The Downbeat - VINNIE MAURO: Motionless In White, Horror Movies, Ghost Stories & Wild Warped Tour Moments

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

My guest on the podcast this week is Vinny Mauro of Motionless In White. In this special Halloween SPOOK-TACULAR we talk about ALL the creepy stuff: ghosts, his investigations of the paranormal, and we also create his horror movie villain dream blunt rotation. Thanks to everyone on the patreon for providing the decorations and fog-machine for the most TERRIFYING episode of the podcast yet...

What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Downbeat podcast on this Halloween spooktacular. It is a spooky time. I want to thank everyone on the Patreon before we even start, because as we start this episode, you are going to see, we decorated. I've undecorated now, was that a word? I don't know. But it looks cool. We bought a fog machine. All in honor of today's guest, which is one of the most requested guests in Downbeat history. It's Vinny from Motionless in White. He's in one of the spookiest metalcore bands. go in, it seemed right to do it on Halloween. At his request, it's pretty silly. He was about to go on tour and bring me the horizon, so obviously we did talk about that. We also talk about his experience in paranormal investigations. You can find those on YouTube. We talked about his dream blunt

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Listeners of the podcast can get a massive 30% off any plug-in at neuraldsp.com by going there and using the code downbeat. Check it out. It's Vinny from Motionless in White on the Downbeat podcast. Hello. Hi. Hi. How are you doing? I'm good.

Thanks for coming on the podcast. Yes. Thank you for having me. Thanks for doing my makeup. Yes. I hope you like the spooky set. Yeah. You made some preps.

Shout out to you. Madison. Hey. Madison. I like your makeup. Thanks. I like your makeup. Thanks.

You got the memo. I did. It's very spooky there in your corner. Madison was the one that actually did all the spooking around there. I appreciate it. Madison was the one that made it all spooky. Thanks to Madison. I'm like, I really want to keep it.

I think that how many spooky guests do you have? Well, I guess it doesn't have to be a spooky. Did you, is this, was this targeted? Target. What do you mean? What do you mean? Was this target? Because I'm like in the spooky band. Oh, 100%. I didn't even think until you hit me up and said, I'm in Nashville. Do you want to do a podcast? And I was like, will you do the makeup? And you said, yeah. And I was like, oh my God, it's Halloween in like two weeks or whatever it is. Perfect episode. Stars aligned. And I've got some spooky things planned. I'm ready. I hope you guys are ready for a real spooky good time. Just doing it. Like the fact there's three.

Was that the smoke machine or was that Madison opening a drink? Listen, you probably... I wish it was a smoke machine. Let me tell you, my friend. We haven't even mentioned the smoke machine yet. If you're just listening to this episode, this is probably very boring. What a smoke machine for this? Me and Madison were like, okay, Halloween special last minute,

let's go to the Spirit Halloween. Obviously, we've got bandages, we got spiders webs, we got spiders, we got bats, we changed the downbeat light to green because green is the spookiest color. type of negative. And then I was like, I'm ingnarring. I walked past the fog machine and I was like, you know it would be real funny. It's a fog machine. She was like, that's too much.

And I was like, yeah, but that's exactly why we need to do it. It's perfect. So hopefully it looks good on camera. I mean, I've had the best day just setting this up. And I'm about to have the best night talking to you. How long were you in Spirit? Over the last seven days or just today. just today

put a number on it today was quite brief you've been there that many times this week I'd say twice in the last three days look at the state of her she hangs out as spirit holly she literally today at the counter

she was like I can get a job here and I was like you have a job on the podcast so how are you on the spot they're 100% I love spirit holly yeah it was sick I'd say we were in there for an hour today that's sick

and I would say an hour 15 last the other day. So like a mid-range Christopher Nolan movie. Tax right off, baby. Dark Night's, Dark Night Rises. I know, I'm going to use the fog machine for the drum stuff.

We've got to talk about stuff. We've got to, just shooting the shit. And I'm, you know, we're going to do that. Just ask me something. We've been, we've been shooting the hardest thing. I've got so much cool shit.

What are you doing in town? Why are you here? We're rehearsing. We have a tour coming up in about five days. And the tours with Bring Me the Horizon. Bring me the Horizon. That's crazy. Yes. Do you know those guys? You talked with them before? I've talked to them. I don't really know them. Yeah, one of my first tours actually ever was with them in 2014.

I put my dick in my friend's mouth in their green room, burst into their green room once because we thought it was a support band. I won't mention a support band that was rumoured to be like homophobic. And we were like, oh, we'll do a funny joke and we'll just burst in me. My friend were drunk and we were like, we'll burst in and do some gay shit. burst in did it looked up it was bring me but this was like 2010 okay so like following that every time i saw ollie that was the only thing he remembered but i speak to some of the other guys j jay their touring guitarist was in my death metal band oh he's a fucking legend that's sick he's the fucking man you're gonna have the best time you mentioned something just before this podcast started and i said stop talking because i want to ask you on the podcast because it was very interesting you i said what they you play at Louder Than Life? Mm-hmm.

And you said, I don't even know, I don't look at those dates. They give me anxiety. What did you mean by that? I meant pretty much exactly what, what is said. Yeah, but why? I don't know. I, like, I love being the band, whatever, obviously. I'm a big, how do I say this?

I don't know. When I'm off tour, I don't want to think about being on tour. I love touring. I love being with people. but it's like in playing for people and you know tour is great yeah when it's coming up when it's like about to happen i kind of like self-sabotage a lot okay and i do this i don't know it's a pattern that i have give me the pattern that i let's talk you know it's therapy spooky therapy like you were asking me earlier about my practice routine and i mean i i i quit not equated it but i likened it to

going to the gym, which is like something that like sometimes it feels like it's like something that I love playing the drums. I always have. But sometimes I'm like a little burnout. It just happens. So especially when I have a ton of time off and like say it's been like 12 months, 10 out of the 12 months, I've had no tour. So the first five, six of those months, you know, trying your heart is to be out of the burnout trying to like I'm going to be productive I'm at home I have all this time to do this I'm going to start going to the gym I'm going to do this blah blah blah month nine three four months later of doing the same thing every single day and I'm the only person that has control of my schedule and I have to be productive I have to do this I have to do that I have to do that life's so hard right uh Yeah, I'm basically complaining about having to play drums every day. No, we're getting to it. But I'm just saying, no, when I'm at home, I just, I get this thing after like, I just get

burned out. I don't know. I think I have ADHD or something, but I just get very, I'll get honed in on something and then I get burned out of it. And yeah, currently I'm in the burnout stage of not practicing. And that adds on to the anxiety of a tour is coming up. so I don't even want to think about it. I just want to show up and play.

I just want to, like, I don't want to think about the logistics, people coming out to whatever show and like. That one I hate. That gives me anxiety. I don't hate it, but. Not that it's all the same and every day is the same shit. Every crowd's the same thing. I'm not, I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying like it's hard for me sometimes to, I have to, I need to push myself to not do the same thing every single fucking day in my life because it burns me out. Yeah. when I'm at home practicing, preparing for a tour, I'm in a different world. I don't want to.

It just gives me anxiety. I'm like, oh, God, the big bad wolf is coming to get me in three weeks. So you just ignore it. Judgment days in three weeks. So you just ignore it. Because that would freak me out more. My brain is telling me to do it, and I will do anything not to do it.

Do you not think, but did you then not get a buildup of mega anxiety the closer? Yeah, you're anything. Yeah, just fucking practice a little bit. And there's five days left. Yeah. And I'm like, well, I got to practice eight hours these five days. I'm currently doing exactly what you're talking about for the first time in my life because these stray shows are coming up.

And like, not that I'm checked out because I can't wait for the fucking shows. But the drive to go and get myself to go and play these songs to practice them is not there. Because, you know, we're splitting up. And again, burn out. the last time we were we were on the same big long tours so like i'm having the same thing and i have shows next week and now it's hitting like i went and played the drums yesterday for the first time since the last show and then obviously i was rusty we did we did australia sorry we did do australia like a month ago okay but like even then yeah i'll just say i i won't go more than

three days ever without playing drones don't give me a big sob story about you're not practicing when you practice every three days Three days for every three day. That's good enough to you? I mean, to be like good enough, like coming up for a tour that's coming up. It's better than I'm doing in the moment.

But I used to do every day, yeah. I in my head, I need, okay, okay, I guess the reason I say that is because I had a big, like five years ago maybe at this point, had a big phase,

2018 to like, 2020, of like I didn't practice, like, barely at all. Like, and it caught up to me. Four years. Yeah, but, like, I was, I was practicing.

Like, I was not going a month without playing. But I was going, like, extending that, like, two, three days to, like, five, six days. And I was, like, maybe practicing once a week. And then COVID hit. And then I was like, why do I even need to practice? And just, like, you know, but it eventually got to a point where I was like, dude, I, why am I doing this? It's, like, I think I got complacent and comfortable. grew up my whole life practicing almost pretty much every day without even thinking about it

just wanting to play I mean you probably did the same exact thing growing up you know just playing every song that you could think of after school and whatever food fighters albums yeah just like exactly just like you're at school you can't wait to go home and play the full album or whatever yeah and even if you're not focusing on something to practice you're still practicing you're just playing yeah and uh yeah you're just getting better just from muscle memory and I've taught myself everything I haven't I don't I don't dude if you ask me a rudiment I know about three of them I know I know I just play like I just what you're doing you're like I don't fucking yeah I just play and it's just how it always has been and yeah it got to a point where because I wasn't

practicing I didn't have that like connection anymore to my my muscles and shit they're like wait we don't remember how to do this because we we barely even do this we don't know the word of the thing we're doing to Google it. Yeah, exactly. What's that thing I do? No idea. I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry, I definitely got off.

No, no, you should go every three days. You're not making me feel really fucking bad. I'm trying to go every three days now building up to the tour, but I've had so much time off. I do find if I have a bit of time off after a tour like a week and then I play, I'm like the better than I was for the whole tour. Like it's all sunk in. Yeah, that happened. Yeah, I agree.

But a month, I'm rusty, brother. Yeah, for sure. Out of breath. You can get away with, like, I mean, if you know how to do things with your hands, you pretty much just know how to do them. But, like, conditioning and stuff, it's just like, what the, yeah, exactly. If you don't do that for a month, it's like, wow, I'm walking through molasses right now. I can't play double kick at the moment.

It'll be fine. I know it'll be fine. I know from the last tour, my limit is like a month out, I need to start playing the drums properly. But I do want to, I think a part of it for me, not that this is therapy, not this is a drum podcast, because he's a spooky guy. We've got a spooky episode for you. I can't be sad. Stay tuned. Stay tuned.

It's going to be spooky. But like, scary stuff. I think, to make it about me, I think I suffered a little bit from the stray breakup where I was just like, what's a fucking point? Yeah, exactly. Why even practice it? Yeah. I don't have another band coming up and I still do kind of think that.

But I think going back to streaming, we're, we're, we're. solve that because I fucking love streaming. Yeah. Streaming the drums. Streaming, I have a weird relationship with that because of like me wanting, like when I sit down to the drums, I like don't even play along to songs anymore. Like I used to only do that.

Like that was like pretty much the only way I practiced. Your songs or just songs like in general. Like as growing up as a kid like I'll just say Messengers by Augustine Dread. That was like a song like a record that like I tried my artist. Yeah, I try like in high Honestly, that record is what transformed me into being able to play the drums, like, slightly competent to be able to, like, be in a metalcore band, et cetera.

Because, like, do there's stuff on there. Like, I never, ever, ever heard before, like, all the different, like, effects symbols, breakdowns, like, double kick, like, off meter chinas, and, like, whatever. Yeah, I was just obsessed with that. And then now I just, I don't know. What do you do in your stream then? What's your stream like?

Well, it used to be, I did, I was doing it three days a week and was doing like, what's it called? $10.10 requests. And I play like, whatever. Like literally anything. And the only reason it was $10 is because I didn't really exactly want to do requests. So I was, I just don't do it. If you give me $10, sure. If you want to spend that much, go ahead.

