The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi - #234 Malaysian Cancel Culture with Dr. Jason Leong

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

Dr. Jason Leong shares the downsides of joking about religion in Malaysia, what to do if your podcast co-host shoots you, different cultures' opinion on imitating accents, and we debate if doctors are heroes.  You can watch full video of this episode HERE! Join the Patreon free for 7 days for ad-free episodes, exclusive content, and MORE. Follow Jason on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, & X See Jason in a city near you! https://shows.jasonleong.my/ Follow The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, & YouTube Subscribe to Gianmarco Soresi's email & texting lists Check out Gianmarco Soresi's bi-monthly show in NYC Get tickets to see Gianmarco Soresi in a city near you Watch Gianmarco Soresi's special "Shelf Life" on Amazon Follow Russell Daniels on Twitter & Instagram E-mail the show at [e-mail] Produced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco Soresi Video edited by Dave Columbo Technical production by Chris Mueller Special Thanks Tovah Silbermann Original music by Douglas Goodhart Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Welcome to The Downside. My name is DeMarcus Serezi. Our guest noticed a little horse. You're a little horse. Not too bad. Oh!

There it was. Were you partying? Was I partying? Have I ever partied in my life? I did 11 shows. Oh, okay. 11 sold out shows in Toronto at the comedy bar. And I'm fucking, I'm fucking fried. Yeah. Destroyed. I did

a podcast taping with Laura Ramosa in Toronto. Phenomenal comedian. Uh, uh, and uh, yeah, I'm a mess. Yeah. When'd you get back this morning? I just got back. I got my beer trimmed cause we're filming this and then i i this is the the least i have less notes i'm only 20 minutes through your second netflix special jason it's uh so forgive me if i don't if i can't quote all the jokes but but i i i haven't seen you in forever it feels like a long time but i looked it up it's actually not that long it was only like two weeks. There was one time.

So Russell's a man. Yes. And I just want- Russell's a man? Once Russell called me, like he's not a phone guy. Like you feel as you talk to him, you're like, hey, so the doctor said it's not looking good for my dad. And you can hear him in his answers how he's like, oh, okay. All right.

Well, yeah. So give me an update. That's not fair. Like you just feel. See, that's not fair because I think you called me the other day and I felt like you were doing that. You called me and I felt like you were the one being like. Once in a while. And I was like, oh, okay.

Well, that's quick. But you can feel Russell's like he's like, he once called me and he said, hey, I just wanted to call to tell you something. And I was like, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I remember that. That's generally the whole premise of friendships, relationships, phone calls, communication.

Yeah. But for you, it was so foreign. It was. You had to preface it. It was, hey, I just wanted to. Well, I think some people, people, you calls, communication. Yeah. But for you, it was so foreign. It was. You had to preface it. It was, hey, I just wanted to. Well, I think some people, people, you know, different, you like the phone. And I think a lot of people don't like it these days. I'm normal about the phone.

Yeah. I don't think I'm that unnormal. My friend Chris, our real friend Chris, he's an hour. He's on the phone with everyone. And we start talking. And I, you know, I need to put more time on my friendship. So he always talks. And I go, just do it.

And I start doing chores. But I don't know how he gets anything done. Because I'm like, when I talk to him too, it's great. And it goes on for a long time. But I wonder, I'm like, if he's doing this with me, how many people he's doing a day like this? Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

It would be interesting to see his phone records. How are you like on the phone? What about video calls? How are you guys? Okay. I hate. Yes. I fucking hate video calls.

I hate video calls. Yeah. That's how I know. Because you can't do other things. And also that's how I know you have no children. Because when you have a kid, you must have that video call with your kid. Because when you're away touring, whatever, it's the only way you can get your kid to recognize, oh, this is your parent.

And, you know, so they don't forget you. Oh, yeah. When are you video calling when they're at school? No, no. Oh, because you're traveling. Traveling, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was the first thing you got that we have no children?

It wasn't the fact that we look like we can barely take care of ourselves? This is the downside. This is The Downside. You're listening to The Downside. I think listeners at home will realize we played on the big speakers and not on our headphones. That was slick. That was so slick. This is The Downside and that's it slick that was so slick oh my god this is the downside

and that's it that is so cool I gotta learn that I gotta learn that when I do my own podcast that was so slick now do you

do people you go hey I'm a doctor say doctor should I introduce you as Dr. Jason Leong no I stopped doing that a long time ago

no when I'm on stage I guess the Dr. Jason Leong is like a stage name now. It's become a stage name. But I'm not one of those people who like, oh, excuse me, it's Dr. Jason.

It's very icky. So just call me Jason. Do you still have a license to practice medicine? No, that was suspended long. No, not suspended. It just lapsed a long time ago because you have to keep practicing to keep the license so i quit medicine 10 years ago okay so right now if one of us had like a medical emergency

right in this room yes what is like the most advanced what would have to happen where you're like i could maybe save their life oh okay so here's the thing you shot no gun gunshot oh yeah it's very unlikely you'll survive a gunshot even with a doctor see he's in his leg you just go here's the thing in a leg okay fine but here's the thing right most people don't and so sorry to start on such a macabre note but this is the downside yeah but a lot of people don't realize this that a doc doctors are quite useless without their equipment without their without the hospital so like there's nothing much you can do apart from you know cpr is important of course but cpr is not always um uh successful you know it's not it doesn't always

end up in uh in the guy magically come back to life you know can i tell you if john marco got shot in the leg here's how i would handle it and and you tell me if this is the right thing to do. Okay, go. Okay, he gets shot in the leg. I'm going to get a tourniquet. What the fuck? I'm going to get a tourniquet to tie above the wound. Yes.

Tie as tight as I can. Yes. And then we'll stop the bleeding like this. I think you're mixing it up with snake bite. Okay. Right? Okay, so... But wait, there's a tourniquet, right? Like, you want to like. Okay. Right? Okay, so, okay. But wait, there's a tourniquet, right?

Like, you want to, like... Okay, let me answer it my version. So, you get shot in the leg. Uh-huh. Ow! I start pissing on it. No, that's... That's even better.

Jellyfish. Okay, that's how you stop the gunshot wound. That'll distract him. He'll go, what are you doing? And I'll be like, but you don't feel pain anymore now. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing how you can still

there's no stage fright your friend is dying and you're just gonna piss oh yeah no stage fright no stage fright at all no I think with a gunshot

you don't tie a tourniquet above the gunshot oh when it's bleeding out you apply a lot of pressure to hopefully stop the bleeding oh okay

yeah and you know like in movies where you know let's say the hero gets shot and he goes to the hospital and then they remove the bullet. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Not always the case. You don't always have to remove the bullet because the bullet is not, it's a foreign

object, but it's not dirty because when the bullet is shot, it's so hot, it's sterile. Right? Does it just work its way out of your skin at some point? No, sometimes certain cases, they leave it inside. My grandfather, get this. My grandfather was shot in the head and survived. And the doctor said it was a miracle. We knew he just had terrible aim.

Who? But, okay. This is true. So this is before my mom was born uh-huh my uh i don't know if my grandfather was like involved in mafia stuff he's in real estate uh but he got shot so so someone came in someone came broke into the house maybe just some breaking in shot my grandfather in the head. Another mafioso. Kidnapped my grandmother and put her in a trunk while she was pregnant with my uncle. And they ultimately, my grandfather survived. My grandma, they got her. The baby lived.

But it's in newspapers. It was before my mom was born. Wait, what do you mean you don't know if your grandfather was in the mob? He definitely was in the mob. He is in the mob. Do you know what I mean? Not everyone who gets shot is in the mob. People who get kidnapped are in the mob.

If someone is getting shot in the head and you're taking the family and you don't know, there's questions around it. What do you think? And they're Italian. Sorry. I was about to go there. I wanted to go there, but I'm a guest here. But he's in the mob. He was in the mob.

You get that's going on right now in America? Like all the high schoolers are in the mob? No, shut up. That what's going on right now in America like all the high schoolers are in the mob no shut up that's a different thing I'm sure that's a different thing the thing you described though is definitely a mob

like retaliation thing based on what? you didn't even know how to treat a gun wound and now you know where the wound has come from you're the only one

you presented we don't know if he was in the mob that's how you started this whole thing sure it's in the papers like you can google it

it's a true story so your dad your grandfather was in real estate yeah mob selling must be

it must be a bad deal right overpriced overpriced okay you knew he was Jewish too yeah so

I would shoot my real estate agent too yeah so I would shoot my estate agent so many I would shoot him and then piss on the gunshot wound yeah well

Jason before before we get deep into your life there's one thing I wanted to say oh I

sorry I just I just got wait I have one more doctor question go for it please you have one more you have ten more

no my thought because you said you didn't said you don't care if people call you doctor, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah. Do you, as someone who was a real doctor, not that there's not, you know, people get their doctorates, you know. Sure. But sometimes people are insistent on being called doctor, and then it's like for like reading. And you're like, do you know what I mean? So do you have any I mean? Like, so do you have any feelings about that as someone who's a real doctor?

You're talking about Dr. Joe Biden. Oh, I wasn't. No, I don't think she's like weird about it being a doctor. Is it? That was, that was a big Republican thing where they were like,

she calls herself a doctor. No. Okay. People do do that. And I always kind of roll my eyes unless you're a medical doctor. I'm sorry. I do. I guess the call me I'm sorry I do. I guess call me a

Republican. I do. But I'm thinking very specifically of someone, a teacher that like in my schooling years had to be called doctor something. And you're like when you like got older, you're like, oh, he's a doctor of band teacher. He's a doctor of like, yeah, music or something. And you're like,

okay, you know, like I think fine if you're having students call you doctor blah, blah, blah. But I think it's weirder when you're like okay you know like i think fine if you're having students call you doctor blah blah yeah but i think it's weirder when you're like going to their wedding and on their wedding thing it says doctor you're like you're a doctor reading shut the fuck up like do you know what i mean like i think that's weird i think it's weird if you're a medical doctor to go to someone's wedding and it says doctor so and so why or if you're if you're like a stand-up comedian yeah and you just use it as like a stage name. It would be crazy for any profession to do that.

