit, but it's like, it's kind of interesting. Florida's just, that's just one more tick into just fucking wild west of us, you know what I mean? Let me throw this little curveball out of there that I'm allowed to do because it's my platform and I can just say whatever I want.

I'm not a gun guy. but if everyone else had guns I'd have a fucking gun I'm like I would still want to protect myself but also on the flip side of that if I was allowed to own a gun I would be dead

because there would definitely be moments where if there had been access to the gun I'd have been like fuck this so I'm kind of like I'm very glad in this country that they're illegal but if they were

I'd have a cool gun probably. And I'm not going to fucking go around doing anything with it. Well, that's the thing. Majority of gun owners, at least in the United States of America, are like, there's normal motherfuckers that aren't doing shit, you know? It's a, I don't know, just everything over there's fucking crazy, man. I mean, you tour over there all the time. You see how fucked up everything is.

It is fucked up. Yeah. It started with Chipotle and it just rolls down. They stop giving shit about the service. Now anybody can carry that. That's how it happened. It's a butterfly. The Chipotle effect.

Do you want to talk about music? We could. Yeah, whatever you want to talk about, man. You got anything coming up? You're supposed to be recording, but you've canceled it. We're supposed to be recording. We pushed it back. Nolan had an injury last November.

Let's talk about that. Yeah, I don't know. We made a couple posts about it, but just we're fixing it. You know, like he's, he had a pinching. nerve in his neck, had surgery, everything went good, physical therapy to get strength back in his arm. How did he get it? We don't know. We don't know. He had to get his whole goddamn disc taken out and they put a fucking cinder block. Yeah, they like did all sorts of crazy stuff. But he, he's totally, totally fine except for he can't do this.

That's something so, so unique to playing guitar. Like, that's the only thing he can't do. And so, yeah so he's doing therapy he's getting better it's just happening slower than we expected is he still writing and when did this happen this happened last november november 22 okay so we were on tour when it happened we were being like something's fucking wrong well we were going to australia in three days and he called us and said hey i i can't play guitar i can't go yeah did you still go yeah yeah we had nick from justice for the damn he would like called him And he was like, yeah, I can do it. No problem.

And he played it perfect. Yeah, he just smashed it. Yeah. And then... So, no one's getting bad. Yeah. Yeah. Last time we talked to him, he said he's at 65%.

Yeah. Have you been writing with him? We have not written anything yet. Yeah. We're kind of having to like, see where he goes with it, you know? Because it's kind of a fucked up situation, man. It's one of those things that you really don't know how long something's going to take. Because everybody's different.

The human body's different. Yeah. depending on how much work you're putting in to actually rehabilitate yourself. Like, all these factors. Came on the Wolverine stack. Came on that peptide tip. I think that's legal. I think that's legal to talk about.

I don't know if it is. Who gives you shit if it's not? Let's do it. Back it up. Came on that. I can't remember what it's called. It's like two separate peptides. Four times a day.

Boom, boom. Oh, you had a broken back. What happened? Back, baby. So, right, you're waiting for that. Yeah. And then... We're trying...

What is the writing process normally, assuming Nolan is not? So normally, we do most of the writing in the studio. We go pretty unprepared. Nolan will come with like a hundred riffs, just individual riffs. Matt will come with like, you know, big part ideas. Wait, what comes as a big part idea? When we did theory of mine, I was like, hey, we're going to start this song is going to say monkey see monkey do and people are going to fucking lose it and it worked that's

what they fucking did we booked studio time and walked in and matt was like i've got it i've got it where does that come from what the monkey see monkey do like that idea and then you're going like that's fucking it i mean i mean as soon as he told us we were like yeah yeah yeah okay it's the song's done already yeah this is first one problem child straight from the path same thing someone has the fucking line and then there's a gangboe or it says shut the fuck up and it happens every course and everyone just goes yeah wrap it up sometimes you just like figure it out and like as long as you and the rest of your band is on the same

page like yeah it all just comes together but where does that come to you like just out of my ass man just come up with it like I literally the whole monkey see monkey do thing I've been sitting on that for ages bro but there's never been a spot where that was ever going to work and if they make any sense and it's funny too because like

we've gotten a decent amount of hate where people are like, oh my God, these are like eighth grade lyrics. And it's like, dude, you heard one thing? Like the whole song is, it makes sense as a whole. Yeah. Plus, I feel like I question it. And I'm like, I mean, there's also license for people to just be like, yeah, that's really stupid and that be true. But I also question do, are there people that don't know that saying? They think I'm just saying monkey see monkey do and that means nothing. Yeah, it's like a child story. Because yeah, it's a, it means something. Yeah, because I get it. And conceptually with the music as well, like when you've got like really abrasive, fucking heavy music.

