The Dr. Hyman Show - How Women Are Leading the Way to a Conscious Food System
Episode Date: August 9, 2019Globally women are leading the way when it comes to caring for biodiversity, water quality and quantity, soil health, and other aspects of consciously producing food for an ever-growing population. Th...ey are also producing 43% of the world’s food, despite lesser accessibility to own land, receive loans, and other essential components of farming. In this mini-episode, Dr. Hyman talks with Danielle Nierenberg and Paul Hawken about the potential for women to fundamentally improve our broken global food system, and in doing so, significantly contribute to the reversal of global warming. Danielle co-founded the non-profit Food Tank in 2013, an organization focused on building a global community for safe, healthy, nourished eaters. Prior to starting Food Tank, Danielle spent two years traveling to more than 60 countries across sub-Saharan Africa, Asia, and Latin America, meeting with farmers and farmers’ groups, scientists and researchers, policymakers and government leaders, students and academics, along with journalists, documenting what’s working to help alleviate hunger and poverty, while protecting the environment at the same time. Paul Hawken is an environmentalist, entrepreneur, author, and activist who has dedicated his life to environmental sustainability and changing the relationship between business and the environment. He is Executive Director of Project Drawdown, a non-profit dedicated to researching when and how global warming can be reversed. His book, Drawdown, outlines the most comprehensive plan to reverse global warming. Tune-in to Dr. Hyman’s full-length conversation with Danielle Nierenberg: https://DrMarkHyman.lnk.to/DanielleNierenberg Tune-in to Dr. Hyman’s full-length conversation with Paul Hawken: https://DrMarkHyman.lnk.to/PaulHawken
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Coming up on this week's episode of The Doctor's Pharmacy.
Most people don't know, I certainly didn't know, that a lot of the world's food,
probably 40-something percent of the food that's produced in the world globally is by women
farmers. Absolutely, about 43 percent to be accurate, yeah.
Hi, I'm Kea Perowit, one of the producers of The Doctor's Pharmacy podcast.
Women play a foundational role in agriculture all over the world. In two recent
conversations, Dr. Hyman explored the potential for women to fundamentally improve our broken
global food system, and in doing so, significantly contribute to the reversal of global warming.
Let's listen in as Dr. Hyman speaks with the co-founder of the nonprofit organization
Food Tank, Danielle Nirenberg. They have higher yields, better production,
they're more effective,
and they do all these other stuff that is for their family.
So they have a rough job,
and they actually are better farmers than men, it turns out.
One of the things that I'm most impressed by
is how women are protecting traditional varieties
of vegetables and grains,
and really saving seeds and making
sure that they're available for the next season and for the next generation. Women were always
the caretakers of seeds. And it's really, you know, they're the ones who keep that going
and make sure that it's around for their kids. You talk about how by actually empowering women
with better resources, with money, with education,
that we could increase yields by 20, 30%. And I want to know why they do a better job than men
growing food. And they could lift 150 million people out of hunger. That is a radical idea.
Those statistics are coming from the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization. And
they've been studying this issue for a long time. You know, you described it very succinctly. Women
lack land. They lack access to education. They lack access to almost anything that would help
them be better farmers. And men typically get those things. In some countries, it's 80 percent
of the agricultural labor force is made up of women. So they're growing the food that, you know,
in spite of everything,
they're still growing food and doing a good job. But imagine what could happen if they had all
their same resources as men did, if they had the education, if they were treated, you know,
respectfully by banking and financial institutions, if they had access to technologies and inputs and
all of the things that would help them do their jobs better, it could be revolutionary. So we
ignore women in the food system really at our own peril.
And if you know, and it's not about empowering women, it's about women being empowered and
empowering themselves.
Right.
It's also smart business.
It's smart policy.
It's just smart.
And I think one of the things when we talk about women in the food system is we have
to understand that we also need to educate women and boys and young girls. It's not about just educating women. It's about really finding ways to make sure
that men learn how to value and respect women, not only for the money that they can make,
but their value inherently as human beings and as wives and mothers and daughters and friends.
And so I think that's a really important part of this, this education of men and boys.
Yeah. You know, Paul Hawken, who we've had on the podcast, talks about drawdown. How do we draw down
carbon in the environment? And, you know, together, collectively, all the food solutions are the
number one solution. But if you sort of repackage it, and so what is another way to sort of see what
are the biggest solutions? It's really women's two things one is educating women and family planning absolutely and and those two
things we think of how could that have anything to do with climate change or agriculture but it
turns out it it those two things together are the collectively the biggest solutions to draw
down carbon in the environment because of the sort of trickle-down effect
of what happens when you educate women,
you empower them, and you...
And it's generational.
Let's turn now to Dr. Hyman's interview
with environmental activist
and executive director of Project Drawdown, Paul Hawken.
70% of the food in the world is produced by small holders,
which is defined by the FAO
as a farm that is smaller than two hectares
or five acres. And 43, depends, but 43, 42% of that is women. Okay. Those are the small holders.
Okay. What we know is that Big Ag, the CAFOs, the GMO, soy corn, et cetera, Big Ag produces 27% of the world's food.
And you would think, listening to them,
that if we didn't support what they want to do,
they would all starve.
But if you actually look at what they produce,
actually it's producing big pharma
because it's producing obesity, diabetes,
strokes, heart disease.
It's good for business for the drug companies
and the healthcare system, right? And probably dementia and Alzheimer's too,
because they're all interrelated, as you know,
because they're all inflammatory diseases.
And so women, okay, let's go back to women,
43% of 70, do the math and so forth,
they're producing 31% of the food.
They're producing more food than Big Ag.
Yeah.
And they're a solution in drawdown
because if we give women which we don't
the same tools seeds and support that men get smallholders okay and i was just equal it out
they outproduce men 10 to 20 they're better farmers and the fact the fact is then that's 200
million uh acres or hectares actually of forest that we don't have to cut down to produce food for a growing population.
We have all the land we need in order to produce enough food for the 10.7 or 9.8 billion, whoever, billion people are going to be here in 2050.
When you educate a girl, support her to get her education, she becomes a woman on her terms more or less depending on the
situation but a lot more than when she's yanked out of school and married early or put to work
to put her brother through school when she's 11 or 12 years old and that girl has an average of
five plus children and we've known this for 40 years this is not new data but if she's supported
to get her high school education the equivalencyency of that, she has two plus children.
And not only that, I mean, she earns more.
She has a better education.
She puts more resources into those children, have a better health outcome.
This is the girl effect that's been talked about.
And those children repeat their mother's behavior.
Boy or girl doesn't make any difference.
The profound impact that educated women have in the world cannot be understated. Globally, women are leading the way when it comes to caring for biodiversity,
water quality and quantity, soil health, and other aspects of consciously producing food
for an ever-growing population. The data is clear. Empowered and educated young girls become strong
women who support communities and can promote positive social change through the reduction of both global hunger and global warming.
The information coming out around climate change can be incredibly overwhelming, and
we know that our food system is an enormous contributor to global warming.
The good news is that the food system is also a potential solution, with substantial benefit
resulting in the global education of women.
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