The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi - #134 Abortion Yacht Club with Joyelle Nicole Johnson

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

Comedian Joyelle Nicole Johnson joins to discuss having a deadbeat dad who was also an acclaimed abortion doctor, looking for a liberal gun store in Georgia, our mutual fear of performing on roasts, bailing on my show for the WGA Awards, Tovah’s April Fools’ Day prank, and whether Russell would ever include me in his award acceptance speeches. You can watch full video of this episode HERE! Join the Patreon for ad-free episodes, exclusive content, and MORE. Follow Joyelle Nicole Johnson on Instagram and Twitter Watch Joyelle's special, Love Joy, on Peacock Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, & YouTube Subscribe to Gianmarco Soresi's email & texting lists Check out Gianmarco Soresi's bi-monthly show in NYC Get tickets to see Gianmarco Soresi in a city near you Watch Gianmarco Soresi's special "Shelf Life" on Amazon Follow Russell Daniels on Twitter & Instagram See Russell in Titanique in NYC! E-mail the show at [e-mail] Produced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco Soresi Video edited by Dave Columbo Special Thanks Tovah Silbermann Part of the Authentic Podcast Network Original music by Douglas Goodhart Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I have a couple things I need to complain about. Please talk. Russell, I'm sure you have things. I haven't seen you. We went to Houston, and I knew you'd need a reset from me. You vanished text-wise until now. I vanished from everyone. Listen, I am drowning right now, and I'm a bit numb,

and so I feel a bit depressed because I'm numb. I'm not excited about anything. I'm just on this hamster wheel of doing these shows and working. And I'm on a loop right now. And I'm struggling to breathe. Well, we're so excited to have you here today. Way to bring up the energy, Russ. I'm depressed.

Joya? Now, this is coming out. So this is coming out after this happens So we can talk freely You have a new agent He's seeing you tomorrow And he hasn't seen you before Just like tape Nice

But the real impression Which type of agent? At Gersh, um, legit. Um, uh, so, um, yeah. Um, so, um, yeah, I'm a little nervous cause it's one of those things too. It's a Tuesday night. Like if I was like a Saturday night crowd or even a Sunday night crowd, those are our best crowds Thursday through Thursday through Sunday are reliable. It's better than a Sunday matinee.

I'll say that. But Tuesday night it's like please, please. I just wonder Are you in a Broadway play? I'm in an off-Broadway musical. Oh, I heard about Titanic! I want to come see that. Come see it. Come see it.

Come tomorrow, Tuesday. It's near Union Square? I did a show with Jessica Kirsten and dropped her off come see it come see it oh my goodness come tomorrow on Tuesday is it it's near Union Square yes yeah I was I did a show with Jessica Kirsten and dropped her off to go see that she came and saw it

yeah I wish I had known she was there I didn't know yeah fuck we get her on the goddamn show oh man

yeah check it out yeah I'm gonna come I'm just wondering with Tova how cause she can put on a laugh if she wants to yeah

and but she knows she's gonna go tomorrow with the agent okay and so you know Tova how, because she can put on a laugh if she wants to. But she knows she's going to go tomorrow with the agent. And so Tova wants it to go well too. And I'm just curious how she's going to monitor how hard she laughs at your part. I've been in a play when Tova was in the crowd and I heard her.

I forgot I saw your play at 59 and 59. I do have a couple other friends going too, which I like just by chance. And so that's good. It's good, but it's still, it's a big room. You can't sway the room unless you're bringing a hundred people.

The other day, one of the new cast members had about 50 people in the audience yesterday. And were they murdering? Yeah, they went well. You know, it's like, it's not a huge comedic part, but it's like they have two big songs. Like we're, so like they got like. Well, you know, I'm a bad laugher, so I won't be there. Don't you well. You know, it's not a huge comedic part, but it's like they have two big songs. So, like, they got, like... Well, you know I'm a bad laugher, so I won't be there.

Don't you worry. I know. I know. I'm a great laugher. Are you a great laugher? Yes. But I have a laugh that is a little, might be distracting sometimes, because it's like an old black woman laugh, so...

Uh-huh. You know? Was it always an old black woman laugh? Oh, no. Guys, I've gotten older. It's been old, you know? So I'm like, ha, ha, ha. Like, I'm, you know, it's very... But that could be good.

Root chakra. Whenever I have, like, a really tough audience, I've always wanted to experiment with, like, the good laughers I know in my life. I'm like, would one good laugher change this whole room? I think it could. Yeah. I know a couple people whose laughs is so funny in and of itself that they grease the wheels. Yeah. And I believe if people whose laughs is so funny in and of itself. Yeah. That they grease the wheels.

Yeah. And I believe if you got them there. Let me tell you something. I, Saturday night, we had the craziest crowd we've had. And I've been doing the show since November. We had the craziest crowd we've ever had Saturday night. I mean, it was like they were standing O's during the show. They were dancing.

They were getting up in the aisles. They were wild. Like wild people screaming. It wasles. They were wild, like wild people screaming. It was great. It was great. Good wild, yeah. And then from the highest of highs to the Sunday matinee was definitely the worst crowd we've ever had.

Yes. These were people weren't even applauding at the ends of songs. Like they collectively, a whole group, 300 people, they were either going to kill themselves that day or they were going to go see Titanic and they all decided to go see Titanic. Thank you so much for coming to my show today.

It was the craziest whiplash to be like, we really felt like we were like, yeah, this is the greatest show in New York. And then the next day, not one of those people. It was really demoralizing. God keeps you humble. Before I was a stand-up comedian, I did a show called

On the Razzle in high school. Yes, you did. Look at your On the Razzle shoulders. It was British and I was the fun servant quirky character. We were killing. At least. And we were killing. At least we thought we were killing.

And then we had a matinee once. And like nothing was popping. And then during the intermission, I went back to the director. I was like, why aren't they laughing? It's you. Why aren't they laughing? And I cried. And it was because it was like that first time in my life I really got a taste of like yeah sometimes

they don't like you I'm not used to it I really hate it I'm not used to it he gets so mad he gets so mad he's like a sketch comedian usually the shows are big

it's a hot show every time you're doing it once a month or at the most and so now that it's a hot show every time yeah you're doing it once a month or at the most you know and so and so now that it's more regular it's especially going into that sunday matinee because it's usually that's reliably the quietest crowd um and it's also the older crowd and it's a it's a you know it's a very you know the show it is what it is it's not really designed for older crowd people. So it's just one of those things where I get so mad. I get in fights in my head with specific audience members where I'm like, why the fuck are you here today? Go. Go.

I can relate. Get out of here. You don't want to be here. You don't want to be here. I'm not a big laugher and I might still want to be somewhere. Well, I can tell the different people. But your face will be different. Yes.

There's people that don't arm again. Your arms ain't crossed. Yeah. There's people that are like, they're smiling and they're present. If you were a stand-up comedian, would you be one of the guys like, are you having a good time? Well, tell it to your face. Absolutely.

When I did the play, so luckily you are downtown a bit. I was uptown off Broadway. 59 East 59. Yes. That has, youngest people are 59. So, I mean, we are literally in there like senior citizens. And while the run was interesting, but those older crowds, man, they will be looking at you. Jessica Carson does a great impression of what these women would sound like.

Like, I need to take my, I don't know, pills or something. And it was a play. I mean, it was a play. It was a play. It was a play. Time passed. Was it a whole, were you one person or a whole cast? It was a cast.

It was a cast. It was epic. How long are we talking? Russell, it was a long play. Two hours and 20 minutes. Two hours and 20 minutes. Two hours and 20 minutes. Okay. And how long did you do that run for?

28 performances. Oh, okay. I thought you were going to say 28. And you got old in it, right? Didn't you get old or you got drunk? I didn't get old, but I did get drunk. You did get drunk. That was a character choice that I chose.

I got old, but like through time, maybe like a decade in it. Was it a comedy? Yes. Yes. A two hour Was it a comedy? Yes. Yes. A two hour and 20 minute comedy. Yes. And a complex comedy. Multiple, multiple characters.

A period piece. A period piece. Was it an old play or a new play? A new play. A new play. Yeah. Interesting. Very interesting.

I think Tova's client? Yes. Yeah. Another Milberman member. Yeah. That's how show business works. You're either with Milberman or you're not. Or you're either with milberman or you're not or you're not so yes i but i can relate to that going into the like the double the two days where

you're just like yeah i i have to kind of now be like almost treat it like um this is not not i'm not saying this is like i'm not doing a good job when i do it but i have to think of it as the warm-up for the night Cause I have to be like, I really have to figure out my mind right now because I'm, I'm struggling. I'm getting in fights. I'm getting so angry. I'm getting so angry.

And it's like, it's like, it's almost like a math equation. If I don't get every single laugh that I have programmed where they need to be, I am like, I'm spiraling. they need to be I am like I'm spiraling I'm like analyzing like why did this

work this one why does this work 90% of the time it doesn't work you know what I mean and then I'm like do I need to change it do I need to change it because you're doing a long run so you're constantly questioning like do I need to change this moment do I need to you know by the end of this run you've become me and I've become you and you are just high str, listening back to sets.

Let me play this music. This is The Downside. One, two, three. Downside. You're listening to The Downside. The Downside. With Gianmarco Cerezi. Well, I want to go deep into – I'm going to bring this up.

So I had two things I wanted to talk about. I was just in Louisville. Oh, by the way, this is the downside. This is a place where you can be negative, complain, kvetch, moan, bitch, whine. You know, if you're feeling good, get out of here. If you're feeling bad, you're going to feel a little better in comparison to how we are doing. If you're a fan, join the Patreon, patreon.com slash downside. We just hit 100.

Yes. You know Tim Dillon's at 100,000. Yep. Right behind you. So we're working there. At 150, we're doing a big bonus episode. We're going to go through the New York Times questions of falling in love. Oh, yes. Wait, 100, of falling in love. Oh yes.

