The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi - #164 You’re Not Gonna Make Everyone Happy with Liza Treyger

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

Comedian Liza Treyger joins us to share the downsides of being born in the Soviet Union, moving to the US at three years old on religious asylum, being arrested three times in a year and a half, and the darkness behind hosting a true crime podcast. Gianmarco talks about being heckled by a child, and Russell shares what it was like to make his Broadway principal debut filling in for Josh Gad as Bud in Gutenberg! The Musical!  You can watch full video of this episode HERE! Join the Patreon for ad-free episodes, exclusive content, and MORE. Follow Liza on Instagram & TikTok See Liza in a city near you! https://linktr.ee/glittercheese Listen to Liza's podcast, That's Messed Up Follow The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram Get tickets to our live podcast recording in NYC with Ari Hershkowitz on November 13 here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/700527254877 Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, & YouTube Subscribe to Gianmarco Soresi's email & texting lists Check out Gianmarco Soresi's bi-monthly show in NYC Get tickets to see Gianmarco Soresi in a city near you Watch Gianmarco Soresi's special "Shelf Life" on Amazon Follow Russell Daniels on Twitter & Instagram E-mail the show at [e-mail] Produced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco Soresi Video edited by Dave Columbo Special Thanks Tovah Silbermann Original music by Douglas Goodhart Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Shop at Sephora today. Limitations apply. Must be a beauty insider. See terms at sephora.com for complete details. Welcome to The Downside. When did we say this episode's coming out? October 24th. This episode's coming out October 24th. You know that, though, because it's October 24th when you're listening to it. Bad intro. No.

This is Joe Marco Cerezi. I'm here with my co-host, Russell Daniels. Hi, Joe Marco. We're blessed to be joined by my producer, Paige Asachika. I've been saying it wrong. You really have. You say it real quick. Asachika. Is that Paige's mic? Is you're making

a noise? Okay, it's okay. It's okay. We'll fix it in post. It's just the headphones. You don't need headphones. It's not's okay. It's okay. Fuck. We'll fix it in post. It's just the headphones. You don't need headphones. No. It's not the headphones. It's not the headphones. I think it's mine. I hear it too, though.

No, no. We all hear it. Oh. Oh. It's this. It's this mic. Whose mic is that? I think it's this wire.

It's Paige's mic. I don't know. We need to talk. You don't need to talk. Oh, all right. There. Is it fine? Hello? Hello? Oh, now I can hear you. There we go. Go's Paige's mic. I don't know if you need to talk. You don't need to talk. Oh, all right. Is it fine? Hello? Oh, now I can hear you.

There we go. Go, go, go. We're keeping it all. This is the downside. This is the downside of running a studio out of an apartment. It's not convenient. It's not get rid of it. I should go somewhere.

You go somewhere for your podcast. No. You do it at home? I do it at home, and I don't even have a desk so it's like an ottoman and then I put a step stool on it and then I put my laptop on a step stool we're doing the same it's chaos

your podcast we're not doing the Wilbur anytime soon I'll tell you that right now we're doing Sesh Comedy Club and we're giving away free tickets so say our producer's name. Asachika. Fuck, okay. I've been saying Asachika forever.

Either one's fine. You corrected him or no? No. See, this is the thing that's happened to me before. I had a friend and forever it's Soren, Soren, Soren. And then after 10 years of friendship, he goes, you guys, you've been saying my name wrong. It's Serene. And it's like, well, fuck off. You're so... 10 years after 10 years of friendship he goes you guys you've been saying my name wrong it's Serene and it's like

well fuck off you're so 10 years 10 years how did you find out though that you were saying it wrong because I thought it was said differently but you've said it so confidently for so long that I was like oh it looks it looks must be different dumb and confident that's the perfect combo

I don't know we were testing mics at a live show and I I said, hey, this is Paige Asachika. I screamed. I said, oh, my God, no. You've been saying Asachika. Either way is fine, though. Either way is fine. I truly don't know the right pronunciation.

I think the bad part is, I think because I grew up watching so much anime, I'm like, oh, I know. I know how to pronounce all. That's not a racist thing. That's just I've seen a lot of Goku-san, Piccolo, Asachika. It's all the same. It's all the same. Okay. Well, we are here.

My name is Liza, but some people confidently think it is Liza, and they fuck with other people that know the right way, and everyone gets in their head. Well, I'm so glad you said that before I brought you onto the stage. Welcome, Lisa Frager. I knew. I knew. Thank you for being here. Yeah, I know people will bring me up on stage and be like, oh, good friend for years. Liza, get on up here. But, you know, I don't care. There's a comic. He still does comedy. He goes, when you bring me on stage, say I'm your really good friend. And what do you think his first line is? What do you think his opening line is? I don't know that guy. Yeah, yeah.

Give it up for who. What's his name? And I'm like, oh, so I'm the jackass in your joke. I'm the jackass. It's my least favorite thing. It's so funny. I usually, to be brought up on stage, I always say, give me a compliment. I want a compliment. That would stress me. Okay, let's go real quick. A lot of people don I usually, to be brought up on stage, I always say, give me a compliment. I want a compliment.

That would stress me. Okay, let's go real quick. A lot of people don't know how to do a compliment. What would you do? No, people get stressed, but all you have to do is funny, cool, amazing. But people get really, they don't know what to do. You ever get anything weird? Like, ended up being like an insult?

Nothing that I remember enough, so that's pretty good. That's good. Yeah, because I remember every slight, everything that doesn't, like So that's pretty good. That's good. Yeah. Because I remember every sleigh, everything that doesn't. Like I remember it all. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to not be so focused on the negative. But this is a perfect pod.

This is a perfect pod. I was going to say, well, put that goal away for a little bit. I am nervous to be on the pod too because I feel like I'm going to be so obvious with the things that I'm so annoyed with that it's going to be like a friend watching it online being like, well, this is clearly about me. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm glad your friends are at least listening.

That's good. They'll listen to the clip. You know, we'll post the clip. We'll tag them in it, too. They'll be like, what's this? Yeah. Well, before we get to you, I have some things to complain about. And then you have something cool that we'll go to.

So I did a Jewish event last week. And it was a men's Jewish organization. But it was all genders. How religious? Very. Okay. Very. I wasn't allowed.

It's hard with them because they don't know things. Like, they don't have Netflix. Sure. You know what I mean? Of course. You can say a reference that is so obvious to us, and they'll be like, that's not my canter. You know, like, they don't know.

And here's where the only rules. First they said, because they look me up online, and they're like, no pedophile jokes. And I guess there was a rabbi, part of the community, they're like, yeah, no pedophile jokes. And I guess, uh, there was a rabbi part of the community. They found out recently he was a pedophile. Yeah. So no,

no pedophile jokes, which made me go all my pedophile jokes about priests. And honestly, when I heard that, I was like, you know what? I need to write a joke about how rabbis can be pedophiles too. So that's what that,

but did the synagogue kick him out? Oh yeah. He's not there anymore. Okay. That's the difference. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't like, I was not there anymore. Okay, that's the difference. It wasn't like, so pedophiles over here, hello. Not father, you say rabbi, right?

I say rabbi, yeah. But you don't say, you just say like Rabbi Schwarzenberg. Yeah. Did you have to wear a kippah? No, so not that religious. They said no Holocaust jokes, partially because the previous year they had had a showcase lineup. And like as what happens, four comedians in a row mentioned the Holocaust.

We just can't. Can't help it. And then they said you can curse. And then like right before they said, actually, can you not curse? I was like, okay, okay, fine. So it's rough. It's ages zero to a thousand. How long?

45 to an hour. Probably the only time I've ever done the lower end of that time range. I was looking at the clock. And about five minutes in, hopefully this, you can hear that I'm not doing great, but I had a heckler. Again, a heckler I didn't know how to handle. Oh, did it?

Oh, please work. No. Son of a bitch. If this doesn't work, I'm going to scream. Nope. It's working. That's you. That's Russell.

That's a UCB sketch. We mentioned that in an episode. Okay. Fuck. Okay, I'm going to insert it after the thing. I'm just going to play it on here. All right. Here we go.

So this was five minutes into the show. Finally, I find that one day in the year they're allowed to use doorknobs. And I say, here's a link to the ticket thing. The tickets are how much? So not doing great. Make common sense. What was that? Common sense.

Common sense? Yeah, you make no sense right now. Biggest laugh of the night. I'm going to have to handle this very gently. What? Tell me. Talk to me. Why didn't we ask him to come here if he probably didn't understand?

Listen, I understand. You talk to the booker, not me. They can get their windows next time for you. Talk about a three-humped camel. What was that? Talk about a three-humped camel instead. You want me to talk about a three-humped camel? So then 50 minutes after that It was brutal And her parents Her parents just sitting there

I'm like please Please take her away. So I handled it terribly. What did you want to do? Attack the child instead? Do you regret not getting vicious? I thought like, oh, I didn't know what to do. I thought, should I bring her on stage?

That'll be fun. But should I come up with a three hump camel joke? I don't have any. You? I don't have any. You? I don't have any. I don't know. I think I'd be more mean. I would.

How mean? What would you do? I think if I wanted them out like you, I'd be like, someone take this fucking kid out. I don't know. That's not even fun. But that's not fun. They would hate me even more. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wiggles thing, you should have gotten more. I feel like that was a good thing. They don your point earlier. They don't watch Wiggles. They watch, you know, Rabbi Shlububu and the Bababas. They don't even know that reference. Yeah. Yeah, you would have to say like Snoopy, maybe. Sure, I should have thought of a more Jewish cartoon. What did she first say about

you make no sense? Yeah, she said you make no sense. And so I'm like, okay, this will be fun. Maybe I'd be like, no, your brain isn't developed. That's good. That's good. Idiot. You live in a bubble, honestly, actually. You will never know anything.

You'll have to escape your family once you realize and you don't want to wear a wig. You know what I mean? Sure. The problem is the camel line was cute. The first line, she wasn't wrong. I wasn't really making sense. None of the thing that was happening fully made sense. So did they not

like, what happened? You think from the beginning they were like, what? Because I know someone else who does, there's a comic, Noah Garten-Schwartz. He was telling me that he does this show, I think in Florida, at like a nice hotel where rich Jews go for Passover. So they don't

have to cook, they don't have to touch anything, everything's made for them, it's all catered, and every year he does an hour of comedy where he says half the crowd leaves throughout. And this year the booker went, no one left, and that was like, he murdered. So, I guess

notorious. I think like, honestly, the show went fine for the people that were there it's not like i was on a lineup where they saw like oh this they like their level of laughing was like oh this is a good show i think yeah um and did you get paid well decently enough friend connections friend connections i recently just did a college in Connecticut in the cafeteria on their dip night. So it was me and a bunch of dips. So it was like hummus, a buffalo chicken dip, you know. There were dips.

I don't know where my head went. Like tobacco or like drugs. I know. But like just and like carrot sticks and celery, chicken. Yeah, some chips. Yeah. Sure. Sure.

But it wasn't really go like I couldn't just do a set. This was the first time they'd ever seen comedy. These are 18-year-olds, maybe self-conscious. So I just started doing crowd work and started kind of making fun of them. And then every cool girl, I brought her to the front to build a cool girl table. But then the show devolved into them just asking me what famous people I know. And then when I would say a famous person, they would clap.

And so that's how it ended. What got the biggest pop? Oh, Pete Davidson, of course. Sure, of course. Yeah. Did they have follow-up? Oh, I said Demi Moore, crickets. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

The equivalent of saying Wiggles at the Jewish thing is Demi Moore crickets. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? The equivalent of saying Wiggles at the Jewish thing is Demi Moore for them. But I do feel like I watched them learn what comedy was because in the beginning they were weird. And then to one girl, I talked to a bunch of them. I go, who cares what your mom thinks? She's a drunk. And I could tell they were like, oh, she's kidding. And then they laughed. It was really kind of cool to watch.

But it's also upsetting that you care about these teens and what they think of you. And they're still like the cool skater teens where you're like, I hope they like me. You know? And it's like you're at a commuter college. Yeah. I think it's always interesting. There's so many people that come after comedy shows and they go, this was my first comedy show. And I don't know if other fields, it's quite as often like people have to learn

what this is, what the role is. Like you always talk about how audience has to be kind of active at comedy shows. It's an active audience experience. And I think part of it is learning that. So when you go to these venues where the whole audience hasn't seen a comedy show, they don't know that they're supposed to like laugh out loud. They're all just sitting there like, why isn't this like when I see... Or my opener, he did a joke that was maybe a little self-deprecating or about him not fucking well or something like that. And these girls were like,

oh my God, red flag. You don't know that. That's the whole comedy act. Like, oh, that opinion is not great. Yeah. To be fair, these kids might not have known they were going to see comedy. They might have just been there for the dip. Of course.