It's a goofy line on its nose, but in the grand scheme of the lyrics, it makes complete sense. The amount of people that were like not getting that, because we're always a band where it's like, you just get it. We just tell you exactly. There's no fucking shit you got to do any math to figure out. It's just there. But that line, I was like so confident that I was like, this is kind of fucking it. which it did. People are screaming at every show.

We haven't even played in the United States yet, so it's probably going to be even better over there. But it's like, that was been one of the few hiccups. Monkey's he monkey do over there as well. That's what they got to do. You know what I mean? It's, and that's, when we try and write our shit, like he's in like, dude, well, sit in the room for a week,

the four of us with our instruments and just be like, that's cool. Oh, that's heavy, you know? Is Randy there when you do that, or is that just you guys? He's in and out. It's changed over the years because we used to write, we'd all get together in a room and we would just jam until we had something we liked. Yeah.

But we'd always have songs that weren't done until we got to the studio, you know, to finish the album. And the ones we wrote in the studio last minute are always the best songs. And every album we've done, we've written less and less ahead of time. Yeah. And written better and better songs. And so now we're to the point where we're like, why are you? are we even going to try ahead of time? Like, it's going to come together.

Like, we're going to... You know, we all still are thinking on stuff. Like, he's got his ideas. No one's got his riffs, but it's that... The last minute, it always... It's always the best idea. And I don't know. Plus, Randy's a wizard.

Randy's... Randy literally just say one thing and be like, whatever you, like, flipped this and did this like that? And we're like, that's the best thing I've heard. And that's something that actually, I know it's a lot in your music, and I want to know, is it you guys is it Randy,

you will, especially on the last EP, there's a lot of like messing with the flow, particularly drums, like where the snare will go. That would probably be me.

That's a you. So that's like, you know, you've got a bit that's like a two and a four and then you'll break into like a boom, dun,

there's one real particular bit I'm thinking of. I can't remember that. I love like, I feel like so many bands I grew up listening to did stuff like that. Like I grew up listening to like a lot of Prague music.

And so, yeah, tech. Tech. Tech. Full circle. Yeah. In Chipotle? Yeah. Goldenero Chipotle when cheese was ample.

That's when I was listening to the music. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, like that was such a like staple because that's what I grew up when I was learning drums. You know, that was just like, yeah, like let's play the part. Let's get everybody. They know what's coming. And then let's just take it a little bit the other.

way. Just for a split second and then we'll come back to it. And I love that. I love that kind of stuff. I don't feel like anyone's really done it that much in the underground. Well, it's hard too because for me, the drums are like, I don't want to fake anybody out. I don't want to do tech stuff. We're a band of breakdowns and one-liners.

You need to know it's coming. And so I'm not trying to trick anybody. buddy so you still have to do it in a way that it grooves you know like i want i just want to add a little flavor but i don't want to i don't want to mess anybody up i don't want to ruin the vibe yeah just a little just a little flavor yeah it happens for like half a half a bar yeah it's just like oh it reminds me a bit the way mastered on do it yeah master don't do it like um fucking the song on the viathan i can't remember what it is is right at the end sea beast right at the end of sea beast there's one moment where the snare just goes from being on like the three in six

say it goes to like a two-step beat. Completely changes the riff, but then before you've even realized, it's back to normal. Oh, yeah. That shit's fucking cool. I love that. Metric modulation is the official term for that.

Anyone. Gavin Harrison. I had a book when I was a kid. Sorry to get drummy. You guys got to talk about something. Rhythmic allusions. I love it. Yeah.

Yeah. Crazy book. There's one thing from there that I've been trying to put on a stray record for the last three stray records. and no one can get their head round it. Oh, yeah. It's like take a simple,

if you're listening to this in the future, maybe I've already done it, take a real simple guitar line. Like I just want a fucking straight chug, something like that. And then a normal drumbeat and then move the entire drumbeat backwards one 16th note for one bar,

then go back to normal and then move that entire thing forwards one 16th note. And I can play it along to, like a programmed with. But then me, that's, me and Tom

try and jam it. It gets hard. It's done. Because he just hears the one where the old one was. Yeah. And he had, if he had click,

it might be easier, but yeah. Bringing me on to my next point. Click? No click. His fault? Uh, nobody's fault but my own.

