The Dr. Hyman Show - Transform Your Health Like Miranda Kerr: Inside Her Daily Routine

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Most people think of skincare as surface-level. But what if true radiance starts with your gut, your sleep, and your daily rituals? On this episode of The Dr. Hyman Show, I’m joined by Miranda Kerr..., founder of KORA Organics, to explore how she restored balance after years of gut and stress-related  challenges—and how you can support your own skin, hormones, and longevity from the inside out. We talk about the science behind inflammation, toxin exposure, and the small, consistent choices that make the biggest difference. Watch the full conversation on YouTube, or listen wherever you get your podcasts. You’ll learn: • How to improve your skin by healing your gut and calming inflammation • Simple daily resets that lower stress and slow visible aging • The ingredients to avoid in skincare and what safe, effective alternatives look like • How stress shows up on your skin and what actually helps you reset • A minimalist, functional routine that supports radiant, healthy aging Your skin reflects what’s happening beneath the surface—when you heal from within, everything changes. View Show Notes From This Episode Get Free Weekly Health Tips from Dr. Hyman https://drhyman.com/pages/picks?utm_campaign=shownotes&utm_medium=banner&utm_source=podcast Sign Up for Dr. Hyman’s Weekly Longevity Journal https://drhyman.com/pages/longevity?utm_campaign=shownotes&utm_medium=banner&utm_source=podcast Join the 10-Day Detox to Reset Your Health https://drhyman.com/pages/10-day-detox Join the Hyman Hive for Expert Support and Real Results https://drhyman.com/pages/hyman-hive This episode is brought to you by Big Bold Health, Fatty15, Function Health, Timline, AirDoctor and LMNT. Get 20% off HTB Immune Energy Chews at bigboldhealth.com and use code DRMARK20. Head to fatty15.com/hyman and use code HYMAN for 15% off your 90-day subscription Starter Kit. Join today at FunctionHealth.com/Mark and use code HYMAN100 to get $100 toward your membership. Support essential mitochondrial health and save 20% on Mitopure. Visit timeline.com/drhyman to get 20% off today. Get cleaner air. Right now, you can get up to $300 off at airdoctorpro.com/drhyman. Get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any order—just head to drinklmnt.com/hyman.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'd love you to sort of unpack what happened to you and what you actually have done to correct it and be in remission. I had some discomfort, I had bloating, I had pain, and it felt different to my other pregnancy. I was like, something's not right. It just felt off. And then I had some blood in my stool. After I gave birth, I then had a colonoscopy. And that's when they said I had proctitis. And I really believe wholeheartedly that it was obviously caused from inflammation, but also stress. Miranda Care is an international renowned supermodel. She's a wellness entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:00:34 She's the founder of the award-winning organic skin care line core organic. And she's a passion advocate for holistic health and mindful living. She blends science-backed rituals with timeless self-care to help women glow from the inside out. So long, I didn't even know that I was in this state of fight or flight. I was running on adrenaline. I basically feel like acknowledging that was the first step in healing. As the year winds down, your body's under more stress, travel, family gatherings, long workdays,
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Starting point is 00:02:25 100 peer-reviewed studies. That's why I take Fatty 15 every day. It's one simple step to support healthier aging from the inside out. Head to Fatty15.com slash Hyman and use code Hyman for an extra 15% off your 90-day starter kit today. So Miranda, it's so good to have you on the podcast and talk about the work you're doing in the world, your own health journey, and how that can help inspire and elevate how people think about their own health and particularly women about skincare, I think most people don't understand how difficult it is to live in a healthful way that isn't going to be causing themselves harm. And, you know, so many women over 35 are journaling career, kids, relationships, or health. You have kind of a philosophy around being
Starting point is 00:03:06 the CEO of your own health and your family's health. And I think you kind of start on this journey with your own health struggles. You know, you had irritable bowel syndrome, even more proctitis, which is a sort of a more advanced version and sense on the spectrum of an inflammatory bowel disease, and that happened when you're pregnant. And I'd love you to sort of should maybe start by sharing your own story and how you began to sort of be aware of your own health. And I mean, you're young. You're obviously look healthy, but things happen under the surface that we're not aware of and can lead to a lot of suffering. So I love sort of to share how did you come to sort of understand all this about your health? And what did you do to kind of help
Starting point is 00:03:42 resolve it? It's kind of a, there's been so many layers to my health journey. I guess it all started my interest in health and wellness started when I was a teenager and my mom was diagnosed with tumours on her spleen. And so as a family, you know, we had to really look at everything that we were consuming both internally, externally. We went through our whole pantry. We then started eating organic. I mean, back when, so I grew up in a little country town in Australia called Gunnedah and my grandparents, you know, would grow organic vegetables, you know, and I was very much into health and wellness as a young child in the countryside, and she actually introduced me to Noni Juice and Noni, as you know, as, you know, a superfood, super fruit. And I've been drinking that
Starting point is 00:04:37 since I was 13. So I'm very much, you know, and then... It doesn't taste very good, does it? No. I tried it. It's terrible. Yeah, my husband actually on our wedding anniversary, our wedding honeymoon, he actually had fresh noni juice from Fiji and he was like, wow, this is intense. But he actually asked for it every day. So that was fun.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And I drink it every day. It's still something that I've been drinking every day since I was 13 and I really feel like it's been helpful to me, you know, in so many different ways. and actually it's the key ingredient across core organics, but I don't want to get sidetracked there. So my mum being sick really led us into this deep dive of health and wellness and really it just opened up the door for so many other learnings. Obviously what you're putting on your skin soaks in.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And so we searched for certified organic products. And we really, back then, I think I was like 16 at the time, we weren't able to find the products that were truly certified organic and results driven. And that's kind of what sparked my interest to start my own company down the track in 2006. I started Cora Organics. That's a long time ago. Yeah, it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And that was, 2006 was the concept. 2009 I launched in Australia. And then it was basically like my first baby. I do have four boys and core organics I always say is my baby girl so yeah so going back to the health journey I got very interested in health and wellness at that stage when my mom was sick and we really helped her so much through making a lot of these changes through what we were eating obviously the thoughts we were thinking and also what we were putting on our skin and you know the whole philosophy behind my brand is mind, body, skin, basically because of a lot of those
Starting point is 00:06:47 learnings. And then, you know, fast forward to many years later. And I actually study nutrition. I'm a certified health coach. And I really am just feeling like I'm continually learning so much every day. And I want to be learning every day until the day I die. And I just think that a lot of the knowledge is continually getting updated, and I just feel like there's so much to learn. And through my own health challenges that I've had, I've really learned even more. As you were mentioning, I had proctitis. I'm currently in remission, which is incredible. That's amazing. Because, by the way, people, just for those listening as a doctor, this is usually a one-way street. When you get ulcer colitis or proctitis or an inflammatory bowel disease,