And they also had a little station where you could get your photo printed on a Cracker Jack box. I was competing with a lot of stuff. Weird mix of things. Yeah. Well, Russell had a more exciting gig this weekend. Well, Russell had a more exciting gig this weekend. Russell filled in for the first time playing Josh Gad's role in Gutenberg, the musical on Broadway. Are you fucking kidding me? I'm with a Broadway star right now?

Broadway star. I'm Josh's standby, and he called out under two hours notice on Saturday. And, you know, he— There was a scare last week. He's feeling better. But, yeah, there was a little bit of a... Real quick for the PR. He's feeling well.

The show will continue. Buy your ticket. You're not going to see Russell. Don't worry. He's not going to be there. But it almost happened on Monday. Russell... Monday, he wasn't feeling well.

So they were just, like, heads up, you know. So I... But you had a free... That would have been... Because we were going to have a live show, and I was like, I got to go home and, like... Because I've never done the show. So I was like... That's a know. But you had a freak. That would have been. Because we were going to have a live show, and I was like, I got to go home. Because I've never done the show. That's a weird way that you phrased it.

You said, I have to go home. I said, Russell, don't bother going to the live recording. I want you to take care of yourself. You were very sweet. But I had that freak out earlier in the week, which was good to have. And it was a false alarm. And the show, we were able to run the second half of the show because it never ran. It's a two-hander.

It's a gigantic role. Oh, I know it's him and Andrew Reynolds. Your Broadway. I'm a, I know, I love Andrew Reynolds a lot. Really? That's the connection? Really? Like, what have you fallen,

where did you first fall in love with Andrew Reynolds? I would say Book of Mormon and then Girls. And I had just recently rewatched Girls. And there's some scenes. He is so good. He's very good. I forgot that you're such a Girls fan. I forgot how.

Is his role big in Girls? Because I only saw that first season. Yeah, in and out. But later he has that monologue with that bald guy from House of Cards. And he's crying and holding it back and being vulnerable. And I was just like, oh my God, he's incredible. And like his arc was so good. So I, and this was a big deal, them reuniting again.

Yeah. Yeah. So, and, and, you know, I, so what I love about it, I'm glad it happened. I'm glad that for my first time, I didn't have a lot of time to spiral and be like, fuck. So what's the rehearsal for Understudy? What is that? How do you even know it? So I'd gotten to the other standby,

because it's just a two-person show. So we'd gotten to run things not on stage, but with each other in a rehearsal studio. We were at all the rehearsals that they were having. And then we would go and pop into another room and rehearse stuff from time to time. in a rehearsal studio. Like, we were at all the rehearsals that they were having, you know? And then we would go and pop into another room and rehearse stuff from time to time. And then once we got to the theater, we got to run, a couple weeks ago,

he and I got to run act one, like with the band on stage in costume, get notes. And then this past week, when there was that false alarm, we got to run act two on stage. But never, I've never run the full show, and I never run it with Andrew.

I've never done anything with Andrew. That's what people on the outside don't understand. These understudies carry Broadway. I mean, it was... Especially during COVID, like, all these alphabas got sick, and they had to, like, look for an alphabet. I had friends who had done Wicked, like, over 10 years ago,

getting calls and getting paid wild amounts of money just to come in and be like, because they were so desperate, being like, you know the track, you haven't done it in 10 years, but come on in. One day Titanic's going to say, we got 100 bucks with your name on it for the whole weekend. Guess what? I just kicked the cord and my headphones just started working. I've just been yelling at everyone this whole time.

That's why it probably sounds like I've been screaming. You haven't been in my ears. I cannot believe it. So you're singing, you're acting. I mean, do you feel like the crowd's a little pissed?

Well, here's what I will say. The good thing about it is that, you know, I was very stressed about that. It's a two person show so you're like,

oh, I would be disappointed. It's Olaf, right? And you're like, and like, people are excited. Kids started crying. So,

and they print out a thing that before you can go into the theater, they print out a giant post being like, if you want a refund, here it is. Here's how to do it. Like before you even walk into the building, people are given an option. They can get a refund. But a good amount, it was like a very full crowd. So not a lot of people left, which is good. So when they walk into the box office, there's what, a stack of papers? Out on the street, there's people handing out.

Like, basically, when you're getting in line, here's the thing to, like, you don't have to stay. You know? But I had lots of, I had, you know, Nicole, and then I had a lot of friends who scrambled last minute to come and see. And they were like, everyone in line. His wife, Nicole. Everyone in line. She mobilized. She texted.

Everyone in line was. I was fucking in fucking Iowa, or I would have been there. Everyone in line was very nice, and they were like, oh, it's the stand. Oh, it's the stand. They were trying to be like, it's the stand. It was a Broadway debut, too. And the director, Alex Timbers, who directed John Mulaney's last special, but has, what, 10 Broadway shows on right now?

Like three or four. He came out before and gave Russell russell a like a big hype speech you know this is this this guy's made us laugh we're kind of witnessing broadway history and just just just a really beautiful sweet and really the second one he's not gonna do that i know he's i was like it was very sweet and very helpful like the i could not when i went out the crowd was a very moving, touching thing. Like, the crowd was so, like, excited and, like, lovely and supportive the entire show. And it felt like, and then the other thing was that Andrew was just, like, the best.

Like, just the best. He was so sweet, so calm. So there'd be, like, small moments where I'd be like you know you're like you i was actually surprised how how much of it i was like oh this feels great totally normal having fun doing it and then you get then you get to a moment you'd be like holy fuck no idea what happens next and anytime i like dropped a line uh he would immediately do it at least the first half of the line and then i would be able to like. And because it's a play within a play, and it didn't feel unnatural.

It felt very like these two guys are still doing it. Any fuck-ups? There was one big thing that was terrifying. It's all these hats. You're playing all these characters, so you have stacks of hats that you have to throw off. Like 200 different hats that go on and on this, that. So I threw away one of the stacks of hats

too early. Like threw out five hats. And like it's gone. Yeah, gone. And so I go back to the table to get it and it's not there. I'm panicking. I see in the wings stage management

has printed out a piece of paper because they saw that I did it. That says if you want refunds. If you want to kill yourself. I have a gun. No, it says they printed out the order of the hats. So I could see it, look at their sign, quickly dig through the bin to restack the hats in order. Wow.

Some professional staging. Wild. Wild. So that was the only big thing that was very stressful in a moment. And it didn't really hold up the show that much. And it was like, fine. And so you've never been on Broadway before? No.

I was not doing musical theater a year ago. I was doing sketch comedy with you and UCB and Asylum and like and then I did Titanic off Broadway and then

Barely sang a lick. I sing a little bit. But it was such away. Barely sang a lick. Yeah, I sing a little bit. But it was such a hit. It was such a hit. But how was the singing? Was your voice, was it there? It was good. Yeah?

It was good. I mean, you know, Andrew has Andrew's voice. Andrew has an incredible voice. I have a good voice. And it felt like it was all good. It didn't feel like there were any notes where I was like, oh, fuck. You know, I felt really good about it. So insane.

It was insane. Very surreal. You know, so like if I were, I saw Hello Dolly twice with Bette Midler. If I came and it wasn't Bette Midler, I'd be pissed. If it was Russell Daniels, though. But I've seen Understudies on tons of shows where I'm just going to a show, and I never am like, that person wasn't at, never. You know, it's always, and I feel like it's the shot,

and they usually work a little harder, you know? I totally think that. I think it's just, I think the model of Broadway shows with stars is really difficult to maintain. Like, if your show really relies on the stars. Doing eight shows a week, it's nuts. It's insane.

You know, it really is. I mean, some of them have lately moved so that, like, on a, you know, certain performances, maybe six. No matinees.

You know? I had that kind of star power. No matinees. You have to at least do one for the, you have to. For the olds, yeah. I wish we had days where it was just like,

I like a brunch show, and then I go, I did my comedy for the day, I'm done. But had days where it was just like Matt. I like a brunch show, and then I go, I did my comedy for the day. I'm done. But you wouldn't. You would take a nap and go at night. You would, yeah. I don't even know you that well. That's your reputation, though. You're a psychopath.

I heard you can't take a break. Psychopath, the word that has to be used now. Dedicated to his craft. It's close to it, though. I used to be a psycho, too. And then something hits where you're like, no, I'm going to go to my friend's birthday. And I'm going to go to Vegas. And I'm going to go to it, though. I used to be a psycho, too, and then something hits where you're like, no, I'm going to go to my friend's birthday, and I'm going to go to Vegas, and I'm going to go to this Broadway show.

And I'll do the cellar late nights after. I saw the Broadway show last week. You did. I saw you do your one-line version of it. There's one line at the end. The last thing I'll say, the other thing about it that helps the whole situation is because of the circumstances of the show. And because it's like the whole thing is like these two guys are only chance

to do this thing. There was a lot of like meta stuff about that. Well, that was very, the help was worked in my favor for the audience being like, like so lovely and like excited to see this one kind of performance thing. It felt like it was very moving to me, you know, to be like some of those lines It felt like, it was very moving to me.

To be like, some of those lines are like, it's the most important night of my life, and being like, this might not happen again. It is like a... You say night, it was a matinee. So true. So he felt better for the night? He did, he came back for the night. He heard how well it went, he said,

I gotta get back there now. No, no, no, he's... So yeah, he's doing better uh but um why he was and he was so sweet he was like calling me and like very like but that's the story with adina menzel was uh she was doing wicked and apparently she went on vacation started hearing the raves i believe stephanie j block was getting and adina said, oh, she cut her vacation short and came back. Yeah.

Because she was like, I can't let this spread. Well, the original story, the big one too is- Thoroughly Modern Millie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thoroughly Modern Millie. There was a woman named Erin Dilley.

Yeah. I feel so bad saying this because she was my acting teacher for something. And she was Thoroughly Modern Millie, got sick, Sutton Foster did it in preview. Oh, yeah.

And the rest was history. Oh, my God. It's an awkward thing to like, you're like, yeah, I guess. And Erin's been on Broadway. Erin's had a fine career. And it's just because I know this person. But like, it's just, it's so crazy if that's the piece of trivia. That's just like the Broadway trivia people bring up.

She is the legendary story. Well, because a lot of theater heads, they think Stephanie should have gotten the role. And didn't Adina just get it because of Wicket? Or like someone? Who knows? I mean, because of Ren. It's so, oh, sure.

Like she just had the star power. Here's another story. Cher Renee Scott, who was a big Broadway... I've seen Adina live, and me and my friend grabbed each other and we're like, something is wrong. She should have had an understudy that day. Me and my friend grabbed each other and were like, something is wrong.

She should have had an understudy that day. I think Idina would be a great guest on the podcast someday. Put on some shoes. You're at this amazing venue. You're just shoeless bringing children up to sing. The sun will come out. I thought you were talking to me just now. Put on some fucking shoes.

Show some goddamn respect. So Idina Menzel was in Rent, and she has this monologue in the middle where she goes, moo with me. She's doing a performance art piece. And the crowd goes, moo. And she was very popular. Sherri Renee Scott replaced her. And apparently people were so mad Idina wasn't there,

they would go, boo. Oh my god. Boo. Devastating. That's awful. I do have a beautiful understudy moment. So when I did see Hello, Dolly, Bette Midler,

so one of the male parts was an understudy, and during the curtain call, Bette Midler grabbed him and brought him to the front to get his own bow. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. That's so sweet. Yeah.

I get chills thinking about it. It was like, God, what a fucking, I love her. Yeah, she's not a great tweeter, though. That girl said some wild stuff on Twitter. No, these boomers. It's just honestly a reminder to all of us to continuously grow and change and evolve and try to understand the youth, or we will all end up that way. Get some friends in your 40s.

This is what happens. You really have to be vigilant about understanding youth culture. I feel like it already happens in our 30s. I feel like you'll talk to someone our age, or I don't know how old you are, but you'll talk to someone and you'll be like, oh my God, they sound so...

And you're just going to be that way? You're already that way like you're already that way like about mad about like whatever and you know what it is it's trans yeah they're mad about the trans yeah what are they mad at yeah my day they didn't have the fact of the matter is like i i don't know i it's just been like these people have been around for a long time like you're late like you don't get to comment on it. You just found out about trans things two years ago? You're out of this. I had my first transfer at 19.