Yeah. I think we're just sort of such an analog, you know, Mead Potato's band. But I've been thinking more and more about it. I do want to try it.

I think, I'm just at a point where I don't think my drumming is getting better live. And I think that that's one thing that would make me better. It would make our whole band better. And for that reason, like, I just want to play better every day. And I think that would help me, you know, that would just fix everything. Because you can program all the tempo changes. Yeah, yeah.

That's what we did. I had everyone sit and listen back to a whole set where we agreed all the tempos were fine. And then I mapped it. Yeah. nothing like the actual tempos from the records. It was how they felt good life. Now no one even notices that I'm playing to a click. Well, that's the thing is, you know,

we'll never be on ears. We'll never be on Kemper's and no cabs and all that stuff. But like... I would cancel your band so fast. Yeah, like we're always going to be that. But for me to just have a click in my head, because, you know, I control the tempo of all our songs.

We start and stop together. Like there's no crazy two-minute guitar solos and stuff. like it's it's all just easy and so it'd be real easy for me to just add it into our set and nothing changes except we're tighter yeah so the only issue you're gonna have is how many songs start with that man right there we currently have none yeah we don't have a single song that doesn't start without drum count off and doesn't end altogether that's just how we You've got a bunch of songs where within the intro, it drops down to just you.

I guess we've got like, Swan song maybe. We've got like that little part on Dynasty and maybe the middle of the hammer that I'd have to sort out. But other than that, like, it's pretty straight. You could do this so easily. Having a click for our band,

no, it'd be so straightforward to add. Because the hammer has fucking music before the big line. Yeah. Well, no, I'm saying there's a big middle part that cuts out and Matt comes in whenever he feels like it. You could just, the click could just disappear then. Yeah.

You could just have the click so it goes away and then it's up to you. It doesn't fucking matter. Yeah, it'd be fine. I don't know. I'm trying to help you out. Yeah, I appreciate this. Because we have that a bunch of times. In fact, we did have that because Drew was out of time quite a lot.

No, there was one bit in Good Night Out of Right where Drew would do it as he pleased. And if I had a click, it would just. fuck everything else. All I did was I just cut that out. So he can still do it as he pleases. And the rest of the songs are that click. But you don't have, do you have like samples and stuff in your set? But they're all separate.

They are now. I have the click pan to the right and then the samples pan to the left. Okay. Which, you know what? That's, in my head, the way that we always used to do it when I was a kid. Like when you had any kind of sampling or anything like that, you would pan a click right, tracks left. I'm saying tracks,

but it's just like noises and shit. And then I would take the click into my monitor and then a DIY box for the samples so then we're all in time. The amount of bands that I've played with on this last run where they're turning up with the big fucking rack and all the playback and all this shit

just to do exactly the same thing I'm doing. It's so much gear. They would just be like, how are you running your tracks? and be off my phone. Yeah, and I'm like literally off of this. And they're like, but how? And then I explain how and they're like,

I thought that was genius. I thought that was like the dumb way. Yeah, like that's how everybody did it. Yeah. They've forgotten because they get told, well, the only way to do this is to have a laptop and to do all this fucking shit. And if you're like our band or your band,

you've just got some fucking noises. Yeah, it's just like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Like, super easy. Although I do like the fact that is Eric still doing the, yeah. Oh, yeah.

He's got his little foot pedal. Yeah, I love that. It's fun. That's fucking sick. Well, it's cool it too because it leaves it up to him. Sometimes he'll just kind of be feeling slutty and he'll just fucking, oh, running a little of nowhere. Yeah.

That's sick. I hope he does something on it. Yeah. What was I going to say about that as well, about the booms? Oh, I'm trying to start this thing where me and Drew have this thing now. I started with me and now Drew's on board. Anytime something a minor inconvenience happens, I've started doing bass drops

like in real life so like if I step like say you're on the bus and I accidentally step on someone's foot or their Jordans as I'm leaving the bus I'll just go hmm I set some mood man

I'm trying to like I feel like that could be really cool but I want to do it I'm still building up the courage to do it when something really bad happens when you're sat around and someone tells you like oh my God did you hear

and I just go and everyone's like, and I'll just go, they're like, what? Are you okay? No, it's just, like, it's a big moment in the set. It's a big moment in life. It's a really heavy spot. It's a real heavy spot.

