The Dr. Hyman Show - Feeding Kids Is Hard—Here’s What They Actually Need

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

Most parents are doing their best but the modern food environment is working against them. Between ultra-processed foods, constant marketing, and confusing nutrition advice, it’s easy to feel overwh...elmed. But what your child eats doesn’t just affect their growth—it shapes their brain, immune system, metabolism, and long-term health. In this episode, we break down what actually matters and how to approach it without perfection or guilt. Here’s what every parent needs to know: • The foundational nutrition principles that matter most for kids (and why blood sugar stability plays central role) • Whether kids actually need supplements and the most common nutrient deficiencies to watch for • How to strengthen your child’s immune system through food, gut health, sleep, and daily habits • Practical strategies to reduce ultra-processed foods, handle picky eating, and support issues like eczema at the root You don’t need to do everything perfectly to transform your child’s health. Small, consistent shifts—what’s on their plate, how they eat, and the environment you create—can shape their biology for decades to come. Full Nora LaTorre Interivew - https://youtu.be/qWJ9LRAbXoY Visit ⁠functionhealth.com for 160+ lab tests at just $365 a year. Have a question you’d love answered on Office Hours? Submit it here   (0:12) Introduction and overview of children's nutrition challenges (0:33) Sponsor: Function Health (1:01) Importance of nutrient density and sugar's impact on kids (5:28) Five key nutritional anchors and supplements for kids (10:34) Building a strong immune system and transitioning off processed foods (17:02) Sponsor: Function Health (18:06) Clean snack ideas and tackling school food challenges (23:54) Diet's connection to eczema (28:48) Rapid fire Q&A: seed oils, organics, and more (33:48) Parental influence on children's health (36:04) Closing thoughts and call to action

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Starting point is 00:00:12 Welcome to office hours. This is our dedicated one-on-one space to go deeper, get clear, and explore what truly moves the needle for your health. I'm Dr. Mark Hyman, and each week we're going to pull back the curtain and share the insights, the research, the lessons that don't always make it into our conversations with guests. Because at the end of the day, you are the CEO of your own health. And for many of you, your family's health too. And you might not feel it all the time, but you have far more power in agency than you realize. I'm glad you're here. But this episode is brought to you by Function Health, empowering you to live on.
Starting point is 00:00:43 100 healthy years with over 160 lab tests for just $365 a year and use the code mark 26 to get $50 off your membership. And today we're talking about something that brings up a lot of emotion for parents, what your kids eat, children of nutrition. I just want to start by saying this. If you feel overwhelmed, I promise you're not alone. You're raising kids in a food environment that is radically different from the one most of us grew up in.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Ultra-process foods are everywhere, school lunches. sports snacks, birthday parties, playdates, it's constant. And the marketing is very powerful. So if you ever wondered, am I doing enough? Is my child getting what they need? That's a very normal question. But here's the reframe. We don't just feed kids to help them grow taller.
Starting point is 00:01:30 We feed them to help build their brains. We feed them to shape their immune systems. We feed them to influence their metabolism for decades to come. Childhood is a critical window and the habits that are formed early and the nutrients available during those years carry a very long tail. They influence everything from food and mood to allergies, to eczema,
Starting point is 00:01:53 and long-term chronic diseases like heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and even dementia. Now, this isn't about perfection. It's not about never letting your kid have cake at a birthday party. It's about understanding the fundamentals, like what really matters and making small, consistent shifts
Starting point is 00:02:08 that compound over time. And the good news is this. your kids are incredibly resilient. Their bodies are adaptable. And when you improve the quality of what goes on their plate, you often see changes very quickly. Better energy, better focus, fewer meltdowns, stronger immune function. So today we're going to answer your biggest questions. What does optimal nutrition actually look like for kids? And it's different from adults. Do kids need supplements? How do we build strong immune systems? How do you transition off of processed foods without starting World War III at home.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And what about school lunches? And what about them? We're going to talk about eczema because so many of you asked about the connection between diet and skin. At the end, we're going to do rapid-fire round of questions to tackle some of your most common, quick-hit questions. Because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:02:55 you're not just feeding your child for today. You're helping shape their lifelong health trajectory. And small changes can make a very big difference. So let's dive in. One of the biggest questions we got was, what do overall nutrition standards look like for kids? Is it different for adults? And where should parents focus? This is such an important place to begin because when you understand the fundamentals, everything becomes simpler. But here's the good news. The core principles of nutrition are actually
Starting point is 00:03:22 the same for kids and adults, right? We're human beings. Real food, stable blood sugar, adequate protein, healthy fats, fiber, phytonutrients that come from colorful plants. Kids don't need kids food. They need real food. I mean, in Japan, kids eat raw fish and seaweed. They don't eat lunche bowls and gokirts and weird franken foods because they're kids food there should be no kids food it's just food now there are a few important differences kids are growing rapidly and their brains are developing at an extraordinary pace their immune systems are still being trained so pound for a pound they actually need more nutrient density than adults not more calories from ultra-process snacks more micronutrients per bite and that means prioritizing a few things protein in every meal
Starting point is 00:04:03 because protein stabilizes your blood sugar. It supports healthy mood, and it builds muscle and brain tissue. Healthy fats, especially omega-3 fats, because the brain is largely made up of fat, and those fats influence focus, learning, and inflammation. And they need fiber-rich foods because that helps your digestion and microbiome, and they need colorful plant foods with polyphenols because that also helps your microbiome. And the microbiome you build in your childhood shapes your immune system for your life, because that's where about 60% of your...