I'm 36. Like, I don't, you're, you don't get to comment on something that's, people that have been around for decades. I don't know. It's the same thing with like, it's like high school women's sports. I'm just like, what are you talking about? I want to be like, name me one professional female swimmer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Name me one. Yeah. And then also they find this one, they're like, you see a trans woman played volleyball, made a little girl explode. And you, yeah, yeah. Name me one. Yeah. And also, they find this one, like, you see a trans woman play volleyball, made a little girl explode, and you're like,

okay, relax. Relax. People get hurt in sports all the time. We have a whole profession where people are getting CTE. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah. Shut the fuck up. But also, because it's also bad because it's like, this is the knockings of fascism and the fact that these people don't see that they are marks of it. You are part of the state. You are now part of whatever is about to go down.

This is how it starts and you are a mark for it. And then cut to 40 years when the dust settles, you're going to be like, that wasn't me. I didn't have Richard Spencer on my podcast. It's like you did settles. You're going to be like, that wasn't me. I didn't have, you know, Richard Spencer on my podcast. It's like, you did. Yeah. You did. Yeah. You did do these things.

And you were against trans people. And it was just the beginning. Guess what the next laws are going to be? To me, it's that idea where they go, parents especially. It's so annoying being a Jew. I just feel like the Holocaust is always in my brain. Like, I can never. I'll be in Vegas at a pool. I'll be like, this is fun. And then I'll be like, oh, no. Like, like i can never i will be in vegas at a pool i'll be like this is fun and

then i'll be like oh no like i just can never relax it's so bleak well your your grandparents my dad was born in 1938 my mom was born june 9th 1945 her parents met in a labor camp how much do you know about like how do they you know they don't talk it's only when my dad's blacked out drunk and he'll be like, Lisa, and then tell me a story. They don't like to talk about their trauma. Yeah. Just the idea of- Even if someone new dies, they won't tell me for months.

They don't want to hurt my feelings. And when did your- Did you get to talk to your grandparents at all? No, they were- I'm going to go to a medium soon. I'm going to see if I can communicate with them. Yeah, you can't even you can't even pretend there's one medium that i think is good um through i you know i've seen some stuff

so i'm gonna try to go to her because i've never met my grandparents yeah i want to see if maybe they'll communicate are you about to play like a dumbo noise no no one of the cards is full but it's okay we're recording under here. It's fine. It's fine. I hate this whole thing. A medium. Yeah. So this is what's wild. Why is it hard?

No, I know why. Because there's flyer. You know, it's magic. So it's like I understand people being skeptical. Basically, I was listening to a podcast that I like. I think it was Les Culturistas. Busy Phillips was a guest on it. And she said that her friend Shantira went to a podcast that I like I think it was Les Culturistas Busy Phillips was a guest on it and she said that her friend Shantira went to a medium and during the her session Busy's grandma came in called her her nickname and went can you tell Busy that I'm trying to reach out to her and called her

this nickname that only her grandma called her and then Busy Phillips was like, what the fuck? And then went to this medium. So it's like, I'm going to go to the medium. You're silent. Do me a favor. Could you close this camera and give me that card? Oh, my God. Sorry. Yeah, this angle's not for everybody, too. You know, like, I don't need this.

I look great from front on. Sometimes. You know, though. There's a lot of scammers. If there was real... I think it is. But not everyone. I think there are people that are

not good at terror, or whatever it is. And let's say it's a trick of figuring stuff out. You know, whatever. I'm okay with it. I'm someone that leans in. I go into everything like, let's do it. Sure. It's my only shot. I never had grandparents.

Like, let me try it. You know what's so funny? I was performing at a Funny Bone. Maybe I could tell my mom something and then she'll cry and then we'll have this beautiful moment. Like, who knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are you so opposed?

But I, you know, I pick a little car. I have like, I have little decks, like clairvoyant, and I'll pick one and I'll read about it and I'll kind of like think, how does this affect my day? Can I do something with it? Sure. But couldn't that just, oh, you first of all, okay. First, couldn't you have a deck that was just like, thoughts for the day? Here's my premise.

Just go along with my premise. Let's go with the premise that it's all made up. It's not the bottom page and you push pop it out. You can turn the camera to the left. This is an exciting podcast. There's just also less confusing apparatuses you can use. This board is so

intense. Alright, let's pause. I'll go to Guitar Center. I'm just saying there's simpler simpler ways there's like 55 chords what is this is this where the card is there this okay here we go okay this is the time of my life so okay so here's my premise go with me along for this for a second okay it's let's say it's not real it's not real it's completely made up yeah the people who do it some of them are fully lying some of them they kind of feel something but ultimately what they're doing is kind of uh it's a cold reading which is essentially crowd work but

instead of going for a laugh you go for oh i got something that was true if it is all made up, is there any harm to it at all, given that people then build sometimes their whole life around this thing being real, maybe don't deal with certain things that they should be dealing with it because they believe in this afterlife, the same way that some evangelical Christians don't deal with global warming because they say, oh, well, Christ comes and then it's all fine. So under the premise that it is completely made up, which I know part of you says maybe, wouldn't it be a problem in that scenario? Everything could be a problem.

There's obviously rich people that have fortune tellers on their payroll that'll tell them whatever they want to hear for some cash. There's people that are like, come on in. But also going back to crowd work i feel like i have a gift like when i can look at a person be like so you play kickball and they go i do like i think i'm good at it like i don't think it's a chance like i i could we can read people and i think that's a skill they're doing crowd work what do you do for work electrician wait did your grandfather die recently no because i Because I did this funny bone. Paige, it's at the bottom.

It's on the belly. It's on the belly. You need to stop referring to the camera's belly. And then you, yeah. Oh, ah, there we go. Paige, thank you. Funny bone. They were doing the preview.

Sometimes before the show, it's horrible because they show little clips from stand-up comedians coming there soon. And sometimes the clips are awful. But I'm not paying attention and they're doing their jokes and then I suddenly hear like, I see your father

and he misses you and I look up and it's a psychic who's going to be stopping by some of these comedy clubs. They have psychics stop by the Funny Bone. They don't do comedy too?

No, no. No, they just do medium work and it's not no no no they just do medium work and it's just like some comedy clubs comics mohegan sun where you've been they have medium stop by yeah and especially in that context i'm like we're doing the same thing we're doing the same thing yeah we're going to we're going to cincinnati like and maybe there's enough people here i can fucking get to come there's just you know I'm a real housewife fanatic and it's on an episode oh the comedy show yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I have to re-watch they've had a few comedy shows but um it's fucked that I don't remember it because I am uh pretty intense into it but they the housewives

love going to mediums and fortune tellersers and spiritual healers, they love it. It's a trope. And usually it's bullshit. And then they went to one in Queens, and it's this Turkish woman, and she reads the coffee grinds that you leave behind. But these women were in fucking full-on tears. I mean, I don't know. It was like really intense, cool stuff.

And maybe if you're not dealing with stuff here because you know it's an afterlife. I don't know if that association is it for me. I don't know. I mean, relating to comedy, comedy and psychics, I think it would be the same thing as like if someone is getting all their news and believing from a comedian

or from a podcast like rather like it's your relationship to the thing to like like if you're going to a psychic and you're going to fully believe everything and change your life based on that yes that's crazy but it's the same thing as like listening to a comedian being like like oh i now know what's exactly going on it's the equivalent of when someone says jesus told me this thing in a dream and i go okay okay what's exactly going on. To me, it's the equivalent of when someone says, Jesus told me this thing in a dream. And I go, okay, what level do I have to pretend that this isn't just a trick that you play in your book? This is where you lose me,

because I think if you're super religious, that's the same as having schizophrenia. But my argument is that, no offense, is what you're talking about. No offense. Schizophrenic. no offense schizophrenic talk about jesus it's more like energy it's more like you know but that's the same that's so what i don't know just sometimes i have these moments where i'm with someone and i'll be like wait what's going on with this and they're like oh i can't believe you it's the i don't know like sometimes connections are real i also my what i hear is my grandmother was people from the neighborhood would come get their cards read by her and so because i didn't know that because

my parents don't tell me anything but a few years ago i got my family a deck of like old school um playing cards from the soviet union like oh yeah yeah like, yeah. Like, old school. Where you were born. Yeah. And it's just complicated because it's modern-day Ukraine, but I'm Russian-speaking and, like, whatever. So I gave her these cards, and she was so happy. And then she told me that, like, people from the neighborhood would come, and my grandma would read them cards.

She would never accept money. People would bring food. But people, when they were having issues, they would go to her. And a part of me is like, is she in me? Is is she i want to like be she was doing the cars did at any point she said oh this adolf hitler not looking good oh this card says move let's get out of here quick but no one had money i don't know she was yeah it was after but people in the neighborhood just went to her and maybe it is fake and comfort, but whatever. Some people gamble.

I don't know. Sure. Sure. Paige, what's your... Well, we'll see. Maybe I'll do a return appearance on this show and tell you how the medium... This is actually making me want... Because I've been holding onto her information for a year and a half and being a little too

nervous to go. And maybe now I'll just do the plunge. Please do. If you do it, I'll just do the plunge. Please do. If you do it, I'd happily have you out to hear it back. We tried having a medium on and I thought. But the ones that want attention are bad. You know, it's like the TV doctors. How did you find out about this person again?

Someone talked about her because her friend went, but it wasn't like she was on this podcast. Busy Phillips was just like, you won't believe what happened. My friend went to a medium and my grandmother spoke to her. Uh-huh. And so, like, you know. I'd love to have a medium say something to me that made me go, oh, my God. Yeah. I don't know if you'd be up into it, though.

Because you're, like, you're also wanting them to do everything. Like, be fully, like, no. This is like you made it weird all of a sudden. What the fuck is going on? I don't know. You're just so closed off. I wish. I'm not closed off. I wish. I wish. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying, who cares?

I'll see a certain number that I like to see, and I'll go, I'm living in the right direction. Keep going. I'm in it. I used to have that, but I think that's a little OCD. I used to have things in my head. I went through, like, I think that's I think that's a little OCD I used to have things in my head I went through like I was just thinking about death in college

I had a little existential crisis and I used to say to myself like oh if this number ends up coming up seven then I you're gonna die then there's an afterlife like some kind of like

there's some kind of and it's just like it's like a little tick in the brain yeah and it was six six six I'm just I cannot believe that this is all there is Like a little tick in the brain. Yeah. And it was six, six, six. I'm just, I cannot believe that this is all there is.

Me, but when I say it, I can't believe it. I fucking can't believe it. This is all there is? I just want a little magic. Me too. I want a little fun. We don't differ there. I want a little magic. Yeah too. I want a little fun. We don't differ there. I want a little magic.

Yeah. What's magic to you? I think that any kind of, should there be anything of note, spiritual, consciousness-wise, we would be incapable of understanding it or receiving it at all. If there were people who could do any of this, the proof would be so evident, all they would have to do. Harry Houdini famously was a big skeptic. And he said,

there's a safe. I've hidden a piece of paper in it. Only I know the code to the safe. All you psychics, all you mediums, when I die, bring me back. I'll tell you the code. You can open the safe. Any shred, any shred of impossible-to-debunk proof, if it existed, it would have happened. Governments would be reshaped religions would change the whole world if someone could really say something that couldn't be proven that it was a coincidence or something else the whole world would be different well no i think it's because it's mostly women

that do it so we're witches and they were never respected yeah they probably spirits over there were like i I don't, he seems like a dick. I'm not going to talk to him and bring in like that. That's what I prevent the afterlife from being known. No, but they'll kill women. You know,

women have all these magical powers and intuitions that have had to be stifled for our safety instead of diving full in or not. Or come from you know war-torn people and they needed something okay okay both of you really and i think i think i think we're going there i think we're entering war-torn and i'm gonna be like i need something to get through these days i do superstitions to all my old superstitions from my parents it's i do them all which ones if i leave the house and i forget something i have to look in the mirror before i leave again i don't hug in a doorway i don't celebrate things before they happen i don't buy baby gifts before the baby is born i don't step over anyone's legs i um i'm gonna do that when i go to baby showers now and i don't bring a present

sorry i don't believe old russian thing no i tell them i go i'll come to your part i usually try to avoid showers altogether but i'm trying to be more chill. But I'll be like, you're not getting a gift. I would never. I would never do that. What else is there? Oh, I show my pocket to a crescent moon. I'm sorry.

What the fuck? I open my wallet or pocket to the – if I see a crescent moon, I go, ah. And then I open my pocket and I show the moon. What is that for? What is that? Abundance. I don't know. Okay.

Cash money. Oh, okay. I just see the respect you had for me go down more and more. No, I respect you. Wow, you have OCD and you're R-word. You made it this far with full-blown schizophrenia.

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Oh, I was a young child. I was... Well, you know, the immigration took a year and a half through like Austria, Italy, but I came to America at three years old. Okay. So, but you were Jewish there. And was that why they left? Yeah, we came on religious asylum.

