The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi - #216 Washing Feet with Chloe Troast

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

Comedian Chloe Troast (SNL) joins to discuss the downsides of fireworks on the 4th of July, getting called a Jim-Carrey-ass-lookin-motherf**ker, writing banger sketches at 1 am, joining the theater pr...ogram at an all boys Catholic school, and why faux sincerity on the streets of NYC has got to stop.  You can watch full video of this episode HERE! Join the Patreon free for 7 days for ad-free episodes, exclusive content, and MORE. Follow Chloe on Instagram & TikTok See Chloe in a city near you: https://linktr.ee/CT_UpcomingShows Or follow Chloe's mom on YouTube Follow The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram Get tickets to our live podcast tour! July 23 | Washington DC: https://www.dccomedyloft.com/shows/266932 July 24 | Boston: https://thewilbur.com/deep-cuts/artist/downside-podcast/ July 25 | Philadelphia: https://link.dice.fm/DSG_UA24 July 26 | NYC: https://citywinery.com/new-york-city/events/downside-podcast-live-gywjza Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, & YouTube Subscribe to Gianmarco Soresi's email & texting lists Check out Gianmarco Soresi's bi-monthly show in NYC Get tickets to see Gianmarco Soresi in a city near you Watch Gianmarco Soresi's special "Shelf Life" on Amazon Follow Russell Daniels on Twitter & Instagram E-mail the show at TheDownsideWGS@gmail.com Produced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco Soresi Video edited by Dave Columbo Technical production by Chris Mueller Special Thanks Tovah Silbermann Original music by Douglas Goodhart Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:08 There was a comic I saw from way back. We did roast battles together. We don't see each other very much. Yeah. And I was going to the laundromat, and first she said, whoa, you look a lot better without your glasses. And I was like, okay, well, I just left them at home. They're a pretty permanent fixture. You wear them a lot. And then I swear, okay, well, I just left them at home. Like they're, they're pretty permanent.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And then she, I swear immediately she went, wow, gray in your beard. What's up with that? Okay. What's up with that? What's up with that?
Starting point is 00:01:35 My body is, is getting worse and I'm olding, olding. It was, it was incredible to be like nagged twice so quickly right out the gate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Like immediate. And I was immediately like i don't i don't have the heart to say anything that's not me yeah but it really was rude it really like it hit right up against my oh yeah i had a boss one time on zoom be like oh getting some gray and you know and i was like oh it is jarring because you're like what what purpose does it serve because you're like also i have a mirror like i can see that i get gray in my beard like it's like a weird thing i have once i told you once on on instagram someone commented they said gray in beard ew and i was like oh my god this is the worst anyone's ever been bullied on the internet
Starting point is 00:02:20 in the history of time yeah but whenever anyone says says something mean, I hate the impulse to look at their profile and be like, I want to know more about their life. Because why? What's that impulse? Do you know what I mean? But I always do it. They suck too. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:35 By the way, we're here with Chloe Trost. You can talk for this part. I'm sorry. I know. I was just laughing. Oh, good. That's fine too. Put that laugh right up to the mic so they can tell we're killing. Just a whole episode of you just laughing. Oh, good. That's fine, too. I don't need to talk. Put that laugh right up to the mic so they can tell we're killing.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's a whole episode of you just laughing and not contributing. That's so good. Yeah, you always look. Someone commented. I'm sorry. I know this shouldn't be the common thing, but I posted a montage of downside clips. And they said, I bought tickets to your comedy show in Portland. It's going to be my first comedy show, but based on these clips, it's probably your first, too. Ha, ha, ha, ha. What? And I said, I bought tickets to your comedy show in Portland. It's going to be my first comedy show, but based on these clips, it's probably your first too.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Ha ha ha ha. What? And I said, what the? I don't understand. I was more confused. You bought tickets to the show nonetheless? Yeah. Also, we're not doing stand-up right now.
Starting point is 00:03:16 This is a different thing. It's a different medium. It was hard because I'm not in a place to turn down anyone coming to those Portland shows. Yeah. If I was, I would say, well, don't come then. Yeah. But I need these sales right now. I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah. I need a Portland sales. Yeah. I need Portland sales for the end of the summer. Big time. Oh, you have a show in Portland. Yeah. You're touring.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Is it, is this your first, like, is this your biggest tour? Your biggest on the road? I would say the biggest and absolutely the first. Yeah. Did it feel good?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Is it fun? Yeah, it is really fun. I'm doing something that's really like not financially helpful, which is. SNL, we know. Right. Yes. Yes. Which is go on tour for two days of the week and then come back.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And then another weekend. That's how I do it. Okay. That's how it always is. I mean, some people do that one, one, one, one, one, which I guess you can. You can just make it a whole stretch, but that's tough. Nobody does that. It depends what you want.
Starting point is 00:04:21 No people do it. It's just like, you know, I need to recoup. I need to write down some notes. Yeah. Jeffrey Asmus, I admire. I mean, he's just doing one after the other. But I swear he's going to die sooner than me because of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So it depends when you want to die. Right. Not for a while. Yeah? Yeah. In your mind, are you like, because I'm like never. But some people are like, well, in my 70s, I'd be fine. I know I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:04:47 And I know that I'm going to get to the point where I say I can't wait. Really? Yeah. You want to hear a dark story? Yeah. This is a Russell story. Oh, God. You had a friend who was a nurse.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. Oh, no, I know. She said, a lot of old people, they go, I'm ready to go. And she said, lot of old people they go i'm ready to go and she said when the time comes they're never ready to go i think about it every day i think about it every day i will have to say and this got dark really quick but um this is the downside yeah yeah this is right is that my my grandmother passed away a couple years ago sharp as a tack until she was 92 and you know the whole her whole life just sharp all the way there knew that she was gonna die was aware we couldn't like really go into the room because it was covid she wasn't didn't die of covid
Starting point is 00:05:41 but it was like we had to talk to her through glass and it was just so depressing. And then I was thinking like I don't want to be all there by the end. Yeah, I just saw a clip of Dick Van Dyke at 98 and he was like
Starting point is 00:05:58 I mean his 98 is a lot better than Biden's 81. I will say. Sure, sure. He's like,'s like, boop, boop, boop. It's just like, wow, that guy's like. But yeah, you're right. Because if you're fully aware, present thing, it makes it. I don't know if it makes it worse for you. I'm sure it does.
Starting point is 00:06:18 But it also makes it worse for everyone around you. Because they're like, oh, man. You want to be old enough that when you see the light, you're not constantly going to be like, oh, that's just the hospital light. Yeah. You want to be like, and there's Jesus. Yeah, there I go. And he's cool that I didn't pray at all until just now.
Starting point is 00:06:34 There's something you want out of like, you definitely want to be able to say she was ready to go. She was fully cooked. Yeah. Whereas like there's another version of it where they're just pleading not to oh my god this is so mortifying um but i i on a similar note i did i did watch a man like essentially collapse of drugs outside of the nft gallery just now really oh really yeah i believe. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Is he doing okay? I was running late. You... There were police around. I saw they had just arrested someone nearby. Every time Russell's like, you could make up a lie, you're like, the trains. You could have said, I saw a collapsed van. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I remember
Starting point is 00:07:21 coming to New York, probably when I was in high school, I'd come up on the summers with my dad and we saw a guy in Washington Square Park with crows like walking on him. And I was like, oh my God, he's just a dead man. And then we got close and he was breathing. I was like, oh, he'll be okay. I do have to say your street right here is like the most like, I feel like the old version of New York where i feel like the old version of new york where i
Starting point is 00:07:47 like the rent version of new york yeah like where i'm like oh wow there's some stuff happening i'm this little strip right here yeah yeah you know just from the train here uh where i don't get to see all that all the time and you know where i live like way up you know new york keeps you humble it does i mean you understand how the world works. You see every class of person in New York. In a block. And especially this block. I mean, it really was,
Starting point is 00:08:15 it was a moment seeing that person collapse in front of the NFT gallery. And also, let's highlight. Really hammer in what the city is about. An NFT gallery. Yes. No, that's what I'm saying. An NFT gallery. It's so. It's like, it's an oxymoron right is that yeah the word sure i'm looking for yeah i still don't really
Starting point is 00:08:32 understand nfts but we don't no one explains me do you know what i mean like i'm not asking for anyone to explain it to me but i don't fully get it but don't explain it to me. This is The Downside. You're listening to The Downside. The Downside. With Gianmarco Ceresi. Welcome to The Downside. This is a place where we talk about cancel culture. Has it gone too far? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And I really, this is, I love a Norm Macdonald show he would have his like co-host would ask people he'd say hey so I want to ask you a question I've been thinking about this a lot David Letterman where do you get your ideas from and I just love the idea of a question that people just go like
Starting point is 00:09:19 what the fuck are you doing right now so for those of you listening for the first time, just because Chloe's here, this is a place where we complain, get negative, don't have to pretend everything's going right. It's going wrong. It's going wrong. I'm sure we will experience some form of civil war
Starting point is 00:09:36 in our lifetimes. And that's why we're cranking out these episodes before that happens. Oh my God. But we can still record during the civil war, I think. I mean, we'll be on the same side. Not our editors. Our editors are going to be on the other side? Editors. The podcast will just be a lot longer.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yes. It would be funny if editors are like farmers where it's like, oh, listen, you want your podcast edited? You got to support Trump. If you're a fan of the show, join the Patreon. Patreon.com slash downside. Bonus episodes are live episodes.