Yeah, it's weird. Oh, no, but I have two things. I think the first thing is I've met people who are like, you know, they have a PhD and they go on really high. They're really, really smart. And the ones who are really, really smart, they don't care. Exactly.

They don't care. It's the ones who are insecure, like a comedian who is trying to do stand-up and he has the medical degree before that that's one um so you know when you're in the upper echelons you don't they don't really care right i i know people who are okay if you call them by their by just their name but they're like super smart yeah um but then also in malaysia the problem is like it's so easy to get a PhD in anything right and it's easy wait no pause what?

is that in Malaysia or here? in Malaysia I don't know but PhD here that's a lot I'll give you an example right so I once heard on the radio this woman's like oh talking about

energy healing okay and she goes like oh if it doesn't work it's because you don't believe in it enough okay and then she introduced

her name as let's say let's call it Dr. Jessica blah blah blah and believe in it enough okay and then she introduced her name as let's say let's call it Dr. Jessica blah blah blah and I got enraged so I googled her name and yes

there's Dr. Jessica not the real name but Dr. Jessica and she has a PhD I kid you not in world peace oh

like how would you get so number one how would you get a PhD in world peace in something that has never existed, one. And then number two.

Well, she's going to teach us all how. And then number two, if you have a PhD in world peace, who the F, who the fuck are you to talk about energy healing? It's not related. But when you present yourself as Dr. Jessica talking about energy healing, it lends you some credibility. Unless, you know, someone deranges me, we'll go and Google her name and become upset. Oh, doctor in world peace.

That is so funny. Yeah. So, well, I got to talk about it because, well, let me say we have Dr. Jason Leong on the show. Thank you. Hello. Hello. You're from Malaysia, correct? Yes.

Real quick, Russell, tell me everything you know about malaysia um i've never been uh okay correct what should i know ding ding ding no just anything it's beautiful it's hot what are countries that it's right next to um you know i hate when you do this because it's so mean do you know what he does you know what he does probably probably on it probably why he's five minutes late yes is he's looking at a map so he can like call me out on it because he knows. And I'm sorry, I don't Google every single person and know every single country and what it borders on. Our geography skills are pathetic. But hold on.

Assuming he did that. So the follow up question is why didn't you? I mean, why did you Google it? My name is not in the title of the podcast okay fair enough they they covered at least in my my american history it was uh they covered malaysia in your american no that's a problem like it started for my my history it really felt like it started uh second grade it'd be like you'd learn about another culture so like second grade we did japan and we learned like but then past that it was just like america america america america then when he got into world war ii we revisited japan yeah and

japan visited us and and so we like learned a little bit about europe and then and then you learned about china from the news but like they never unless you chose specific history classes in high school or studied in college we did not touch asia bear we barely touched barely barely barely touched canada we barely touched mexico well i don't know if there's a reason that Canada doesn't come up a lot, you know, in things. Sure. Like bigger events, you know. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure things have happened there. I was about to announce our live Toronto show,

but great. So here's what I think I know about Malaysia, and I'll be honest in my ignorance about the things I think I know about Malaysia. Near China. Not China. Not part of China okay okay great uh I I believe that's oh this is humiliating that's where is that right now where the all the chips are being

built that are really complicated uh sort of yeah not really uh so the the the the number one chip manufacturers is Taiwan. And now we are aiming, we are about, we are trying to. That's what I meant. But we're not really there. Yeah, really not there. And I'm hoping personally. Also, shout out to Chris for not helping us one goddamn bit with Googling anything. Because when John Margo does this, I would love to just be like, oh, actually, I do know and see it up there.

And technically, it's not near China because we are nearer other countries apart from China. But OK, it's not China. That's great for an American. OK, OK. Here's where Malaysia came. I heard about more. One, I feel like whenever our country started talking about fast fashion and like where clothes were being manufactured in a way where people were not being paid properly, it was Malaysia. Oh, I didn't know that.

Oh, that's new. Maybe I'm wrong. Fuck me. And then Malaysia Airlines. Oh, yes. The flight. I watched that whole documentary about that. MH370, yeah.

It's a tragedy. Yeah. We still haven't found a plane and that bugs me out. oh yes the flight I watched that whole documentary about that MH370 yeah it's a tragedy yeah we still haven't found a plane and that bugs me out I just realized that before this podcast Jamarco and I

we have a very tenuous very invisible link you and I yeah even before not in comedy not in comedy

this is interesting at the start but then it gets it dies down right check this out okay i believe based on my research you have done extra work for the movie wolf of wall street all right yes i have yes okay okay so now here's this is true right wolf of wall street was funded partially by stolen money from Malaysia. You know the movie production, the Red Granite films? Yes.

So that was headed by the stepson of our former prime minister, right? And our former prime minister orchestrated a deal with this fugitive named Jho Low to take Malaysian taxpayers' money and he just siphoned it off to his cronies, including his stepson. deal with this fugitive named Jho Low to take Malaysian taxpayers money and he just siphoned it off to like his cronies including his stepson and he used part of the money to fund

Wolf of Wall Street. So how much money does Jamarco owe you? I've done the math so I'm a taxpayer so my former prime minister stole some of my money and some of the money went to pay him. So one, one trillionth of your extra salary

comes from my taxpayer money. So what's $75 divided by? One, one trillionth. One, one trillionth. I think technically you owe me money. Yes, yes. And the prime minister in question is in jail now

for six years my stepfather hasn't given me shit yeah so that's the link we have did the movie get in trouble for anything

or no so here's the thing so if you read the book about the fugitive Jolo so Jolo was the mastermind in all this and the prime minister

was involved the movie is about Jordan Belfort right yes right he's a scammer, right? Scammer, yeah. So when this movie was launched and whatever, Jolo, the mastermind, he had like a party to celebrate the launch of the movie and it was a lavish party. Millions were poured into the

party and they invited Jordan Belfort, right? And Jordan Belfort went to the party and he said, this is all scam money. Because no one, he says, no one spends his own money like this. So a scammer could not sniff out the scam. It's in the book called The Billion Dollar Wheel. So that's the link we have, Gianmarco and I. I've paid him some money. That's incredible.

Yeah. One trillionth of, is it really $75? I mean, it must have been it was non-union extra work and i worked for probably three four days and maybe maybe what no overtime i don't think so i feel like i was paid 112 bucks a day and it was brutal it was it was the day i was on set yeah the day the sandy hook shooting So it was an extra hard day for me. So that's the link we have. That's what you took away.

You took a pun from the super fucked up joke. So, okay. Can you tell us a brief summation of Malaysia's history? Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. of Malaysia's history? Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. So Malaysia was independent from the British in 1957.

Yeah. And then shortly after that, so that was just a part of Malaysia, but Malaysia was fully formed in 1963 with Singapore. Okay. So Singapore was part of Malaysia. Great.

And then two years later, we kicked Singapore out and now they are 100 times more successful than we are. Bad move on our part. Why would you kick them out? Because of, I would say, internal politics. Like Lee Kuan Yew wanted something else for Singapore and then the rest, like, nah, you're making too much noise.

So they kicked them out. And then ever since then, Malaysia has just, Malaysia has strived on its own, but not as well as Singapore. As an American, the concept of being able to kick just some parts of us out or just leave.

I've become more of a secessionist than I used to be. I mean, I definitely think there's a lot of Americans that share your thing and you just might not agree with them. I think maybe I do. As an American,

I think maybe I do. I would love to kick out huge swaths of Americans. Who would you like to kick out? I'm just curious. Okay, one state. Pick one state. One state? Let me look at my touring calendar before I pick this one.

I don't know. There's probably lovely people in every state. It's not their fault if they have a crazy state government. Yes. We're just big. The bottom line is we're too big. And we all know this. We are big. We're too big. Right. We cannot be this big and have a crazy state government. The bottom line is we're too big and we all know this. We're too big.

We cannot be this big and have a president. We should not have Hawaii. We should not have Hawaii. We should give it back. We should give it back. As a non-American, I think Alaska. It's so weird. I love both of you places. I've never been to Alaska. I don't know if I love you.

But I it doesn't feel that's where it's like we really I love both of you places. I've never been to Alaska. I don't know if I love you, but I, I, I, they, it doesn't feel, it feels, that's where it's like, we really, that's not even,

there's no comedy clubs in Alaska. So I say, bye bye Alaska. It's weird, right? To be, to be part of a country, but separated by another country.

It doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me. Whenever I see the map, like, Oh, Oh, Oh, America's here too.

Like it's weird. Like Puerto Rico. They, they don't, they don't get to fucking like vote and the fucking shit, but they're part of the thing. It's bad yeah it's very weird yeah yeah um okay so you were born there yes sir and uh kind of fascinated i'm trying to go to singapore oh really i better let my singapore history is like a friend that lives there history uh yeah yeah no i have

this idea uh-huh so i want to go i want to, I want to go to Tokyo so badly. Nice. And then Singapore and then Hong Kong if it's available. And so what I want to do is I want to like start a new

social media channel where I get my jokes dubbed over or I get like subtitled. Like I want to like explore like how can I make a version that could like spread over there and use that to sell tickets. I make a version that could spread over there and use that to sell tickets.

I think that would be so cool. You just came back from Australia, right? You did a whole tour in Australia. Yeah, it's great. So in between, so we are in between

and Malaysia is a great comedy scene but you have to enter with your American passport because we are a bit unfriendly towards Jews. Oh, really? Yeah.