So it's like when all the Russian Jews came in the early 90s, late 80s. And why were they kicked out again? Was it, my history is so brutal. We weren't kicked out. I was just like, the jewish and i felt like there was a whole friendly but talks about it that's in her documentary but there was like a whole she got booed at this event because it was all the rabbi it was all these like um so many jews being like we need to help the russian jews we need to bring them here

and um then friendly but it's made a like a funny joke about like all these jewish mother and then Fran Lebowitz made a funny joke about all these Jewish mothers and then everyone booed and the rabbis had to walk her off the stage. Wait, they booed her because she... She made a joke and it didn't hit. It didn't hit. I mean, I know my parents, you weren't allowed to go to certain schools

or professions. Jews were not treated well, but I don't know the extent post-Holocaust. But even with the conflict now, sometimes my parents are like, Russian, Ukrainian, we were Jewish. Everyone hated us. Like, it doesn't matter.

Sure, sure. But yeah, we don't really talk about anything. But we came in like, the Jewish community in Chicago is what helped us. Like, we had a valentura. We had like a family, and they were American, and they would like helped us be American.

They would like show us the ropes of American life. And I got my mom her job that she worked at for like 30 years. And your parents, so they lived there for a long time though. Like is your dad, tell me about your dad. Your dad sounds fascinating. He's, you know, he's great. I mean, he's 85 years old and he does his steps. He works at the pool in the summer.

He has his garden. I mean, he is an active human. But he's an asshole. Yeah. He's like an old Soviet man. Yeah. He's a dick. You know, my way or the highway. Like, if you just say no or not right now, it's a full-blown attack on him.

And he's not kind. So, like, he'll never say anything nice to me. But, like, I love telling the story. So I was, like, upstairs doing a Zoom interview with local Chicago news. Yeah. I'm doing it. I come downstairs. They watch it on the TV.

And my dad goes, you look down too much. Don't do that. Then, cut to, I'm leaving. He hands me an, a binder and in the binder are photos of the TV. He went and got printed. And then I had all my photos printed in like the binder sleeves, but he could have just said, good job. Yeah. But he can't, you know, he can't just express any sort of kind emotion. But my neighbor will be like, we get drunk and watch your videos. And he talks about you.

Or he'll keep the newspaper and my mom will be like, stop bragging about her. But to my face, it'll be like, that's it? Oh, you were in the other episode longer. You know, like he'll never be nice. What makes him laugh? I don't know my stepfather was not a very laughing guy but i remember we saw borat and the nude wrestling scene i thought he was gonna die he laughed he just and it is it's interesting too my father's the same way, too. He loves slapstick stuff. Yes, we watched Three Stooges growing up.

That was our thing. Not speaking English, it's like action movies, Three Stooges, stuff like that. But I had a moment like that. Our whole family went to see my big, fat Greek wedding. And boy, did we love it. And my sister's husband's family all went, and they're like the American ones. And we're the wild ones. And so we just had a ball.

I remember that movie going. Does that movie hold up? I think so. I really do. They're making a third one. Yeah, I heard the second one. The second seemed like it was rough, but I just remember the Windex.

Yeah. And that was the funniest thing in the world. But I've also, my dad was 50 when I was born, and that is what's hard. I've always just had old parents so some of it is like i've just had senior citizens around where he could have been cooler when he was young like he was a slut he was sexy he looked like jude law he was a whore and like

he would not even be he didn't marry my mom till they were like way pregnant with me like he was just like a whore around town your oldest sister half sister or full sister he's a fucking piece of shit i'm telling he's like a he's like a fuck boy my dad's a fuck boy what made him finally settle like is he now is he like did he become a family man once he moved so he like i think he was obsessed with me as a baby that's so cute and that and his mom he lived with so my my grandma died a few days before i was born and he lived with his mother till the day she died he refused to be with like live with my mom or do anything because he stayed with his mother and that's why he's also like his way or the highway because he you shouldn't live with your mom till you're 50

yeah and so that's wild so unless you all treat him like he's the prince of the house he's pissed you know and so until the mom died and then i was born a few days later and then he had to go live with my mother and then maybe that's when i'll be like less commitment phobic is when you're so committed though you're like in such a committed relationship it's true uh yeah that gift you gave was thoughtful but you, you know, he is embarrassing. But they're at every game. And then my mom is like the more soft one, this Lizichka, like so sweet.

But your comedy, you talk about sex, you talk about drugs and other things too. But like, how did they react? Were they chill in the beginning? They don't really go. They've seen me twice. They watch my shit on like, you my specials i guess but i just hope for the best that they don't understand what i'm saying but they my i think my mom trolled me once because she called

me and i do this joke um netflix the degenerates but it's basically about birthright and how you're like having like come on your tits at the Holocaust Museum. So that's the joke. There's more to it. There's some tags. You really want to talk to your grandparents through this medium? And I'm like, it's weird being at the Holocaust Museum and you have six million Jews dead on your tits. Something like that.

Sure, sure. That's how your grandma met your grandpa. It was at the same location. But my mom called me and she goes, me and your dad don't know how you made the Holocaust funny. Why was it funny same location. But my mom called me and she goes, me and your dad don't know why, how you made the Holocaust funny. Why was it funny?

Can you explain that joke to us? So I knew that. I like it. You can explain it and at the end they go, oh. Yes. Laugh and laugh.

I was just like, absolutely not. We don't say I love you, but I always feel loved. You know, it's like very kind of stereotypical kind of Eastern European tough loved. You know, it's like very kind of stereotypical kind of

Eastern European tough energy, you know? But they let me be who I am, like get tattoos and I got arrested as a youth. Like, I really did get to live in America. What were you arrested for? Being a drunk bitch. Yeah, that's on the report. Yeah.

I was just a drunk maniac. Yeah. And I got arrested three times in like a year and a half. Wow. Oh my god. And then I found stand-up and I was like, oh maniac. I got arrested three times in a year and a half. Wow. Oh, my God. Then I found stand-up, and I was like, oh, I'm chill now. Really? Yeah.

I just needed to find my purpose, and my purpose for a while was getting drunk. But I started at 21, so it's perfect. Having all your arrests before 20, great. You've never been arrested? No. Oh, not these theater boys. I almost did. I almost did once.

I got disorderly conduct for peeing in public when I was young. Thank God you didn't get it. They were nice about it. But it was in an alley outside. You know what I mean? That could fuck up your whole life. Truly. Did they tap you midstream?

No, they let me stop. And then I came around. Oh, when you came back around, it was like, it was like the bar was like, it was one of those things where it was just like the bar was great. It was like, I just left and I was like, fuck.

And then it was so crazy line to get back in. And I was like, not thinking and drunk and like, you know, 20 or 21. It must've been 21. And then, um,

yeah, but it was me and two other friends, all of us. Um, real quick, let me just say for those just joining, this is The Downside. We didn't get to our normal intro, but if you're enjoying... I know, we'll play it. If you're enjoying the show, please join the Patreon, patreon.com slash downside. We're building up.

We're releasing one bonus episode every month now. Live episodes. We got live episodes coming up with what's his name? Ari Hershkowitz? Yes. He, from the movie One of Us about leaving the Hasidic community.

Whoa. Brooklyn. Did you see that documentary? No, I couldn't. It was going to make me too sad. Like there's just certain things. Even though I have like a crime pod. I was just like I can't.

I should though. Yeah. I think your crime pod deals with more fucked up thing. For sure. There's just something about, it just makes me so sad. And thinking about all the people that are there and that mom trying to get away from her kid.

It's like get her getting her kid. It's just, it makes me so sad. A lot of it is about this, this mom who left trying to get custody of her 38 children. And it's, uh, I mean, it's like nine kids, the religious stuff, you know, the Duggar documentary, that one, this mom who left trying to get custody of her 38 children. And it's like nine kids. The Duggar documentary, that one,

I couldn't... It's just like... I just feel so sad. Did you guys ever watch Wife Swap? Yeah. Or I'm familiar, but I didn't watch it. You mean like the reality show? Yeah, I used to love that. I saw a porno recently called Wife Swap. I saw the worst thing in a porno recently. This girl's on her foot had a tattoo, live, laugh, love.

And I was like, this is insane. Wow, you know how we're watching different porns? Because that's the worst thing you saw in a porn recently. No, I watch horrific porn, but I like it. I have a subscription. I pay for porn. You pay for porn? I pay for my site.

We did this. We had a porn star on. We had Aaliyah Janine. Yeah. And Russell's never paid for porn in his entire life. Well, I... No, it's fine. You pay for...

Well, when you like sick shit, you got to get a membership. You know? Like, you got to find it somewhere. A website? Kink.com. Kink.com. Kink.com. And you can't just find it anywhere else?

You could get the short clips on Pornhub. Is there a tab for live, laugh, love tattoos on right foot? What are the tabs? What are the regular tabs? So I'm a public disgrace girly. That's the channel I like. But they have gang bangs, bound shit. What does public disgrace mean?

Like people are around? Yeah, so it's like a porn star will be taken into, let's say, a biker bar. And there's all these bikers. And then there's a few professionals on hold. And then every porn star is different. So some it's like everyone can stick their dick in the, you know, it's like whatever. Sure, sure. But they're mostly being disrespected by the group.

Sexually, not just like. Yeah, they'll put like a pool cue in a butt. Uh-huh. They're not like saying your credit score is bad. But everyone has their own limits. But it's, yeah, it's public discretion. So it's like in a bar, a clothing shop, a sex shop. And so they'll close it down.

Sometimes it's like regular customers. And then they're like a bodega, a pizza store. and so they'll close it down. Sometimes it's regular customers, and then they're like, a bodega, a pizza store, but it's all in San Francisco. Are all the regular, it's all in San Francisco? Yeah, because that's where the Kink Castle used to be, but they sold it to Soho House for $65 million. That's a production company? It was a whole castle,

but Kink was in the castle, and they would have these parties. Oh, I think I've heard of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you have? Have and um i think i've heard of this yeah yeah yeah oh yeah have you i think he was one of the bikers in that bar he's got the cube to break up but i watched the interviews before and after to like suss out how i feel about like the morality of what's happening um they have they have pre and post interviews yes because kink is actually like you need the safe words they need you to know that the women know their safe words

like what's happening in the video though if they had said the safe word they would have cut that part out like you don't see them say the safe word in the video no but I like to know that their limits are being respected and not pushed it's fascinating to want, to want to see like the disrespect,

the illusion. It's, it's like, it's playing the game. Well, a lot of the porn stars, like a Bella Dane, because there's other ones where you're just tied up there.

It's not a public thing, but it's like hitting it. And it's a lot like for a lot of these porn stars, so much of it is, and I'm sure they're acting during this too, but so much of like normal porn is fake. It's acting, you know,

it's, and so here you're really thrown into hopefully real, you know, they're, like, it's a little more real, raw. Yeah, yeah. In a way. Because they're tied up or whatever. I don't know. I see it and I just go, like, oh, this looks like it's. And then the after interview, sometimes you can see that the girl's like wow that crowd was crazy yeah i they really were hitting me you know and then sometimes it's like

sometimes it's a girl that's like that was the best day of my life i loved that part i loved that everyone hit out that when they you spit in my mouth i loved it so it's like i like to make sure it's a positive energy before I like, so you go to the post and you go, okay, they seem okay. Yeah. Let's see how their makeup got like this. Yeah. I watched the pre and post. I see their energy. Like, are you eight? Like, but sometimes I like it when it's really bad too. But like sometimes when it's like 18 year old services, old men, I'm like, ah, this is sad. Why is sad why is she here but then you know i read a lot like laura lee has like this amazing um article she wrote about like the like sex work and how

it could be like it's all about like being positive for it and you but if you don't have financial freedom how like how much of a choice can it be and like of course but also they they also want autonomy where it's like if they're saying they're fine like you know stop thinking i'm a victim and so there's just like a lot you know of course but i i try to engage in all of it and actually support them and not just well yeah i think that's the i think it's so frustrating about the hypocrisy of like when they fire teachers for finding their OnlyFans. It's like you can't – let's say in your mind, you're of the mindset, oh, not everyone should be doing OnlyFans. Your only option to try to change that is to help economically in other areas.