Starting point is 00:04:33 immune system is. Now, where I encourage parents to focus most is on blood sugar stability. Many kids are starting their day with sugar. Sugar for breakfast. Desert for breakfast. They have cereal, they have toast, they have muffins, they have juice. Refined carbs and sugar, it's dessert for breakfast. And that sets them up for a roller coaster, spikes of sugar, crashes, irritability, cravings, they can't focus, concentrate in school, they have behavior issues. It's from their diet. Instead, for breakfast, think protein. and fat and fiber at breakfast. Eggs and fruit, Greek yogurt and berries,
Starting point is 00:05:08 a smoothie with protein, maybe some nut, butter, and greens. When your blood sugar is stable, everything works better. Your mood, your focus, your behavior, your immune resilience is better. So rather than obsessing over every ingredient, start with the simple question,
Starting point is 00:05:22 does this meal contain protein, healthy fat, and fiber? If the answer is yes, you're building a strong foundation. If not, better fix it. And from there, you know, we can layer in all the details. Where should parents focus?
Starting point is 00:05:34 Okay, there's five anchors here that I want to talk about. First is protein at every meal. Eggs, chicken, grass-fed beef, beans if you tolerate those, healthy fats, olive oil, avocados, nuts, seeds, omega-3 rich fish, small fish. Three, colorful plants with lots of polyphenols, and also from the plants you're going to get fiber, which feeds the microbiome and helps support the immune system. Four, reduce, and I don't even like to say reduce, I don't think anybody should be eating ultra-processed food.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Here's why. It's not food. technically is not food. If you look up the definition of food in the dictionary, it's something that supports the health and nourishment and growth of an organism. This does the opposite. These foods that are frankin foods actually destroy your health.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So they're technically not even food. So you shouldn't eat them. Now, that doesn't mean you can have sugar or flour sometimes. It's fine. Like, you can enjoy life. But if it's some weird factory-made science project, don't eat it. Make the cookies at home. Okay?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Number five, and this is a big one, stabilize your blood sugar. You want to really reduce the starch and sugar, eat protein, fat, and fiber, all that will stabilize your blood sugar. Next big question is, do kids need supplements? Now, let's talk about supplements, because this is one of the most common questions we get. Do kids actually need them? The first principle is always food first. A nutrient-dense, whole-food diet, it should be the foundation. Supplements are called supplements for a reason. They're supplementing your diet. They're not replacing. it. They're meant to fill the gaps, not replace real food. And that said, we have to be honest about
Starting point is 00:07:07 the world we're living. Soils are depleted from organic matter. The plants can't get the minerals they need in there. The broccoli today is half as nutritious as it was 50 years ago. Many kids, unfortunately, are picky eaters. Fish intake is low. Sun exposure is inconsistent from the vitamin D. You know, ultra-processed foods are just crowding out nutrient-intense options. In fact, what's really surprising to most people is the most obese people in America are the most malnourished. If you actually measure their vitamin and mineral levels, they're in the toilet because they're eating ultra-processed food. They're getting bigger, but they're nutrient depleted. So they're overfed and undernourished. So while I don't believe every child needs a cabinet full of supplements,
Starting point is 00:07:47 a lot of kids can benefit from targeted support. And here's the most common gaps I see. Vitamin D, really important. I mean, unless you're running around naked south of Atlanta for 20 minutes every day, you know, you're going to be vitamin D nutrition because it's just something that we need to get from sunlight and most of us don't get enough sunlight. Something you can get it from little mushrooms, some herring, but it's very low doses. Next one is omega-3s. These are really important. This is so critical for brain development and for mood.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And Americans typically don't eat that much fish, and particularly the fish they eat. It doesn't have a lot of omega-3s. I know we need sardines and herring and mackerel and anchovies and like small wild salmon. That's fine, but most people are not eating that. Now, magnesium, also important. A lot of kids are anxious, irritable.