Really? Why? Because Malaysia is a secular nation we are a bit unfriendly towards Jews. Oh, really? Yeah. Really? Why? Yeah, because Malaysia is a secular nation, but Islam is the official religion. And I don't know a fucking thing

about Malaysia, dude. And ever since, from the very beginning, they've been very pro-Palestine, whatever. Our passport- If they look at my Twitter, they're like,

for your passport, look at these last 10 tweets. You should print out your Twitter. Look at these hate emails I got from the fish festival. Oh my Twitter. Yeah, exactly. You should print out your Twitter. Look at these hate emails I got from the fish festival. Oh my God. Our passports

don't allow us to go to Israel. Oh, interesting. we can't go and neither can Israel come to Malaysia.

Yeah. So, so that's that. But Malaysia is great, great comedy scene. Singapore, Singapore has the

best comedy scene, but Hong Kong and Tokyo and even Bangkok, Indonesia, Indonesia is is growing up there's a huge market for comedy

English comedy in Indonesia so you can you can do all this Southeast Asia tour and you'll be busy for like a month so okay

so Malaysia it's a pretty secular place as it's well in the constitution it's secular but as as countries go nowadays it's becoming increasingly, you know,

right-wing, fundamentalistic. So the roots have taken in. Yeah. Is your right wing, is it associated with anti-vaccine stuff as well? No, it's more nationalism. It's more nationalism. Keep people out.

Yeah, well, that too. We have that too. For example, we had Rohingya refugees and they were like, no, not in my backyard. nationalism keep people out yeah well that too we have that too for example we had Rohingya refugees and they were like no not in my backyard so that's that too

but that is not like you know in America obviously the right wing right now is very much tied in with anti-vaccine rhetoric and it's not the same

no no no when it comes to when it comes to the vaccine we were pretty much let's get vaxxed the whole country we had an uptick about 95% 96% so we were quite okay with that yeah pretty much let's get vaxxed the whole country we had an uptake about 95%

96% so we were quite okay with that yeah he's still not vaxxed oh god there's so much neither of us know about the world I know

and that's what I've tried to figure out when I go to these countries like you know I like to go somewhere I like to say something a little inappropriate I know that's not I can't do that in Hong Kong.

Yes, it depends. Like, I think. Wait, what happens? I mean, like. I mean, well, Hong Kong used to have. Like, worst case scenario. Let's see if I got this right. Hong Kong used to have some degree of independence.

It was, it was England that was associated with it. Yes. And let go of it. Yes. Under the, under some rule that they had an independent government or were independent from so it's a one country two systems so in 1997

the British handed over Hong Kong back to China right and at the time China was like hey guys relax there's one country

two systems meaning we're all one country but Hong Kong has been a independent port for a long time right

so they have their own they have separate laws and they have like a degree of freedom that is not accorded to in the rest of China yeah

but over the years of course China has started to assert control over Hong Kong so in a way like if you meet people in Hong Kong

and they'll say yeah the spirit has of Hong Kong has changed a bit there were some intense protests in Hong Kong against they'll say, yeah, the spirit has, Hong Kong has changed a bit. There were some intense protests in Hong Kong against the Chinese government kind of overtaking things

and then it was just, you can't fucking be, you're not gonna win that. The peak of it was, I believe, during COVID or 2019. 2019, the peak of it,

they had 2 million people out on the streets protesting and that's a city of 7 million. So one in every three was on the streets protesting. There's a city of seven million so one in one in every three was on the streets protesting uh there's a particular law that they try to pass so um hong kong had a is hong kong is really vibrant i would say some people say it's like the new york of asia uh-huh yeah but the spirit has has changed a little bit so like the person i worked with in

australia his name's i think i can say all this his name's Andy Curtin and works with a BOHM bomb. Yeah. It's a, it's a promoting company. So they set up the whole tour. Yeah. But he used to have a club in Hong Kong. Yes. And he just talked about, you know, there was more freedom to, to, to speak on things.

But then once things changed, there was always pressure. It never was like America. Yeah. And he said there was like one show and someone was in the back like in a suit taking notes and that's how you know he's like

oh fuck and you know there's probably there's bribery of like you know please don't say anything but like

I just know if I went to a place I'm gonna wanna make like some kind of edgy joke that's the thing yeah that's the thing yeah

will you get punished or will the club get punished I'll get I'll I mean who knows yeah

who knows but I know President Trump's not making a trade for me. For you, no. Recently, there was a comic in China who made a joke, something along the lines of using a, he used a military song to encourage his dog

who was fighting another dog. And they was like, oh, you're making fun of the military. So he was he was I think he he kind of did the bit too well yeah

I'm sure it's funny thank god if you bombed and they said you're under arrest and by the way that bit sucked so the club

I think the club was shut down his management company was fined like 1.4 million US dollars equivalent and he has kind of disappeared

like he's no longer doing standup. So that's how hard the hammer can fall. Oh my God. And this is, so even in Malaysia, so we had, this is a,

I've talked about this before, but in Malaysia, we had a full-time comic club called the Crack House Comic Club. It was. Crack House. Yeah. I mean, it really is.

It's playing off like crack. Like C-R-A-I-C crack as in that's good crack you know the Irish word for having a good time oh so it's but is it also playing off

like a crack house a crack house no I don't to be honest I wouldn't know I wouldn't know right sure

so it was called the Crack House Comedy Club and it was run by my friend and it was opened in 2014 and it was a great club you would have loved performing there it's amazing right it holds opened in 2014. And it was a great club. You would have loved performing there. It's amazing, right?

It holds 120 people max. Perfect. And it's really beautiful. Everyone who has performed there says it's a great club. And for my money, it was the best club in Asia. Okay?

Wow. So in 2022, a woman came on one of the open mic shows. And she was wearing, she's a Muslim girl, but she was wearing a hijab and conservative outfit. And then she said, hi, girl but she was wearing a hijab and conservative outfit

and then she said hi my name is so and so and i'm a muslim and i'm a muslim but then she takes off all her clothes and she's wearing like lingerie underneath okay so her boyfriend recorded it oh the club like was horrified okay you're banned for life never come back here again so they were in retaliation the boyfriend's like the boyfriend uploaded the clip say hey look the audience was clapping why you why are you why are you banning her within hours like it it spread like wildfire because people like this is insulting to islam you know how can you do this and then that became how can this club allow uh this kind of kinds of insults to our religion so within 24 less than

24 hours he was uploaded on at 9 a.m on a saturday by that night uh the club was raided yeah by religious officials i i happen to be religious government officials yes yes the the the the federal uh the federal agency of, that handles Islamic affairs. Even though it's secular, they still have this. They have, they have all that. So they raided,

with cops, they raided the club and, and, and the club got shut down. Right? The club was shut down. You were there when it happened?

I happened to be there because, Was it, were you on stage? No, no, no, I was there, I happened to be there

and then they, they stopped the show and then, so we just, we all just went up to see what's going on and it was raided. And shortly after that, my friend who owns the club, he owns the club. He's a comic himself. So when the mob got upset, the mob then, hey, he's a comedian too. Let's check out.

And he had some jokes which made, he had some jokes which involves religion, but it's not he's not directly attacking religion but they were like oh this is insulting our religion and he's also

Muslim by the way but that doesn't matter so and he was ultimately arrested and he spent one night in jail just one night

of course and then there was a court case going on and he eventually he pled guilty and he paid a fine for it

but you see that's how hard the hammer can fall when it falls it falls very suddenly is that video online is it no it's not online

it's not I think it might be online but if you go if you just google crack house comedy club shut down if you put

H I hijab panties will come right up I don't think so it's something else yeah oh immediately incognito mode wait okay okay wait hijab panties will come right up. I don't think so. It's something else. Oh,

immediately incognito mode. Wait, okay, okay, wait. But that's like when Americans, comedians are like, you can't say anything anymore.

You're like, what are you talking, like here. Exactly. And you're like, people getting literally arrested. I'd love for Joe Rogan to go to Malaysia

and do his act and see how that goes. Cancel culture here and back home is very different. It's very different. Do you look at the American comedians

talking about this shit and go, shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut the fuck up. At Madison Square Garden saying you can't say anything anymore. You can,

no one is literally stopping you. So, so tell me, but okay, so talk to me about you as a comedian. You love comedy. You love comedy.

You understand comedy. The fact that you're talking about this openly makes me go, what are your lines? How are you careful? You're on Netflix. What do you go? Well, I'm not going to say that on Netflix because then I can't. Of course, of course.

What's your rules? So this is all open knowledge. The woman who allegedly insulted Islam during a performance at the Crack House Comedy Club in Kuala Lumpur recently has been arrested. Police said they also obtained a three-day remand order. The woman will be held at the Brickfields Police Headquarters for investigation. A 54-second video, which went viral on social media, showed the woman introducing herself as a Muslim woman. She claimed to have memorized 15 chapters of the Quran.

She then proceeded to discard her tudung and baju kurung, revealing her skimpy clothes underneath. Following the incident, the club lodged a police report at the Tamantun Dr. Ismail police station against the woman, adding that she and her partner had been barred from the venue immediately after the performance. against the woman, adding that she and her partner had been barred from the venue immediately after the performance. Earlier today, Kuala Lumpur City Hall suspended the operations of the club, stating that the

government would not tolerate any activity deemed offensive to religion, race or the country's sovereignty. What exactly was... I don't want to speak for everyone but I think we all thought maybe the lingerie would happen. Where like the video is like eight minutes long I'm like no no no let's keep watching to the end

it's gone what was the what was the bit the joke what was the joke exactly though yeah so she is this was an open mic night so there was no joke

no it's not good she was there her whole bit was like a minute and 37 seconds long. I recommend you start with a name joke. Yeah. My name's Susan. That was weird growing up.