Starting point is 00:07:34 it actually doesn't usually recover unless you're on drugs for life. And that's the traditional of you, but you've shown that your own, through your own health, that you've been able to reverse that. And I actually had that happen to me after I had an antibiotic for a tooth infection. I developed severe C-diff, and that turned into ulcerative colitis, and I was super sick. But I learned how to completely reverse it and fix it. And I think it's possible for people. And I think they don't know when they change their lifestyle or changed their diet, how profound those effects can be. And I'd love you to sort of unpack what happened to you and what you learned and what you actually have done to correct it and be in remission. Yeah, it has been
Starting point is 00:08:08 such an interesting journey and at so many points I just felt like oh like it took a long time to get to where I'm at right now with my journey I was pregnant at the time with our now seven year old and you know I had some discomfort I had bloating I had pain and it felt different to my other pregnancy so you know obviously have Flynn who's 14 and I was like something's not It just felt off, and then I obviously had some blood in my stool. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to just, you know, see what this is all about and get it investigated and whatnot. And anyway, after I gave birth, I then had a colonoscopy, and that's when they said I had proctitis. And it's not something that is in my family.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And I really believe wholeheartedly that it will, was obviously caused from inflammation, but also stress. And I think so long I didn't even know that I was in this state of fight or flight, and I feel like from so many years, you know, I used to work six days a week, two different countries a week, and it really took a toll on my nervous system. And that was my, you know, and I worked that way from like when I was 18 to 30 pretty much, constantly on an airplane. And I just, you know, I was raised with a very positive attitude. I do have a very happy go lucky attitude. And I wanted to embrace all of these
Starting point is 00:09:54 opportunities that was, that I was given. And so I was very upbeat and I was positive. And I really leaned on these tools, like obviously meditation that I learned from a young age and yoga and eating healthy. But my body was completely exhausted. So after the modeling, I then went to obviously opening my own business and going through a divorce and then getting married again and then having babies again. I did have a miscarriage in there. So it was a lot. So I was a lot of stress. A lot of stress. Yeah. It was a lot of stress. I was running on adrenaline. And I basically feel like acknowledging that was the first step in healing, like really just being like, okay, I actually do need support and, you know, I just feel like this is time to really slow down
Starting point is 00:10:48 and actually incorporate a lot of those things that you know I really help. Like, I know it really helps when I'm consistent with my meditation. I know that I feel better when I do my yoga. I know that obviously eating healthy, I, for a long time was like 80, 20, like 80% healthy, 20% indulgent and I'm very interested in trying a lot of different healing modalities so yeah you know I've been completely vegan I was for like two years and then I realized that wasn't for me I then um now I'm gluten free dairy free at one point I was lectin free but not anymore um and I'm also egg free. So because the reason why I'm egg free is because I had my blood tested and it was showing
Starting point is 00:11:40 that these, you know, gluten and dairy and eggs were causing inflammation in my body. So I decided that I was going to eliminate those things and that combined with my meditation practices and hyperbaric oxygen has helped me a lot. And also like probiotics, but in your food. So like coconut kifah, I actually do digest goats kifah as well quite well. Yeah. And then sauerkraut and chumric as well. And I actually have a supplement that I take that does have high levels of chumric in there as well. Um, curcumin, um, which I believe has also been key to my remission. But, um, and obviously we don't cook in seed oils. And, um, and obviously we don't cook in seed oils. We're very conscious of that. And I feel like those, definitely all of that
Starting point is 00:12:43 combined has really contributed to my remission state that I'm in now. So I'm very happy about that. That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, that's an incredible story. And I think it's very hopeful for people because a lot of other times for this condition, we use very heavy-duty drugs that suppress your immune system like biologics and also steroids and really serious drugs. And through modifying your diet, getting rid of the triggers like gluten, dairy, eggs for you, and cutting out the processed foods and having the right supplements and probiotic foods, your body can repair. And that's the amazing thing about the body that can heal and repair.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And I think I'm wondering if you still get flares and, you know, what your kind of response to that is. and you have like a 48-hour response plan you wrote about. I'm lucky that I haven't at the moment, but every time I use the bathroom, I'm constantly like just checking. But I need to, you know, I do feel that the body has its own healing capacity,
Starting point is 00:13:43 self-healing capacity. And if you give it the right tools, it is made to heal and work with you. But you need to give it the right environment. And that, as I said, the mind, body, spirit. connection is all so intricate intricately connected and it's so important to look at all of it because just looking at one thing is not for me it wasn't working no you have to do all of it
Starting point is 00:14:15 it's like you know you have to kind of keep working on things until you find a way and I think you know as someone has also sort of recovered from this very serious alter of colitis you know I can tell people out there that this is something that we know how to do with functional medicine, that we can actually help people recover through the power of understanding the body's own healing systems. And that's what you did. You essentially took out the things that were causing your problems and you added in things that helped the body repair and heal. It's pretty simple, actually. But most people don't understand how to do that. And those doctors don't actually know how to instruct you to do that. So I'm really proud of you for doing that. And I'm proud of you for
Starting point is 00:14:49 taking control of your health. And most people are just abdicate to their physician and say, wait, what can I do for me? And that's why I've always said, you know, you need to be CEO of your own health. And that's also what you've said, which I resonates a lot with me. So I think it's pretty amazing. And thank you for sharing your story. It was really, it was really powerful. And I think it's going to a lot of people, a lot of hope. You know, one of the things I want to talk about is this whole idea of what we're putting in and on our bodies and how important that is to determining our health and our well-being. People that do understand that if you eat junk food or ultra-processed food, it's probably bad for you.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And there should be more fruits and vegetables. People get that. But there's more nuances to actually, like you were saying, geez, I cut out these three foods, I added in these probiotic foods. And there's more nuance to how to use food as medicine. But, you know, one of the big problems, I think that people don't realize
Starting point is 00:15:39 is the amount of environmental toxins or toxins in everyday products. And I'm on the board of the environmental working group, which helps to instruct people through very scientific approaches to looking at ingredients and using large databases to help sort through what is good for you and what's not, in your food,
