The Dr. Hyman Show - Ask Mark Q&A #7: Grains, Sleep Hacks, Fatty Liver, And More
Episode Date: November 9, 2020Ask Mark Q&A #7: Grains, Sleep Hacks, Fatty Liver, And More | This episode is brought to you by Dr. Hyman's Sleep Master Class and the Pegan Shake In this Q&A series, Dr. Mark Hyman takes live questio...ns from his community. For a chance to speak with Dr. Hyman during a future Ask Mark Q&A, text your question to 413-225-8995 using the hashtag #askmark Topics covered in this episode include: Are grains okay to eat, and if so, what are the best grains to eat? Tips for improving your quality of sleep Resetting your adrenal glands The best pre- and postnatal diet Staying hydrated and the power of electrolytes Sugar cravings and addiction Food sensitivity testing Benefits of fasting Supplementing with protein powders Fatty liver and autoimmune disease This episode is sponsored by Dr. Hyman’s Sleep Master Class and the Pegan Shake. In this modern world we place too much value on staying busy and deprioritizing sleep, which is why Dr. Hyman created his first ever Master Class. It guides you through the most important steps to getting better sleep, starting today. Get free access to Dr. Hyman’s Sleep Master Class at drhyman.com/sleep. The Pegan Shake features a combination of collagen, pumpkin, and pea protein with healthy fats from my two favorites: MCT oil which is great for fat burning and brain power as well as avocado oil. I’ve also included acacia fiber to help with gut motility and digestion. Check it out at getfarmacy.com/peganshake. Mentioned in this episode: Dr. Hyman’s Sleep Master Class Ziva Meditation Cortisol Manager TB12™ Electrolytes E-Lyte LyteShow 10 Day Reset
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Hey everybody, it's Dr. Mark.
How you doing?
I'm so excited to be here again with this new format of a live Q&A show that I'm doing for my whole community.
So welcome. We're calling it Ask Mark, and it's where I take questions from my text community and invite those people to come on live and ask me their question.
Now, we have about 10 to 12 people that are going to join us today to ask their question. If you want to ask a question in the future, all you have to do is text me, 413-225-8995. That's 413-225-8995 with the hashtag Ask Mark. And my team might pick your question
in the future and you get to chat with me personally. Now, I can't give medical advice,
so if I do, I'll go to jail. So I can't tell you how to fix your problem. But I can give you a big picture advice of how I would approach various challenges with people's health.
So let's go right into our first guest.
Do we have Zach?
Welcome, Zach.
What's your question?
Good.
What's your question? So I have heard you mention that you consume black rice occasionally as one of the grain sources I've heard in a couple of your podcasts.
And I'm wondering today if you consume any other grain other than black rice.
And then my follow up to that is if we are buying organically, shopping local, and we've tested ourselves and we don't have too
much of a problem with grains, what are your top ranked grains? Great. Okay. Perfect question. So,
you know, I finished my new book called The Pegan Diet, which tries to be inclusive instead of
reductionistic, which is what most diets are. And I talk about grains in the book. And if you don't
have certain health issues, right, I'm just going to put a caveat on. And if you don't have certain health issues, right?
I'm just going to put a caveat on it.
If you don't have severe digestive issues
or diabetes or certain autoimmune diseases,
grains can be a healthy part of your diet.
If you have any of those conditions,
it may be a problem.
So I think it might be tricky
if you have a lot of grains,
if you have digestive issues,
autoimmune disease, or diabetes, or if you're overweight, which is about 75% of Americans.
But you look pretty skinny and healthy, so that's okay. So I actually have some grains. If I don't,
I actually, I lose too much weight. I probably shouldn't say that in public, but I like sweet
potatoes and little starchy stuff because it keeps me going because
I'm very active and do a lot of exercise. So if I'm picking grains, I love black rice. It's the
blueberries of grains. It's essentially full of proanthocyanidins, which are powerful antioxidants.
It's much lower in glycemic index, so it doesn't raise blood sugar as much. And it tastes good.
And it's called forbidden rice or the emperor's rice because it was a very rare form of rice that was used in China. So I love black rice. And I would
say, you know, I have a half a cup, but I don't have it every day. I have it on occasion. There
are other grains that can be actually okay that are quote non-grain grains. So wild rice is
actually not a grain, the seed, that's fine. Buckwheat is actually great. And there's an
incredible variety of different buckwheats. One of them is Himalayan tartary buckwheat is actually great. And there's an incredible variety of different buckwheats.
One of them is Himalayan tartary buckwheat, which I write about in the book,
The Pegan Dive, which is coming out in February. And that is a really unusual form of Himalayan
buckwheat that is one of the most powerful superfoods on the planet, full of immune boosting
properties and antioxidants. So that's a great food and there's ways to get it through different
vendors, although it probably will be more in production over the next few years.
Quinoa is great, although quinoa is higher in protein and also has a lot of antioxidants.
The problem with quinoa is that we've made it such a sexy grain that the South Americans who
were relying on it for their main source of carbohydrate and grain, which is very healthy, can't afford to buy it anymore because all the fancy Westerners are liking it.
