The Dr. Hyman Show - How Fasting Can Slow Aging And Optimize Health

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

How Fasting Can Slow Aging And Optimize Health | This episode is brought to you by InsideTracker Fasting has gotten a lot of attention in recent years and for good reason. In addition to supporting better aging, fasting has also been found beneficial for autoimmunity, gut issues, reducing belly fat, Alzheimer’s, and much more. While many people associate fasting with restricting eating for long periods of time, there are actually many styles with different timing, which can make fasting a much more approachable practice than you might think. And when done the right way, you won’t even feel hungry.  In this minisode, Dr. Hyman speaks with Dr. Frank Lipman and Dave Asprey about how fasting works, how to identify the type of fasting that is best for you, and special considerations around fasting for women. Dr. Frank Lipman is recognized as a vocal pioneer of integrative and Functional Medicine (or what he calls “good medicine”). Dr. Lipman is the founder of Eleven Eleven Wellness Center and the Chief Medical Officer at The Well. He is a sought-after international speaker and the bestselling author of six books—How to Be Well, The New Health Rules, Young & Slim for Life, Revive and Total Renewal—and his newest book, The New Rules of Aging Well: A Simple Program for Immune Resilience, Strength, and Vitality. Dave Asprey is the founder and Chairman of Bulletproof 360, a high-performance coffee and food company, and creator of the widely-popular Bulletproof Coffee. He is a three-time New York Times bestselling author, host of the Webby award-winning podcast Bulletproof Radio, and has been featured on the Today show, Fox News, Nightline, CNN, and dozens more. Over the last two decades Dave, the “Father of Biohacking”, has worked with world-renowned doctors, researchers, scientists, and global mavericks to uncover the latest, most innovative methods, techniques, and products for enhancing mental and physical performance.  This episode is brought to you by InsideTracker. If you’re curious about getting your own health program dialed-in to your unique needs, check out InsideTracker. Right now they’re offering Doctor’s Farmacy listeners 25% off at insidetracker.com/drhyman. Find Dr. Hyman’s full-length conversation with Dr. Frank Lipman, “The Keys To Aging Well” here: https://DrMarkHyman.lnk.to/DrFrankLipman   Find Dr. Hyman’s full-length conversation with Dave Asprey, “Fasting: Hype Or Ultimate Health Hack?” here: https://DrMarkHyman.lnk.to/DaveAsprey2

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forward slash Dr. Hyman. That's Dr. Hyman. InsideTracker.com. That's I-N-S-I-D-E-T-R-A-C-K-E-R.com slash Dr. Hyman, D-R-H-Y-M-A-N, and you'll see the discount code in your cart. Now let's get back to this week's episode of The Doctor's Pharmacy. Hi, I'm Kea Perowit, one of the producers of The Doctor's Pharmacy podcast. We know that food has an amazing ability to heal, but the timing of when we eat or abstain from eating can also have really amazing health benefits. Dr. Hyman discussed the many ways to fast and how they work to optimize health in his conversation on Aging Well with Dr. Frank Lipman.

So let's talk about this idea of time-restricted eating because it's a fact. And there are many ways to quote fast. There's what we call intermittent fasting, which is maybe not eating for a whole day or three days or a week sometimes. There's time-restricted eating, which is only eating with a certain time window. There's fasting-mimicking diets, which are eating less calories for a number of days to stimulate the same pathways. There's ketogenic diets. They all do a very similar thing. So what is the biology of how this works? We know that these things do work, looking at animal

studies, human studies in terms of improving metabolism and the longevity biomarkers. But what are we seeing in how these methods actually work? And what is the most effective? What should people be doing in order to take advantage of this new science? Right. So what they're doing, I mean, the way I explain to patients is, which I think is, I mean, they're doing a number of things, but it's triggering your body's own self-cleansing mechanisms. After you haven't been eating for a certain amount of time, 14, probably more, 16 hours, your body's self-cleansing mechanisms. After you haven't been eating for a certain amount of time, 14, probably more, 16 hours, your body's self-cleansing mechanisms kick in, which is very important with the aging process because one of the factors in aging is your body,

once again, it goes back to functional medicine. The functioning of these systems don't work as well. So the fasting actually starts putting that autophagy system into play. So I think that's probably one of the most important aspects. It also will improve mitochondrial function, which also decreases as we get older. So the consequences of fasting or what happens in your body are often the opposite of what happens as you get older. So that's why I think it's so important. Which way of fasting is best is the way that you'll do. I mean, whatever works easiest for a person is what I encourage.