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Low magnesium is common from, you know, lots of things to stress from sodas, from sugar, from poor diet. Zinc also really important for immune function for kids, iron, especially in girls. Now, you don't have to give all these things, but you have to personalize, you have to measure, you have to test, so know what's going on. I mean, that's why it functioned health, we test everything, so we know what's going on, and we're going to soon have a pediatric panel, but it's important to know because a lot of kids are very deficient.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And I see this, like, because we see kids with ADD and all these behavioral issues, And these kids are just malnourished and you fix their biochemistry and they get better and their brain gets better and their move gets better. I mean, the first ever paper on essentially on functional medicine was by Linus Pauling, winner of two Nobel Prizes who wrote orthomolecular psychiatry in science, in the science journal in 1969 talking about how to use nutrients to actually optimize neurotransmitter and mood and brain function in psychiatric diseases. So this is quite an important area.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And then you also have to consider other things when you're deciding about your kid supplements, what's their diet like, what are their symptoms, what are their growth patterns? Of course, you don't want a megadose more is not better. The goal is just to correct the deficiencies, not to overwhelm a child's system. Now, I also consider probiotics, and unfortunately, most of us do need them because we've all taken antibiotics. You know, I often do lectures and see rooms full of people, a thousand people. I say, who here has never taken antibiotic?
Starting point is 00:09:52 And like, nobody will raise their hand, or one person will raise their hand. Because we're all been given antibiotics, and they destroy your microcontracts. or biome. And if kids take antibiotics, it really affects them. If kids have eczema, allergies, gut issues, you know, they do need probiotics, especially if they're born by C-section. So the key message is supplements are tools, they're helpful, but they're not replacements. They work best when they're supporting a strong dietary foundation, not really compensating for a consistently crappy ultra-process diet. If we focus on real food first and then we fill the gaps with nutrients strategically as needed. We're setting these kids up for resilience, not being dependent on
Starting point is 00:10:31 these things for her whole life. All right, how do you build this strong immune system in kids? That's another question we got. It's an important one. I want to start with a subtle but powerful shift in language. We don't, quote, boost the immune system. We regulated. An overactive immune system is not necessarily good. It can lead to allergies, eczema, asthma, autoimmune diseases. An underactive immune system, well, you can get frequent infections, cancer. What we want is balance, resilience, adaptability. And that resilience starts very early. That starts with your gut health, you know, even how you're born in C-section, whether your mom had antibiotics, all that's important. So you need fiber, colorful plants, try not to use antibiotics if you can. Sometimes you obviously
Starting point is 00:11:11 need them, but be careful. They're giving out like candy sometimes by pediatricians. Also, sleep. It's so important for immune regulation and your immune system can't work. Kids also need outdoor time and exposure to microbes. You know, when you look at that, you know, when you look at that, kids who were born on farms, they have far better immune systems. They don't get allergies. They don't get eczema. They don't get asthma. They don't get autoimmune diseases because they're basically living in the dirt and their immune systems are learning how to regulate in an environment as opposed to these sterile environments we all grew up in. And there's a whole, you know, school of thought and medicine called the hygiene hypothesis about this. And then, of course,
Starting point is 00:11:46 keeping your blood sugar stable is really important. And that really helps these kids a lot with their overall immune system because, you know, too much sugar is an immune suppressant. When you think about it, people don't realize that, but it actually does. If you give people sugar, their immune system is suppressed and it doesn't work as well to fight things. If kids' immune systems are not working well, then they're going to get all kinds of problems, like eczema, asthma, and allergies. And you can usually avoid that by setting them upright with food and the right nutrients and probiotics. So when you zoom out, building a strong immune system isn't about this one superfood or supplement.