And they are actually having to eat rice and other grains that are super starchy, and there's increasing rates of obesity and disease.
So it's really a problem.
Also, there's other grains that you can use that are weird grains, things like amaranth or teff, which are the gluten-free grains.
Those are things you can use.
Other grains, you know, like millet can be okay, although that can be a little starchy.
And I think if you're non-gluten sensitive, not everybody is, I think I would stick with kind of weird forms of gluten-containing grains, whether it's spelt or rye
or triticale or other forms of gluten-containing grains that might not be as bad as Western wheat.
If you are going to eat wheat, I would definitely encourage you to get wheat that's not from America
because of the way we breed it. It creates a lot of issues. It increases the starch content.
It increases the gliadin
proteins, which cause celiac and gluten sensitivity. It increases the problems of
glyphosate, which is often sprayed at the end of harvest to dry it out. It's to make it easier to
harvest. So you're getting glyphosate right at the end of the season, which is a microbiome buster.
And it's all preserved in this country with something called calcium propionate, which is a microbiome buster and it's all preserved in this country with something
called calcium propionate which is a neurotoxin so and that's why kids get all wigged out often
when they eat wheat and plus it produces all these excitotoxins like gluteomorphins which can be very
neuro active and and trouble for your brain and be very addictive um and that's why you know we eat
about 133 pounds of flour per person in America every year, which
is a lot. So I'm not a big fan of that. There are heirloom forms of wheat. There's Kernza wheat,
which is grown by West Jackson out in Kansas. It's a very cool form of wheat that's very deep roots.
It builds soil. It creates a regenerative agriculture cycle. It's a perennial wheat.
There are also forms of wheat like einkorn
wheat, which is an heirloom grain wheat. And so there's heirloom, heirloom grains that I think
can be fine. But you know, just pay attention to your body, how you feel, how's your digestion,
what happens to your weight, metabolism, insulin levels, you know, eating it as part of a nutrient
dense meal with good fats and protein can be fine. Awesome. Is oats that list at all?
Like steel-cut oats?
Oh, yeah, oats.
I was going to ask about oats.
Okay.
So, you know, often they say oats are gluten-free or gluten-free oats.
Well, there was a review of a very interesting review of oats.
It said they were gluten-free.
And when they analyzed them in a lab, they really weren't.
So I've seen this over in my practice. If someone's gluten-sensitive, really gluten-sensitive,
unless they get off oats, they're not going to get fully better. So, I think oats are in that
same category. If you're going to have oats, you know, have the steel-cut oats or whole oat groats,
which you can make, not even steel-cut, just whole oats. And that can be better. And I think
that's much better than refined oatmeal, which is very, very high glycemic and will put on weight.
Okay.
Awesome.
Thanks so much.
Thanks, Zach.
So, and I think we'll have, I'd be our next guest.
Hi, Anne.
How are you?
Hi, Dr. Hyman.
Thanks for having me.
Of course.
Good to see you.
Thank you.
Um, my question is about sleep. I've had problems with waking up at night around three o'clock at the same time. And then once I wake up, I can't fall back asleep. And so my question is,
could this be related possibly to adrenal dysfunction? I'm assuming I'm having cortisol
at that time of night. Yeah. So cortisol is something we all need.
But when our circadian rhythms are out of balance, when we don't have the right regulatory
pathways that are controlling our cortisol and melatonin, we tend to be dysregulated.
And if you're under chronic stress, which we all are now given COVID, given
politics, given climate change, given the economy, you know, given the divisiveness in our society.
I mean, I just feel really unsettled by what's happening in the world as most of us do. And I'm
very fortunate. I, you know, have a job still, but I just, I think it is a stressful time. And of course, whether work is
stressful, relationships are stressful, life is full of stresses. So the question is, how do you
tend to regulate your circadian rhythm and cortisol and melatonin in a more effective way? And I think
there's a lot of good science about this. First of all, it's really important to get morning
sunlight for 20 minutes or so without sunglasses first thing to get morning sunlight, you know, for 20 minutes
or so without sunglasses first thing in the morning. If you can get outside for the walk,
really great to affect your pineal gland, which resets your circadian rhythms in the morning.
Really important at night to wind down and often we go, go, go, go, go, and then jump into bed and
like go to sleep. We're tired, we fall asleep, but then we wake up because we're still in an activated state. So
create a bedtime ritual. I, you know, maybe in a couple hours before bed, start to wind down,
read a book, stay away from screens, get off your email, get off your phone, use blue blocker
glasses to deal with the light pollution that is really often a problem. Make sure that, you know,
you engage in practices to reset your
adrenal glands. And these are things that are, you know, been used throughout history, whether
it's meditation or yoga or deep breathing or guided imagery or, you know, hypnosis. I mean,
whatever you like, there's all kinds of apps and inside timer and, you know and a number of different really great apps that you can use to sort of
calm yourself down. I think those are really important. Taking a hot bath often will help.
So with Epsom salt, Epsom salt is a very powerful muscle relaxant because the magnesium,
glutathione, detoxifying, you add some lavender drops in there. And that lavender, they make
lavender baby bath because it actually calms the babies down.