Starting point is 00:10:10 We're going on tour. My comedy special, The Rats Are In Me. When does this come out? Patreon.com slash downside. This episode is coming out July 2nd. Okay, you still have time to get our tour tickets. And fireworks for the 4th. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yes. Yes. You, you do like to do the fourth. Are you American flag shirt? I'm more there for the vibes. Yeah. For barbecue bikinis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Who's not there for the vibes on July 4th. You know? Sure. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm a little tired of fireworks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I've really, I've truly lived them out. I think going for going to like watch fireworks. I've really, I've truly lived them out. I think going for, going to like watch fireworks, I don't know what, I would never do that. But if I'm at a place, like if I'm on a rooftop and there happens to be fireworks,
Starting point is 00:10:53 I think that's nice. I think small fireworks are so much more fun. When I was a kid, West, I lived in Maryland, West Virginia. It was legal. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And like, those are really cool. You put them in your backyard and it's just, they have all different kinds and they're different. Oh, I don't want to be anywhere near them. I set off, we set off, uh, I, we, I was no part of this really, but, uh, for New Year's Eve, New Year's, the party, the big party New Year's Eve. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah. You guys didn't really react. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been to one. Yeah. Yeah. You guys didn't really react. Yeah. Yeah. I've been to one. Yeah. My, my, um, someone brought crazy fireworks and set them off like on top of the apartment, like on the roof that we were all at like 10 feet away from all of us. Oh, that's scary on a roof.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Totally, totally freaky, scary, like, like completely dangerous. I don't even know, if I could get in trouble for saying that I was a part of that. I think you're okay. But I think I had an experience once too at a July 4th lake party where they were setting them off down the thing and the thing tipped over. And it was like a hill. We were all watching and it tipped over. So they were firing into the crowd of people and it was a mass of people screaming running crying children everywhere
Starting point is 00:12:10 and just like sparks going everywhere it was so scary they hurt no one got hurt seriously but it was scary i mean the thing it was like one set of things so it happened and then it was done have you ever seen a fire when a fireworks warehouse catches on fire and it's a big explosion? It's very cool. You've seen that? Yeah. Not in person. Like there's a video.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You've sought it out. Like CCTV. Like you kind of see it. Oh, but that's all in black and white. Sure. Well, let's make it happen. I want to see all the colors of the fireworks go off. But my dad, he worked, my dad worked in a shock trauma unit.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So he was there every time. Oh my God. He like, he like did it probably when he was like 21, 22. But told the stories for years and years and years. It sounds very, very traumatic. Yeah. He talked about a lot of people coming in with no hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 My brother almost lost his hand in the firework. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It did the same thing. The firework went the opposite way. Like, you know, it's supposed to go this way and then it actually went out here oh my god and but my my older brother is definitely the kind that's like that was awesome you know like the thrill is all is that's what it's all
Starting point is 00:13:18 about yeah the near death yeah yeah not me keep them away from me chloe when i was when i went to look you up uh you're on youtube uh i believe it's your mom has posted a lot of your theater shows yeah we have quite a lot not figured out how to take that down i mean almost the full production of peter pan is up there i would never think to go to YouTube to look someone up. You've never looked up a guest in your entire goddamn life. I'm not interested in your research perspective. I just think that's incredible. I would never think that's where I would look her up. Well, you never know where people are going to express the most truthfulness about this.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Sometimes people do it on podcasts. Sometimes people do it through stand-ups. Sometimes people do it through tweets. I see. I see. You know? Yeah. I went way back in the tweet vault.
Starting point is 00:14:04 For me? Yeah. No. You stopped stopped tweeting in 2023 i know that for sure you could see the real person before they before they learned how to like hide the things and not express all the opinions hey you gotta i think you had one tweet that said i washed my feet and come you know they had something and not not that far back i thought you're gonna do a bit oh my god i washed my feet in cum period uh maybe exclamation point i'm not sure i want to make sure that i'm right i washed my feet in cum that's why they're yeah yeah um well Well, it's not easy to find.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Do you remember your handle? Yeah, at French Trost. At French Trost. So you're a real theater kid. Yeah. You got to watch this Peter Pan. It's so funny because they all have the strings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Oh, you flew. Oh, they flew. Were you Peter Pan? Peter Pan. Of course. You got a voice uh and it's like it's cool the first time and then everyone it's just you know the range of motion is just gonna be kind of like this i mean you go back down and then they all do it oh yeah that's for uh what was that middle school um it was a children's theater group so it the saddle river youth theater and um and for some reason the saddle river youth theater was in allendale
Starting point is 00:15:30 not in saddle river can't explain that but um they had yeah they got they got there's a place that you rent and you rent the people too who'd rig it yeah you rent the people and the cables, and you get strapped up. I mean, it is really barbaric. Like, it might look... No, it doesn't even look good. It looks fine. We're flying. Yeah, listen, you're definitely flying.
Starting point is 00:15:58 You're definitely off the ground. It's not... Listen, it's not terrible. No. It's not fantastic.'s not terrible no it's not fantastic the cable is thick i wasn't just so you know i wasn't like oh my god how are they flying right now yeah and the thing is is you get strapped into something that like what i assume people get strapped into for like jumping out of planes yeah you. You know, like it's like a band that goes groin, groin, back, like chest.
Starting point is 00:16:30 They're not fucking around. They can't drop you guys. No, they can't be. I mean, no. Yeah. Then no more Peter Pan in any of the tri-state area. Peter Pan, like Spider-Man the musical. Remember all the injuries?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Oh, yeah, yeah. There was some level of children's theater where there were that many injuries. Well, I'm sure that they actually have. Have you ever seen the bloopers of Peter Pan middle school productions or whatever? Where are they? Yeah. Oh my God. They're the funniest thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:16:53 They're like hitting, hitting windows. Flying into the window. Yeah. I mean, just, and then like they go back and again and again. When I was a little kid, I, uh, there was that old version of Peter Pan, the musical. Um, you know, like it's a staged version, um, that old version of Peter Pan the musical. You know, like it's a staged version from like the, I don't know, 60s or something. We even filmed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 With the woman who did it like forever. Mary Murphy. Yeah. She's blonde, short hair. Something like that. That's who it is? Isn't it Mary Murphy? Mary Murphy.
Starting point is 00:17:19 There's definitely two M's. That's what I said. Oh, I thought you said Carrie. Definitely in Mary. You're right. You're right. And I remember one of my parents' Oh, I thought you said Carrie. Definitely a Mary. You're right. You're right. And I remember one of my parents' friends, like
Starting point is 00:17:28 I was like five and one of my parents' friends was watching it and making fun that they could see the strings. And I remember having like as a five-year-old being like, yeah, I'm not a fucking idiot. I know it's a string but I can still have an imagination. I was so mad at that, like an adult making fun that they could see the strings. I was
Starting point is 00:17:44 like, yeah, yeah no i'm not an idiot like i can see it like like i'm five and i'm able to suspend my disbelief and still enjoy this piece of art that's when you know that you're gonna be somebody that like just totally loves theater yeah is when you can just suspend your disbelief like at the drop of a hat well that's what tova my my girlfriend i think because she didn't grow up with a theater tradition sometimes she won't get past that first level of of disbelief like especially with musicals like there's like i think there's a degree of like why do they keep rhyming and i want to be like meanwhile you know some old man goes up and goes i'm the messiah and you know she believes that but somehow the musical is too hard to digest.
Starting point is 00:18:27 October 4th, 2022, sometimes I wash my feet with cum. And then your second tweet was, reply, please. I can't even believe that I said that. I can't believe that I said that. That sounds like 2022. That's disgusting. That was going around.
Starting point is 00:18:45 2022. That like, you'd think I'd remember like, that's two years ago. Yeah. I think the SNL Twitter account should retweet just a couple old tweets just to fuck with you guys. Be like, it's still here. I would bet that that got less than 10 likes. It got 17. Really? 17 likes.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So that was actually kind of good for me then. Yeah. And of course, someone said something gross. Too gross for even what the content of that was? Yeah. I mean, just mean. Just some guys. Oh, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Some guys. Oh, guys stuff. You're a disgrace. Oh, my God. Please, please quit comedy. Thank God you didn't see that one. You are a disgrace. And by the way, the please, please quit comedy thank god you didn't see that one you are just like and by the way the please please quit comedy was two months later no uh someone said oh someone said this is the best tweet ever quote you are a disgrace that that is there's been some crazy like
Starting point is 00:19:37 when i was not um this can be a you know this when i was not like doing anything special really you know getting 17 like some tweets i remember there was a couple people a couple guys they had to have been guys that trolled me in an insane way really yeah yeah like they would be commenting on a lot of my stuff like like Jim Carrey ass looking motherfucker. And I'd be like, it was like a pretty picture of me. So it wasn't like, it wasn't like, ah, you're funny and crazy looking. I was like. The mask.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah. And Jim Carrey. Not a bad looking guy. When he was, especially when he was younger, there's sometimes you see some of those guys you go younger and you're like, oh, you were, you were gorgeous. Jim Carrey was a beautiful. He was a beautiful man, but he was younger. Sometimes you see some of those guys when you're younger, you're like, oh, you were gorgeous. Jim Carrey was a beautiful- He was a beautiful man, but he was like Ace Ventura. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I think that they weren't like- They were like Jim Carrey on a good photo shoot day. It was like Jim Carrey when he comes out of the rhinoceros as asshole. Just the most amount of faces that you can make,
Starting point is 00:20:41 like rubber face. And these are like the same people, like you had a handful of the same kind of were some yeah they were like some similar people and then they would dm me like you look like you smell oh my god like stuff like that sure where it was just like oh man this person like really hates me i got called smelly once by many people because of a interaction with the rock uh and it doesn't hurt. The Rock, there was some interview, he says he showers three times a day.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah. I quote tweeted, not him, just in articles, something about like, that's crazy, but I had a funny line. And then suddenly this tweet started getting all these, all this like replies or whatever. And I was like, what's going on here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And The Rock had replied to it. No. And he was, you know, he was like doing his thing where he was like, what's going on here? Yeah. And The Rock had replied to it. No. And he was, you know, he was like doing his thing where he was like, hey brother, hey brother,
Starting point is 00:21:29 I just showered because I have a lot of responsibilities. I hope you are well. Take care. Like a really passive aggressive thing. And then I,
Starting point is 00:21:36 I was nervous. A lot of followers The Rock has. And I wrote back because we went to the same college and he saw me in Hello Dolly.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Really? And so I wrote back a very full on groveling mea culpa. I'm just joking, brother. Think of me for your next project. You don't have to grovel at The Rock. But I wanted him to do the pod. No.
Starting point is 00:22:02 He'd be a bad guest. And also he would never do the pod. That'd be so bad guest that and also he would never do the pod that'd be so crazy i disagree not never not never we'd have to get some more listeners for sure yeah but maybe after this episode hey yeah i'm doing numbers you met the rock uh no i haven't met the rock i does he go by the rock like Dwayne, I'm sure. Dwayne. If you're going up to him, what are you saying? Mr. Dwayne Johnson?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson. Oh, Mr. Johnson. Very formal. Isn't he like the biggest celebrity in the world? He's definitely up there. I mean, I think Oprah. Well, I don't mean, well, I I mean literally like Quantum Like I think he is like
Starting point is 00:22:46 The most highly paid I'm getting a nod Oh Well because in China Our producer didn't look it up He just said he thinks so He's like He's a huge rock fan
Starting point is 00:22:56 I think he is like Literally like Because in China He is so popular In his movies That he is Like the wealthiest, most successful actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Which, I mean, and then you understand why there was like a television show about his life. You know, like Little Rock or something. Little Rock. I auditioned for once. Oh, you did? Who did you audition for? Not a regular person. The Rock.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It was a wrestler. Someone in that world. It's a huge, I know wrestlers. Oh, you did? Who did you audition for? Not a regular person. A wrestler? Someone in that world. I know wrestlers, especially that era. I don't remember the thing. It was so long ago. Yeah. I didn't get it. I'm aware. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Are you really over, for people who don't know, Chloe's on Saturday Night Live. Woo! Woo! Woo! What's up with that? I've been to two parties.