Starting point is 00:12:18 It's about creating a healthy internal environment that supports balance. And the beautiful thing about kids is their systems are incredibly. resilient and adaptable. And small changes actually produce meaningful big shifts for these kids. More whole foods, better sleep routines, more outdoor play. Simple, these are simple habits, but they compound over the years. And that's how you build a resilient immune system, not trying to fight every germ by strengthening, but by strengthening the terrain. Now, when I was a kid, I spent every summer on a ranch. And I was just in the horse stalls, in the manure, sleeping outside, in the dirt. And I don't have any allergies. And I don't have any ammunition.
Starting point is 00:12:54 related to that. So I think there's something to that. I obviously, you know, not everybody can do that, but it's important to get out and not be over hygienic. Next big question is, how do you get your kids off to stuff that they're addicted to without World War III? Right. How do you transition kids off processed foods without a huge battle? Let's talk about the part that feels the hardest for most parents. How do you do this without, you know, a big, this family disruption? At first, I want to normalize something. If your kid loves crackers, packaged snacks, sugary cereals, It's not a parenting failure. These foods are engineered to be hyper palatable.
Starting point is 00:13:28 They're pre-salivated. They're designed by craving experts and food scientists to light up the reward centers in the brain. They override your body's natural satiety signals. That means your biology of how you feel full. You're not competing with willpower here. You're competing with basically evil food scientists. And I'm using the word evil here because it's deliberate. And I know about things going on back in the food industry that are happening
Starting point is 00:13:50 that deliberately are put in foods to addict people, just like the cigarette companies increase the nicotine content of tobacco to get them addicted. They knew this and the food industry knows this. It's not your fault, okay? It's about how do you deal with this? What's the strategy? The first principle is don't try to change everything at night. If you suddenly remove every familiar food from the house, you're likely going to get resistance
Starting point is 00:14:13 and, you know, understandably so. Although in my house, there's only two things on the menu. Take it or leave it. Okay, take it or leave it. There was no, there was no menu at my house. Instead, you know, I want you to think in terms of how you create upgrades for your kids, not deprivation, but just swaps, substitutions, like swap sugary cereal for a higher protein breakfast. Replace packaged snack bars with maybe apple slices and nut butter. Trade soda for sparkling water with little fruit juice in it.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Small shifts feel manageable. Small shifts add up. Okay. Second, control the environment more than you control the child. You can't out-parent the pantry. You have to make your home a safe zone. If ultra-processed snacks are consistently available and visible, kids are going to gravitate toward them.
Starting point is 00:14:57 That's human biology. If there's ice cream in the fridge, and sometimes my wife buys like five pints of ice cream, I have no idea why, because she likes a lot of flavors. It's there and it's late at night. Sometimes if I'm tired or whatever, stress, I will do it. So I try not to keep that in the house. It's just human biology.
Starting point is 00:15:15 But if the default options are whole food snacks, then that becomes the norm. The only thing you can eat is something's healthy. Well, that's all you're going to eat. The third thing you want to do is involve the kids, right? Take him to the grocery store. Let them pick out a new fruit or a vegetable to try. Get them involved in cooking.
Starting point is 00:15:30 You know, when the kids participate, they're just more likely to eat what they help create. Fourth thing you should remember is avoid labeling foods as good or bad, right? It can kind of backfire. It can create shame, rebellion. Use language like everyday foods and sometimes foods. Foods that help grow strong and foods that we can maybe enjoy occasionally. And here is something most parents don't realize.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Taste buds adapt. When kids reduce sugar and ultra-possous foods, their palate recalibrates often in a few days, sometimes as long as 10 to 14 days. Suddenly, fruit tastes sweeter. I mean, I do this all the time. I take people on retreats. I take away all the sugar, all the flour, all the starch for five days, seven days. And then the last night, I gave them a quote dessert, which is blueberries or chia seed pudding
Starting point is 00:16:10 with blueberries or something with no sugar. And they're like, man, this is so sweet. That's what happens. When you get used to things like that, then vegetables taste better, whole foods are more satisfying. You have to kind of sometimes get through a transition window, but just realize you have to aim for progress, not perfection. If your child eats real whole foods most of time, a cupcake at a birthday party is not going to kill them or undo that. And what shapes long-term health is the pattern, is the repeated daily habits, not just an exception of, you know, having a piece of pizza once or a
Starting point is 00:16:39 while. So instead of trying to win every battle, just focus on building a new normal and make your home a safe zone. Because when real food becomes a default, then everything gets easier. Nobody wakes up one. Nobody wakes up one day with a chronic disease. It doesn't work that way. It builds quietly over months and years and can show up as inflammation that never quite goes away, an immune system that never calms down, vitamin D declining year after year. These aren't random numbers, they're patterns, and they show up in your labs long before they show up in your life. I've been practicing medicine for 40 years, and the patients I've seen avoid serious outcomes are not the ones who get lucky. They're the ones who had data early enough to act on it.