And as science knows, Johnson and Johnson makes this and the lavender will lower cortisol before you go to bed.
Sometimes taking a little extra melatonin before you go to bed can help.
A little magnesium to calm your nervous system can help.
And so you sort of stack all these things together can really, really be effective.
And then, you know, it's your mindset also, you know, what's your mindset like?
How are you?
Are you are you?
I mean, I am a victim of this, too.
I mean, like, you know, the news is very disturbing right now.
And like today, I've been on a house cleaning project and I didn't pay attention to the
news and I feel so much happier.
That's like it's like, you know, there really is very little good news out there. It's unfortunate.
There's a lot of good news happening. It's just not reported on. And so it's not something that
we can actually control that much, but we can do a news fast. We can, you know, coffee is another
thing that tends to rev us up. Caffeine, if you're really struggling, can be a problem.
Cutting out alcohol at night can be really helpful.
And so stacking all these things together, you can start to rechain your sleep rhythm and really help a lot.
Noziba Meditation is a great online course for meditation.
It's 20 minutes twice a day.
So powerful.
For me, I couldn't live without it.
It helps me to sort of drop in, slow down, stop, get off the merry-go-round for a minute,
and be with myself.
And it's almost like three hours of sleep, you know, when you do a deep 20-minute meditation.
So I encourage you to explore all that.
And if you are struggling, there are adaptogens, mushrooms and various kinds of herbs that can be really helpful in your cortisol. We sell
something on our online store, drhyman.com, called Cortisol Manager that can help at night. You can
take a few of those and magnesium. So there's some supplements that can often be helpful too.
So a lot of information. I've written a lot about this. You can Google Hyman Sleep. In fact,
we have a whole sleep masterclass, which you can go on our website and find out and learn.
There's lots of experts and lots of guidance about how to do these things.
It's like five hours of instruction.
So that's available as well.
So no lack of information.
I hope this was helpful.
Okay.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Sure.
And our next guest is Christina.
Welcome.
Unmute yourself, my friend.
Oh, I knew I was going to do something.
I was going to say, I'm so excited to finally meet you.
I have like three yearbooks and I'm like, what the heck to eat to so many people.
But I basically I have true celiacs.
I'm having a baby in two weeks.
So congratulations.
Thank you.
I already eat gluten free and I already eat grain free.
But during this pregnancy, I've had to eat gluten free bread, toast for morning sickness and rice for morning sickness.
So I haven't really been grain free this whole pregnancy, but I was thinking, my question
really is, is I want to go back to the pagan diet again once I have the baby. And I was wondering,
is that something I can do during nursing or is it, should I continue?
I love these questions. Can I eat healthy during pregnancy? Can I eat healthy during nursing?
No, I think you should go to McDonald's. You should drink six Cokes a day and have 14 Oreo cookies because that's proven to
be safe. But eating vegetables, having whole foods, not having chemicals, pesticides, I don't know.
We don't know much about that. I'm forced to eat that kind of diet. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It's
a funny question because nobody, is it okay for mothers to eat junk food?
Is it okay for mothers to eat sugar?
Is it okay for mothers to drink milk and have dairy when they're pregnant?
Probably not, right?
But people wonder, is it okay to eat a healthy whole foods diet?
Yes, of course it is.
In fact, not only is it okay, it's essential when you're pregnant and when you're
nursing because you're literally programming your genes of your baby. There's a phenomenon called
epigenetics, which is a really fascinating discovery in the last few years that we can
tag our genes. So think about your genes as fixed. You've got 20,000 genes. They're coding for their hard kind of, that's your
hardware, right? But, or when it was, and then what happens is the software is what gets read
off of those genes, right? So for example, let's say you have a word program like Microsoft Word,
you know, there's so many features you don't even use, right? Like it depends on which ones you
activate. So when you are pregnant and nursing, you are literally tagging or activating different genes in your baby that will program its later
health consequences. In other words, if you eat junk, you will be programmed the baby for diabetes,
cancer, and heart disease. You know, if you eat eat whole foods you'll be programming it for
health so it's really critical when you're when you're pregnant and nursing
to really double down on on eating well because if you don't you're literally
programming your baby for later stage disease in their life okay yeah well
thank you so much. That's a great question. Okay. Rezan is next. We've got one
more question now from, uh, hi. Hi, Dr. Hyman. Um, so I drink the recommended amount of water
every day, but my thirst is never quenched. What can I do? Great question. Well, there's a couple
of issues there. So just in general, you know, a lot of people don't realize
that if you drink too much water, you will actually dilute your blood. So, you know, people
say, people say, oh, you know, you shouldn't do this or that. It's toxic. But, you know, water
can kill people. In fact, it's not uncommon for, for example, marathon runners or athletes
who drink enormous amounts
of water when they're exercising to actually dilute their blood so much that they get
hyponatremic, meaning their sodium levels drop. And when that happens, you can get a seizure,
you can get, you know, brain damage and literally die. And it happens. So the key to
really staying hydrated, not just in your blood, but in your cells, is electrolytes.
Sodium, potassium, magnesium.