Starting point is 00:15:59 in your household cleaning products, and your skincare products. And they have a website on an app called Skin Deep that allows you to say, gee, is my sunblock or my makeup causing a problem? And a lot of women use makeup every single day for decades. And they don't realize that what goes on the skin goes in their body.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And there's two aspects of this, really how I think about beauty and skin care and skin health. One, it comes from the inside out. So, you know, you can slather all kinds of stuff on your face and your body, but if your insides are not healthy, if you don't have the right nutrients, if you're deficient in nutrients like omega-3s or if you have gut issues or inflammation, it can lead to serious problems like acne or eczema or psoriasis or other rashes. And people try to cover rosacea, but those are all coming from the inside. And in the same way, there's a lot of stuff that we put on our skin that we don't realize
Starting point is 00:16:54 goes in. And my rule is basically, if you wouldn't eat it, you shouldn't put it on your face, you know? And I think, you know, as a doctor, we were trained how to use topical preparations as medicine. So when someone comes into the origin from the heart attack, we take out a two of nitroglycerin paste, looks like toothpaste, and we square it two inches on their chest, and we cover it over with a bandage, and it goes right into their body. and it's the fastest way to help somebody
Starting point is 00:17:20 because the skin is a vehicle for transmitting compounds from the outside to the inside. It's a semi-permeable membrane. And so women don't understand that skincare products are full of crap. I'm just going to say it. You're full of crap.
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Starting point is 00:19:44 So would you kind of unpack how you came to understand that this is a problem? And two, what you found in your research about the kinds of things that women were exposing themselves to that are potentially causing harm, causing harm. And then we can talk about how you were able to think about creating a new line of products, core organics, that actually helps solve for this. It's definitely a big problem. And I think education is key because until you know, you're just completely, unaware and you're assuming that what is on the shelf is safe.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And I think that's one of the biggest issues today. And I think, as I was mentioning before, with my mom being diagnosed with tumors in her spleen when I was 16, I really, well, we as a family, started questioning everything. And I just feel like there is so much in everyday products that people are putting on their skin. And I think that reading the back of the package and the ingredients is so important. And that's why, you know, I created Cora Organics because I wanted certified organic skincare. That was results driven. And people really don't have to compromise their health to get great results. Well, how did you come up with the understanding that, you know, what we were putting on
Starting point is 00:21:12 our skin in women's particular products or even men's products, why they're so full of crap and what that's doing to us and what the science is behind and that you learned in your sort of investigations that led to you to create core organics, which helps create products that don't have that stuff in them. Yeah, so basically when my mom was sick, we had this little book called The Chemical Maze. And the Chemical Maze was a simple way to show you all of the ingredients that were in, you know, packaged goods, whether that be food or, you know, skincare and whatnot. And it just had like, like a very simple way, like a layman's guide to, say, for instance, like sodium laurel sulfate. And, you know, it's a foaming agent. And it had like
Starting point is 00:22:01 a sad face and that it can be carcinogenic in high doses. And I'm like, hold in a second. We're using that. It's in every single product here, you know, for cleaning the skin or washing your hair or, you know, and I just, we were just kind of, that's where it all started. And that's where the information was learned. And that's where my passion was ignited even further about health and wellness. Because we were really just blown away by a lot of these ingredients that we would read in this book. and reference it, like when you look on the back of the package and you'd reference it and you're like, oh, okay, that's carcinogenic or that is an allergen or that, you know, whatever
Starting point is 00:22:50 it might be is not necessarily what I want to have on my skin every day because I look at it like a bottle and say the more and more you are filling yourself with these unnecessary ingredients is just filling up and up and up and up and up. And then when the bottle just starts overflowing, that's when you see, you know, if you haven't detoxed, if you're not aware of ways to detox, you know, like the sauna obviously is a great way, sweating is a great way to detox. But even if you are doing that, like, why put these unnecessary chemicals on our skin if you could have a healthier alternative to give you just as much just as incredible results. So that's what really started my passion to create core
Starting point is 00:23:39 organics. And it's just being a labor of love. It's my company. It's what I invested, you know, all my money into. I am the CEO and the founder, of course. It's not like there's a lot of people out there, celebrities, that might do a licensing deal with someone. And for me, this is my baby. This is really everything that I put my heart and soul into. And from day one, we've been certified organic by Ecoset Cosmos, which is a world certification body. And, you know, I originally started creating these products for my family. And then when I realized my mom actually had rosacea on her nose. And so I gave her the nose for face oil. Within a week, she called me And she goes, I'm off my steroid cream, and I'm just using the nonaglofacosol, and she has not had it come back.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So it's amazing. Amazing to see the result. So I was like, okay, we really need to share this with the rest of the world. And that's what we're doing. Yeah. It's so great. I want to talk about what is actually in the products, because most skincare products have fragrances, alcohol, sulfates. They have petroleum products, which can be all irritants.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They have things that are endocrine disruptors like parabins and thalates and triclosan that are in just everyday skincare. or shampoos or body care products, not even, not even makeup. And there's also formaldehyde, heavy metals, I mentioned, and there's pin pigments. It can cause all kinds of neurologic things, synthetic dyes, colors. And so, you know, I think people don't understand this, all this crap put in there. And it's not regulated. Like when you, you can't put lead in, you know, food, but it's, you can put it on your, on your skin.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And it's not really properly regulated. They're intentionally putting these things in. Like, these products are made in a factory, and they're intentionally putting parabins and all these dyes and thallates and parabins in them. I can actually, I've been testing pet patients with the urinary test for some of these toxins, and it's quite amazing how many people are just like full of this crap, and they don't know it. And you said, you know, don't know how to even learn the first thing about how to detoxify their own bodies. So, I mean, the first step is to not put that on your body. And the second thing
Starting point is 00:25:55 is to learn how to optimize your own detoxification system. So it sounds like you've, you've experimented to be that as a way to help and improve your own health, right? Yeah, no, I definitely have. And I feel so blessed that I work with some of the best chemists in this industry in the world that really helped me. I'll be like, you know, I really want to create a product, like from day one. I was like, I wanted to include noni in every single products that core organics was. And so I really believe in like beauty, like what you would, like you said, like, that the ingredients that you take internally and externally, so internal and external beauty
