The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi - #75 The Sub That Got Away with Lane Kwederis

Episode Date: March 15, 2022

Lane Kwederis shares how she went from waiting tables to foot fetish parties, meeting men at ATM’s in stilettos and a Burberry trench, running your own business in the sex work industry, the ethics of findom (financial domination), and what it’s like when guys she’s dating find out she does improv comedy. Gianmarco also shares his brief findom career and the sub that got away. You can watch full video of this episode HERE! Follow LANE KWEDERIS on instagram and twitter Catch LANE KWEDERIS' improv group, Nightshade, at The Magnet Theater Follow GIANMARCO SORESI on twitter, instagram, tiktok, & youtube Check out GIANMARCO SORESI's special 'Shelf Life' on amazon & on spotify Subscribe to GIANMARCO SORESI's mailchimp Follow RUSSELL DANIELS on twitter & instagram E-mail the show at [e-mail] Produced by Fawn Sullivan, Paige Asachika, & Gianmarco Soresi Video edited by Spencer Sileo Special Thanks Tovah Silbermann Part of the Authentic Podcast Network Original music by Douglas Goodhart Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Okay. Oh my God. Welcome to the downside with Jamarcus Serrazi. People, they must, they hear this podcast like there's something bad happened before they started recording. Jamarcus coming in hot. And we had, I got a new box and it wasn't working. It was working now. It is. It's working now. now right i think i did the thing i think you fixed it i can't tell because i could tell you part of you was like we need to just settle him down some part of me was just like oh yeah no it sounds great now let's just let's just record no it does sound it sounds much better um and um yeah uh you got we have now we have stands we have stands microphones guys watch the video of the podcast

because things are getting better. This all credit goes to Tova. What were you saying? And I was going to also say, how nice of you, you know, so we have, we have two out of the three chairs,

not the right colors yet, but. Thank you for pointing this out. Very nice of you to give me and our guest Lane, the good chairs while you sit on that old wooden chair. That my mom got me.

Garbage chair. You're Russell Daniels. And we're joined. This is a very special episode. Spontaneous. Yes, spontaneous. As you know, if you listen to this podcast, we're figuring it all out.

And sometimes we just have a guest and we just talk about their life. And it can be tough because sometimes you're like, who gives a fuck? Oh, you grew up. I was about to say a specific guest. Like just throw a guest under the bus big time. But who gives a fuck? And sometimes they're family. There's nothing to talk about.

But this one, we had an idea. So I'm very excited to welcome. She just was a guest uncle for our sketch team, Uncle Function. Yes. Please welcome Lane. Say her last name for us, Russell. Quateris. Quateris.

Yes. I know. You know what? Just remember the female body part. That's what I was going to ask. Oh, okay. But said like a toddler. Wait.

Like female body part. Quateris. And then like a toddler wait like female body part and then you brought up toddler and i was like let's separate these two things no like said like a toddler like a toddler like if a toddler was saying i like that a lot thanks quite us yeah oh yeah yeah that's uh well i think that plays directly into one of our topics for today, which is about sexual kinks. Russell, he felt like you were doing a Jeff Goldblum impression. I do.

I do. Now, Russell, what would you say your kinks are? We're going to just focus on you so so the way this episode came about uh uh well someone dropped yes number one we would have had you anyway but someone did drop yes and we were in rehearsal and uh show went great you did a fantastic job by the way you stepped in there you you i mean it's last minute two days two in there. I mean, it's tough. Last minute, two days before she stepped in.

I forgot. It's two days before because we had someone and they booked something and scared about COVID. We're all figuring it out. Believe me, if I booked anything, I'd be out of there. I'm begging. I'm saying, can I please headline anywhere? Bumfuck, nowhere,

PA, get me out of this. And you stepped in. Was it two days notice? Three days. I think you found I'm saying, can I please headline anywhere? Bumfuck nowhere. PA, get me out of this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And you stepped in. What's it? Two days notice? Three days.

I think you found out three days, but we, you came, your first rehearsal was Wednesday, right? Yeah. For Friday. Yeah. So it was a, it was a quick, quick turnaround. You killed it. Uh, very exciting.

Um, but yeah, when rehearsal and what reminds me, I don't know if you remember, uh, uh, I don't know if you were, are you, were you if you're are you were you started as a theater were you a theater person yeah do you remember speed the plow jeremy piven who's now a stand-up comedian because that's a good sign he dropped out of that play last minute he said he had mercury poisoning which looking back you're like this is bullshit the order you get you're like oh yeah that was clearly a lie and uh normally a butt stepped in uh with three days notice they just needed a star and i remember he said he said yes to the gig and then he threw up immediately because he was he's in the whole play it's he's the whole play and i think i saw the night that he did it all without calling

line because when he finished like he exploded he celebrated so hard. And Russell, I mean, Paul, what's his name? What's the famous name? Paul Esparza. Raul Esparza. Raul Esparza. I came out and gave him a big hug. We really chastised you for that one. Raul Esparza.

Law and orders, Raul Esparza. So did you throw up? No. No, I just finished getting my eyebrows threaded is what i did i think you should love this one eyebrow threaded you're like i have to go there's sketches to learn comedy show to do but i hope you had fun it can be challenging because we're we're a long time friends and sometimes sometimes when you join a group of friends practicing it, you have to kind of make yourself at home.

It can be tough. Yeah, but it's a pretty homey group. Yeah, I felt like it was a good, both of our guests, I felt like were like, very like, there was not like, I feel like all the recent guests that we've had, I've been pretty good about jumping right in and, and,

and you know, sure. I just think we're better now at knowing who, who we are and what, how we do things. Cause sometimes it takes a while to figure out that. And I felt like we're, was I too cold?

I can be a little cold. I can be a little like kind of, I feel like I can be cold to new people. You? Yeah. Not like me. See, she's a really. Not cold, but like.

I didn't say it. We have it on record. I'm more shy. I hope. I'm more shy, I feel like. And sometimes it maybe comes off as like indifferent or. I think I'm so punchy with you guys that it could be perceived as. I did a joke because we had what two shows

canceled now because of covid yeah last minute covid so right before the last rehearsal i texted everyone a picture of a positive test and i said i'm so sorry you guys by the way when you texted that i was about to go in for my callback i didn't get to see that it was a joke for me there was some no way that was like is this real and i was like waiting i was like in oh i had to rent a room at ripley greer to do a callback a zoom callback because then we had to go to rehearsal nightmare so i'm waiting there on camera just waiting to for it to come on i get your text and then i like immediately get see your thing and then there the screen pops out the green light comes on and so i'm like wait does he really have COVID? Like for, um, for, you know, for the five to seven minutes I was in the thing.

And then I got out and I saw the things, but like I should have known, but like I was also, my head wasn't there. So I wasn't even thinking that you could be joking about that. Yeah. It was, it was too close to like, yeah, clearly I wouldn't have waited right before rehearsal. That's true. Um, but yeah, it's just a funny thing to do. It's just like a gotcha.

Yeah. Gotcha. It shows the answer again. You know what? The, the, the pranked are never the fans of the prank. And that's just,

that's just the nature of being a prankster. Right. Um, but you, you said something to me about, uh, uh, Fyndom.

Yes. Which, which I've talked briefly about in this podcast, but I've always wanted to go further into. about, uh, uh, Fyndham, which, which I've talked briefly about in this podcast, but I've always wanted to go further into. And, uh, I think I was shocked because you talked about it so openly and it's, it's one of those things where I, and I might have a misconception where I'm like, I would never know, or no one would ever bring it up. But, uh, uh, but, but, but you did. And I was like, like oh fuck we have to talk about this because i'm so fascinated by it um we should also probably clarify not everyone knows what

fin dom is it's financial all our listeners know what we define it at the end our little piggies so i'll describe it how how i found how i found I found out about it originally. Cause I'm not a, I'm a pretty, I wouldn't say kinky. Uh, I don't know what that means, but I'm not like, what does it mean to be normal or kinky? Really? You know, I think there's something to be abnormal. You think nothing's abnormal? I just think, I don't know. I think, I think there's, I mean, we can get into this more, but I think there's so much of like us just being like, no, I'm, I'm normal at sex. Like everything sucks me normal. And like, we try so hard to be like, to like fit an ideal.

And it's like, who's to say what's weird a little bit, but then there are, there is some stuff that you're like, well, that's really, well, that's, that's the line. That's where the conservatives go like, oh, that's normal. So now this is normal too, huh? You're going to marry your dog. Yeah. Yeah. I was having a conversation on a different podcast about, do you, all right, real quick. If someone has a baby, they just had a baby.

It's a couple. And they're sharing the bed and the baby's there because the baby's crying. So the baby's in the bed and the baby's breastfeeding. Do you think it's abnormal or do you think it's no, no, no. That if you were making love as the newborn is, uh,

being a breastfed, what? That's a little, well, cause it's one. Okay. I mean, newborn,

you just created life. You've had sex while it was in, in your body. Right. The penis was even closer in that case totally i mean i've definitely like fucked in front of my cats like yeah and the cats just look at me like almost exclusively i i had i had sex with someone where the dog was on the bed yeah yeah they'll sit yeah i didn't i didn't like the dog being on the bed for the sex i really did not like it i don't like the dog in on the bed for the sex. I really did not like it. I don't like the dog in the room, but you know. We were having sex and she was like, oh, I hear the dog

outside the door. And I was like, that's fine. And she's like, no, let's let him in. And then the dog came in and we just took turns. I do feel like a dog and a baby are different. You breastfeed a dog? That'd be okay. Here's the thing.