And sometimes calcium.
There's a lot of stuff out there you can buy that has electrolytes.
Be careful.
Some of it has a lot of additives and chemicals and weird sugars and stevia and weird things.
But there's some really great brands out there.
E-Lite is a great one.
It's just very, doesn't taste very good
because it's just, there's no sugar in it.
Light Show, L-Y-T-E, show is quite good.
Tom Brady's TB12 makes different flavors.
Those are good.
And I carry them with me
and I just put it in the water I drink.
Tom Brady never drinks any water without electrolytes.
So it's going pretty strong at 43 and keeps winning.
So it must be something to that.
So electrolytes are really, really important.
Now, there is a condition that is normal hormone that regulates your urination,
right, it doesn't work. So you're just peeing all the time and you're constantly thirsty.
I see you're shaking your head, which sounds like you. Yeah. So that can be something you
might need to see an endocrinologist about. And there's ways of testing that. The second thing is mold.
If you have mold in your house, which you may not be aware of, right, because it can be often hidden,
mold can also do the same thing in the brain, lower ADH levels. So your blood is always
concentrated, there's always peeing out water, and you need,
you always feel thirsty.
So I would,
I would think about those two things.
So try the electrolytes first.
That doesn't work.
And go see the doctor.
Thank you.
Of course.
Lila.
Okay.
Lila's coming up.
Can't wait to talk to Lila.
Hi, Lila.
Hello.
How are you?
I'm okay.
I have a question for you. I want
to know, do you crave sugar because of your brain or your microbiome is unbalanced? Because I have
an addicted brain. I haven't had liquor in 34 years. I haven't had sugar or flour for four years.
But I know for sure if I were to pick up anything with sugar, I would not be able to stop eating it.
I just, I can't stop eating.
So I don't know if it's because of my microbiome or because it's, you know, done something to the pleasure center of my brain and won't close or? Yeah, I love this question. And I love the idea that, you know, how do we
know where our cravings and addiction comes from? Is it emotional? Is it a brain addiction? Is it
coming from a microbiome? Is it something else? And I think, you know, I've written a book about
this called the 10 Day Detox Diet, where I go into great detail about the biology of food addiction, not from an emotional perspective, but actually from a true biological
perspective. So, you know, if you if you look at genetics, and I don't know, Lila, if you're if
you're making a little noise, or you put yourself on mute, because I hear a lot of background noise.
Yeah, that's better. Thank you. So I think if you look at the spectrum of issues
and the genetics involved, there are gene tests that we do now that look at the various genes
that control craving and addiction. So there's dopamine receptors. Dopamine is the pleasure
center in the brain. This gets stimulated in a
lot of ways that are positive, right? But also can be stimulated through alcohol, heroin, cocaine,
sugar, so forth. Adderall, that's what Adderall does. And so we tend to have a pleasure-pain
dynamic where we seek pleasure and avoid pain. So we are a pleasure seeking species
and that's a good thing. You want to seek out things that are going to make you feel good and
taste good and like sugar and is a great thing. If you're a hunter and gatherer and you found
some berries, you want to eat them all, right? So you can fatten up for the winter. Problem is we
just keep eating all winter. So the dopamine receptors, and there's these DR4 receptors in the
brain, these dopamine receptors, that for some people need a lot more stimulation to feel
pleasure, which then drives addictive behavior. There's also a melanocortin gene, which is another
gene that regulates melanocortin receptors, also involved in addiction craving. So we actually do
genetic panels called DNA diet, which looks at some of these genes that affect addiction craving. So we actually do genetic panels called DNA Diet,
which looks at some of these genes that affect your craving. I'm guessing if you had an issue
with alcohol in the past or addiction and craving, you might have that. If you have that, you know it,
and so you can actually say, wait a minute, you know, I know if I have a celiac gene, I shouldn't
eat wheat, right? I know if I have these addictive genes, I should be avoiding addictive things. So that's one category. Even if you're not having these genes and you have a diet
that's high in certain substances, for example, wheat. Wheat contains these gluten compounds,
which are glycan proteins. And these proteins can get partially digested
in the body. And they break down into these things called gluteomorphins, which is exactly
what it sounds like. They're morphine-like compounds made from gluten. And they bind to
the opioid receptors in the brain, and they stimulate addiction. If you ever see a kid who's
like been an autistic kid or something like that, you take away gluten or wheat? They go crazy. They literally will try to break into cabinets, steal food.
It's because of this addictive property. So wheat is another very addictive food in addition to
sugar. And not just because of the starch content that also it's like a double whammy.
So those are real, real significant issues. So if you, if you are
someone who's, who tends to eat a lot of these foods, which Americans do, right? We eat about
150 pounds of sugar and 130 pounds of flour for every person in America every year. If you do that,
you are constantly stimulating, you're constantly stimulating the receptors in your brain that are going to create
craving and addiction. And you, and, and, and it's, it's also, it's really fascinating to me
about this addiction is that it, it, it does, when you, when you look at how food is biologically
addictive, and I have a whole textbook on this, it's not just a sort of a fringe theory. This is
a medical, well-established medical concept, even though a lot of people don't buy it because they maybe haven't read the research, which I have.