And, uh, a hundred thousand episodes. No, Tim, Tim Dillard's like, has like, you know,

a hundred thousand Patriot supporters. He's just making a mil a month or some shit. I was like a hundred thousand. Oh, but a hundred people are paying. Can you imagine if we had a hundred people every month? Very cute. Hey,

it's great. It's great. We're excited. Two 50. We'll do one bonus episode a month. We got things. Yeah. I still got to get that tattoo that I promised I'd get at $50.

Yeah, you got to get a tattoo. So this thing I wanted to talk about, I don't know if you saw my tank top. This is Truckers, Trucking Angels for Christ. And I was in Louisville, and I always try to do – I'm done with museums. Food is good, but at a certain point, it's like, oh, good tacos here, good tacos there. So I'm trying to have an experience that I can only get there. And in Louisville, there was a trucker expo.

So I went to really for people in the industry. Yeah, it's not really. I mean, like this stand was just about the wheel rim, and this one's just about the horn. I couldn't understand most of it. Yeah, it's not like a Comic-Con thing. Yeah. It's very much designed for truckers.

It's niche. But you get a sample of, like, the world. Was that free? No. So I saw there was this... Did you pay $25 for it? How did you know that? That was a really good guess.

I was going to say $20 to $25, yeah. And I was so, like, I saw it. I sent it to Tova. I was like, I want to get it. And then I thought. What did she say? She thought I should get the sweater, but that was like $60 or something. She said, you better sell two extra cum racks tonight, baby.

But. He sells cum towels as his merch. Oh, I get it. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't, like, baby. But. He sells cum towels as his merch. Oh, I get it. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't like making some weird. I read between the lines. So I was nervous. I didn't. I'm not.

I mean, behind the scenes, but I'm not a rude person in public. I don't want to make these people feel bad for their delusions in person. So I was nervous they could tell I was making fun of them. Or, you know, I asked, could I try it on over my shirt? And I was like, they must know, either they think I'm making fun of them or they think I'm gay, which I don't think they'd be okay with either.

I was about to say, it doesn't seem like the three of us would be accepted there. Luckily, you don't look the part. Sure, sure. But all three of us together, we are the anti-trucker expo crew. I don't think they can tell

that I'm a Jew because I don't think there's a lot of Jews there. But that's what I'm saying. They can't clock you. Yes. They clocking us. Well, you be quiet.

You could fit into the trucking community. I could fit in. I could fit in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but then, so they gave me this. It comes with a free Bible of sorts. And then this, which a real life stories truckers edition, volume one.

Ambitious. I don't think there's a volume two, but they put the one there just to. Wow. And I was, you know, reading through some of these stories. It's about people coming back to Jesus and whatnot. And I feel like I had a moment of revelation, not of the godly kind. Because I was reading a lot of these stories about these truck drivers coming back to Jesus in the 30s, 40s, and 50s. Involved cheating on their wives.

Surprise. cheating on their wives surprise and i think i had this moment where i said oh they converting or like re-re-connecting to god is a get out of jail card absolutely and so a lot of these guys oh yeah they they got caught cheating and like the the the only way to get out of that is like, baby, I'm going back to church. Born again. I'm recommitting to God. And I said, fuck, that's why people like this happens. All the stories were cheating. And then the wife kicked them out.

And then they came back and she said, are you really committing yourself to Jesus? It was like code for like, are you really committing yourself to this framework that I would like my life to be? Oh, yeah. I feel the same way as like drug addicts, too. They'll be born again. Uh-huh. And, you know, oh, I did some gay shit and now I'm born again. Like I dabbled.

Oh, no. Jesus. Like, help. It's funny turning to like a very fit man to save you from your gayness. They always got to do extremes. a very fit man to save you from your gayness. They always got to do extremes. But what's interesting, I think,

is that in a non-religious world, we don't necessarily have the kind of forgiveness that is granted in this kind of religious framework. Because all we have is, I'm really sorry. I won't do it again. But they get an extra boost of, I'm Jesus now. I'm Jesus. I'm Jesus now. So it was

just fascinating. What a great rate. Oh, this is oh, yeah. Okay. Wow. This is all New Testament. That's just Bible verses. No excerpts. No paragraphs. You ain't highlighting You know what? It was really I wanted to. It's like dull as fuck. It could not be more.

What page did you get to? This is the one that I did look at. I returned home from that trip. So he did a bunch of drugs. I returned home from that trip and confessed to my wife all the things that had been going on in my life. I told her that I had accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior. As expected, my wife told me I needed to pack up and leave for good. I knew she had the right to ask me to leave,

and I accepted that I had brought all of this on myself. However, I returned three days later to see my son and retrieve some personal items. When I walked through the door, she asked, Is it real? Did you really accept Jesus? My response was yes, and then she let me put it in her butt. No.

Yes, I made that up, Joanne. Oh response was yes. And then she let me put it in her body. No. Yes, I made that up, Joanne. Oh my God. You had me for a second there. I was like, okay. Not you punching it up. My response was yes, that I would serve him with or without her. I told her I would like to be with her.

At that point, we got on our knees. Seems like we could be getting closer to my ending. We got on our knees and she asked Jesus into her heart. She then turned to me and said, as of now, we start over. And then we have three sons who have Christian homes and godly wives. But then at one point, I think this was... So God's looking over him. A lot of help, a lot of love.

My 40-year truck driving career ended in 2011 after a major three-truck pileup, which should have ended my life. I walked away from a burning gasoline tanker with injuries that took three months of healing and physical therapy. My wife and I agreed it was time to hang up the keys. I am now the safety director for the same company I was driving for when the accident occurred. I sometimes wonder, what kind of God would let me be in a three-pile truck driving accident. Not a good God. I'm now an atheist. Oh, my God.

You said it was dumb. Jamarco. Okay, so these headshots in the back. I feel bad because some of them, did they know that this was going to be on a book? You know what I mean? Some of them aren't even smiling in those headshots. One looks like a selfie. Yeah, so it looks like one of those on Twitter sometimes.

They joke about when the replies look like a bunch of January 6th. The dark guy. Oh, he didn't know how to light himself. He looked like he was in the witness protection program. So, you know, if you're in Louisville, donate to these people. They do seem nice. This part seems nice.

What's so hard is that part of this is nice. It's nice, yeah. But I know they're homophobic. I know they're racist. I know they're transphobic. And it really sucks because They hate their wives. Because there's a part of it where these guys are not being helped by my leftist friends in Brooklyn. No.

But they need a hand. They need a therapist. They need something. And it really is a conundrum. So that was my downside. How much did it cost to go to this trucker convention? $25. I think it was $20.

To just get in the room? Yeah. I mean, it was huge. What is a room? Like a rodeo? What else was there? No, it was a big expo center. It was like-

Was there anything free? Free food? Free anything? I did get- There was some hot sauce tasting. And then they had a show. They had an arm wrestling competition. I thought it was real

but it turned out it was like like they did it like it was uh professional wrestling like it was like i wanted to watch like basically it was like these two girls were gonna go at it and then this big wrestler was like i could beat both of you and i was like no now it's a show yeah uh and then they and then so so he was and he was huge this guy could have killed both these women in two seconds but so he's wrestling one of them and the other girl goes to the side and like distracts And he was huge. This guy could have killed both these women in two seconds. But so he's wrestling one of them. And the other girl goes to the side and distracts him with her body. And he gets distracted like, oh, yeah, look at this.

And then the other woman wins. And he goes, she cheated. She cheated. How often do you think they're doing this performance? Like every hour? It made me wish when I was a non-union actor, I got to do occasionally some crazy shit like that. Yeah. And I was like, you know what?

It was kind of fun. It's like Sleep No More, but like for this Tucker convention. Sleep No More was fantastic. I finally went. Oh, yeah? You did? Yes, finally. Oh, I got to take Tova. I don't know if she'd dig it, but it's a, because it's a solo experience.

Like you walked on your own? No, I was clinging to my boyfriend. Oh, you were? Yeah, I was like, you ain't leaving me. Oh, for me. We also did shrooms. I was like, you can't leave me. I was like, I'm in the darkness.

I would have been in a corner somewhere crying. I had a weird experience when I did it. I did it wrong. And I saw like the same scene three times. And I was like, fuck, how did this happen? You kept getting lost? I was so mad because everyone I talked to has had such a great time at that show.

For people at home in Louisville who don't know what Sleep No More is, it's an interactive, it's like a trucking expo but for gay dancers. And everyone wears a mask, the audience wears a mask, you walk around and they do dances and they reenact Macbeth.

Yeah, I saw the same scene like three times. I was always walking into a room while everyone was leaving. So I was like always like things just missing it. And then I accidentally left. Like I left where the thing was happening. Before the final scene. Yeah, I missed the final scene. I missed the final scene as well.

At the end, Macbeth hangs himself, right? I just didn't do a very good job. Yes. And I just, I left. Yeah, I missed the final scene. I missed the final scene as well. At the end, Macbeth hangs himself, right? I just didn't do a very good job. Yes. And I just, I left, I said I needed a break. I'd gone early, so I'd been there

for like two and a half hours. Yeah. And then I left and then suddenly everyone poured out and they were like, oh my God, he hung up.