It's very hard to imagine because i don't have kids so um it's like it's two steps because you're saying it's not only is the that that baby which for all like that baby's like just laying there like a thing like but like that baby's on the bed but then the you're saying that the baby's actually breast actively breastfeeding. I just imagine like when you just have a scenario, you're making this up. No, no, no. I just imagine it happens because I just imagine you're you're a married couple. You're in bed.

The baby are just tired. When do you have sex anymore? The baby's just there. She wants to have sex and breastfeed. She's got like she's got what if you're what if you have's got like What if you're having sex The baby falls asleep You start having sex And then all of a sudden the baby wakes up and starts crying

You're so close It's not like in between you I just Listen and again I want to be clear I don't have a baby I just would wager Gun to people's head That at least a third This is my guess A third of people I've never done any of this. I don't know. I just, I just would wager. I don't want gun to people's head that,

that at least a third, this is my guess. A third of people who recently had babies, there was something where they were holding the baby or there, there was something weird going on weird by traditional standards. But to your point, you said things aren't weird. And I brought up something that isn't that crazy.

Yeah. It's not that crazy compared to all the crazy things said things aren't weird. And I brought up something that isn't that crazy. Yeah. It's not that crazy compared to all the crazy things in the world. Yeah. And immediately you said, I don't know. Yeah. Well, I'm judging. I'm judging. You're judging.

Well, it's yeah. I think, well, cause you're, you're purposefully throwing some like, you know, curve balls at us. Yeah. It's not something parents are always talking about like well clear you know why because clearly people judge them for it yes it's so subjective right it's so subjective so fin dom the way i've learned about this thing called fin dom mature for financial domination i had a an older gentleman who would come to a lot of my shows. And I even, I even joked about

he, I, I recorded a comedy special that I never released early on. And I joked about this guy. I don't know if you remember, he came to a show once at the pit loft and he told me right before he said, Oh, you know, my best friend killed himself the other day and I wasn't going to come to the show. But then I looked at myself in the mirror and I said, no, you know, my best friend killed himself the other day and I wasn't gonna come to the show. But then I looked at myself in the mirror and I said, no, you know what? You gotta go see this comedian, John Marco. And I was like, which was like a lot of pressure to put onto a six months in standup comedian.

And then like the joke that I said in the special was like, and I had a suicide joke and I was like, do I tell it? He just told me, but I did it and it killed him. And that was the, that was the, that was early writing early, uh, twists punchline.

And so he just came to shows and he would, and this is back, this all the way back to 2014. He came to my fringe play and he would sit in the front row and he would fall asleep without fail. He would fall asleep every time, but he'd keep coming to these shows. Yeah.

And then one day, and he'd write me messages, I just thought he was like an older man that was like supporting me. I assumed he was gay. I don't know if he said as much, but it was just like, it was that kind of like, oh, you handsome, young, tall man. And he said that he ran a modeling agency and he would be like you

know if there's ever work i'll let you know it was called something to do with like modeling in asia sketchy just to the fact that it's like when your jobs are on a different continent exclusively yeah um and then one thing that i know is all his messages he'd refer to me as sir all caps hello sir all caps all caps not even just the first letter no all caps and i just thought it was like this is a quirky older man. And I would guess 65. And then one day he takes me out to, he's like, can I take you out to lunch or whatever? And I didn't have,

this was money was tight. So it's just like, sure, whatever. I was also like, this will be interesting. This guy's weird. And we went to lunch.

And so we, we met at Aroma, which no longer exists on 72nd street, Aroma cafe. Great chocolate croissants. Very good. Yeah. And we went there Aroma, which no longer exists on 72nd street, Aroma cafe. Great chocolate croissants. Very good. And, uh, we went there and he, he like, he seems so nervous and he was like, oh, I can't believe I'm meeting the great John Marco, which I was going by at the time. And he said, he said to me, I, before this, I was in what's the, what's the barbecue place.'s super junky like in times square barbecue dallas

barbecue yeah he was like i was so anxious i i was at dallas barbecue that's kind of where my office is during the day which meant he went to dallas barbecue and like did work from there like that was his starbucks the place where they serve giant dallas barbecue is kind of his office that's how he put it dallas barbecue for those who who don't know, it's like amazing. It's like a really, it's a fun garbage meal, but it's like you get margaritas in like huge glasses where they give you like a test tube with like an extra tequila

shot. You go there to get fucked up and ripped off. And he said, I was so nervous to meet the great Joe Marco. I had to have a margarita before I came. And this is 1230. And so uh, so I'm like, okay. And he starts showing me in his phone, like his, uh, favorite pictures from my Instagram, like that he had saved, like into his photos, like screenshots. And some of these are way back.

I mean, there was a picture of, uh, there's a picture of my mom breastfeeding me while my dad fucked her. Like this was way back. And, um, and then he, he slides over an envelope and it says hashtag fin dom on it. And he says, you should write out a hashtag. You should look into this. Uh, cause it's something I like to do. And I have no idea. I really don't, I don't know what was happening. And I have no idea. I really don't. I don't know what was happening. And it was 200 bucks in like an envelope from like a bank. And I looked up Fyndom and the videos I saw mainly were like mostly women, like, you know, real gussied up, super expensive nails, like some of them in front of an ATM being like, hey, you dumb piggy boy, you want you want you're going're going to give me some money? Or does your wife have your little dick under her thumb, you fucking blah, blah, blah. So I look, I'm like, he's like, I want you to do that. You should look into that as a job. And that's not my, I think I'm a little bit prudish. And I'm also not like, I, that's not, I've always looked at anything. If you want to put this in the BDSM category or anything like that that's just not my jam I'm not like master I that doesn't appeal to me right doesn't appeal to me but you don't like money well sure that's why I do it of course of course

so he starts writing me and he's like I want want to give you a monthly tribute. And I'm like, okay. And he's like, well, tell me that I have to give it to you. And I was like, and I keep going like, well, you don't have to, if money's tight for you, I don't want you to feel, I felt stressed. I felt like, am I, am I using, am I using this person? And here's where I like cut out. So he moved to Florida and he could be dead for all I know. The Twitter's gone. And he moved to Florida and all of a sudden he said, sir, I have to stop my tributes. I'm applying for a new home and I'm worried they're going to see the payments I've made to you and consider me not of sound mind or being elder. He used the term elder abuse. And I went,

I'm out. I don't know what the fuck is going on. I looked at all my messages and like, I never, until he said, ask for the monthly tribute again, like that creeped me the fuck out. Yeah.

So it stopped for a while. And then one year he came back and he said like, I'm in the money again, baby, I want to give you payments. And I was like, okay. And he said, no, I need need you to demand it so i sent like maybe one or two i was like you don't make the demands here you little scum give me my really bad really this is all this is all typing out and i'm pretty sure i had like a friend like help i i it it's weird for me

i'd struggle with it i struggle with it i wish i could have helped you and yeah this is where tova starts entering the picture and like tova was like fine like it was kind of funny but then i do think like then he asked he said i want you to buy a tape measure and send me your measurements and not like shoulder waist like my penis yeah and for some reason my head this is why i don't think I'd be good at this. I didn't feel like I could lie. And I was so scared. I was going to send him my real penis measurements and he'd be like, the sir would disappear.

Your monthly tribute just goes down. Of course. It goes down like a hundred. Or he'd be like, now you owe me a tribute. Actually, yeah. And like looking back, I i'm like i could have just lied yeah like i do you should have all the time yeah but instead for i think for i think the combination of the elder abuse thing like being like mentioned at all i think it's good that you

got out even if he was like you know not that old and old. And it just, there's a, it's a, there's a weird component to like, he was also like, he was having to coach you so much that it just wasn't a natural fit for you. And he kept wanting me to call him. Like he sent me like memes of what Fendom is and he wanted me to call him the F word really bad. Yeah. And I said, you got the wrong host of the downside. You need my buddy, Russell Daniels.

And I said, you got the wrong host of the downside. You need my buddy, Russell Daniels. So, so like that was, that was the end of it. I probably, I bet if I looked at it, uh, maybe $2,000 over the course of this relationship, but it was always weird. And like what I found weird, I, especially when like he said that thing about the elder abuse where I was like, it's one of these things where part of it is like you're supposed to be like cruel and mean. But then when that's said, and the only other thing I'll mention is that one birthday, I had a birthday come up and he was like, do you want tickets to see Chappelle? And this was before Chappelle was transphobic.

This was when it was cool to like Chappelle. And I was like, yeah. And he said, oh, I can't afford it. What? Yeah. Maybe she said, she said well you better go work harder so instead he said would you like any scents that's what he called cologne scents and he came to an uncle function show i mean it's probably the most people ever brought to an uncle function yeah and he came to the bar and he's i didn't get back about the sense i was like fuck this yeah and he brought a bag filled with 20 cologne samplers. Oh my God. And you know, and I'm in front of my boys. Yeah. And like I remember him coming one or two times. Yeah. He sat in the front row and he slept. He slept.

Yeah. And so that was my, that's, that was my, uh, so now tell us, tell us how did you get into this? Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Um, yeah, let's see. Okay. us how did you get into this? Oh, okay. Yeah. Um, yeah, let's see. Okay. Well, first of all, I also want to just like come in. Like there are a lot of people that are into Fandom that are cheap and like, like those last behaviors was like, you're being cheap. Um, so funny.