So that's not what they're forced to do. But instead, they follow the human impulse of we'll fire you if you do it. We'll ban the OnlyFans, blah, blah, blah. And it's just that frustrating thing of, no, the way to actually help would be to pay your teachers more. And then some of them might not do it anymore. But you don't have control. If you want control, you've got to join kink.com. Yeah, they were the first to stop stop working with james dean after his allegations

came out and stuff because like because it's kind of violent and fucked up at when you just see it for sure you have to make sure that like everyone is following the rules you know you can't have someone shady you can't have someone trying to push your limits there yeah you know james dean yeah i heard the whole story yeah yeah yeah he wanted me to have him on the pot and i keep telling you no i but there are some cool there's some jew there you know joanna angel she grew up like a orthodox jew and she's uh joanne angel i thought you said like joe and angel her husband is small hands but they live in new york that you should have them on yeah yeah they're fine they're tattooed

she's actually amazing because she was the first female to own like a porn production company and website and it was for tatted rocker girls I fucking love it she went to college with Chris Gethard he always says that like he was puking one night and she helped him

like humiliated him and filmed him? I was like, yeah, puke on my puss. No, I'd love to have him on. I think it's, there was that porn star recently, him and his wife, he basically had like, it's all- It's Lena the Plug and Adam 22 or whatever.

And then suddenly I saw like Adam 22 start sharing like political beliefs on Twitter. I was like, oh, yeah, you know, it was that moment where people have with actors where people are like, all these conservatives who love Robert De Niro are like, please stop. And I saw this. I was like, oh, God, I don't want to know this about everybody. How bad is, I mean, he's probably bad. He like.

Yeah. She's so cool. I just. You know, so Adam 22 and Lena the Plug, they have a show, I guess. Well, so this is what's funny. So they have a podcast called Plug Talk, and I kept looking for it.

I, you know, I saw the... I was like, where is it? Apple, where is it? It's obviously on OnlyFans. They fuck after they podcast. Oh. Yeah, yeah. So it's the couple sits... Can you imagine with all these wires,

with all these cameras, suddenly fucking, the audio would get cut off immediately. It'd be chaos. I can't imagine spending one more second with you after this when we get done with the podcast episode, let alone fuck you. So then she starts with the girl,

and then the guy. That'd be my humiliation porn. They'd be like, this setup is horrible. The guest. The guest is usually a porn star always and then they fuck afterwards and this is on only fans it's a good idea but they only so she only fucks women and him and so she fucked this other guy for the first time but this is what you do as a porn star you got to hold your asshole you got to hold your gang bangs your girl because that that's you gotta hold out on it and then get the big paycheck and so she didn't fuck a dude

for a year and they made a big deal out of it of like oh he's getting cucked and he did this whole like i'm you know people are so obsessed with the idea of like you're a cuck now and he really like played onto the like he bought our lamborghinis like yeah they. They made a lot of money. And now that he's famous now he's like, here's my political views. And it was one of the big what does he hate? I'm like so curious. I would be misquoting it, but it's something.

I just want to know the direction because it seems like they would be liberal. It could have easily been like Ukraine stuff. I'm not sure what it was, but it was just like. This is what I'll complain about. All these people are like, we shouldn't send money to Ukraine or whatever. They're not going to spend it on you.

They're thinking like if the money doesn't go to Ukraine, it's going to go to public education and food security. It's not going to go to retirement. They're going to buy bombs. So it's like, who gives a shit this idea? It's like my dad with his horses. He'd spend it on horses. And it's like, it's not going to me. No. It're going to buy bombs. So it's like, who gives a shit this idea? It's like my dad with his horses. He'd spend it on horses. And it's like, it's not going to me. No. It's going to his new girlfriend's fake tits.

Yeah. That's where it's going. Wait, so your dad's a little scumbag too, or what? Big scumbag. But he has bought breast implants for- Multiple. I swear, mom, if I get this wrong, I'm sorry. But I'm pretty sure my mom, I know my mom has breast implants,

and I'm pretty sure my dad paid for them, which had to have been tough for my stepdad. Had to have been tough to be like, did he write a thank you note? We also have to replace them every decade or so, no? I don't know. I'll have to ask my mom. But she told me this funny story that my sister, my little sister, thought like, oh, well, eventually these are going to grow in.

And my mom had to be like, oh, sweetheart, no. There's no titties coming in. So funny. But your dad's done for like three? At least two, probably more. Who knows? Is that a scumbag? It depends.

Did they want the breast implants? Did he put pressure and then they wanted it? Well, on Vanderpump Rules, one of the bad boys, Jax, he told his now wife, Brittany, he's like, well, if I'm half paying for them, I get to choose what size they're going to be. And he was being really aggressive and weird about it. What size did he pick? They look great.

I don't even remember. But he wanted, obviously, bigger. And she's like, I think just a C. I don't even remember. But he wanted obviously bigger and she's like, I think just a C. I don't know. Yeah, C's fine. What's your choice? I think,

I think, yes, he's great. B, C. You know, I think anytime it's like you go crazy big, there's a lot, like in the future,

how's that going to be? You know what I mean? It's going to be a lot harder. It's the back issues. I know so many women who have gone to breast reduction. That seems like it's got to be tough. Because they take it.

Don't they take it under? The tit? I mean, it's a lot. Surgery just, you know, our culture, it's like plastic surgery is so in and all this stuff. But it's like, it's major surgery. It's really serious shit. I could never imagine. It's hard for me to imagine.

Because I have a deviated septum. The idea of getting surgery I don't have to get. Surgery is so scary. Are you snoring? I'm not snoring, but I can't breathe. If I'm a little bit stuffy, I can't breathe at all. And I have this mindset of like, oh, if I could breathe through my nose, my anxiety would go down.

Then I'd be cool and chill and have friends. You wouldn't be a psychopath. Never. Before we go to this, gotta stop. You wouldn't be a psychopath. Never. Psychopath. Before we go to this, gotta stop. You have this true crime podcast?

Yeah. I'm curious. That's messed up. An SVU podcast. Me and my friend Cara, we talk about an episode of SVU that we talk about the true crime it's based on. And then pre-strike,

we talk to actors from the episode. That's fun. It's really fun. You ever get iced tea? Not iced tea yet, but we got Captain Craig. pre-strike we talked to actors from the episode that's fun it's really fun you ever like get like iced tea not iced tea yet but we got captain craig we got a lot of we got um kelly giddish we had who's the guy that died recently who was a comic richard belzer he wouldn't do it so he lived um he was great he was living in france the life oh yeah and a ton of money he would just be with his dog margaret cho told us that he was

just like at cafes with his leashless dogs going crazy high as hell and um packed picnic baskets cool home and they tried to get him for the 500th episode they're like can you just zoom in and he goes i just i don't have wi-fi and i don't want to so he wouldn't you know we couldn't really get him but we've got a bunch of the cast members but we've gotten like oscar winners we've gotten lou diamond phillips wyclef you know it's um matthew lillard was recently amazing but yeah cool cool people a lot of broadway babies too the guy who plays beetlejuice alex breitman yeah we had him on um yeah we had some cool broadway people on and one dumb bitch from broadway we'll talk shit about later oh yeah oh good when you look at the real crimes obviously there's a lot of true crime podcasts right now yeah and and some

critique i think of it more especially like with like the dahmer series where i didn't watch it where there's a degree of i remember there was a a video and they showed like this woman testifying against uh dahmer in court and then they compared it to the acting performance and the acting performance was like very accurate but like the woman in the video had expressly said please don't make this fucking show yeah what's your opinion or what do you have any rules about like the way that you joke about this stuff how old the crimes are how you do you feel like you respect? And we've said all sorts of fucking shit on here.

Yeah, no, we care a lot. So we're interested in this. I think it's, for me, I'll talk about, as humans, we've always been into crime. People went to hangings. They went to the Manson homes. We had hard copy, 2020, Dateline, Autopsy on HBO, Forensic Files.

But only when women started making podcasts about crime is suddenly the ethics of it brought up. You know what I mean? I've been complaining about it way before we were involved. It's just interesting that no one had had an issue with dateline and then all of a sudden it's like two girls in a podcast which i get it's like a cliche and suddenly it's like let's talk about the ethics and it's like i don't know you guys are doing tours of murder places i mean i went to a serial killer wax museum in niagara falls in junior high and i forced my family to go and the photos are funny because everyone is livid and I am beaming right beaming it's just of the serial killers yeah in their things so like the body

part you know there's just like what it's it's a wax museum but it's the killers in action with it's sick but I went as a child and I demanded it you know so it's like why do you think you have a because I think it's it's more those stories upset me in a way. I don't feel good at all. No. And you're similar. Yeah, I get stressed about it. No, it's awful. So we have to take breaks because we'll record a bunch and then we sometimes have to step away.

Sometimes a crime will be too much where I go, I need a break. Because they do really horrify me. I think about them all the time. I think it's changed my brain chemistry, how I act, things I'm scared of. I'm way more suspicious and on edge. It has changed me as a person, reading all this stuff.

We joke in the SVU. We also write to parole boards. We raise money. We've had victims' families message us. We do try really hard. And we fuck up. And sometimes we get really kind messages letting us know. Sometimes not.

It's really sensitive information. And we get really pissed? Yeah, but you know what I learned? One early episode of SVU, Not A True Crime, they had someone with trichotillomania, which is an anxiety disorder where you rip your own hair out. And so I knew about it because MTV True Life had a trichotillomania, which is an anxiety disorder where you rip your own hair out. And so like I knew about it because MTV True Life had a trichotillomania episode when I was like in junior high. So it's always been a thing in my life.

And I have a friend, a really dear friend that has it. So I just know about it. So I just talked about trichotillomania and kept it moving. We got one message from someone going, holy shit, I have trichotillomania. Like no one's ever talked about it so casually and matter-of-factly without it being, like, this big thing. Thank you so much. Like, it was just amazing hearing you gloss over it.

Like, it wasn't a big deal. And then we got a message, how dare you talk about trichotillomania the way. And so that was the moment where I go, oh, you're not going to make everyone happy. Yeah. Sure. And I also, I'm not a Scott Peterson apologist,

but I don't think they had enough evidence to prove it was the Casey Anthony of it all they couldn't prove how, when, where you can't sentence someone to death, do I think he did it? yes, but in the court of law they had no evidence

and so people got mad there are other crime podcasts that are more matter of fact there is no opinion they're like this is what happened and i'll just be like these dumb bitches because the cops fuck up the cops fuck up so much i think what's always the investigations women will escape and be like i've been tortured in a basement and they'll be like you're a drunk whore and like more women or like of course but i also see like i mean jack stelaroso did you know her no she was a she was a comedian who who died uh not too long ago i saw this on from from apparently uh suicide at least that's what was was told and she had

and again this is all what what i've gathered from all this yeah they they gather that essentially she had uh some kind of uh mental something happening but she was active on twitter and she was saying that it was like her boyfriend was gonna track her down that her father was lawyer, her father had made other people disappear. Bottom line is, the consensus, or the public consensus, I keep looking at Paige like, save me, but the public consensus was that she had mental struggles, and she took her own life. But, of course, Twitter being Twitter, and looking at her feed was like, this is a grand conspiracy, her father did this, And other people were like, please

leave this family alone. But there was this thing of, listen, of course the cops get it. I'm not here to defend cops. I just go like these internet sleuths. It was like listening to Serial. People suddenly knows.

What was fun was the Don't Fuck With Cats. That documentary. It was the people that suddenly knows. No, we don't know, but what was fun was like the Don't Fuck With Cats, that documentary. It was the people that solved it. No, I think you can't accuse just random boyfriends and start stalking families and calling people. You have to respect victims. But we haven't figured out

at least the general code. We do reporting. I never do theories. It's reporting. So I'm reading credible sources. All of our sources are printed always. And then we try to like also highlight organizations that work on it. But like we do full, like our resources are transparent.

Conviction aside, do you think Anand did it? Serial? I never watched it. I never, I don't know about serial. You never did? No. Oh God. I didn't do that one.

But recently we had an episode air about this bike path rapist who's from Buffalo, and he ended up taking his own life in prison three days after our podcast episode aired, and a part of us is like, maybe someone told him. No. Maybe it was the pod.

No, we've learned a lot, and it's mostly unearthing so much injustice and crimes. There was one crime where a witness was like, it was like a 1995 Mercury, and they couldn't find it, and that was that. It was in 1994. Or Ed Kemper confessed, and the cops were like, ah, Ed. They knew Ed. Ed was a cop lover. They went to search his house, didn't even search it. He had guns up someone's head in the closet were like, oh, Ed. They knew Ed. Ed was a cop lover. They went to search his house,

didn't even search it. He had guns up someone's head in the closet. They didn't do anything. Also, we learn about all these people that get the system and then they convince psychologists at a young age and then they get released.

A lot of these criminals have petty crimes against women young, but we don't take them seriously enough. And so a lot of these mass shooters, or killers, if you go back, they were stalking at 15. They were doing weird shit. There's always history.