Starting point is 00:23:51 You said that. You dropped that earlier. I did say that. Well, it wasn't even mean for it to be. What's up with that? Oh, yeah. And then it kind of was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And I thought about leaning into it. And then I said, you know. I was going to go, ooh-wee. I mean, that would have been a big moment for us, but I wasn't sure if I should talk right now. Yeah. All right. Ooh,
Starting point is 00:24:09 we perfect. We will, we will say what's up with that. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Ooh,
Starting point is 00:24:18 we, what's up with that? Wow. What's up with that? Cool. You hear that? He'll be happy. are you have you become because i saw you at one party i've seen you two i've been to two parties and one it was just very funny because i saw you very much like you're ready to go home you were done with work yeah and uh are you completely over do you still
Starting point is 00:24:43 get starstruck by anyone or is it done? Oh. Have you become numb to see? You're like, I see. I don't think I'm numb at all. I feel like I have that moment probably on a Sunday after the week is over and being like, oh, my God, I can't believe I did that. That's that person. That's that person that I know.
Starting point is 00:25:05 my god i can't believe i did that that's that person that's a person that i know but i feel like maybe the exhaustion kind of takes over and like everyone is just really like like an old exhausted person by at the end of the day in those halls where it's just like oh yeah hey yeah what's what's the peak day of oh my god i need to go to sleep um honestly i feel like a lot of people would say tuesday just because it's like you write all night or you're like you know you get there kind of early you try and make sure you plan your ideas and then you just write for a really long time different stuff with people until like the wee hours but honestly after that then you wake up early on Wednesday and you edit stuff and then there's a table read of like 40 sketches that you read for hours and hours and hours and you're nervous and you're hot it's high energy highs and lows like a
Starting point is 00:25:56 lot and then afterwards we wait for probably an hour or an hour and a half and then script picks comes out and and if you're if your sketch gets picked then you work on like um you know the set and the costumes and whatever like you tell the people who are the head of each of those departments what you want your sketch to look like etc and then you go home and that's the day where i'm like, I need a drink and I need to go to bed. Yeah. That's a big from Tuesday to end of Wednesday is a lot. So yeah, like come Wednesday morning, like it's, you're already kind of exhausted. So Wednesday night, I feel like is the night that is just like, I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Cause it's also, there's high emotional energy the whole day of like, I'm nervous to do my thing. I'm about to shoot out of a cannon with a crazy idea. And it's like, it could be a success or it could like totally bomb. Tell me, because we've all seen the James Franco documentary. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's very stressful. Please, nothing about how innocent he is. please, nothing about how innocent he is.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And there's a moment in the, there's a moment where Casey Wilson has to basically do a scene with singing. Yes. And she's got to do it to the end. And it's so, Casey Wilson is a genius. She's so funny. She's so funny. But like, it's so, it's such a,
Starting point is 00:27:20 it's so real that they, it's like one of those things you're like, oh man, that feeling of like, God, that, I don't envy. Are you, is it randomized? Are you in the, could be the first sketch or are you like at the bottom of the sketches? So they usually arrange them. They arrange them very meticulously. And with that being said, i am often very late they meticulously put you
Starting point is 00:27:50 last for a second which is always like really tough yeah well um how long is a session by the way because you're reading like 60 like 50 60 sketches all these 40 yeah so there's uh 20 we read 20 and then we have like 10 15 minute break and then we read 20, and then we have like 10, 15 minute break, and then we read 20 more. How long? Jesus Christ. Hours. It's hours, you know? And everyone is, you know, it's like, you got to poop your pants before, and then that kind of doesn't end until after. Like that just kind of energy that's just like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:29 that just kind of energy that's just like, but the, usually the first couple sketches are a mixture of like something that's kind of could be a cold open of sorts, either like a political thing or like a sports broadcasting about, you know, I don't know, football, whatever. Just usually like a group kind of piece that's like, oh, this could be a cold open type thing. And then right after that is the monologue, like the first draft of the monologue. And there are certain things that we clap for at the table. Like before, like Lauren reads all the stage directions and he'll go you know like uh home base emma stone and then we clap at the table and she's like hey everybody i'm emma stone
Starting point is 00:29:15 and then she she starts the thing yeah and then we clap after the monologue is over so there's like a lot of energy at the beginning of like we're starting built-in energy yeah it's it's and and i love built-in energy if that's something you know about it's helpful i love built-in energy yeah i uh so you know i do a lot of music on the show not all of my sketches that i bring to table are music and and you know some of them are just regular plain ass sketches and but when i do write a music piece uh me and uh this writer at the show mike d'cenzo um we call him deech and he uh he wrote this sketch um for wig week uh that was really silly and stupid and um super fun but we didn't start writing it until like 1 a.m because we were like
Starting point is 00:30:05 ditching other ideas and then we started writing this one and it was like cracking us up in the middle of the night kind of crack you up kind of thing and we're like well this could be anything like we the whole night after that we were like it could be anything it could be anything and then the whole day after like editing and getting we were like oh what could this be and then we made up a thing because at the end of each half everyone claps and then you know like it's either break or it's we're done yeah and so usually they put music pieces at the end of half and so we go hashtag gotta clap yeah so it's like even if it even if whatever happens yeah yeah there is never the deafening silence that sometimes happens after like a weird bomb or something it's just a hashtag gotta clap
Starting point is 00:30:51 yeah so they didn't do over they didn't do over like just be clear this is just because it's the end not for that now with the music ones like the you have that obviously that one this season was amazing the orphan oh it's so funny with writing the like music part of it. Is that you like, like, cause I know there's a, like, obviously there's a music department. How does that work in the, in terms of like, cause that would be the fear of like, we have to write this tonight and we have to write the music for it. And like, cause then you're gonna have to perform like, how does that work at the next, you know? Um, so I, I pretty much wrote all the music for that, uh, sketch. Um, just like on Tuesday, I was, I, I was sort of fiddling with a melody like earlier on Tuesday of how to
Starting point is 00:31:36 like fit in the content and I'm like, you know, what, whatever the melody is going to be. And then Eli is our music director there. And he's just the best. He's been there for so many years. And he's been the music director for like some songs that you're like, oh, fuck, that's awesome. You know, like the comeback Barack, the like Dick in a Box, like just like all these kinds of things. And so, you know, you knock on his door and you're like,
Starting point is 00:32:06 hey, I have a music thing. And he's like, sweet. Or maybe he'll come knock. Usually he's like, music thing this week? You know, like I do like a lot. And then he was like, I was like, so this is what it is, whatever. And I think it's kind of like a Michael McDonald kind of like thing, whatever. And Mikey Day and Streeter um uh helped write that sketch with me and they hadn't seen like i wrote a first draft of it and sent it off to them and they have
Starting point is 00:32:35 a million stuff to do because it's like a head writer sure and so they just saw the script and they never heard the song um and they kind of assumed it was just like a pretty like a pretty little song of like an Annie type like what's so wrong with me and I was like and when we got there for um so I worked on the music with Eli and then I worked on the script with Streeter and Mikey and they kind of didn't cross paths yeah until um I we got to table and I'm sure that that, I don't know when it was during table, but I'm sure it was second half, like bottom of the ninth kind of thing. And, um, and I, like, I, I remember before, before that, Mike, he was like, you know, mean street or like, you know, we, we kind of get, we, we bomb all the time. So it's like, you know, Mean Streeter, we bomb all the time.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So it's like, you know, nothing to be afraid of. Always a good feeling. But it was like the sweetest way that he could have said being like, nothing matters, dude. Like, this is great. Like, this is really funny. And it was my first really like big thing at table that had any kind of singing. I had done another thing like the first week that was very fun too, but it had no singing. So nobody really like knew about that element. And so then when I started singing the
Starting point is 00:33:58 song, when Mikey sits next to me at table, he was like, like, he just didn't know what the song sounded like at all and and I think that like everyone was kind of elated by by the difference just like the juxtaposition of of the tone of it and then what the song sounded like and so it was cool that I was working on it with two kind of groups of people and then they all finally heard it at the same time as I was doing it yeah and so yeah it's as crazy as it's as crazy and chaotic as that is like oh you'll see when okay sure like when you feel at the table you're like fuck yeah this is gonna be a banger um i uh i would say at the first the first moment i did that like started singing and everyone got really excited yeah yeah i was like
Starting point is 00:34:46 this is so cool yeah this is like epically cool like i will not ever forget this this feeling yeah sure um and everyone was just like so fucking cool like during and after that they were like you can sing yeah yeah and then kind of like gears started turning for people i think in a way because i hadn't totally and they hadn't they don't not not a lot of the people watch the auditions sure so they don't know really what you're coming at it with you know like they don't know your angle right away. So have you worked on your, uh, we miss you Biden song for after the election? I'm really gunning for, uh, come back Biden. Come back to life.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Um, yeah, you were, so you were always, I mean, you were singing at such a young age. Um, yeah, you were, so you were always, I mean, you were singing at such a young age. Um, did you, did you ever almost go into the musical theater, uh, life? Um, I always thought that I was going to do that. Do you still want to, is there a part of you that wants to be a Broadway? Um, I think that's been, that was like the biggest sort of childhood dream. You'll probably be able to do it now. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:08 I mean, you did it. Yeah, but like I'm saying like you, like I feel like now you're like, you can do it. You know what I mean? Like, because like you do, you know, you're on SNL and I feel like that it's a perfect thing of like, oh, everyone knows you can sing really well now. I'm'm trying to think that what snl person has like gone like directly to a broadway i mean anna gosteyer did wicked what's his name did hamilton alex moffat just did alex moffat just did uh yeah yeah yeah i mean i it definitely was uh i like the only kind of dream as a kid was like oh it's like it's it's broadway like i've only done did a million like children's theater shows growing up like uh my mom just kind of like carting me you know between like a school and play rehearsal just like kind of constantly
Starting point is 00:36:59 she just loved theater she just understood um yeah she was she's a huge fan and um my and her youtube channel is just you none of her yeah i mean my mom is not um i'm burping from this drink yeah sure this is an interesting drink it really tastes like turmeric it really does yeah like i was like trying to figure out like what the fuck is that taste It's a spice It's a spice When you drink something that tastes like a spice It's a wet spice It really is
Starting point is 00:37:35 It's like a curry in your mouth You're drinking sort of a sweet tonic curry We got them for free And I never drank them I have one a day I don't not like it It feels very healthy Yeah. We got them for free and I never drive them. I have one a day when I'm here because I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why not? I don't not like it.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It feels very healthy. He hasn't slept for weeks. He's a mess. What? Yeah. You kind of have, you wonder like, I guess it's good. I guess it's good for me. 16,000% of the B12 that you're like your daily take of B12.