Like, let's start there. And then you build your way to fucking. Yeah. Take it off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, God, if I got arrested every time I got naked on stage, we'd be doing this from jail right now. Yeah.

So, yeah. So those, I I mean my lines okay so this is now it has now become a term an actual term in Malaysia called the three R's right so race

religion royalty yeah so as long as we don't touch any of those things I think race is the one that you know it's kind of okay because if you're Chinese

you talk about Chinese stuff it's okay but religion and royalty those are what race like you could make fun of white people yeah yeah yeah

can can yeah but it's like even if you can make fun of other races too but you know as long as no one gets offended

then it's okay I guess you know all it takes is just one guy who goes oh I'm offended and then launch a police report and then they have to act upon it so it's okay i guess you know it all it takes is just one guy who goes oh i'm offended and then launch a police report and then they have to act upon it so it's very yeah so you said uh you said royalty and religion royalty race royalty being uh like the kings and queens so in malaysia it's all like the english ones too or not just yours okay you can go Prince Andrew or King Charles whatever but our own

it's a no no it's a very very big red line so we try not we never touch those yeah and do you do you touch it

when you're not performing there or do you go like I am beholden to these rules because you're a popular figure you have an internet presence

yeah for example like it's as long as you see we also have kind of like you know I would say draconian laws like we have the sedition act yeah so like sure so in the sedition act basically says if you are if you are found to say anything which causes disruption to the public peace and harmony then you are liable to be in jail or whatever and then a subsection of that is uh the intent is irrelevant,

which is against the law. So for example, if I say something, you recorded it, you uploaded it, and it makes people upset. But during those times, I was not intending to make any offense. I'm just educating you. I'm still liable to be. I'm still deemed seditious. So, okay.

So obviously there was a time in America, like if we look back on Lenny Bruce, like there was clearly a time, even with George Carlin, where they were pushing the boundaries. I believe George Carlin's case went to the Supreme Court, if I'm correct. The seven words you can't say on TV. went to the Supreme Court, if I'm correct. The seven words you can't say on TV. So this Malaysia, as you said, not that old given when they were kind of given. So where do you see as a comedian? It would be really hard for me to get in legal trouble

in America as a comedian. That's so nice. I could only be, there's only so brave I could be. Yes. But like you, two Netflix you know? Yes, yes. But like you, two Netflix specials. Yes, yes. A comedian in Malaysia.

Do you have fantasies? Do you ever go, I'm going to start, I'm going to push this. I'm going to move this. Because you can imagine a world someday where eventually, you know, an open mic-er could wear a hijab, take it off, and everyone goes, that wasn't a good joke. It wasn't a good joke, but you're allowed to do it. Yeah.

Honestly, right now, I don't know. Because, like, most of us in the arts industry, we're kind of pessimistic about the freedom of speech that artists have in Malaysia right and the reason being because at least

personally for me we now have so our current prime minister was he actually went to jail for in the past

because his his enemies you know put him in jail let's put it that way and he's always campaigned upon yeah when I become prime minister there'll be freedom there'll be more freedom of speech you know, put him in jail. Let's try that. And he's always campaigned upon, yeah,

when I become prime minister, there'll be freedom, there'll be more freedom of speech. You know, he also has gone against the sedition act saying this is draconian, we should repeal it.

And he's one of the more reform-minded prime ministers we'll ever have. And, but now that he's in power, he has not, you know, he has not made it,

made it easier for artists. He's not made freedom of speech more available. So I'm kind of pessimistic because like if this is the most reform-minded guy that we have, the next guy will be less reform-minded and there'll be even smaller chances of us having more freedom to say whatever you want to say. So I'm quite pessimistic on that regard.

Would you ever go to jail for a joke? Get a fine for a joke? Is there a joke you've had that you were scared to tell? No, so far, things have been okay. So I've never gotten, thankfully I haven't gotten like

a police report or a knock on the door. But I don't think there's any, any joke of mine yet that will be that dangerous. Can I ask about, here's the thing, I'll never know, right? Can I ask about Jocelyn Chia?

Yeah, please go ahead. So Jocelyn Chia. Yeah. Have you ever met her? So we worked together a lot at the Comedy Cellar. Oh, you did? Oh, cool. Oh, yeah.

We've known each other since I started comedy. Yeah. She got in trouble for a joke that was posted at the Comedy Cellar. Do you remember the context of the joke? It was about the... The MH370. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

And it was... Was she comparing it to... Was she comparing it to Singapore? That's the best breakup revenge, man. Now Malaysia's trying to come around like, hey, Singapore, you're looking good, la. We're like, I know. But why haven't you visited me in 40 years

I tried but you know my airplanes cannot fly some jokes don't land I felt like she was just going like at least

I think there were one or two that joke landed on like that plane yeah yeah yeah something oh the Malaysia the plane yeah

so yeah she got into she's not from no she's from Singapore she's from Singapore so yeah and Singapore as you said was there's a rivalry

there's always a rivalry there's a rivalry so I believe her bit was just like like why Singapore is better than Malaysia I think so yes and so what happened was I think even Singapore So I believe her bit was just like, like why Singapore is better than Malaysia. I think so.

Yes. And so what happened was, I think even Singapore like denounced that joke. I mean, get this. So the government denounced her telling a joke at the comedy cellar 30 minutes away from here. Yeah. So there's both,

even the Malaysian government denounced her and the Singapore government denounced her. And there were a lot of police reports made against her. And of course the cyber bullying came after that. She were a lot of police reports made against her and of course the cyber bullying came after that that she had a lot of you know oh yeah yeah of course

as per usual for any comedian sure yeah so and then but I mean she is in America

she's an American so yes there are laws to protect her so I think she's she's okay I don't think she's in any trouble

yeah it was just it's just scary when the whole internet has decided there's a whole government there's a one week uproar like one or two weeks of non-stop she's trending on twitter for like a week two weeks yeah yeah but there is something so cool about not being able to ever go to a country because of a joke you told somewhere else yeah do you think she's on a list somewhere yeah I would

I would tell her don't yeah not to come to Malaysia or even Singapore for that matter I think yeah oh my god

really they hold on to that long no no no I don't know I don't know but I wouldn't if I were her I wouldn't come to Singapore

I mean I mean yeah at the very least I wouldn't fly Malaysian Airlines but that's a whole different story careful I'm sure I mean, at the very least, I wouldn't fly Malaysian Airlines, but that's a whole different story. Careful.

I'm sure it's – I mean, listen. Listen. We're with Boeing. It's not like we got better airplanes over here. The whole world is falling apart. No one's in any place to really be going, our country's got it better. It's all bad.

I have friends who are afraid of flying, right? And at that moment, it's fine. It's all bad. Yeah. I know I have friends who are afraid of flying, right? And at that moment, it's fine. It's fine. But I've, nowadays I'm getting myself in, like when I book a flight, I check on the,

what's the aircraft of the flight. I can't. You can't do that to yourself. Yeah. But if it's Boeing, I'll be like, you know,

I'll go with an Airbus. You know what I mean? Like, it's scary to go on a Boeing now. It's statistically dangerous, right? Yeah. I mean,

you fly a lot. We both fly a lot. I fly enough that I can't. I go, oh shit, it's the plane that crashed and it's a dollar cheaper. Yeah. But remember,

one of the flights, your fiance's seat wouldn't recline. Oh, my girlfriend, yes. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. Fiance. Fiance, right? I just got to make an edit. No, no, no. Yes, my girlfriend. No, it's fine. Oh, my girlfriend. Yes. I'm sorry. Fiance. Fiance. No, no, no. My girlfriend. No, it's fine.

No, no, no. Please. She'll be thrilled. Sorry. Yeah. It wouldn't recline. It wouldn't recline the first class seat. I'm sure it's a Boeing. I watched that whole documentary on that Malaysia thing and they didn't have answers in that documentary.

It's one of those where they just kind of pose different things. Wait, isn't that the one where they thought that it was a suicide? That's one of the theories. But another one of the theories, the most interesting one for me was that the US did it. That they blew it away

because they were smuggling someone on the thing was smuggling something from China, like a secret thing. That was one of the theories posed, is that it was maybe, we did it. Welcome to the Joe Rogan experience, everyone. I'm just telling you. America shot down the plane.

It was on Netflix. They threw out like seven or eight theories. That was one of them. That was the one that they were like, but then they were like, they threw it out and then they were like, but that didn't happen. But the way that they told it at first,

that was like- But then they looked at the camera like- Yeah. No, no. The way I saw it, the documentary was like, here's how we think it happened, right? And then it became so outlandish

that the guy who posited the theory was like, yeah, but it's a bit wild. I mean, come on, you're doubling back on your own shit, right? But it makes for good TV. It does make for good TV. It was the only one I remembered, really. Did you watch the one about the 737 MAX? No.

Oh, your intro. Which one was that? About the downfall, about the 737 MAX. Oh, the Boeing ones. Yes. Oh, the Boeing ones. The other Boeing ones. But that's the one where they said that the update did something where it just kept correcting ones. Yes. Oh, the Boeing ones. The other Boeing ones. But that's one where they said that the update did something

where it just kept correcting it. Yes, yes, yes. It went down. You should watch that. That's crazy. That's great. Worst audio I've ever heard in my life. I can't help it.

It just popped up on Twitter and I said, okay, my Twitter's awful. It was, there was a pilot in Germany. German plane. Yeah. And he flew it into the ocean and there is uh the black box

recording of uh of the passengers just banging on the cockpit door saying please please please wait he's doing what is he doing he's just taking it down he wanted to do he wanted to do it yeah yeah joe marco why are you sharing this stuff i just there's some there's some are you saying that it's gonna be on my twitter something, there's something, are you kidding me? Are you saying that now? It's going to be on my Twitter now. I'm suppressing it so much, but like, I'm like, for a moment, I was going to turn that into a knock-knock joke. And it's, it's.

