The Dr. Hyman Show - How To Eat Well For Less Money
Episode Date: September 8, 2023This episode is brought to you by Rupa Health, Joovv, and Super Simple Grassfed Protein. The food industry wants us to believe that cooking is difficult, time-consuming, inconvenient, and expensive. A...nd knowing we all have busy lives, fast food manufacturers and grocers lure us into convenient, heavily processed meals that take a toll on our waistline, our overall health, and, believe it or not, our budget. Today, over 50 percent of meals are consumed outside the home. We’ve raised several generations of Americans who don’t know how to cook. And it’s killing us. In today’s episode of my series I’m calling Health Bites, I discuss how to reconnect with your kitchen and just how inexpensive eating healthy and preparing your own food can be. This episode is brought to you by Rupa Health, Joovv, and Super Simple Grassfed Protein. Access more than 3,000 specialty lab tests with Rupa Health. You can check out a free, live demo with a Q&A or create an account at RupaHealth.com today. For a limited time, get an exclusive discount on Joovv’s Generation 3.0 devices (some exclusions apply). Go to Joovv.com/farmacy and use the code FARMACY. Right now, you can get 10% off Super Simple Grassfed Protein by heading to drhyman.com/protein and using code protein10. Here are more details from our interview (audio version / Apple Subscriber version): Challenges to eating healthy (2:58 / 1:28) The expensive cost of cheap food (9:26 / 7:18) Eating healthy for less (12:35 / 9:50) Dispelling common “healthy eating on a budget” myths (14:58 / 12:10) Strategies for eating well on a budget (17:08 / 14:58) Mentioned in this episode Environmental Working Group (EWG)’s Good Food on a Tight Budget EWG’s Dirty Dozen List Thrive Market
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Most meals now, 50% or more, are eaten outside the home.
And my goal really is to help you reconnect with your kitchen
and learn how you can cook in a way that's healthy and inexpensive and delicious.
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with an F, a place for conversations that matter. And today we're doing a special version of our
Doctor's Pharmacy podcast called Health Bites, which are little bites of health information that
can help you live a longer, better life because taking small steps makes a big difference over time. Let's talk about an interesting topic today, which I think is an obstacle in people's mind
that isn't actually an obstacle to being healthy, which is how to eat well for less.
Most of us have been taught, and I would say taught or maybe brainwashed by the food industry that it's difficult,
time-consuming, and expensive to eat healthy.
There may even be elitist, but I'm going to tell you right now that is just a bunch of baloney.
In fact, it's as cheap as baloney because the basic idea here is that we can eat well for less
if we know what we're doing, if we have a little
guidance and a little planning. And I think we see some of the challenges we face around eating
health in this country because we're flooded with easy to eat, seemingly inexpensive, highly
processed, quote, convenience foods, which are not that convenient when you get sick.
And it's hard because our lives are full. We're working hard. We have less time than we did.
We're struggling to make enough money. Inflation is going up. And what happens is that this is all taken advantage of by the food industry. I mean, that whole thing with McDonald's, right? You deserve a break today, right? That message that convenience is king was a deliberate strategy by the food
industry to get us to eat more of their junk and processed food. And this happened in the 60s and
it really worked. Basically, Americans have been disenfranchised from their kitchens.
The food industry has basically intersected themselves in the kitchen. I don't know if you remember Betty Crocker, but she wasn't a real person.
She was a construct of the food industry that allowed them to create a recipe book,
which my mother had, I remember, where most of the recipes had some type of processed food,
add Velveeta cheese, put in a thing of Ritz crackers, a can of Campbell's cream of mushroom
soup, or whatever it was in your casserole.
And all of that was a way to insinuate processed food into the American kitchen,
and it worked.
And now most Americans don't know how to cook.
They don't understand how to even chop a vegetable or peel garlic or do anything.
And it's a skill thing.
So it's an education skill.
And I think we've got rid of home ec and schools anymore. Kids don't know anything. And
it's taking a huge toll on us. We are seeing increasing rates of obesity, diabetes. The
processed food is killing us. It's the number one killer on the planet. And it's why we basically
see six out of 10 Americans with a chronic disease. 93% of us are metabolically unhealthy.
So given our lives being
busy and, you know, all the temptations of all this food carnival that we're in, it seems easier
to, you know, eat all that stuff and just cook ourselves. But, you know, we do have to deal with
the reality of what happens to us when we eat that crap. And yes, we have a lot of demands. We have
our to-do lists and our demanding jobs
and our kids' schedule.