It's the best thing. Yeah, me and my friends were drinking in the little speakeasy and they were like, y'all should probably go inside because something's happening. And we were like,

okay, thanks for that. Yeah. That's nice. Because I was exhausted. It's a cool atmosphere though. and they were like y'all should probably go inside because something's happening and we were like okay thanks for that yeah that's nice i was exhausted it's a cool atmosphere though you know it's it's so cool it's amazing that you know people don't fuck it up more often because there's like body there's bodyguards that kind of because the dance is like all over so they'll kind of move the crowd there's a lot of choreography it's it's incredible it was it was incredible this episode is brought to you by a real pain from searchlight pictures comes one of the buzziest films at sundance film festival a real pain written directed and starring oscar nominee jesse eisenberg alongside emmy award

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Joelle for a show at Sesh Comedy Club. She even shared the flyer that I posted and Tova said to me, Joelle's not that I posted. And Tova said to me, Joy Hill's not doing that show. And I said, excuse me. This is not beneath her. Was this in the middle of the show?

No, it was the week before. And I was like, she shared it. And Tova was like, no, she's going to the which award show? Oh, WGA Awards. The WGA Awards that night. And I was like, she shared it though. She shared it. And then I wrote you.

I said, Tova said, you're not doing my show. You're at the awards. And you're like, right. Yes, I am. I am. Listen, I forgot about this today. Like I was sitting on my couch and I got the notification on the phone. Email, got the email, confirmed the email, everything.

That's why I need a new assistant. I'm like testing out assistants and i i need one because i i'm a dope dope yeah she was like jl is not gonna be there and i was like you are correct i will not be there i will be dressed up on a red carpet and i think tovaro you you had i loved you had a purse that said pro-choice pro-abortion pro-abortion i am pro-abortion and i asked tova to ask you if if they sold purse that said pro-choice. Pro-abortion. Pro-abortion. I am pro-abortion. And I asked Tova to ask you if they sold one that was pro-life. Yes, you did.

I said, boo. Tell them to go take a nap. No, I loved it. Where did that come from? There's an artist, Michelle Pred, who makes those purses specifically. They light up, so they've got bands off our bodies, equal pay. And basically she'll have museum exhibits with them. They're pieces of artwork.

There's a battery inside to make the words light up. Yeah, and so we've been wearing them all over the country, the women. So whenever I have a red carpet, she'll ship me a bag and I'll wear it. Did you get any hate messages back that said, how dare you? No. I mean, just general, you know, people just be like, you're going to hell.

And I'm like, duh. That's where the fun people are. Well, how was that award show? Was it good? Was that your first? Oh, it was so good. Two big award shows recently. Yes.

Critics' Choice Awards as well. I had the Critics' Choice Awards, which was my first award show? Was it good? Was that your first? Oh, it was so good. You've had two big award shows recently. That? Yes. Critics' Choice Awards as well. I had the Critics' Choice Awards, which was my first award show. So much fun. But non-televised ones, a little messier. Yeah? In a fun way? Oh, yeah. Everyone's getting drunk.

We were right by the open bar. It was fun and messy. We were in there. Wait, was Critics' Choice not televised? Critics' Choice was televised. Oh, okay. WGA wasn't. Oh, okay. The speeches must be better.

Because I feel like you don't need to thank everyone. It's so boring. But I understand why you need to thank all these people. And I think we need to just change the custom that you tweet out your thanks to the people and you make a fun speech. Make a fun speech. That's what I would rather do.

I'd rather make a fun speech. But I always thought that. And now I've, you know, known enough people who I'm dependent on for my any success. And I'm like, I do have to thank him. I have to thank him. I have to thank him. You gotta thank Tova. What award would you thank me for?

Thank you. Like if you won. Thank you? Like if you won... Thank you? How dare you? I guess if I won best co-host of a podcast on some fake podcasting thing, what else would I thank you for? Best podcast couch.

What award would you thank me for? If I won a Lifetime Achievement Award, I would think that I would include you in that time frame. Listen, if you're going that deep, that's a boring speech. Yeah, I feel like you encompass friends, and the friends that know that they're included know that. You know what I mean? Okay.

You just said that. You just said don't be saying random people's names. Me and Chris Douglas would know who you're talking about when he said be friends. You'd be like, he doesn't have a secret group of friends that we haven't met. It's just us three. It's just the three of us.

It is true. It's scary. I got a lot of eggs in this basket. Oh my God. Did you win any? No, we did not win um inside amy schumer won so i was nominated for pause with sam jay and then inside amy schumer won and snl was also in the category and that was funny because um what's homegirl's name from marvelous mrs. mazel uh the From Marvelous Mrs. Maisel? The lead? No. Mad TV.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, oh. Alex. Borg. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. What are these two names? Bornstein.

Bornstein? Yes. Okay. And the irony was she pronounced my name right, so I was very happy about that. She pronounced my name right. But for the SNL, she had to say like 40 names. So when she got through that, she bitch she said 40 names can i tell you a sam j story i i think i can share this story sure so i don't know sam j particularly yeah but one day she came to the cellar and i think i think she was on shrooms sure because she said she was on shrooms sure and she sat next to me and we

like talked with a table of many people for like 15 minutes and the whole time she was on shrooms. Sure. And she sat next to me and we like talked with a table of many people for like 15 minutes. And the whole time she was like rubbing my head. And I thought to myself, you're not going to remember this at all. And I'm going to remember it and know it. Forever. And I will look at you with a familiarity that you will not think is earned in any way, shape, or form, but is in fact 100% earned on my end. Wow. And sure enough,

there's no way she knows. That's so funny. I doubt she knows that at all. Just the whole, just like, so yeah, I went to the... Was it just a texture thing? Yeah, I think just this feels nice.

Yeah. For the whole 15 minutes was no one else at the table acknowledging this yeah was anyone else like what's going i think she just announced i mean they assumed we were good good friends best best good friends wow i had no idea chamarco sam jay were so close. Someone she would thank in an acceptance speech. Sam was not at the WGA Awards for her own show, which was fun. I always say to myself, I tell Tove all the time, I say, I'm not going to do this award show shit. Yes, you are. You are full of shit.

Okay, I'll do it the first time round. The first time round. But I want to be the person that doesn't. I don't think I'd enjoy it. I don't like dressing up in a suit. You are a liar. I know. I'm going to buck the system.

You brought this pink trucker shirt. You like to dress up. That's what I want. I want to wear something fun. I just think it's tough to be. It's just tough for a guy to wear a cool outfit. No, it's not. I love what the guys are doing on the red carpet. Donald Glover

always has something fun. Donald Glover is cool, but I'm not cool. Donald Glover is cool. I don't know how I'd play it. You're a tall man. You like wearing clothes. I'd wear colors. It'd be something funky. You are an entire peacock.

Shut up. I don't think I like it. With your chest and your shoulders. You have your razzle dazzle shoulders out. He got sparkles on his titties. When it comes to me and Tova, I'm definitely the more like colors. Tova still has this old, it's the Chabad thing where it's just like wearing all black.

Is La Chabad? Chabad. Oh. It's a sect of Hasidic Judaism. I think it changes every goddamn time Tova tells me what it is. But that's what she grew up in. But there's not a lot of fashion going on there.

So we went clothes shopping the other day. Tova put on this outfit, black pants and a pink thing. And then we left. I said said did you get the pink thing she said no i just got the black pants and i was like what the fuck and i went back yeah and i bought her the pink thing oh look at you you like pink things i do like pink things yeah i i told you if i um could i think someday i'm gonna transition into just wearing the same outfit every day. That's my dream. Yeah. Would it be black? It would be the Louis C.K. special.

No, actually, I think the jeans are too... I don't... They're too... I don't know. I'm not connected to jeans. I think it would be some kind of... I don't want to say sweatpants because that feels sad, but a higher-end sweatpants. I'm working on higher to say sweatpants because that feels like sad, but like a higher end sweatpants.

See, I'm working on higher end sweatpants. And a black shoe that looks nice, but it's a slip-on. You'd wear this on stage at the Cellar? I have worn this on stage. I wore it to the last brunch show and Estee loves the way I dress. Like I tell new comics, if you're auditioning at the Cellar, dress up because Estee loves like the old, she wishes comics like. Oh, really? Care about how they dress. Yeah. John Margo's in a suit tonight. Yeah. auditioning at the cellar dress up because sd loves like the old she wishes comics like oh really are they dressed yeah john marco's in a suit tonight yeah peacock so um i i love playing

dress up so she'll always be like oh look at you and i love your you know sd just always that's a good impression thank you um but i wore this the brunch show because i was exhausted i was on stage like 2 30 in the morning that that Saturday and then I had to be there for the brunch show and I wore this and she was like I even love this this is fantastic too just confirm you wore this yesterday last week

this is my everyday I have like two of these sweatshirts and then I have another one that says abortion yacht club abortion yacht club? did that come with an abortion they gave it for free unfortunately not but did you talk in your special about having an abortion absolutely i am the abortion girl yeah yeah how many one just one just one for me but i for everyone i want them for everyone who wants of course do you mind me asking how late into

the pregnancy you got the abortion? Yes, actually it was in the second trimester. Really? Yeah. Did it take that long to find out? Well, it took a while to find out, but then also to schedule the appointment. So I was shortly in just like three and a half months. And what state was this?

New Jersey. New Jersey. Yeah. What's the cutoff point in New Jersey? I actually don't know what the cutoff point is. I think you might be allowed to have it all the way up because the thing about third trimester abortions, it's a very specific procedure that not a lot of women get

and there's only like three doctors in the country that can do it. Are you serious? Yeah. And they're like in their 80s. Oh my god. I had no idea. So even in places where a third trimester abortion

is legal, you might not be able to find the person to do it. Not only find them, schedule it, and it's a very expensive procedure. It's like $30,000. Oh my god. And I imagine there's a lot of states where it's like $30,000. Oh my God. Yeah. And I imagine there's a lot of states where it's not legal.

Most states. I like, I think Matt, I think you can do it in Maryland. Maybe New York. Is this pre Roe v. Wade? There was still a bunch of states that wouldn't allow that. For sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Third trimester. But third trimester is also life of the mother, life of the baby there. If a woman wants to have a kid,

she's not waking up, you know, in the third trimester like, I just think I'm going to have an abortion. No, this is a woman who wanted her baby. I see. Who either found out she's going to die or the baby's going to die. And that's why they have to get the procedure. You know. I just, it's so, it's so difficult scheduling a foot doctor. I just can't imagine.