It's like, whenever you watch movie trailers, they do that. Yeah. They'll be like, and then in 1944. I want to do it. I'm going to have to pull off the door. My grandma died. And I just go,

drop an 808 there. I'd get, in trouble. If anyone listening, please start this off. It's quite hard to do an A.O.8. It helps if you have a microphone. It helps if you do this as well.

That was a fucking A.O. That's fucking good. That's going to wake up whales and shit out in the ocean. Can I get one from each of you? We're going to have to sample. We're going to have to sample you. Oh, he's got that long shit. That feels good, too.

You've got that long shit. Oh, you, I want the, I want the static picture. Yeah, you've got a real A-Way. That could be a kick drum. Nice. Drummer shit. You were involved.

Yeah, I did it. He was a drummer. I did. I played drums. Did you? Yeah. Not very well. 2005, six, seven.

Gave up. Didn't care. I sucked. Yeah. It was funny because... Where I was a vocalist so much. Me and a drummer of a first band I was ever in. If we were just going to Brass Tacks with it,

he was a better drummer than me and I was a better vocalist. So then when we started. our second band because the Kubla Khan is only the third band who we did you know what I mean and a lot of those dudes from that band became the first you know prototype of Kubla Khan or whatever and we switched and dude I would never go back I don't know how fuck you guys do all this shit you guys are just talking okay bro I hate it so much and you got to carry so much shit but the only reason anyone cares about this shit which actually makes me money is because I'm doing that other shit.

At this point, I'm going to work when I go to play the drums, like, and then everything else is like... Eric always brings up a really funny point, though. He's like, man, he's like, the whole time we've ever been a band, he's like, Isaac's had gotten to sit down for every show. He's like, I have to stand up every single day. But you're still doing... Oh, I'm sprinting for half an hour.

Yeah, running on the spot. Let me ask you a question. Hit me. As someone who knows very little about drums. Go. Do you like the drum thrones that have the back on them? Why do you like the ones that you're just done? Because I see the ones of the back on them and I'm like, why do you need that?

You're playing drum. You're not working in an office. You're playing drums. Why do you need a back rest to in between songs? Oh, yeah. So I actually, when I was recovering from my broken back. Oh, God. Now I feel like I got kickhead.

Cancel. Cancelled. Um. There it is. I used one for then for just like being able to stretch in between songs, but really,

you don't play one either. Realistically, where you should be on your drum throne, now obviously you've got a different body type, where you should be on your drum throne to play the drums and where those backrests come to, that shouldn't really be touching your back.

Like it's only, you can use it in between songs. Yeah, That's what I assumed it is for whenever you get a chance to chill the fuck out. But I don't think he would like, see some guy playing and he's like, fucking laying back. He's like really getting the money's worth that on that fucking backrest. I feel like I agree with the little bar ones because you could technically you could push it so far

and then you could just have a little lean back in between songs. But the ones that are like an office chair. Yeah. Like you look pretty fucking lame. When you could like probably attach like a cup holder and shit. Oh, I tell you what. there are you know who I think uses those and is way better than me at the drums is the guy that plays drums for the black volume rider i'm pretty sure he has a fucking office chair oh okay

and he's ripped maybe he knows something we don't think yeah he is very like i said i'm saying this from an incredibly ignorant peon-worm style of of knowledge well i like it i just get curious as someone who isn't anything else you're curious about drums yeah i don't know man why Why you got to still play a wooden sticks? You think they'd fucking figure that out by now, huh? You ever seen one of these? This is one of Lars Orix drum six. This is literally his.

Really? Can I touch it? Yeah. But that is made, there's, there's plastic, and then in the middle is aluminum. Aluminium? Thank you. Two separate words, though. That's a good drumstick.

It's not. No? They're not good, but he gave these to my friend to give to me. That is pretty sick, though. That is pretty sick. What else I got? I haven't put it up there yet. I've got one of the tortilla man from Slipknotes,

the thing that he hits the Malik with. Because we saw him watching him side stage, and I was like just fucking taking videos of him. You know the guy that hits the fucking TV? Yeah. Yeah. And at the end of the show, chuck me one of his sticks. Got one of those. You need to hang that up.