And then it started to be like way a lot. And I was like, dude, like the most that I ever did in a stream, I did like a fundraiser stream for like Black Lives Matter like three years ago or something. And it was like 42 songs or something or like 45 songs. And a lot of them were like metal and shit. And I'm like, dude, I can't even like. You can't jam a lot of these metal songs. You literally just. Nothing.

There's like, it's a breakdown into a pattern into another pattern into another pattern. I'm like, dude, what do you want me to do over top of this? Another up? do you want me to do my own pattern over their pattern? That sounds crazy. That's honestly why I didn't do. I think there was a button in my chat that was like, if someone asked for a request,

it was like, donate a thousand dollars to a charity and I'll play whatever song you want. No one ever did it obviously. Everyone's like, I'll play bleed. It's like, motherfucker, I can't play. Yeah. I can't fucking do that shit. But basically what I was saying,

I was like, I don't view like the stream as like practice. Like, I'm performing at that point. Like there's just a, there's a, I mean, you know, there's like adrenaline involved. But that is practicing for stage. I always thought of it on that. No, for sure.

It definitely is. No, you're right. But practicing the drums. Like, when I'm on stage, like, when people are like, oh, dude, you've been playing the same songs for 30 days straight. You should, you know, you should be better at these. And I'm like, dude, when I'm on stage, I, my brain is not even on. Like, it's just like, I'm just, I'm performing. Like, I'm just trying to look.

cool. I'm trying to like, you know, whatever. Just like play, thanks. Just trying to play it up and, you know. But obviously play the parts right, but I'm just saying like, I'm not like, I'm not a, I'm not gaining strength behind the drums and getting better at like a pattern. You're not focused in the moment enough to learn from whatever you did. It's just pure adrenaline. You never practice on the stream.

I always do it. People hate it and fucking. Well, that's why it's like I don't want to just do it. also it sounds bad. I don't want to look like a fool in front of people. I am. It's my biggest few. I'm perfectly fine with looking like a fool. I don't want to look like the clown with the makeup on.

The makeup is one thing. I don't want to look like an actual clown. Speaking of looking cool, this makeup is pretty cool. I think I look good. I think you look good. Thank you. I think Madison looks good. We all look good.

I've got a question about it. Also, I want to say, just a real quick shout out to, this is not even an ad. Cursed Cosmetics. Shout out. Because obviously I saw you using the palette today. Yeah. That girl, Madame cursed, I think that's her name.

I don't know what her real, like her first name is. I assume the surname is cursed. It's Madam. It's Madam. It's Madam, it's Madam Curse. Anyway, she like, after I did, we took that photo, she was like, oh, I send you some stuff. And I was like.

And she sent you stuff? She sent me so much stuff. That's awesome. So, like, she's really nice. Big shout out. And it's really good. Madison approved. Oh, yeah.

I'll admit, though, Madison is wearing a Blackfell Bride set today. The Chris one? Yeah. Oh, that's what you did that was? She's crossing the streams. The reds are really pretty on that palette. Is there a motionless set? There was talks of it.

I don't think it ever panned out, obviously. Come on, guys. Get me paid. Yeah, we were talking earlier about you. I don't think anyone wants to buy a drum plugging off me. Tell you what they would buy. I thought there was a palette. Or did it never come out?

Maybe it's stuff. being solved. But that's what, it looks like, yeah, there was a palette. Wasn't there one it looked like a globe? That's exactly what I did. Yes, yes, yeah. There it was. There was a motion is in white palette, but it needs to come back, guys.

If you want the motionless and white palette back, then hit up cursed cosmetics. Don't fucking ask me. Anyway, I got a question. So, do you, did you design the Vinnie? Wait, what's your government name? First off. Vincenzo. Vincenzo.

Vincenzo. Oh, so that is the government name. Oh, what a cool name. Yeah. That's why if you're saying like, because Chenzo Morrow, yeah. Yeah, you sound like a mob boss anyway. You don't look like one with this sweet makeup on. I started going by Vinch recently.

Vinch? Yeah. Nice. I've heard VIN, I've heard Chenzo, and then I try, I like met in the middle. Vinch. Is that canon? Do people know that yet? Some people.

Now they do. Recently got my PhD, some Dr. Vinch as well. Dr. Vinch. Yeah. Dr. Vint. And like one name, like, Seal. Yeah. Just vinch.

Just vinch. That's fucking sick. Dude, did you come up with the Vincenzo makeup? Or was it like a group effort? You just got to do what you want? No, they were, we were doing the,

one of the photo shoots for scoring the end of the world. And it was like, we all had like this like cyber like kind of get up. Yep. Like almost like looking like robotic suits. I don't even think they came out actually, those pictures. But yeah, we were just like, we want to do like lines on our face, like maybe like, I don't know, like cyberpunk aesthetic, like weird kind of like cyborg, like whatever, you know.

Yeah. And yeah, we just ran. I was like, I don't know, I'll just do this, I guess. Was that the, and it looked just like that. Just like that. She's got the OG shit on. Yeah. Did you, was that the first thing you did or did you like play around and there's some stuff that didn't work?

That was the first thing I did. Just an artist. I guess. I just fucking banged it out. Okay, if you compare my original one, like for example, we did. It was for Sign of Life was the first time that I had the like lines for promos. Yeah, sign of life music video. And that version versus like what it looks like now with like when Angela, shout out

Angela. I was going to say, is there someone that does it for you? Yeah. She makes it look awesome. I mean, she is an insane. Does she do it better than you? Absolutely. Yeah.

She made, yes. Every, every cool picture that you've seen of me online where my makeup looks cool is by her for sure. Nice. She does everyone's? No, she does. Does everyone have their own one? No, no, no. No, she's the only one.

Okay. Or you mean like their own, like. That's one. So everyone has their own makeup. So I'm like, is Angela doing all of you? She's doing everyone in one day? Yeah. So do you have like a board, like, who's what time everyone's in?

Ryan's usually like, like, one's usually like, Wait, it was always me, Ryan and Chris. Justin does his own. Justin does his own, yeah. Always. Yeah, he doesn't want anyone else to do it. Man, his is crazy as well. You would expect his is a professional makeup artist.

Yeah, he spends like, he starts his routine like two hours, three hours before the set. He got the eyes going and shit as well. He puts like paint on his teeth and shit. Every time we've done it, for those of you that don't know. There's twice now that I've played the end of Slaughterhouse and done it with the makeup on. And every time I get that makeup on and I'm about to go on stage, I'm like, this is the sickest shit ever. This is what I should have been doing so long ago.

I should have been in a makeup band. I love it. I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, you're not wearing a mask. So it doesn't feel as anonymous, but it definitely still makes you feel cool. It makes you feel like a different person, like you're acting. Yeah, like when you're like in your, you know, know your outfit and you just feel cool sometimes i i feel like i feel cool like i mean yeah no before i go on stage i'd like to feel cool i just walk up in like whatever it's like i've been

wearing this all day but it's like like we were talking about earlier we burn out and long tours or whatever it kind of just feels like sometimes when you're like four weeks into a tour it's like i'm going to the office yeah whereas if i was putting on war paint yeah no it's cool it's definitely like as soon like I always do it exactly two hours before I set like before we play yeah so if we play it seven five o'clock I will start my my stuff every single time and it's like

I don't know when you said the war pain like as I'm putting it on it's like I'm like getting in the you've got music on when you do it you got like a playlist make up playlist Vince's makeup playlist you don't necessarily do it in silence no no I mean I listen to music but or just something, but it's never like the same.

I think I'd go full wanker theatrical. I'd have like a whole hands in my thing. Yeah. To play in Australia. What's this fucking guy doing? Usually I'm listening to like a YouTube video or something or like Twitch or something. Makeup tutorial. Yeah.

How do I fucking do this again? What's a paradigil? I just actually, yeah, I go in TikTok and I look up, what's a paradittle? And then there's a picture and picture. somebody playing the predator and then somebody doing my makeup also and then also temple run running

for the concentration somebody's cutting something and then soap cutting and hydraulic press barren matthesons losing her shit so yeah soap cutting is sick though I could do a whole two hours on soap cutting big fan you just watch it yeah sick dude I try it so so hard not to fall into the brain rot you are fucking king brain bro I've seen your Twitter

I'm not I promise dude That is all for my brain That has nothing to do I don't go into that anymore Which is rotting It has been rotten I've rotted it Yeah but you can't come back

You're right You're in, you're in But I don't have the memes in my head That's what I'm trying to say I don't know I don't know shit You do I don't know nothing

I just spent the last hour and a half Hangan out of you Your brain is mush It is It is I know It's mine and so's hers But they're different They're different

flavors of rot You think we've got Different brain rots Yeah Go on Yeah, you guys got a TikTok brand maybe. I don't go on TikTok. I don't even have, I don't go on TikTok.

Like if I showed you my Instagram real algorithm, you would be like, what the, I feel like half of my brain rot is self-rotted, and then the other half is like an STI from Madison's brain rock. That way it's just on, and I've caught it from a, I'm just what, and I'm like, what's that? I will say my most recent, that's funny.

My most reason find of an Instagram page that I love is this guy who just shows pictures of brain rot things to people in the street. I never seen that. Yeah, I have seen that. And they just freak out. But like the brain rot things that have names. Like sometimes, yeah, like the Trell a lot, like that thing. Have you seen the video?

This is pure brain rot now. Have you seen the video of that guy showing the Rizzler? Are you aware of the Rizler? Yeah. I'm aware of that guy. Okay. So there's a video of a guy showing the Rizler or the Brain Rock characters. And the Rizler is speed running it.

Yes. It's, I've never seen BrainRot like it. And it's like, it's like a meta on BrainRot because the Rizler himself is, you know, brain rock culture. And then he's reeling off these names and he gets like everyone right. It's a proper speed run. That's the stuff I watch on the internet. That's meta.

While you're all leaving comments being hateful to each other, watching the Rizzler, okay? Be more like the Rizler. You ever do ASMR? No. Not do. Like listen to it? You can do it right now.

You ever listen to it? You ever listen to it? That was really good. These microphones. Sure, SM7B. Give me that. Wait, it's not, it's not doing the thing. Keep going.

What do you mean not doing the thing? Do more sounds around it. Okay, well. Like scratch, too aggressive, too aggressive. Okay. you're too aggressive viny you're be gentle with it be nice and be very very gentle speaking that got me go go go

no don't laugh don't spoil it happened it made my neck tingle don't stop I'm nearly there this is your brain grill that's really nice do you not know what the thing is I don't know what you're talking about Do you know what the thing is?

Were your brain tingles? Yeah, the brain tingles that it does. I know what you're talking about. Do you get them? No, well, I mean, not with ASMR. Maybe I would if I watched it. Madison gets it. I get them so bad.

It's crazy. I don't watch it now. I feel, okay. I don't watch it now. I don't know. I'm going to say that I think ASMR is sexually charged. And it makes me feel weird listening to it. So I don't want to do it.

Listen. What? I could sit here and deny and refute your claims. I went through a big ASMR period maybe like five years ago. Okay. I only watched the hot ones. That's what I'm trying to say here.

But I wasn't like jorking it. It wasn't janking or jorking. Why are you looking at me so funny? Because I... Go on. She views it wholesomely. I do. Usually, when I started listening to ASMR,

it was usually to help with anxiety. If I was having a big anxiety attack, I'd put something on and I can focus on the sounds. So it's never been like sexually charged for me. And I don't. No, I don't know. I don't know.

That's just why I haven't given it a try because I'm like, is this like a sex thing? I mean, I definitely didn't get. I don't know if. Be very careful, Craig. I don't know. It was never like, I wasn't jorked up from it. But when I'm going through the thumbnail, it's like, oh, barbershop,

ASMR or whatever. Like I'm looking at thumbnails and I'm like, and then I do click the hot one. Okay. But sometimes the hot one's bad. And I'll go to the next one and then not like traditionally hot,

but I would enjoy. Basically I'm saying, I only watch the ones with girls. I tried to watch the ones with guys and I went, well, this feels a bit gay. And you feel like, because I was bricked up from that one.

