The Dr. Hyman Show - The Surprising Key To Longevity
Episode Date: April 28, 2023This episode is brought to you by InsideTracker and Athletic Greens. Relationships are truly at the core of a long and healthy life. The longest-living and most joyous people in the world all share on...e common trait: a sense of community. When we have a tribe to lean on, it gives us a sense of belonging, connection, and worth outside of ourselves that can open up a wealth of possibilities for us. In today’s episode of my series I’m calling Health Bites, I talk all about how the strength of our connections with others is the number one key to our longevity. This episode is brought to you by InsideTracker and Athletic Greens. InsideTracker is a personalized health and wellness platform like no other. Right now they’re offering my community 20% off at insidetracker.com/drhyman. AG1 contains 75 high-quality vitamins, minerals, whole-food sourced superfoods, probiotics, and adaptogens to support your entire body. Right now, Athletic Greens is offering 10 FREE travel packs with your first purchase by visiting athleticgreens.com/hyman. Here are more details from our interview (audio version / Apple Subscriber version): Our social and psychological environments influence our gene expression, health status, and longevity (5:46 / 1:15) Learnings from the Harvard Study of Adult Development study (7:56 / 5:30) Good relationships keep us healthier and happier (9:07 / 7:11) Simple steps we can take to improve the quality of our relationships (9:46 / 8:40) How I stay connected to my friends (12:16 / 9:49) Mentioned in this episode The Harvard Study of Adult Development My interview with Dr. Robert Waldinger Just One Quality Conversation with a Friend Boosts Daily Well-Being Researchers at Michigan State University combed through data on 2,500 long-term married couplesÂ
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Welcome to The Doctor's Pharmacy. I'm Dr. Mark Hyman. That's pharmacy with an F,
a place for conversations that matter. And if you want to know what works better than exercise,
diet, meditation, pretty much anything else in determining the quality and the length and the health of your life, you might be surprised by what it is. It's relationships. And today we're doing a special
feature of the doctor's pharmacy called Health Bites, which is little small steps you can take
every day to make big changes over time. Now, today we're going to focus on the role of community, connection, relationships on our health.
What do the longest living and most joyous people in the world have in common?
Well, they all share one common trait, a sense of belonging, of community, of connection.
You know, when we have a tribe to lean on, when we are connected to others, we have a sense of belonging, when we feel there's a worth outside of ourselves, we can really
tap into an incredible array of our own inner pharmacy.
Not the doctor's pharmacy, but our own inner biochemistry lab in our brain that regulates
so much of our health.
So what we're talking about today is how the strength
of our relationships is one of the key factors, maybe the key factor in determining longevity.
I'll just tell you a quick story about a community I might have mentioned before,
but it's Rosetta, Pennsylvania. And it was read about this years ago in one of Deepak Chopra's
books. And they found that there was this tribe of, not tribe, a community of Italians that came
over en masse from Italy, from this little town in Italy. And there were all different levels of
society, wealth and achievement and success, at least monetarily. But they all came over.
But the thing that was unique about them was that they had a deep sense of community.
And no matter what station of life you were or who you were, everybody celebrated everything
together, all the holidays, all the birthdays and the weddings and the funerals and everything
was in community.
And then when they came to the States, they adopted the same crappy lifestyle habits as
Americans, but they didn't die at the same rate because they had this sense of connection. Now we know a lot about this research because one of the biggest factors in terms of your risk for
premature death is loneliness. Being lonely and socially isolated is equivalent to smoking two
packs of cigarettes a day. That's really serious. So biological aging is a result of all of our stressors
and our psychological stressors and relational stressors.
Our lack of connection is really important.
Lack of physical touch, lack of intimacy plays a huge role.
Not lack of being understood and seen and witnessed.
There's a huge role in so much of the ailments that we're suffering,
not just mental illness, but also physical illness and our longevity.
This whole idea of socio genomics, I actually came up with this term years ago when I was
in Haiti and then it became part of medical literature, not because of me, but because
other people also started glomming onto it.
It was this idea that our social relationships and our social networks may be more important
than our genetic connections in determining our health and our health outcomes. And that our lifestyle certainly influences our genes, but so does
our social connections, our relationships influence our gene expression. And it's really not an
abstract theory or notion. It literally is biology. Our thoughts, our beliefs, our relationships
all drive real changes that we can measure in our gene expression that can turn inflammation,
stress hormones. So for example, you're having a conversation with somebody, if it's a loving,
connected, intimate conversation, your anti-inflammatory genes will turn on,
your healing and repair genes will turn on. Whereas if you're in a conflictual relationship
or a conversation with somebody, you're going to have your stress hormones increase,
you're going to have inflammation increase, you're going to increase all sorts of bad things in your body that are produced by your
body that cause harm. So we have huge, huge, huge motivation, I think, to focus as a key part of our
health strategy and just life happiness strategy, a deep sense of community and making sure we build
that. So our social connections, our community, our relationships,
all are associated with long lifespan, with a better mental health,
with improved physical health, and things like blood pressure,
waist, circumference, body mass, inflammation.