I just find that really amusing and we can get into that more, but, um, okay. So I had a friend who had done these foot parties and it's like where you go and you have like just a bunch of guys pay you to like massage, kiss, lick your feet. And I was like, well, it you're just like feet that's far away from my brain was that your first yeah it was more like this is far away from like the parts i wouldn't feel comfortable with guys being around and um i think i also figured they would like do more massaging and like sometimes they do um but you can also get like just like knuckle deep in their mouth. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, so you go,

but yeah, what did they tell you up front? Like they, they are, they're allowed to put their mouth. Did they tell you that? Yeah. Yeah.

I knew that. I think they told me that this was quite a long time ago too. I've been doing this for like over 15 years. Oh my God. A really long time. And I used to not be as open about it. Like, or at first maybe I was telling people and then there was like a lot of like people

I would date would be like, you shouldn't tell me. I mean, I imagine 2006 you're saying or 2007 that the way the world views sex work has changed a lot considerably. So I imagine at that time it was like shocking to some people, you know, like, yeah, totally. Yeah. So it was like a combination of like, you know, like, yeah, totally. Yeah. So it was like a combination of like the world changing as well as me growing up. Like I became more and more comfortable and open with it. So who asked you, is this a woman, a coworker?

No one asked me just, I had this friend who went and she made like a lot of money. And I was like, what are we talking about here? Um, like, well, I can tell you the first night that I went, I went to go bartend and I actually didn't make it on time to bartend. And I was like, fuck it. I'll do sessions. I was the most like clothed woman there. I had like a turtleneck and like a cute skirt and heels. And I walked out of there with like over 600 bucks back then too, which is a lot of money in one before biden fucked up this whole country's economy yeah this is like pre-obama yeah like this is a while ago um and and so so you got to the party what what what kind of guys are we talking what's that yeah oh the venue was like this like

honestly honestly kind of like it was just like a dark space like like all everything was painted black it was very bare bones there were maybe even like some like curtain type things but what's pretty weird is everything's kind of out in the open um and you have to pay extra to do like a private session so essentially like you just there's just like a guy like on the floor like licking some girl's feet over here. And then there's like someone who's like tickling her feet over here, like totally in front of everyone. Um, and most of the clients didn't necessarily feel comfortable with that. Um, but you had to pay extra and you had to get extra time. Thank you for, um, for going to the private little, like, I mean, they

truly just like set up like little little structures to to be able to kind of have just this little kind of private almost closety thing that you could be in there was a seat is someone running is there a stage manager for this there's a stage manager uh always make sure to call places very on top of places uh no there was a person that ran these um um, I think maybe still runs them, uh, was kind of disorganized, um, as you could imagine one might be. Um, but essentially I can tell you also like the first man that walked in was like, um, kind of like looked like a librarian, like a, just like a sweet sort of older man. I feel like he had

a cardigan on or something. And I was like, Oh, he looks nice. And he came up to me first. Like I was the first person that was approached and he was like, I'd like to do a private session with you. So like my first experience was like, all right, let's go. And so I went in to this private little like closety thing. And he just is like going to town on my feet, just like loving them more, more. Actually, I would say going to town is like more like receiving my feet, like, like just like overwhelmed by my feet. And I'm just like, wow, I can't believe these have this power over him.

Like, are you like yeah well sorry do you 1 000 questions yeah yeah we're just on the first experience i have so many questions the one that comes to my mind now you you as you look back at that first night do you feel like your performance like what you did then because you're like this is you've not been trained you've not like had any experiences doing it, cause you were like, this is, you've not been trained. You've not like had any experiences doing it. So do you feel like over the years, like, it's just an interesting thing. Like, do you feel like you were just like, here's my feet? Like, or were you like, were you like, were you a character? Have you developed like a more of a

thing? Yeah, totally. It does. I think there was a little bit of like, put on like, hello. Like, I think I, I already do kind of like put that on when it's like, be sexy. I'm like, yes, here I am. I'm sexy. Um, so I think there was a little bit of that, but there, I think, so there's also a lot of people who have foot fetishes that don't necessarily want you to be dominant with them. And so I think like a lot of these people are maybe in that kind of in-between category. And so I don't know, I don't are maybe in that kind of in-between category. And so I don't know, I don't think he was like dying for me to be dominant with him, but who knows, but he kept extending. He extended three more times or wait once, twice.

So yeah, I was in there for an hour and a half, um, an hour and a half because each time was 30 minutes. And he's like, does he say like, I want 30 more? Here's cash. Uh, I think he just said it and then he gave the cash at the end, but he had the cash. So you're just sitting there for an hour and a half alone in like a dark space with this man, just like my feet, just like on his face, just like loving life, like loving life. The most I've ever seen a man.

Is he smiling? Is he talking? Is he just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like a, it seems like a little happy pet being like caressed by a hand, but a foot. 90 minutes is such a long amount of time. Does it feel like he's like, is, is he just like saved? Does he, would he, if he had his druthers to be graphic,

take out his, his druthers to be graphic, take out his, his druthers, his, his desires. You have to hear the phrase. I don't know. Like his druthers, his like,

if he had it his way, if he had a magic wand, would he be to be blunt, taking out his dick and, and using your feet to finish himself? Or is it like a different kind of sexual, like that's what the 90 minutes thing it's like it's like right are you kind of like humping the ground or is the feet on the face just enough

for some people it is there's definitely people that want to do that like um in general like my biggest rule is like they're allowed to touch themselves uh as long as they do it like over here and then when you say that does that that include, they're allowed to finish? They are allowed to finish. As long as it's over there. As long as it's over there. It's not getting, there's no like waterworks cleanup on me. Even that night, you were already at that point?

No, I wasn't. And, but the thing I was going to also add is there's still, even when I maybe let them know, like sometimes I'll let them know like, Hey, these are the rules. Sometimes it's not even necessary to talk about depends on the person and the situation. Um, he like a lot of them will still like not want to, because maybe for instance, if it is like, they're worshiping me, like, cause there is an element of like worship. And I think in this, in this case there maybe was like, there was kind of like, yeah, it's like, they want that to maintain. There's people that like to be locked up in chastity. Like there's actually like a maintained sexual pleasure for some people by not finishing, um, by not even maybe touching themselves. Um,

you know, and then there's also like edging obviously, which we know of like, and that's its own thing too. But yeah. So, so you, how long was this party? If you did 90 minutes with this, this, this party went, I probably left there at like two in the morning. And I, I think I got there at like 7. Okay. So yeah, you had that initial experience that night and you got made good money, good money. And you, so then what was the, so he wanted to extend more. And I was like, I want to see the party. Like I was like, I want to see what this world is like. This is great that I'm crushing it money-wise, but like, I want to go crush more money and like, see what this has to offer. And by the time I went out

there, it was like in full swing. Like there were tons of people and music was like blasting. There was like kind of like a cheesy open bar that was like, you know, they had sodas and, and yeah. And some people are just out in the open, just sitting in a chair. And I guess that's cheaper. Yes. Well, yeah, it was, it was the same price per minute for us there, but you could do like as little as 10 minutes. So if you're like testing out the merchandise, it was, it was not expensive. How many women or how many people are doing are, are like the, I think they're probably about, Oh God, this is so long ago, but I will, I would guess like 30 to 30 to maybe 40 women. That, that seems high though. Yeah. Probably more like 30 women. And then there were, there were probably less men than women

usually. Um, but they're hopefully at least doing other sessions, but some of the men also just would show up and want to talk to people and like, would not want to do sessions, which was the worst. It was so funny about this. You could compare this to other interviews where people talk about their family and we're like, all right, moving on from the family. And we're like, I want to know every square inch about this one foot party. We have so much more to cover. Yeah, we should get off the foot party.

No, no, no, no. No, well, it's her entry into the world. No, I'm fascinated. I'm just talking about our behavior as men. I think there's just like, I want to know everything about this foot party. Yeah, I think there's just like, I want to know everything about this. Yeah. I think it's human.

I don't know how to put this bluntly. Uh, no, I know how to, I don't know how to put this bluntly. You're, you're attractive. Are all the people at these foot is everyone who,

who is showing off their feet, uh, uh, like a good looking person. Or there's some like people that traditionally are not attractive, but have stunning feet like is, or does it feel like being, being everything else being, uh, uh, uh, uh, regular societal standards attractive in America? Yeah.

I would say more kind of like in the middle of having kind of like a little bit of everything. Um, yeah. Less like just the feet. Do you have good feet? I do. I have fantastic feet. You do? I have, I mean, I have, yes, I've, I have some of the best feet. Oh, wow. I mean, that's why I was so successful at it. Well, that, and we've talked, we were talking about this before, but it's, I'm an improviser and I know how to like do improv with them, which is essentially what you're doing. You're just doing improv with horny men, which is just what improv is.

No, I know. I would let someone foot fetish me for, just for the experience. Would you do it for any amount of money? Like you, would you let someone foot fetish me for just for the experience would you do it for any amount of money like you would you let someone worship your feet yeah i would totally be curious i don't know if i i don't know i i feel like i think i think i would get um i do i'm very ticklish on my feet so that would be my my concern with it but yeah i'm that's what we should have there was that great documentary about the tickle the tickle person we had a friend who got caught up in that yeah i had i had someone who was very into tickling and he would draw on my feet and like and for like certain holidays he would like draw like a valentine's day scene and like and i actually wasn't that ticklish but i would just

pretend to be i would be like oh my god oh So you, you do this night and it's like this incredible money. Was your world, was your mind blown after that? Were you like, Oh my God, I think I'll never wait tables again. I was, yeah, I was feeling that way. Yeah. And I still did a little bit of the job, but I was like, fuck it. Like I was kind of like already over it. I was working at blue water grill, which is like, and, and I, before that I was at like cute little wine bars and I was like, Oh, this is like not my vibe. It's like so corporate. And I like was, there's like a staircase.