That was the problem. Those ones were sexually. No, it was actually the deep, voices, ruin it. Deep voices. Yeah, like a guy doing ASMR doesn't do the brain tingle for me, but like a girl. They do like the, the, like, the vocal fry. What's the vocal fry?

The bat. No. Like, you know the, like, E-boy voice? You know what I'm talking about? I think I know the guy. The, like, Valorant, like, that's what I mean. Give me, give me an example. He's like, what's up?

Oh, yeah, I know that guy. That guy. What do you mean? I think that guy followed me the other day. That guy. You know, the guy that's got like a million followers. Oh, Cork. That guy?

400 million fucking octaves. Yeah. Is he got loads of tattoos? They never, I don't think anyone's seen what that guy's look like. Oh, no. Some guy with loads of tattoos and like a million followers follow me. Oh, wait. I know who you're talking about.

He's got face tattoos. Yeah. And I like watched it. I was like, what? Let me have a look at this guy's videos. He's just got creepy. He's like a shoegaze artist guy. Yeah.

And he's active. His voice is like, what's up? I got a tattoo. productive range and yeah and then he like go that like and then he's like like real fucking high i was super impressed anyway i don't watch his ASMR i don't watch ASMR anymore but it was like a period in my life actually probably i was quite anxious and i did watch quite a lot of ASMR and that's what got me on to the soap cutting because it was soap cutting ASMR that's how my brain rotted that's where that's where the brain began you went too far it was shortly after a southeast asia tour

hadn't slept for like five days so I think you're like I need some videos to calm me down nice noises these are these are bad that's not a good noise they're I'll mention is slime videos slime videos slime videos you never seen a slime video no I don't watch ASMR I don't know wait is it it's a that's an ASMR only like sticky voices they look like food though I'm Every time I watch them, I'm like, I want to eat that. Like, because there's people that make these slimes and it's like, oh, cotton candy slime and it looks like cotton candy. And then I'm like, are you enjoying this episode?

Do that one again? I mean, you're the white, is this sexual? That, when are you watching? Yeah, because whenever... That's sexual. That sounds like... Coitus. When I watch ASMR, it's that.

I've never seen those ones. Maybe I dipped out before it went really sexual. No, I'm just kidding. I've never watched it. is more i can tell you with it so what are you watching on youtube back to the makeup what are you watching on youtube when you do the makeup honestly so many nothing specific ever sorry hold please i just realized it wasn't very foggy yeah i can see you too too well bust up the fog levels is it even oh it's it's oh i see oh it's come you look like the undertaker my friend dude that's

badass i used to be able to do the thing do it looking this Camera lights, go. Do it, do it. Wait, dude, I got to show you. Actually, I won't show you. I did an Undertaker costume for Halloween, like, three years ago. That's fucking sick. When I had long hair.

Have you ever seen me? I never knew you with long hair. I mean, you're going to send me the photo, and people are going to view it right now. It was a video of me going. With Smoke Machine? No, no, smoke machine, but... 60 bucks, bro. Spirit.

I should have one. Just saying. It's very noisy, but other than that. Yeah, I could have... I could have had the theme song going on the dong with... Big fan. The background. That's my ASMR.

You could have the ASMR of this room. A budget. A bug machine. Yeah. Speaking of YouTube. Speaking of spookiness. Yeah. I watched two videos this morning.

Yeah. In between our brain rot, we decided to go on to YouTube and rot our brains a little bit further. Two episodes of a little known YouTube show. Short live, two episodes. And I'll tell you, After the second episode, I was screaming for more, This Place is Haunted.

Yeah. With Vinny. Yeah. What's the story? Number one, I got a shout out, Ricky. Because it looks so pro. Honestly, I know. He's...

Explain what it is first. This place is Haunted. Is a limited series on YouTube. Nice, nice. Of a one man's journey into truth, finding out whether or not he believes even in himself whether or not the paranormal existence is true and he will do anything it takes to find that out including going to two legitimately haunted places two actually legitimately haunted places well the one is salt

lake okay so i'll just make i'll just let you know that the first one was a completely made up thing. Oh. Like, Salter Sally doesn't exist. I mean, I assumed

Salter Sally didn't exist. But the, okay, the salt, okay, we, yeah, no,

it's haunted. Wait, so that place isn't supposed to be haunted. But that's the one where something actually

happened. Yeah, that was the one where we thought things happened, yes. So you were at the venue.

Yeah. What's the venue? The Salter. The Salter. The Saltere. The Salt Lake City here on the salt flats of

Salt Lake City, Utah. And that's not rumored to be haunted. You just thought it looked haunted? Somebody was rumored to have died. Madison. Somewhere. And it was like...

Saltare. Yeah, I think it was... Salt Lake City. I didn't pull that out of my butt. I just... I saw Sally and then I just went with it. Somebody died at the Salter name Sally or something. I really don't know.

This would be a little cut. But... Wait, wait, wait. All of that shit is just... improv, just random shit that I'm just saying. I mean, I figured that much. Yeah, it's just... You got anything about haunting?

Oh, look at those eyes light up. Spooky girls got some spooky things. Tell me the sultan. Give me the sultan. Tell me Sally's real and she's been chasing me. I will say there was supposed to be a third part. But, and my idea of it for it was that Sally, I went home and like from wherever and Sally followed me home.

And I had to exercise her in my basement, but we just... You just didn't do it. The producers wouldn't cough up the dough. We wouldn't travel. No. Wait, okay. All right. We're going to revisit this.

Madison, read me. October 8th, 2000, two duck hunters discovered skeletal remains in a field near the Salter. Salter? Yeah. It's a concert venue just west of Salt Lake City. the investigators recovered a skull with waist-length blonde hair as well as 26 other bones

scattered by scavenging animals clothing items including a shirt and a blue choker necklace were also found neither remains spooky investigators referred to her as Salter Sally. Wow

Salter Sally's real did you put a haunted in or ghost so we may have Googled did anybody die in the salt flats and that was like the only one ever that came up i may have just put on a spin that sally attached herself to me and she's evil and she wants me dead but for the record okay so you make this youtube funny video yeah because you told me previously that you are skeptic of these i'm actually it okay it is a joke but it's also real like that was like i

I pitched that to Rick was like, what if we, because like I don't, he believes in it. Has he got a name? Right, right. You're talking about Ricky. Yeah, I thought you meant he as in your character on the show. No, no, no, no. Rick. But something happens at that venue in it where is it Justin says something into a room

and then like make a noise and there's legitimately a noise. And you can see that he's like kind of shook up. Yeah, he is shook up. Hit something. This intelligent response makes it clear the. something is trying to communicate with us. So you still don't believe it based on it? Um, yeah, I don't because Logan Beaver threw something in that room to make a noise

and it scared everybody. Do you know what? What? I had a friend that worked on, there was a TV show in the, motherfucker Logan. Funny though. Got me. That's why he was like, what? You got me.

Classic, Logan. And that's, I was, I knew that he threw some and that's why I just kind of like looked at him and was just like. because I was watching it and like it did scare no dude that actually that moment was it was perfect that he did that because it scared everybody and it made I made great TV it made that that pilot got you signed yeah yeah exactly series yeah so I have a friend that worked on a ghost show

where they do these things and do you know go to the haunted place that's legitimately supposed to be haunted and film in night vision exactly like what your show was and i asked him like is it all bullshit and he was like everything on the show is bullshit someone's always like throwing the old roman penny and then the people who are doing the show with the hosts don't know it's always like a cameraman throwing oh yeah so then the people get real scared and but he said when we're setting up the cameras because he's a cameraman he's seen some freaky shit he said like in in an abbey somewhere because they have to go on their own before any of the other people go to set up all the lights

and the cameras he said he saw like an electrical blanket come across the top of this abbey like the whole thing like sparkled across the whole thing you don't believe that bro that was my friend you're a full skeptic you've had your friend a liar you've had no paranormal not once not once not not anything they could ever not be explained ever i've had two and i haven't invited it to my my world a billion times we're inviting it right now that's what i'm saying if sally if you're here sally if you're here please do make yourself known i've had two i've talked about on the podcast before but like and one of them was an old haunted tennis court and you could hear people's shoes um like squeaking around and some motherfucker in the youtube comments probably right

i thought that was real and haunted for my whole life guy in the youtube comment went it's an old building it's probably bats. Of course it's fucking bats. Of course it is. My idiot child brain was like, Ghosts are real. Oh my God. It's bats.

Yeah. And I do have one spooky like, from beyond the grave thing, which I've talked about again on the podcast where I was at a thing with a bunch of people where our friend had just passed and we were all thinking about it at the same time

and this kid wrote the guy's name in sand on the beach next to us. really big and then walked off and it was the only kid on the beach that's the only thing in my life that i'm like oh my god what just happened yeah like can't really explain it mason do you believe in ghosts i've never had anything personally happen for dating ghosts but i'm not against the idea of them existing do you think that they there's a question for both of you also it's so funny asking someone with recovered in cobwebs do you do you be able to even ghosts? Do you think ghosts are, you don't think that exists? So this is actually just a

question of Madison and I'll bring it to you. I'll entertain it. Comedic relief. Do you think ghosts are like what they died in? Like they dressed how they died. Oh, absolutely. I think what you pass away in is what you're wearing. You think that that image gets projected forward. So you die in a bad fit and you're just screwed and they were saying that's probably what killed them that fits atrocious no wonder you did well i was thinking if like um well maybe the ghosts they die in that fit and then fashion changes and like you know edward that died in a tunic or whatever yeah next time you see that ghost he's got like a monster hat on or something a cookie monster hat flat bill you know they could have like they could go up with the fashion as well yeah yeah yeah

SpongeBob, pajama pants. You never know. But they do always look spooky. I do like... Dude, I'm telling you if I saw a ghost in a cookie monster hat and SpongeBob pajama pants, I would be terrified. I would be like... They're going to ask me for a cigarette or like seven cents or something.

I don't have that. What are you guys doing? What about the afterlife? We're getting spooky now. Spooky bit started. Do, Simon, leave me talking to you in, but I'm also asking you for like lightning and an effect. And we'll do this.

as well. I've turned it off instead of on. Spooky. Do you believe in heaven? Do you believe in hell? I'm kind of the most boring person to ask these questions. Yeah, but that's what's interesting about it? I don't believe in much. Yeah, but so, what, atheist? No, I don't care. I don't care. Okay, that is fucking boring. It's like agnostic. Agnostic's not not caring. It's like it doesn't change whether it doesn't change your outlook on on anything if you were real or not. Is that what that is? I thought agnostic was you are open to the idea of it.

Yeah, but it doesn't affect you if it's... Yeah. I think that's, I think it's what it is. That's what I always view to have. It was like... Definition of agnostic, please. I don't really know. Yeah. Whatever that is.

As in like, if he is real, if all that, if he or she is real. All they. Okay. Won it back. One point. One point back. A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or any...

anything beyond material phenomena, a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God. I think that's also me. However, no, that is me. I was going to say, I got a weird thing for like simulation theory, which I'm aware is like. Like we're in a simulation? Yeah, it's like early onset schizophrenia. Oh. But like.

Definitely they're out to get you. But they put us in this computer world. It kind of microchips. That's just on my Alex Jones arc now. Yeah. But like, the more insane. make AI and computers and all that shit like I think that in I think it's definitely more believable to me that in 2,000 years provided the sun hasn't exploded that a computer

simulation would be so real that the things inside it think they're real and then maybe we're those things do you know what I mean that makes more sense to me than like two thousand years ago guy died for three days came back Born of a Virgin, all that stuff. That's not for me. So who is running the simulation? Well, who runs Open AI? Chat, GPT.