Can you imagine? And we're on a time clock here, baby. And it's crazy. You know the person, whoever runs the front desk is like, they can see you in 10 months. Absolutely. And you're like, hey, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely. We cannot do that. Yeah, I met one of the doctors. He lives in Omaha, Nebraska.

So he spends three days in Omaha, travels to Maryland, three days in Maryland. That's his life. He's I think 82 years old. And that's his whole week every week because he three days in Maryland. That's his life. He's, I think, 82 years old. And that's his whole week every week because he's so in demand because he's the only, he's one of the few that can do this procedure.

Holy shit. Yeah. So it's like when we say we're under attack for actual lives, like he's saving people's lives. You know? Is he making some good money? He must make some good money. It's got to be a scary life, though.

I mean, he must need security. Absolutely, yeah. You don't want to be the well-known third trimester abortion guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People are trying to kill you. His friend is... That's like, hey, don't go and...

Don't review me. You don't have to review me. Don't worry about it. Yeah, they killed his friend. They did? Yeah. Did his friend help or just to make him sad? No, he was also a doctor. Oh, he was also a doctor. He was also a doctor. Just like his friend. I thought? Yeah. Did his friend help or just to make him sad? No, he was also

a doctor. Oh, he was also a doctor. I thought it was just like we'll kill everybody. He was me. They hosted a podcast together. Yeah, yeah. The hell are you talking about? He held his friend hostage. Oh, man.

When you got it, was it nothing for you? Did it feel... I had a friend who got an abortion recently, and she certainly couldn't be more pro-abortion, but it was still... I think for a couple of days she was sad. Absolutely. And that's the thing where it's like,

we're not fighting for this right to be like, yay, we're just in the streets, abortion's for everyone. not fighting for this right to be like yay we're just in the streets we're just for everyone no this is a decision that you have to make that's gonna you know potentially change your life sure so it is a heavy decision for a lot of people there are some people that are a little bit easier like let's just go i was one of them because i was raised by a mother who was a nurse who to my father who was an abortion doctor oh my god really yeah wow my dead be dead so yes so like I always knew it like from a young age my mother always talked to me about it she was like if you ever get pregnant let me know when I told her I was

pregnant she was like what do you want to do you know she left it up to me she was like I don't even help you take care of the kid. I was still in college. So that's the thing where it's like, we, you know, you'll still have issues. You still might need to talk to a therapist about it, you know, because,

because the world's telling you you're a murderer. Yeah, sure. That's not easy. Luckily, I just had a mother who's fully supported me. And a lot of people do not have that. Tell me about your,

your dad. Cause I know, I know you, I didn't know he was an abortion doctor. First all is that is that a certain field or is he a ob-gyn or ob-gyn yeah but with a specialty in this yeah so he became a doctor in the 50s a black doctor in the 50s which is very hard to do and then ro Roe was passed in 1973. So there was a lot of money to be made at that point because women were doing it not only illegally, but very unsafe.

Alison Leiby had her abortion show where her mother had to get an illegal abortion. They blindfolded her and put her in a car. Yeah, it was like a mafia thing. Yeah, like a mafia bag over the head. So when it became safe and legal, I mean, he was in business. My mother said they were taking cash. And my father was a wild, crazy, fur coats down to the floor type of black man in the 70s.

Even in the hospital, too? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like a famous doctor in New Jersey because women would come all over the East Coast to him because he developed a procedure that made it painless, that he could do it into. You did this motion. Oh, like he would snip a nerve and it made it a painless procedure. Oh, my God. Yeah, so he told me this story once where it was 5 p.m. on a Friday, and this white woman comes in in a fur coat with her 15-year-old daughter, and she was like, my husband is out of town. I need this today.

And he was like, oh, I'm closed. And she's like, well, people told me that I need to come to you. And he's like, but I'm closed. And he said she pulled out a $1,000 bill, and he'd never seen a $1,000 bill before. And this was like 1979. Wow. And he's like, open up room two. Like the 5 p.m. abortion on a Friday.

If someone showed me a $1,000 bill, I think I'd be skeptical that it was real. I mean, I would definitely be Googling like, is this a real thing? Yeah. Back in the 70s, you know, I feel like people were very trusting of things, you know, like probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't have Google technology to like make a fake bill in there. Who has that? Who's on the $1,000 bill? Dude, I don't know, like probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't have Google. Technology to like make a fake bill in there. Who has that? Who's on the $1,000 bill?

Dude, I don't know, me? Harriet Tubman? That'd be funny if that was the Harriet Tubman one. They're like, we'll put her on the $1,000 bill. I feel stupid. I didn't know there was a $1,000 bill. Most people don't. I thought, I know there was a 500.

I doubt they print them anymore. All right, guess. Are we thinking it's a president? It's a president, I know there was a 500. I doubt they print them anymore. All right, guess. Are we thinking it's a president? It's a president. I think it's a president. Or it could be like a Supreme Court justice or some shit. Let's see. It's a president.

It is Roosevelt. Wait, no. Roosevelt's on something more important. It's, it's. Guess, Russell. You got anything? I'm going to pretend. I'm not even going to pretend to have any idea.

It's Ford. It's Gerald Ford. Gerald. Wait? So you got anything? I'm going to pretend. I'm not even going to pretend to have any idea. It's Ford. It's Gerald Ford. Gerald. Wait. Okay. You're one of us. It's Gerald Ford. That's my guess.

No, wait, hold up. Okay. There's fake ones here. Just Google the thing. Yeah. I know what I'm doing. I know how to Google the thing. All right.

Let's see who can be quicker. Oh my God. Oh my God. Okay. This is so. All right, let's see. Who can be quicker? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Okay. This is so funny. This is the really thousand. No, there is a thousand dollar bill. The question is who's on it.

Unless your dad got scammed and we're finding out now. Listen. Okay, here it is. Here it is. Okay, I see it. It is Cleveland. Grover Cleveland. Grover Cleveland.

What up, Grover? That's the a thousand. And then there is a 500-1-2. Oh, my God. There was a 10,000 and a 100,000 in circulation. Who is a 100,000? After the last printing of those denominations in 1945, the Treasury Department and the Fed discontinued them in 1969.

That's literally for narcos. Wow. That's the only person that's poor. There's still still legal legitimate tender but are limited in circulation except for the $100,000 bill which is only ever used in fiscal channels yeah yeah for

illegal shit yeah McKinley is the $500 Jefferson's the $200 the $200? the $2 the $2 bill oh you can get those though you know but I don't know why whenever I get one I'm like can I save it The $200? The $2 bill. Oh, you can get those, though. But I don't know why whenever I get one, I'm like, can I save it? Yeah, I never spend it.

I have $6 just sitting there. He didn't spend that. He framed it. He framed it? $5,000. Oh, my God. I would have spent it. You said he was a deadbeat dad. What do you mean when you say that?

What's your definition? He didn't let me call him dad or acknowledge me as his child. But I knew him because my mother was his nurse, so I would hang out with my siblings. I would go to their house. Do you have multiple siblings with your mom? No, I'm her only

child. Oh, okay. Did he have another family? A whole family? And that was his real family? His real family, yeah. Okay, so he had his family. Your mom was a nurse. Yes. Sorry, I have so many questions.

No, but she was his nurse. Yes. Did he understand the power dynamic? Might not be fully fair. I mean, 1981. That's what we were discussing women's rights back back then i just wonder like was that common in hospitals that doctors were always fucking the nurses are you kidding the black doctor you know how much pussy is being thrown at a black doctor in the 70s yeah he was fucking everybody i got mad siblings and when when

your mom got pregnant yeah did she ever i mean you can't not have the thought you work at the clinic where all the abortions are happening oh no she said she was on her way to get the abortion and then she started hemorrhaging and she was like oh i think i want to keep this baby she told me that wait the hemorrhaging made her want to keep the baby what does that mean hemorrhaging just to blood yeah and that i don't understand the logic behind that it feels like a different thought be like oh oh and when she thought she could lose it naturally she was like oh i want to keep you and she had an abortion before me oh i see yeah with your dad like no i think with someone else yeah did do you know if your dad at the time was like, you're keeping it?

Oh, he told me. He was like, I told your mother I have an abortion. What do you want from me? Oh! Da-da-da-da! Stand-up comedian! Oh, my God! Villain origin story.

So he had this family. Yeah. Did they know about you and your mom? Absolutely. They knew. I would spend time with them. They knew. You spent time with them? Mm-hmm. Did he have a wife? Yeah. She knew. Was she nice to mom? Absolutely. I would spend time with them. They knew. You spent time with them?

Mm-hmm. Did he have a wife? Yeah. She knew. Was she nice to you? Yeah, she was great to this day. Wow. Interesting.

Interesting. Yeah. So she was, was she friendly with your mom? Yeah, but she didn't find out until I was 15, because she was having an argument with her sister. And so she found out that I was really his daughter. And she was like, I am so sorry. And then was like, we're changing everything.

I'm putting you in the will and all this type of stuff. Like she was basically in denial for 15 years. And then it was put in her face. But that's, do you like her? Do you admire her for doing that? Well, I can understand that perspective from a woman because it's like, well, all we were taught is that you get married. She actually was a doctor herself.

Really? She's done a lot for her own life, but it's also still, you know, you're a woman in the 70s. You've got to get married. A woman black doctor in the 70s? I mean, that's, yeah. Wow. Yeah. And so is she still alive?

Yeah. You're in good terms with her. She didn't like resent you. You could see a world where someone doesn't like. I don't think it was malicious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's already in a cheating ass husband relationship. I felt sorry enough for that.