I need to get that up here. What other cool? I've got other cool shit that I've forgot to put up. This is when I was on TV. That was pretty cool. was on TV yeah I remember that that's the fucking best

being on TV as big time best fucking shit ever yeah blew up the fucking internet for a couple of days got fucking paid was everybody cool to you and shit so sick you know what was the best thing security every single day

fucked with me because I just didn't look like I was supposed to be there everyone else was like fucking NBC people and security were like where's your past where did you get this blah blah and I was like this is fucking badass yeah this is fucking I'm fucking fish out of

water shit. Welcome to the big time, baby. It was fucking sick. I want to go back. I said I can go back. I just got to figure it out. You should. It was fucking sick.

And I got like, you get paid for doing it. And then you get paid residuals on. You get like the royalty. Yeah, because it's on demand. Yeah. So anytime anyone, because the songs, the jingles, you write that morning. So you get the writing credit for the song. and then you get the residuals off that forever.

Like obviously not a lot. I love some passive, some royalty, some passive income. Oh, man. Like, I don't think in fucking 10 years anyone's going to be digging up an old, like, NBC TV show. But they could. Even if you get a check for a dollar in 10 years, it's still just like you didn't do anything for that money.

Last episode I did with Paul from Cannibal Corps. They still get checks from... Is Ventura? And he was like... It's not much, but you still get to check and it's from Paramount pictures. Yeah, like that feeling. The money or whatever, it's that feeling.

It was like the first thing I asked. Yeah. I was like, number one, Ace Ventura. Florida. Maybe Ace Ventura is when I fell in love with Florida. Yeah. Very Florida movie. It's a pretty similar.

It's a lot. Wasn't that the whole, first one is with the dolphins, right? Yeah. Where it's a dolphin. Is that in Florida? Yeah. I haven't seen them.

Miami Dolphins, bro. What? Okay, yeah, that's cool. I'm Chris from Hain. Hey, I don't know shit about guns. I don't know shit about sports. I don't know shit about anything, man. I can't remember his fucking name and he was fucking face. But yeah, I think I've seen the second one more,

so I don't really know about the first one too much. The first one's way better. Yeah, well, that's how old you. 32, no. Yeah, the second one was probably when you were right there. Can I just tell you something real quick? Go on. Okay, I'm going to plug some shit, too, honestly.

Oh, plug it. Good. One of my favorite, because I don't have cable television. I don't even have a TV. I live in a camper. I don't have shit. But I love watching YouTube. And there's a guy from here in Glasgow.

He's called The Critical Drinker. He does funny movie reviews. And I hang on his every fucking word, right? Really? I love him, dude. He's fucking hilarious. He's like just this guy. What's the vibe?

His whole bit is being like, a drunk Scotsman, I guess. That's a lot of there. But he's very, dude, he's so smart and his movie reviews are tight, but I've been waiting for him to put out the one for the new Indiana Jones movie. He watches the movie, sorry, I'm Googling this now,

I am listening to you. Yeah, he watches a movie and then just puts out a very, like, it's very articulate and smart and well-thought-out kind of review, but it's also just fucking hilarious. And he adds in all these little bits and stuff that I'm sure from like Scottish television and stuff that I wouldn't get but are still funny.

Yeah. But he did the one on the new Indiana Jones movie and I love Indiana Jones. Like those movies are so good. And that's what I said because you were like, oh, no, no, that's what I'm saying. You were like, oh, the first one's good, but then it's like, and I'm like, that's how it typically goes. And now like the Indiana Jones movies, in my opinion, the first three, that's about as solid as you can get for a trilogy. But then they put out Crystal Skull. who gives a shit

They put out this new one dude I didn't even know There was a new one Yeah His review is scathing And I love it I love watching him Just like rip it apart

1.3 million years Already yeah He put it out a couple days ago And yeah Big money that is That's crazy money He actually yeah And he breaks down

The video he did before That one was about Indiana Jones And talking about how The budget that they spent On that movie And how much it was And how much they're losing

Their asses and they just can't stop. And I'm kind of going off on my own tangent here, but it's like, why can't they stop fucking everything up? Why do they got to take everybody's childhood and run it through a fucking meat grinder? Jurassic Park is my favorite movie of all time, okay?