What's the joke? Okay. Knock-knock. Who's there? The passenger of a plane. The passenger on the plane who? Please. Because I'm just.

Marco. You've bummed everyone out. You've bummed everyone out. What's the joke? The joke, I think it's just. What's the joke? That's the one. I think ultimately it's silence because it's.

Or lots of noise. The black boxes. Did you see the video? It was a plane in China, I believe. And they said that one was a suicide where the plane... There's a video where it's like going like in the middle of like streets. And there's this... You see a video of a plane just kind of going downwards in the middle of streets.

It looks surreal. Like a matrix. It doesn't make sense to see that here. And I saw that on the way to Vegas. When someone does that, when someone kills a lot of other people, are they labeled as like a, they should be like, are they labeled as like a serial killer?

They're usually labeled as dead. No, but do you know what I mean? Like that, there's like, it shouldn't just be like, oh, there is a suicide and they took everyone down. Like they're murderers. Do you know what I mean? Like they're like they've killed hundreds of people, you know, I don't know

where we need to put it down, but it needs to go somewhere that that they're, you know, that's definitely not like they're not making the Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's true. They're not making like a Captain Sully movie about them where Tom Hanks play. That would be the turn Tom Hanks played them that would be the turn

Tom Hanks he goes from pilot that is successful to EJ's place oh this is bleak this is very bleak are you normally more macabre

after like doing a bunch of shows and you're tired oh yeah right right right is that the high the crash from the high right

I well I love Anthony Cheselnik yes of course I do I do you know the only thing that I like didn't the thing that I never got, like he, talk about countries. I was thinking about him, like for a while he wouldn't go to New Zealand. Oh.

And so what he did, he did this thing. Do you know about this? No. Oh, I love this. So Jeselnik had a show called The Jeselnik Offensive. And he really enjoys, at least at that time especially, like would come up with the dark joke right away after sometimes tragedy, right in the moment. I like a little bit of distance.

Yes. He got in trouble on Twitter because there was, after the Boston Marathon bombing, the tweet was essentially, and I'm misquoting, people have asked me, am I going to make a joke about this? But there are some lines you shouldn't cross. Like the marathoners couldn't cross the line. Something.

Yes. And he had to make a whole special about having to delete it and all this stuff. But he did this thing on a show called Shark Party. And someone in, he loves sharks. And someone in New Zealand was eaten by a shark. And like very soon after on the Comedy Central show, he did a dance where he had everyone dressed as sharks. And he was like,

it's shark party. Every time someone gets eaten by a shark, we do a shark dance. And I think it ended with a picture of the guy on an easel. I'm pretty sure. Now you can find it online. I think at the time, this was before the internet quite had its hands on everything.

So like it was wiped away and he was, it went viral on the news and they ended up and i could get some of these facts wrong but they ended up having like the family on the news one of these things where the news like said hey we're gonna play for you the shark party from comedy central clip you never would have seen tell us your thoughts but i always thought like i still feel viscerally uh oh my god if i got eaten by a shark i have that anxiety if i'm like oh what does it feel like for your leg to be bitten off and so it's too it's too alive in my head to make the joke ah uh whereas like a plane thing it's far enough away it's a little bit surreal i fly

in a lot of planes i feel justified but i think that's the thing we're like if i make a if i if i ever make a pedophile joke around my dad, he'll be like, that's not funny. And I feel like it's for him. Yes. He just – he can – his imagination takes him to the fully realized dark picture before he can enjoy the comedy of it. I can see both ways. Just depending on my mood, I can be like, oh, I don't even – like doesn't really doesn't make me laugh. Certain things sometimes. But then another part of me is like people joking about it is at least a good thing rather than having to like think about that horrible story you just shared on your comedy podcast about passengers bang.

So rather than us just sitting there thinking of that horrible thing that no one should ever have to think or know or experience. Yeah. Making a joke about it is a better feeling ever have to think or know or experience. Yeah. Making a joke about it is a better feeling than having to, you know, think about that. And I kind of feel that if I do get eaten by a shark, it would be an honor if Anthony Jesonik does a dance. Sure. Yeah. That'd be great.

At least if I die, at least Jesonik gets a five minute bit and I'll be honored. I think about shark attacks all the time because that's too much thank you all the time that is too much

all the time you live in New York anytime by an ocean I go that's a lot I mean that was just when you really think about the ocean

if you like take that second you're like we should Tova goes why would you go in that it's crazy it's endless depths but it's not

like think about there's millions of people going in the ocean every day and it's not happening very often nothing happens we hear about every single

shark attack because it's rare if there's a shark attack happening in the world I'm gonna hear about it we're all gonna hear about it so like it's super rare

you know so you shouldn't be thinking about it all the time I shouldn't I shouldn't you shouldn't be thinking about it all the time I shouldn't I just think of specific stories all the time I think of that woman in Maine they didn't even have sharks there really

and now they do and she's swimming every day she lived in New York I think she retired or she was about to retire and she's swimming and her daughter boom the shark shot her? and she's swimming and people she's swimming with her daughter and boom. Boom.

The shark shot her? They never had a shark attack. You know, I think about it all the time. Now, because hundreds of years, they just never have shark attacks and then all of a sudden we get them now in Maine. You know, I'm not there. What do you do with the

shark? Because I think like you pee on it. No, sorry. But you, okay, you punch it. You gouge its eyes nose the snout whatever yeah you punch and gouge this is the stuff that i wouldn't be able to do that in real time though you know yeah yeah it's very optimistic you know yeah i remember like i always get confused with with black bear and brown bear one you're supposed to play dead and we're supposed to make yourself really big yeah i'm'm like, those are opposites. Brown, lay down. Brown, lay down.

Black. Attack. Is that it? Who said that? It must attack me. If it's brown, lay down. What do you think? If it's, you know, if it's either or,

black, lay down. Yeah, why don't you just yell at it and like get real big. Yeah. But you know, okay, so this happened recently in Malaysia and since we're on this

so you talk about how like you know you think about shark attacks but it'll never happen to you right so

recently in Malaysia something something happened which none of us here would have ever thought would happen to us but there was a

tourist from India and she's just walking in Kuala Lumpur, the city city right and then a sinkhole appears below her, I think about sinkholes all the time how do you get

through the day? there's a video of this so there's a sinkhole, she drops down and till today We can't find her body Yeah that's how bad The infrastructure is

So a sinkhole appeared You can see It's Oh my god I don't want to watch the sinkhole She She just She just

Yeah And we can't find the body Yeah Well And I'm sure she never thought Oh one day I'll You know that's how Yeah A sinkhole

yeah at least at least that if it ever happens you could be like i knew it i was right if it's a shark you'd be like i knew it if you fall in a sinkhole there's a shark at the bottom of that sinkhole you could be like god damn it sinkhole it would be embarrassing i'd be like oh of course the ground gave out below me you know know, of course I would be like, this universe being like, you're fat, you know, like,

I just want to be clear to the two Malaysian viewers who are watching this. I'm not laughing about it. Yes. The Americans are, I'm not. Oh, I'm laughing about me going into a single, not that poor woman.

Yeah, not that poor woman. No yeah not no that poor woman yeah no no no no no no that's yeah saying it's him no i'm saying me uh me if you fell i would go it would be like it would be like me but this is the problem with all this stuff is that like people get upset because they're sad about this they're sad yeah we feel we feel the thing that we all feel and it's it's. Why does the world have suffering? And in a way, it's like when people make a crude joke, like Russell did just now, that I don't approve of either. And thank you for pointing that out.

Shut up. It was about me. When people make those jokes, though, it's like suddenly someone gets to go, oh, I can alleviate my sadness by feeling mad at this person. And that's like, that's like all, that's all that, that, that kind of stuff is.

And it's so meaningless. And we all took a breath and like, and let it not encouraged it or just went, yeah, they said something I might not like, but the reason that they get so worked up is because it helps them feel better. It's so sad. It makes them feel distracted.

There's an inbuilt pent-up negative energy and he has to go somewhere. Yes. He has to go somewhere. And if you don't say that, whatever the stupid thing, then there's nothing, it boils up inside.

But when they have a target, and that's the problem with the internet, it's just like, that's how you can engage in the internet is you're outward. You have to like post your, fuck you. I hate you.

Cancel this guy. There's no place where you just, you just have to sit down and go, fuck, man. I could die at any moment. An air conditioner could fall on your head. That happens a lot in New York City. Are you serious? Only four people have died ever from an air conditioner.

Okay. But things fall from the sky. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, that's not like pieces of the building sometimes fall off. So is it common for the AC to fall off and kill someone now I'm thinking about it all the time

no it's not all the time all the time I'm walking around New York City all the time but I do think about things falling like pieces of the building sometimes fall

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You Americans call it interns. We call it housemanship. So, I was a house officer for two years and then I worked in the government clinic for, no, I worked in the ER for like a year

and then in the government clinic for another year. Yeah. When were you funny? Were you a funny kid? I think so. I mean, as a kid, I was the class clown. You know, I was just making jokes all the time.

And then I joined the debate team, public speaking team. I like to hear my own voice. Yeah. As we all do. And then I did my first comedy was at the age of 23, 24 no, sorry 26 and then

in Malaysia in Malaysia and what was the comedy scene like there? so it was very nascent it was very new we had one open mic show a month

wow was it and that was the one I was on was everyone at that show they knew comedy from America? and who who was popular? like That was the one I was on. Was everyone at that show, they knew comedy from America? Yes. And who was popular? Like, were they looking at Carlin and Pryor

or were they looking at Chappelle and Dane Cook? I think, well, I watched Josh Carlin before, but I mean, at the time he was Russell Peters. The number one name on every Malaysian who knew stand-up comedy at the time was Russell Peters. And he was early YouTube yes

he was like he was one of those like in the very beginning exploded he was a viral superstar actually the word viral wasn't even

known yet so every Asian who knows stand-up comedy has watched that clip and it suddenly exploded he started this Asian revolution of stand-up comedy

where Asians were like, hey, number one, we like this. Oh, we can laugh at jokes. And number two, like all the, oh, we can do this too.