How did your relationship with your dad evolve over time? Oh, it was terrible. He just couldn't, you know, you disassociate and you compartmentalize enough to where you get to your old age and you're like oh you're my daughter now and i'm like you never acknowledged me as a kid he's like sure i did and i'm like no you didn't so he was like a gaslighter until the end yeah did you know he was your dad from the beginning your memories yeah but but you were hanging out with this other woman were you told not to tell her oh i wasn't told anything so when i finally like told my sister and brother i was like i'm your sister

they were like no you're not and i was like but i am and my brother goes and asked my dad he was like she says she's my sister and he was like no she's not like in my face so other other villain yes this is all and then the day where he said i told your mom to have an abortion was that like a big fight like was there ever like you going like hey fuck you oh so the fight was it's my sister's graduation from college we all fly to florida for it um i'm by myself my mom i'm so i'm with them and they're going around the room and they're like everybody says something great about you know my sister and so we get to him I'm standing right across from him in this big circle and he's like you know I'm so proud of you you're my daughter you're great and he's like and you know Ernie is my brother he's like you're next and you guys are

my kids you guys are so great and I love you guys so much and you're so great and I'm just standing there like this and then just like the single little tear starts to go so I I kind of step out of the room and like run to the bathroom sobbing and then he comes in and says i told your mother to have an abortion what do you want from me and i was like i'm already crying oh my god so his and actually at that moment i was like sobbing and then his wife she's like stroking me on the head she was like god don't like ugly so he's gonna get his like she said that to me so she was and this was after she knew yeah yeah okay i was like 18 oh my god i'm sorry you're crying now sorry oh no i'm just emotional yeah i uh wasn't expected to be talking about this no it's no it's uh yeah yeah it's just so and and so did your father pass away yeah he died right after

i did seth meyer so he got to see me do television and is that when he was like okay you're my daughter you got a late night credit of course sure on facebook he's like my child look at my daughter she's so great thanks bud holy shit was it when when he died did you did you feel anything oh i mean it's it's so many emotions and so luckily i've been in therapy and my therapist was like you're allowed to be every like angry sad uh regretful you know guilt you know all the all the things you're allowed to be she was like we just need to process those emotions. But what did happen was I did get to have a conversation with him about it. Um, NPR was about to do a story on us. Um, and I interviewed him in, in about, you know, my childhood and that the whole entire interview, he was denying

that I was telling the truth. And the producer was like texting me while I'm interviewing him. She's like, stay strong. I'm so sorry you're going through this. And then afterwards, she's like, there's no redeemable quality in your father. We can't even air this because he's such a terrible person. Oh, my God. But I got to have the closure enough for that, like holding his feet to the fire, looking him in his face and being like, dude. like holding his feet to the fire,

looking him in his face and being like, dude, you know, but realizing he wasn't a capable, you know, person, which had a very high IQ, but no EQ as my mother would say. Sure.

Yeah. It's just fascinating to think. I just wonder what it was, whether he felt shame about cheating or he just like, couldn't, couldn't figure out a way to emotionally understand he wasn't technically cheating because while my mother was pregnant his uh girlfriend was pregnant and he went and got married so my whole life i thought they had been married they he they got

married while they were both pregnant oh my god my mom found out at the hospital from other nurses they were like dr garrett got married this weekend and she's pregnant. She's like, what's the goss ladies? They're like in the nurse's station. I feel like we had another guest on here, similar story about the dad denying it all the way to the end. And I think it feels like there's just a certain point where it's almost impossible for them to be like, because you're like, the real truth of it, to accept that is such an undertaking. And if they're not willing to do that, they can convince themselves that, no, that's not what happened.

I didn't ignore you for decades. You know what I mean? Yeah, they have to acknowledge. Otherwise, it's a huge undertaking that they're just unwilling to do. And it's easier to just say, no, that's not the truth. My father made me understand Trump. Yeah. And why he's constantly lying.

Yeah. Because if you admit the terrible person you are. Yeah. You should leave the planet. Yeah. And it's not like an isolated incident. It's not like a thing. It's a commitment. It's a commitment for decades to be like,

to shut out someone and their experience in their life. It would be funny if your dad came back to you and said, Joelle, I've accepted Jesus Christ into my heart. Absolutely. He was a science man. Yeah.

Wow. I always, there's always like a fan, I think about that scene in There Will Be Blood. You've seen that movie, Russell, right? Have you ever seen There Will Be Blood? And Dana Day-Lewis, remember the preacher is like forcing him to be religious and he goes like, I've abandoned my child. I've abandoned

and it's always like could you hold someone's foot to the fire that they like that they break inside but also in that moment he's just doing it so he can get that fucking money but it's a mix where he is doing it just to get his money but I think he also is like he's having to like put himself down there to do

it but it's like yeah yeah it's a mix two things can be true that's so true yes well thank you for sharing that with us oh my gosh do it but it's like yeah yeah it's a mix two things can be true that's so true yes um yay well thank you for sharing that with us oh my gosh hi everyone uh solidarity anybody with some deadbeat dads out there um oh there was one more story i did want to tell i i did a i did a hosting seminar recently it's on asquire. Paid. Paid. Yeah. That's why.

And I hope this doesn't come up if I was cruel to the person. So people were asking questions and some guy goes, you know, I have a joke. New comic. New comic. I have a joke

and it really works with my friends but it never works on stage. Oh, Jesus Christ. And I was like, but it never works on stage. Oh, Jesus Christ. And I was like, tell it. And everyone is going like, yeah, tell it, tell it, come up. Oh, no. Exactly. The moment he stood up, I said, nope.

You knew. It's racist. It's a racist joke. The moment he came up, the moment he came up, I was like, it all clicked. Your friends laugh. People don't. He stood up, and you could see he was wearing a, the moment he came up, I was like, it all clicked. Your friends laugh. People don't. He stood up and you could see he was wearing a Make America Great Again shirt.

And you're like, oh, no, no. He's wearing the Joe Rogan experience. He wasn't white, but he wasn't black. Okay. Okay. That says a lot. I don't want to take swings. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll do it for you. I think he was Indian. Okay. But he goes up and, and the joke, uh, it was basically, it's, it said,

I don't know the moment he stood up. I was like, fuck, what have I done? So he goes, the New York times said that black taxpayers are audited. I'm already more than you're like, you're like a board.

I was like, Oh no. You're like, you're like black. I was like oh no Black Never mind never mind Never mind never mind Sir take a seat Okay I'm sorry start again

And also you gotta add on to this Everyone in the room Wants this to go well The whole audience is like Look at this kid he got up there Okay the New York Times says That black taxpayers are more likely to be audited, which was surprising. I didn't know black people paid their taxes. And then he said, just kidding.

The New York Times doesn't interview black people. And then it got a real like oh like like they they really wanted it to go well but they couldn't they couldn't say this was okay first of all you talk to your friends like that well that was well immediately i stood up i said stand up full stand up set for your friends i said i said you know sir that is my friend russell's joke okay all right and okay and no i i like i tried i tried to to break down why like joke wise structurally it didn't fully make sense it relied on even like stereotypes i don't even think are quite all right no one like a thing about yeah and and and then the third thing i said, jokes aside. Okay. So I'm just watching.

So I've, my, uh, I work with Rose, the drag queen, uh, in Titanic. So I've been watching his season of RuPaul's drag race.

Which season? Uh, season 13. Oh, wait. So Rose, Rose, Rose,

the drag queen. Rose, the Rose. So you did say Roseanne. It would be funny for a full Roseanne? Roseanne. Roseanne! Yeah, yeah. You did say Roseanne. It would be funny for a full Roseanne drag queen. So I work with Roseanne a lot. Oh, my God. Roseanne's in it?

This is Roseanne's dream? Yes, yes. Oh, my God. Roseanne's amazing. So we've gotten friendly. And so I've never seen Drag Race. So I was like, I'm going to watch his season. But they have a roast episode.

I just watched it. And, okay, that roast episode was roast episode. I just watched it. And okay, that roast episode was so stressful. I just watched it today. It's so stressful because this one drag queen does not get roasts. And in the coaching, Utica, they're so mean. So mean. Like being like, sorry, I thought you spoke whale to like a fat person. Just straight fat, mean.

Just fat, like doubling down on the fat thing. But like just so mean. And she's this skinny because it's big. And like keeps being like, they keep being like, okay, it's mean. They're trying to coach him to be like, it's too mean. Like try this. And then he really doubles down on being meaner and like and it's not funny at all and they put the crickets oh oh so so they do it

they do it live they do it yeah the coaching the coaching was more stressful to me than the than yeah yeah the actual roast but um the actual roast kept the jokes, didn't listen to their notes, kept the fat jokes, and is really uncomfortable. So why it was more stressful for me is because we're also in pandemic mode, so they didn't have an audience.

Oh, yeah. So he is performing for the judges panel, the other two queens he's roasting, and the other queens he's competing against. And the comedian Lonnie... Lonnie Love. Lonnie Love. Yeah, so it's so awkward

because even if there was maybe a crowd, maybe he could have got a couple laughs from a crowd, but it was still like, so it was not many people in the room. No. So it was extra quiet for real. That's brutal.

But that's a really hard thing. If you're not already like, you know, cause there was a few people that didn't do well. It's just a very specific skill. And, um, holy shit.

When the people with the slight thing, like you could even have someone do something and with a tone of voice and the thing, it just like reads as so mean from someone. And so funny from someone else. Part of it's just that the joke's not... Calling someone a whale is trying to speak whale. That one's going to be a hard one to sell.