But what happens is these foods actually, even if they're masked, they still have the same effect.
So a great study was done by a colleague of mine, Dr. David Littwick at Harvard,
where he took two groups of overweight guys. And on one
day, he fed him one kind of milkshake. And on the next day, he fed him a milkshake that seemed
exactly the same, but was quite different. And they checked what happened to their blood levels
of blood sugar, insulin, you know, all kinds of stuff, their craving, hunger. And also they looked
at their brain imaging, they looked at a functional MRI to see what part of the brain lit up. And what was fascinating was that even though they
thought they were having the same milkshake on both days, they had profoundly different effects.
Why? The milkshakes were the same on protein, carbs, fat, fiber, calories, exactly the same.
The only difference was where the carbohydrate came from. One was a very slow carb, very slowly
absorbed. The other was like a slow carb, very slowly absorbed.
The other was like a fast carb, very quickly absorbed like sugar.
And when they had the fast carb, the sugar carb, that actually they couldn't tell they
were having a different kind of milkshake, they were completely different biologically.
Their insulin spiked, their cortisol spiked, their adrenaline spiked.
They got hungry.
Their cravings increased.
They ate more, and their brain scans lit up in this area called the nucleus accumbens,
which is the area of the brain that is stimulated in addiction, right?
Alcoholism, heroin, cocaine, et cetera, sugar.
And it lit up, and you could see it on the scan.
It was really frightening.
So that's really a real phenomenon.
Then the question is, what else can cause cravings if you're not eating it and you're
okay?
Well, you might have the genes, but then there might be stuff going on in your gut.
And the most common thing we see is what we call SIFO, small intestinal fungal overgrowth.
And people say, oh, I have candida and all that.
Yes, that is a common thing, but it's not as common as people think.
But there is a cluster of people who have fungal overgrowth in their gut.
And when you have that, you are going to crave a lot of sugar.
And it's a disturbance in your microbiome.
So those people need to really starve the fungus.
They need to treat them sometimes with herbs, probiotics, special probiotics. One of them is called
Saccharomyces bulliardi, which is a big word, but it's a very powerful probiotic that can fight
yeast. Other ones are great as well. And then there's herbs that are great, like oregano and
thyme and other things that can be taken. So I think, you know, it needs a comprehensive look
at what's going on. I don't know if you have digestive issues or what's going on, but I think it's a really, really powerful approach and it can be
extraordinary when you actually get it nailed. So I think that that's key is get your guts sorted,
learn what your biology is doing, and make sure you're eating in a way to stop those cravings,
which particularly is best done by eating a higher fat diet, like good fats,
avocados, nuts and seeds, olive oil, avocado oil, things like that. So that's what I would say about
your cravings. Okay. What was the name of that test? You said some tests you can take to see
if you've got- Oh, it's a company that makes this test called DNA Diet.
I think you'll have to order it through your doctor.
It's a little complicated to interpret.
You might be able to get it commercially.
I don't know.
But it's just a cheek swab.
We do it in our practice at the Ultra Well in the Center,
and it helps us guide our patients.
Okay.
Okay.
Sounds good.
Of course.
All right.
We have Sherry next.
Appreciate it.
Hi, Sherry. How are you? Good. How are you?
I have a question. It is, are food sensitivity tests accurate and are they worth doing?
Ah, good one. Well, this is a great question. Are food sensitivity tests accurate and worth doing?
This is a debate that's going on in functional medicine circles for decades. And I have,
you know, the question is, it sort of depends, right? It depends on the lab. It depends how you interpret the test. It depends what they mean. I think, you know, just to sort of break down how we think about food and functional medicine,
there are a lot of ways that your body can react to food, right?
You can have a true allergy, like a peanut allergy or a shellfish allergy, where your
tongue swells up, you get asthma, you can't breathe, you go into anaphylactic shock, you
die.
Like, that's true allergy.
Call it IgE.
And then there are delayed responses. We
call it the delayed hypersensitivity, which is IgG or IgA responses. These are more subtle.
So it's not like you eat a peanut and five minutes later you're in the emergency room.
And so you might eat, you know, you might have dairy and then like a day later you get a migraine
headache, or you might have an egg and you might get diarrhea, you know, but you can't connect
the two.
It's hard to connect the two.
And then there are other reactions that are intolerances, like lactose intolerance or
fructose intolerance, where it's not a true allergy, but you don't tolerate it.
And then there's a whole sense of sensitivity to different ingredients in food. So, for example, like aspartame can cause migraines and neurologic symptoms, or MSG can cause that, you know, a Chinese food headache thing.
Those are not allergies.
Those are related to excitotoxins.
And there's other things like additives and chemicals.
We eat about three to five pounds of additives and chemicals every year per person in America. You think, oh, I don't eat that much food. How much add it? When
you add it all up, it's a lot. And those can cumulatively be a real problem. So I'm really
adamant about never eating anything with weird junk in it. I mean, someone was taking a vitamin
the other day and they're like, what is the vitamin? It's all good with iron. It looks nice.