Starting point is 00:37:59 That can't be good. No, I don't know. But I don't. You should never, you should never be having more than a hundred percent but they do that a lot with b12 things to give you like you know but what would be the point of having more than a hundred i don't exactly take it up with big b12 i don't know that with vitamin c too they're like i'm sick i'll have i'll have 13 000 vitamin c like that's that's the cure you know that that's a emergency. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Oh, don't I know it, but everyone still recommends it. You know why? Cause it's scurvy. Wait, what? That's how they built it. Vitamin C. I shouldn't be taking those packets. No, they don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Well, they're okay because they're actually laden with lots of vitamins. It's not just vitamin C, but they like, they advertise it as it's like, it's vitamin C packed, but really what you want advertise it as it's like, it's vitamin C packed, but really what you want is just like nutrients and vitamins. And it's not going to help the cold that you have. It's just going to help you. It might make you slightly healthier. Mentally, when I was doing shows, I was like, like I would have one a day.
Starting point is 00:38:57 That's good. Being like, it helped my mental, like, I feel like I was doing something healthy. Well, that's good because it's hydrating. Yeah. And it's like, it's got vitamins, which is something that you need. Yeah. And then, but the vitamin C, you guys both shifted at the same time. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:13 We're out of here. Wait. It was like a part of the Truman Show. Like everyone changes at the same time. Emergency. Oh my God. That kind of was like freaky. All right. Did you ever uh oh wait but
Starting point is 00:39:27 i want to say the scurvy thing the scurvy please yeah so so uh apparently they vitamin c is a cure for scurvy because you can't get vitamin c when you were like on the seas yes so you would you would get this sickness called scurvy and so they just kept supplying people like oh if you're sick it's probably scurvy you need vitamin c sure and then that kind of caught fire and and look it's 2024 i think we've been far away from scurvy for a long time and yet here we are like things just being like emerging c c c You know. I get it. When you're sick, you're like, please, could someone make this go away faster? You'll do anything.
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Starting point is 00:41:19 while i was tipping into illness right at the end of like the first half before Christmas and I knew I had to sing a little bit and ended up being fine. But then right when I got off the show for Christmas break, I my body just like like just disintegrated into nothingness. I, I couldn't like move. I was so fatigued. I w it was hard to like lift my limbs. I was like, I was getting achy. Like, you know, the wrist, you know, you get the wrist thing when you have a fever where it's like, where it's like, if someone touches your wrist, it like hurts you. I haven't had that, but I know, uh, it like hurts you. I haven't had that, but I know, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:05 immediately. My skin always hurts. My skin is really, I always, it's always my skin. It's very, I think I have sensitive skin. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I know that feeling though of like, I, when I, cause I did shows for a while and anytime I had like a scheduled vacation, I would be sick for my vacation. Cause I would be, cause your body, you're like,
Starting point is 00:42:24 you're like, just keep doing it. You gotta get these eight shows a week. And then like, and then, you know, and then I'd be sick for my vacation because I would be because you're like you're like just keep doing you gotta get these eight shows a week and then like and then you know and then I'd be sick and yeah and it just pushes it off until I think it's just like adrenaline and stuff which is like that's actually how it works is that adrenaline like keeps you going and then when the adrenaline kind of stops your body kind of unleashes all it just it just becomes sick. And then but then after that week of like feeling like crazy, I ended up getting these crazy full body hives for like eight more days. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:58 That were so deeply debilitating. I was on like steroids and Benadryl and allergy medicine. Whole body? Whole body. So they would like flare up onto my legs, like all over my legs where it felt like burning and itching at the same time where I was like, was it a sickness thing or like a stress? Like, cause sometimes I think it was both. Like I think hives,
Starting point is 00:43:19 they diagnosed me with post viral or post infectious hives, which happens. Yes. So just, you know, for the next time you're sick, this could absolutely happen to you, especially if you're kind of running on empty boys. And I know how often you do this pod. how often you do this pod. If you're, if you're, you know, if your body is depleted,
Starting point is 00:43:47 just, you know, maybe, maybe do take those packets because, because I was, it was really bad. It was really bad. And actually it just ended kind of on New Year's Eve, sort of when those fireworks,
Starting point is 00:44:04 like that day I had just a little bit left some of my face a little bit it was sort of going down at that point and i remember because i was sober for new year's which is rare for me and um i was just like watching everyone kind of really dangerously put up fireworks and was like it's not i'm not gonna be mommy uh-huh yeah um and it and it yeah i remember that those those two memories kind of collide in my head because i was very ill when you so okay so you did you did this children's theater growing up then where you go to high school jersey uh yeah i went to my public high school uh northern highlands good theater program well so that's interesting yes they do have a
Starting point is 00:44:53 great theater program but i ended up actually doing theater at the all boys catholic school um that was kind of nearby because they had like summer uh uh shows that i would do okay and i ended up being really close with a lot of people that worked in that department and stuff and any girl from the surrounding areas could audition for the all boys school so like it would be mostly girls from the all girls school so that they can they switch on and off but then also a lot of girls from like public schools that were like i like this program it was really big yeah was also a lot of girls from public schools that were like, I like this program. It was really big. Was there a lot of... I just... Because I went to a co-ed high school.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And I just imagine any avenue where then you intermingle, there's got to be people hooking up. Got to be chaos. You never have any girls, you never have any boys, and then suddenly you're doing theater on top of it? It's got to be wild. Was it a wild time? But like theater, was it
Starting point is 00:45:45 just a wild, chaotic... If you never had school to get it out, how are you getting rehearsal stuff? Well, I mean, that's like kind of... Like, is your mic okay? Yeah, my mic's okay. My headphones stopped. Oh. That's okay. I don't need them. Yeah, take them off.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Hell, we don't need them. You can come on the side of me and we can share a little. We're like singing like an amazing pop song in the 90s, like sharing a thing. That is actually a huge part of, I feel like, that program. It was St. Joe's High School Theater. St. Joe's? St. Joe's. Like St. Joseph?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah. But like his name wasn't joe i just i was just like sorry st joseph but we always call it i just thought like for a second was it like saint you know joe joe joe well like yeah i guess i've never really thought about that saint joey yes yeah that's what it sounded like yeah and there was a lot of those guys there too a lot of Italian a lot of Irish Catholic a lot of Italian
Starting point is 00:46:51 but yeah the program kind of it really helped that girls were coming into the school any kind of girl always fresh kind of new girls. And a lot of like,
Starting point is 00:47:08 um, more like jock type guys would audition and do the play because they were like, you can meet girls. That's like, Oh, you're going to basketball. What are you gay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you gotta, I mean, you gotta at least do like one show. Cause like, cause then we'd have like a cast parties and stuff. And like, there is like this crazy party that used to happen.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I don't think it still does, but where it would be in like the ballroom of this hotel, because it was so big. Like there was so many kids that did the program that they would like rent out a little ballroom to have our like end of the year see you know saint joe's theater department party or whatever and it was in a hotel and so then all the kids would get hotel rooms definitely i really hope my parents aren't watching but um or listening i hope your mom posts this on her youtube yeah so wait the hotel would say hey 15 year old boy here you go here's a hotel uh i think the parents would be like hey like it and it'd be like oh me and casey are sharing a room here but
Starting point is 00:48:19 you know it got a little stupid it's gonna be tough when you're a parent. You're just like, I know what you're going to do. I know. I want to be cool. Yeah. So people get rooms and they just stay the night there. Yeah, it was debauchery. Anyone ever get in trouble? Like, I'm sure there's drinking. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I had a strike. We did it at the school. You slept over. After the show, we called strike. Oh, oh. I thought you meant like you went on strike. We're not putting on a play. we're not putting on a play. We're not putting on a play.
Starting point is 00:48:48 You let us drink. No, we would, but after the show, we would take down all the set and wrap around three or four and then we'd go into the common area. There'd be food and we'd sleep over and no one would be sleeping. Wait, you would sleep over in the high school? In the high
Starting point is 00:49:04 school. That's crazy school that's crazy it's crazy but i've i've had it where there's always drinking and and said pod and edibles and and someone pulled the fire alarm this one year and for the first time in forever like everyone got in trouble and ultimately it resulted in me having a probation mark on my record are you serious it was the worst it was i've told you a little bit about this but it was uh it happened every year our school was it was a private school in dc but it had been known as like the drug school for forever the the you know there were teachers who there were known to smoke pot when they were younger with their kids so it was loose and it was drinking and smoking but this one, this kid pulled the fire alarm.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It triggered some kind of investigation. Some parents were determined to find out what happened. And gradually, they got all the seniors and juniors to find out who brought the drugs, who brought the alcohol. And then it trickled down to the sophomores and freshmen. I was a sophomore. And by the way, this was like third time I'd ever gotten alcohol or third time I ever tried pot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And they gathered us all in a room to like the head of the theater department, the freshmen and sophomores. They're like, we know what's happening and we want to ask you guys, did you drink or smoke? And we had all convened before this.
Starting point is 00:50:24 We were like, we were like, guys, nobody stitches drink or smoke? And we had all convened before this. We were like, guys. Nobody stitches. But truly, truly nobody. It feels so, looking back, I'm like, that's what we should have done. But instead they went one by one. And, you know, this woman said no.
Starting point is 00:50:36 This guy said, I didn't do anything. This one woman like did a little too much. Woman? Why do you keep saying woman? Because I always feel weird saying girl. Well, what? Now I'm confused. Now I'm seeing this 30-year-old woman be like,
Starting point is 00:50:49 I didn't drink. This one broad over here. This one chick over here. She did a little too much. She's like, I would never drink. I'm on ADHD medication that won't allow me to drink. And we're like, shut up, shut up, shut up. And it goes one by one. It gets to me. I say no. The head of the tech department, he looks at me.
Starting point is 00:51:05 He goes. And I'm like, and I'm like ignoring it. I'm buzzing inside my head. And it goes all the way to the end. And then this one girl earlier starts crying. And she goes, I actually did do it. And I was like, no, no, no. The walls are crumbling.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And then she came forward. And then he came forward. And everyone. And then I didn't in that moment because I was like, I was like, you don't have to do this. And then stupidly, and this is the big mistake I made is I went to the theater teacher after and said something like I was going to come forward, but I figured I'd tell you in person. And we all should have lied. They had no proof on us. No proof on us.
Starting point is 00:51:42 But that being said, that night was one of the best nights of my, it was just like first time getting on an edible, first time drinking. I think there was a girl I had a crush on and I think I told her I love you. And then I like drowned out. I mean, that's cool. And we dated like the next year.