We can do comedy too. Where was he? Where was he from originally, Russell Peters? He's from Canada. From Canada? Yes. And he just,

why did he explode so much around Asia? Was it just, he was talking about. He was talking about this race comedy bit, like how like, you know, you go to, you go to the market

and the Indians will always want a bargain, but the Chinese will always keep a bargain from you. So there's a power struggle there. Then, you know, like how like, oh, 30,

450, you know, like it's, it's so relatable to Asians because that's what we do at the markets. Yeah. And then the, the beating, you know, like somebody, you know, the father goes, somebody Asians because that's what we do at the markets. Yeah. And then the beating,

you know, like somebody, you know, the father goes, somebody's going to get a hurt real bad. It's every Asian parent's. What's one joke

you tell about Chinese people? You know, it's so, oh, just one. But you know, it's not too bad. But you know,

what's so interesting though is I think like, you know, there's certain things as we talked about that like you can't talk about maybe in malaysia but i i even got the sense of being in australia like when there's there's so many more asian people in australia than in america or or it's just like it's it's more we're in a way where the rules of america there's there's some very like

strict rules in america in terms of uh making jokes about uh uh asians or asia or a specific part and it's all and it's you know it's so informed by the history first of all so much of comedy used to just be uh one of one of the great comedians john panay do you know who he is yes and he was so funny i've talked about him before. But every single album of this genius ends with his famous bit of going to the Chinese buffet. And then it's 20 minutes. 20 minutes. And then it gets so stupid as like, you know what Chinese people's least favorite movie is? Free Willy.

And then he says that with the accent. And it's just like it's so much. And I think because of so much of that, there was a huge like no more just like it's so much and i think like because of so much of that there was a there's a huge like yeah no more yeah but it's so funny when you go some somewhere else in the world it's like oh that's an american viewing of it not to say that people just go whatever jokes there everyone has the rules but it's different yes yes you're very astute you're very right so among asians at least, for example, if I go on stage, right?

So in Malaysia, we have Malays who are Muslims. These are the majority races. Malays, Chinese, and Indians, right? Now, in comedy in Malaysia, if I go on stage, I'm Chinese. But if I go on stage and I do a Malay accent or if I do an Indian accent and if an Indian comic does a Chinese accent or a Malay accent or if a Malay comic accent and if an Indian comic does a Chinese accent or a Malay accent

or if a Malay comic does a Chinese accent, it's fine. Yeah. Because we all grew up together. It's fine. There's no, oh, you can't do this accent.

It's fine. And vice versa, like if we see a, let's say an American comic, a white guy comes on stage in Malaysia and if he does the Indian accent,

the Malay accent or the Chinese accent not only will we not get offended we'll be like he fucking nailed it that's amazing because he's like

in a way honoring our culture he took the time to know us what you said if a white guy if a white guy came to Malaysia

yes let's get book a one way flight a one way ticket not Boeing now immediately I got a new hour

a new hour I've been sitting on this one for a long time off accents wow brilliant but really because it's we don't have that we don't have that history and that's we don't have that we don't have that history and that baggage we don't have it

yeah so sometimes like for me even as a comic when I say for example if I watch even in Australia or America

a guy comes on and he tells a joke whatever and in my brain oh he's gonna do the accent which should be funny but then he doesn't do it and the cop out line is

well I'm not gonna do the accent and then that gets a laugh going to do the accent, which should be funny, but then he doesn't do it and the cop-out line is, well, I'm not going to do the accent. And then that gets a laugh like, no, do the accent. It's fine. I don't care. The cop-out line is always there. I'm not going to do the accent.

You do it yourself. Whatever. Whatever that is. I have a line. I'm proud of this line. It's some story where there's a woman and she's Haitian and we talk. I say, she says this. And obviously she has a she's Haitian and we talk I say she says

and obviously she has a very thick Haitian accent but I'm not going to do it because as a white guy it would be too funny and it's fun it's so

it's just fun to yeah that's wild to me and I'm sure let's say hypothetically if you were to do that bit

with the Haitian accent not a I'm just speaking from not a single actual haitian will be offended at you absolutely right absolutely but i i think you'll be americans it all it all i mean it depends where you i think what can be interesting about comedy is that comedy is not always just about like this is this is why a context and culture is so important of like part of comedy is just like what is the okay thing here what is not okay and playing with it wherever it is so if i if i were to be you know in in uh in malaysia my jokes they wouldn't i wouldn't necessarily even want to do

the accent thing because it would be more about how do i play with it in a different way yeah that would make someone go and it's like that's what comedy isn't just saying a naughty thing it's it's it's it's kind of walking the tightrope wherever you are yeah and yeah and i think coming back and i think that's where um the problem lies with jocelyn's uh set in a sense that that's probably the internet exactly exactly because like i'm sure her set for the seller audience was fine it was fine and even if there were malaysians there they are not malaysians who live in malaysia all the time they were there to watch a comedy show but the moment it gets on the internet the rules are different because the rules

are everywhere it's like when Americans if Americans would get offended like at this point everyone's telling 9-11 jokes but like if the week of 9-11 someone in a different country

made a joke about 9-11 I mean Americans would be like how the fuck could they ever and it's like guys are you kidding me America literally fucking bombed that place

the other week like shut like it's so yeah you have to your brain has to be so goddamn limited and in a and unable to conceive of the world outside of your home yeah yeah and that's the interesting thing about being a comedian now it's like we are bound by rules locally but if you want to become big internationally we're then bound by a whole different set of rules and different sets of different rules. And you can't navigate,

you can't please everyone and you can't make everyone be not offended. It's a whole different game now. Yeah. So, okay. So you were kind of funny growing up.

Kind of. And you listened to George Carlin. At what age are we talking? George Carlin was, I only, we talking? George Carlin was... The sad thing is I only found out about him after he passed. This is 2010, I think, 2028. And I watched all his clips.

I was fascinated. And then Ricky Gervais, Chris Rock, and Daryl O'Brien. These were my early influences. Who was that last one? Daryl O'Brien. He's a legend who was that last one daryl brie and he's a legend from uh ireland yeah i gotta i gotta learn more about i i don't know who that is but i gotta go to have you hosted any george carlin a little bit but like uh only like the bigger things that pop up in like when they're doing documentaries and stuff you know i've

watched everything of george carlin's favorite favorite ge George Carlin joke? The one where he goes, religion is bullshit. Sure. My favorite, I guess a comic, he opens a special and he goes, have you ever noticed all the women at anti-abortion rallies are always the kind of women you never would want to fuck in the first place? And it was like right out the gate. Right out the gate. Again, it was like at a time where he could have

maybe gotten in trouble for that and that's what made it exciting yes yes yes my favorite another bit my second favorite

is a bit where he is a very family friendly bit it's a bit about stuff yes you have stuff and other people have shit

oh yeah yeah one of his better wordplay jokes yeah you watch that documentary no actually what documentary there's a two part documentary on HBO about George Carlin it's good and I think Yeah. One of his better wordplay jokes. Yeah. You watch that documentary? No. What documentary?

There's a two-part documentary on HBO about George Carlin. It's good. And I think the fascinating part about it as like a working comedian is that the dip his career took. Where like he was, you know, the cool guy. And even after the Supreme Court, which inarguably the coolest thing a comedian could do go to the court to for freedom of speech and then his jokes got weird and at some point mad tv made fun of him in a way that like really bothered him because he was on stage and like i don't know if this mad tv or him and that's that's how low he was i can't tell just he was like peas that's a weird word. Ease.

I eat peas with a B. He just got lost in language. And then later in life, post 9-11 and whatnot, some of his stand-up was just like, don't you want to just kill everybody? Everyone should die. I can't wait for everyone

to die. Thank you very much. Why is everyone crying? It was brutal. He was mad. And I'm headed there. Yeah. Really? I'm headed there.

Oh, yeah. One of these days. You're just mad, no jokes? If I had one more show in Toronto, the last one would have been like... To the listeners of this podcast, Joe Marco is just like staring into distance now. It's very unsettling.

It's because I keep trying to think of a knock-knock joke I really want to end with a knock-knock joke that's like perfect and brilliant from that thing

it's hard to talk and do the same thing so then yeah so then I did my first set in 2010 and then it kind of because at the time were you a doctor

I was working as a doctor working as a doctor then and then I did a set and can I tell you something if I had a doctor dealing with something important and they said

they said hey can we start the surgery soon I got a spot tonight I'd say stop stop new doctor

that's why I never became a surgeon because yeah so like 2010 I did my first spot and then so at the time

Malaysia the stand-up comedy scene was about to explode. So it has grown exponentially. So I was lucky to start at the start. Was there one thing that made it kind of pop? So the clip Russell Peters made. Russell Peters made it and then just clubs started opening up.

Yeah, so like in 2010, it was just once a month. And then slowly, as the shows became popular, like other shows started popping up yeah so like in 2010 was just once a month and then slowly as the shows became popular like other shows started popping up and then

there's this thing where someone started this thing called the Comedy Club KL which where they flew in guys from America or Australia

or the UK so they'll do a circuit they'll come to Hong Kong Bangkok KL Singapore and then maybe Jakarta and then maybe Jakarta

and then they go back up so like it's part of a circuit so like they could make it work for a short period of time they could make it work and it was great

so we get like legends like Paul Ogata yeah Gina Yashere Tom Rhodes all came through all came through there

and then so and since then now we have like now we have like 20-30 shows a month. Sure. Pop-up shows.