And at one point I like dropped, I couldn't carry things very well. Um, and at blue water grill, you really had to do that. And I like dropped like, just like a glass that went and shattered down the stairs and the whole restaurant just like looked up at me. And then like I stood there and then like the bottle of water fell over and just soaked me as I'm just like standing there still. Um, yeah, I didn't do well, um, in that situation. So I was like, I want out. Yeah. And so in a city like New York, is there like a foot party every night? Like, like what's the, it was once a week, I think back then. Is this, is the foot party, is this technically legal?

I mean, technically, as long as we're not touching each other in any sexual areas, it's legal. That's what the definition of sex, like legally. I remember being a kid. Yeah, I think porn is different than like sex worker, but yeah, I think technically, as long as you're not performing a, like, like you're touching each other and yeah, like genitals, then I think, I think it's technically legal. But again, everything's so gray. As a kid, I would get, you know, whatever free newspapers on the street. And in the back, there'd be, you know, sex workers, pages and pages and pages of, you know, call this for a good time, call this. And I remember my dad kind of explaining to me that that's how I met your mother.

No, that of just like what it was. And it was just, it was one of those, one of those moments where early on you're like, wait, it's illegal, but it's advertised, but it's, everyone knows it was just one of those moments where you realize kind of the hypocrisy of the world and the strangeness of like, this is advertised, but it's not really legal, but they just lie. But we all know what's going on here. Yeah. So, Oh, another thing that like makes it legal is that you call, like, you don't call it payment. It's a tribute. Um, so like they are giving you tribute. So it's, you're not like I'm being paid for my services. It's truly, even though, you know, that is also kind of, that is what's happening, but there's also like an, an element sometimes of like gifting, you know? So it's, it's again, very, very gray,

murky, murky area. So, so you start doing these weekly foot parties, they're called foot parties. Yeah. Yeah. And then eventually I like did sessions. They had like a place that you actually could do private sessions at in addition to the foot parties. And so I was there for a little bit and then I left, um, and I built up quite a client base. Um, but me and you're getting their email after these things, sometimes email or phone number or something. Yeah. Um, and this, one of the women was fired for no good reason. She was amazing. She had like a master's in violin and was just like, so on top of it. Whereas like the person who is running this, um, sometimes would forget to pay the cell phone bill and we were the ones

booking the appointments. So we'd be like, we can't book appointments. Like I, I showed up to work and I like, can't work. Cause you didn't pay the like $30 bill for this burner phone. Um, so we were like, okay, let's bounce from this place. Um, cause we had enough of a client base. I also advertised on back page at the time, which was a thing, which does not exist now. Now back page, this was, why was it made illegal? Because they said that. Cause sex workers would do things on it or did they also make it i thought it was because of sex trafficking sex trafficking but that's that's they'll use sex trafficking to undermine sex workers sure or there might be some sex trafficking they're stopping but ultimately there's sex trafficking without this page existing and it

just makes sex work more dangerous exactly yeah because Yeah. Because now the sex workers, like they can't, um, you know, do any checking on these people. It's like, they have to just like go in blind to situations. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, yeah, but so I was very grateful for a back page. And so we like the three of us, the others, um, I think was like becoming a lawyer. Um, she was like taking the bar and we, we got, we subletted an apartment and used Google calendar and we just use this apartment for doing sessions. Wow. Did you have a name of the company? No, it was just like three, three ladies in a sublet. There it is. So, okay. So you're working with them.

You incorporate this shit or is it just, you're just doing session by session? Session by session. And the more I kept meeting people, the more people would maybe want me to be more dominant or I would like, you know, meet people with different other kinks. Like it started with just purely foot worship, but more and more I was kind of discovering different things. Did you ever need secure? Like, did you ever feel like we need security here? Did you ever feel scared?

Like it's, it seems tough. A little bit, a little bit when I was there, but when I was doing it on my own, I did not. Because also when I did it on my own, I would meet them outside in public and we would go inside for the session. So like, I really was able to set up my own rules much more when I did it on my own, I would meet them outside in public and we would go inside for the session. So like I really was able to set up my own rules much more when I did it on my own. But they're like it was just like some person that called the burner phone that would show up. drunken man showed up that was actually not like stumbled upon the place. He literally had a wine, like a glass wine glass in his hand for, this was while I was at the, this was while I was at the place, not doing stuff on my own. And I thought he was my client. Like he showed up and he buzzed

and I was like, Oh, hi, come on in. And I'm like talking to him. He's just a random, like old drunk guy. And I'm like, okay, well, like okay well so um I can't I can't even remember everything I said but he was like oh like this is what's going on and I was like oh no no this is not what's going on like to him again it was like he thought like oh this is like full service like sex stuff and I was like no it's like a very specific niche thing you need to leave and I had to just like get him out there. And then he like kept coming back and buzzing. And I was like,

Oh God, I was like so scared. He was going to just like show up. Um, yeah, but yeah, that, that,

that passed. Yeah. So weirdly, like anyone, most of my clients are like very sweet or at least the ones that are obnoxious. I can like filter out. Um, and yeah. Any patterns emerge at least the ones that are obnoxious, I can like filter out. Um, and yeah. Any patterns emerge of like the, the, is it every sort of man you could imagine?

Yes, absolutely. Like everyone thinks everyone who's into Fyndham is like super rich and that is not the case. Like I have had all ages, all backgrounds, like all, all types. Yeah. What was the transition? So you said the foot led to just some other things, but where, where, where did, how did you land on Fyndom? Yes. So I had a client who loved to talk a lot and would talk all over the place about everything. And then one day he actually talked about something I was interested in, which was, which was, he was like, how about after this session? And he was always looking for ways to like change it up. Um, he was like, how about after this session, we, I pay you for the session. And then we go to the ATM

down the street and you put in a number. I'll put it here. Let me walk us through slowly. I'll put in my debit card and enter in my pin then i'll step to the side and you take over and he was like and you can pick whatever number you want but he was like if the number's too high and it doesn't dispense like then you don't get anything but if it's you know low enough that it's in there it's like a it's like a i've squid games is just what comes to mind but it like a, it's like a, I, I squid games is just what comes to mind, but it's just like, it's like a game of like, Oh, it's like, we'll see. It's like deal or no deal. But the banker is just like a guy whose foot was, my foot was in his mouth. What

did you put in? Um, okay. So I was like racing around in my thoughts. Cause I was like, I had never taken out before you say, okay, what was he wearing? Uh, he was well-dressed, well-dressed money. I have another thing though. Isn't there some banks have specific limits, even if it doesn't match your thing. Specific daily limits. So you're like, sometimes it doesn't matter. So what are you going to put?

I'm only thinking of this because one time I had to do it for a sublet, like, or like a down payment. And I think I couldn't do over like. You could just say you did it for a Fend like or like a down payment and i think i couldn't do over like you could just say you did it for a fend on person where no no no i'm just trying to i i feel like it was like something lower than i thought it would be like i thought it was like 1500 or 2000 or something but you've got to be able to pull out more than that i don't know i would say 1500 see i when you brought that up i remember once or i would do 500 maybe i couldn't pull out 3 000 and that's why but it was something like that so i would be nervous maybe i would just do a thousand knowing you could

definitely pull a thousand out i would put in 500 knowing that she's like i'd feel good what'd you what'd you put okay and keep in mind this is like you know 14 years ago something like that so it's not even now um so i was like i i'd never taken out more than even now. Um, so I was like, I, I never taken out more than like $200 at the ATM. So I was like, okay, it's either between like 300 and 500. And so I'm like, okay, do I like, do I go low and be safe and like, make sure I like, you know, get something or do I go a little higher and take a little bit of a risk, but maybe it's a bigger risk. I don't know. a little higher and take a little bit of a risk, but maybe it's a bigger risk. I don't know. So I put in $480 and it came out. Uh, and since then we graduated to, if it doesn't come out,

we just try it again or like go to another ATM or yeah. And so now my minimum generally, at least with him and anytime I do have him, I do still have him. Wow. Okay. Okay. So that is 14. That's like, these are just, just, it's just so I have a lot who've been good on you. I mean, that's like to keep them.

So at this point for the foot for that day, what did you get for the foot session? It was like for the session itself, I probably made like 150, $200. Okay. Not much. Had you heard of Fendom or was this like, so you go there and I didn't even know what this was. I didn't know there was a name to it, but then slowly I think he told me more about it. And then I started telling my clients about it and they

started getting interested. And someone eventually told me about Twitter as well. And I discovered it on Twitter. So, so what is a session like with him look like now you meet up and just go to the ATM? Yes. Yes. Well, okay. So with him, we've also cultivated, he cultivated a whole look that is like my calling card at the ATM, which is, um, I wear lingerie underneath a Burberry trench with like stilettos. And so I show up at the ATM with him and usually we'll meet late at night with him. Late at night. Yeah.

Normally I don't meet anyone after 10 PM, but this guy, 15 years. Yeah. I know I'm making 1K. Same ATM? Because some of these ATMs become, I mean, to be, to become homeless shelters at night. A lot of these, these banks really do become like places for homeless people to sleep. Yeah. I mean, he usually gets there before me and can like kind of scope it out.

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meet him at the ATM. He's shaking. He's excited. He's like trembling. Like, he's excited, but it's also like this deep need in him for me to take from him. Like it's about, it is about a power exchange. Like in BDSM, like it's all about a power exchange. Like with Fyndham power is money, which is, you know, our society. So I, so I meet him, I show up, I'm wearing my trench. He opens the door, barely speaking, just like can barely even speak. Um, and then he goes up to the ATM and enters in his pin. As he does that, I unbutton my trench and he, once he steps to the side and his bank account is open to me, I open up the trench so he can see the lingerie I wore. Is the camera, the ATM camera seeing all this too?