Now it's in Ikaria and Sardinia, which are two of the blue zones
in the Kauai Peninsula.
And one of the things these communities have in common
where people live to be longer than anywhere else,
and I wrote a lot about this in Young Forever, my new book,
was the power of community. They all were part of this fabric and they all had their place. They
all had their role. They all had a meaning and purpose. Even if you're 100 years old,
I remember Julia was 103 months, she said, and she basically was still working at 100 years old,
making all sorts of wedding accoutrements, like doilies and little lace things.
I don't know what they do ordinarily, but it was kind of cool to see her.
She was constantly working and making stuff for all these weddings and was still involved in the community life.
So I want to share a little bit about a study that kind of reflects the power of this.
And it was an 80-year study called the Harvard Study of Adult Development.
And it had been producing data on so many different things on who lives longer, happier, healthier lives.
And they wanted to understand not what makes people sick, but what makes people thrive, what makes them well.
So what were the lessons from this study?
It was an 84-year study, right?
A long study. They were tracking the same people and over generations
asking thousands of questions, hundreds of measurements to find out what really makes
people healthy and happy. And they were giving, these people were giving regular updates on their
life, their health, their income, their employment, their marital status. They filled out questionnaires
and were part of interviews where they revealed their fears and their hopes or disappointments or accomplishments or regrets, life satisfaction,
and lots more. And this had a really incredible impact by providing lots of data.
The researchers use this data to assess how people's lives or experiences, their attitudes
affect their wellbeing. And one of the things that was so powerful from this study was sort of surprising. It wasn't career achievement. It wasn't exercise.
It wasn't a healthy diet that determined the quality and happiness of your life. It was good
relationships. Good relationships keeps us healthier and happier. That was powerful. And
the study's leaders that are, I mean, obviously the people who started the study are dead. The current leader of the study, Robert Waldinger from Harvard and
Mark Schultz have a new book. It's called The Good Life, Lessons from the World's Longest
Scientific Study of Happiness. And it's a great book. I actually had Robert Waldinger on the
podcast, The Doctor's Pharmacy, and you can learn more about the book and things there.
But what are the things that we can do?
What are the lessons learned from the study about how do we improve the quality of our
relationships?
First, we have to look at ourselves, right?
Who are we?
What is our life like?
What are the choices we're making?
How are we not prioritizing relationships?
So we can get really busy.
We can do all sorts of stuff that we think is helping us get ahead.
We can spend too much of stuff that we think is helping us get ahead. We can spend too
much time on social media, but we often don't really think about building and investing in
the quality and the number of our relationships. And for me, I know personally that my relationships,
my friendships, my community is the most important thing for me. It really is what keeps me grounded,
keeps me healthy, keeps me happy. And then more and more as I get older, I focus more on this, as opposed to like when you have kids and a career and you try to just kind of get by. And
it's like, sometimes friends can fall by the wayside, but it's really important to find,
and it even can be just one or two good friends. It makes a huge difference. Now,
when these people in the study actually were interviewed, they really actually benefited
from these interviews because it helped them realize where they neglected their relationships,
and then they considered sort of looking and finding, well, how can we improve that? So maybe
look at your own life. What's your social life like? Who are the people in your life that you care most about, that you want to have a relationship?
Think about how they support you and how often you spend time together and maybe do a little bit of
effort to actually focus on what matters to you most and help you make decisions that actually
can enhance the quality and number of your relationships.
So maybe spend more time with people who make you laugh and who elevate you and less time
with people who drain you and are energy saps.
So I think it's important to find friends and community members that help bring you
up and not take you down.
Sometimes you meet with people and all they want to do is complain and go on and on about
everything.
And I think there are other people who, when you're around them, you laugh, you have fun, you play, and it's just that's what you want.
You know, prioritize your relationships.
We schedule in exercise.
We make ourselves maybe time to make a healthy diet.
We focus on our career and work.
But we don't focus on prioritizing those relationships that matter and being showing
up and being present for us rather than zoning out on social media, you know, rather than like,
you're doing a million things at once, focus on, on your relationships. You know,
when during COVID, I, I think we all felt a little isolated. And so I reached out to about
six of my close male friends and we all have known each other for 40 often plus years,
maybe 35, the smallest, the fewest, I think was 25 years. And so we've known each other and we
formed this group. And every Tuesday at six o'clock, we meet for an hour and a half and spend
time together and share about our lives. And it's been one of the most impactful things I've done.