But like I looked at, there was a titanium and red dye and yellow dye and green dye i was like i
don't know why would they die you know it's like make it a white pill who cares if it's purple you
know or green or yellow um so then there's a testing so there's true allergy testing which
you can do a skin test or you can do ige blood testing those are pretty accurate uh and are
reliable um but but most people's sensitivities are not related to that.
Very, very small, like probably 1%, 2% of allergy is that.
Then there's the delayed allergies.
And there's a lot of different labs that do testing, Immunolabs, Genova, Cyrex.
And so they can be very helpful in cases where there's a puzzle around food.
And the way I interpret them, the way I think about them, is that they're just clues. They're not definitive, and they're not allergies.
They're sensitivities. And they will change over time if you fix the gut. And usually,
they're a sign of what we call leaky gut. So when your gut becomes permeable, you've got basically
a layer of cells in your small intestine. It's one cell
thick, but if you lay it out flat, it's the size of a tennis court. And a lot of things can screw
that up, right? Our processed food diet, sugar, alcohol, stress, antibiotics, acid blockers,
C-sections, lack of breastfeeding, you know, on and on and on. I've written a lot about gut-busting
lifestyle that we have and gut-busting drugs. If you have that, then the gut
becomes permeable and starts leaking in these proteins that should be broken down. So in other
words, when you eat a chicken, you don't become a chicken. When you eat an apple, you don't become
an apple, right? It breaks it down into the raw materials, right? It's like if you have a house,
you could take all the wood apart and you could build something else, right? That's sort of
how it is when you eat. The problem is it doesn't always work that way. And you can put into your body partially digested food proteins,
and they leak in. And right underneath your gut is 60% of your immune system.
So your immune system is like, hey, what's that? That's bad. Let's attack it. And that's what your
immune system is supposed to do. But then you create these low-grade symptoms, brain fog, digestive issues, aching, fatigue,
depression, insomnia, congestion, sinus issues, headaches.
And I just, the list goes on and on.
And those can be very vague and strange
and they're what I call FLC syndrome.
That's when you feel like crap.
And the food is usually the reason.
And that's why I created the 10-Day Reset,
which is a program to eliminate most of
those common food sensitivities, reset your biology. And within 10 days, you'll know if how
you're feeling is related to what you're eating. And it usually is very powerful. It's probably
the best test. Actually, we call it an elimination diet, but I like to call it an addition diet. We
add in all the good stuff. We just take out the bad stuff. So the test can be helpful. I like some
tests more than others. But I see, for example, someone has 30 different things they're reacting
to. I'm like, oh, this person just has a leaky gut. It doesn't mean they're really reactive to
these. But if the ones are like four plus and high level ones, I'll tend to get rid of those
and then just have them heal the gut. So it really depends on the interpretation of it
and the understanding of what it means, which often, unfortunately, most people don't think, oh, I'm allergic to all these foods. I can't eat them.
No, that's not how it works. You've got to fix the gut. And the real question is not,
what are you sensitive to, but why are you so sensitive? And how do we fix that sensitivity
by rebalancing your biology, particularly your microbiome and leaky gut?
So you can fix your leaky gut without avoiding your food sensitivities.
No, you, you have to understand it's, it's complicated, right? So let's say you have 30
foods, right? Five of them are like high level reactions, right? Get rid of those five, fix your
gut and then don't eat a ton of the
other ones, but you don't have to completely get rid of them. So you're not going to be able to
fix your gut if you don't stay away from those food sensitivities. Yeah, typically. And then
the goal is, I mean, when I was very sick, I had a leaky gut and I couldn't eat anything. Like I
lived on turkey and broccoli and brown rice for like months and that still was terrible.
But then I learned how to fix my gut and I can eat anything and I'm kind of bulletproof. I mean,
if I eat dairy, I get, I get, uh, I get congested and some issues, but, uh, a little lactose
intolerance. But, but other than that, you know, if I eat sheep or goat, that's a little bit better.
So I've sort of learned how to fix my gut. And that's what I want people to do is not,
not live restricted lives, but become more resilient and healthy so that they fix the problems that led to it in the first
place. So do you recommend doing a food sensitivity test? It's in the context of working with your
doctor, depending on what they say. And I think it can be helpful, but you have to know what you're
doing. Do you do one? So I think we have another question from Michelle. So I'd love to talk to you forever, Sherry, but thank you so much for joining us today.
Hi, Michelle.
Hi, Dr. Hyman.
How are you?
Good.
How are you?
I'm doing very well.
Thank you.
My question to you is, should we be practicing intermittent fasting?
And if so, how is it done correctly?
Okay, well, intermittent fasting is, what does that even mean, right? I think there's so many
terms thrown around intermittent fasting, time restricted eating, fasting mimicking diets,
ketogenic diets, and they all do similar things and they're all different things and i'll
define all so first i'll define them and then i'm going to explain what they all do and then how to
do them and which to choose what they do is they put your body in a temporary state of starvation
or a starvation like state so whether you're ketogenic or a fasting-mimicking diet, it's a starvation-like
state. If you eat in a fasting-mimicking diet, that, for example, is five days of extremely
low-calorie diet of, let's say, 800 calories. If you have ketogenic diet that's 70% fat,
it cuts out all the carbohydrates from your diet, so you burn fat instead of carbs. So it actually,
your body thinks it's sort of starving, and you're burning up your fat stores. If you're doing time-restricted eating, you might
do a 12-hour fast, which is essentially what most people should do at the minimum. Like if you
finish dinner at eight and you eat breakfast at eight in the morning, that's a 12-hour fast.