I mean, yeah. I know that camera's there because when the ATM doesn't work, I go to the camera, I go, fuck you. And the guy's like, yeah, fuck me. But guess what I get to see later for free. So yeah. Wow. So I reveal this lingerie, enter in the number,

which is usually now just 1K. How long is it? Or is it a? It's a slow, well, an unbutton and then a, like a slow reveal. Uh-huh. And is he going like, is he making a noise? Yeah, he's mostly like, oh God.

is he making a noise he's mostly like oh just like his eyes are doing that like thing and so then it's a thousand dollars you put it thousand dollars i put it in you know sometimes it might not work and we'll have to i'll either do a lower number and we'll go to another so if it doesn't work what do you what do you say do you say what the fuck yeah do you yeah are you is it any of that with this guy like do you there's not so much i mean there is an l my dominance with him and again this is like where the improv like comes in really handy is i can read the energy he's craving and sometimes they might flat out say it like what the this one guy was saying to you like i want you to do this like sometimes they'll say it directly or they'll be like, I don't want you to do this in this way that you're like, that's absolutely what you want. Um, he likes having just like a normal conversation with me. So like,

we have like a very like, like chill vibe, but then when the power's turned on, it's, it's there and it's, and it's quiet. It's like a quiet power rather than like, and that's also, I would say even my specialty that I do, it's like less like yelling at people and more like, I know I deserve this money and I'm going to get it from you. Like, I know my power and that it's acting. Um, cause I'm like, I don't know if this is going to work, but I'm like, I absolutely do. Just total acting. What is it? In your mind? Yeah. Is this guy fine financially? Do you ever give it any thought? I do because there are, there are some like, like what he was mentioning, there are some that like part of it is that they're suffering or part of the fetish is going into debt.

And I never really know like what their finances are. Like I can, I can get an idea of like, you know, the, the car they have or the, the clothes they're wearing or whatever else, you know, whatever other indicators are. Um, but you never really know. And I used to, you know, feel really responsible for them. And more and more I've like learned to be like, you know what, this is like not mine to hold. And like, it's hard, but I have to try to like, let it go of it because some of them also, I even had a therapist say this, that like when, when like a pubescent, like before like a man's sexuality has like really developed, he oscillates between with the way he sees a woman. Sorry, this is a very binary example, but you know, and there's so much more in between, but, um, in this like cis like situation,

they will oscillate between the woman being a God or a demon. And so I get either of those. And sometimes it's from the same people. Like I will be treated as like goddess, like truly we use the word goddess a lot. Or daddy. Sometimes I'm called daddy. Yeah. That's fun.

All kinds of things. And princess, they love like bratty spoiled girl, like all of this kind of stuff. But then, so there's that. And then there's like, you're ruining my life. And some of that is the turn on for them. Or some of that is like them flipping it. Some of it is they want to, they have a self-destructive, um, impulse and they want me to hold that for them. They can just put it all in me and not have any blame on themselves. I can just kind of be the scapegoat. A lot of them have homewrecker fantasies, which is like, they have issues with their wife. And so they're like, Oh, you're trying

to like ruin my marriage. And it's like, no, you want me to ruin your marriage. Like that's all. Or it's like, do you ever worry some woman's going to come and, and I have, but I would also like, I would speak like pretty frankly with her and be like, look, you're a demon and I never have with, with a woman. I mean, I mean that cause I'm really an outside source and like, I have pretty clear boundaries too. I'm not getting super wrapped up in these, like these clients of mine's lives so you've never had like a you've never had a situation with a client where you're like you can't come back anymore because of yeah i have oh you have but but not because of finance like like like um have you ever had like where you're like you could tell this person like either like after the atm they

lie down on the floor and they go oh Oh no, this is where I stay now. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah. I mean, they'll straight up be like, Oh my God, I miss you. I want, can I like have a session, but I don't have any money. And I'm like, no, like even like you're like that guy going to you being like, Hey, do you want these tickets to Dave Chappelle? Oh, sorry. I can't afford them.

Like, that's like the shit that I'm like, get out of here. Like you initiated all of this. Um, and that's, that's very frustrating to me. And I get that all the time. Bono Fendom work look like, yeah. What, like, what would you be doing? Monopoly money. Yeah. So, okay. So how mean do you, how you, you talk about improv and you talk about how it plays in that. How mean do people ask for, how mean are you willing to get? What, what do you say? Are you, are you, are you dropping the word? The F word that I have had people ask for it in the past. And I used to use in the past. I generally don't use it anymore. Sure. There used to be a lot of like, Hey, whatever. A lot of piggy, a lot of piggy loser. Loser's a big one. I used to have a lot of people and I dabbled in it. And then I was like, no, no, no, no. Um, racial humiliation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And again, this was like was like you know like keep in mind like this is also like the way

they deal with their own trauma so like yeah it is again very murky waters very great i think it is there's a lot of like yeah i i feel like i heard a lot of like uh it feels like at least twitter sometimes i'm like that's this moral universe that really is the liberal mindset. And there's like, don't kink shame. Right. But then there's also like other things that were like, that would not be cool. I think in many spheres. Yeah. But then like, you know, that is a way for that, like people to work through trauma. So it's like, you know, at first I was like, well, I'm doing it in like a supportive environment. And like, they even want to be like, you really believe this. Right. And I'll be like, no, like, and they'll was like, well, I'm doing it in like a supportive environment. And like, they even want to be like, you really believe this. Right.

And I'll be like, no, like, and they'll actually like, they'll actually not want to do a session with me. Like they'll actually be like upset that I, that I'm like, no, I don't believe in this. I don't believe. Wow. You really, that's really, that sounds like, like a sting operation. Yeah. You're like, this feels like an undercover.

You really believe in this? Like outside of the game genuinely being like i really want someone that believes in this which is oh yeah so there's just so much like shame and stuff like in term yeah of course yeah wow and when you're when you're doing all this are they are, are they aroused? Are they, do they ever like come in their pants? I mean, are they? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of them are at work.

What are you saying? A lot of them are at work. A lot of them are like, either like, um, I'm in, I'm in the middle of a meeting. God has got us.

Please, please. Can you just send me a picture? I can't, I can't see videos because it might play out loud. Like, and then they'll be like i just came in my pants goddess like you know so i mean the first thought i'm like

when i'm on the phone with my dad and he's like distracted where i'm like i bet that's it yeah yeah maybe absolutely could be not outside the realm of possibility yeah uh this is all wild this uh so what is what are the ethics i feel like you have to create your own ethical code because this is like a whole world that exists outside of what society even talks about openly yeah but i feel like i remember uh this is more with sex work and i am curious kind of how your intersection and what you've do you view as what you do sex work? I do. Yeah. Like, I feel like there was a thing for a while. There was like, Lindsey Graham, uh, is fucking a lot of men and they're all about to like figure out how to out Lindsey Graham where there's like, sometimes people participate in sex work while actively participating in sectors of society that

repress sex work, particularly politics. And there's always something like whenever there's a political, uh, event, all the sex workers get a lot of work that week. Like, like there's just, there's just all this stuff. And so, but it also seems like you don't very often hear about sex workers outing their clients or going like, yeah, I filmed. It's a big no, no, but like who, where is the central hub of the sex worker community?

Is it Twitter? I think it is. Uh, well, again, Twitter is a bad place. Yeah. I mean, I think there's different places, but, um, and again, also, this is like a very niche part of sex work that I'm involved with. Um, but there, I, we do have like more like escorts and stuff that like will kind of interact with us. Like it's actually a really positive, like generally like the other

women that I interact with, um, are like super supportive and like really fun. Um, and we kind of are all on the same page. Um, we share a lot of the same clients. Like a lot of these clients are little sluts that like want, they'll even like, Oh, this is a thing with like fin dom or being a dom in general, like just fem dom, um, is like a lot of our, a lot of our clients will be like, I just, I own, I want to be owned and I want to only be owned by you and like be, you know, sort of like a monogamous sub and, and they will just always cheat. Like they will always go to numerous doms. And I will be like, look, we can just not do that. Like you, it's, I, you can even be like owned by me. And I'm like, it's fine if you go see other people and they're like, no, God, I want you to punish

me if I do it. I want you to be really harsh with me. And I'm like, I'm not going to like, no, like I don't care. Well, that's what I think is. And this was like when I had these conversations with this guy, we're like, you have the character. Yes. And then like, sometimes you're like, okay, can we talk? Can we talk for a second? Can we be rational human beings for a second? When are we doing a business trend?

Like when are we not doing characters? But I could understand if I was super into it, I'd be like, never break character. Daniel Day-Lewis, this shit. Well, there's a way to also still maintain the character and still let your guard down a little bit. Or you can show other sides of yourself that are still like,

you just get to flesh out the character even more. Are there any clients that you have an emotional attachment to? Do you keep yourself separate? Like, how do you, I just think it's, it's like, I mean, imagine I would consider it the same way with therapy where it's just like some people you might care about some people you hate and you're just doing it for the money.

I mean, it's, it's, it's just a lot to a balance emotionally when I imagine some of them are very emotionally dependent on you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and granted, I don't see most of them regularly cause I cost a lot of money. So like, so there's only so much of my time that they can have. Um, and, and if they're disrespectful of that, then like, you know, I'll block them and have maybe like an unblock fee or something like that. But there's definitely there's I would say there's like there's a few I like really get along with really well and I can have real conversations with. But in general, like there's like one that's like actually like a really good friend of mine and everyone else. I like have pretty like I hang out with them separately.