Starting point is 00:51:59 It was so cool. It took her a year to get over. Like I think he told me he loved me. She had like, she had like, she had a boyfriend. And so I didn't make a move. Oh my God. But I just said like drunkenly, over. Like, I think he told me he loved me. She had a boyfriend. I didn't make a move. But I just said like drunkenly, like, listen, I love you. Oh, my God. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I had a couple. I mean, yeah. Tell us. I see a story. Story of Bruin. I, there was, I mean, with an allboys school comes like a lot of boys who are desperate for female attention yeah and I enjoyed like I was hanging out there all the time because I was in the musical then I was in the play then I was doing the summer stuff so I was like I was very
Starting point is 00:52:43 involved so was like all of my like girlfriends who were also in the program too and i really in like i became buddy i i like becoming buddies and i with guys sure and they know i'll be chummy and then you be chummy to a guy who like a girl never talked to and then they like have yeah a conniption kind of sure sure and then they tell you they love you on day one i did have a couple i did have a couple things and like the people the people close like my parents and stuff we would we talk about this a lot still too where it's like somebody bought me a tiffany bracelet oh my god that's that's the that's the top yeah and somebody invited me to like stations of the cross and then i didn't want to go and then they were like i was gonna
Starting point is 00:53:40 ask you to prom there through this like or intricate thing that we were all going to do at Stations of the Cross? I feel like they got their answer in advance and they had to go down to trouble. You have to go because then I was going to ask you to go down there. What is Stations of the Cross? Are you a, oh you're Jewish? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Did you grow up Catholic or anything? No, what is that? Okay, so Stations of the Cross is where it's like these it sounds stressful it also sounds like something you don't ask a gal to get to the stations of the cross it really does feel it sounds really scary actually but it's like these placard things on the wall that all depict you know what i'm talking about it about okay so i keep going over to i i keep there's these like placards on the on the wall of a church that depict like each sort of stage of jesus like carrying the cross up the hill like running into mary magdalene getting to the cross
Starting point is 00:54:43 like punches pilot like he runs into her getting to the cross, like punches pilot. Like he runs into her just on the street and she's like, Jesus, what are you carrying that for? No, it's really that. Like it's like a big group of people. It's a big procession of people. Cause he had so many devout followers that he like, and this is me as if I'm preaching, but I'm not, it's just like part of the history of it is that he's carrying the cross on his back. And then all these people are like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And then there's some people spinning on him and some people throwing rocks at him. And then Mary Magdalene is there. And then he talks to her. And then there's other things that happen. There's 12 of them. There's like 12 stations. Stations. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:24 There's 12 stations. And then it finally gets to the station where he gets nailed up there and do you think that's where he was going to propose the prom do you like it's like it's not a just like jesus gets nailed to the cross i'd like to nail you down for june 30th that would work which station would you pick i I think the Mary Magdalene one makes sense. She's a whore. That's romantic. Yeah. Just like Mary Magdalene went down on men in the olden times, I'd like for you to get down to prom with me.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Let's respect the Catholicism a little. Jesus and Mary. That was a joke. What? I said let's respect the Catholicism for a little. And then I was nervous that you were like, oh. Oh, okay. Wait, Jesus and Mary, though, they just kind of like flirted, right?
Starting point is 00:56:11 They didn't ever. How was it taught in the church? Because outside the church, we're like, they were fucking, she was a sex worker. And that's cool. Well, I, in church, it's never really like specified as to what I guess their deeper relationship was, at least not to like a kid who was going to CCD. Yeah. Like they're, you know, they talk about how she was a prostitute and he, you know, is like, bring me all your lepers and your sinful and the poor and whatever. And I will forgive them of their sins.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And it was like, I guess it was more so of like, oh my God, even if you're a whore you can change and be But then did she ever go like no more whore? I mean, if anything, she probably got all those guys there and was like, hey, I can make a lot of money. There's 12 guys.
Starting point is 00:56:59 12? Sure. She had a blast. Jesus' body wasn't the only thing getting eaten. Oh my God. Yeah. I think it's like, I feel like just from the, I didn't go to church a lot, but I felt like the, the kind of, they want us to be like, they were into each other, but nothing happened because that would be bad.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Did they really say that? I mean, maybe it's just the depiction of like the depiction. Maybe I'm thinking of like musicals like Jesus Christ Superstar like she likes him in Jesus Christ Superstar right? Jesus Christ Superstar there's clearly sexual yeah I feel like they
Starting point is 00:57:35 fuck in Jesus Christ Superstar they certainly do the feet washing whose feet are you washing that you're not also doing other things wash my feet at your home Mary Magdalene I really am Mary if my girlfriend That you're not also doing other things. Wash my feet at your home? Wash my feet at your home? Mary Magdalene? I really am Mary. If my girlfriend, if I said, oh, we didn't do anything, honey.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I just washed her feet. She just washed my feet. She washed my feet. I guess I put myself in the feminine position automatically. That is really, that is, yeah. She just washed my feet. It's just bottoming. That's so intimate. Bottom bottoming.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah. All the way. Why would someone bring you, when someone brings you to the station, so is this a thing you do with on a date? Or just that guy. Was it a new one? It was just that guy, I think. Well, that guy was like a singer and was like singing at it.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Like it wasn't my steez. Yeah. It wasn't my steez. Yeah. Like, I, like, went, I actually sang at church every Sunday by myself at the 6 p.m. Mass. Wow. From when I was 13 to when I was 18, and I left for college. What style?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Are we talking, like, a little poppy, or was it, like, choral? It was, like, a mix of both a little bit. it was a 6 p.m mass so it's a little more casual and so uh the person who was like the music director person he played just regular piano not an organ and then sometimes would play guitar so it was like i never wanted it to be, when I was doing it, I was like, I'm going to try and just do this kind of straight. I didn't want to really put a lot of flair on it because my church was like very like Catholic. Like people were, I think they would have been really rattled by hearing a riff. Sure. Like it would have been really shocking because every, all the music at my church was like,
Starting point is 00:59:26 in the unity of the Holy Spirit, all glory and honor to you forever and ever. You know when they hit the note that's just like, it really cuts you. They finally get to it.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah. It's like, it's kind of rough when they do forever or like Jews have that like, they have a little, a little note change that's the most.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Oh, I know what you mean, where it's like, like that kind of. Yeah, Jews, I'm trying to think if I can recreate the Jew one. It's going to, listen. You really started low. Please put it on the screen. I'm Jewish. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah. Why? I can't musically. You're just doing it. I can't like it. Yeah. I can't musically. You're just doing it. I can't like literally impressions of anything. He's a singer. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:11 So you're a singer. You can do it. But I can't. Like if you tell me like speak gibberish Italian, like gibberish, like just recreate kind of this house. I literally cannot do it. Fa-fa-nopoly.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You know, like that. Yeah. I'll eventually go. Fa- do it. Fa-fa-mopoly. You know, like that. Yeah. I'll eventually go, Fa-nopoly? Fa-ba-ba-ba-ba-dee. And then I will say spaghetti. I can't do impressions. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah. That was not real. Before you got here, Russell was doing Japanese. Stop! That's good. I want to hear that later. But you can do, could you always do impressions it's an incredible skill it truly is did you do impressions in your in your like audition
Starting point is 01:00:53 i did some i did i did not really i mean the thing with impressions i feel like is like i only really want to hear an impression of i I think, for me, like, you can do the voice, like, well, but you really are making them do something they'd never do. Yeah. Like, really something they'd never do or never say. Yeah. Like, that's the funniest shit to me is, like, you know. And short. Yeah, short.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Short. I was, I think I did, I did, I auditioned twice for the show, but the first time I auditioned, the first time I did a screen test, I did Austin Butler accepting his Oscar for Elvis. And it was just an Elvis impression. But it was like, You know, it was just like yeah yeah stupid bad elvis impression but the thought of it of being like haha him accepting his speech like as elvis is really stupid yeah but it was like nothing and then i did sydney sweeney um during that time when there was something about like her
Starting point is 01:02:01 family being trumpers yeah and i did something with that and what what is what's like what are her hooks for that impression um it's like sorry now i'm not it's like that's like it's like um like i hate i it's more breathy a little bit. It's like, um, like I didn't, um, like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 It's like something kind of breathless. She is like. I can't forget what I did, but, and then I do, I feel like the singing, I never really like thought I was an impressionist person. I just really like voices.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Sure. And I like, I like, um, I like like accents and voices and things and singers i always felt very compelled to kind of like emulate them if as like a little kid singing of like you know trying to get a singer's voice right yeah because that sort of would inevitably help me like figure out how they hit a note a certain way like i i would
Starting point is 01:03:06 always be like how the fuck is like celine dion hitting those notes sure yeah and titani yeah and i would really go in on like where her placement was like her you know it's like or it's like you know it's like yeah it's the resonance is like in a million different places so it's like i i really enjoyed finding where those are in the voice and like i feel like i'm less good at like hitting the nail on the head with some buddy's voice and for sure just like how are they doing that that's cool i want to try so you've done you've done judy garland um have you done eliza uh i did i haven't done eliza but i i feel like i um like my favorite what's what's your Liza
Starting point is 01:04:06 well you remember the video that came out of her in the car where she's like where they're like Liza can you still sing and she's like she's like she's like
Starting point is 01:04:20 what does she say she's like can I still sing no what does she say? She's like, can I still sing? No! No! Here I come then. Go, go, go!
Starting point is 01:04:32 And it's just like yelling like in the car and they're like, can you still sing? And she's like, no! It's like, can I still sing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:41 No! It's like, it's really quite startling and I know I'm peaking there. So, but it's like it's really quite startling and i know i'm peaking there so um but it's like i did a character i've done a character a long time like uh this character called pepper slit that's like oh yeah it's very in love with like liza manelli and elaine stritch and like all those people it's like it's like yeah it's like a it's like a fun marriage of that. So I feel like those characters, I adore so much that I would love to emulate them
Starting point is 01:05:11 in any kind of way, but it's not like back pocket. I got Eliza back pocket. Sure, yeah. It'd be tough to exaggerate because even Elaine Stritch, here's to the ladies who lunch, it is like a character thing. I don't know how you could exaggerate it even more.