If you eat dinner at six and you have breakfast at eight, that's a 14-hour fast. And if you eat
dinner at six and have breakfast at 10, that's a 16-hour fast. So you can do 16-hour, 14-hour, 10-hour, 8-hour fast. I mean,
sorry, I think I would never do anything less than 12 hours. So basically 12, 14, or 16.
And then there's intermittent fasting, true intermittent fasting, which may be a 36-hour
or a 24-hour fast once a week or twice a week.
So I had a patient recently who had terrible autoimmune disease, and he would do a 36-hour
fast once a week, or sometimes even twice a week. So he would skip a whole day, and then he would
not eat till the night following that day. And it really helped him fix his fatty liver. It
helped his autoimmune disease. It can be very helpful. So what they do is they do a number of different things.
One, they help to fix your metabolism.
So they burn belly fat.
They increase muscle mass.
They reduce inflammation.
They increase antioxidants.
They increase cognitive function and brain sharpness.
Because when you are starving, you want to be sharp so you can go find something to eat. It actually builds bone density and helps to increase stem cell production
and decreases inflammation and so many, you know,
better, many better things that you can do for your body just really through this process.
So it's kind of an exciting way we're learning about.
And I think there's controversial data.
There was a recent study that came out, so it wasn't as effective.
But I think there was a lot of flaws in the methodology of that study.
And I've seen clinically this be very effective.
So it's really important.
Everybody should do it.
If you're pregnant, or you're really sick, or if you're really super thin,
or your adrenals are shot, there's a lot of reasons it's not for everybody, but it can be something worth experimenting with,
and I write a lot about it in my book, The Peking Diet, which you all should get. It's coming out
February 2021, which is not that far away. We'll get it, but I do the fasting because I heard it
was, that's when your body heals, and your cells regenerate. And so I stop
eating at eight and then I don't eat until 12 the next day. That's right. But I did lose a lot of
weight and I don't want to keep losing weight. And I just want to know if that's something that's
really helping my body and should I continue it or should I just eat, you know, do it?
Well, you can, you can, you can do it a few days a week. You can do it three days a week.
You can do a shorter window of 14 hours.
But you're right.
What happens is this process of autophagy, which is where you literally, you clean up
all the bad parts and it's like a recycling plant starts at night and repair plant starts
at night.
If you're just eating the whole time, which we do, we just eat and we eat after dinner,
we eat and we get up.
You're not giving your body a chance to repair and heal.
So it's very important. It's great for longevity. Okay. Well, then I should continue it.
It's healthy. It's a healthy thing to do. Yes. Thank you. And I think we have Susan up next.
Hi, Dr. Hyman. I just first wanted to say thank you. About seven years ago,
your work helped me lose 80 pounds, which I have kept off for seven and a half years. Where did you lose it? Did you find it?
No, fortunately, it's gone.
Oh, good.
But my question today is about protein powders. And I was wondering if you could weigh kind of pros and cons of
using them as supplements or using them occasionally as a meal replacement and
what to look for if one is looking at protein powders.
Yeah. So I think there's so many protein powders on the market. And I think you want, you know, simple is best. There's a lot of complicated ones out there.
They have a lot of sugar sometimes, a lot of starch, a lot of additives, maybe stevia,
maybe various sugar alcohols.
They may be sources of protein that aren't that great. I mean, so I think it's really important that you look at what you're actually consuming.
And there are a lot of good
ones out there, for sure. There's ones from bone broth. There's ones from whey protein. If you're
not on a show of dairy, there's ones from plant proteins like pea protein. There's rice protein.
There's soy protein. I stick away from, stay away from the soy protein shakes. They tend to be the isolated soy protein. And that,
that is a really a, an industrial by-product of making soybean oil very bad for you, um,
may cause cancer in animal studies. So I tend to worry about that. Um, and so I think really,
really, um, simple proteins and depending on what you're trying to do, uh, you know, if you're older,
you tend to need more of the branch chain amino acids,
you need more leucine and others to help build muscle. So so animal proteins are of higher
concentration. So whey is a good one. I personally like goat whey. And I my personal favorite,
obviously, is one that I created, full disclosure, it's called the Pagan shake. And I was so
disgusted with most of the shakes out there. So I decided to create my own. And it's called the pegan shake and I was so disgusted with most of the shakes out
there so I decided to create my own and it's essentially what I want to have for
breakfast so it was very selfish this morning but it's basically protein fat
and fiber what you want to have for breakfast you want to get protein you
want fat to feed your mitochondria and to stop cravings and hunger. And you want fiber to feed your microbiome.
So it really is a very powerful shake.
And it tastes so yummy.