They just make it and they just let it run, doesn't it? It just happens. They make it and let it run. So someone made it. So the simulation... Oh, he's in now. The simulation was putting into the consciousness of everybody that AI doesn't exist until about,

what would you say? Not. Maybe 15 years ago the AI happened. So like what I'm saying is if we were in the simulation, that is some meta shit for the AI. For the guy that made AI. I'm using AI as an example, but you're using it as the AI may does

and then it was just like, I won't tell them about AI until we're fucking, we're not going to tell them about AI until down the line. I think the simulation could, I don't really believe this, but I kind of like, I subscribe to that more than like, Old Testament God.

But like, I don't have schizophrenia yet. I think they made all, like, the computer program, which is human life, and just let it sort of run in the background. Fucking put a fan on it, upgrade the GPU, the Stone Age, the Iron Age. That's all just RAM updates. I've got more RAM. I like this. Oh, we figured out how to use this.

Anyway, that's what I believe. All right. Yeah. I believe that. You're in? Madison, what do you believe? Do you believe in a god, an omnipresent god that is watching over us? Or are you in my computer simulation cult?

I'm not a simulation cult, unfortunately. I'm sorry. Okay. You weren't ready for this. I wasn't ready for this. That's how strong the simulation is that it includes people that don't believe in the simulation. The simulation is truly non-discriminatory. You know?

The simulation says, part of the system. Sorry, guys. Part of the system is like, you know, you've got to let people. I think I watched The Matrix and it ruin my brain. Yeah. I think that's what's happened there. We also watched The Heretic last night. You seen Heretic?

I have, yeah. Yeah. He, yeah, he's into, if anyone hasn't seen Heretic, it's a spoiler coming up. But the guy's into simulation theory. What is his name? Hugh Grant. Yes. Good role.

Couldn't think of his name. What did you give the Heretic out of? I hated the one actress, the one, like, main actress. Which one? Spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler. There's two of them, right? There's two. The one that dies or doesn't die?

The one that doesn't die. Oh, Paxton. Dude, I don't remember. There's a blonde and a brunette. It was a brunette, I think. Brunette, you didn't like her? Yeah, I just... Too woke for you.

She... It's nothing. I honestly don't... I don't remember the movie. I just remember being like, damn. I don't really like this, girl. Did you like the movie, though? Yeah, that's pretty.

Wait, would you give it out of ten? What did I give it? Uh, man. I'd give it a seven. Right, here's what I was going to say. I'm so glad. So glad you said that. I want to let everyone in, everyone at home.

Let's get a little bit of smoking here for this. There's a new... Simon leave this in. Yep. I want to let everyone in to a little thing from the Stray from the Path Camp. It's going to be revolutionary for when you get a suggestion from your friends,

where to eat, what to watch. Yeah. Seven doesn't exist. Introduce seven doesn't exist into your world, and you will know if something is a six or an eight. You force the person to pick six or eight. Okay.

Because seven's a cop out. No, sometimes I haven't got time for seven. I was going to say to my head, in my head, like, I was thinking to my head and like, damn, I don't even think I could give it an eight, really. But a six just seems like too low. Pick for me, my friend.

I guess an eight. An eight. I see I go, I go to six. I want it a seven. No, you don't get a seven, but now people are at six. And actually,

six then. If people are, six point eight. People, no, no, I'm, I'm MDV rules.

Okay. People at home were like, oh, wait to see what their rankings is to see if I watch it. And you said eight and I said six. The median there is seven. We haven't done anything. But if you're getting a restaurant recommendation,

is it like one to ten, seven doesn't exist. We've done it the whole time. The way I view it is seven is super average. Six is below average. Eight is above average. But no one's ever going to choose to watch average or eat average. I think a seven to me is watchable, but not someone I'm going to be like blown away by.

I know. So tell, as long as you give the person who's asking the question or you ask the question with the disclaimer, seven doesn't exist. You're then forcing them to zoom in on their simulation. Okay. If I would have known that, then yes, six seconds. Six, it's a six, baby. Madison, what are you giving it?

It was a six. Horror. Horror. It's a good segue. Yep. We've got a cool segment. You like horror movies. Spooky time.

We're in the spooky part. What's your favorite? Favorite horror movie? Yeah, give me a top three. Oh, top three. Number one is 28 days later. Banger. She's never seen it.

I'm actually not a huge fan of zombie horror. Okay. I'll just say this 28 days later is not really like, it is zombie. But it's not like, it's not your typical, like... I'm not a big zombie guy and 28 days later is amazing. Yeah, it's very... It just feels like you're alone. Like, the first, like, 15 minutes of that movie is shot in London.

And they didn't use any CGI. It's just, like, empty. And it just looks... It just looks awesome. They shot at, like, 4 a.m. in the summer, so the sun was up. It was crazy. Sexy Cillian Murphy, his first, like, big role.

he's a baby in that movie yeah he's naked in the first scene you see dong yeah silly and dong oh now she's oh now she wants now she now she's googling 28 days later 28 days later the scene tick to ticot okay i'll say this 28 weeks later have you ever seen that 28 weeks later don't ruin my life well okay but what i'm about to say i hope you agree with me have you've obviously seen 20 weeks later I haven't seen years. The opening scene of 28 weeks later is my favorite scene in horror and all of horror. I think 28 weeks later is maybe one of the bleakest modern horror movies ever. 28 weeks?

28 weeks. I love it. That opening scene without, it's kind of a spoiler, but like... So wait, you thought I was going to say, I hated it? Yeah, I loved it. Like, it's nothing like 28 days. Yeah. But in terms of, you know, when you watch a horror film and you're in your brain,

the little darkness in your brain that, you know, something's happening and it's like a main character or something's happening and it's, your brain goes, well, that would be really dark if that goes there. And then it never happens because it's too dark. 28 weeks, like everything that you, you're, the darkest part of your brain thinks, the worst thing that could happen right now is this and it just happens. Jeremy Renner. Okay.

Another one for you there. She loves a renner. Look at me. He kept by snowplow. Same little weird face. Not after the accident. You look like post-accident. Jeremy Renner.

You want to say that to that fucking camera? Thanks very much, me. The opening scene of 20 weeks later was written and directed by Danny Boyle. And Alex Garland. The farm yard. Yeah. And they were supposed to be on for the whole movie, but they didn't.

they didn't sign on after that but they did shoot that first scene then the rest of it's by somebody else and you can tell but i i do like the movie and that open scene is absolutely bonkers yeah got two for you there two for the wank bank sillian and jeremy renner fuck yeah uh okay you gave me one and then we i was going to say number two is hereditary probably i think hereditary is in my top three it's the best modern horror film that's how i feel too there was a turn in like probably starting around the era of like the conjuring and like maybe like insidious and stuff that's what i like consider like modern horror like when it like i don't know but yeah i agree erratissary there was like a lot of shit in modern horror as well as like the bangers like everyone

you just mentioned was a banger but then there was like a million other like side movies so yeah well i like the conjuring one also one of my probably top five horror movies but it's just like, I like a good... I get it mixed up with sinister. Conjuring one. It's just a haunted house movie. Conjuring one. And the second one has the kids

with the really bad British accents and they keep making it say biscuits because obviously the writer was like, oh my God, they call biscuits cookies. Let's make the kids say it. I don't remember that. They call cookies biscuits. Let's make the kids say it 50 times.

I don't remember that. You want some biscuits? Sounds exactly like that. Anyway, both good movies. Sorry. No, I just, I consider conjuring one The start of, well, that Time frame, like the start of Modern Horror.

I also really like Barbarian. That's kind of a recent one. Did you do weapons? I did. I liked it better than weapons. I thought weapons left way too much on the table. Yeah, but that's prequel shit, baby? It just, you think there's going to be another one? Oh, there's going to be a prequel.

Give me that Gladys story. Okay, well, that's what I mean. Why did they, they didn't explain anything? thing about her. She, I was just talking about this right before we got me. You live in a society. I just,

it just felt like, I didn't like barbarian. I give barbarian six. I give weapons at, maybe a nine. I could see, damn. See,

when I saw the call of duty assault rifle above the house, I was like, what are we doing now? Yeah. There was a couple times where I was like, it kept like taking me out of.

But that was a dream. I don't know. He was in a dream. I know. I know. It just, there was just a couple scenes where I'm like actually no that was like one of the only ones that I like felt visually where I was like that's kind of lame but in what way did you think it was lame because just the

way it looked I was just like why why yeah I did at the time but then he woke up and then it was a dream and I did also interpret it interpret that as like a nod to schools and guns and like a little anti-gun thing it felt like ready player one or something. Even though it was a dream. I know. I know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Okay, it's fine. But Barbarian, you got... Barbarian was out. I get why you maybe wouldn't like it. Why do you think I didn't like it? No, no.

There was one thing that they did. There's one thing that I did. I think it separates me and you in our horror movie things. What? They showed that fucking thing way too early. Like the woman? The woman. I got it in like 30 minutes.

And then I'm not scared of it when I'm not scared of it when I'm showed the first wherever she like drags the guy like and like fucking hits his face against all. That was an awesome moment. Up to that whole point is like I'm like this is so sick. And then shortly after that you see the monster at the end. You see the monster that's normally like a reveal at the end. And I'm like, I'm not scared anymore. No, I could take that thing.

I think when I saw that in the theaters, I literally had a smile on my face multiple times where I was like, dude, I don't know where this movie is going, but I love what's happening right now. I saw my favorite movie experience ever also happens to be a horror movie. I saw Get Out in Detroit with me, two white members of Stray. We're all white, but there was two of them.

And no one else in the theatre was white. And if anyone hasn't seen Get Out, you have to watch it, number one. If anyone has seen Get Out, they'll see why this is so funny. And we were just bullied throughout the whole movie, but in the most light-hearted way,

it was like every time any of the antagonists from the movie did anything, like the rows in front of us would just turn around and look at us and be like... And it was just so funny. It made it like at some weird ride. Yeah, it was funny. Like an experience. Yeah, it was so sick.

Love a movie theater. I have more on the horror thing. I love going on the movies. You went to the movies twice last week? Yeah, I've gone on the movies like 10 times. last month and a half probably have you got like a one of the cards that you can go i don't have a card but yeah where membership or whatever how much is it uh i have cinemark so it's like 12 bucks a month and you can just go to any movie no i get one free ticket a month oh let me do my this is my

advertisement for a cinema sounds bad give me a free no it's not it's pretty good go i'm gonna give me a give me a free movie past cinema go go it's a 12 dollar 12 dollar month maybe it's 11 you get one free ticket a month if you don't use that free ticket it rolls over to the next month you also get 20% off concessions that is the main killer I've saved let me show let me tell you how much I've saved

in like a month and a half I've saved way too much money my phone didn't recognize my face I forgot I have makeup on yeah it just happened to me in July alone it was like 86 bucks that I saved just from yeah two popcorn

Yeah, exactly. Oh, right here. I've saved $127 since joining and I joined in the at the end of July. That is a lot and it's probably about six popcorn. Yeah, pretty much. I've seen maybe like nine movies. Okay. More important. What's your snack of choice of the movies? That's a large sprite with a medium popcorn butter layered butter salt as well. and cherry sweet tart ropes every single time that's nice that's real similar Madison you look like you want to say something the cherry sweet tart ropes

yeah you like the rainbow ones the watermelon berry fusion ones but they also just came out strawberry ones that is my favorite I like cherry anyway if you work at cinema or sweet tarts and then we all want some free shit we've only got a regal near us though so I'll take the regal thing um I in the UK though

this is my problem with US movie theaters and I have you know I am in butter club now with the popcorn oh because they do sweet we do kettle corn pretty much yeah sweet popcorn yeah sweet and savory sweet and salty that's my fucking go to because sometimes I don't like you know like a chocolate or a sweet tart or whatever so I feel like back in the UK my go-to would be a hot dog and then sweet sweet popcorn and a gigantic soda. I don't know what smell. Like, actually a hot dog doesn't smell that bad, but if I smelled like somebody's,

like, actual food next to me, I don't know. Like, I'm so used to just popcorn. Like, when I go to a theater, like, that's all I smell. I don't know how I'd feel if somebody had, like, a sandwich next to me, like a hot dog. That's not going to smell. You get hot dogs in your theaters as well. Yeah.