And maybe we don't know how to cook
or maybe we don't know how to chop this
or maybe we never were taught anything.
And cooking seems to just kind of go to the bottom
of the pile when it comes to things
that are important to us.
But it's essential.
If you don't know how to feed yourself,
if you don't know how to feed your family,
it's gonna cause serious consequences,
serious issues around health and mental health and many other things.
So we're basically now killing ourselves by not cooking.
We've raised many generations now of Americans who don't know how to cook, who don't know
their way around a kitchen, and it's literally killing us.
And the food industry is really motivated to teach us, wants us to believe that cooking
is difficult, time-consuming,
inconvenient, expensive. But the truth is, and I know this from personal experience,
I know this from my patients, I know this from working with all kinds of underserved communities,
that you can eat well for a lot less money by making simple, whole, fresh food. And it doesn't
have to be complicated. A simple dinner for a family of four with roast chickens and veggies,
a salad can cost half of what it costs to go out and eat dinner for the same family of four
at a fast food restaurant. In fact, you know, I visited a family and it's really changed my
thinking a lot. I visited a family as part of this movie Fed Up that I was in, in the South.
It was in Easley, South Carolina, one of the worst food deserts in America, where this family of five lived in a trailer on food stamps and disability.
They didn't know how to cook. Everything in their kitchen, their fridge, their cupboards
was all in a box package can, frozen, highly processed, full of millions of ingredients that
were driving them to be really sick. The father already had diabetes, was on the transplant list
and on dialysis for kidney failure. The
mother was easily over 100 pounds, had high blood pressure and all kinds of health issues. The son,
16, was about diabetic and 50% body fat. She'd be like 10% for a kid that age and was just on his
way to really a bad situation. And I showed him how to cook one simple meal from a guide called
Good Food and a Tight Budget from the Environmental Working Group, which is how to eat one simple meal from a guide called Good Food on a Tight Budget from the Environmental
Working Group, which is how to eat well for you, for your planet, and your wallet. And essentially,
I showed them how to chop vegetables. They didn't have a cutting board. They didn't have knives.
I showed them how to peel garlic, how to chop an onion, how to roast a sweet potato,
how to stir fry vegetables, how to make simple turkey chili, how to make salad dressing from
olive oil and vinegar, just simple, simple stuff. And they loved the food. They thought it was amazing. And I said,
look, you guys can do this. Here's a guide on how to eat well for less. Here's my cookbook.
And try it. And I was like, OK, I don't know what's going to happen. I sent them a knife
and cutting boards and a set of knives. And they did it. In the first week,
the mother texted me back. She said, well, we lost 18 pounds of a family. They collectively
lost 200 pounds of family in the first year. And the kid lost 50 pounds, went to work at Bojangles,
which is the only place they can work down there, gained it all back, but then ended up losing 132
pounds over time when I worked with him and actually went
to medical school because he learned about how to cook and eat real food. The father was able to
lose 45 pounds, get a new kidney. And so we see this, for me, it was a really profound experience
because I realized that we're basically just one cooking lesson away from actually having health
in America again. And we need to take back our kitchens.
We need to get the food industry out of our kitchens. Most meals now, 50% or more,
are eaten outside the home. And my goal really is to help you reconnect with your kitchen
to discover what you can create in there that's magical and delicious and learn how you can cook in a way that's healthy and inexpensive and delicious. So why is cheap food
so expensive? What do I mean by that? Well, it actually can be quite harmful because you're
eating all this food that's making you sick. And eventually you're going to be spending lots of money on doctor's visits and medications and not really eating in a way that's going to cause you to thrive.
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10. That's a one and a zero. Now people say, oh, I can't afford, you know, to eat healthy,
organics expensive, where I can't have, you know, healthy cuts of meat. And I, you know,
I think, I think we, you know, we can find cheaper sources of all these. There's all sorts
of ways we're going to talk about how to do that. But when you look at what's actually going on with
processed food, they take basically really cheap ingredients, they process them, and they mark
them up like crazy, which creates these value-priced jumbo-sized containers, three-liter
bottles of soda, and all these giant bags of
chips and huge supersized everything. And it seems like you're getting a good deal,
but actually you're getting a lot of sickness and in health. So when you look at also what you spend
your money on, how do people spend money? In Europe, they spend 20% of their income on food.