Oh, but Anish said something really mean to Lottie and she was the only one who laughed. Yeah, no. Well, she goes, bitch, I'm... She's like, bitch, you're the only one who laughed. She goes, bitch, you're the one bombing. Because it was like Lottie cackled at him. We made fun of her not doing, being

used to the crowd size or something from her show. And she was like, bitch, you're the one bombing up there. And everyone really laughed at that. It was bad. There's a roast out there. I don't know who it is, but I know Jamie Foxx is on the panel.

This video for me, because I always put myself in the loser's position. Me too. And so there's like a comic up there and he's trying to do a roast. And Jamie Foxx, who is like brutally funny in a way that's not fair given that like you know he's a highly acclaimed actor now he's so funny yeah and so he goes to his mic and starts

playing this guy's subconscious like oh that joke didn't do very well i guess i'm gonna have to try it's relentless it it it destroys it there's no recovery from it there's no way to get back from it yeah and and he does it the whole it was clear jamie foxx must not like this guy i i just think jamie's an asshole you think he's an asshole yeah i think he's just a jerk because it was so funny but so cruel yeah it was so cruel uh it was emmett emmett smith the roast of emmettett Smith oh okay so it's a bunch of black people on the panel and there's comics who make jokes about how black people don't necessarily write jokes so

it's like you know when we roast them we're like look at your shirt look at your shoes but a white person is like you had a deadbeat dad who said he wanted to abort you like that's how white people roast and so you can tell Doug Doug had like written, had some

prepared written shit and Jamie did not let him get a word in edgewise and honestly I'm like, Doug talks about it in interviews of like how his career has struggled since then because that went so viral and I just remember that video

is the reason I will never do a roast. I will never do a roast because of that video. If you see this video, it is the scariest thing. Like from a comics perspective, that is the scariest possible situation. I'd rather be at a Klan rally. I think the only solution is you got to laugh with it. Like what makes it worse is he really tries to like get back on the horse. But like, you know, it looks like he's going to cry.

He's trying to get back on the horse. And there's no. There's nothing. There's nothing. And then there's like this other comic who's like running around laughing, like in circles. That's also not happening on a white rose you know frank sinatra's not getting up like frank sinatra did you said that shit nigga no that's oh my god someone running around you and monique was trying to help him she was trying to be like yeah baby like she was trying to be

nice oh she she tried to subvert it with her mind she tried to help that is a nice that is a nice gesture yeah yeah yeah and i was just like jamie because jamie had one but he's doubling and tripling and quadrupling down and it's so funny but it's the saddest thing i didn't think that was funny at all just like from the comics perspective i it's the most cringe worthy yeah i mean there's a thing i know with a couple comics where they'll kill and they're funny but i'm like you're you're not you're being a mean you're mean but to to be able to be good at roasting i think you have to be mean the people who are the best at it yeah but they're but i think they're those kind of roast roast battles is thing. But this is like a roast we should have fun. Yeah.

I don't know. Those guys or those people that are really into roasting, I think ultimately they're just a little mean. They're mean. The ones that are so good at it. If you're good at roasting, you're mean. Yeah. You have to be. Yeah.

There's just people where I go, I'm like, oh, you're being a – you're hogging the stage. I don't know. I did a show recently, and it was like a New York comedy club, and it was like a weird kind of competition show that I was hosting. Yeah. And the comic, who I know well, came up after my rough host set. It was rough audience. Yeah. And joked about, well, that one didn't work really well to me on stage.

And I was just like, are you serious right now? What are you doing right now? Was he black? So in black rooms? Oh yeah. Man listen. I've been roasted before by the host after bombing where I had to sit

there and I was like sitting right in the center and he was like this motherfucker should fucking kill herself. That fucking terrible set fuck this stupid bitch she thinks she's fucking funny crowd laaah laaah feet everything she should kill herself

I mean he was so and I started crying I was new in comedy I was maybe like three or four years tell us about your dad yeah basically and dude it was so crazy that comic has since died. And I remember when he died, I was like, not sad for that. I always tell people, Whitney Chanel Clark, do you know her?

Yeah. She did a show. It was like a karaoke. You did a sad thing. You did karaoke. And this comic went up. This white comic went up. And when he went down, Whitney came up and said, guys, I am for that i'm so sorry i made you guys see that i'm i'll never book him

again and this was like a comic from queens who was not used to this at all and then the dj played and i was but there's such a mix i gotta, like, because I worked at LOL for a long time. Yeah. And I think any talent I have, a big factor is that I worked with some mean black comics. Oh, yeah. For a couple of years. Yeah. And it made me go when I need to kill.

I know what Ken Boyd. Have you met Ken Boyd? Yeah. I mean, Ken Boyd, he would boo me from the back of the room. I worked at LOL a long time. Did you really? Oh, wow. Absolutely. Oh, that's so cool.

There's all these different eras of people who work there and I worked there like towards the end of what it was. And I mean, you're talking to crowds at 2, 3 in the morning and it's like they're foreigners. crowds at two, three in the morning. And it's like, they're,

they're foreigners. They don't know what's going on. That was a, but it made me so, it gave me so, I, I learned a lot from Ken Boyd. Absolutely.

I mean, he, he killed and now he's like doing cruises. I haven't seen him in so long. And I had to block him on Instagram because I posted a picture and he said, wow, you're getting fat. And I,

and I said, like, you're getting fat. And I said, you know what? I cannot have that in my life. I don't want that thought in my head. Your biggest teacher though. My guru. He was brutal because you could hate him

and he could be an asshole, but he was so charming that he would be laughing. be laughing oh man yeah real town i'd love to have him on someday um uh all right let me see uh oh oh the one one last thing i did i did want to bring up was uh uh your your gun yes do you have a gun on you right now? No. Do you see there was an LOL comic who shot someone on the subway? Someone I worked with a bunch. I forgot his name. You worked with him?

Yeah, like a bunch. I heard the story about it. I didn't know. He was on the subway and he shot someone. This was like a month ago, I think. What? Why? Is he in prison? Because the audience member wasn't laughing hard enough.

Okay, shut up. No, why did they really shoot someone? No, I mean, just some kind of altercation. You don't have the full story. I'll put it up. But like, I mean, we work together a lot. Shut up. Do I know this person?

LOL comedy. We don't have to say his name. I mean, it's literally in the news. I mean, we're going to say his name. It's Googleable. Yeah, I guess I won't say his name because I do know him. We work together a lot. He did shoot someone.

You did shoot someone. Were you hanging out? There was a fight on Manhattan Subway. A comedian who was slated to take the stage Saturday night in Times Square. It's very funny to call LOL a stage at this point. It's kind of good. The alleged crime clown.

This is the New York Post. The alleged crime clown, his name, 30, who performs under the name, is on the bill at LOL Comedy Lounge at West 46th Street. Oh, wow. No, I don't know him. You've seen him before? I don't know him. He was like a later edition LOL. Was he funny? Where's the name? Yeah. I mean, I don't know him. You've seen him before? I don't know him. He was like a later edition LOL.

Was he funny? Where's the name? Yeah. I mean, you don't know him. Uh-oh. This isn't someone like... No, I'm looking up to see if you follow him. Oh.

He was with a female companion. They were fighting with the victim just after 1 a.m., so probably came off a bad set. Oh, for sure. And as the train pulled into Canal Street and Broadway, the comic allegedly opened fire, firing off two rounds. The victim was taken to the hospital, and they're fine. In his defense, I have wanted to shoot people

during and after LOL sets. I've gotten scared twice recently where an audience member left after some gun jokes. And in my head, I'm like, they're going to come back and shoot me. Yeah. They're going to shoot me. Yeah. It's a hard time to be a comedian guys

uh you have a gun uh yes what kind of gun uh smith and wesson m&p shield with a laser sight with a laser sight do you have it you're are you allowed to have a gun in new york city before i ask the question i'm going to ask. No. Okay. So you left this gun back in Atlanta. I left this gun in Georgia. Uh-huh.

And when did you buy it and why did you buy it? I bought it on election day 2020. And I bought it because of election day 2020. Wow. Yeah. Was the store, was it crowded? Oh, it was crowded with black people and Asians in Georgia. Oh my God.

You're serious? That day there was like an influx? Absolutely. That year, black women were like, the rise in gun sales was in black women that year. But yeah, it was black people and Asian in, I think I was in Tucker, Georgia. God, the NRA just can't lose, man.

They just win every goddamn time somehow. Absolutely, because I was trying to find a gun store that was not a Trump-supporting store in Georgia. Good luck. Wait, you were looking for the liberal gun store? Liberal gun store. Where's the gun store with the I'm with her sticker

in the front? So fucking funny. Every gun store with the I'm with her sticker in the front so fucking funny every gun store I've ever seen has a picture of Hillary Clinton as a target let alone no they had

the Hillary Clinton shoot the range things you want to say it's like Black Lives Matter and that's why we're having a sale if you're black

20% off our Smith & Wesson so it was a Trump head sign and this dude I tell you the guy selling me and my cousin

the gun was this hood dude from Brooklyn. And he was like, yeah, so this is the one I like to do. You know, sometimes you can hold this straight up, but you can also put it on the side. And then he's just like, the guy in the back like, yeah, so this my gun. And they're like in the gun store with their guns on them. I was like, how many guns you own? He was like, about 14, like that type of shit. And we bought the gun from this hood

Brooklyn dude who clearly works with racist Trump supporters but he was just like I like guns so and I can legally have them down here you know I never figured out the joke but I went to a gun show and I have this gun show bit yeah and like it was it was more diverse than I would have thought

for this Florida gun show and I was trying to come up with a thing of like, in a way they love guns so much. It, it overrides the racism. It was like this real melting pot of people who just love guns. Yeah. I,

did you have any, I would never buy a gun. I think, I think in my head, I'm like, I'm against people having guns writ large. For sure. Me too.