Starting point is 00:26:35 in that regard of like, like turmeric, for instance, like I cook with tumourine, I have tumouric supplements, I make little turmeric shots with orange juice and turmeric, and that's an anti-inflammatory ingredient, and it's great for you internally, but it's also incredible for your skin. And vitamin C that we have at core organics is made from cacadu plum, and cacadu plum is, and cacadu plum is the highest naturally occurring vitamin C in the world, and it originates from Australia. And my mom would give me cacadu plum powder as a vitamin C. And so I was like, I have to put it in for our vitamin C serum. And that's amazing. Most people in North America probably never heard of that. I never heard of it. Yeah. It's an ingredient native to Australia. And yeah, it's full of
Starting point is 00:27:23 vitamin C. And so I just love using ingredients like that. And then some other ingredients, We use like algae, obviously, how that's good for you, both internally and externally for your skin. And as you were saying, like a lot of those ingredients we eat, but it's also great for you. Like assaille, we have assay and another one of our products. So it's stuff that you would eat, basically, that you put in your skin. It's kind of cool. It's like you're thinking about what works on the inside also works on the outside, is what you're saying. Exactly. These are like superfoods that have such an incredible benefit for you on the inside.
Starting point is 00:27:59 side so then of course you want to put the most nutrients and antioxidants on your skin and that I really truly believe that healthy skin is the most beautiful skin and you see that and I see that first hand with my skin I'm now 42 and as I said a mother of four boys and sleep is very important but I don't get as much as I'd like and I just feel like being consistent when my skin care has really helped my skin be at its best. And I feel like it looks better now than what it did even prior to having core organics when I was, you know, that was back in 2006. I said that's when we started with the formulations and everything. Yeah, I'm sure when you were modeling and most people probably know your model, you were putting, I'm sure, all kinds of toxic crap on your
Starting point is 00:28:49 face, right? It was so interesting because it was, you know, I've been modeling since I was 13 and I have traveled the world and I've seen a lot of the tricks and tips that people would do to have their skin glow. And so I incorporated that knowledge into chloral organics in a certified organic way. So making sure that you exfoliate the skin and then, you know, and that will, and then you feed it with the right nutrients, like with the Nonegalo face oil and my tumourate moisturizer. And then you really do have glowing skin. So it's interesting that as much as there were products that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:29 were full of parabens or synthetic ingredients, there, there was like a purpose to them that I've kind of included that purpose and created a certified organic version, which is pretty amazing. Like we were, you know, some of the first in the industry to make certified organic skincare and certified organic vitamin C and we were, you know, way ahead of the whole clean beauty trend, which to me can be a little bit of a dirty word because it's not regulated and that's why I always wanted certified organic from day one, just so that there was no confusion and you don't have to take my word for it. It's regulated by an outside source.
Starting point is 00:30:19 How do women, or even men, men use getting here products. How do they kind of find the right stuff? And how do they identify ingredients that are problematic and that could be harmful? Fragrance to me is a big one, and I know you mentioned it before. So we use aromatherapy, so we use essential oils, no synthetic fragrance, and we use it at a very minimal level to not cause any allergies, but still to help, say, for instance, like the peppermint oil that helps with sebum, production um so it's like a therapeutic way to use the essential oils and i have been using
Starting point is 00:30:57 essential oils for many years and i love the benefits of essential oils and um because i do think that as human beings like we are sensory beings and and that's where why a lot of people like fragrance but they just don't understand how disruptive fragrance can be to their body, the synthetic fragrances, and I have a no fragrance policy for anyone coming into my house because I don't put that around my children. It's really disturbing, to be honest. How unaware people and it's everywhere. And people have those air freshness in their car. I'm like, oh God, those are so toxic. I mean, everything, cleaning products, skincare, hair care. It's sad. And I I kind of feel like, as I'm sure you would say, like, going back to the basics is kind of where it's at.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's not about this artificial fragrance or artificial sweetness or all these artificial things that in the long run can cause so much disturbance in your body. and that's actually one thing my mom didn't realize until after she was diagnosed because we thought we were healthy right but she didn't understand had a big fragrance collection and that was her like pride and joy and she was lathering it all over herself every single day and didn't realize like she's like oh but we're eating fresh produce you know and we're taking care of ourselves or drinking the noni and whatnot but you know it's it's really that 360 view of everything. She was lathering herself and in fragrance every day and it was unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah, and people don't realize that these things have been linked to harmful human effects. And as a doctor, I'm very aware of these things like linked to cancer, reproductive health. They're often endocrine disruptors. They scrub up your women's hormones. They can, you know, be very toxic. And then it's not like you're just doing it once. You're doing it every day for decades, right? And that's what concerns me. And it's sometimes hard in an individual to link the data together, but the cumulative long-term exposure is real, and the regulatory gaps are huge. So the FDA doesn't actively test these products for long-term safety. They'll leave it up to the industry to kind of self-place. And it's kind of just crapshoot for most people.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And there are some groups out there like Safe Cosmetics and ChemTrust that actually help create awareness about chemical products, the environmental working group, like I mentioned, which is really important. The fact that you're using ingredients that literally you can eat on your skin is an amazing concept. And we're AWG certified as well. That's great. So people can go to skin deep and or EWG.org and they can look and download the app Skin Deep and they can put in their product. They can see what's in it. They can see the harmful effects of these compounds that have been studying animals or humans. And then they can kind of find things that score better so they can use them safely. And core organics is clearly one of those standout products
Starting point is 00:34:08 and then I don't have any investment in or any affiliation or I don't particularly use them because I don't, you know, I use other things. I can use a Lillita skincare products for myself. But I think that it's really an important thing that people need to understand that especially women who are putting this stuff on their body every day,
Starting point is 00:34:26 we've seen the increasing rise of cancer and there's many reasons for that. But there's something you can take off your list. You might as well take it off your list, right? If it's something you have control over, you can't control the airplane. You can't control what I always say, I would say that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, so like you, but you can control what you put on your body. Yeah. And I think for anybody listening, it's not trivial and it's cumulative. And at one time, if you put on some block that you get at a beach somewhere and it's whatever, who cares? But like if it's the repeated daily exposures that are really the problems. The other thing I wanted to ask you about is in terms of skin, because it's clearly a focus you've spent a lot of time on is, is clearly it's coming from the inside out.