And so I was lucky enough, like from 2010 to 2014, I was getting gigs regularly, touring. And then in 2014, I quit medicine to do... Was it hard to leave medicine at all? Did you love medicine in some capacity? I love studying medicine. But, you know, working as a doctor in Malaysia is very challenging because the bureaucracy is very high

a lot of red tape and there's no easy career progression there's a lot of bullying hours along everything hours along the wages are shit

and wages wages are bad? bad very bad for doctors? for public doctors in the public service and the wages

have not changed since I started so I started working in 20 I started working in 29 2011

no 2009 I started working you know wages are bad when your doctors are leaving medicine for stand up comedy yeah

yeah but in Malaysia Malaysia is a different market so I got by doing corporate gigs and also my own shows so it's a different market so I got by doing corporate gigs and also my own

shows so it's been okay so I quit medicine in 2014 and then 2015 I did the Melbourne Comedy Festival

and then I also won a competition in 2013 and in 2014 I did sports in New York and in LA

yeah one last question about being a doctor. When you were... I didn't know we had decided on the last one for it, but I guess so. I'm throwing it out there. How did you deal with like...

I feel that people are coming in. I actually don't know. You mentioned you were in the ER. Yeah, but I was only in the green zone where like coughs and colds but go on oh okay okay

I was gonna say I just working in the ER feels like it would haunt me it's stress yes it's stressful like thinking of all the

horrible things you see day in and day out oh yeah of course every day but if you're mainly dealing with the coughs then I guess that's no no but

but we still see you know the broken bones and everything yeah everything happens in the ER in one day. So there's a death in the ER, there's a heart attack. Did that wear on you at all?

Not really. It wasn't the workload that was wearing me down. It's just the bureaucracy and all the bullying and all the stuff that doesn't make you happy to go to work. It's not the work. It's the people you have that doesn't make you happy to go to work it's not the work you know it's the people you have to deal with

was there anything you got from it where you said wow I'm doing good in the world and I understand comedy will make everyone laugh but was there any

that's why you do it right hey that's why I do it hey laughter is the best medicine it's like it's the feeling I get sometimes and I don't mean this cruelly That's why you do it, right? Hey, that's why I do it. Hey, laughter is the best medicine. It's like, it's the feeling I get sometimes. And I don't mean this cruelly.

Someone will say, after a show, they say, hey, I just want you to know I got diagnosed with cancer. And watching your comedy really helped me get through the chemotherapy. And I'm like, that's sweet. But I know I can't. It's not like I can really take it in. Because the truth is that if you told me my comedy is what caused the cancer in the first place yeah i'd still do it yeah and so i can't you can't i can't you're not saving anyone yeah i'm glad it's a nice thing but i but i did the comedy because i love doing the comedy like was there any part of you that that got a purpose out of it that you go I just

I do get mad because some performers act like they're doing it for the people and I go like I know if they didn't find me they would have found Jeff but just as fine you're not a comic right I am but I'm not a stand up comic

wow all these years you haven't come up with a good way to say what, but I'm not a stand-up comic. Wow, all these years you haven't come up with a good way to say what you are. I'm in comedy. Jesus Christ. I'm in the comedy world. I'm in the comedy scene. Let me do it. Jesus Christ. I'm a theatrical comedian.

Russell is a phenomenal comedian. Yes. He has a long acting background, can do Shakespeare, but also one of the most brilliant sketch comedians and an incredible writer and was recently understudied in Josh Gad on Broadway. Wow. Okay.

He should be your agent. Yeah. Well, his girlfriend's my manager. So there you go. No, what I meant was like the subtext of him, you know, like, you know, if my comedy caused the cancer, I would still do it.

So the subtext is he thinks that my comedy caused the cancer, I would still do it. So the subtext is, he thinks that my comedy is so powerful. It can cause a chronic, debilitating, incurable disease. That's how powerful my comedy is. The doctor comes in and says, have you been watching? See? What kind of cancer would your comedy cost?

Oh my God. I feel like testicular. Oh my God. Something that creates for impotence. Oh my God. Do you ever look back on your old life and go, wow, that was... Is it fair to say doctors are heroes? Well, yeah, especially...

I talked about this in my special where... So during the pandemic, right? Comedians had no work. Yeah. So I'm at home. I'm not doing jack shit. I'm playing video games now my wife is a doctor

I met her in medical school oh right so she is everyday going out to the front lines and she's an she's an anesthetist

so you know any COVID patients who are ventilated on the ventilator that's anesthetists they are the ones taking care of the

sickest COVID patients and she's literally on the front lines saving people every day. And I'm there. Laughter's the best medicine, whatever bullshit.

I'm playing video games. So like, yeah, they are heroes. They are really heroes. But at no point during the pandemic did I go... Did you volunteer?

Did I go, I'm going back on the front line. No, no, no. Darling, you go? I'm going back on the front line. No, no, no. Darling, you go. I'm going to stay and make content. Wow. Well, someone's got to.

Let's go on to our next segment. Who's going to do it? This has got to stop. This has got to stop. Yeah. Anything you got to stop? Yeah, I have a quick one. Okay, so when sometimes celebrities share something on Instagram and and they they they they share it and it could be it could be a video about why we need to make sure we keep killing palestinian children

and why it's all defensible um anything but they share it and they'll be like i thought this was interesting not fully owning what they are sharing but totally endorsing something fucking psychotic okay so i hate this shit yes i prefer if you're fully you own it that you're a lunatic and that you're genocidal or whatever it is own it please own it then i know you know it's all but i hate when people are dancing around it because they know that they shouldn't really be doing it and it's controversial so they won't fully own it but they'll share it and they'll be like i thought this is interesting or worth a look or shut the fuck up pink okay we know what you're endorsing and it's annoying to me because it's like it's just one of those things where there's so many celebrities like that and i'm like either go and do it and say it or or don't because it's clear where you stand. And, and it's so annoying to me.

It's so annoying that just thought this might be, Oh, Oh, I'm just posing. And if you go, you go, Hey, you know,

that was actually really shitty. Oh yeah. No, I wasn't saying, no, I wasn't. I just thought you should watch the whole 15 minute video. Yeah.

Having a cake at 82, right? Yes. What do you think of this? What do you think of this? Oh, and it's an 8 minute video yeah

oh you want to watch 8 minutes no yeah anyways I'm fully on board that's nice yeah my this has got to stop

as people really only know this if you like are a performer is that like for example I'll do workout classes sometimes wherever I'm traveling and you know at some point from New York what are you doing here I do a comedy show is that, for example, I'll do workout classes sometimes wherever I'm traveling.

And at some point, you're from New York, what are you doing here? I do a comedy show. And then they go, oh my God, where? And I'm like, I know from experience. They've never heard of the club. I know from experience, they're not coming to the show.

But. You have to give them all the details. I have to give them all the details and, and they go, when is it again? Okay. So what are the two times? And in my head I go, please,

please just don't, we don't need to do this. Just stop this. There's no way you're coming. There's no way tonight in four hours, you're coming from here. You're changing your whole plans. And all I'm going to say,

I'll say, write me. I'll give you, now that I know that's fake, I'm like, right. I'll give you a cop. I'll suck your dick in the back. And cause know none of it's gonna happen i know none of

it's gonna happen well not if you've trapped in the blowjob yeah but there's something there's something that that like people feel this need to go oh oh i'm i'm gonna go check it out can you tell me and i and it's just like just don't just find the strength of yourself i'm not asking for it yes i didn't say hey you should come to this show. But it's something that everywhere you go, everyone does. And maybe once in 10,000 have they come and I go, oh, you came. Can I add on to this? Please.

So I once did a gig in Brisbane. And everyone knows I go there once a year I go there once a year and after the gig I had an extra few days so my friend takes me out to lunch and she invites her friends and she tells me all these friends are your big fans

so they come so big fan so these guys all came for the show but this guy he goes I'm So big fan. And then, so these guys all came for the show. Okay. But this guy, he goes, I'm a big fan. He goes, so, oh, were you at the show yesterday? Oh no, I couldn't come because I had plans. I had dinner plans. Like, wow. You, you, you, you, you're my biggest fan, but you can't cancel plans with your friends who live here while I come once a year.

Yeah. Yeah. And this happens, like you said, it happens in every, every state, every town. I'm your big fan. Oh, you're sure? I got, I got bridge or whatever. I got, it's always, yeah. Cause it's a weird way where it's like, especially with that where it's like, then you have to

be like, Hey, thank you. Oh, that's very nice. And so it's like, it's like we, you don't get those points and I'm not mad at you but we're starting at neutral don't try to don't try to start do you have this kind of stuff I love your one by the way thank you

so mine is comedy related right it's a pet peeve of mine see my friends make fun of me because they say oh Jason you

you hate crowd work because you can't do crowd work and I agree I'm bad at crowd work. So I'm known as a guy who hates crowd work. But what I really hate, and this has got to stop, is very abusive crowd work. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

For example, like I've seen so many times where they go like, and it's always a guy. He goes, hey, what's up, bro? Are you together? And it's a guy and a girl. And they go, no. Oh, no, bro. Then this bitch is leeching off you. What's up, bro? Are you together? And it's a guy and a girl. And they go, no. Oh, no, bro. Then this bitch is leeching off you.

He's not. She'll never suck your dick, bro. What are you doing? Bro, what the fuck are you doing? You're traumatizing this lovely man and woman. Yeah. Who could be platonic friends. Yeah.