It's basically made up of organic pea protein, organic pumpkin seed protein, grass-fed collagen
protein.
It has avocado oil, MCT oil, which is a special kind of fat that helps to
stimulate mitochondria to produce more energy, to burn, it burns cleaner. It's great for your brain.
It also has a little extra leucine just to bump up the leucine to the level at which to synthesize muscle. And it's also got acacia fiber, which is a great prebiotic fiber,
which also makes you feel full, but it's great to feed the good bugs in your gut. So I love that.
And I mix berries in it, or I'll throw different things in it just to spice it up, but make
different shakes. So it's really pretty yummy. And is it okay to use
that as a meal replacement occasionally? I mean, not all the time, obviously. Sure, absolutely. I
have it for breakfast most days, you know. Okay. I mean, depending, like if I work out, I might add
a couple of scoops of goat whey in there, mix it up, just so I can actually bump up the protein,
because I'm trying to, you know, I'm old now and I need to build muscle. So I hit 60 and then I'm like, all right, I better get real with this stuff. I can't just
talk about it. Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. Thanks a lot. Sure. All right. And we have one
more guest. One more guest is Lisa Ann. Welcome Lisa Ann. Hi. So I have a quick question. It's probably not a quick question, but what role does fatty liver have to do with autoimmune
diseases?
Okay.
First of all, fatty liver in autoimmune disease is the question.
And fatty liver is probably the most common problem.
It affects over 90 million Americans, including little kids who
are sucking back the sodas with fructose, high fructose corn syrup that just causes your liver
to build and accumulate fat. Most people don't realize it's not fat that makes you have a fatty
liver. It's starch and sugar. In fact, foie gras, which means fatty liver in French, basically it
sounds nice when you say foie gras, but essentially it's what you get in fancy restaurants and it's duck liver. When they basically force feed the ducks, they put a
tube down their throat and they pour corn into the tube and they force feed them so they get a fatty
liver. And that's what they do. So it's not very good, not very nice for them. But we are all
walking around with fatty livers and you want to have very, very low fatty liver.
Why?
Because it creates a lot of inflammation, cause diabetes, cause you to gain weight,
cause heart attacks, cause cancer.
It's just not good.
And so the question you have is, and how do you fix it?
You basically give it to the starch and sugar and eat more good fats and it'll fix.
And there's other things you can do as well.
But the key here is to understand
that autoimmune disease is an inflammatory disease.
So anything that causes inflammation will make it worse.
So if you are, for example, with COVID,
we're seeing this now, if you're overweight or obese,
you're much more likely to get really sick from COVID
and end up in the ICU or the hospital
because you're already inflamed.
And then when the virus hits you, because you're already inflamed. And
then when the virus hits you, you're pre-inflamed and the fire takes off and you basically end up
with this cascading inflammation. And the same thing can happen to autoimmune disease. So I
actually never had this question before. It's a great question. I probably should have looked it
up before, but I didn't. So I would say that, you know, theoretically there is a large chance that
fatty liver can exacerbate autoimmune disease.
And I think we also know that a lot of sugar and starch in general are not great for autoimmune
disease and inflammation.
That will just cause inflammation in general.
So I think it's a good idea to do what you can to fix your fatty liver by basically eating
a lot of good food, basically like a vegan diet.
And I probably would, if you're really bad, you want to eliminate grains and beans,
you want to eliminate most fruit,
have basically protein, fat, lots of veggies, nut seeds,
and that will be your diet
because it'll really rapidly fix it.
Even MCT oil can be something that can fix it.
Alcohol obviously can cause fatty liver.
And in one study of rats, not sure how it applies to humans,
but they found that,
um, they found that when, when they were poisoning the rats with alcohol, uh, that if they gave
them just like regular oil, like whenever, uh, it didn't help.
But if they gave him MCT oil, literally reverse the fatty liver, even while they were poisoning
them with alcohol.
So I'm not, I'm not saying you should do that.
What I'm saying is that, you know, there are a lot of ways you can heal a fatty liver and I've written a lot about
it. You can just Google Hyman fatty liver and you can learn about it. How long does it normally take
to kind of reverse a fatty liver if you really focus on eating clean? It depends how bad it is,
right? But you know, let's just just if you're like 400 pounds it could
take a year right if you are you know just maybe 30 pounds overweight uh maybe only you know might
only take a few months so i think i think it just depends and you have to follow your test
and sometimes you might not even see they might even see a um a result in the lab work. You might need to do another test. There's an ultrasound test you can
do. Right. I've been doing the ultrasound tests a couple of years in a row now.
Yeah. But the key is to get the weight off, but the weight is not really the issue. It's
the diet. So if someone has fatty liver, what I tell them to do is to, you know, go, for
example, if you want to really go extreme, you can go on a ketogenic diet and do intermittent fasting.
So, I mean, that would be a very powerful way to do it. So eat, you know, skip a day of eating a
week or even do a three-day fast sometimes. Or you can do, for example, just a 16-hour fast every day and do a ketogenic diet or
any combination of those things.
That's going to make the most difference for you the fastest.
Very good.
Thank you.
All right.
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