And I think the easiest one for most people is to eat dinner earlier and eat breakfast later, which is what I do and what I recommend. Now, if people want to do a day of just water fasting or three days or even more, that's great. That's a little bit more complicated and most people won't do that. But if you can do that, that's fine. There's also this fasting mimicking diet where you do five days a month of very low calories and no animal protein and low carbs. And, you know, we've actually created some shakes or my health coach has some recipes for people. If they want to do it themselves, you can buy the Prolon shakes as well.

You should bring out some shake. I mean, it's a no-brainer to bring out a five-day program of it because it works. I mean, we've done it with our patients. Actually, there's no question you get the same results whether you do fasting, mimicking diet for five days, or you do intermittent fasting. We see positive results across the board with biomarkers and different types of fasting. So I don't think there's one way. I think the way is to find the way that you will do and that works easiest for your lifestyle. Yeah, you know, people

say, Dr. Hyman, what do you eat for snacks? And I'm like, I don't. I think snacking is the worst invention. Snack foods are typically really unhealthy, and they're a modern invention, and we used to not have to be eating all the time. And that's the problem. We're eating all the time. And I think just to underscore what you said about these different approaches to time-restricted eating, intermittent fasting, fasting-reducing diets, is they activate a set of mechanisms in the body that improve blood sugar control,

that get rid of belly fat, that increase muscle synthesis, that build your bone density, that increase testosterone, that increase brain function and cognitive function, that improve your stem cell function, that help your immune system, and they clean up all the debris in your cells. It's called autophagy, which we're saying is sort of self-cleaning mechanisms. There's mitophagy as well that comes from the same process. So these are things that we actually can take advantage about without actually changing what we eat. Now, if you change what you eat, you get a double benefit. But these are very powerful things that

we should be paying attention to in the science. And I think you just feel better. You feel more energetic rather than being sluggish from eating food all the time. Right. And you nailed it. Thank you. You know, all those mechanisms are what actually start, you know, their function decreases as we get older. It becomes harder to keep your blood sugar under control, the muscle synthesis, all, you know, brain cognition and brain function. So fasting is like a magic pill, or eating less is a magic pill. So to me, that's, yeah, probably the most important thing you can do.

It's true. Dr. Hyman also spoke about this with fasting expert Dave Asprey. The understanding of fasting or intermittent fasting or time-restricted eating or even longer fasts, a day fast or a day fast a week or a three-day fast, they have profound effects in our biology to optimize all the pathways that lead to health and even longevity that help our energy, decrease our risk of disease, and do a whole series of different things. So, can you kind of take us down that road of what do we know about the science of this? Because it's really phenomenal. When you start to look at it, it's like, wow, you know, if you look at fasting or intermittent fasting or time-restricted eating or

bulletproof fasting or fasting-mimicking diets or ketogenic diets, they all do the same thing, which is rejuvenate your biology. It's really rejuvenative and regenerative medicine. It is so rejuvenating. What fasting does that's really cool is fasting allows you to say, okay, I'm going to teach my body to not worry so much about food. I'm going to turn off the voice in my head. And from that perspective, it frees up so much energy. And then biologically, it does something else that's magic. Because when you have enough energy, you're able to emotionally regulate better than otherwise. So you're saying, but Dave, if you fast,

you'd have less energy. But the cool thing is when you fast, the mitochondria, the little power plants in your cells, the ones that can't make it for four hours without food or for 16 hours or 18 hours, however long you're fasting, the body goes, wait a minute, I guess I should go to the trouble of getting rid of the weak mitochondria and replacing them with strong ones. And so now you've given yourself a power upgrade because now you can generate more power when you do eat. So, okay, number one, let's fix our mitochondria with fasting. Number two, your pancreas and to a certain extent, your liver makes enzymes and their job is to break down proteins and other food items that you eat. It's also enzymes job

to go into the body and fix stuff. So you can only make so many enzymes per day. It's the maximum enzyme production capacity of the body. Well, what if, because you're not eating protein, you're not eating carbs during the fast. What if the pancreas is available to make enzymes for healing the body instead of for digesting food. It will do that. And those two things work really well for aging. And not a lot of people are talking about supplementation during fasting because some supplements break fasting. One of the most important enzymes that I think people should be taking when they fast to accelerate this breakdown of old tissues in the body, break up scar tissue, adhesions is proteolytic enzymes. And the most common one is called serrapeptase.