And do you see any point in your life where you would sell the gun away or throw it away? Or do you feel good that you have it? It felt good to have it. I understand the feeling of having it in the house. Because it just makes you feel like if someone kicks in the door which has happened to me before i grew up uh during crack in the 80s and 90s in new jersey and our house got broken into a lot i was in the house alone and like aggressively like door kicked open yeah yeah like a bunch of different times our house got broken into um so i had that feeling of

being unsafe from child yeah so the feeling of having a gun in the house actually does make you feel a little safer when you look back on those moments were you ever in the house when someone broke in alone yeah in your head are you like would it have been better would it have weighed on you more if someone broke in and you killed a person well i was a kid a kid. Sure. But now, I mean, you're not going to know until you know. Sure. But for me, if it's me or you,

I'm an issue. But in my mind, if they didn't have a gun, it's just hard for me to imagine. I mean, it's just I've never done it. I don't know how I'd react. There's a part of me that I'm like, I could see myself being frozen and paralyzed. And not even being able to shoot them in the leg or being scared that i'll miss it'll ricochet oh yeah i've done i terrifying i did i did a shooting range

when i was in houston and like of course i mean it's it's terrifying i'm like i'm shaking and i i just go to the gun range so i can get used to holding it, you know, so I'm not nervous to hold it and shoot it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. How, did you train a lot with it? Are you a good shot? Five times, yeah, I'm a good shot. I was told by white men.

Wow. I was told by southern white men that I'm a good shot. Did they tell you a little bit scared? Were they like, you're a really good shot. I was like, give me the white man one. Give me the white. Well, that's what was amazing with the horrible shooting, obviously, where it was a trans man. And now they're like, these gun people all of a sudden are like, well, if you're taking testosterone, you shouldn't be able to have a gun.

And you're like, there's no consistency in your philosophy. And it doesn't matter. It's more that. We all know there's no consistency in a lot of people's philosophies. But it's the fact that it doesn't matter at all. You can totally just say a completely opposite thing. Because I thought, wasn't that a thing with guns rights? I don't know if I'm getting the history right. But with the Black Panthers where there was a degree of like, you know what, let's get some regulations out there.

Oh, because a bunch of Black Panthers, it was an open carry in California. So a bunch of Black Panthers showed up to the Capitol building with guns and they were like, oh no, we didn't mean y'all. We just met us you know so i'm a big proponent of every black person that can own a gun owning a gun and also registering for a gun if you can because that's how we will get gun control that's what so i i agree with that i did i did uh earthquake has a show on serious xm it's just me and other black comics and it got to guns and normally in a gun conversation i'd be like i don't think people should have guns. But in that moment, they were all talking about their guns. And I thought like, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Get guns. Get guns. Sure. That's a good point. Get guns. Would you ever own a gun?

No, I don't think so. I've been shooting before. I did skeet shooting and stuff when I lived in Texas. Do you have a good aim? I was okay. I did skeet shooting and stuff when I lived in Texas. Do you have a good aim? I was okay. I was okay. I understood when I did it. This is why people like them.

There's a thing. You're shooting and you're at a range and it's fun. But no, I don't think so. I think it would be very stressful to me just knowing it's- All I'd be thinking about is accidentally. My brain, if Tova had a gun, forget about it. Yeah.

Forget about it. Oh my God, yeah, the night terrors. The night terrors. The night terrors. The night terrors leaving the room and like, yeah. That's terrifying. I can see her shooting me for sure. Where's my glasses?

I'm like, they're on the bed stand. They're on the bed stand. Please, please. This is a night terror. No, yeah, no, they shouldn't be legal, but they also, in New York especially, in the tri-state, not the tri-state, in the

five boroughs, it's very, very hard to get a gun. Oh, for sure. I wonder if there's, I feel like there should be a movement of sorts of like, we're anti-guns, but we're going to buy guns in the meantime. We're ready to put them away, but we're going to buy them in the meantime.

It's like the idea of being anti-guns, but still buying a gun, because that might be the most effective way to like fix the system. Yeah. I mean, especially for people of color. Let's go on to our next segment. This has got to stop.

This has got to stop. This is where we say something in the world That needs to end Big, small, personal, private Public People seem to like these By the way, real quick, plug for the Patreon If you like This Has Got to Stop We've got plenty more extra bonus episodes

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We all should do this. It's got to stop. You got this? It's got to stop? You go first. Okay, let me, wait, I have this little, do you have a this got to stop?

I don't. That's fine. You can totally think of one. Here's what I would say. Oh, this has got to stop. Scottie Pippen's wife or ex-wife said that Scottie Pippen was so into sex, they were having sex four times a day. I am sick of this shit.

I'm sick of these insane numbers. They're lying. Oh, of course they're lying. It's insane. But the thing is that I remember when I was a teenager and believing that shit. Yeah. Four times. It's not even worth entertaining.

How would you get anything done? Yeah. How would you get anything done? How would you get anything done? Four times a day. Get out of bed. How often are you showering? How often are you showering?

There's just no way. And also like, I could, I still, four times a day, I don't believe, I could see maybe like, maybe a hand job here, sex over here, four full sessions of sex. You know, where do you find 20 minutes every

single day? 20 minutes? God damn. Before I add it up. But I remember, I remember, I feel like, I feel like Nicki Minaj at some point being like six times a day. And I'm like, get out of here. Shut up. Especially pop stars. Pop stars, I'm like, you're a workaholic.

You're a workaholic. You're working every second of the day. You're not doing this. Shut up. Why do people lie like up why do you why do people lie like that do you think did you see cardi's response no she was so funny she was like look if your man is fucking you four times a day either a you want perks or b trying to convince himself he like pussy i like that the flip wow sex with women that much you must be gay you do a great Cardi B do your Cardi B

so yeah I don't I don't know why they do it because the only people believing them are like 15 year old boys being like whoa it feels so juvenile feels like high school it feels like very like you just started having like for Scottie Pippen's like 60

I'm like it's like a sad like why? Well she was saying and it was like who is this for? Who is this live for? Who is this live for? I don't understand Like because the other adults in the room were like no you're not. Like any real adult would go. Are you sitting on an ice pack ma'am? Like calm like what's going on

What kind of basketball player could he have been if he took a little if he did three times a day? He'd be Michael Jordan. Are you freaking kidding me? Yeah, no, that's absolutely ridiculous. And who wants it? I don't want that.

It's a lot of work. It disrupts the day. There's no way to get anything done. Every day is not feasible. A couple times a week in a loving relationship, maybe. So, yeah, I want the interviewer to be like logistically

how how what are we talking about quickies what are we talking about yeah yeah yeah and what is sex to you like I want to know

what a full sexual experience I think that you'd get them down they'd be like well kisses can be sex I'd be like I knew it I fucking knew it

I knew it we talked about it no that don't count bitch we alluded to it. Shut up. Unless they're telling the truth and we just live passionless lives. That's not passion. No, that's addiction.

That's addiction. But like, not, yeah. My, this guy stopped. So I have, there's a few people that I, I don't want to say their names, but I run into them occasionally. They're not friends. They're kind of tertiary. Maybe they live in my neighborhood type kind of things. Every time I see them, they ask me how long the show is running for.

And I have to keep telling them. And then they'll be like, I want to come. And I'm like, I can't do this conversation. Leave me alone. I can't. You either got to come or we're ignoring each other when we run into each other because I can't keep doing this for you. And you keep delaying when you're going to come. And the thing is, they're not a friend.

It's not someone that I need to come. It's not like I'm expecting them to come. It's just the only thing that they could talk to me about. They're maybe not that confident in talking in there in talking about anything else. And so it's something that they can connect with me on. So, but I'm like, you either got to come to this fucking show or you got to like ignore me when

you see me. Cause I do not want to do this conversation again. Do you think you're prepared to say it closed before it closed? You should say what show? Yeah. Next time. Just pretend we've never had the cover. I'm like, it closed you should say what show yeah next time just pretend we've never had the cover

like what I'm not on a show what are you talking about because that's the only way out of it they'll do it for the rest of this run I've gotten so

I can they're not listening to this it's a neighbor or say it's running forever say you know what I've decided I'm going to stay in it

for the next 10 years so So anytime you're ready. Yeah. So I've just, I've gotten so I can avoid running into trying to, you know, but still happens you run into them. So you hear that people who want to see Russell's show? No, you always turn these things. I'm saying it like

listen, I'm not, I'm truly not talking about a friend. Please, stand up comedian. I understand every time, every time. When when are you performing i got somebody right now who's like i need a weekend show like is responding to one of my flyers like where is this and i need a weekend show and i'm like girl i just i can't and i told you let me know when you want to come out let me know i will probably have a show yeah just let me know why don't you tell I told you, let me know when you want to come out. Let me know. I will probably have a show. Yeah. Just let me know.

Why don't you tell me when you're performing? I'm not doing that. No. I'm not sending you my seller. People ask me that. Oh, I will send them the text I got. I will screenshot the text I saw and send it to them. Now what?

When are you coming? Yeah. Oh, you're not? Are you? I'm not copy pasting everything. I'll give them Esty's number. I say, you call her. You call her.

You tell her to give me the spot. I'll say yes. It's like the equivalent of running into someone in New York and you're just like, oh, we should meet up. It's like that thing. They know you're doing stuff. Yeah. And so they can just give you a blanket thing.

But then that becomes their whole relationship with you. Yeah. It's just being like, I want to come. I want to see a show. And you're like, but you can. There's so many opportunities for you. I'm performing. I do this professionally. We don't have to do this dance. Just either come or

just get out of my fucking life. I do not like that energy of a person. Because I literally, I'm about to get tickets for tomorrow to go. Because I'm like, I actually want to go. Go to the show tomorrow. I want to go tomorrow with show tomorrow with Tova.

Yeah, Tova. Because you said Tuesdays you need a laugher. Be careful what you ask for. I love it's a dead audience and then one person like, Russell! You said there's a black person in the audience tonight. She's front and center. You know, that's full of it.