Lost World's not bad. It's not bad. Jurassic Park 3 can suck a cock. And everything onwards. Here's the thing. When I went to theaters and I saw the first Jurassic World with Chris Pratt, I was like, I came in with an open mind, which I try not to do because they're always going to let you down.

I saw it still sucked, but I was like, damn, that wasn't as bad as I thought. Saw the other one. I don't even remember the fucking name of the second one. It was so fucking bad. Saw the third one. Dude, have you ever sat in a movie theater? Once bitten, twice bitten. Thrice been?

Here's the thing. And I told all the dudes, I kept being like, I don't care what they say. I don't care how much they advertise it. I'm not going to support that movie because I'm talking. tired of supporting them fucking up everybody's childhoods when saw the movie and dude it's one of those things you could tell when you sit in the theater within the first five minutes I was sitting in my chair and just like watching the movie I go oh fuck this is this is bad already yeah dude like this is about to fuck my day up you know and I'll be honest probably top five worst movies I've

ever seen in my whole motherfucking life nice you took every one of my childhood character Sam neal in the first Jurassic Park. Sam Neal's in this? Yeah. And he's just bad. They just deconstruct him. They make him a huge weener and he's just lame and he's got all these stupid lines and it's all these remember when kind of jokes and it's like, man, you guys can't just

fuck off. Do you know what it is? Fucking old people. Yeah. It's the same with music. It's the same with legacy bands not getting a fucking young producer who knows what's up and loves their old shit. And getting them to go, help, and just going to them and going, help us.

Like, because you've got your, you've got your one foot in our history and you've got one foot in new shit. Like, imagine Metallica went to Will Puckney. Like, something all fucking Randy. You know what I mean? Like, it would be insane. There's no way they would fuck it up. It would be the best fucking album they've done in years. Have a billion dollar budget.

No one's going to do it because old people, not them. I mean, their team. Yeah. don't fucking get it. It's the same... That's Hollywood, man. They take all these fucking movies and they're just like,

yeah, we could do another one. And it's like, you don't need to do that it was so good without another one. Just don't do another one. Even with movies where they do get it, like I watch the new Evil Dead and I like all the Evil Dead movies. I like...

See, I know you're going to do this face. I thought as an Evil Dead movie, all the gore and the funnierce and shit was all awesome and I liked it I had a good time. However, I think it was written I don't know who wrote it but whoever wrote it I know

their age I know it was like it felt like the the storyline like interweaved was like they got their education on how the world is now from the internet and they went

this is how everyone talks now but it was obviously like a fucking 50 year old just like this is like this is how the kids talk now that's making them talk like this and then all the time like everyone will love this yeah no kid he's talking like yeah and I kind of get like just get get the kid that you're writing for to write the fucking movie yeah just hire somebody

just go back to basics with storytelling and like I saw that movie too the newest one the one that they put out before where it starts raining blood from the ceiling or whatever at the end I thought that was pretty goddamn good is that 2013 mark yeah yeah and I'm not like an evil dead guy or anything like that either but like I saw this latest one where we saw it over here I didn't go oh god damn well we saw it over here huh is that in your top five worst it was like just it's like it's like if you just dumped a bunch of ketchup on a goosebumps episode and we're like we're just

gonna make it bloody that's what it felt like are you the movie critic in the no but god damn i'm tired of it there is a segment that I'm gonna not do for this episode because you need to go to the venue. And there's usually a segment when we talk about a dream festival, right? I've been, in my head, I've been like, I kind of hate this segment. So I'm not going to do it on this episode. Why'd you tell us? No, because if people miss it, then they'll comment and tell me they miss it. And if they didn't miss it, then they'll go whatever.

The thing about that segment is, we run, we run through, like, what your dream line up for a festival, what your dream, a hotel, what your dream catering, all this shit is, right? And the theory is that it's supposed to be like a dream, like literally a dream, like, you woke up, and like, remember that dream? I told you earlier, which please don't. something as outlandish as that happening right i just i want that no you can't have that so like something out and the thing is if this if someone sat there that i don't know

it then gives them a conversation because we've had a conversation you know we talk about chipole i can't get someone i don't fucking know to talk about chariot but i kind of fucking hate it but what i want to know now is your top five movies well we do both of you but you are you are like a fucking movie critic top five movies of all times All right. Well, I'm just going to... Okay, if I think too long, it's going to get crazy, so I'm just going to give him to you right off the boat. Jurassic Park, horse gump.