In America, it's about 9%. We don't value good food. So we do a lot of things
with our money. We buy fancy coffees. We eat a lot of convenience foods. We go out and we don't
actually learn how to manage our food budget in a way that creates health for us. So relying on
inexpensive, overly processed foods seems easy given our demanding lives and schedules, but the cost
actually is quite high to our health and to the planet and to so many things I've written about
in my book, Food Fix. So we tend to sort of eat these horrible food bombs of sugar, salt, fat,
bad fats that basically create all sorts of diseases, causes all sorts of money in doctor visits and prescription drugs.
I mean, you basically have to pay now or pay later, right?
And they make us also feel bad.
What is the price of the loss of our health,
the feeling sick and sluggish and not being able to do what we want in life
and not having energy and not being able to hike a mountain if we want.
And when we feel crummy in our lives, it goes to everything.
We get depressed, our relationships suffer, our work suffers.
We have less energy to do what we want.
So basically the value meal is anything but a value meal.
So here's the deal.
You don't have to spend all your money to eat well.
You can actually eat very well on a budget.
I've worked in, again, many underserved
communities in Cleveland and in Idaho where I was a family doctor. And I personally have learned
how to manage this because I went through periods of time where I didn't have much money at all.
So I understand the challenges of having a limited budget and limited resources and limited time or
both. So the key is you don't have to be
rich or retired to eat well and take care of yourself. You can do it on a budget. Now, I was
in medical school. I lived on $300 a month for rent and food. I lived in a group house. And we
each pitched in and we bought real food. We bought grains and beans. We had cheaper cuts of food. We
ate vegetables. We got community support agriculture.
We shopped at farmer's markets. And we were able to actually eat food for quite an expensive price
for most of us. In residency, when I ended up being in residency, I made like $27,000 a year.
That was a few years ago, but it still wasn't that much money. And I had a family of four,
me and my wife and two kids. And we cooked real food and we were able to do it. And I shopped
at Costco and I went to Trader Joe's and I had discounted foods, but I was able to do that and
cook. And these days I'm still pretty busy running around a lot. And I actually spend not that much
time cooking, but I've learned how to cook simple, delicious food. So I have the ingredients in my
house. I have things prepared.
And so it's not onerous to make a meal. I can throw a sweet potato in the oven. I can chop up
some asparagus, stir fry with some ginger or garlic, kind of quickly cook a piece of fish
or chicken or meat, and just have a meal in a very short amount of time. I can make a smoothie
for breakfast. I can have a salad for lunch with some simple ingredients. And it really, I can make, I'm quick, but I can make three meals in
30 minutes total. So it's possible to do. And I think you just need to learn what, a few good,
simple core things that you can make on a regular basis that aren't that complicated,
that are simple to make, and that are also delicious. So you really can do it. And it's not that hard. You don't have
to eat all these crazy fancy foods. You can eat simple food and have real value in your life by
creating health for you and some real simple strategies that are going to make it work.
So what are the myths around eating healthy on a budget? What are the things that we are
told that we need to kind of get over? First is as a food industry literally spends billions of dollars and is
incredibly good at convincing us that we should buy their convenience foods, which are anything
but convenient. They buy us to, they encourage us to buy a lot of processed food, sugary foods,
but it's really not true. In fact, actually, it's not true that you have to buy these foods to be
able to manage your food budget. You can actually eat healthy for less. Healthy food does not
necessarily have to cost more. In fact, there's been a lot of research looking at healthy,
real food, whole foods that you have to make yourself. Is it more expensive if you cook from
scratch? For example, you eat junk food, fast food, processed food, convenience foods, all those things can actually end up leading to, so it's an increased
cost for you in many, many ways. So what are the things purchased in supermarkets? Well, the top
four things purchased in supermarkets are sugar, caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol. So if you give up
those things, you're going to save a lot of money on your grocery bill. And those are all drugs, right? Caffeine, alcohol, sugar, nicotine. Also, you don't have to go to some fancy store
that's super marked up to find good food. You don't have to go to a gourmet shop or a health
food store or eat organic. There's lots of healthy foods right in your local supermarket.
You should shop around the outside of the aisles. You can also buy healthy food online.
ThriveMarket.com has really delicious, yummy foods
that are things that would be more packaged
but that are really good ingredients
that are at about 30% to 50% off retail price.
You can just go to ThriveMarket.com.
It's an amazing resource.
You can buy also online foods that, for online foods that are,
you know, direct, you know, cutting out the middleman, like regenerative meat and so forth.