Hot dog's pretty normal. You either get popcorn smell or you get pissed smell. I just normally, which is hot dog smell. My friend, one of the first times I've ever seen it, he bought pizza. Like they sell slices of pizza at our theater That's kind of crazy At my theater they had like a whole

The old theater I went to in Cleveland They had like a whole like cafeteria area You could get like oh my god You could get anything you want You could get fries You could get like chicken wings You could get like Yeah I think I draw the line

That's what's saying It was like his whole meals That's just too And there's some where you can get them Like deliver to your seat and stuff I've been to one of those I went to one of those in Europe To watch the remaster

of Batman and it was not good. Not as good as I remember it being as a child. But we got food delivered to our thing. Kind of takes away, I'm a hot dog, I'm a hot dog, a candy or a popcorn and a big drink. My other beef with the theatre, specifically, I just think the theater we go to, and an American problem in general, is not enough diet choices. Like I love a big, yeah, like a big, big drink at the movie theater. But like, my diet choice is diet Pepsi.

What else do you want? want a Coca-Cola freestyle machine. That's what I want. That would be awesome. I want an extra large, sugar-free, grape, still fanta. Whoa. Low ice. You seem satisfied just by saying that.

That's what Coca-Cola freestyle was, mate. I just spat drink bars. Yeah. That was a Coca-Cola freestyle. Yeah. Everything about it, perfection. That was like early M&M. Dude, whenever I have a freestyle, like, soda,

there's like a specific, just because it's had 12,000 flavors come out of the same nozzle, you get that specific, like, I don't even know. You know what I'm talking about. The jungle juice effect. Yeah, the jungle juice effect. The jungle juice effect. Coming soon to theaters, the jungle juice effect.

Dude, if they sold jungle juice at the theater, could you imagine? Imagine, no, do you get the drip tray from the Coca-Cola freestyle machine and just pull that into a cut? That should be, there should be a mystery one. Mystery one, and it's like five bucks for the extra large. Get what you get. You get the last of the syrup.

Always turns out brown. Anyway, we're still talking about movies. There's a lot of movie shit happening right now, guys, because it's a spooky season. He doesn't believe in ghosts. So that was a whole section gone. I don't believe in anything. I don't believe in things. I didn't believe myself anymore.

Okay, we're going to do a section. because we're one hour and 12 minutes in. What's the section? It's quite a lengthy, lengthy section, so strap in, guys. I'll give you a list earlier. I'm strapped up. Oh, okay. You're a smokesman?

A smokesman? A smokesman. A toker? Oh, yeah. You're a toker of the ganja. A toker of the chronic. The chronic. The connoisseur of the chronic.

What would you call it on like a daily, on the daily? Just weed. Just weed, yeah. What do you call rolling it up into the thing? Rolling a joint? Roll in the joint. You've got any other way to say that? It's a bone of contention in our house.

Just roll a joint. Okay. Just roll a joint, I guess. Okay, so in the UK, we pretty much don't ever say roll a joint. We'll say skin up. I've heard roll up, but never skin up. Skin up.

And look at Madison's face. She hates it. Why do you hate it so much? What do you mean by skin up? Skin up. Like with your fingers? Because we call the papers, skins. The skins.

Oh, okay. So it's almost like the drumhead drum skin debate, right? But we call them skins. And whenever Madison, like, I don't smoke, but Madison doesn't, I'll skin up for her. And I'll say, do you want me to skin up? And her face, she just, why do you hate it so much? I want you to skin up.

I don't like it. It just sounds really gross. It just sounds. Is it because I'm uncut? Is it this again? Is it this again? Sometimes I wish this. You want a foreskin.

Sometimes I just wish this wasn't here. She wasn't a foreskin down. I never heard of I said that. So you just called it weed. You just, there's no other words. No. I mean,

I used to think people were so weird for calling it. Like, I used to think people were like trying to be cool when they call it like bud or like flower. Yeah,

but people in like dispensaries call it flour because I saw that the other day. Yeah. But that's, now it's different. But like, whenever my,

I don't know, that's because it's a normalized thing in dispensary. It's like there's flour. That's why I was getting at. There's vape and you know, and there's, but like when people would be like, yo,

you got any flour like whatever, like when I'm 17 in high school. Yeah. Yeah, because I wanted to know what, you're just trying too hard, dude. What words aren't cool?

Because I don't know. Wait, well, no, now I don't give a shit. I was just saying like, there was a time where I thought it was weird that people called it anything other than weed.

Madison, if there was like a, a cop that it was trying to buy weed what words would they say that would give it away that's what i want i want like what's the one of the buzzwords yeah what's like what's a cop buzzword it would be those like flower and weed green a dispensary green oh green maybe yeah green is i would be pretty you know where any green is if anyone or like hey you got a green yeah okay yeah even i know that i can't be good yeah for sure green that can't be good they can't be talking about something legal right now yeah green

Got any green. Anyway, so when you're smoking, you're green, yeah. Okay, I want you to think. I'll give you a list earlier. Okay, I'm thinking. There's a huge list. We're going to run it down, quick fire.

Okay. You're going to rank between one to five these horror movie people on how much you would like to smoke with them. On a scale one to five. On a skyline one to five, okay. And one being don't want to smoke at all. Okay.

I'd let you extend to a zero if there's a serious issue. And then five, desperately want to blaze one green up. And then Madison's going to top these all up. And at the end, we're going to come to your dream blunt rotation. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Sounds good. Perfect. Okay. You can elaborate. Okay. And if you haven't elaborated, when we get to the dream blunt, we'll elaborate on what we think they're smoking styles could be. Okay, perfect. Okay. You like this? You like this? Oh, yeah. You wanted silly. You got silly. Okay, pinhead from the Hellraiser franchise.

He would be pretty cool. That's like a four. A four, straight out of the gate. How is he going to get it in his mouth? Yeah, well, he's got so many things that he can take out of his head to poke out the bowl. He's got so many things that he could scrape. That comes in handy. That's what I'm saying.

She understands. Immediately she has her on a four out of five as well. One of the things that I really admire about weed people is your industriousness. You did not even think, like, listen, me and my friends have come, I hope my friends watch us and I'm just shouting them out. My friends from high school that have found more creative ways to smoke the Gonja than the Navy SEALs come up ways to stop terrorism.

Yeah. You would think, and Madison's the same, but I think the other day something happened. and she was like, I've got nothing to smoke with. And it was like the most obvious thing on earth. But you just use this. Oh, okay. You forgot it existed.

And she, I've seen the smoke out of some crazy shit. I can give you the craziest thing that I've smoked out of. I'll just say this. You know the... See if you have any... Monster Energy Ultra. No, you know, the end of a cable, the like... The like sheath, the, like...

Out of an instrument cable. Yeah, but like would be like a guitar cable. Yeah, you know how like... There's like a part of it that goes into the guitar. And then the part that's like sticking out is like a shield that's like metal. Oh yeah. You can like unscrew it. Another one.

Yeah, we unscrewed that little shield because they do. They come up. We cut the cable, put guitar string. Very important safety. Yes. Put a coiled up guitar string on the inside of this little sheath so that weed could not fall through. Okay. Filter, guitar.

essentially. Yeah. And then melted that guitar cable casing, the metal casing, into the top of a bottle cap. So it's just like sticking out of it like this. Okay. Put it on a bottle and then partake. A gravity bomb.

Yeah. And I did that in Mexico. Would it not be an easier, was that the easiest way to smoke weed at that moment in time? Yeah. Wow. Because how else, I'm not going to go to, it's late at night. I'm not going to walk the streets of Mexico

to try and find some skins You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying Industrious. An industrious people The... That's just one example The weedsmen. That's just like one example Of how far my mind can go. I feel like the first time

I smoked was out of a can. So I always know that it was worse... That's what I'm saying. Wasn't a fucking can around? We're always one tinny away from lockjaw. Listen, wasn't there a can? You had to make this device. I will never smoke out of a can.

I will never deface a monster tore water. Nice, nice. No, I would never, ever, ever, no offense, smoke out of a can ever. Why? Is there a reason? Yeah, I mean, dude, if you held a lighter to this, there would be fumes. There would be stuff coming off of this that you had no idea. Guitar cable, fine, though.

No. The guitar cable that you mel. Which means there'd be fumes. No, I didn't melt the cable. I melted the weed that's on top of the... No, you said you melted the metal of the guitar thing. Into... Into the bottle cap.

But then you're lighting that bit. No, I'm lighting the weed. I promise. Potato potato. It's different. It's different than putting metal on top of metal. I'll give you these are like decorated very nicely actually, Monster. That's like...

But that is the first way that a lot of people would smoke. Can I stop you? Yes. We are on number one of about 20 people. So let's get this going. Okay, pinheads are four. You got that written down my love? Perfect.

Chuckie, the doll from child's play. That's a low one. That's like, that's a one. No, no way. He's kind of chill. That's the two. He's kind of funny. He's a two.

Chuckies are two. Freddie Kruger. A nightmare on Elm Street. Zero. You think pinhead's got stuff for scraping out of the bowl? Is he? Yeah.

Is he? Canceled. Freddie Krueger's a pre- Freddy Krueger's canceled. That's like his, that's his backstory. Yeah. I can't smoke weed with that. I can't do that.

Does that get? Is that in the movies? Yeah, I promise you. In like the first one? Yeah. Well, maybe this, I think it was the second one that they introduced that. That he's a didler. Yeah.

Freddy didler. I swear. His backstory and how he actually died. His human life was because... Killed because he's a... Yeah. The town's people like killed him. Okay.

I'm sure the first movie they didn't say that, but second one, yeah. Freddy Krueger's canceled. Who knew? Who knew? He was doing so well. Okay, Freddy's a zero. That's a special case.

You said I could use a zero. One. Trying to catch you out like I do with all my guests. Fuck off. Michael Myers, Halloween. Ooh. He'd be kind of cool. That's a four.

He wouldn't say, yeah, he'd just be chilling. He wouldn't do, he would just. He's nonverbal before. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. What if he like becomes like super animated? He just doesn't stop talking. He's fucking annoying. Michael, shut the fuck up.

Yeah, but it's just like. Yeah, that's why I like it, dude. It breaks him up his shell. Okay, he's a four. Takes his mask off. Careful with all these fours, bro. I'm gonna have to hit you with a four doesn't exist. Yeah, you're right.

You're right, but I'm just a pre-warning. Free warning. Okay, Gladys from weapons. Oh. She's a low one. I didn't like her. She's a low one. She's making me mad, yeah.

She had a bowl, though. She had a bowl with water that she was, like, putting stuff in. She'll be... Not the same. She's a two. You're right. She's a two. She's a two.

She's a two because she looks. She can break up twigs. She, you're right. She can break up those twigs pretty well. Yeah, you didn't have a grinder. She's fucking on that shit. You got to watch that she don't curse it. Spoilers.

Okay. Barbarian. The woman from Barbarian. The woman from Barbarian. Yeah. She just wanted to be a mom. and I'd smoke with him on okay I'll give her a

that's a three that's a three yeah okay the thing from jeepers whatever monster whatever his name is jeeper creeper jeepers we both brain went to the same place jieper

mr creeper mr creeper government name jeeper he wants my peepers he man I don't really have one for him there's a one then you got nothing yeah I got nothing for him I got nothing about him

okay art the clown he makes me mad why all the killing yeah he needs to stop all these other ones fine yeah he just needs to stop of that he needs to stop okay what's art

have you seen those movies though just I just didn't know okay well the first one he cuts a woman in half from top to bottom no bottom to top but she's upside down right down the center that's too much for you just letting you know that's too much I was just not too much I was just

I only watched that because that happened. Like, I, like, I, like, I, not only is it not too much. That's why I hunted the movie out. That's not what I meant. I mean, like, I knew, I was like, oh, it's got a crazy shocking scene. We got to watch this.

Like, you know. Well, you just old me on it. But, uh, it is a pretty insane scene. But, um, hmm. No, he's, he's got, he's pretty funny. I'll give him, I'll give him a, you know, I'll give him a pass. He's a three.