Yeah, nice. Conair. Conair's fucking awesome. Leather weapon. And then probably goddamn... I was an action guy. Yeah, I don't want to say die hard because I just said Leather Weapon, but I do love diehard.

But I would say probably like... Look who's talking? Anything, dude. Wow. You're like 19th baby. I know, dude, and I just, I'm submerged in that nostalgia. I watched kindergarten cop the other day. Yeah, but that's, that's, I cried.

You know what I'm saying? That's a move. That'll bring a grown man on his knees. The one where he's talking about his dad and the fucking, oh, yeah, you know, my dad's not around anymore on the shit. And I was just like, and then you got fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger being like, yo, if you fucking hit either one of them again, I'm pressing charges or whatever. Yeah.

And she's all like, oh, no, don't do that. And he's like, and then he ends up punching the dude out and shit. I'm like, that's some real shit, man. Like, these movies nowadays aren't talking about that kind of shit. You know what I'm saying? You should start a YouTube channel of you watching movies. Nobody could care. They'd be like, what the fuck?

I'm watching it right now, and I'm like, this is fucking awesome. I'll tell you what, though, Nicholas Cage and Conair, best style that's ever been, ever put to film. You're still bringing some of that. Why do you think I have ever worn a wife beater tucked into blue jeans? It's because I grew up watching Conair. Fuck, yeah. Watching fucking Danny Trejo and Ving Rhames on a fucking plane fucking shit up.

Watch your, um... What's your face off? You like Face Off, are you a Face Off guy? Never seen it. I know, bro. Never seen it. There's a lot of movies like that. You love Conair and you haven't seen Face Off.

I've never seen Heath. I've never seen Face Off. I know the whole, don't take my face out and fuck my wife with my face. That's the meme, but oh my God. I would personally put it above Conair for me in 90s. action. It's Tom Cruz. Nicholas Cage and John Travolta.

John Travolta. That's right. He had some good goddamn movies. God, you need to watch. I need you on this tour. Yeah. In that shitty little van. There's a TV.

Yeah. We'll put it on. You ask him his. Top 5. I'll just keep him. Matrix. Number one. Number one.

What did you think of the new Matrix? I haven't seen it. Don't care to. I'm a new Matrix apologist. I didn't like two. or three, but I liked four. I've heard this. My problem is, I'm with him.

You made this perfect thing, this perfect world. Just let it be. It's already done. Can I try and sell you on the Matrix 4 before? And people will be like, that movie was fucking dog shit. Here's what happens. So the Wachowski's were told, we're going to make a new Matrix movie.

Are you in? And they said no. And they said, well, we're going to make it weather or not, you're going to do it or not. I heard that. So are you in? So then what they did was made the movie,

made a proper meta subplot where Keanu Reeves' character, Neo, is now a games designer who can't remember the old shit. And his championship game, like his best game that he made, they were going to remake it

with him or without him. So he ruins the game. And it's like the whole time I'm watching it. I'm like, they made this, movie shit on purpose as a fuck you to Warner Brothers and then referenced it in the movie. So for the rest, I didn't care about the plot or anything. I was like, that's the most punk thing I've ever fucking seen in my life.

Anyway, sorry, carry on. I like that. Matrix number one. Matrix number one, Hellraiser 1 and 2. Yeah, those are two and three. They're just perfect. Hellraiser 2. I think I might like it more than Hellraiser 1.

Their one movie as far as I'm concerned. Like, they just go together. I love, I love, like, horror in, like, all that stuff, but those are just the best. Is that I am in hell, please help me, seen How is it too? One of the best fucking seen to ever. It's so good.

Also, who is it? Is it, what's the name? Is it Mono Ryder? Who is in the Razor 2? I can't remember. I haven't watched it. I want to go back and watch, like, one through 15 or whatever they're on.

I want to watch. them all in order. Do you know that band? There's a tech band called CryptoDera who are from around, like they record the Randy and stuff. They record for Steve actually. Mike from Cryptodira

does Hellraiser 1-2, I think it's 13 or whatever it is, once a year. And they do it back to back and it's a 24-hour experience. No. They're bad. They're bad.