I mean, it would be like, we would also do a session, but he's also like, he also doesn't live in town. Like, so he like used to live in like London. And so like, it would only be like when he'd be in town and he would also like, take me to go see Hamilton or like, let's go to like. And when you're seeing Hamilton, do you laugh with him too? Or do you go? Yeah.

This person in particular is more into like foot worship with like some femdom stuff. He's not necessarily while he does pay me well for the session, he's not like into fin dom. That's like its own niche. There's a lot of different niches within it. So my specialty is fin dom, but there's plenty of stuff that's just like, I'm doing dominatrix work.

Oh, uh, Oh, I was gonna ask what? So that's first foot party. No, no. So,

um, so the people in your life, what's been their kind of, uh, relationship to like you doing, or, you know, how was this received amongst friends, family, that sort of thing? Were there any people that were like very like against it or, or, you know, what's been that journey for? I, I've definitely had a lot of like partners who

acted like they were cool with it. And then we're like, not, or not with certain aspects, you know, there's definitely like a lot of stigma attached to it. Um, so I've like had to navigate through that and had my own shame with that. Did you ever stop doing something as you were like, ah, this partner doesn't like toes in the mouth. I'll, I'll take that off the menu. Um, I definitely did like get a little like stricter with like, I don't know if I'm trying to think if I had like specific, you open up the trench coat and there's like a sweater on and they're like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. I mean, and, and granted, like I ended up breaking up with this one person. Cause he was,

I mean, like, just like in a nutshell, he was like, oh, you're a hypocrite that like, you don't like people cat calling you, but you cool to like if you like make money like when they sexualize you and i'm like different experiences i'm like yeah that's the consent those are very different so i pose a question to you let's say nicole uh the pr thing her job doesn't look great and she goes russell i have found a great way to make money i i go to parties and men suck on my toes. You're cool? 100%? As long as it's safe. ATM Trench Code? This would be a new thing.

I'm just saying, do you think you're the kind of person who could process that and be like, fine. I think I could. It might take a little bit and some deeper conversations about things. I would also it just would it would probably be surprising if it was like thrown on me right now but i i also think that i think i could i think i could um i think i could too but i would have i would

definitely have like a lot of questions about like what's definitely wouldn't think that it's the same as being cackled being cool being c being cackled. Because that is like a. That feels more like you're. It sounds like you're reaching for something, too, because you're not happy. Yeah. He he also like had some misogynistic stuff that I would like call him out on. And so he was like, you think I'm a misogynist, but here you do this thing. And I'm like, OK, yeah, we didn't last.

But yeah, the other thing, too. And again, there's also like different levels of doing this. For instance, a lot of, um, people do it solely online and never meet in person. Um, I don't, since I don't show my face online, like, so that's your rule. That's you figured that out. Yeah. That's, that's a rule. That's a rule. I don't show my face online. I don't show like do nudity on my end. How do you, do you view this as your side hustle? Yeah. Or my day job.

I call it my day job. Yeah. Because like, you know, you talked about for this, on this podcast, you're like, you're not going to say your, your Fyndom name because where it's like part of it, like, well, if you, if this was your main thing, do you become a Fyndham celebrity? And eventually, you know, the only people who can have you, it's 20 grand a set. Like, I mean, some people I'm sure build little empires, little followings. Yeah. I mean, and I, I've had one that then Twitter shut down. Like I, I was up there in

like, I mean, I still am like, I still have all my clients and stuff, but yeah, I had 57, 57,000 followers for like a niche, like imagine a niche market for that. Yeah. You know, it was, and what kind of tweets were you posting? Um, and I'm still known, but, um, you know, I, I would just tweet also mostly pictures like of either, or sometimes some video of me at the ATM or there was, there's, there's a level of like keeping up an appearance of always being like really rich that we all have to kind of do. But it's just pictures. Was your mouth in there or just neck? Mouth, mouth down. And it just be like eating a fancy meal. Yeah. Like sometimes I would be out with people and like, I would go through periods where I like wouldn't drink at all. sometimes I would be out with people and like,

I would go through periods where I like wouldn't drink at all. And I'd be like, let me hold your wine. And I take a picture of me like with the wine or like, I'd be, you know, tweeting something about like, someone be like,

what are you up to now? Goddess. And I'd be like, I'm out at like a fabulous club. And I'm like in a like dingy rehearsal for like improv, like being like, Oh my God. You're a ripley career yeah i'm at champion studios just like champion just like i'm having oysters like none of it i use like a

picture from last week yeah yeah yeah but also making money while i'm uh you know they're at champion studios and twitter are people like just sending you, you know, I'm assuming there's a link and like people are, are you having private, like D like how does that work? How are you interacting with people digitally? Yeah. So you can like, either I would be interacting with them on Twitter, on only fans, I'm on only fans on usually in the top two to 5% of only fans.

Wow. No nudity, no face. You're what are you, you're just posting the same kind of stuff on there? Uh, yeah, I actually, here's, here's a crazy thing. I'm not, uh, we're not allowed now. All these mastercard rules. Remember when OnlyFans almost shut down? Yeah.

There's all of this new, um, restriction stuff with. And I cannot show me in public, even if like no one else is in it, I can't show me with like a client and it looks like a session, especially if there is like, they have to be tagged. If any, if anyone else is appearing in my stuff, even if they have like a mask on,

they have to like have like be tagged to really make sure, you know, they're there. Consensually. Yeah. Yeah. But also like. And this was not so.

So just for those. Let me see if I have it correctly. Only fans kind of said we're not going to allow sex work anymore. There was a huge backlash. Yeah. Sex work, porn, nudity, all sorts of rules. And it was partly because they were having trouble with with getting cash and MasterCard. Yeah. And then they said, okay, we take it back. But there's still a shitload of rules.

Intense rules. I can't show me with cash, like, especially with another like person. Are people happy or people furious at OnlyFans still? There's, uh, I think like, yeah, this is, it's a mixed bag.. I think most of us are very frustrated with OnlyFans. It's a very, they really police us hard. And there's always the possibility of you getting your account suspended or shut down. But if it was, you'd be okay because you have clients. When you lost your Twitter, was that a tear? I lost my TikTok for a day and I had a nightmare. Yeah, it was a huge, huge blow. Because also like so many things.

And what was the reason for? I don't know. This is the worst part. They never told me. They didn't give me warning. They just shut it down. I tried to appeal. No one responded.

I mean, try to, if you have a friend who works at these. I mean, that's all it is. It's so, I'm lucky because I'm in a circumstance where it's like, I know maybe some people who know some people at the thing and they can turn it back on. But just because I'm on the right, the good side of it, I'm like, this is not a good system.

That's people, this is a public utility borderline at this point. Especially because the rules change. Like, you know. And they're not, a lot of it's computers doing it or one person complaints. Yeah, just bots looking for certain words. Garbage, garbage, garbage. So my guess is it was like an old tweet that taken out of context would

have been considered like violence or, you know, like hate speech or something. It would be funny if it was just like an edgelord joke and had nothing to do with Fyndom. They're just like, this is bad. Uh, cause there's,'s i mean there's full-on porn on twitter yeah like i i have to stop looking at twitter like i don't follow like a lot of porn stars but there's some like comedians that do porn and i'll be like i'll be looking at my phone at the hairdresser and all of a sudden it's like someone just getting dp'd and i'm like ah i wasn't scary. So one, one question I had was, obviously you're like, compared to the general population to participate in this work,

you're kind of more open sexually or, or, or willing to like explore these sides. What do you think stops you from, is there a term for sex work that involves having sex and sex works that, that is this, is there anything to delineate because you haven't, did you ever think about crossing that line?

Do you see it as a line or just like, I like this. I do see it as a line. I mean, for me, I wouldn't feel comfortable. I mean, I I've even,

the way I even discover my roles is also obviously by breaking them, by being like, Oh, that's a boundary. Like, you know, like being like, that was too much. I mean, I I've even, the way I even discover my rules is also obviously by breaking them by being like, Oh, that's a boundary. Like, you know, like being like, that was too much. And so there were definitely like instances where, you know, guys would push to do something and I'd be like, okay. Um, like one guy kept wanting to like lick my asshole. And I was like, I don't feel comfortable with this. And I was like, there's a lot of people that like ass worship. And I was like, okay, if you like kiss my butt and stuff, all right, we can try this. And again, it was him wanting me to be dominant, but he was pressuring me to do things I didn't want to do. And he kept just like, every time he would like move the thong out of the way and like, and go for it. And every time I would be like, I don't like that.

That makes me uncomfortable. He'd be like, I'm sorry, goddess. And then he'd stop and then he'd just go right back and do it again. Yeah. And so I was like, okay, no more of like ass worship. Like, like anything like close, it was just like, it just felt like too much. It felt like too invasive for me. Yeah.