He's a three. Um, side note, have you ever seen the movie bone Tomahawk? No. If you want a movie that's like, it's just a western with one insane crazy scene. Bone Tomahawk. Spoiler. It's quite a similar scene. But it's a guy.

I never even heard about it. About time that was happening to the guys. Yeah. Two back. Representation. I'm back, baby. Pennywise. Either iteration of Pennywise, you can have a Tim Curry, Pennywise, or you can have a,

I'll smoke with Tim Curry, Pennywise. Tim Curry, Pennywise. Yeah. That's a solid. I would. A four, a five? That's a four. I don't know.

I don't have a... You're going to have to. Do I have to have a five? I think so. All right. I just haven't been totally excited yet. It's too late to change to one to ten. I've realized about four...

About four people in, I realize that you should have done one to ten. My producer said nothing. That's fine. I feel like this is... Probably too high. Excuse me. I think one to five is a more direct scale. It is, but if we end up with 11, fours at the end, we're fucked.

Anyway, he's a four. Any reason in particular? I just like how he looks So cool He's just cool looking I iconic Did you like the remake of it? It was all right

I loved it I was never I wasn't like a huge fan The original or anything like that So it's not like I was I mean they're honestly Not really comparing the two But

Is it just a makeup thing then You and Tim could You look fucking good bro Yeah You look good bro What's that white Where'd you get that Cursed Cosmetics

That's Mac NC15 Oh shit bro Okay, xenomorph from any of the aliens. Oh, that's a five. That's a five. I've been watching aliens in all the movies recently. Why is it at five? Just on the movie movie?

Listen, there's multiple, have you seen all the alien? I have seen, yeah, I think I've seen that every alien. Have you watched the TV show, too? I guess it doesn't know. No, I haven't. I haven't seen that. Oh. Well, you know, there's different phases of the xenomorph,

and which one would I most rather smoke with? Hmm I like it The TV show one is too He's not goopy enough I need the goop all over him Oh she's sorry Wait are they all

They're all women It's part of the immaculate Design isn't it The whole thing I didn't even know that They're a perfect organism I never realized It was just like all

Yeah They all ladies I think so anyway I'm pretty sure Because I know there's a queen In the second one That'd be my choice Anyway, carry on.

Carry on. You've got to pick which one. What, okay. Yeah, the goopy one from like alien to all the ones where they're like, what, they got the shit all over them. In the TV show, they're too clean. They don't have the, because there's different phases of the Zanomor. I mean, you mean the one in aliens when it, like, it's the first time you see it and it's like wet. Yeah, and it's got like.

Goopy. Yeah. Also, that thing is a bong. You're telling me that thing's not a bong? You'd be like... I have to smoke out of its mouth, tongue mouth. I've got nothing to smoke out of. I haven't even got any guitar stuff.

Open up and it's just like... Open up and it goes... And then, yeah. Perfect how it would work. You might have to go around the other way. Perfect. Facehugger. You could...

You could... You got an old face hugger we can use love. And then she'd go... Give you one. It's like a gay... Facehugger gas mask. Yeah. Oh shit, son.

Shepra. That's sick. 420. 420. 420 on 10.31. Is that what you do it that way around? I don't know. Still getting used to Fahrenheit.

Anyway, ghostface from Scream. He's been known to smoke in another franchise. I was talking about that franchise earlier. Watched it yesterday. They're coming back, but that's a whole different thing. No way. We're talking about scary movie, guys. We're talking about scary movie.

No, I didn't know that. Yeah, and a lot of them are coming back. Like, a lot of the, like, mean. The Wions Brothers and Anna. And Regina, whatever, and then Anna, I forgot her name. Oh, that's, that's what I want. I want those. I want Ray the most.

Yeah, and they have, like, five movies that are, like, on the list of, like, what are going to be in it. Yeah, yeah. When one of them was hereditary, one of them was heretic. And I forget. It was, it was just, like, a, what's the call? Like, a preview of, like, a few movies. But yeah, I saw that like a few days ago.

But sorry. Ghost face. And would include scary movie ghost face in this because. Ooh, I'll smoke with ghost or scary movie ghost face. Classic. That's a five for me. That's the one that I want to. Have you guys, have you got a separate list for you?

You want to, she's got her own list. You can pop up your own one. You can do a quick, quick. I'm just agreeing with L. No, I want, I want, I want, I want you to pick yours at the end out of the list, please. Okay. I'll give the scary movie version of him five. Five.

Five. Because he, he hitting it. Oh, no, he's a pussy in it, isn't he? He coughs,

also I haven't, I haven't seen, like, I've seen maybe one scream. Madison's upset. The spookiest episode, Madison gets the most air time because it's like golf hours.

Which one? One, I imagine. Dude, I don't know. No, probably not one. That's like from,

I was, I was pretty young at that point. You're allowed to watch old movies. I know, but I mean, when it came out, I think it was really, like,

current. Yeah, so I was like pretty young. So it probably would have been like scream three or something. Oh, okay. So you just went straight in on it. That's probably why you didn't like it. It's a lot of plot.

Well, no, I honestly, I don't even think I didn't like it. I don't, I don't really, I just never really watch it. Madison's favorite movie. Scream. But all I was going to say, though, about that was that aren't some of them not a guy? Like isn't, like, some of the killers, like women? Yeah, so it goes face, again, is like a, is, uh, Entity.

Again, like the xenomorph ones, you can pick your Ghost Fest. A Ghost Fest. That was a festival in Leeds, United Kingdom. You can pick your favorite ghost face and you've gone for scary movie. Like the xenomorphs. You've gone for aliens too. Sorry, aliens, which is alien too. Okay.

Next. Predator. You want to talk about industrious. He's pretty sick. Just, I keep just, I'm voting them off of how cool. will they look? What are their vibe? What are they like? Yeah, that's, well, you've got to think you're really going to smoke with his person. I mean, Predator would respect me. I'll give him a five. He, listen, he comes to planets and kills only the strongest of the strong on the planets.

Yeah. Which means he got dank wheat. He's got dank. But what if he's, he's smoking with you, right? And what if he's only going after the strongest of stoners? Because I know I could outsmoke a grown man. So what if he's coming? I, oh, I would, would be afraid. He's come to the planet deliberately to kill the strongest stoner and he would go for you. Who can smoke the most? Who can out-toke the predator? Who can out-toke the predator?

And also, like, I feel like he's definitely got some sort of vaporizer on that unit on his arm. You're like, oh, we haven't got any guitar cables and we haven't got the alien because you killed the alien. So what are we going to smoke out of? And he goes, and it's like one of those ones. In his alien language, gravity bomb. Gravity bong on there.

Boom. He just types. Oh my gosh. It's fine. There's nothing in there. You're good. Sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Yeah. He just. Yeah. He just types in gravity bong and it just appears out of his arm. It appears a little thing. Okay. He's upgraded to a five.

Also, I feel like in my head, I'm ranking them on how cool they would look smoking it. That's what I was saying. Specifically when the smoke comes out. Yeah. Like a predator. With the mask without the mask. Both good looks. Whoa.

Speaking off. Excuse us. leave this in for comedy effect please Simon running low on juice I think she's trying there we go we smoked out

as if we didn't have it totally hotbox for this whole section fuck what was I saying oh no yeah so like mask on you could get the smoke coming out from from different but then his weird little mouth thing you could also look cool with smoke coming out he could blow crazy like pentagram

dude yeah he could have like different shapes that we can't do with our mouse. So where's he rank him? He's a fork because if he doesn't have his mask on, I won't smoke with him. Why? Scared. Yeah.

What about the cool fucking things he can blow? Okay, I wouldn't, I wouldn't look at him when he does it. You just look at the shape afterwards. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. But, okay, Predator specifically mask on four.

Yes. The Babadook. He pisses me off. Yeah? Yeah. I ain't smoking with him. Pretty confident. The little kid in them will be.

You're not smoking with a little kid. But I'm going to think about him. Zero. I don't fuck with your friend. So I don't fuck with you. Okay. Oh, wow. Okay.

You've seen that movie? Yeah. I hate the little kid. Yeah, the little kid was really annoying. I like the movie, though. Yeah. I go, what, were you giving him Babadook then? Because of his friend, you don't like.

Zero, yeah. Because the kid might be there. Another zero. He's not going to be there. But I like it. I like the fact that your dedication to just having the boys in the fucking smoking. Yeah.

Okay. Any gremlin from the franchise gremlins. Okay. So you can pick it. You could still just say zero. You don't want to smoke with the gremlin. But then you could pick one of the gremlins. I'd have to.

I, I'd, okay, we're, if we're, if I'm smoking with a gremlin, we're not smoking gravity bongs. And because they can't have water.

After what time is it at midnight? Yeah, but it's not going to touch that. It might. It might. You might, you might, You might get the kiss of God.

You don't know. You might be picking one of the, one of the gremlins is already touched water. Because some of them, like, Gizmo's the only one out of the whole lot that's like, you can't.

Oh, no, they touch water and they get even more melting, don't they? They go crazy, yeah. But you've seen gremlins too? It's not like over the time. Aren't they like evil? It's super evil in that one?

No, it's like ridiculous. There's like a gremlin that is a woman. Ridiculous, I know. Oh, my God. Is it the one with the red with the lipstick? Yeah. There's like a goggly eyes gremlin. There's a Frank Sinatra gremlin.

Okay, yes. I am upgrading theirs. They have a lot of cool gremlins. I know, right. I'd smoke with the Frank Sinatra gremlin. He's got a cigar in the thing. That's what I'm saying. I'd smoke the cigar in the little holder thing?

Yeah. Oh. Like if you could have him, he's already smoking one step above. You could be the guy that's like, bro, you've just become sentient. Check this out. Check this out. Watch this shit. Check this.

out. That's a solid four. I won't go five though. You won't go four. You won't go five. Even though the man smokes. Okay, I'll go five. No, because if I have five, I have too many five. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, true, true, true. The none. The none? She doesn't even talk ever in any of those movies, right? Michael Myers was a four. Right. For not talking. Okay, but I like his vibe. Okay, vibes are off. Her vibes are off. She has pictures on the wall that I don't like. Yeah. She's always in a corner. You ever seen a conjuring two? Yeah.

Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah. Right, right, right, right, right. I'm out on her. You're out on... Yeah. Okay, so the nun is, what, a zero? That's a one.

I love your dedication to not giving zeros away, but you're real stingy on the fives. I get one zero. I forget who it was. Madison's got it. The Babadook and Freddie. Yeah, there's two. Oh, yeah.

And Freddie. I couldn't. Yeah. I couldn't. Hannibal Lecter from Science of the Lambs. Does he have his mouthguard mask on? Again, your choice, like the predator. It's not been harder for him to smoke.

See the Anthony Hopkins. Wait, what did you say? I think it'll be harder for him to smoke. It would be, but it'd be harder for him to attack me too. Yeah, he can still be strapped up. He just don't have his mask on. Yeah. Oh, he's just strapped.

I just have to get to him. This isn't real. This is not going to actually happen. You can decide. And also, we can all assume that no one here has negative intentions towards you. They're part of the smoke set. But she can assume, I'm assuming all these people want to kill you.

You have to take all the things in no. I thought this guy was going to be zero, zero, zero, going to kill me, zero, going to kill me, zero going to haunt me, zero going to abduct me. But no, you've let them in. The bloody stoners, you're too nice. Come smoke with us, bro. I'm literally a serial killer. Yeah, just come, bro.

Yeah, but like, if you, if you smoke, you might not be. You might be doing them a favor. All right. He might chill out. he's so clever. He might scare me. He might say something weird to me. Xenomorph not scaring you.

It's not going to say anything to me. Yeah. But the xenomorph respects me. And I don't think that Anthony Hopkins does. Okay. Now it's just Anthony Hopkins. He's out. You ain't smoking with us, Anthony.

What? I want to smoke with you. What? That was good. Anyone? I want to smoke with you. I want to smoke with you. Dracula.