They get exponentially worse after like two. Yeah, I just need to, I feel like I need to do it. I need to refresh and watch them all. Okay, next.

All right. Oh, I had it and I lost it. Terminator, two. Judgment. Good saying with the two. Yeah.

Terminator one, it's good, but two is, it sets it up for the best action movie ever made. Two is, why isn't it in your five then? Yeah.

Is it a six? I need to make one change when he's done. Okay. Terminator two is. Yeah. Perfect movie. I don't want to go

to your show. I want to watch Hellraiser 2 and Terminator 2, but luckily, there's a band on after you, so I'm going to watch your band, then I'm going to go home and watch Terminator 2. What an evening. I don't even have a fifth. He must do.

I would have to think. I would have to think. I'd have a good horror then if you like horror. If Hellraises your number one horror and watch your number two horror, because I'm a horror guy. I just have, I have such bad memory. I can't think of anything. What did you think of hereditary?

Oh, a perfect movie. Yeah. So good. It's so good. Have you seen... Have you seen... Did you do Mid-Summer as well? Yeah, I didn't like it quite as much.

Same. I felt like... Good scenes. Good scenes, it just... It's the same director and it felt like the same movie to me just with a different lens on it. Have you seen Bo as afraid?

Not yet. Yeah. I mean, that's a different movie. Yeah. That was my biggest problem is he did Hereditary Perfect. And then Mid-Summer was a perfect movie. but to me it was just the same movie. Yeah, if someone else...

It was so, so similar. Yeah. But I was afraid I didn't... I watched it and went, that was crazy and that was it. Yeah. I didn't know what the fuck was happening during that movie. Bowies of Freight?

Oh, I thought he was talking about Medsummer. Oh, wow. You then you won't even... I also... Bories of Freight, you just don't know what's happening. I hate... I hate movies where the subplot is... They did drugs?

Did this actually happen? was it a dream i don't like i feel like it's cheap writing it is it's very english i mean i don't think that with midsummer i think it's pretty sure it didn't happen yeah when movies do that i saw one recently even like fucking you know adam's hand the movie click i've never seen it you never seen click you've seen click yeah he lies down on a bed in bed bath and beyond and then he wakes up and then everything crazy happens and yeah the minute that happened that happened and the minute that happened. I remember watching that whenever it came out and I was like, if that is the motherfucking twist, I'm going to kill someone. Like, and it was.

What's your remembers? Thanks for ruining it. I'm never seen it. I was going to go watch it after the show. If you haven't seen Click by now or fucking face off, then you're never going to watch them. What's your amendment? Who's getting out of, all right? Look, like I said, I love Look Who's Talking. That's one of the, I grew up on that movie. He's a kid, right? But I got to scrap it because honestly, and we're taking that out of the top five and we're bumping the new movie to probably second. Predator. I wondered if you were going to say predator. You look like a predator guy.

I got in a panic and it slipped through my brain. But the minute that you said, I don't know what the fucky said, but it made me think a predator. Our backdrop for like tour all the time, you know the scene? Our video wall. Yeah, our video wall is the scene from Predator where one of the fellas just starts shooting in in the fucking jungle and then all of them just come in and start mowing down the jungle and killing everything in the jungle.

With the fucking big Gatling guns. Yeah. We put our logo over that on a loop. And we've just played shows with that. So the whole background is just muscle just fucking awesome. I love your band so much. Yeah, it was a good time. Anyway, we're fucking done.

I'm not doing the Dream Festival. If you don't know Kubla Khan, you're an idiot. If you go to the gym and you don't know Kubla Khan, you're obviously a pussy. Say it again. Say it again for him. Just listen to the band unless you don't like heavy music. I had a lovely time I'm going to give you a lift to the show

We'll see a show We had a nice lift Nice Nandoes Was the coffee all right Coffee was great You were right Yeah It was one of the nicest coffees

I've had in ages I'm going to do Thanks to the Patreon For the how nice the cameras are Patreon.com for slash the downbeat I've got to get you some downbeat Clothes actually We've got to go ready closet

To closet It's like almost doors I think Yeah Them doors man We show up When we show up We'll kick it down. It gives a shit.

Let's go, let's go, let's go. Thank you guys. Give me some shit. Don't give me fucking hanging. Peace. Bye-bye.