And it's something that you can do. It doesn't take any organization. You just need a Zoom link
or it's really pretty easy. And you can have these deep connections and relationships that
allow you to be seen and known and can really help activate so many healing pathways in your body.
Make time to talk to people, right? And it came in sometimes
with small relationships that matter, but a study in the University of Kansas found that the simple
act of just reaching out to somebody, a friend for conversation once a day, dramatically increases
happiness and lowers their stress hormones. So hanging out with friends lowers your stress
hormones, pretty good. And also, it's not all about you, right? So take time to ask questions, find out what's exciting for them, find out what they're
struggling with, find out what makes them happy, have them share their life with you
and value their opinions, be present, focus, and don't, um, don't just kind of be superficial
with them, but go deep.
Uh, so maybe try to have one conversation a day and put that in your calendar, uh, and,
and see what the effects will be over time.
It's super important.
Next thing is be kind.
You know, my grandmother used to ask my mother when she came home and said, I met this new friend.
She says, are they kind?
And I think kindness was such an important value in my family.
And how do we be kind to each other? And, you know, you know, the, you know, the, the, the relationship
happiness is determined by how you are in that relationship. And there was a research study in
Michigan state that looked on data for, for 2,500 married couples. And they found they were,
you know, how good they were in five different dimensions. Were they extroverts? Were they
agreeable? Were they conscientverts? Were they agreeable?
Were they conscientious?
Were they stable emotionally?
Were they open to doing new things and experiences?
And the ones who had higher levels of agreeableness
and emotional stability also had higher happiness.
So the more kind and positive you were,
the more likely you were to be happy.
So people invest a lot of time in finding someone who's
perfectly compatible, but that might not be the whole story. It's more about being kind to the
people you care about and fostering those deep connections. Also, a friend of mine had a word
that I really loved, which is called cop-to-itiveness, which is where you cop to it.
If you screw up, if you make a mistake, you cop to it.
And it's really about learning to apologize, learning to repair relationships, learning how to have nonviolent communication, and owning your stuff.
Like I said, also, a great way to build a relationship is to ask questions.
Instead of talking about yourself, ask questions about somebody.
Show that you care.
Show that you're interested in what they care about or thinking about.
If someone wants advice, don't just give them your opinion.
Ask them questions to guide them to the right answer that they know themselves.
Also, don't be shy about expressing your love.
There are lots of ways to love and lots of ways to express it.
Maybe it's simple things, you know, um, uh, I, uh,
I had a flight that came in the other night late and I usually take the Uber home and
my partner, she showed up unexpected and picked me up at the airport. It was like,
just brought me such joy and delight. It was such a simple thing, you know,
15 minutes from the airport here. And, uh, it wasn't a big deal for her, but it made a huge difference in terms of my own happiness.
And it was really powerful.
So help your friends with a project.
You know, ask them what they need to do, whether it's clean up the garage or work on a project together.
You know, call an old friend.
Maybe they haven't heard from you in a while.
Maybe you just want to check in on them.
Ask them how they're doing. Maybe you want to focus on helping somebody who's trying to do
something that may be difficult for them, try to support them and give them some love. Also,
when you have a partner or a close friend, do little acts of kindness. Give them a little gift.
Buy them something they like. Get them something that makes them smile. It can be super simple. When you often don't do these acts,
life just is a little bit flatter. And when you do them, it's super fun. Like I said,
my partner picked me up at the airport. I was like, wow, I got that she really cared.
Also, tell people how they,
you feel about them. Don't wait till their eulogy to tell them all the things you like about them.
Be specific, give people feedback about what you love about them, what you like about them,
what makes you happy and what, how you feel in their presence. Who would you be without them?
You know, who would you, who would you be now that you're with them? What, what do they inspire you to do? And, and, and thank them for, for what they do and, and, and how they show up for you.
Don't be shy. Like I said, don't wait until someone's dead to write a eulogy about them.
It's better to have eulogies when you're, when you're alive. And I, you know, I've actually
had a group friend group where we would get together and on people's birthdays, we would
basically go around and for everybody's birthday birthday we would share a little bit about what they're um like and what
we what we like about them what we love about them something that inspires us about them and it's
like it's like getting a living eulogy it's pretty awesome so um i i really really really
invested in my own friendships in my own community community. And I think it's a critical
aspect of our health. And as I get older, it becomes more and more important. So make sure
that you take the time to invest in good relationships because good relationships is
just important or maybe more than eating healthy and exercising and getting up to sleep. So hope
you've loved this little health bite podcast. It's never too late to invest in good relationships and cultivate new ones.
Not only will it help you live a long time, but it'll help you feel happier and more fulfilled
throughout your whole life.
So that's it for today's Health Byte.
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Love to hear what your thoughts are, how you've cultivated and built great relationships.
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