And it doesn't have to be that much money. So also it doesn't take a lot of time to prepare.
If you know what you're doing, you just have to, you know, get these basic skills in the
kitchens like anything else. If you don't know how to do anything, it takes a long time. But if you
learn basic skills, it doesn't take that long. And it can be really delicious and simple to repair.
So what are my strategies for eating well on a budget? Well, you kind of have to first decide
you want to take control of your health and your life. And we have to kind of get the food industry
out of our kitchen. We have to basically not be beholden to what they're doing to us. And we have
to start preparing our own meals.
We have to learn how to shop within our budget and how to reclaim our health.
It's really important.
It doesn't mean you're going to have to clip coupons and, you know, make a career out of
a bargain food shopping.
But we have to deal with really the basic simple skills to do what we need to do.
So what should you do?
First is figure out what you're actually doing now. Most people don't even know what they're doing when they look at how they're shopping. So keeping a journal is important. Maybe write down
what you're eating, how you spend your money, how you spend your money on everything, what you spend
your time on, what you spend your resources on. And you'll learn, gosh, maybe I'm buying like a
$3 or $4 Starbucks coffee every day. You add that up and it's like thousands of dollars plus a year.
So you can actually find simple ways to actually increase your food budget by getting rid of
things that you don't really need that actually are maybe luxuries, but that actually take away
from your core health. Just for a week, write down everything you spend on how you spend your hour, how you spend your time, how you spend your life energy,
how do you want to spend it? Because when you change what you want to do with your life,
you can actually make a big, big difference and actually start to incorporate habits
that allow you to start doing the things that are good for you and not harming you.
Also, you can do things like buying in season. Getting things that are in season are a lot cheaper. If you want to buy a strawberry in
the middle of winter, it's more expensive than if you go when strawberry season is there.
Also, you don't have to buy everything organic. If you want to get rid of pesticides and chemicals,
there's a great environmental working group guide. It's called The Dirty Dozen. You go to
ewg.org and you can find the foods that are the most contaminated,
for example, with pesticides like strawberries, or at least contaminated, maybe like avocado or
banana. And you can just focus on buying the ones that are most contaminated or avoiding them
if they're not organic. And then you can buy the cheaper ones that are not organic,
that don't have chemical pesticides at the level
of the other ones do.
Also, you can find, you know, source of really good food.
Like Walmart is the biggest organic grocer.
Trader Joe's, Costco, Sam's Club.
You can get staples there, canned stuff at much, much lower prices than you can get at
supermarkets.
So that's a great way.
That's what I used to do when I had a family of four
and I couldn't afford regular groceries.
I would do that.
Also, join your food co-op.
They often are community-based organizations.
They support local farmers markets.
You can order in bulk.
You can get stuff a little bit over wholesale.
Get a CSA, which is Community Supported Agriculture.
You can join your local community support agriculture organization,
and you can actually get your produce delivered to you every week at a great discount.
Organic food is amazing.
You'll get what's fresh and seasoned, and it may not be always pretty looking,
but it's yummy and delicious.
Also, keep staples in your house that are your basic staples for cooking quickly and easily.
And I always have all the staples there that are dried goods, all the condiments, all the things I want. So I can
just boom, cook really easy. Also do something fun, like maybe create a supper club with a group
of friends rather than going out to dinner once a week or once a month, rotate dinner parties at
each other's homes, build community and you build your health at the same time. Also, like I said, you can get stuff online, which is really cheap. You can get healthy kitchen
items like turmeric, coconut oil, almond butter. My favorite online store I sell is Thrive Market.
They have everything you need at discount prices. They have a great reputation and basically
dramatically less than you'd pay. And you can just become a member and you have direct access to over 3,000 healthy organic foods and products at 30 to 50% below retail. And it goes shipped
right to your door. It's pretty awesome. So it's just important to understand that
eating healthy does not have to be expensive, that it's a myth promulgated by the food industry,
that it doesn't take tons of time, doesn't have to be super expensive or inconvenient,
and is a life skill like anything else. And if you want to take back your health,
you have to take back your kitchen and you have to learn basically how to cook.
So if you're not so sure about it, watch some videos online, take some cooking classes, but
up-level your skills and take back your kitchen and take back your health.
So that's it for today's Health Byte. Be sure to share this with your friends and family.
We'd love to hear how you've learned how to eat well for less. What are the
habits and hacks that you've used to make sure you can stay healthy and not kill your budget?
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