Starting point is 01:05:25 It's crazy. It's just her. I love, I listen to that recording all the time. The one from the 70s where she's in the thing? Yeah, you see the documentary, of course. Yeah, and that one note where she's like. Rise! Well, the one where she's like,
Starting point is 01:05:44 Here's to the girls who play smart. Everybody laugh. Everybody. Oh, it's like, here's to the girls who play smart. Everybody dies! Yeah. And it's just a straight tone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And it just pinpricks you right in the brain where it's like everybody died you know it's right well i i said once that i've i've been going to more theater than i did for a long long long time and like there's very rarely not great singers in musical theater roles like elaine stritch was not a great singer no but she could she could hold that note and it was so moving it was so moving and so like it made a musical theater a little bit more natural yeah in that moment well because it's like now everyone yeah you can hear the training they're all voices sound the same she's flat in the company the opening number there's some note that they all hold where elaine is flat as fuck i do think
Starting point is 01:06:45 of so good i do think you look at like all the people that are like have such unique voices that came out of the 70s or 80s like even bernadette peters are like you know they have such unique voices and then now it's like let's see everyone divas i don't know okay bernie let's see Broadway divas. I don't know. Okay, Bernie, let's see Brenda Pierce one more time. Oh. What's a good song she has? Move On. The sun comes up. I think about you. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah. Something that's terrible. You got Patty? Oh, I used to do this a little bit. Like. Just no words. Who are the other big divas? Bette Midler? That one, I feel like she's got more of a crispier voice. It's sort of hard.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Ethel? Yelling? Sure. yeah uh strisand oh i mean wouldn't everybody love if someone had an amazing strisand they'd be just a phenomenal singer yeah it's just like you know it's just like yeah it's crisp she's my it it's my walk on song for stand up is Don't Rain On My Parade because it's just so good my mom loves Barbra Streisand she's taught a bunch
Starting point is 01:08:15 every time she says something these days like oh Jesus Christ Jesus Christ you on Ozempic girl oh my god that was so funny. So it was on, was it Melissa McCarthy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And she just commented, you look great, Ozempic? Yeah, or something like that. Because she meant to do a DM. Yeah. But also- That's crazy, though. That's a crazy DM. Again, that's the, you got gray in your beard?
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yeah. But then she says, give my regards to Dave or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a funny thing where you're like, I mean, it would be, it's like but then she says regards she says give my regards to dave or something yeah yeah it's just a funny thing we were like i mean it would be it's so surreal to imagine being most mccarthy and being like getting a dm from but maybe at that age and that celebrity all you do when you talk with friends are like what are you on right now hey you look great what's that injection i feel like that you wonder though here's another uh option too you wonder if they were talking about it oh earlier in a message or something like maybe he said you look great and then maybe she says something else and it's just like a response yeah yeah but i mean if that was the case maybe they would have clarified that
Starting point is 01:09:19 more just both parties would have been melissa melissa didn't say anything, did she? No, she said like, I'm so flattered that she knows who I am. I think that was her response. I'm so flattered that Barbra Streisand knows who I am. I knew who you were. It'd be funny if Barbra Streisand was just DMing all actors of size and being like,
Starting point is 01:09:40 um, like everyone in Hollywood is getting a random text from Barbra Streisand being like, was that like everyone in Hollywood is getting a random text from Barbra Streisand being like, was that epic? She just has to know. It's not,
Starting point is 01:09:52 it's not like, you know, it's not even a compliment. It's not a compliment. It's not a diss. It's just a fact. Yeah. Before we go
Starting point is 01:10:01 into our next segment, I did want to talk about because Russell is a big New Orleans boy and your brother plays a band in New Orleans. He's still there now? Yes. He lives there. He's in a band called Video Age that tours around.
Starting point is 01:10:16 They just had their national kind of tour for their most recent album that they did. He's also in another band called The Convenience, which is amazing too, based in New Orleans. Are you going to do a show there on your tour? We were thinking about it because, I mean, me and him, we grew up doing music together. And he's definitely my biggest inspiration in terms of taste and tone of everything
Starting point is 01:10:46 yeah yeah he's that big he's like the big brother that was kind of like that's cool that's not without even explicitly saying that i was kind of just like a puppy at his tail being like what's cool what's not and um we thought it would be really cool to do like a double bill of band and like half hour. Why do people have, some people hear musical comedy or comedy music and they roll their eyes. Yeah. They go, oh my God. What makes for bad? What makes it bad when it's bad?
Starting point is 01:11:24 Musical comedy. What do you do to try to not be bad? This is a really good question. Yeah. Because I've thought about it a lot. I've, my most cynical when it's at its worst, I go, this is just mediocre on two fronts at the same time. Yeah, right. The bad, bad music, bad comedy.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah. Or fine, fine. Yeah. So do you agree sometimes? It is that? I completely agree. I honestly, like, before this season on the show, I wouldn't say that I, like, I often married comedy inside of my music, really. Like, before that, honestly.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Like, I did a ton of sketch like i did a ton of sketch i did a ton of improv and um i often if i would sing something it was an actual song or something like inside of a sketch or something like i had that like i had a a guy a kid who was based off of these kids at saint joe's like a jock who's auditioning for the school play and yeah you know it's this guy who's like you know trying to get pussy and then realizes which is like this happened all the time when i was there that he has an angelic voice yeah like during like his audition but like is so fucking like i I don't fucking do it. It's like, yo, this is so fucking stupid. Yeah. But then would be like, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:48 we can build a beautiful city. Yeah. Yes, we can. I saw this bit. Yes, we can. You know, like just something like that. And so I find that really funny of like, how do we build in,
Starting point is 01:13:03 like I like scenarios that have music in them a lot yeah they can be really funny to me and and then marrying them a little bit more into like jokes are inside of the tune like that was like a real mind fuck to me because i was like but i like music and i'm and i'm a purist of like music has to be good or like don't sure yeah and then it was like comedy has to be comedy and it didn't just totally rely on just only entertainment value but then um i also think with like where at least especially with like stand-up we're like the we're like the the punch has to have some surprise to it to really make a room full of people laugh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And music can be surprising, but often it's like, well, the chorus is going this. So there's a degree of like, there's a pattern in music and comedy is sometimes breaking a pattern. And so when the two are together, I think sometimes it's like, well, you know, every lyric, the joke is going to be the rhyme at the end. Right. And it prevents. You can almost, the joke is going to be the rhyme at the end. Right. And it prevents.
Starting point is 01:14:05 You can almost hear the joke sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's something I really stray away from personally. And this is no like dig on anybody who does it because there are a lot of people that do it really, really well. Randy Rainbow is a friend of the pod. Yeah. Dream guest.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Randy Rainbow. There's so many. Yeah. Randy Rainbow. Randy rainbow but we're all fans i haven't seen him in a while i've seen i only saw him at gutenberg in person oh yeah oh you mean like like like like i don't think he's been stumbling for biden as hard as uh i'm sure he still is i'm sure he's doing things sure i'd love to see. But I feel like in my live show that I've been doing this summer a lot, I have been doing a lot more music embedded into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:55 But sometimes the joke is about music. Sure. Like I do jokes about music because it comes from so much love of music. Like, and this is not to be like pompous or whatever, but like sometimes I do like this is an actual music joke. Like I have a joke in that I'm been or like a bit that I've been working on where it's like, why do all psychedelic rock or like prog rock songs kind of sound like this? And it's like a big strum of a guitar. And I'm like, bloody Satan, all your days of death. rock or like prog rock songs kind of sound like this and it's like a big strum of a guitar and i'm like bloody satan all your days of death like and and it's like oh i'm actually i'm doing what the music is and then it happens to be like that's what i think is funny about it for sure
Starting point is 01:15:38 for sure i don't know if that was a really long-winded no i think no yeah but i um i also am like uh i think that i i love i do love entertainment value so much sure like um when i go to a show especially like in the in the shows that i do i really want people to be excited and entertained from start to finish and um i'm like well why wouldn't i use this thing that i know and love so much sure sure as as a way to kind of build what all of these other things can like fit inside of. And I've been doing a thing too, of like an improvised song where I like, you know, state that I was a singer songwriter for a long time.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Would you mind if I like recorded a song here? And, and it's very real. Like, it's like, there's like a realness to it of like, all right. And,
Starting point is 01:16:44 um, could I get a little inspiration? I'm sort of like shitness to it of like all right and um could i get a little inspiration i'm sort of like shit out of luck of like a writer's block whatever and i get some inspiration from somebody and then i have i try and sing um like stupid stupid singer songwriter as possible um just because i'm i like like to nerd out about music things and singing things and like emulating the cheesiness and the whatever but it's like it's also really about it's also about a musician like it's not just like this is a song about how my rent is too high sure sure like that's about the joke yeah yeah and then it happens to be under music but i feel like anytime i like go for a music bit it's because
Starting point is 01:17:37 the music itself is funny sure there's something funny about the scenario having to do with music yeah um and that's the thing that i end up being like the most like excited about and i feel like the like little orphan thing was really built out of my love of like musical theater and like annie and like a trope of like a kid an orphan singing about a woe is me yeah but it's like that's something familiar that people like maybe understand or they've seen before sure of like oh it's like this is annie or something you know this is like something like annie um and yeah i feel like i i like to i don't even know if i'm being like as articulate as like how my mind thinks about it, but it's like, whatever the music is, I really hope that it's justified, like on my end. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:34 That like, I'm not doing it just because I know how to play a piano or something. I know how to play a piano or something. Do you ever, as, as you're doing all this comedy music, is there ever a part of you that goes like, I could just do the music. I could just not, not have the comedic element. Or do you think that's such a part of your DNA? Like sometimes I think even if I, if I, if I went back to musical theater, I haven't had to be that sincere for like a long time.