Dracula style. Oh shit, we need to do Dracula. Dracula. I smoke with Drac. Which one? Drak. You actually said, I smoke with drag as if it's already happened. I smoke with drag.

I smoke with Drac. I was home. Dracula from Van Helsing, specifically. That's like one of my favorite movies. Movie is toilet. It was one of those ones as a kid that I just like latched onto and loved it. Same with her. I watched it over there with those.

It's not as bad as you're about to say. It's really not good. It's okay. It's entertaining. Yeah, it's the good parts with like the masquerade and stuff. I think it suffers from its time and the attempt it made at CGI. Yeah. CGI wasn't ready and you could have done practical effects and it would have probably been an awesome movie. But I was like, this looks like I'm watching.

Like somebody at school that's remade Trek is what I'm seeing. What are you giving drag on? You got from Van Helsing, no. Oh, a lot because I like him. I'll give him a four. He's a four. Yeah, I actually... This motherfucker is fours.

I don't want to give a... I'm scared to give a five. I don't want to give a... Have I given a three? It's not going to happen. Like, a couple. And you're the guy that loves seven. Okay.

Three is the seven. Okay. That's the six of ten out of ten, actually. I don't think it works like that. Yeah, you're right. But if it was in math, it would be. I don't think it would either. What do you mean?

No. If three out of five, multiply this by two. No, but that's that. That's how that works. No, but it doesn't because there's a percentage. Three out of five as a percentage is 60%. They don't seem the same. If you just double both of them.

Yeah, but three, no, but the six and there's five becomes ten. Okay, let me win this back. I am an idiot. I've got B in maths as well. but the stakes are higher for that slot is what is where my frame like I get it you mean for the out of five I thought they would be without checking in my head I thought there would be math to back up how I felt there but I was like the stakes are higher for like for giving a three no you're right I mean you're right mathematically I'm wrong no I know I see what you're saying like

three out of five is average seven out of five. It's fun. You gave a lot of it. I gave you said. I didn't get Hannibal Lecter's number. Oh. Oh. I don't think he gave it to us.

I say he scared me. I say he'd say weird things to me. I think Hopkins. Yeah, it's not a number though. Two. Two. Yeah. I feel like personally, sorry,

I keep interjecting with my opinion. I love a fun high intellectual debate. So I feel like it would just be turning into like a yap session. That's how I feel. It would be so much fun. But I think. Vinny much prefers the nonverbal stranger at the smoke. You know what I mean?

I want to feel threatened but not by words. Okay, nice. Okay, intellectual. Little boy from the grudge. Does he even name? Taschito. He's not of age to smoke. Well, that was quick.

Tashito's not of age to smoke with me. Unless in his culture, it is as a Japanese ghost, a Japanese demon. A yokai. A yokai. Is that what, like, he's actually considered a yokey? he i mean it just means ghost so oh well i i just i don't know i thought that like there's like a i don't know i don't know if he's specifically a type maybe he is how old is he pull him up how old he uh i'll give him

freddie's not there so he can come yeah yeah but i he's got a developing brain and i'm responsible and that's what fuck me up that's why I can't smoke yeah because I was the little boy from the grudge on that bomb he'd be good at the bong now he dot the face he maybe that's why he's like that

yeah man he's really boy he's like I don't want to come anywhere I'm too high to leave the house okay what's grudge boy he's a one I don't want to be with him not a zero though no Samara from the ring assuming she's of age yeah dude I actually don't even know anything about her

comes out of the one well, I do. I know that, but I mean, like, I don't know, like, how long she is or anything. I don't know. She's going to say anything to me. She's going to green out. Dude, if Samara greened out in front of me, she's just. It'd be kind of like a win.

And you'd be like, is this your normal shit or are you greening out? I'm going to have to say zero because this is a random story, but one time at a Canadian show at a random venue. one where there's a restaurant called spaghetti eddies. Does this sound familiar? Yeah. Very close by to the venue. There was a girl not going to say her name.

I actually know her name weirdly enough, but it was a completely random person who I thought looked like grudge-like hair over the face. Ring-like. Okay, yeah, that's what I meant. Sitting on the curb in front of our bus, just not moving, hair in the face. and it was scary.

It was a scary thing. Like, all of us were, like, peering through the curtains. Like, is, are we about to die? Is she okay? Was she okay? Did anyone check on us? Yeah, the venue, she, it was apparently like drugs or something.

The venue said she was a local, or a weed person. Yeah, she was a, what's it called? A weed, a pot head. Oh, this was in Canada? Was this in Vancouver? I don't remember, but that would sound about right because I, Is it the rich, the rich, the rich, or the theater is the one that's in

the place where they had to legalize drugs because it was so crazy and it's just crazy. Yeah, I don't think so, but it was definitely, the venue was like, yeah, I mean, she comes here all often. It's supposed to be a funny bit, you made this sad. I'm scared.

Well, all I was saying is she scared me. Just seeing her, I was scared. And if I saw her in real life, I'd be scared too. Samara, I mean. She's a poor drug addict. Samara or the other. girl. Maybe both.

If you, if you, if you give her the gateway drug, maybe I can get her some help. Maybe I can give Samara the gateway drug. Five. No, you said, you said one.

You said one. Canadian drug girls, five. Drug girls not in here. Zero. You said zero for Samara. Billy the puppet. From Saw.

Oh. Yeah. Not. Not Jigsaw. I was going to say people call him Jigsaw. Jigsaw. I'd be so pissed off if I was Billy.

I'm like, Number one on the face, this whole affair, and you're calling me the other guy. You're calling me Saw, Mr. Saw. Yes, he's the mastermind, but I am the branding. It's John Saw. John Saw. John, is John, though, isn't it? Oh, yeah, it is.

It is actually John. Saw 1 hasn't aged well. Great premise. That's one that they, what's it called? Spoofed in Scary Movie, right? Shack and Dr. Phil. Scary Movie 3, is that one? Yeah.

So good. Well, I'm going to have to say he's a, he's a, he's high. Because I would love to see him ride around on, yes. That's what I'm saying. He does a little circle and passes me the bowl and then goes back and then grabs him back. And I feel like if it was well lit, like he wouldn't be scary. That's what I'm saying. You'd be kind of cool.

I'll give him a five. That's a high. That's a high. Yeah, that's a high one. Even I've done it. Even I've, even I've, even I've, what? Miss named Billy

Oh sorry Wait did I say Jigsaw No I did After my whole Spiel Okay now Jigsaw He's low on the totem pole

He's got bad vibes You mean John Kramer Yeah Isn't he like dying as well That's like his whole thing right Like he's like he's got cancer He's probably already got weed Medicinally

To help with what's going on He might be able to help Get it in a state He might be able to help help me. I have my med card now. I don't need that. Do you? Yeah. What's the excuse? What's my excuse? Yeah. Oh, man.

Come on. It's an excuse. What's the excuse? anxiety. Like what I told. The drug that gives me insane anxiety. I can't believe it. She's the same. She gets anxious. She smokes and it goes away. I smoke and I have a panic attack. So Jigsaw vibes off or vibes you don't need him for the cards? What's he getting? He's a two. He's in two. I don't like him. You don't like him, but you don't hate him.

Yeah. Okay. Could be worse. The girl and the boy from hereditary. So Charlie and I can't remember his name. They come as a pair, much like, much like the party they go to. I could not deal with the girl making the noise. She's not.

What? You said she's there. A spoiler. Guys, this is a spoiler. If you haven't seen hereditary, I'm about to say a spoiler. It is. Okay, I'll do it kind of without a spoiler. Is this pre or post the...

The boy and the girl from Hereditary before that scene. Okay. And she's still doing the thing? She just does it. I mean, she just does it in the movie, didn't she? Yeah. Yeah, that's just like a thing she does. I couldn't deal with that.

I wouldn't like that. It would scare me. He smokes, though. He's definitely Gottwee. He's chill. In the movie, he's got weed. Has a panic attack, much like me. But it's actually a demonic possession.

yeah but does that i don't think that counteracts her making me feel scary she brings the vibe of that part she's just she's just and the vibe of the whole movie after her yeah poor girl poor girl not not all right but if she didn't have a head fucking spoiler so no head well i didn't go there but you did i in fact i do the opposite i would go it's him and her but it's her head only. Oh. As it is seen later on. Maggots and all.

Maggots. It's still low. Come on. I'll give her... Okay, I have to give them both. I'm trying to take them both into account. That's a hard one. Yeah, they're like cloak and dagger, bro.

You've got to take both of them. They're like cloak and dagger from Marvel rivals. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You've got to take both in them. You're selecting the character. That's just an average. three. They average each other out. Yeah. Yeah. He's a five and she's a zero.

Yeah, pretty much. Still, the math doesn't seem right in my head. Okay, Leatherface. Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And he doesn't have any intent on hurting me. There's no chainsaw. Of course he's got the chainsaw. Okay. Of course he's got that chainsaw. What do you think?

Is this whole thing? Is he really loud? Is he not going to turn up with leather face? Is he? He could just be Leatherface to that day. face. Comes completely normal. That's up, guys.

Oh, that smells loud. Yep. Mm-hmm. He cuts the weed with the... Yeah. Grined it up. I've actually only seen... Doesn't matter how you know.

Like, none of them. I've actually only seen none. I've seen... That's not a sentence. I've definitely seen them, but I don't remember them. All I remember is... He's terrifying. He's terrifying.

Yeah, and he's got a chainsaw and he's hell-bent on using it on... Just killing. Young people. people. So is he coming to you? I'm not young. So maybe, maybe if he asked me beforehand, he's like, are there is, is the kid from the grudge there? He's like, who else is coming to this bash? Yeah, he's asking me. And if he's not being weird about it like Freddie Kruger is,

then maybe I'll invite him. What are you going to rank him? A three. Honestly, four is the new three. I know. Four is the new three. We've got a winner. We got winners. There is only two fives on, sorry, three fives on the list. And it is xenomorph, ghost face, and Billy the puppet. Okay. And then how many fucking fours we got? Pinhead, Michael, Pennywise, Predator, Gremlins, and Dracula. Okay, how many people do you want are you a smoke fest?

I mean, I feel like it's normally like, what, three or four when people say like dream blunt rotation or whatever. Okay. So we got three. And then you're going to have to pick one from the fours. Xenomorf, Billy, and... Ghostface. Okay, so now based off Xenomov, Billy, and Ghostface, you now need to pick one more to complement that group.

So let's just run it down. You got a little part of you got... The fours again? The fours are Pinhead, Michael, Pennywise, the Clown, Predator, one of the gremlins. The smoking gremlin. And Dracula. I think it would be Frank Sinatra Gremlin.

Frank Sinatra Gremlin. So we got Billy the puppet, we got the xenomorph, we've got Ghost Face specifically from Scary Movie 2, and off the subs bench, we've got Frank Sinatra Gremlin from Gremlins. None of these people are humanoid. I'm a furry. Except, I mean, I guess ghost face is the only, you. human there with you. It's you and a bunch of fucking aliens and

dolls and shit. And I still perceive him as somebody that's not a humanoid because I don't know who's under the mask. Billy. Xenomorph. Ghost face. Fuck Mary Kill. You've made your decision?

I made my decision. Go. Hit me. I'm going to, so I have to do an order right. Fuck Mary Kill. So I am going to have to fuck Billy. Wow. Came in hot there. I'm going to have to fuck Billy. I'm going to have to kill.

Whoa, whoa, why. Reason for so adamantly bit. Okay. I'll go into. I'll go into it. I got to fuck Billy. I have to kill ghost face. And I have to marry the xenomorph.

And here's my reasoning. Okay. I have to fuck Billy because look at him. He's hot. And I have to, well, let's marry. You can't just say, look, look at him. What about him is so hot? Well, I mean, chiseled body, chiseled face, uh, rock makeup. Make up. You both got makeup on. Maybe you could give you the spirals to, rock,

you'd wear each other's makeup for once. I'll play. Okay. My next, my next thing might be the billy look. That's cool. He's, he's rock hard at a, at a, at a moment's notice. Constantly, some say. Yeah. And his complexion is impeccable. It's a great skin. It's more of like a... It's like porcelain almost. I don't know if I want to fuck you or be you. Kind of. And then Mary...