I also generally am not like, I'm, I'm not like attracted to my clients. So like, that's, you know, there's a lot of people that will like get into relationships that like, maybe they do have attraction with their clients. I have just such, such walls up, which is always kind of been my vibe. Like I've never enjoyed men hitting on me. I'm always the one to make the first move actually. Um, cause I just feel like, I think to me it feels like I just like, oh, they're just trying to have sex with me. Like I can't trust what's coming out of them. I can't like get to know them from like a more relaxed place. So anytime I've like, you know, ended up, you know, dating someone it's because I generally have

made the first move. Um, and we were in a situation where they, maybe they couldn't hit on me or they, you know, we were just friends, whatever it was. So that's specific to me. I don't, I wouldn't say, I mean, I would say in general, like doms, like dominatrix is like, mostly it's like about them doing stuff to other people. And usually they have pretty like intense boundaries and walls. And that's like why they choose that, um, to like have the power to have that control. Um, but yeah, like I would say, you know, most escorts are like, that's probably, that probably means that maybe sex is on the table, but there also should always be a discussion about it. Right. Or like sugaring. It's like,

again, a lot of gray area. Like there are a lot of people that do sugaring that like don't have sex or maybe they do with certain clients, but not with others or whatever it is. So I think it just really depends on the person. Yeah. Do you have friends that do sex work and they have sex? Um, I've, I've known some that have, I would not currently, I have, I have, I know, know a girl who is a friend of mine who, uh, she lives in LA now, so I don't really see her very much. Um, but she used to, and like worked at a place. Yeah.

Um, does it feel like a community, like akin to the comedy community or a community? It does a little bit. It does. There is like, I actually have a bunch of, uh, fin dumb friends that I like met through Twitter and like, we'll hang out sometimes. And right now there's like a whole group text thing going about this. Um, this one sub that has like a lot of money that these like pretty famous fin ds have that we're all doing like a group, like ganging up on this sub and like, we all get money. So like we did a whole Superbowl thing and like, it was like this whole spread of like, okay.

If like, you know, the Gatorade is blue, then like these doms get this money or whatever. Yeah. I think it's sometimes interesting where with some of these guys that it seems like they have so much money that it doesn't hurt their bottom line. Some of them. Yeah. But they still get to play the game. Yeah.

Of it. It's also a lot of these people have a lot of, um, like feeling like they don't deserve their money. And so this is a way for them to like, let go of that. Um, and again, like in general, like anything where there is like trauma or shame, like sexualizing, it turns it into pleasure in your body and like allows you to feel it and move it rather than like, don't feel that don't think that thing. So like in general, like these darker fantasies, like even being humiliated and called a loser is like, is like moving a deep thing,

like out of you in a way and like being able to express it and like face it as opposed to like, you know, trying to avoid it and never deal with it. And it just building up. And then ultimately do you, is this something that you're like one day, I just want to put this down and move on? I think I'll, I mean, there's, there is an element that like can be quite exhausting sometimes depending on the clients. And then there's some clients that are so great. I think I would just like keep certain clients like as like a possible thing here and there. Do you ever fear it'll come back? And is there any of that actor fear of like, I'll get cast in a Disney thing?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's why I don't show my face because if I showed my face, I would make so much more money. Really? These women there's, they make like $7,000 a day, like just on like clip sales, which is like not even having to interact with people. And I do, I actually make and sell clips and they will sell for anywhere from like 10, 15, 20 bucks a clip and people buy them and like, it doesn't even have my face, but like, luckily I'm like expressive enough and I know how to tell a story. I can tell a story. Um, but that's a huge part of it. Like my clip, like clips are so silly in the world. Um, I even like me and an ex, like we had a joke about like the names of my clips sound like, like Jenna Maroney, like films in 30

rock. Like one of them's like date night with my feet or like caught you staring. You're my foot bitch now. Like just like Jenna Maroney now stars in. And the clips are, are just, these are videos? They're videos. So what would that video be? If you made that, it would just be like, you were like, you looking at my feet. It would be like me sitting there and like, I think maybe I'm talking about something else. And I'm just like dangling my shoe. I'm like wearing stilettos and I'm dangling like my Louboutin. And I'm like, are you listening to me? You're staring at, are you staring at my feet?

It's kind of interesting where I feel like cameo is kind of like, it's, it's a similar thing. It's just like, I want to have someone like have a little personal video with me. Like cameo feels like almost like, well, it probably started in this industry. I feel like a lot of things started like in, in sex industry.

And then they come out and fight it. Yeah. I mean, only fans is changing more and more out of like sex work too. Right. Like now it's like personal training. Some people put comedy stuff on there and I'm like i just can't even imagine getting people to that only fans for them to rebrand it's like really yeah how are you gonna rebrand

right now it's like it's like if it's like if porn hub went into like unboxing videos yeah i mean it's it's tough it's tough to be like, yeah, find my unboxing channel at you. Giz.com. Yeah. It's going to be a tough sell. Um, well, this was,

uh, this was very fascinating. Does it, does it, I'm sure everyone, when they find out they have a million questions, is it fun to tell people about it? Does it?

It is. It can be a lot like, especially on like first dates. Yeah. Cause I like to tell them about it it is yeah it can be a lot like especially on like first dates like yeah because i like to tell them right away and i'm like all right here we go like you know it's yeah which i mean you know as a performer you also get a little bit of that but as you can imagine there's an even more like i need to know there's so many more follow-up questions would you ever date someone with a foot fetish? Or would that feel like work? Like they go to massage your feet.

You're the only one. The boyfriend goes to massage your feet. You're like, honey, please. I've spent all day at the office. Please don't massage my feet. I do think like they might have a difficult time. Like I might be on too much of a pedestal for someone who has a foot fetish. I think that would be why. Not because I have a problem has a foot fetish. I think, I think that would be why, not because I have a problem with a foot fetish, but yeah, it's because I might be again, the like

God demon thing, like having, having sometimes been on too much of a pedestal in a relationship, like it's, it gets exhausting very fast. Was it ever weird to be doing sketch comedy and making thousands more than your teammates could dream of making. Especially when you have to leave rehearsal and like put on a sexy outfit and pretend like you weren't in a sweaty rehearsal. Like, and just like, like the two worlds feel so different. And I used to not share it in the comedy world.

Cause I didn't want to be like, Oh, there's the girl that's a sex worker and like not, not be like seen as like a comedian, you know, who, who also does, I love you forgot to take off comedian, you know, who, who also does this. I love you forgot to take off like your old lady wig.

I had like, I have like an extra mustache that fell into my bra. Like, yeah. That'd be so funny. That, that'd be a funny. Yeah. It's an idea for me. Oh, and I'm writing a show about this. Yeah.

Do you have the name of the show yet? I don't yet. One name I'm messing with is sex job, which I feel like is pretty good, but it doesn't necessarily capture the like, you know, dominatrix aspect. So I'm not sure yet. Could just be financial domination, but that might be a pretty hard Google search. It's like figuring out something that is like the hook. That is what I do, it's like figuring out something that is like the hook that is what i do that is tough but not everyone's like so many other things will show up yeah we'll see i don't know but it's it's been like a fun a fun thing to write about listen piggies this is my show something like that it was so funny because you had a sketch where someone calls you a piggy boy like come on piggy

boy and then when i got the fin dom thing it was so funny i was like oh russell uses the same term yeah piggy boy it was like all those it was like your sketch yeah yeah um but mine just came out of thinking it was funny to for a fat person but um but uh yeah to be clear in financial domination it's because they're like a piggy bank yes yeah yeah it's like if you're like i don't have fat clients but then oh my god there are fat people are no i mean there are some people that like to be made fun of that like for their fetish it's there's all sorts most of them want me to make fun of their dick size that's like that's like he wanted you to have a small one for when you're gonna well no it's the other way he wanted me to make fun of his dick yeah oh yeah yeah i guess that well i don't know with with men and man it was i mean who knows what he wanted for me

but i maybe i'll reach out so they no yeah it opens a whole nother i um well this was can you tell when someone has a foot fetish like can you see the way that they look at feet sometimes yeah that's like one of those things have you ever like been doing comedy with someone and like that person has a foot fetish no because i was probably too busy to like think of the next joke when people i remember like i remember like one time like you know just scrolling through porn and it was like a foot video. And it's like, it's one of those things where you really see someone who has a fetish or like that enjoys something you do not. And you're like, man, people are different. Like, it's just something about seeing like someone like praising over feet.

You're like, well, people who might be out there who still are like being gay as a choice or whatever. And you see someone like with a foot fetish, you're like, you clearly were wired completely differently. This is not, it was just, it's just such an interesting when someone has something so specifically. Yeah. There's, there's a lot of talk to,

I've had a lot of clients say like they think it's because, and we will never really know. I don't think, but like one theory is that with, with foot fetishes, cause it's a very common one theory is that with, with foot fetishes, cause it's a very common fetish is that when you are, you know, I think like age like three,

four is when like your sexual like desires and what you're attracted to is like starting to develop. And so you're on the floor by a bunch of feet. So like you got that cute babysitter or your mom's friends. Sure. And you're just seeing these mom's friends and you're just seeing these feet walk by and you're like, Oh, okay. Okay. So I wrote the original example.

If, if a married couple was having sex and the baby was sucking the mom's toes, is that okay? I just don't want a baby. I just don't want the baby there. I remember, do you remember I wrote that sketch about a foot fetish uh and i thought it was so funny and then it didn't go it was fine but uh it's hard to write it was a wedding photographer who is like you know whether they take the photo of people's like nice wedding shoes yeah and it was like so it was like oh we're gonna get that shot looking down and then he just

kept removing everyone and keeping one person in and they'd be like why don't you take your shoes off oh god and it became clear so quickly that he just had a foot fetish but i remember that would be a very fun i think we just i think i think fetish comedy is tough yeah because it's like yeah i think so much is humorous about the fetish itself someone obsessed with feet like there's some it's it's it's sometimes something is so funny or interesting or unique that it's like you're adding a hat on top of a hat yeah that it can be challenging the other thing too is that the to make a joke about thing what's weird what's weird about people's reaction to the foot thing is that it ultimately the grand scheme of like kinks and things it's like seems like kind of a nice like light one do you know what i mean like like in the grand like so it's weird when i think it is weird when people are like

like think that foot fetish is so weird because you're like you're like it's feet like it's like not it just feels like pretty nice that's a nice like there's there's another reason i think uh fetish comedy is hard and often doesn't work is because it's, it's immediately explained once it's like, Oh, it's a fetish. Like there's nothing else to unpack. It's just like, Oh, they like this thing, you know? And it's like, okay, done. Yeah. Um, whereas, you know, if there's another premise where it's like this happened, what, like why? And then there's more and more reasons why there's, there's nothing else except that there's the fetish exists after that. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, well I think you'll, it's, it'll be a great one person show. Yeah. I'm excited. I mean, I'm working on it. It's coming along. I don't think I know any other like comedians who talk about it at least. No. I sent my picture of feet, my feet once I was shocked. He wanted the feet. Yeah. And Yeah, and he sent me 50 bucks. I took it from my waist in this kitchen. And it was just one of those, I was like, this is not worth 50 bucks. You could go on my Instagram and find a picture, a picture.