Starting point is 01:19:01 And music is, I joke when I saw Russell and Titanic, the part that was so uncomfortable was when he sincerely comes out of the beginning and goes like, we're at the Titanic. Wow. And I'm just like, what are you doing? You should have seen me at the end of the run though. We're at the Titanic.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Where's my lines? Where's my lines? Do you ever see it? Do you ever like go like, Oh, what if I could be, I don't know who you're like idols are like an earnest, like, or just, just be a musician.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Um, I feel like anytime I do something earnest, it's like, you're so close to a joke that I never feel like embarrassed or vulnerable. Yeah. Like even with musicians that I just love, they're also really funny. Like inherently.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Sure. There's always sometimes a little wink there. Yeah. Especially even if they're playing something like, oh, this is like a really heartfelt tune. It's like the next tune they might get into, like they're all partying on stage, going crazy and like being stupid and silly um and there's just i feel like there's always like a joke around the corner to like relieve an audience even if you know even if they're like oh my god i'm uncomfortable this is like too real yeah i love building up that and i feel like actually in a lot of the like more long-form comedy that I do, I really do build and build in the kind of
Starting point is 01:20:26 earnestness that you think I'm going to really start talking about something. Sure. I think it's the most fun to do. And I'm like, you know, having a problem or I'm talking about something that's really meaningful to me. And then all of a sudden a joke slips out there, but I'm still really just being meaningful and earnest. And then there's a little joke there and then and then i'm still and so then the audience is laughing but they're also listening and like yeah um it's fun to trick them i always love i try to do it but i i'm realizing joel kim booster when i first started stand-up comedy i like watched his conan o'brien set which was amazing but he ends it with a very long kind of emotional thing about his father and he looks like he's tearing up fully and then he does the punch and i'm like that's beautiful and yeah yeah and
Starting point is 01:21:11 that's that's where i one of the few times where i was like oh this is what i can bring to stand-up comedy with an acting background yeah that you know i couldn't in a different so it's so fun i i really think that even if you're doing something, my favorite actors who are really earnest and super genuine, they always have like a twinkle of mischievousness or like a twinkle of I could say anything right now kind of energy. And like a show like Succession or something where they're completely earnest. They're completely genuine. I would be laughing out loud for that show kind of sometimes more often than like a comedy show because I'm like, they're so genuine. They're like so genuine and it's like super fucking funny. And I feel like I gravitate to that a lot. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Because of like a theater background of an acting background of like when you're in play practice and you're like trying to do a really serious scene with someone you're so quick to be able to laugh if like something goes wrong of course like it's like it's so easy to just kind of like unleash that goofy side so quickly yeah and and i, I don't know that those are, that's so fun to me. And also the, the laughs are like, um, it's not like it has to be like more of like a vomit of of like laughing um which i find really fun like not a t not teasing but it's like there is a little bit of like a teasing quality to it yeah yeah yeah there's like certain like live plays that like that kind of thing where you're like like uh like in august the stage counters it was very funny and then you're like when it's like you're like it's so much enriching and like oh shit you know there's like
Starting point is 01:23:09 a real fun mix of that and i feel like this is back to the question of like would you ever do music stuff is like some of my favorite music people like um like like prince or something for instance sure there's like there can be a lot of like humor in the songs too like and not like i'm saying jokes or anything sure but there's like a theatricality like you know in like the band like parliament or something they'd sometimes come out and play like the hardest funk ever but like in a giant diaper yeah and like there's it's like they are goofy people like they're goofy types of people that know that they're gonna come out and sing a bunch of earnest shit that they have to sing all the time yeah but they are like we know we know that that's yeah like we're in on it and we're ready to laugh whenever you want to laugh too like there's all you know we're we're as close as you
Starting point is 01:24:12 are to like letting go um which yeah there's like a theatricality that that i i if i ever did like kind of music like that i feel like it would be like balls to the wall a little bit more like theatrical well let's go on to our next segment this has got to stop this has got to stop this is where we say something that needs to end annoying us bothering us big small personal grand
Starting point is 01:24:38 Russell do you have a this has got to stop I have two okay one is okay this is a phrase this has got to stop. I have two. Okay. One is, okay, this is a phrase. This has got to stop. The phrase screaming, crying, throwing up. Okay. Every once in a while in the zeitgeist, we come across a new phrase like this. And for the first, you know, when it's first used, people are like, oh, I love that.
Starting point is 01:25:04 You know, they're genuinely moving. But then in five years, it's like someone you went to high school with using it, overtaking their kids to see like the minions. Like, it's just like, it's like, and then it doesn't mean anything anymore. And then it's just like, you're, you're going through Instagram stories and half of them say screaming, crying, throwing up about any news that ever comes out ever. Do you know? And so I just I don't know. It's that specific phrase right now. But it really is a bigger thing of like any time those kind of phrases get used, there reaches a point where like we're all going to disagree.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Like we can't use that anymore. We got to find the new one. We need a zeitgeist we need we need someone because we need like someone who's uh i got enough influence that they can be like guys this is over yeah because eventually you know how these things spread one day my mom will say to me screaming screaming crying throwing up that's and that's when you know it's for me me. We're already at that, I think. Yeah, I agree. I was just talking to somebody and I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:26:10 They said it out loud. Well, they totally said that out loud along with, I would say, the longest slew of meme language I've ever experienced before in my life where it was like, say that. I'm screaming, crying, and throwing up. Say that. Hats off to that like because why for why and like my brother in christ yeah like it's just like god like they're just that everything that they everything that they responded with was an internet phrase yeah and i was like bro that can't be how your brain actually like constructs meaning in this
Starting point is 01:26:47 world yeah it's like through other people giving you the language and it's like i know what you mean i know what you're trying to say yeah but you're not saying it in any way that doesn't like it's like there is a huge wall up yeah let me yeah there's a huge wall up i would love to take that wall down and just have you say the words that come to you after those words because those words might be the first words that come to you because you've been reading them on the internet for so much sure was that person what age was that person probably my age 65 it was learn my class yeah yeah could you imagine i would be like i would be screaming crying throwing up
Starting point is 01:27:35 um my other one is this guy stopped uh jimmy carter's grandson giving us updates on him you know i think uh i think just let us know the big update you know I think what was the most recent I mean every so often it's like he's not like today or the other day was like he's not awake some days and you're like he's leading you through the decay process and it's it's just one of those sad things where you're like I you know it's hospice it's been a year and a half i think like we're at a point where and i feel bad because also this is where it's coming from is that whenever he gives an update there's a news article with it and they show a picture of the oldest skeleton
Starting point is 01:28:16 you've ever like it's like you person you've ever seen and it's just this thing where you're like and then it takes me three or four minutes to be like, Oh, like thinking about hospice and death and like, and, and I, and there's really not a much of an update. And so I just think like, let's just leave us out of it. I saw,
Starting point is 01:28:36 I saw his eyes today and I could see he knew there was no God. That is like an incredibly, that's an incredibly personal experience that i think that the son should just spend with the family yeah the grandson even like even though there was so much oh the grandson like even though there was so much that that person maybe did for the nation that the nation wants to hear actually just reserved i haven't looked into it i don't know what the grandson does because maybe he has a job where people are just asking him. And it's not really his main thing.
Starting point is 01:29:08 But maybe he has a job where he's in the limelight. People want to know how he's doing. So he's got to give updates. My biggest complaint is that literally right after he tweeted about his report about his grandfather, he tweeted, sometimes I wash my feet with cum. Oh, my God. Wait, no, no, no. He stole my tweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Oh my God. Wait, run that back. Wait, run the tape back. I'm pretty sure I said that in 2022. He got a lot more likes than you. He said, sometimes I get my feet washed with cum. Maybe you were- Parallel thinking.
Starting point is 01:29:39 No, it's not. Parallel thinking. You really- Listen. We can't be- I mean, he's on my internet. Yeah, he is on your internet.
Starting point is 01:29:49 That's not a coincidence. Those are mine. My this has got to stop and it's bigger than it seems. It's very individual. I have a show tonight and it's like my show and I gave someone free tickets because I know them from years ago and now I'm being bombarded with
Starting point is 01:30:06 what time does it start? What time do you go on? When does it end? I can get there at 8. Is it fine? We all know that. First of all, I'm curious. Has anyone ever on a night of SNL been like, hey, do you know where the parking, what the parking situation is? Dude, don't even get me started. That should probably be one of my things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:22 I mean, dude, like the amount of texts that you will get on a saturday it's like 7 45 it's like before you dress or whatever yeah yes and and it's like it's like hey any chance you have tickets for tonight oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like i'm like bro like it it gets me lit up like nothing else and people out of the woodwork where i'm like that my own brother has yet to see the show why do you think that is something i was gonna ask about because i'm like i can't imagine because like i can't imagine the random messages you must get about that kind of thing yeah um and that is because you don't even know how to respond
Starting point is 01:31:03 on some level. I'm sure you're like. Well, it's on Saturday. Yeah. A lot of people think that Saturday is the rejoicing celebration of a hard work week. Yeah. No, this is the most important day of my work week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:19 This is the most important day of work that I have. It'd be like somebody like on a big presentation you have like on Friday at work, just for all the people with regular jobs out there. We were talking like, you know, when you got that big presentation on a Friday for the big boss, Q3 report.
Starting point is 01:31:36 And then it's your wife. He's got big slips in his pocket. He's throwing them out. It's your wife nagging you saying, Hey, can you let me in the side door? I want to watch. And also are there drinks in the thing?
Starting point is 01:31:48 What should I bring? It's like, yeah, I love you. I can't wait to see you later. I'm at work. And people just forget that Saturdays work. Yeah. Totally work. We did an improv show two years ago can i
Starting point is 01:32:05 get any tickets like that is yeah so crazy it's um people in theater would always be like um they wouldn't ask for they'd be like do you know discount like you'd be like do you know do you got any discounts yeah and i like especially when i was doing gutenberg i was like i was like i spent 250 a ticket for my family to come yes no i don't have a discount no there are it just doesn't exist in theater yeah that no you're gonna have to like that's the best you can do or get a rush what do you get what do i get for cops uh i mean they're free i mean you could bring i mean how many how many people can you do you get two seats per show uh no i mean like it doesn't say it out loud the people are gonna be right i know
Starting point is 01:32:46 you get this beep this out uh no no this is fine but it's like it's more of like you have to know when to ask and when to not ask and when too much is so it's really not stated like it's not like two two per dress two per air it's like oh if I ask for four tickets this week because I want my parents and my brothers to come, I probably won't ask for a couple weeks. Yeah. So you'll be like, Lauren, I took improv 201 with this guy. I'm asking my boss for the tickets. He's like clearly not involved with the paper tickets going to people. Like the email of like where to enter on 49th Street.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Like, yeah, no, it's a bunch of lovely young women that I badger and I say, hey, what's it look like this week? And they're like, totally no or totally yes. Like your mom can come for the Mother's Day episode. That's it. Yeah. no or totally like your mom can come for the mother's day episode that's it yeah but i mean they're they're never like no but they're sometimes like dude i'm so sorry but it's crazy and i'm like the bottom of the totem pole so it's so it's like i'm sure other people can be like i'm getting my real estate broker in today and it's like i'm not there yet where it's like i haven't filled in like the top tier
Starting point is 01:34:05 of people in my life getting in that even if it's somebody and i have gotten people into the show uh like a bunch this this year but like if it's somebody that i'm like they do deserve a ticket at some point i might be like not yet of course but i probably could push but i don't want to push too hard every time totally i don't deserve those things it's like if if unless it's got to be your best bud yeah i got like i got a handful of friends that i'm like yeah in my mind it's like i would never think to be i would be like i'll wait for them to say I can, you know what I mean? Like in my mind. I always, I had that because I had friends on the show before I, I got on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:50 And I never asked because I was like, they, if I talked about like a music person that I really liked or whatever, and then they'd text me like, oh, they're playing. They're coming December 12th or something. I'd be like, please, I'll do anything. Yeah. But I was too nervous even to ask like some of my closest friends there because I was like. I just assume that they have so many aunts, so many uncles. Yeah. So many parents, dogs, cats, whatever they want to bring yeah one time i went to a dress rehearsal and uh it was funny because we got it through nicole and her um because she
Starting point is 01:35:33 was friends with someone that worked at nbc they don't anymore but their name was lauren michaels it was a female so when we had to like give our name to the thing, she's like, they're like, and who set this up? And Nicole was like, Lauren Michaels. And they were all like, and then she's like, they were like. Bring it to the front. Yeah. And then we really had to clarify. No, Lauren, a female.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Lauren. Lauren Michaels. Like people were all Ralph Lauren. Yeah. Yeah. but it was cool it was wild to see uh the sets up it's very impressive how small it is well just how fast everything moves the dressers that was like the craziest thing fall like on my ass a lot because there's like it's very tight squeeze and it's like it's so theater it's so much like theater it's like they're bringing the set's so much like theater it's like
Starting point is 01:36:25 they're bringing the set around and they're turning it and then they're setting up all the tables and stuff i have to go run to quick change or something there's enormous cables like thicker cables than like boa constrictors like why is that my size reference no anybody's seen one of those but it's like there's really thick cables and, you know, I'm running and they put me in like heels for something. And I'm like, eh. And I've like hip check somebody sitting in one of the seats there.