That's you. No, that's not you. No, I get what you mean. Yeah. No, I know sometimes it is like, they're very like... I've watched all your clips. Quick to go to a really like antagonistic thing to maybe hopefully get more content. You know what I mean? It feels like that's someone, that's a crutch for some people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think. When I started at LOL Comedy Club, I mean, it was low hanging fruit crowd work for sure. And like the one that always happens is two guys staying next together. It's like you two fucking? Oh, yeah.

You two gay? Yeah. I remember like talk about places where people were doing Indian accents still for sure. Or if there was anyone who was brown, it'd be like, what's in that backpack? I'm in there. And you'd be like, people were doing indian accents still for sure yeah or if there was if there was anyone uh who was brown it'd be like it'd be like what's in that backpack bomb in there and you'd be like jesus christ what did i enter a time portal before i came to this show and i think i think once i just remember once it was like a group of guys and i said oh it's like a boy band if they're all gay

it was so bad it was just like early comedy and like you're freaking out on stage you need a laugh you're like and you're gay you're gay but even then

it's not like I get traumatized when like you know it's that kind of crowd work where they make the woman feel yeah

weird for not being his girlfriend like what's can't two friends just go for a comedy show? I don't know. I don't know why anyone sits in those front two rows. My Toronto show, they paid extra for the front row.

I would not be, back of the house in darkness is where I want to be watching comedy. Yeah. During my shows, if there's a group of four guys, I could make a joke and just be like, what, you four straight? And they'd be like, what, you four straight?

And they'd be like, ah! No, you know we're not, Jamar. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Let's go to our final segment. You better count your blessing. Wow. You better count your blessing. Russell, do you have a blessing?

Yeah. So I do this thing where um probably like once a month i'll discover a band or a singer that's been around for so long and is huge and but i just have never listened to them and um i've been really into the beastie boys in the last week damn that is a that is wild you know, it's one of those things, like, you know, like, the big hits, right? We know that. Like, everyone knows the big ones. Girls! Yeah, yeah, yeah. All I really want is girls.

You know, all the big ones. But I was listening to Paul's Boutique, that album, and it's just one of those, and you feel so dumb that you're like, wow, the Beastie Boys are really good. You know what I mean? But you're just, oh, I've never really good you know i mean like but you're just oh i've never really listened to them like full albums and um and uh they're great so downside

listeners beastie boys 1989's paul boutique it's a great album it really is good i'll come back it's very good yeah it's very there's like you know lots of different things happening in it and uh and and the way that, there's three of them. They're going back and forth every other word sometimes. And it's very impressive to me, you know? You sound like a 60-year-old white mom discovering rap for the first time. Sometimes they go back and forth and they finish each other's sentences. Anyways.

Well, then. I like that. Beastie Boys. I'll check it out My blessing I sometimes don't know Sometimes as comedians they have their accomplishments And I get annoyed when they I don't know how to talk about it sometimes

Because I just think it becomes obnoxious Sometimes when people are winning every award Let's say they have some HBO specials Winning all awards okay at a certain point it's like yeah and you want another award yeah you win all the awards okay but like i thought it was really it was very cool going to toronto um and i knew i knew we were going to probably be adding shows nice but we ended up uh we ended up doing 11 shows that's a lot man it was 11 shows 11 congrats and again like I don't I don't I think posting about numbers

is lame but it was at the end of the day it was 1650 people wow across all the shows and then they told me

they said it was a record it was the record for most sold out shows congrats at this venue and it was like it just

it I don't like I don't want to be if I I ever sell out the Beacon to just be like, I sold out the Beacon. It was this many seats. But there was something about this week where it's like a smaller club. I worked, I worked a lot of hours. I put in the work to make that third show happen. And they, it just felt like, oh, cool. And it just felt like, oh, cool. It just still felt like a connection to the work and being paid for the labor in a way that wasn't absurd. So it was fun. So I thank you to the Comedy Bar and to Toronto. I've never, I told you this, I've never in my whole life, I normally, I've tried to remember now to bring up the podcast at the end.

Because so many people don't know about the podcast. And I've gotten a lot better at the end of every show mentioning it. And this time, every time I said The Downside, it was like a large chunk of people love The Downside. And we're working on. Working on. We're working on. It's not set or anything, but we're looking at maybe January and hopefully soon to join Downside. And by the way, patreon.com slash Downside. Join it.

Nice. What's your blessing? Okay, before I go, before I do that, I just want to share. I don't know if you know this, but so I got an email telling me that I should prepare something for the blessing, right? And your producer, Paige, who is lovely.

Now, I've never met Paige in my life. So our interactions have always been business-like and email. your producer, Paige. Yes. Who is lovely. Now, I've never met Paige in my life. Sure. So our interactions have always been business-like and email. This is the greatest email I've gotten from a producer. The podcast ends

with our palate cleanser Count Your Blessings where everyone shares about some Pacific thing, blah, blah, blah. And not generic shit with no details like my health or family.

And I replied, Paige that is the greatest briefing email I've ever gotten for a podcast, bro we have never met and please share something and not generic shit, there's no asterisk, it's just S-H-I-T

that is the, and that's when I was so excited for this podcast that's the standard that's the level, Paige will love that I love you that's when I was so excited for this podcast that's the standard that's the level Paige will love that I love you Paige and I know I know exactly

what episode that instruction started with I won't say the guest but his blessing was music right right that was mine today

did not go but more right right Paige and Beastie Boys and rap groups from the 80s that everyone already knows space right right Paige as Beastie Boys and rap groups from the 80s

that everyone already knows about right right mine I have two very quickly the first one and they're linked

the first one is I think I'm very grateful for that nowadays especially among men mental health is no longer a taboo subject

right so you can easily go like I'm feeling down or depressed and your friends your even your male friends will like check in on you and see if you're okay and i'm very grateful for that because uh this year has been tough because i i lost a friend uh and he he passed he's my age

and ever since then like people know i was going through a bad patch and friends from everywhere like check it hey you okay uh you okay how's how are you feeling and and even now to to be able to tell my wife that i'm feeling a bit depressed it's like a huge uh blessing and so different from just a generation ago yeah like our our dads didn't have this luxury of hey i'm feeling a bit down because they'd be like hey just man just man up, just man up bro, just man up and get it over with. So I'm so grateful. That is and just it just happened yesterday. Another friend, but luckily not as close, passed away. So I'm grateful that we have this support system where we can talk about it. For a second I thought it was your second blessing. No, no, that's not. Yeah. And the second one is similar to yours

I think music because big fan of Linkin Park oh yeah massive massive fan they came to Malaysia to perform many years ago

and I watched at that concert it was amazing I'll never forget the concert and then and now they're coming back with a new lead singer

yeah Emily Armstrong what do you think of her? I love it she's a different a bit different style, different sound, but it's very refreshing, you know,

and it's clear she loves the music. And a lot of people, the people who hate on her, they get the idea wrong. Like she's not there to replace Chester. No one can replace Chester. But it's just a way of paying homage and continuing the legacy

and a lot of fans including myself are loving it because we get to hear Linkin Park again yeah so those are my blessings that's a beautiful blessing

I will say one thing people are mad about at her about Scientology Scientology oh really yes

and also guess who guess who's hearing she went to in support. Oh no. Scientology. Can you guess? What's the one low level actor

that has fucked up on so many careers? Danny Masterson. He really got people to turn out for him. Must be a good friend. That's the sense I had been thought of. I was like, god damn, a lot of people

Sounds like a nightmare person, but he had a lot of people show up for him. Oof. How about she? That's the death. Sorry.

I think recently she came out with a statement saying that she acknowledges that she shouldn't have done it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a different

time in her life. It's a very PR statement, but yeah. There's a statement out there time in her life it's a very pr statement but yeah yeah yeah uh look if if if that's all she did there's singers who've done a lot worse in this world totally if listen if we're as terms of singer she's a scientology i'll take that over what pink did um uh that's so funny um yeah so this is coming out October 1st anything that you want to plug I don't think so

well I'm doing shows in Malaysia so to all my American fans tell your friends in Malaysia that I'm doing shows and you can find me at

at DR Jason Leong on Instagram Facebook and Twitter or my YouTube channel Jason Leong thank Instagram Facebook and Twitter or my YouTube channel Jason Leong thank you very much can I perform there? please

it would okay I'll produce a show and I'll produce your show and you hey yeah hey

I'll do it I'll market it he does accents all your accents and he's Jew but we won't tell you he's Jew oh that's so funny oh my god

we have to sign a waiver that you won't sue me if you get in trouble I don't think I have anything to promote October 1st follow me on Instagram more announcements soon. There's that optimism.

See me headline Cleveland, Ohio. I'll be back at Hilarity's Comedy Club Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Weekend after that, Atlanta, Georgia is going to be great. Oh, and Huntsville right before Atlanta. So October 9th, Huntsville, Alabama. I went to a strip club there once in Huntsville, Alabama. We'll talk about it later. We'll talk about it later.

And then October 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th, Atlanta. Please show up. That's a lot of shows. Too many shows. That's shocking. What does Atlanta think it is? Toronto? Because it's not based on the last time I was there, sales-wise.

And do me a favor, guys. Join the Patreon. I know Russell was out for two episodes, but he's here for a bunch more. And I know that we're fucking recording this September 9th. You join the Patreon. That's the closer that we can get to start recording

these and releasing these even sooner, back to back. So Patreon.com slash Downside. Be on the lookout for tour dates coming up. We got two bonus Patreon episodes every month now. It's a really exciting time to get there. They'll just be us. Just us. I haven't thought.

Knock, knock. Who's there? The passengers on your airplane. The passengers on your airplane. The passengers on your airplane who? I can't think of one. Marco. Wait, I want to think of one. Why did you start talking?

You sold out Toronto? This is the downside. One, two, three. This is The Downside. One, two, three. Downside. You're listening to The Downside. The Downside.

With Gianmarco Ceresi.