I'm on that website, Rate the Feet. I remember my friend Chris and I, like someone just took a picture from, you know, something we did on TV. And I think I did not have a great score. Well, this has been a fantastic interview. Did you want to do a This Gotta Stop or a blessing? Did you have something?

Did I what? Oh, all right, good. That's a good answer. It was in the email. It's fine. We normally do. Oh, no, no, yeah, yeah. The blessing.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Sorry, you just spoke fast. I know. Do you have a This Gotta Stop you want to share okay. Sorry, it just spoke fast. I know. I'm the best. Do you have a, this has got to stop, you want to share with us? I do.

I do. Okay, so last night, I realize this will be later, but we just saw the Super Bowl. Uh-huh. And this person's turned to me when we were watching it and was just like,

you know how many people bet about, oh, when they were singing the national anthem, they're like, you know how many people bet for this person to mess up? And I'm just like, that's why I feel like even if people aren't betting on this, it's like so many people, I feel like when we watch people like performing, especially the national anthem or like, you know, you can see how nervous they are.

And I feel like some of it is because we're all watching, like, gonna fuck up are they gonna fail like it's this like very like judgy who was it oh god i don't remember her name i was too busy reacting to this i don't disagree with you unless it was like someone that i'm like i hate this bitch yeah but like no but it's this weird thing i'm like there's a weird thing with the super bowl yes with with both the the the thing and the halftime show where it's every year, it's like, impress me. Yeah. Like, we're all at home being like, we're like kings and queens that should be like, are owed this like huge, wonderful thing every year.

And you're like, it's just one of those things where you're like, it's relatively the same every year. Yeah. I also think with this, it's like, we're also bored of the national anthem. So we're like, it's just one of those things where you're like, it's relatively the same every year. Yeah. I also think with this, it's like, we're also bored of the national anthem. So we're like anything. Yeah. So maybe, yeah. Like a new song, maybe.

Could we just be like, oh, that's a nice song. Rather than like, I heard this song a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Are they going to do the part, the part that's hard? Oh, that's the part that's hard. When I was a singer, I did like to see men fail like cracking like they were cracking compilations yeah it was just surprised to you that i struggle with

feeling joy for other performers this is a new trait that i've introduced to you i had no idea you're like this um i normally have a sound cue this new board i didn't put the new sound but this has got to stop that was a great this has got to stop give performers a chance yeah it's not easy super bowl is the worst circumstances you're in i was thinking about it watching the halftime show where like it might they're surrounded by people but they're so far away yeah so like snoop dogg and all they really gotta though they had it so easy like snoops must have sent that song the song the songs that he was rapping i don't know a thousand times in his life. He's probably like, we don't even need to run a dress of this.

I'm just going to kind of dance, and I know the words really well. That's got to be fun, man. There's just a weird thing where it's like, I don't know, it's like, I don't know, you guys put on a show. There's just a weird thing where people are at home. I love that. They knock on someone's door.

Hey, come here. Why don't you do it? No, no, no. We're not going to have Aerosmith this year. You get in charge of designing and picking the balloons and the lasers that we're going to be using. You do it. You know, I, it's just a very, uh, yeah, I agree with you. This show was fun. I thought it was a fun, a perfectly entertaining halftime show. That's all I watched. Oh, I thought it was wonderful. The halftime show. Yeah. I was into it. And then, and then 50 cent put on a little bit of weight and everyone went fucking nuts making fun of 50 cent getting fat and i was it was one of those things

where i'm like guys he's like 50 he said that we weren't gonna do this also he hung upside down he hung upside down i guess like in the music video in the music video he was upside down for a portion of it so like when he came on stage, he was upside down. What song did he do? You Can Find Me at the Club. Oh, yeah. And it was funny because he did put on some weight and he was upside down. So it's just like the whole image

was like, what's going on? Was he on the top floor and he fell through? And finally, oh, there's no butt. Let's see what the computer has. This is you. Better count your blessing.

Russell, you have a blessing to wrap us out. Come back to me. Fuck you. What the fuck? No. Oh, my blessing. My mother, I guess she's been listening to the podcast. Really? And immediately, it is not a great sign.

Every time a family member is like, I've been listening to the podcast. I'm like, it is not a great sign. Every time a family member is like, I've been listening to the podcast. I'm like, Oh fuck, fuck, fuck. What did I say? What did I say about them?

So mom, if you're listening, I love you. She'll always be like some of the stories. I don't, she doesn't say I remember them differently. She goes, some of the stories didn't happen.

Like you say them. And I go, I disagree, but mom, I do appreciate it. It's nice that you listen yeah uh she says she does it on hikes and i i hope you know everything i say about you they're they're all jokes yeah um i was gonna say um i i i am very thankful for um and it's kind of generic, but, uh, music. No, no, no. Um, uh, I, we had a great show Friday and I, anytime we have an uncle function show, uh, it's good. And I love doing it so much with this group,

but I felt like it was a particularly good energy sold out crowd. I felt it was, it was a great, great show from start to finish. And, um And I always feel very thankful for the group. It brings me a lot of joy. Jessica Fry, who teaches at NYU, has these students come out. And this is my first time really witnessing it. Yes. Where like when she comes out on stage. Oh, yeah.

You know what? This is a horrible fantasy to reveal. Where, you know, I thought, oh, I can't even say it out loud. It's so narcissistic there's something well there's something like oh one day like a bunch of people are gonna come and i'm gonna go out and it'll be like at the beginning we go uncle russell uncle chris uncle joe marco and like you think someday all the all your instagram fans are gonna come yeah one day all these instagram fans will finally buy a ticket but let me tell you when

it was like it was like uncle uh chris big woo uncle douglas big woo uncle jim marco slightly smaller woo and then uncle jessica like the loudest like oh my god people going great like the beatles yes walked on stage and uh it was just it was it was pretty wild it's pretty wild like to just be there and be like wow yeah she's gonna look how many people came here for you yeah well also i really think they all got tickets because they were like we had sold a decent amount of tickets before but i think we sold like 40 50 tickets that last day so i think i have to imagine most of those are like those kids do your clients ever come to your shows um again like most of them

don't pretty much all of them don't know my real name so yeah so no if i was if i was a doll i'd be like come to my improv show it's five dollars you got that you little piggy you're gonna see me play a drunk little pirate boy um and do you do you have a blessing? I do have a blessing. Um, I, uh, zoom cooking classes in particular, my friend Lexi does this one. Oh, her, her, what is it? Her Insta is le petite Friday, like the little Friday. And it's just so nice to like, get to like, learn how to cook something. Like, especially like last night I made like meringue, like these like pavlovas with like a homemade orange curd. It was just like epic.

But like, you get to also learn how to do it, like in the comfort of your kitchen. Like, I feel like, you know, and she can walk you through when you're like, I think I messed up. Like, I feel like either you go to a place with like a pristine kitchen and you're like, okay, I have to recreate this in like my crappy kitchen. Or you are like watching a thing or reading a thing. And you're like, I don't know if this is right. Like to have someone who's like an expert, like be able to be like, uh, show me like how much it's dripping from the spatula. And they'll be like, keep going. Like it's really, really helpful. Um, and just really fun. Um, well her, her Insta is le petite Friday, le petite Friday, but she does these cooking classes regularly. Yesterday was like an epic

one for, for Valentine's day. It was the love day one. So we made, yeah. Mini pavlovas. We made, uh, like a carbonara, um, scallops in brown butter with capers and then a butternut squash and like walnut salad. That sounds so good. You hear that Tova? Check it out. Petite Friday. Can't wait to see,

um, uh, anything you want to plug? Uh, I feel like shows are like slow, like dripping in. So I don't know. I think like,

I think my magnet team is starting. Yeah. Musical improv. What's the name of my magnet team is starting shows nightshade nightshade go see nightshade yeah and they'll be popping up uncle function it's the second friday of every month second for march 11th is our next show march 11th i see friday so you don't do march 11th do the second Friday of the month after. For me, find me online. But headlining LA March 30th. I'm doing Gilda's Laugh Fest in Grand Rapids, Michigan in April. Got a date in Detroit coming up soon. Lots of dates. Just check out my accounts at JoeMarcoCerese.

And just in case you're listening, the guy that I did the Fendom with, whose name I don't remember. I don't know if you ever told me your name. I would not put it past you that you're listening the guy that i did the fin down with whose name i don't remember i don't know if you ever told me your name i would not put it past you that you're not listening i have a big fat cock big 12 inch monster hog so much money and and reach out with whatever account and i think i think my girlfriend will be on board because she wants to go to New Orleans. That's the only way it's happening. This is the downside. One, two, three. Downside.

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