Do you ever just got to stop? Yeah. I mean, I have a couple things that i could say but what was i just thinking about because i got so engaged with what you were saying you could edit all of my rambling out right probably not though probably not though he loves the edit button let me think okay this has got to stop oh um people pretending that they love being parents here's the thing um it's okay to not to not be happy i've been following regretful parents on reddit oh that's a fantastic reddit thread and and those parents are so happy to have that community to be able to complain about their kids and i just feel like more people need to be honest about it.

Because so many people are becoming parents against their actual intent of life. And it's like, it's okay to not want to be a parent. I'm on Team No Kids. And it's okay to be on Team No Kids. And if you're on the fence, don't do it. Because you're becoming a regretful parent. So everyone's trying to pretend like they're all happy. Y'all ain't all happy.

And that's okay. But let the next generation know. Because they always say, too, they're always like, you know, it changed my whole life. I couldn't imagine my blah, blah, blah. But you're like, of course it did. Of course it did. Of course it did. You added a whole different thing.

But, like, if you didn't do that, you could still have just as a fulfilling kind of thing. But there's no way to make it make sense if you... You can't have it without being a terrible person. Without being like, I had it. Don't like it. You know? Wanted to send it back. You can't.

You can't. Otherwise, it's fucked up. So that's the only option you have is to be like it completely changed my i'm fully fulfilled now a lot about and like i'm not saying they're not i think they feel that but i'm also saying there's no there's no way you could not have been you know yeah yeah it's it's it's you've you've passed the point of no return right there's no receipts you can't take the baby back no you can't so it's just this thing of like yeah it's not like because like if you tell your friend about like a relationship and you know it's it's kind of tough they might be like well you know if you want to

break up you know that might be wise but with a kid what can they say they'll be like well well in 18 years 16 more yeah yeah yeah maybe they'll leave maybe they'll leave the house you know i have leave the house. Maybe they'll leave the house. I have a stress. This is not a full, this has got to stop. But I have a friend with a kid. I think she listens. And I love this. It's more of my own thing.

But sometimes parents will send you a video of a moment with their kid that they had that was really special. And I always feel this pressure that I need to. For them, it's a life-changing moment. Their kid walks for the first time. Their kid does a cartwheel. And I feel like I have to really meet them because this is so important to them and they've shared it with me.

And sometimes I want to be like, thumbs up emoji. Just there's a degree of, I'm like, yeah, that's Or sometimes there's like, they'll send so many photos and so many videos and I'm like we could have gotten it editing. Yeah, we make a montage.

Let's make some creative choices of which ones we want to send to you. You know, this is a seven-minute video of them doing one thing. Let's wait until he gets the walking down a little better before I see the journey. Yeah, I sent back a clip of my special that's available on Peacock. That's my baby oh my god that's so funny that's so smart

this is my child that actually gave me money did you see this alright let's go on to our final segment you better count your blessing you better count your blessing. JL, do you have a blessing for us?

Absolutely. Yes. I am so blessed to be at a point in my life where I do not have children. I have disposable income and a refined palate. So I've been going dining at restaurants that are very fabulous and expensive. And last night I went to a place called the office of Mr. Moto, which is an Omakase.

You heard of it? Yes. Um, the reservations only open at 10 AM at the first of the month. And it's a short, there's like 10 seats in there and it's an Omakase sushi style restaurant. And then they have a speakeasy in the bottom. So I went last night and ended up talking to the couple that was sitting next to us, set up my friend on a blind date.

Like, I had a great time last night. We were in that place for like four hours. All right, if I'm planning a meal there and I'm paying and it's me and Tova, what should I be prepared to be putting down? You got a card that got miles on it? That has miles on it? Yeah. Okay, you're using that card.

Uh-huh. And you're going to spend a good seven. Wow. Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I did. I think the most expensive meal I've done so far,

and it was a gift from my stepfather, but then I don't think he paid me for it, so it was just me. It was a no-boo meal. Yes. And because we thought it was my stepfather, I think it was like $5.50, $6. So it was just me. It was a no-boo meal. Yes. And because we thought it was my stepfather, I think it was like

$5.50, $6. But it's two of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fun. Yeah. I mean, I've been to Eleven Madison Park. That's a fun one.

That's a good $400 per person type deal. I love Omakase, so I've been going to Omakase restaurants all over the city. Most expensive meal, you and Nicole?

We, uh... I mean, we could do some damage. Both eaters, drinkers. Probably like seven, eight or so. Like a nice thing. I remember a couple of years ago we did a thing that was definitely like six.

But I, yeah. When that tip reaches like 200, you're like, holy shit. Makes me feel fabulous. I was going to do related to food. I went, what day is it? Friday. I went Friday.

I went Friday night to our friend Max of Max and Jessica. He is a sommelier at Lords NYC, and he took care of us. I love that. He made sure we tried everything. He was getting us bubbles. He was bringing nice little sample wine things. It was just a great meal. I really recommend a new place, Lords NYC.

Should I take it over there? The food's English, so I take it over there? Yeah. The food's English. So I would look at like what it, like it's pretty, it's a very specific, I guess I hadn't had like nice English food before. Usually you have shitty like fish and chips. Yeah. Like, but it was like, it was like, it was really, really fucking good. Nice.

So. That does sound good. Thank you, Max. My blessing. really fucking good. Nice. So that does sound good. Thank you, Max. Um, my blessing, uh, not a lot of people know this. Russell's in a band and I got his band to send me some of his music.

Let's play it. I'm just kidding. Did you think I had it? I don't know what you were going to do. I would like Russell to send me the music that he's been working on for the last 10 years. And I would love to hear a song. It's my private life outside of you. There's no life outside of you.

Are you really at a band? Yeah. So I have two friends. We've been playing. We really started playing around right before the pandemic. And then the pandemic happened. So we still meet occasionally. But it's hard because i'm doing the show and they do stuff too and it's never none of us have this thing of like we're gonna be a band yeah does that make sense so but

we like playing music together and writing songs together so yes we have like eight to ten songs that we've written and kind of recorded demos of and at some point we'll probably do some live shows but it's so low-key i'm there that it's like you know i don't talk about a lot either because it's like it feels very it feels so different from any of the performance comedy or stage or you know it just feels like a whole different thing that good little secret thing it just feels it feels nice it feels like um i don't know. I don't have the connection. I'm not dependent on it to do well. Does that make sense? Sure, sure, sure. But it feels

very personal on some level. Well, I will see. We'll plug the live show. You'll have a bunch of Debbie Downsiders. It'll be great. I want to say I think Tova is setting me up. I think we're paying a good price to see anthony

jeselnik live on tour and for me that's a big one i'm a big anthony jeselnik fan so i think she's using some industry connects to get us some good tickets but the the other thing is tova related on saturday i got a call from tova yeah i pick up the phone and she's sobbing she's sobbing and she says you know i i i was walking down the stairs on the subway texting and i always talked to her about this i was texting i i and she can't even speak she can't even speak she's weeping so hard and i was like i put away my laptop i was i was away i was in louisville i was like i'm here baby what's wrong uh what can we do what can we do i can't get through to her can't get through to her and she goes april fools oh my and

she got me so fucking bad so fucking bad and like she you know she she's a performer and she she did it she did it a hundred percent she was crying the way that she cries. And I do tell her all the time about texting and going down the stairs. Because she can barely walk as it is. It's like someone with one leg putting on a roller blade. It's like full focus on one thing at a time. So I was not happy in the moment. I mean, my adrenaline was through the roof. Because I was like, I mean, it sounded like,

oh, am I going to have to fly home from Louisville right now? Like, this sounds really bad. But I respect it. It's important. See,

I would have put that under this has got to stop. April fools. I hate that. I'm so happy my boyfriend is not into that because we would break up. I don't like that shit at all

because I'm black in America. People be dying and if you're going to make me think somebody dead and it ain't nobody dead bitch, I will kill you. I got a life expectancy that short. Anyway, don't make my blood pressure grow up like that.

I think it's funny if Tova did a prank with all her clients where she called you and was like, you got SNL. Oh my God. No. God, no. God, no. That wouldn't work.

No. Or if she called and was like, I'm dropping you. No. To please tell Tova, don't ever do nothing like that to me. Or the other way, I'm keeping you as a client.

April Fools. That would be a good way to... Tell her, Joelle, does not like to be pranked. Just the white clients, Tova. Just the white ones. Just the white clients just the white straight male ones those are the only ones you deserve to prank alright this is coming out April

25th what do you want to plug oh I mean maybe something there will be fun things announced by then so until then just watch my special Lovejoy on Peacock and where can they find you online you can find me at Joyelle Nicole. And Russell, what would you like to plug?

Follow me on Instagram at Russell J. Daniels. How long is the show running for? You motherfucker. Tuesday. Come see Titanic at the Daryl Roth Theater. I will be at the mic drop in Chandler, Arizona April 28th, 29th and 30th. That sounds horrible. I perform in so

many cities that don't have an airport dedicated to that city. Then I'll be at Governor's May 5th and 6th and come on where's a one nighter where i get some of that sweet sweet money uh hilarity is may 26th and 27th we're going to ohio for a wedding one of tova's friends and uh i think you could not book a show yeah yeah i told him to get married around

the gig um so check that out hilarity is may is May 26th, 27th. And again, join the Patreon. You get to watch my new clean comedy special. That's not getting released anywhere else. Bonus episodes, live episodes, our episode with Joshua Henry. It's, it's, I love Joshua Henry.

You know Joshua Henry? Yes. Yes. Yes. And you're looking at your phone expectantly. No, I'm texting some of my next thing. I'm sorry.

Texting Joshua Henry? Texting my next appointment. Okay. This is The Downside. You're listening to The Downside. The Downside. With Gianmarco Ceresi.