Starting point is 01:36:53 And I'm like, sorry. And it's just like, it happens a lot. And there's no like- It's like that's Kenan's real estate. Be careful. There's like, there's also no like, it's not like there's a safety person being like only exit through here exit here it's like get out as soon as you can because this is live and we're not
Starting point is 01:37:11 waiting for you so it's like get out of the way as soon as you can sure and so there's been lots of fall there's always lots of falls lots of tripping lots of sure yeah all the time um did you ever this got to stop i actually do i i've thought about one great um on my way here i've been seeing this a lot what's the thing that's like seven for all souls or something written on the ground it's this it's this person that it's this person that's been that's i guess been doing it for a while, but it's like quotes in white chalk on the sidewalk. It's like, are we going to fall in love this year? Seven for all souls. Like something like that.
Starting point is 01:37:55 And what is seven for all souls? I don't know if I'm getting that name of that right. We're just plugging it. But it's like, it's so melodramatic and Tumblr. Like it's so Tumblr. It hurts me. It's like somebody would probably take a photo of the thing with their shoes like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:12 And be like, my day in New York. Yeah. And I'm like, this can, there's no room for you here in the city. I'm going to look for it now. We're stepping and stomping all over it. And no, we're not going to fall in love this summer. No, no. No chance. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:38:27 It's too darn hot. It's too darn hot. I feel like there's I don't want that kind of sincerity on my sidewalk. Agreed. Not on my sidewalk. Not on my sidewalk. Let's go to our final segment. You better count
Starting point is 01:38:43 your blessings You better count your blessings We can see something we're thinking for Specific Your mouth is open I'll go first unless you want to go I don't want to go first I just, I'm listening to the track
Starting point is 01:38:57 Oh yes, that's Douglas Goodheart Douglas Goodheart from Uncle Fudge He'll be on an episode very soon My blessing Sometimes after shows I'm still at the merch table. It's tough. It can be a lot. But I love just like two shows and in the between shows, you're just taking pictures.
Starting point is 01:39:17 You're hawking. But I want to be there. I'm grateful. I really do like when I see a couple that is, they're going to break up. And you can feel it. And you can feel it in the level of anger, usually of the woman getting mad at the boyfriend for not being able to figure out the camera
Starting point is 01:39:37 fast enough on the phone. There is sometimes I can feel this like, I'm like, oh, you are mad about way more than the phone camera right now. And just a real like, you imbecile. Yeah. Can't even get the fucking phone to work. And the blessing part of it is that I get to watch it and I go like, oh, my girlfriend and I were in a good place. We can take a picture without too much fighting.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Yeah. And it's fascinating. Yeah. Couples come in, some couples, one guy, he said, take a picture of us
Starting point is 01:40:12 prior to last together. We just broke up. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, why do we do this for the crowd? We're part of the show. We're doing this after
Starting point is 01:40:18 someone get a camera. But it's, you really get to see people. A brief little window. I saw like a sad fight on the uh like a quiet sad crying fight on the train the other day like drunken they were why didn't you say hi to us um and it was like you guys were doing okay it was like better than that one couple it was like no one was on the trains it was like me and this couple and then there were other people
Starting point is 01:40:42 further down and the only part i heard from it because they were kind of whispering and like she was crying and he was like really upset and the only part i heard from it was this she goes because that's my trauma and he goes but we were talking about my trauma and i was like wow that honestly that encapsulates all fights if you really think about it. But that's my trauma. We were talking about my trauma. This is, I want to. That's beautiful. Put it in a play.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Wait, can I, I want to, I want to double back on the last segment and say, cut it out with the therapy speech. I know. Yeah. Cut it out. Yeah. Don't do that to me. It's too much. Speak to me do that to me it's too much speak to me speak to me well i think it's also it's that it's also like the like always like well i don't want to say well i don't want to phrase it this
Starting point is 01:41:34 way or you're not supposed to put it like this it's like sometimes you just gotta fucking tell someone how you're feeling yeah and therapy speech and like i'm not not like complaining about pc but it's just like we're speaking the right way and you don't ever say the thing you're actually upset about yeah it's just intellectualizing it and it's like it's so weird when it it's so weird when people are like well that's my boundary and it's like no that's you being a full-on cockhead dick person this is not talking about anybody specifically but it's like feels like it feels like it yeah it's like it's it's just insane what people will call like gaslighting what people will call boundaries what people will call trauma yeah
Starting point is 01:42:13 they're like well my trauma is that i actually was i've always been very dehydrated yeah it's like my parents got divorced when i was a kid. Yeah. It's like they really can't. Somebody. Just kidding. Just kidding. What's up with that? Do you have a blessing? I do.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Weird week. Well, this is not the blessing part. A sad week. My cousin passed away. sad week. I, my cousin passed away. Um, but, um, I, I, and I, so I feel really bad for members of my family who, you know, it was sudden and unexpected and horrible. And, um, I'm my two cousins who are the siblings, um, were, I mean, I, I just, it's been a long time since I've like, they've always been there for me and I just feel bad for them. And they were like sisters to me kind of growing up. And I am thankful for that.
Starting point is 01:43:13 I've that they're a part of my life and so close. And I'm also thankful for you because we were supposed to do something the other day and you were very sensitive and thoughtful about letting me not do that i was just in a very weird headspace obviously when i found out so um so i get i don't know i'm kind of rambling i'm having a hard time talking i'm also not wanting to like of course share too much but it's just like it's just that stage of life and you were saying your your father is one of 12 and you think about just like, there's just life. There's so much life to deal.
Starting point is 01:43:47 There's so much life in that like family of being one of 12. So you're like, you're constantly kind of being like, Oh, that's happening through this person's going through this thing. And this person's. And so you're like, there's always something.
Starting point is 01:43:58 It can be. Yeah. Um, but you know, we love you, buddy. Love you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Um, top that. No, don't. We love you, buddy. Love you. Thank you. Top that. No, don't. I just want to say I'm actually really grateful that you said that. No, my family's really big on my dad's side, too. And it's totally like every day of the year is like it's someone's birthday. It's someone's anniversary. It's someone going through something
Starting point is 01:44:25 and it makes you really be like wow there's always somebody else's life that I actually can look at instead of mine to be like yeah hey get out of yourself and like yeah go walk over and talk to them because they're part of your family and they really care about you and you care about them and actually might also side effect, help you get out of your own. Yeah. If you really want your mom, why don't you give them some tickets to SNL? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Some are some July tickets to SNL. So it's a rerun and it's just, it's no one's there, but I can get you a tour. So this is coming out, as I said, July 2nd. Where can people find you? They can find me at that time probably doing some of my shows on tour. I meant online.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Oh, sorry. But whatever you like. You can catch me. You can catch me on my Instagram. Great. Chloe Trost. And my TikTok. Do you want people looking up these videos from your mom, or do you never want them to see the light of day?
Starting point is 01:45:32 Go for it. There's some gems in there. And when I was closer in age to it, I was mortified. But now I'm like, oh, my God. That was 10 years ago. It's so cool. It's just cute. Now it's just home videos.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. Feel free. YouTube. My mom, Joni Trost. Uh,
Starting point is 01:45:54 yeah. And then, uh, when is, when is SNL back? Um, in September, I think.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Check out SNL. Check it out. Check out SNL. If you haven't heard of it. Yeah. It's a sketch, um, I think. Check out SNL. Check it out. Check out SNL if you haven't heard of it. Yeah. It's a sketch acting show. Sunday Night Live. What do you have for people to find you?
Starting point is 01:46:16 At Russell J. Daniels on Instagram. And then come to our live tour, The Downside. Yeah. July 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th. Yeah. Those four nights. The city's not in order. Go for it in order. I'm not there yet.
Starting point is 01:46:30 D.C. D.C. Boston. Boston. Oh. D.C. Boston. Think about it geographically.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Oh, it's not. It's actually. Yeah, we tried. D.C. Boston. Philly. New York. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:46:44 I would love for it to be like a line yeah but that's what you can tell guys if you really want to know where someone's career is that look at their travel schedule and the longer the lines are between dates that's the more they couldn't get what they wanted yeah but it's gonna be great it's gonna be amazing again i know a lot of you you're right you say dublin let me tell you maybe one one day, but there is the first step in the many steps it would take for us to get to Dublin. Is Philly being sold
Starting point is 01:47:12 out? Well, Philly, I would say isn't too dissimilar from Dublin. Yeah. Irish people? Yeah, we just mean getting Russell there. Yeah. Oh, you don't have a passport? No, I think making it financially just try make it make sense yeah in theory we could go anywhere we could go anywhere and we will are you gonna wait are you gonna go to the tony's no i'm not invited
Starting point is 01:47:36 fuck them no but but he's allowed to go to the dress rehearsal earlier. Yeah. A rerun. Understudy joke. Me, guys, I'm going to be in Syracuse July 17th. Oh, I'll be there too. You'll be there too? You want to do some time on the show? No.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Please. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. We got my show, Theater Adult. I am interviewing Natalie Walker at Caveat July 7th, and she's going to sing, and we're going to talk all about her theater adults and the terrible off-Broadway play we did together.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Oh, that sounds fun. I want to come to that. Hey, come. You know what? You can have a cup. Wow. And on July 28th, I will be in LA at the Elysian Theater. Robbie Hoffman
Starting point is 01:48:27 and Joel Kim Booster are my guests. That's the silver lining. That's my new material. Very good lineup. And then I go to Australia and we just added a second show to Melbourne.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Wait. Second show to Sydney. That's incredible. Thank you. You hear that, guys? You better fucking be there. Brisbane, Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, and Auckland. Get those tickets now because most of them are going to sell out.
Starting point is 01:48:49 And yeah, guys, just remember, if your feet are hurting, just wash them with cum. This is, that's the quote, right? Yeah, that is the quote. You said, oh, like I like was totally out of left field. Just out of nowhere. Everyone's uncomfortable. This is the downside. One, oh, I was totally out of left field just out of nowhere. Everyone's uncomfortable. This is The Downside. One, two, three.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Downside. You're listening to The Downside. The Downside. With Gianmarco Ceresi.

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