Starting point is 00:17:20 The problem is most people get a basic panel once here, maybe, and they're told everything looks okay, but okay is not ideal. Spring is when your immune system is already under pressure from pollen and stress, and it's exactly the right moment to know where you actually stand. Function gives you access to over 160 lab tests annually so you can see what's going on inside your body.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Go to functionhealth.com slash mark, and if you're one of the first 1,000 people this week, use the code Mark 2026 for a $50 credit toward your $365 a year membership. That's Functionhealth.com slash mark and use the code Mark 2026 today. Next question we got was, what are some kid-friendly, clean snack ideas, right?
Starting point is 00:18:05 Once you start shifting the environment and upgrading options, the next question people ask is, okay, well, I want to actually give them, right? Because snacks are where things tend to fall apart. Breakfast could be structured, dinner's usually planned out, but snacks, especially after school or between activities or on the go, well, that's often where ultra-processed foods sneak back in. So here's a quick, practical tip for some things you can have on hand all the time. And you can have a cooler in your car. That's what I have
Starting point is 00:18:31 done when my kids were little. And you have apple slices and almond butter. You can have hard-boiled eggs. You can have grass-fed beef sticks or I like Maui-Nui. They're great. They're like Benison sticks with clean ingredients. You have cheese seed pudding, unsweetened yogurt with berries. You can just have a lot of nice things, homemade trail mix with lots of nuts, seeds, frozen banana bites, kind of like ice cream, smoothies with protein and lots of healthy fats. You can make a strawberry smoothie with some weight protein. There's all kinds of ways to do it to kind of trick the kids and eating yummy stuff. But you always want to pair any carbohydrate you're eating with protein and fat and fiber
Starting point is 00:19:05 because that stabilizes the blood sugar. It prevents these crashes. And it keeps the kids feeling full longer. What about school and school food? And how do you deal with that? Because even if you get everything right at home, well, there's a whole other environment parents are thinking about it's constantly school.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And I hear this all the time. Well, I can control breakfast and dinner, but what about lunch? What about what's being served every single day at school? That's a real concern because for many kids, school meals make up a big portion of their daily calories. And in many districts, those meals are still heavily reliant on ultra-processed food.
Starting point is 00:19:38 In fact, in most districts, and they have refined grains and added sugars, industrial ingredients. The new dietary guidelines are going to help shift that, because they have to follow the guideline around getting rid of highly processed food, so let's see what happens, but that should be coming down the pike. But what can you do? Well, first, I want you to shift out of this feeling of helplessness.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Change doesn't usually start at the federal level. It starts locally, parents, teachers, community members who care enough to ask better questions. So start by asking for transparency. What are the ingredients in the kids' food? Where is it sourced from? How much of it is cooked from scratch or they only have a microwave and a deep fry there and they just get shipped in in plastic containers with microplastics. Find out what's going on.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Join a wellness committee at school. Connect with other parents. Partner with the administrators of the school instead of positioning yourself as the adversary, help them. There's a great nonprofit called Eat Real. It helps kids by transitioning a lot of school lunch programs to healthier whole foods and doing it an affordable level within the school lunch budget. And the whole roadmaps for this around the country.
Starting point is 00:20:37 There are also incredible examples of districts that have transformed their food programs. They've already done it. They move towards scratch cooking. They use real ingredients. They use local sourcing. So if you haven't already listened to this podcast I did with Nora Literre, it's about this nonprofit eat real. It's a powerful reminder that systems can change when communities engage.