Kind of. Next. Go on. Mary, I'm going to have to go with the xenomorph. Great. Mary and the xenomorph. Yeah, mainly to... I mean, it's the perfect life form.

Yeah. Perfect organism. And to further the bloodline, I feel like that's a good choice. You know how she has sex. though, right? I am going to find out it feels... Well, it's the face hugger, isn't it? I think.

I don't think she does any... That's how... How does she get knocked up? Wait, that's actually a good question. How do the eggs happen? Wait, record scratch. Record scratch. How did the aliens too happen?

How did aliens? How did the queen... How was the queen creating all that? How did all the eggs get started? Who is impregnating her? Who's the king? the king That's so fucking

It's a valid point No it is Madison has tea Okay so it's via A complex parasitic cycle involving Eggs, facehuckers A Chestburster and a queen With an asexual process

Called egg morphing Allowing for reproduction Even without a queen Without a king Without a queen They're all female Okay but how did the queen How did the eggs?

How did the eggs happen? Or how did they? Because I know the face huggers come out of the eggs. Yeah, and they make more. But then who made the eggs? The queen did, but then who, why did the queen make it? Oh, she got it. The life cycle begins with eggs laid by the queen.

Facehugger, when a host is detected, the egg hatches and releases, a parasitic larva called a facehugger implantation. The facehugger attaches to the host's face, inserting a tube into the airway to implant the embryo. the chestburster after a period of gestation, the embryo develops into a chest burster, which violently erupts from the host chest, killing them. And then an adult xenomorph, a chestburster matures into an adult xenomorph. I got a question that's going to sound dumb.

Do chickens need to fuck to lay an egg, or do they just be laying eggs? I don't know this. They just be laying eggs, but not all eggs are fertilized. Yeah. But do they need like a male? Do they need a cock? To fertilize the eggs, yes. But they just lay regular eggs without like the yoke.

And then what? The man chicken fucks the egg? Or what? How does that work? Yeah, maybe the... Someone has to fuck the queen for her to make the egg is what I'm saying. Maybe the queen just makes them though. Maybe it's just like that.

Like it's just like an asexual. Plot hole thing. They probably have it, dude, the aliens should... I got the world's best Googler over there. Aliens story just does this. I want to know who knocking that queen up. Just like there's like a new xenomorph and they're like, oh yeah, that's the new like. Greg.

Yeah, it's just like this new movie has some crazy new xenomorph and then they come up with something as to how or why. And there has to be a sex scene. There usually is in almost all the movies. Yeah, but I mean like of the aliens. Oh. I'm sure. Mommy and daddy. Mommy and daddy alien having.

So anyway, okay. Side track there. Kill a ghost face. Why are you killing him? I had to. You just wanted to fuck Billy and marry her so much that he was just cannon fodder. Yeah. I mean, in this, yeah, he wasn't my first choice to kill.

I'll just say that. Like, it just was like a happen chance. He was a bystander. He's a product of you being forced into this. My sick fantasy. Okay, sick. No, my God, we're on two hours. Fuck.

I hope you liked 40 minutes. of that. I certainly did. I thought it was fun, spooky. I asked you to do a two truths and a lie, and you actually just said, I don't want to do it, but I do have a story that's crazy. I tried to do it. I just couldn't think of... Do you want to give me this fucking crazy story? I'll preface this with, I was... You suggested a two truths and a lie, and I was going to use this story as a truth, but there's a lot of things about it that are just like... That seems made up. It's not that long of a story, but, uh, you know, you know, Yeah, this is 20, sorry, WarpTor 2016.

And it's like the first week of tour. It's like, have you ever done WarpTor before? Not just the new ones. Okay, so essentially there'd be, like you show up a day or two before the Warp Tour date happens. The first one was usually always in Pomona, California. And it's kind of like a hangout for the first two days before the, tour really happens and they would always do these barbecues um on warp tour like probably twice a week three times a week and the barbecues you were usually sponsored by a band or whatever and this one

happened to be um insane clown posse so or maybe it was twisted one or the other i think it was twisted only hang out with people in makeup yeah i think it was twisted and so they were sponsoring sponsoring the the barbecue, which means essentially they're just at the grill, making burgers, doing whatever, you know. And it's just like a party. Yep. And they would always do this at the end of the night.

And so people have like juggalo face paint on. Like it's just like you can get your face painted and like whatever. And. Sounds awesome. Yes, it was awesome. And just a regular or whatever hangout. And our band,

our crew, whatever, We're very like, we keep to ourselves and kind of just hang out with each other. We don't really like go out of our way to like, you know, be social and stuff. And there was a woman earlier in that day that was, it wasn't very like significant or anything, but she was like brought up and she worked on Warp Tour. And she was actually, I'm not going to say what she did, but she was, I'll just say a higher up. and was on the production of Warp Tour. So, like, a lot of people knew who she was.

And we kind of knew who she was. I learned of her that morning. Met her met this woman earlier in the day. And just normal, whatever, normal interaction. And we're all just hanging out at the end of the night after the barbecue. And it's, like, maybe midnight or something, 1130 or whatever. There's a lot of us in the front lounge of the bus. There's probably, like, seven or eight of us just all sitting there,

just like shooting the shit and just talking whatever and we hear a knock on the bus and if you're on the bus and you hear a knock on the door nine times out of ten you're like what is happening because at least for us like we we're not like it could be dix or it could be anything it could be the xenomorph and your wife all right don't worry guys is my wife yeah but like it anytime you hear a knock in the door it's like kind of spooky everyone's just like uh check who's at the door whatever I'm standing there. I'll try to envision this for you. I'm standing, okay, in an American bus, as you enter the bus, you come up the stairs, right? And you turn left and there's usually a curtain that's open or closed up, like, if you want to, whatever. But you usually have it open

so you can go into the main area, the front lounge of the bus. And we're all just sitting in the front lounge of the bus. So if you were to come up those stairs, you're going to walk up and see like 10 people just sitting there. And so we hear this knock on the door. It's this woman. She has juggalo face paint on. And she says, like she just says, hey or something. And whoever opens the door is like, hey. And she's like, I think I left my phone on here. And they're like, okay. So she walks up the stairs. She stands there as she, notices there's now like 10 people looking at her. She's just like, I just, I think I forgot my phone back there. And she was like saying it kind of weird. And we were like, okay. And we just like,

all went back to intermingling. And she heads straight to the bathroom for some reason, like in the bus. And we were like, nobody really took notice. Nobody really like really thought about it. You knew already. Yeah. So like, oh, that's her. Like whatever. Back to what I'm doing. And she's in the bathroom for like a while and we're all just like just talking and stuff and then eventually someone's like yeah wasn't that didn't that like what where did that girl go like what happened with her and everyone was like oh yeah what did happen with her and then chris our singer was like should i like should i like check on her and we're like yeah and he like goes to open the door he like walks over or not open the door but knock on the door he does one knock and she immediately

opens it and and we're like we're all watching this like what what's going on and she's just standing there like they're like this far from each other and she's just like well this is awkward and he's like yeah are you okay and she's like she doesn't say anything just walks right past all of us and then leaves the bus and we were all like looking at each other like what was that that was really weird just came on the bus says she's missing her phone walks past all of us goes in the bathroom I was in there for 15 minutes and then leaves. And we were like, that was really weird. Like, we're just standing there.

Like, what was that about? And then someone was like, check the bathroom. Maybe she puked or something. And he opens the bathroom door. And he literally, like, starts fucking, he goes, oh, my. Like, like, screaming. Oh, my God. And we're like, what, what?

And he's like, dude, someone look in here. And we're like, I'm like, I'm, like, like immediately, like what is going on? And someone goes to look, she pooped in our toilet, did, had two turds in our toilet. And not only is there two turds in our toilet, there's, okay, anybody that's listening, you should never, ever, ever poop on a toilet that's in a bus. Yeah, it's not ever. And it's, I've seen it done many times to someone brings a girlfriend on the bus and don't tell them the

tampon down there or poop and like the girl comes back on the bus and then everyone knows this girl's shit on the bus and everyone is like too embarrassed for her to say anything and it costs a bunch of money like it's a lot of money yeah and it stinks and like whatever but anyways so the reason why i'm saying that though is because to take the precaution of just in case someone pooped on this bus, there was a strainer in the bottom of the toilet. So nothing could go down the hole. A little sieve. Pretty much nothing could go down the hole. So these turds are living on this little the little strainer. Living. Yeah. You've anthropomorphized them. And none of us had the, had the power within us to like do anything about it. So we waited for the bus driver to come back

and we told him that, and his name was Robin. And we told him, Robin, there's something going on in the bathroom. You will not believe. and it was none of us, I swear. And yeah, dude. Robin Antifish. Like, there, I have a picture. There's a picture, a candid photo of me when I found, because Chris had his phone. He was taking a video of all of this and, like, didn't know that any of this was happening.

He was just taking the video. And so he has the live reaction of everybody when this is going on. And there's a picture of me is one of my favorite pictures of myself where I am flabbergasted. I'm literally just looking at the bathroom like, Like just Cannot believe Pull that photo up I wish that

No no I think Madison can pull that photo up right now Why do you know? We were talking about And she's just got the law Behind the photo Okay dude We were if this is the photo

Am I wearing a red shirt I was wearing like a bull shirt Hold on Or something But this is the photo I'm gonna die Oh my God But it was the moment, like, you can see in my eyes that I am like, I cannot believe what's happening to me.

I think a picture I'm thinking of. You're wearing like a black hoodie. Oh, or maybe I was. Maybe I had my, my bull's, uh, land yard on. Let's see if we can pull it up. I think I had a bull's lanyard on, actually. But, yeah, I know I could text somebody right now and be like, hey, do you have the picture of me that they would know? Please get it if this is not the one.

But if this is the one, it's the perfect end to the podcast. because I was telling her how I needed like, you know, stuff on a production model. I was like, there's a lot of Vinny memes and stuff online. She was like, this is my personal favorite. I need to know what was going on in this photo. And if I'm honest to God, if that's the photo, that is it. No way. On my life.

Oh, my God. I swear to post it because I thought it was the funniest shit in the fucking world. Yeah, who posted that? Oh, I posted that. It was the funniest shit I'd seen. Yeah. Wait, is that from that actually happening? I don't know.

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and you cannot you cannot let this be told ever and I immediately am like dude you cannot believe what happened to every person

I knew I told Madison, there's a lot of stuff online and I want like photos and she was like this is my personal favorite. She had it screenshot it from back of the day. That is my favorite photo from tour like pretty much ever. That was my favorite photo of you. That's why it lives on my phone. Dude, so many of my friends. Now you know the insane law behind the photo. And it really is worthy of that reaction. Yeah, that's from a video. That's like a screenshot of a video and I cannot believe my eyes. What a great way to end the pod.

Hey. That's awesome that you have that. Thank you for... Madison's dying. Madison's got the... A 10-year-old law drop there. Can't believe a lot. Hey, thanks for coming on.

Dude, thanks for having me. I hope you come back. I will. I think it'll be... I think people will like it. I hope they like horror films. I hope you do. I mean, it's more...

It's actually... It's actually more... The funny things. You didn't ask about the band. Do you want me to ask about the band? Ask me a... something. Is it good, is it?

Being in your band? Yeah. Sick, I asked him about the band. What's the new music like? It's pretty good. See? It's cool. Ask me something about the drums.

What's the drums? You don't want to say it. Damn. You should do like, boom, like they're like, you know, when they're like... Oh, I can do it. Dude, can you really? I can do it.

If we were blazing right now, You mean like a note? Yeah, like where you like talk. Oh, why, you can do it. Misbent youth. Hey, happy Halloween, guys. Happy Halloween, everybody. Happy Halloween.

Thanks, mate.