Is law and order... Sorry. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say, I feel like with all the new kind of fascination of true crime and docs and things like that, I feel like what's most interesting is like really looking at like the police work and what their function is because so often the,

the really what it is is they'd rather get an answer before the answer, like before the truth, like it's like more important for them to just solve it and then find the truth out. Like sometimes, sometimes it's just like, well we did everything. But you're like, huge things that you're missing or not even curious about looking into.

We just covered one. I don't even know if we released it yet. But so there's documentaries about it. And the SVU episode, Robin Williams plays this criminal. So that's really cool. And he's fantastic in it. But this guy, you might have even heard of him i feel like you're gonna like this but he would call fast food places and may and convince

the manager that one of his employees is stealing and they need to hold him in an office and then slowly they would sexually assault these young women, strip them naked. And this was all on camera. And they were doing it because a voice on the phone told them. Compliance. It was the cop. Compliance. Oh, there's a scripted movie too?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's based on that real life thing. So this motherfucker, what happens is you get there and the cops, they don't know what to do. And so one guy, one detective was like, fuck, this is my neighbor like i have to solve this and then one cop in boston got together no one else was really investigating and they couldn't get him because they finally got like evidence of him buying a calling card but you couldn't prove what calling card called so he got not guilty they could not get him but also all of these individual attacks these women got no justice. Yeah. And then, like, some were, like, charged and then got not guilty.

Like, because the jury felt bad for them because of the voice. And then one guy did go to prison for rape. But, like, all these cases, there was, like, 30-something spanning a decade, maybe even more. And no one put it together. The FBI didn't string it like all the different jurisdictions to like when you're across state lines and cross different things. It gets like they sometimes are like, oh, we don't share all that. There's not a national thing that we're sharing with everyone. So everyone has their own information, but it's not always shared. So it was wild.

But no one, no one, no one like these women's lives are forever changed assaulted as young teens no justice is law and order copaganda yeah okay so early on in our podcast we um got a bunch of one-star reviews and people diverted from us because we talk about how cops are fucked up and we're pretty mean about cops. Sure. And we talk about real stuff and the first crime we did was based on Leona Hemsley. I don't know if you remember her. She was like a New York real estate

who didn't pay her taxes or whatever. No, I don't remember. It was actually bullshit and Giuliani and Trump because Trump and Leona Hemsley were competitors in real estate and Giuliani like fucked Leona and charged Trump stuff. It goes back. But that was our first episode. So right away,

all the Trump people left and left awful reviews. And then all the people that love cops were pissed. And so we mostly just have a lot of listeners that are social workers, lawyers, teachers. But it is

Cop Ganda and I think a lot of people watch it and they think that are social workers, lawyers, teachers. But it is cop ganda, and I think a lot of people watch it, and they think that the cops are like Olivia Benson and Stabler, but it is a fantasy of the justice system. It is a place where women are listened to, crimes are solved. Even if you don't want to report it, she's going to sneak into your house,

get evidence, and she's going to do it. They are getting you counseling. So it's a fantasy. That's why so many women i think watch it it's a fantasy of the criminal justice system and how we deal with sexual assault cases you know the rape kits are tested in this episode in the show um but um they should just do an episode of the backlog they're just like holy shit and there is a back there's a of course of course of course there's some backlog episodes but you know i um back in college i like volunteered at a shelter and we got to know the sexual assault response team at the police station and they're like they do exist but it's rare and it's really a fantasy and i think that's why we love it but it is cop

ganda if you think that's how all cops are. But I think SVU in particular does a great job because they'll have the other departments be like, ah, the sex police are here. Or they'll be like, oh, that's not a person. That's a hooker. And then like the detectors will be like, you get out of my face, you know?

Or like other precincts aren't being helpful or like the, you know, like the drug unit, they have a long investigation and they want to shut down your rape investigation. They have to fight for it. So they do a good job of like showing how other cops are bozos, but yeah, it's fully cop ganda.

And if you're not a critical viewer at all, you're gonna, yeah, you're gonna hate our pod for sure because we do have opinion you know there are people that lean towards other crime podcasts

that are more matter of fact it is two people talking sure and we have opinions well let's go on to our next segment

speaking of opinions what the fuck is going on oh my god none of your buttons are working did I get too serious I mean

no no no. Please, we like to get serious. And are there ethical issues to what we do? Probably. But we try to raise money when there's time. We get involved. You've never had a psychic on to bring back the victims or anything like that? No, but we do our own research because some of our sex works are certain things we got blowback on.

So then we talk to a professor. Sure. We educate ourselves. Yeah, that's good. certain things we got blowback on so then we talked to a professor and then we educate ourselves. Or like for Plan during Roe v. Wade. It's happening. But when Roe v. Wade was about to be overturned

we had someone from Planned Parenthood come and talk. There's a few abortion episodes obviously. Well our next segment is called This Has Gotta Stop. Normally there's a cool sound cue. Paige do you want to segment is called This Has Gotta Stop. Normally, there's a cool sound cue. Paige, do you want to do it? This Has Gotta Stop. Yeah.

This Has Gotta Stop. This is where we talk about something that needs to stop. Something that needs to speak small, personal, large. Russell, do you have a This Has Gotta Stop? I do, but you're going to hate me because there's a qualifier to it because it's not really This Has Gotta Stop. It's more like i think this should stop as career advice for a certain for pink listen um pink does the aerials yeah it's very impressive

i think she should do something else with you guys because i see it online i'm not a fan of pink but like you know people share i think i had people recently at a pink concert that i follow they're sharing the aerials and you're like oh this has been going on for a long time it's very impressive like wow it's crazy only only person in the game doing it but i'm i have concerns for her that she needs something else like it's like it could be like the thing with what's that comedian that would smash the watermelon yeah like it's a little like that's gallagher you know i head now i think of pink i think of her flying everywhere and i'm like that feels stressful to be like how long can you do that for how long like how how many years are you worried about her joints or are you saying it's boring i'm saying i a lot of things. I'm saying I've seen it shared a lot.

I'm a little bored with it. That's one thing. But mainly I'm concerned for her as a, you just need a new gimmick, I think. You know what I mean? I agree. We haven't heard a splash from Pink in a while. And I think there's something surreal

about someone doing something like that and being like, ugh, this again. Well, you can kind of be like, it's so impressive that I think you that and being like, ugh, yes again. Well, you can kind of be like, it's so impressive that I think you can then be like, oh, I don't have to worry about making new music or doing-

Do you think she feels like she has to do it now? No, maybe, maybe. Because if I went to go see Pink and she did not fly through the air- That's a good point.

I would be livid. That's so true. That's actually very true. I would be livid. I guess I really hadn't thought of it. I hadn't thought of it as someone going to see it. Yeah, it would be livid. That's so true. That's actually very true. I would be livid. I guess I really hadn't thought of it. I hadn't thought of it as someone going to see it. Yeah, it would be like, get up in there, bitch. I was thinking of it as someone who sees it occasionally on Instagram.

It's like, okay, we get it. You fly. Can you imagine if you could do it as a stand-up comedian one day, and then you start a joke, and then you go flying into the air, and you keep telling it? That would be fun. Yeah. Are there any other female artists

that you have some notes about their performance career? No, I just felt, I feel bad, because I felt like, okay, she's on tour right now, she didn't get nearly as much attention as Beyonce

and Taylor Swift at the same time, and she's flying around, and I'm just like, so like, you know. I mean, that's what's crazy about our industry, it's like no matter how,

this bitch is selling out arenas, and it's still like, well, not, I'm not Taylor, you know crazy about our industry it's like no matter how this bitch is selling out arenas and it's still like well not I'm not Taylor you know it's like it's so hard to ever celebrate your success because Beyonce didn't even get enough attention that she deserved to be honest yeah I mean Taylor really dominated I mean Beyonce's still doing pretty well oh no she actually performs more often than Beyonce does Beyonce has made, her tour is making more money, made more money than Taylor,

but that's not what we're hearing. I'm sure. Sure. And I think it was purposely timed, the Travis, Kelsey, and Chelsea, because Beyonce's last show

was October 1st in Kansas City, but she was in New York at the Jets Chiefs game and all the news was about that and I think she did that on purpose so no one talked about Beyonce's tour. interesting you think they actually like each other um yeah because when Kanye did that thing at the VMAs do you know what I'm talking about with the yeah okay

yeah the biggest cultural moment of our entire lives yeah I'm familiar with it I thought you were like above the VMAs. I don't know. Not at all. Like Oscars or nothing. Beyonce, when she brought Taylor back on, was like, you know. But I think Taylor's competitive and likes to be number one. Do you think her and Travis are a real... I don't care, but I'm in it.

I love it. I love it. I love the way he looks at her, whether it's PR or not. I don't care if they're all gay, no one's gay. There was one video of him, and they're like, look how he looks at Taylor. And someone said, that's him looking at the playback of his play.

No, he said, damn, there she is. No. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No, I don't care if it's fake. I, like, love romance. No, I know that about you, Liza. You don't care if it's fake at all.

No, I love romance. I love the convertible. I love the vibe of it all, but I do think the NFL is probably paying her or they're trying to get more fans in. Something is up. They're using Welcome to

New York in the ads. I don't think those women are going to stick around when Taylor stops going, though. I don't think they're going to be like, oh, yeah, I really like football now. No, but what if they gave her $30 million to go to these games? And then she stays relevant still. Because she's now promoting

the 1989 re-release. And when she first did it, that was the bad blood, the friends, the supermodels. So she's recreating that. Well, the other thing I saw on Twitter was the conspiracy, or not, a theory that she supermodels, so she's like recreating that. Well, the other thing I saw on Twitter was the conspiracy, or not, you know, a theory that she

was doing it to get rid of the private jets Google. Taylor Swift goes to the jets game, so now when you search jets, Taylor Swift, instead of any story about private jets. She had to go to CVS. It was like a thing to erase that story from Google.

No chance. There's no chance. I love that. I love that. The only kind of proof around it is when she went to the other game, they didn't put the name of the team in the headline. For when it was the Jets, though, it was all Jets was in the headline. Anyways, it's a fun little theory.

PR is real. Yeah. And it's expensive. This kind of fits into my, this has got to stop. Uh, feel free to challenge it. Where is this? So you get these guest checks.

You steal it from the seller. Uh, no, someone gave it to me. No, I didn't steal it. Thank you. I like it as a notepad.

It's kind of fun. It reminds me of my youth. so mine is about the empire state building. So the, the empire state Building does, sometimes they change the colors for the things. And they recently did one specifically for Israel, the Israeli flag, the blue and the white. Three days prior, they did one for Taylor Swift and a picture ketchup and seemingly ranch and it's it was a photo that went viral because someone said here's taylor with ketchup and seemingly ranch

and i guess my feeling is you it's either a really important thing no but you know you can get an app like if you're a rich dude you could buy an app. Like, if you're a rich dude, you can buy an app and then you can be on a date with a girl and you can change the colors of the Empire State Building. I heard they got rid of that. Oh, they did?

Yeah. I was with someone who had done that. Yeah, I think they stopped it a couple years ago. I thought that would disgust you. Sorry to interrupt, but I thought you'd like to know that. Sure, okay. Well, if that, that blows through my whole thing.

But I think this was, they at least promoted it. And I think there's just a degree of like, this is kind of a little bit of a conservative take of like, it's either a meaningful thing or it's a super cutesy thing. But if they're right next to each other, it just feels like this is nothing. You can't go from talking about a gigantic global situation to ketchup and mustard then it's

not a thing they gotta light it up every day somehow you know they gotta put some color on it so sometimes there's not something sometimes it's death and destruction sometimes you know it's a little chicken finger sometimes it's a patty's day turn it green you know what i mean like what well like it just uh yeah it just i just think sometimes in in the pursuit of everything being like funny and kind of viral and kitschy you take away the meaning of it sometimes yeah no because i think people that if they you know i do feel like it's how i don't know i don't i don't think people i feel like that one thing i wouldn't have known what it was. Like the orange and white. You'd be like, what?

For example, to take an easier example, when they do it for Gay Pride Month, I think there's something about it that feels like, wow, a big public display of pride. And then when I see it used for ketchup and seemingly ranch, I go, you know what? It doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't mean anything.

They'll fucking put anything up there. I mean, Taylor is an ambassador of New York is she really? they made her one with her welcome to New York song I'm scared of how nothing against Taylor there's too much power there's too much power and it's kind of freaky

and I'm sure no even what I said now my life could be over I might not have said the right thing. If you don't think there's not going to be death threats and they're not going to comb our tweets, you're mistaken. Yeah. These Swifties, they're intense.