Starting point is 00:20:56 So how do you expect to actually raise a generation of children that's going to be helping America stay a vibrant, successful country? I mean, it's like, it's highly concerning to me. Yeah, it's how do we make our kids feel better today and then improve their short-term help outcomes and then improve their long-term health and happiness. Yeah, I mean, investing in kids is investing in the future of our country. I mean, it's like, it's such a no-brainer, right? Definitely how we stop disease before it starts.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And it's the, it is the top solution. Like, real food to kids is the best way to create health for generations to come. And quickly, I think that you and I both agree, and I think we've talked about this. Like, what to me is so powerful and what I love about a lot of the work that you do across so many different avenues is, you know, humans can regenerate quickly. That's what gives me help is like Dr. Lustick did a study that showed that in 10 days, just removing added sugar, even leaving starch, kids' metabolic health improved. Like we can, we, if, are you, I did once, your 10-day, 10-day detox.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And then I had, and then you and I worked on a seven-day national sugar challenge together. And my family, I had my family do it, the whole house. and I have a multi-generational house, so. And the whole family did it. And we didn't just do seven days. We extended it to 10 because of that research. And then we actually did the whole month, no added our free sugar, life changing for our family,
Starting point is 00:22:22 like game changing. What happened? The grandparents lost weight and felt better. The, we changed this. We got, we had sourcing agreements pretty much at the house level where we're like, okay, it's hidden in all these, these sauces we didn't know, and let's just not have it in the house. And like, just don't bring it in.
Starting point is 00:22:38 and it's not going to go on the plate. It changed. It just made us all so aligned. And it made everyone feel better and be more vibrant and it made blueberries taste sweeter. It was life-changing. But I think that's a thing is like, we can change our children's health so fast. If you change with the you, you feel, you start to feel better when you eat real food that day. And then you start to change your metabolic health in 10 days.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And you can, I mean, you've seen probably so many patients reverse the pre-diabetes, reverse the diabetes. And one in three kids are pre-diabetic. If we commit to this as a country, like, Americans get things done. And like, if we actually say we're going to write this ship and change the direction and we're going to take our health back into our hands and we're going to advocate that the government aggressively make changes and quickly make changes, which there's momentum across the aisle there to do it. There's an appetite, food pun intended for that.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And then we can do it. And we can make change quickly and we can regenerate. It's a story of hope to me. And here's a bigger picture. Even if you can control every meal your child eats at school, what you do at home matters enormously. Metabolic resilience is built over time. Immune strength is built over time. So focus on what you can influence. And then if you feel called to it, get involved locally because when parents advocate together, real change can happen. The next big question was about eczema and the diet. What's the connection? There is a big connection. We got a lot of questions about eczema. It's a big problem for kids. honestly, this is an area that drives me crazy because it's such an easy fix with functional
Starting point is 00:24:08 medicine. And I was watching TV the other night. It was a commercial for this drug that cost $90,000 a year for eczema. And I'm like, this is just ridiculous. It's such an important topic because, you know, the problem is eczema is seen as a skin problem. So dermatologists slathered lotions, potions, and all kinds of crap on their creams and moisturizers, sterid this and serried that. That's just putting a band-aid on it. It's not the problem. The problem isn't from the outside in, it's from the inside out. And they can help give you relief, and obviously it can be important and necessary sometimes,
Starting point is 00:24:41 but they're not addressing the root cause, they're addressing the symptom. Eczema is frequently an immune system that's dysfunction that shows up on your skin. The skin is not separate from your immune system. It's actually one of our largest immune organs. And in many kids, eczema reflects underlying immune dysregulation, which often traces back to the gut.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Now, remember, most of the most of the immune, most of the immune system lives in the gut, it's about 60%. So when the gut lining is inflamed, when it's compromised, when you have a leaky gut, when the microbiome is in balance, when there's chronic low-grade inflammation, the immune system becomes hyperactive because your food proteins and your bacterial toxins
Starting point is 00:25:19 are leaking literally across the lining of your gut and your immune system's right there and it starts to go, hey, this is bad, I'm going to do something. And one of the things that it can do is it shows up as eczema. It shows up as a real problem. There's other things that can happen when your guts not healthy, food sensitivities, allergies, asthma.
Starting point is 00:25:38 These are common things that kids get, and they're not things that are inevitable. They're not a sign of some design flaw in human biology. It's because something's out of balance. And this is often referred to as atopic disease or the atopic march where the immune system imbalance goes, you know, from little eczema in infancy to allergies, to asthma, even autoimmune disease later on. It's not an uncommon story. So when we think about eczema from a functional medicine perspective, we ask like, what's driving this immune activation?