Starting point is 00:35:06 and the outside in. But also, you talk a lot about the role of stress and how that affects skin and how you look. And everybody knows that. And if you see someone who's chronically stressed, they just look worse. They look older, the skin looks worse. And how do you kind of think about that?
Starting point is 00:35:22 And how do you help women think about that? Because you mentioned TM and meditation and yoga and other things that you do to help regulate your own stress response. Because I think it's really important for real to understand that it's not just about what you put on your skin that makes your skin look good. Yeah, it's definitely more than that.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And that's why with Kora Organics, it is really about mind, body, skin. By the way, I've never heard that before. Having you? My body skin. Yeah. No, it's great, though. So you feed your body with nutrients to function at its best, but you feed your mind with positive affirmations.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And so on the back of every Kora Organics product, there's a positive word. I'm sure you've heard of Mazruyamoto, the Japanese philosopher who studied the power of words and how every word has a vibration. So on the back of every Kora product, there's a word of, like, bliss, love, joy, uplifting. Like, they're all words that are very supportive for you as a person. And I really believe in the power of words and how they can really help uplift you. And then in addition to that, all of Kora Organics products are filtered through and touch upon rose quartz crystals in the manufacturing process.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Oh, wow. Yeah. So that vibration of love, even if you don't know about it, you're feeling that energy when you're using the products and you're doing your monotonous skin care routine in the morning. You're feeling that love. There is a lot of intention around everything that I do. And so first and foremost, obviously, to be certified organic is like the most important thing. Secondly, our products are getting extraordinary results for people's skin. So I don't want to put on something on my skin. unless it's actually working and it's results driven. And so we do a lot of testing to really prove the efficacy because there's a misconception that certified organic maybe is not as powerful, but we've proven that wrong with our tests. And a lot of our products show that if you use the product, for instance, our plant stem cell alternative,
Starting point is 00:37:28 it's like a retinal alternative. And so we ask die-hard retinal fans, do you get better results using your traditional retinol or our alternative product with Bacucci oil and SIE? And they said they got better results. It was 85% of them said they got better results using my products, which are all certified organic. And that's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And retinol is a skincare product. It's a prescription for doctors prescribed for wrinkles. So this is a big deal. This is a huge deal to help treat wrinkles. in a way that's good for you, that die-hard retinal fans are saying, hey, this product right here, the alternative that I've created with Cora Organics, the plant stem cell alternative, is really giving me the results I need more so than my traditional retinol.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So you can get the results you need without hurting your body, without harming your body, putting unnecessary chemicals in your body, and in doing so, you're getting glowing, beautiful skin. The same with our turmeric glow drops that we just launched. I'm just remembering, oh yeah, so I have actually the results here of that. It says 92% said skin texture was improved. The pores, 80% said their pores were minimized, and 90% said their skin looks smoother, healthier, and their skin tone improved.
Starting point is 00:38:55 So, I mean, they're hard-hitting results that really help people's skin. I want small pores. I want less wrinkles. I want my, I want to have like glowing skin, you know. And so this is the way to do it in a way that's good for you and also good for the planet because we're a climate neutral certified brand as well. We were one of the very first to make the little refill pods. So you buy the glass jar once and then you buy these little refill pods thereafter.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I remember sitting with our manufacturer and saying, I want to do like a little coffee. pod that you put in and you pop out and you just need to buy that and you can put the jar and then just buy those little refill pods. So that was definitely a fun thing to create because now the industry is actually copied that and have mass marketed that, which is great for the environment. So I'm happy about it. But yeah, it's just it's fun to create these products and know what a difference they're making to people's skin and also knowing that I'm doing it in a way that's climate neutral.