But I get it. I was a teen once. If you're an adult Swifty, you need help. But as a teen, I was really in love with the Backstreet Boys and I would kill for them, you know? Yeah. Like sometimes your hormones are wild and you're not getting fingered

and you have to put all your attention to the pop star you love. What's your This Has Got to Stop? Wait, I had another Taylor Swift thing to say. Please. My friend works at NYU and she's a part of graduation yeah and taylor did the commencement speech a couple years but it's all these grad students and she's talking like a

person who doesn't know life like she's like and don't let the haters get you down and it's like these are grad students like like what haters these are full adults taylor you know so it is fun it's kind of why i love watching celebrity family feud like the celebrities just like don't know they'll be like what's in an average person's living room and they'll be like a gold-plated shark like they don't know how to play and i really enjoy out of touch celebrity it really makes me happy anyone talks about a hater you're like i don't know what you're you're talking about. It's a bizarre concept to ever think about. That's something that you have advice on, a hater. I'm sure we have some downside haters.

Yeah, but I would never think, it would never be like, it's not, I don't know. Yeah, it's just when you talk about, talking about a hater is hard to talk about without feeling like you're self-aggrandizing. There's just a degree of like, it's the same way I don't like the word fans. There's just something, feels weird. It's gross. Yeah. What do you call your,

we call Debbie Downsiders. Listeners, Debbie Downsiders. I say murder girls, but, and then the people that are at the show, I don't know what I say, but fan is gross for sure.

It's like, it's weird. I go people that are obsessed with me. That's good. I can't get enough. God, which one do I do? What's got to stop? Do not ask me a question if you already know the thing.

I hate when someone goes, do you want to leave at 1 or 1.30? And then I'll say 1, and they'll go, I'm thinking 1.30. Just say you want to leave at fucking 1.30. I don't give a shit. You know what I mean? Do you want pizza or chai? If. Just say you want to leave at fucking 1.30. I don't give a shit. You know what I mean? Do you want pizza? If you know what you want, just tell me. So don't ask me a question of two options if you actually just want to do one of the options.

Sure. And that is something that bothers me. Who did this to you most recently? I have a friend that does this all the time. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's fine. I like her.

But she'll just be like, so do you think we should park or take a car or whatever? And I'll be like, oh, let's take a car. I was thinking we drive. And I'm like, then don't. I'm fine driving. I didn't even give a shit. You didn't even have to ask me. If you told me what we were doing, I would do it.

You know what I mean? I feel like it must be that they want something, but they're not fully committed. And they're hoping that you give them a final thing. And then when you don't, they go, well, fuck. Do you ever say the thing that they want? is it always maybe you always they do the opposite and you need to use that to your advantage you want chinese you say let's get pizza i know but another i want to do a few another one i have is stop acting like you have to go to weddings and then complaining about it oh i have to travel the. What do you mean I can't bring kids?

Just don't go. I love weddings. I will fly across an ocean. I will get dressed. I'll get my hair done. I like it. So I will never come. I love being included in people's love and events and I love seeing their family. I enjoy it. But if you don't, you don't have to go.

But to then complain about the oh, I have to spend on you don't have to. Oh, my New Year's is ruined, you don't have to go. But to then complain about the, oh, I have to spend on, you don't have to. Oh, my New Year's is ruined. You don't have to go. They would rather have people that want to spend New Year's with them. Sure. You know? It bothers me when people act like they have to do these things.

Yeah. There's a no on the check mark. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's a good one. Because I do think people, sometimes when there's a lack of conversation, it's an easy thing to go to, which is to complain about

that kind of thing. You know? Yeah, weddings are just a tough thing of like, I have some friends, our friend Chris, he has a lot of friends. And I think it's probably

tough for him because he wants to say yes to it all. And then suddenly he has six in a row. And he goes, my life is out of control. Yeah. But I tell him all the time, say no. There's a difference

though when you're genuinely like, it's frustrating but he still wants to go. Do you know what I mean? He's not like, well, that's going to That same thing is going to turn into funerals at a certain point. It'll be like, I gotta go here for the fucking funeral. No, before the

funeral, hopefully baby showers. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Sure. Or like graduating med school. I don't know how old we are, but. It's really sick.

And then my final one, stop calling people fat on the internet. We know we've gained weight. Like, I don't understand it. What do you want from me? Well, what is, what's your thinking's your thinking it's like out of control and it's usually for every video there check your diabetes i do i have an under i have a thyroid problem i go to my endocrinologist my blood work is done i've i or like i just i'm doing a joke about something random and then it's thousand comments about my weight and i'm like get a life it's insane

we've had russell's been out because of the show and we've had some female co-hosts and until you post a video like from your own account with a woman featured you really witness like the comments and you're like this is fucking not that not that i'm like oh women have a tough thing internet but really when it's like it's something you posted and you get an email every time there's a comment you're like Jesus Christ

what is wrong I would rather people threaten my safety stop it I can't I just can't anymore because I love the internet and you're making it

a place where you know it's just you're getting notifications and it's like okay I don't know how you all I know is like one time someone you know, it's just, you're getting notifications and it's like, okay.

I don't know how, all I know is like one time someone in a pose I had, they said I had a muffin top and I spiraled for weeks. And I don't, sometimes I'm like, I think guys just have to have a taste of it. Not that I was doing fat comments

before that. You know what? No more, no more commenting on Lisa's videos. I'm a sicko. So like, most people have private accounts and that sucks but if you don't yeah i'll find a photo of your daughter your mother your passion and i will write what i i think yeah yeah yeah good for you i'll just make ew your mom's gross or i'll be like i'll it'll be someone playing the guitar i'll be like you should quit you're the worst you know like, like, I'll just do it back.

Usually, I mean, that's what they want. They want his attention. So I'm, like, feeding into it in a way that's stupid for me. And a time suck. And I should get a life, read a book, ride a bike. I'll do that sometimes. Go to the gym. I'll do that sometimes.

And then I delete it 10 seconds later. Like, I go through the, and it's not, they usually go, like, this joke sucks. And then I'll find their account with eight views on some video. I'm like, well, this sucks. One guy recently, I looked, I had all of these notifications for reposting of my clip. So I looked and it was just this one guy with 30 followers,

but like under my clip, just writing this month, like a paragraph of what, what's wrong with me. And there was like five in a row. Oh my God. And I'm just like, what do you want from me?

Or I, or what do you think they will? What? My dad, whenever he felt insecure about his weight, he would say something about like a woman's weight on TV. And, and I,

and my dad was in there and I just like, I just couldn't understand. Our dads should hang out. Sure. Yeah. I think our dads would have a great time. Use a friend. Please. All dads I think our dads would have a great time. Listen, my dad could use a friend. Please.

All dads need friends. They don't all have friends. I'm shocked. My dad has two best friends, and I'm like, God bless. I'm like, this is wild that you're friends with this man. That could be fun, trapping your dad with other dads. My dad was talking to his friend, who is one of the top leading fertility specialists in the country like he travels he does in vitro for people like this kind of best friends with my dirtbag dad

and um my dad one time was on the phone with him called him and it was in russian but he goes you little it's like you little girl idiot uh-huh he's like i told you my daughter's here, you little girl idiot. And like hangs up on this doctor who keeps just being like, hi. I'm like, what does this doctor get from my father? But I think our dads would have fun. Sure. All of my friends' dads are such alcoholic dirtbags. It's like you all got to, they all got to get together. Yeah.

Yeah, they, because my dad tries. Well, my dad's not vaxxed, so we need to get tested before, too. But they believe in it. God. Wow. They believe in it. They wear masks. They do the thing.

My dad had heart surgery during the pandemic. My dad had a quintuple bypass, too. And he just was scared. And my mom kind of does whatever my father does. Very traditional gender roles in my home. My dad got vaccinated, but he was very scared after his quintuple bypass, which was in 2020. He was even more scared about the clot

stuff. But they wear masks, which is a blessing, at least. They don't think it's fake, which is nice, but they are not vaxxed. And that is hard. We can never take them anywhere again. No. These days, you never take them anywhere again. No.

These days, you can take them. People are all doing it. No, I don't want my parents. I care about their safety. Oh, your parents. I mean, look, again, if you want to figure out a way to get out of weddings, easy, not vaxxed.

Wait, so what would your dad say? Because it's like, fine, if you want to fuck with rosie o'donnell okay but then they'll fuck with i i also think that's bad like leave me alone i've gained some weight but like padma lakshmi one of the most beautiful women in the world had a sports and someone wrote to her like you should work out your arms more and it's like padma like are you fucking kidding me or there's a pornstorm obsessed'm obsessed with, Keisha Gray, one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. And it's like, I liked you better.

You're gaining what you're doing. And it's like, they're doing it to the top tier looking women too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's how you know that it's so detached from any facts on the ground. My dad, we would watch a show called So You Think You Can Dance. It's a really good show. And one of the judges was a woman who had spunk and was like,

she was like, woo! And she would get emotional and all worked up. And my dad would just always just like, look at that lady over there. And you're like, what is, who is this for? What is he getting out of it? And I'm sure when I'm there he's trying to relate to me somehow.

But my sister would be there too. And... Yeah. I remember an uncle one time getting so mad about Rosie O'Donnell being in the Flintstones movie. And being...

Who was she? I remember being a kid and being like, why is he so mad about she was Betty Rubble and I was like that's not how Betty Rubble looked. You know like

that classic thing of like I don't want to jerk like they were jerking off to like Betty Rubble like the cartoon you know but like and Rosie O'Donnell was playing and they were so mad about it

and I just remember like that stuck in my head as being a kid like wow. You know the bottom line of it is that these men they want to stay in power in the patriarchy. And the moment that it seems like a woman is not tailoring herself to all of their needs,

that's a sign that's indicative of the power hold being a little bit loosened. And I think that's the deeper underneath like, uh-oh. People aren't doing everything for my desires. That means my whole world is collapsing. Yeah. And they're jealous. They want to do clips on the internet. They want to cut clips.

My dad thinks he can dance. I want to do a dad thing too like you guys did. I remember so vividly Helen Hunt won the Oscar over Kate Winslet one year and my dad was livid that a flat chested bitch won an award. He was like, look at her tits and her tits. I can't believe they gave it to this

small titted woman. I just love the Oscar voting academy. So whose tits are bigger? You can't say that part out loud, Frank. It is wild. Dads are just the same. But yeah, I'm just sick of it. I want to have a good time on the internet.

Call me a dumb bitch. But like, I just just can't and it's because on my page if you don't follow me you can't comment but it's the collabs it's the seller collabs it's the don't tell collabs that's when i get the influx for weeks weeks months yeah she's she's working with don't tell it's not their fault i told them i'm like um because i have words, too. Like, if you use certain words, it won't come up on my page. And I'm like, can you just hide, like, fat pig bitch? Like, can you just, like, get that? Can that be one of the hidden words? And they're like, we don't nearly have the manpower.

No, what they said, they go, oh, my God, we have a bunch of them hidden. And then they looked and they go, oh, my God. Are you comment deleting for them? No, I'm not the social media manager. No, they were very nice. He was like, oh, geez, we have a bunch of them hidden, but this is.

But you're right. You end up cultivating your fan base on all the social media platforms and you forget, or like it becomes nice and then someone shares a video and you're like, oh shit, I didn't know that I had this wall.

And sometimes it's like, I know I'm killing it. Like my, this is not happening on YouTube, I think is amazing. It's about my arrests. And like, I know it's good. At the end of the day, I was also in that room. I did great.

And then someone wrote to me and they go, I love that video. I'm so sorry about the comments. Fuck those people. I'm like, I didn't read the comments, but thank you, sir. And then Ari goes, oh yeah, they're bad. They hated you. And'm like, I didn't read the comments, but thank you, sir. And then Ari goes, oh yeah,

they're bad. They hated you. And I go, for what? I killed it. I'm like, your hero couldn't even follow me that night. After you went on for Broadway,

I don't know if I almost regretted it. I Googled his name. I want to see if anyone just wrote anything. And you know, there's a Reddit and people were fawning all over you. And I sent, I sent it to him, but then I was worried.

I didn't look through the whole Reddit, I didn't know if there was another Reddit thread that said, fuck this Josh Gad fucking wannabe. I was nervous, but it was like the only negative things on there are like people that are like, I shouldn't have to pay to see an understudy. Like it was outside of my performance.

It was like the argument that like, you know. So you didn't see the one that was titled, we had to see this fat pig bitch play Josh Gad's role today. See this fat pig bitch. performance. It was like the argument that like, you know. So you didn't see the one that was titled, We Had to See This Fat Pig Bitch by Josh Katz. See this fat pig bitch. Well, that's amazing that the reviews on Reddit were good. Yeah, I mean, I looked at what you said and then I haven't checked since because I was like,

oh, it was all good, great. I don't want to know anything else. Yeah, was it good? Did you like that? When I sent it, I was like, oh, don't put his mind there. No, I was curious and I was glad to see that it was good and I looked and I was like, oh, don't put his mind there. No, I was curious, and I was glad to see that it was good, and I looked, and I was like, oh, good, it's good. I checked the screenshot neurotically, read it three times to make sure there wasn't one cutoff.