Starting point is 00:26:05 Well, there's a lot of contributors, number one being gut issues, leaky gut, gut dysbiosis, overgrowth of bad bugs, too much yeast. Fungal overgrowth is a big cause of eczema. Food sensitivities are a big one that can often drive things. You know, when you have a leaky gut, you start reacting to proteins like gluten or dairy. Dairy is a big factor in asthma. And I think if you have dairy, I literally just talked to a mother who is a friend and she had a kid who has a dad, head-to-egyma, it's just absolutely miserable. And, you know, seeing all the dermatologists, the doctors, they have lots of resources,
Starting point is 00:26:36 they were just, it was kind of miserable. And I said, well, you know, I don't really know what's going on with this kid particularly, but just try to stop dairy's to what happens. I saw her at a dinner and the night, she said, yeah, 80% of his exima went away just from that one intervention. Ultra-processed foods are also full of things that can trigger immune dysfunction. A lot of the dyes can be very immunogenic. So I think you'd be very careful by getting rid of that.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Your blood sugar's unstable. that stresses your immune system. If you're deficient of nutrients like zinc, omega-3s, vitamin D, vitamin A, all these can affect your immune system. Now, this isn't a one-size-fits-all solution. Not every kid with eczema has the same trigger. Examine is a symptom, right? One person can be from gluten, another from dairy, another from yeast overgrowth, another from yeast over-mellers. I had a case of that once were just heavy metals in the system that's causing constant gut issues and yeast overgrowth and leaky gut. It can be from an imbalance in any one of those things or nutritional deficiencies. There's some short-term strategies that can really help. First, get rid of all
Starting point is 00:27:30 the junk. No more ultra-processed foods. Get rid of the chemicals in the food. Get rid of Franken foods. It ain't food anyway. Second, just do a full 100% dairy removal for three weeks. And I would probably add gluten to that because that's another big one that's a sleeper. Increase omega-3 intake. You know, kids can take fish oil. There's liquid fish oils. Get your gut reset. You know, that's a whole project with functional medicine, but it's what call it the 5R program. It's really about removing the bad stuff, taking probiotics, prebiotics, and repairative nutrients for the gut. But probiotics can be very helpful. Sugar, you have to cut way down, flour, way down, all that really drives used to overgrowth.
Starting point is 00:28:06 So the goal isn't just actually better skin. It's restoring your immune system function and balance because when your immune system is common internally, the skin just, you know, gets better. It's really easy. All right, one more reminder. If your kid needs a topical medication in the short run, that's okay. A little topical steroids. It's not going to kill them.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Stay away from the strong stuff. But if the eczema keeps coming back or it's persistent, you've got to look deeper. The skin's often you're telling something about your internal terrain. Now, it can also be from chemicals on the outside, and that can be, you know, toxins or chemicals or different weird ingredients in lotions or creams or, you know, things kids are exposed to you.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But I think, you know, that often is a result of an overactive immune system in the gut, too. So you've got to deal with both things. Now, when you address the root causes, you're not really just managing the flares. you're actually building this long-term resilience. Now let's shift gears a bit and move into our rapid-fire question round, where I'm going to tackle some of your most common, quick-hit questions with short, clear answers.
Starting point is 00:29:04 So let's do it. Are seed oil is bad for kids? Oh, boy, that's a good one. I use seed oils and bean oils, but they have to be from the right sources. If they're in small amounts and you're using them as part of cooking in your kitchen, no problem. You know, like I use sesame oil,
Starting point is 00:29:22 night I was stir frying some chicken. That's fine. That's a seed oil. If it's expeller pressed, cold pressed, if it's not industrially produced, I think it's okay. The problem is the volume of these refined industrial oils that are highly processed, deodorized, that are often oxidized, that are in all the ultra-processed foods. They're in all the junk. So that's what I worry about. All the deep friars, all that stuff. That's the problem. Next question. Is organic necessary? I mean, look, your kids are often toxic waste dumps. So the less toxins you can put in the better, they're more sensitive than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:30:01 They accumulate things more and faster than anybody else because they're just little smaller creatures, exposed to the same volume of stuff. So when you can eat organic. And I encourage to use the dirty dozen clean 15 guide from the environmental working group. That's eWG.org. That'll give you a good idea of actually which are the,
Starting point is 00:30:18 like, for example, strawberries. You should never have those if they're not organic, but if you want to have like a banana, it's not organic, it's not a big deal. All right. What about the best milk alternative? Well, I personally am very suspicious of a lot of these nut milks because they have thickeners, they have emulsifiers, they have sugar, they have additives. I really am concerned that these are often harmful foods masquerading as health food.