Starting point is 00:40:00 as well. That's great. So you basically sort of working on multiple levels of personal care and planetary care at the same time, which is great. And I think people, you know, separate skin care from cleansing products like shampoo or body wash or conditioner. But those are also full of all kinds of stuff that's potentially harmful if you use chronically over time. And can you share a little bit about how you handle that? Yeah, the body wash is something I use on my kids and I actually even shampoo their hair with it. And now that I have my, you know, they're getting older like my seven year old. I was like, oh, why don't we just actually try shampoo? And he's like, no, I want the cora. I was like, oh, okay. So we're still using the cora on my kids. Obviously, my teenager,
Starting point is 00:40:40 no, I don't think he is, but he has his own hair routine that he's into right now because his hair is like a thing at this age. And yeah, body wash, body lotion and body oil, my kids, I just, I love, especially my baby who's one and a half, when he gets out of, like I bath him, we use a body wash. I know that it's, you know, safe for him. I know that it's good for him. And I know that, you know, everything in there is like, as I said, like safe. So when he gets out of the bath, I make sure that I give him a little massage because massage, I think, is one of another key to health and wellness. Like massage is so underrated. And so I'm, massage in the body oil and the body lotion together, and he loves it and massage his little
Starting point is 00:41:31 feet, his legs. I just, you know, in Arevada, massage is so important and the use of oils is so important and just kind of massaging the joints and rubbing it all in. And that's what I do to him and I've done to all of my children when they were babies. They don't let me do it now because they're, you know, they almost have a six-year-old, the seven-year-old and a 14-year-old, but they do use the body lotion on the themselves. They're not really, they're at that age where they're like, I don't want oil, you know, but they'll use the body lotion and the body wash. And when they were babies, it was just my
Starting point is 00:42:04 favorite thing to do with them, massage their little bodies with these products that you know are doing good for them that are helping their skin. But they like that. Yeah, and they're putting all the nutrients into their skin. You don't have to be concerned about it. And I think, you know, one of the things, you know, you said you have four kids and I'm sure you learned a lot about how to take care yourself in pregnancy and after pregnancy. But, you know, most people don't think about if you're pregnant, what are you putting in it on your body and how is that affecting the baby? Oh, yeah. And you have a whole sort of line of products that are for pregnancy and postpartum. And I'll let me just sort of chat a little bit about that. Because something people really
Starting point is 00:42:41 don't think about. And women should think about it because whatever you eat, whatever you do, whatever you think, whatever you put on your body is going to affect your baby. In so many ways that they're finding out now, like every thought. you think, as you said, affects the baby. And like that does, I know myself when I was pregnant, I understood that and I was very conscious to stay calm and do my yoga. I was very good at practicing yoga daily when I was pregnant with Flynn because I didn't have, you know, the other children to run around after as well.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And it's just kind of maintaining that consciousness knowing that it's all interconnected. And a lot of doctors these days will tell you that obviously you can't be using retinol on your skin. And so I've developed a retinal alternative. And then there are certain things you really should be aware when you're pregnant that you shouldn't be putting on your skin. And I feel like I wanted to nourish my body so much when I was pregnant even more than now because you feel so responsible for that little being that you have inside of you. And it's kind of like a nice excuse to pamper yourself a little bit more. And so I would love putting the body oil all over myself, especially because it helps prevent stretch marks.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And we've had so many testimonials specifically about that, preventing stretch marks and then also minimizing the appearance of stretch marks if they haven't used it prior. It's really the essential fatty acids that are in the body oil really help with that, the elasticity of the skin. And so to me that feels really good that I have these products that I've used throughout all of my pregnancies and I've known how beneficial they are. And it's fun and exciting for me to share that with the world.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Another big category that is used daily by men and women, and we're taught to do this, particularly on our face, is sunblock. And there's a million sunblocks out there. And you have a unique product that is a mineral-based product. And, you know, one of the things that's a lot of, you know, in a lot of the skin care sunblock products is parabins, which are some of an endocrine disruptor. And I remember I had a patient once who we did her urinary test for environmental toxins and her paraben levels were off the chart. I'm like, what are you doing every day? She said, well, I put the sunblock on my face every day so I don't get sun damage and wrinkles.
Starting point is 00:45:13 But meanwhile, she's potentially increasing risk of other kinds of cancer instead of skin cancer that may be more serious. just sun damage on the skin. So how have you navigated the sunblock market? Because I find it confusing. I think, you know, skin deep has a guide on it. But there's a lot of products out there that claim to be good or not. And how do you come up with your skincare product that actually helps as a sunblock? And how do you recommend people to use that? Especially as a mother and wanting to keep your children safe when they're outside and coming from Australia, I've been drilled into me to wear sunscreen. But I was, so hesitant because I also had learned through a lot of my, you know, research that there are
Starting point is 00:45:57 some sunscreens that are obviously not good for you and they have unnecessary chemicals that could contribute to other things, as you mentioned. And so I was on this mission to create certified organic skincare sunscreen and something that I felt comfortable putting on myself and my kids it is you know it's it's it's for your face and it is sbf 30 and it took me i think about six years back and forth with the chemist perfecting it um and it's a non nano zinc oxide sunscreen and it is just a really beautiful product you feel like when you're using it you know it doesn't make your face white because a lot of mineral based ones make let me just like you look like a clown right exactly i'll put a little on my hand here so that you can see that
Starting point is 00:46:45 it melts into your skin really beautifully. There's no white cast. It just kind of gives you the most beautiful glow, almost like a primer. And so much so that I like to wear it even to prep my skin before I put my makeup on, even if I'm going out at night, and I don't necessarily knees sunscreen. And yeah, as you said, it's 100% mineral-based sunscreen. And it took me so long, and, you know, I'm so happy with the formulation, and I know that you can feel good about putting it on your skin. Most of us think about the food we eat or the water we drink, but rarely the air we breathe. The truth is, indoor air can be filled with invisible pollutants, things like mold spores,
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Starting point is 00:49:14 And I know there's certain ingredients that I'm certainly I haven't seen or don't recognize or can't pronounce. And it might give me pause. When people look at the label, they might go, okay, what is, you know, alumina or sesquicaprolate or isosteric acid or things that are in there?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Can you talk about those things? Because, you know, I know you've researched these things. I know there are things. that actually are likely safe. So how do you kind of navigate that? Because you have to make a product that both is good for you, but also applies well, that doesn't have bad properties to it
Starting point is 00:49:47 and that actually can be used on a regular basis without causing a mess, right? Yes. And that's where, you know, obviously I have a team, product development team that works with me and our chemist. And they have the knowledge of what is, you know, able to be used in a certified organic
Starting point is 00:50:04 as an alternative to the unhealthy ingredients. And so they're very knowledgeable in that. And every single one of our products, every ingredient has its purpose and it's used to kind of give you the results you need, but in a way they're still certified organic. So I don't know off the top of my head all the ingredients swaps,
Starting point is 00:50:30 but I do know that it's very well thought out. because the products themselves, as I said, the texture has to be good. It needs to melt into the skin. I don't want it to be with the sunscreen, for instance, like having a white cast or with the moisturiser, I need it to melt in and not, you know, not be sitting on the surface of your skin. And so I'm just very grateful that I work with some of the best in the industry that help formulate that.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And I'm the one that is very much passionate about these key ingredients and what are the key ingredients and what works well synergistically with those key ingredients. And then I love going back and forth, giving feedback on how can we perfect this, how can we make that even better? Because I don't want to put it out there if I'm 90% happy with it. It needs to be more than 100%, like that I'm happy with it and that I want to. use it and that I feel good about using it and then it gives me the results and it still has the great texture. Like there's so many things to think about. But when I notice when I look at you,
Starting point is 00:51:38 have the ingredients listed in quite detail on the website. And I notice that most these things are things that actually I would eat like aloe vera or avocado oil or probiotics or C. Buckthorn, which is a source of a very important ingredient called GLA, which is an anti-inflammatory omega-6 oil. And I'm like, wow, this is really cool. You've got, and you've got, and you've I've got Saccharomyces, which is a probiotic that fights against fungal infections. And I think this is really well thought out. And it's also got kind of exotic plants that most people don't know about that have really powerful medicinal properties.