This was the worst thing we've ever seen. Wait, and how do you get paid? Do you get paid for all the rehearsal time, or is it just per performance or hourly? I have to go to the show every day. It's a weekly salary. Oh, you go to the show every day? Yeah, because it's your standby in case something happens.

There's a tiny cameo part at the end of the show that I also sometimes do when they don't have a celebrity. Whoa, I didn't know that. So you're there. Yeah, yeah. Because I know the Alphaba understudies always have to have the green paint and green nails. And then all the Alphabas need green nail polish at all times.

No, I don't have any. That's not, you know. I wonder if the Shrek, when they did Shrek, if they had to do the full costume. Theater is insane. Now we did full circle. This will be a perfect little moment. But theater is insane. I was going to press the button.

Doesn't have it. Let's see what it is. Is there another segment? It's the blessing. Doesn't have it. Let's see what it is. Is there another segment? It's the blessing. It's the blessing. You better count your blessing. This is where we say something we're thankful for. Russell, you got it.

Yeah, my obvious one. You know, everyone has been so sweet. The friends that were scrambling to get there, it meant so much to me that they all, you know, came within an hour and a half notice to make it happen. And truly, everyone at the theater, it was so nice. You're coming down to go on stage and the crew, they're all there. They're cheering on.

It just was a very moving weekend. And especially, I'm just very thankful for Andrew Reynolds. It was really a special experience for me to have that be my first time. And to feel like he was so supportive and so loving and so like, like present and, and fun. And so I felt like I'm just, I feel very fortunate,

very blessed. And then did you go out after? I, I didn't, but I i i kind of i celebrated last night i went out he also he had to go to this next show that it was a matinee so he had the oh yeah i had the night show right after i did not know that was part of the gig yeah no yeah you're like full-time you're just like oh you're getting paid oh amazing yeah uh my blessing is uh i was performing in Dubuque, Iowa

That's not the blessing There was a bowling alley above me But An old college Friend, musical theater Conservatory, was my roommate for a year His parents came to the show They live in Dubuque, Iowa

And it was There's always something so special where these are parents who are like, I've seen them maybe three times in my entire life, but they saw me in college doing a musical. And it was very cool. Some people, when they come and see you, you're like, that's so sweet

that you would come to see me below this bowling alley. What else are they going to do in Dubuque? Sure, sure. You're a blessing. You're the blessing for them. That's what they say whenever you're there. I'm always like, thank you for coming. They're like, thank you for coming here.

And you know what? Given that the airport was an hour, 15 minutes away, yeah. So my blessing is on behalf of Dubuque, and it's for me. Yeah. But it was so nice to see his parents. And yeah, that's my blessing. What's your blessing? That's so cute.

I was thinking of, all of yours are performance based. So I was going to do a blessing to my new Nintendo Switch, but you know, that seems, I've been playing Mario. I'm going to, I'm going to beat the game that I couldn't beat as a child. Of course.

I watched it on an airplane. I was like, wow, they pulled it off. It was fun. It was cute. One of my friends goes, that's for babies.

And I go, yeah, I guess it's not for adult, but it's fun. I liked the coins. I like the inside jokes of my childhood. So yeah, now I'm playing Mario and it's really fun. But I saw Incubus at the Hollywood Bowl this week. So that'll be my blessing.

I had a great time. They did the Morning View album in its entirety and then did all these hits. Classic. It was awesome. And I ran into a friend from high school, but his voice is beautiful. And he's beautiful. Brandon void.

Yeah. He took off his shirt for the hits. Um, that sounds like such an insane show. It was, I mean, I was like, um,

it was special. It was special. It was like reliving my youth, but he sounds so good. And I was like, it was special. It was special. It was like reliving my youth, but he sounds so good. And it was like, everyone was dressed like they were dressed 20 years ago, listening to them. Like, it was just like, I have a Red Hot Chili Pepper tattoo and let's just say it fit right in.

You know, like it was a lot of Deftones outfits. It was a lot of, it was, yeah, like emo people. It was really fun. And the Hollywood bowl is really beautiful and i just and lizzo came out with her flute and um yeah lizzo's a giant incubus fan wow yeah and so she posted the crowd go wild or was some of the crowd like oh no more wild than probably for incubus i would say we were like kind of too mature of a crowd i was like we're kind of quiet but um uh yeah no she posted that 20 years ago she went to the Morning View tour.

Wow. And then in parentheses she goes, but I've been a fan since the Science album. But she was dancing the whole time. Like, she was at the show and then went up and played the flute for one of the songs. I love that. And it was cool. I saw Death Cab Acuity. Was that the 20th anniversary of that album?

I'm not a Death Cab person so much as I am a service. It was like the 25th anniversary. It's like it's that era of like 20s. We're in the 20 anniversary of like. I know it's humiliating. The only other time I've been to the Hollywood Bowl was last summer to see the Backstreet Boys. It's like, can I get new taste? Can I get a new interest?

Can I get anything new in my life? What I'm going to see is if NSYNC goes on tour, as is rumored, I'm going to see that.street Boys, it's like, can I get new taste? Can I get a new interest? Can I get anything new in my life? What I'm gonna see is if NSYNC goes on tour, as is rumored, I'm gonna see that. I would go. I'm gonna see that 100%. They're not gonna be as good as Backstreet, but I would go. Really?

Yeah, because Backstreet never took a break. They've been working. They've been on tour all this time, doing cruises, performing for their people, putting out new albums. These people, they gotta get in shape. people, they got to get in shape. Sure. They got to get ready to tour.

They don't jump for the bye-bye-byes anymore. It's just. But I told my mom, I was like, the Backstreet's, they're in such good shape. They hit every dance move, everything. She's like, they're young because she's in her 70s. They're 40. They should be dancing.

She's like, I gave birth to you in my 40s. But yeah, seeing Incubus and his beautiful voice. And he did my favorite thing of a musician, they're 40 they should be dancing she's like i gave birth to you in my 40s uh but yeah seeing incubus and his beautiful voice and he did my favorite thing of a musician which is not talk too much no histories of the song no little jokes just thank you what a cool night and sang the next song love it yeah i don't need a tale yeah maybe from share but that's it um so this is coming out uh what is it again page october 24th october 24th uh what would you like to plug so my podcast is that's messed up an svu podcast and we are on the road through the fall into december we're in new york we just added a second show at city winery it's in december. Park West we're doing in Chicago November 5th.

And then all of Midwest. Milwaukee, Madison, Detroit. We'll be in Cleveland. We're doing it all. So check out our Instagram. You know how to do the internet. That's another one. Another complaining. If I want to buy a ticket, I look for it. Why do I need to add the link

and the thing? I just don't know. I don't know. Sure. I usually think, sometimes I always say that stuff, but I'm like, oh, they'll find it if they want it. I don't need to go link in bio. They'll Google it. No, they won't. Really? They'll write you a message going, how do I get a ticket?

But, sorry, no. You can message me. We would love for you to come. I didn't take it. Anyways, I'm message me. We would love, we would love for you to come. I didn't take it. Anyways, I'm so thankful. But we're in Pittsburgh. But we're in Pittsburgh this week, so we're doing the pod

and then I'm doing stand-up the 27th and 28th. So this week, I'm in Pittsburgh. I'm doing stand-up in LA at the Dynasty Typewriter, I think November 2nd. I'm out. I'm out and about.

I'm out and about. We'll put all the links in the things. Russell, do you have plans of when you're going to spike Josh Gav's drink again? No, I don't have anything. And I'm glitter cheese on the internet. So it's glitter cheese and that's messed up. Thank you for letting me

be on this. Oh my god, yeah. And you know what my big pet peeve is? Too short of podcasts. Now podcasts are like 45 minutes and you gotta get out of there. Thank you. You really allowed me to talk for a long time and I needed that. I was so happy. Do you guys fight about that?

We do. I'm always like 90 minutes cut off. He's like, we could go two hours, we could go two and a half. Yeah. Do you know when our Uncle Function show is? I know you can't do it.

I'm not even on it. I know. I'm just asking if you know. It's in November. It's New York Comedy Fest. Look it up our Uncle Function show is? I know you can't do it. I'm not even on it. I know. I'm just asking if you know. It's in November. It's near Comedy Fest. Look it up. Uncle Function. Early November.

So I don't know that. Other than that. You just said they won't look it up. I know, but they will maybe. We're talking right now, but it's like you got to go to the Insta. Websites are over. It's just like you really have to. The way I found out about Incubus is I saw a billboard and I went yes

and I bought a ticket we need a billboard so it's going to function early November near Comedy Fest at Russell J Daniels on Instagram and you know you can come see Gutenberg the musical on Broadway I most likely won't be in it but I'm there 8 times a week

but where do you sit? you're in the back in the mezzanine well You're in the back, in the mezzanine. Well, I'm either in the back in the mezzanine watching, or I... Would it be weird if a Debbie Downsider comes up to you in the back and goes, Hey? No, yeah, you can send me a message on there,

and I'll come say hi. So do you watch it intensely, or are you sometimes zoning off? It's early enough where I'm usually watching it for specific reasons, for specific moments of like, Wait, when does he put this thing here? You're always whispering like,

this is how I would do it. No, no, no. But I'm starting to now, like I can't watch it every day now. I'm starting to be like, okay, I'll watch like the first act, go sit in the dressing room for the second act, or you know,

so now it's just more chill hanging out. I've never, yeah, this is cool. I've never met someone who does that job. I've never done it before, so it's like, you know, so I'm, now it's just more chill hanging out. I've never, yeah, this is cool. I've never met someone who does that job. I mean, I've never done it before, so it's like, you know, figuring it out. But I feel a lot more relaxed that now it's happened. So, like, the worst case thing, you know. And you were in the hit musical, Titanic. I mean, you've had a year.

It's been a year. It's been a year, a wild year. And this podcast. And you have a YouTube plaque. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we got the $500,000. We didn't even get the plaque yet. Oh, yeah. Wait, you have a youtube plaque yeah yeah and we got to 500,000 we didn't even get the plaque oh yeah wait you have 500,000 yeah but it's just through the shorts wow it's i know i'm i'm starting to do sure i watch shorts and it is a battleground yeah they are trying to

it's all right wing stuff and i'm all I go on is to watch drag race stuff. So to me, I'm like, why are you doing this? I'm constantly having to be like, no Ben Shapiro. Thank you. No women swimming. And they won't listen. That's the thing with Twitter right now. I'm like, how is it possible that I'm getting Jordan Peterson talking about a trans thing?

I could not be like, it's nuts. He's wearing a Little Shop of Horrors t-shirt. He's for the trans thing. I could not be like, it's nuts. He's wearing a Little Shop of Horrors t-shirt. Yeah. He's for the trans community. I want more AI. What color is the half million going to be? I don't know. I'm sure it's a bronze.

That's so cool. Thank you. I will be in Italy. These might have sold out by now, but Milan, November 1st. London, November 2nd through 5th. We added official, maybe added sold out by now But Milan November 1st London November 2nd through 5th We added official Maybe added this 6 by now

And then You know I got fucking What is this? Berlin November 7th Amsterdam November 8th And Paris November 9th If I come back with bed bugs I will be fucking pissed

I will I'm gonna be I'm not touching anything for that trip i've seen these videos i cannot come back but you know you know how to check now you'll check the mattress i'll check you'll do it yeah yeah yeah and then november 10th hopefully i will be watching anthony jeselnik at carnegie hall that's my treat for that brutal tour uh uh page where can people find love that it's a brutal tour in Italy. It's like I land,

I'll do the show, and then I've got to go back to the airport to make sure. If something goes wrong at one of these airports, it's over. It's just tight. It's stupid. You could take a train. Maybe. I already booked the flights, Paige.

I know, but I'm saying there's a backup in Europe. Sure, sure, sure. Paige is a problem solver. Don't tell. Paige just helped with Don't Tell's first New York shoot. Yeah, we had a weekend of, I think, 20 comics total filming the sets. So those will be coming out probably in two months or so.

So go check out. Lisa and I did the one together in LA and I was so chill and cool and fun and was it not fun? he was just doing full on reenactments in the back

room like he swung his arms around a lot off stage and Lisa she shows up, this Lee, she goes like, oh we're filming this one? And if there's any spirits out there, please subscribe to Spotify so we can get these fucking listens.

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