A lot of people who fast also miss out on electrolytes. Good old fashioned salt is something that's important, especially in the morning. When you first wake up, some sea salt or Himalayan salt is a good idea, as well as magnesium and potassium. So when you add these precious minerals in during a fast, you actually feel much better and you're keeping your body more balanced. Yeah, it's so true. I literally take electrolytes every day. I have a little bottle of a liquid electrolytes and I just squirt it into the water I drink. I think for interest, cellular hydration, it's a really important strategy that most people don't use. And I think I'm a big fan of that in terms of

really dealing with the fundamental hydration status of the body that makes everything else work better. One of the things I do is I drink mineral water, which has a substantial amount of electrolytes in it. There's calcium, magnesium, potassium, there's probably less sodium in it, but I get plenty of sodium in my food. And it's funny when you're fasting or when you're not fasting, a little bit of salt, when you first wake up, takes the load off your adrenal glands. And when you're fasting, it is a state of stress on the body. And it's not a bad stress unless you're already really stressed. In which case I tell you, maybe you want not to fast. If you've got a bad night's sleep, you're jet lagged. It's okay. Have some breakfast, just have some protein and some fat

and breakfast. Don't have a lot of carbs and you're going to, you're going to feel better. Are there some people who shouldn't really be doing this? That it's too much for their system? There's a whole chapter for women in Fast This Way. That's really important because Mark, you and I know this, we probably don't say it enough. Most of the studies that you'll find on PubMed, they were done on young white men. And so during certain times in your cycle, you know, it's okay to have breakfast. You already have enough biological stress. So you want to do your intermittent fasting on days when you're in pretty good shape. You do it three days a week. Is that good? I think for women,

especially women who have a meaningful amount to lose, or if they are in perimenopause, especially try it three days a week or five days a week, but have breakfast a few times and don't have, you know, a bowl of carby cereal, but have some eggs and, you know, salmon or whatever you like for breakfast. What you're going to find there is that if you do intermittent fasting every single day and your metabolism isn't up for it, it's too much of a stress. And the idea of stress is turn stress on, recover, turn stress on, recover. But if you just turn stress on and stay that way, after about six weeks, what you'll find

is that women hit the wall first and their thyroid goes off and their sex hormones go off. So their cycle becomes irregular. They don't feel as good. And their sleep quality goes down first. Guys take another couple of weeks on that. if they're living a normal, stressful life. Like, wait a minute, what happened? After you're used to it, after you've become trained on this, you can fast pretty much

every morning if you want to. So I want to sort of dig in a little geeky science here with you, because I think that most people don't realize that all these strategies have a reason that we were designed and exquisitely adapted to starvation. We weren't designed to deal with the amount of abundant food supply we have now, which is about 700 plus calories more a day than we had per person 50 years ago. Right. You've got to eat in such a way that you don't have cravings and then fasting becomes painless. And my kids have learned this. You know, my daughter, when she was 10, she said, Daddy,

we get to school and right away they start trying to make us have a snack. Don't the other kids have breakfast? I'm not hungry until lunch. And like she literally asked me that and she was just really genuinely curious. And it was so cute, but it was also so sad. And so the idea is that when you do that, all these things happen. You increase your cognitive function because you want to be able to find the next meal. So your mental alertness and acuity improves. Your metabolism increases the fat burning so you can burn off your fat stores. You lose belly fat. You increase muscle mass. You increase bone density. You reduce inflammation. you activate your antioxidant enzymes, you increase stem cell production. So you literally go into a full on rehab, repair and remodel.

It's like getting your old car and taking it to the body shop and cleaning out all the junk and putting in new parts. Essentially what happens when you do this kind of eating. One important caveat of fasting is that when you do eat, you still need to eat well. Fasting and then binging on ice cream and French fries is not gonna get you anywhere. Eating real whole foods, tons of non-starchy colorful veggies,

healthy fats and high quality protein is an amazing compliment to any fasting routine. Autoimmunity, gut issues, Alzheimer's and aging have all been found to benefit from the right kind of fasting. But like anything else, it's important to listen to your body and find what works for you. It's also important to note that fasting does not work for everyone. For example, those with a history of eating disorders or those who are pregnant or breastfeeding. If you are interested in incorporating

fasting into your health routine, talk to your health practitioner to decide if it's right for you. If you'd like to learn more about any of the topics you heard in today's episode, I encourage you to check out Dr. Hyman's full-length conversations with Dr. Frank Lippman and Dave Asprey. If you have people in your life who could benefit from this information, please consider sharing this episode with your community. We need each other to create a healthier us. Until next time, thanks for tuning in. Hi, everyone. I hope you enjoyed this week's episode.

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