Starting point is 00:52:11 So it's kind of like this alchemy you put together of compounds that together not only can be nice to use and feel good and look good, but that actually are, you know, food is medicine in a sense, but like skin care is medicine. It's like I never thought of that before, but it's kind of like what you're doing, essentially, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm so glad that you've made that connection because that's the intention is really just feeding your skin. Every time you're using core organics, you're feeding your skin with the nutrients that needs to function at its best and to glow and be radiant and feel because, you know, the one thing for me is like I want to make people feel better after they're using these products. and when your skin glows, you feel more confident. And that I think is so rewarding for me to get that feedback from people, like,
Starting point is 00:53:02 wow, this is really transformed my skin, and they're feeling good about it, and they're feeling, you know, positive and excited about their skin now because they are getting such a dramatic difference, and they're getting in a way that's healthy for them. That's amazing. Well, I know you said you sent me stuff. I was traveling, so I'm going to go day around my packages to see what this comes, because I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:53:24 just okay i'm excited to try you know i want to sort of close by asking you um for those listening and particularly uh woman over 35 you know where should they start and how do they start thinking about taking care of their future selves and and uh you know you talk about how you want to be the grandma with the most beautiful skin how do how do they get there well i think that information is power so kind of as you said using those websites um that are available like EWG and learning about different products that are healthier for them than the ones they might be currently using or going to skin deep and putting their own products in there and seeing how detrimental they might be if they're using them every day.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And just kind of making educated decisions. No one's saying that you have to do everything 100% pure 100% of the time. But if you have a choice to make and you're going to get just as an incredible, result from using, you know, these products, then why wouldn't you? That way you're not, you know, hurting, harming yourself, and you're still getting the results that you need. So I would say definitely use those tools to make an educated choice for yourself. But in addition to that, I would say, you know, prioritize your health, prioritize sleep. Sleep is so important for us. And I feel like one of the keys to my health is going to bed early because I do get up early for my,
Starting point is 00:54:59 for my children. And it's, it's something I'm naturally a night owl. And before I met my husband, I was still a night owl, even though I knew it was better to go to sleep early. But I just, I just am feeling so much better from going to sleep. Like literally I go, last night, I think I was in bed at 8.30. And then I was wide awake this morning at 5 a.m. And I was like, this is amazing. And one thing I've been doing that really is incredible is waking up with the sunrise. So once I'm awake, I then open the windows and I watch the sunrise come up. And you might know about this, but I've heard that before sunrise, like 20 minutes before actual sunrise, light is so healing and so powerful and contains like a lot of healing properties. And so I've been doing that lately, watching the sunrise and really noticing the difference.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And some other things that I would kind of encourage for, as you said, for these women, is just to, like, prioritize eating healthy and making these healthy swaps that you can do for your family and for yourself. Like, for me, that's kind of, I believe, not using, like, an artificial, like sugar. I'll use maple syrup instead. I actually used to put honey in my tea, but now I do maple syrup because I know that honey shouldn't be heated. And I've learned that. And I just feel like those little things that you do
Starting point is 00:56:36 and like obviously eating fresh local produce and finding movement that resonates with you and being consistent with mindfulness practices for us as a family, we like to start the day with three things that we're grateful for, and I ask each of my boys, what are you grateful for today? And I'm like, and I, you know, they often, at a point we're like saying the same things. And I was like, okay, it's got to be different than yesterday. Because they're like, my family and the roof over our head and, you know, my best friend. And I'm like, okay, it's got to be different. What else are we grateful for? And we expand that gratitude.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And having that attitude of gratitude is a beautiful way to start the day. And, and, um, And being kind to yourself because you need to learn to be kind to yourself and gentle with yourself before you can never be kind or gentle with anyone else. Yeah, I mean, that's beautiful you're saying that because most of the things you're saying have nothing to do with what you put on your skin. There are things about how you take care of yourself. And I remember early on in my career, there was a guy named Nicholas Perricone who was a physician and dermatologist who wrote a book called The Rinkle Cure that I read.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And essentially what his thesis was is that inflammation makes your skin look bad. And that if we live an anti-inflammatory lifestyle, we're going to look better and we're going to feel better. And it's going to be beauty from the inside out, whether it's eating more organic or omega-3 rich foods like wild salmon or taking various antioxidants for your diet. Wild-cut, that's right, wild-cut. So I thought, you know, it was really early on. And I was like, oh, wow, beauty is really from the inside out. And yes, there's a lot of products that you can put on your skin will help. But if you don't start with the basics, which is what you just laid out, and we all see this.