Starting point is 00:30:42 However, there are a few companies that just have simple ingredients. I like Elmhurst. It's just basically water and the nuts. Like there's cashew milk, there's almond milk. You know, there's walnut milk, there's hazelnut milk, and they're just made from the nuts and water and maybe a little salt. So I really encourage to use better brands. I don't have any relationship to that brand, but it's the one that I personally like because I see the other ones having so many problems. Okay, here's another big question. Thoughts on plant-based diets for kids, being a vegan
Starting point is 00:31:10 as a kid, in some countries, it's illegal. They take the kids away from the parents. It can be done, but it's risky and you have to make sure these kids are getting enough of the nutrients. They're going to need B12. They're going to need iodine. They're going to need vitamin D. They're going to need omega-3 fats. They're probably going to need more zinc. There's a whole bunch of nutrients that these kids are not getting vitamin A that are so important for their growth and development and they need adequate protein. And, you know, it's just harder on a plant-based diet. So I think, you know, plant-rich diets, hell yes. And, you know, Should most of your dyes be plants? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:50 But plant only, I think, or vegan dyes are problematic. And I think if you look at the literature, it's quite concerning. All right. Should kids fast? Definitely not. Are food dyes harmful? Some, yes. And there's, for example, red dye.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Many of these dyes have been eliminated in other countries, tartrazine, a yellow dye. There are things that cause allergic disorders and other issues. And many of these are just not even allowed in other countries. What about protein powdered for teens? Listen, if you want to have weight protein, no problem. There's certain other plant proteins that are made from different kinds of nuts or seeds or different things are fine. I would stay away from like highly processed industrialized protein powders that are out there with tons of sugar and added ingredients and artificial sweeteners and there's a lot of crap out there. Applesauce, uh, yoghats and pouches.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I mean, listen, I worry about the pouch more than the apple sauce or the yogurt, but if you're sweetened, definitely not. If you want to make homemade apples sauce, great. Put in a glass container. If you want to, you know, have yogurt for your kids, give real yogurt that's not, you know, stored in these weird plastic pouches full of sugar. Next question is, how much sugar is too much? Well, the dose makes the poison a little bit's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's part of, you know, after meal, if you want to have a dessert or cookie, no problem. It's just the volume kids are having. The average kid has 34 teaspoons of sugar a day. It leads to obesity, diabetes, the host of metabolic. issues, it's just the volume we're having and it's hidden in everything from ketchup to salad dressing. Should kids take a multibitamin? I think so. Just given the stress of modern life, the depletions we have, the nutrient deficiencies, I looked at our data from function health the other day and I was shocked to see that in our population, which I think people who are using
Starting point is 00:33:38 function are more health forward, 90% had some nutritional deficiency on testing, 90%, which was shocking to me. As we wrap it up, I want to zoom out for a sec. There's one thing I hope you take away from this conversation is this. You don't need to be fur-picked to profoundly impact your kids' health. You don't have to win every battle. You don't have to eliminate every single process food, all I wish you would. You don't have to control every school lunch or birthday party. What matters most is the habits over time, the pattern. Because kids' bodies are incredibly adaptable, their microbiomes are still forming, their metabolic systems are being programmed. So these small consistent inputs day after day shape their long-term trajectory. Real foods, stable blood sugar,
Starting point is 00:34:21 healthy fats, good sleep, outdoor play, a supportive and loving environment. These are the fundamentals that build kids life. Their immune systems, they help support mute and focus. They help reduce inflammation. And they lead the groundwork for lifelong health. And here is something really important. You, my friends, are the most powerful influence in your child's food environment. Not the marketing, not the packaging, not the cafeteria. You. You're the CEO of your household's health. In my house, there's nothing that comes in that kills you. I just don't buy it. There's no Doritos. There's no Pop-Tarts. There's no fruit loops. I don't put that stuff in the house. And I never did, even when my kids are little. That doesn't mean controlling everything perfectly. It just means
Starting point is 00:35:01 setting the tone. Now, shaping the default, creating an environment where real food is normal, movement is normal, balance is normal, play with your kids, you know, progress over perfection. Because when healthy habits become the baseline home, occasional cupcake doesn't matter. So keep sending your and remember small changes today get powerful health dividends over time for your kids for years and decades to come. Thanks for joining me for office hours. I love diving into these topics with you. Remember, you are the CEO of your own health, and every choice you make can move
Starting point is 00:35:36 you closer to healing and vitality. I want to keep these episodes as relevant and useful as possible, so tell me, what do you want to explore next? What questions are you wrestling with? What breakthroughs are you chasing? Share your ideas in the comments on social media or through the link in the show notes. I'm listening. Until next time, keep taking charge, keep asking questions, and keep showing up for your health.
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