Starting point is 00:58:26 We see people who don't take care of themselves, who are smokers, who drink too much, who are inflamed, who eat processed food. And, you know, what's amazing to me, Miranda, is that, you know, as a doctor, I put people on a 10-day reset program. It's like, I call it, like, hitting the reset button and turning your body back to its original factory settings, and essentially it's a very anti-inflammatory whole foods diet that takes away a lot of things that you remove from diet, like gluten, dairy, sugar, processed food, and so forth. And it's unbelievable what happens in just such a short time. All the fluid, puffiness
Starting point is 00:58:59 goes out of their skin, the inflammation, the redness goes out of their skin, they look healthier, they're glowing. And it's just, it's, it's a doorway that most people don't think about. And the beauty industry has gotten so big. And it's, in a way, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's putting a lot of women at risk unnecessarily. And I think, I think, you know, you're leaning into creating a business that actually helps women make better choices and even men. And I'm excited to start using more of your products. Yeah, I'm excited. Please let me know how you feel after you've been using them, how your skin is.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Look, I'm 65, so I need all the help I can get. Well, we really got to make sure that we've sent you the plant stem cell range because that really helps. And also, we have a mask. the mask that I use every night and the milky mushroom mask and it really helps with like plumping the skin. So I put it on right before I go to sleep and I wake up and my skin is all glowing and radiant. I mean, I feel kind of like an idiot when it comes to skincare.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Like I put on paste cream and but like after that I don't really know the routine or how to do it or what to do. Is there a sort of a guide or either on your website or that you share in a book or somehow that people can kind of who don't know what to do in what order, where they start? Definitely, we have the steps laid out on the website, but you're right, it is overwhelming. And for some people like me, it's second nature, but it's not for many, many people. And as you said, especially men.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So it is laid out on the website, but it also, I believe in kind of like the simplicity as well for people who are getting started, like cleanse, a scrub and moisture. And so depending on what your needs are, I really love the chimerick glow cleanser, but we also have an active algae cleansing balm, which people are obsessed with to remove their makeup. I love them both for different reasons, but for men, the chimerick glow foaming cleanser is incredible. The chimerick brightening and exfoliating mask, as I told you about. And the moisterizer, for you, I would suggest the plant stem cell retinal alternative
Starting point is 01:01:06 moisturizer. It's this purple one and it's really incredible to really help treat aging and those deep lines. And if you look on the website, you will see the before and afters and you will be blown away. So that's kind of like the way to start. And then of course, my husband is really won't go anywhere without the noniglo face oil. So you won't go wrong there. But there are so many other products for product junkies like me that are available there on the website. But Starting with the simple, like, cleanse, scrub, moisturize is a good place to start. That's amazing. You know, and I think this might sound like an infomercial for your products.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And again, I have no financial interest in them. I don't have any affiliation. I don't get any benefit from it. But the reason I wanted to highlight your work was because we need more companies out there that are giving people alternatives to all the things that are causing harm. And I, on the other end of the spectrum, as a doctor, see the harm that's being caused by the choices we make, the things we do, and the unconscious ways in which we actually
Starting point is 01:02:10 are using products that we think are fine, that are not. I mean, I once had a patient who had a certain brand of lipstick that was just full of lead. And when I tested her, her lead levels were extremely high. And people just don't know. And so I wanted to highlight what you're doing. I wanted to highlight the fact that beauty comes from the inside out as well as the outside in,
Starting point is 01:02:30 and that it's a multi-layered process of taking care of yourself at every level in terms of sleep and terms of men, managing the gap-eating stress, what you eat. And that's particularly important. Your microbiome plays a huge role in your skin health, sweating, saunas. I mean, there's so many things that you can do aside from what you put on your skin. And then, you know, you can fix it.
Starting point is 01:02:52 I mean, you can do all your skin-to-hair products. But if you're eating, you know, processed food all day and your microbiome's a mess, you're going to have a hard time getting to where you want to get to. So I think you're, you know, you're really, you're really adding to our understanding of what's wrong with our products on the skin care market and what we can do to think differently about our health and our skin in a beautiful way. And I really applaud you for what you've done, for the commitment you had, and for how you actually are giving people a viable alternative. And now I'm kind of excited to start using these things.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Oh, good. I'm excited for you to try as well. And I, you know, when you asked me to come on, I was very excited to come on. And I really wanted to make sure that I was sharing not just my passion for my skin care, which is my baby. And meanwhile, I just want to make it known that even though I started this in 2006, I still haven't taken a cent from my company because I continually invest it back into the company to grow the company because I believe people really deserve these products. So this is like a labor of love for me. You know, it really is my passion and it's it's not something that I'm that I'm actually benefiting financially from because I'm just putting it all back into the company and into my team and into creating more incredible
Starting point is 01:04:10 products that I really truly believe with my whole heart that people deserve and and once they know better they'll do better and I want to give that opportunity to them and I feel like we're still one of the certified organic brands like one of the only certified organic brands out there and it's a really hard thing to do to be certified organic because every single thing and that's why there's not many brands out there that do it because you have to be audited everything needs to be approved everything the manufacturer has to be ordered or the ingredients sourcing has to be at such a high level and it's kind of like a lot of extra work for my team but it's something that I wouldn't want anything else on my skin I don't just want like clean
Starting point is 01:04:58 skin care, I want like ingredients that are actually feeding my skin and putting those nutrients into my skin and super like actively working to give me more glowy, beautiful skin. As you said, I do want to be a grandma with great skin and hopefully. That's a great place. That's a great place. That's a great place. Well, I want to be a grandpa with great skin. I just talked to my daughter. I think she's trying to get pregnant now. So I'm on your plan. I'm on your plan, Miranda. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Thank you for what you've done to great service. And I think, you know, the fact that you reveal that you aren't making a profit from
Starting point is 01:05:31 this company that you're pouring all back in the development and the research says a lot about who you are and what you're doing in the world as an active service to help move the need a little bit towards health for everybody on the planet. So thank you so much, Miranda. Thanks for coming on the podcast and everything you do. And I hope we get to hang on person sometime. And I'm going to go down, ruffle through my packages and see if I can find it. And if not I'm going to call you.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Yes, please do. Let me know because I will send it to you, Express. All right. Well, thank you so much, Miranda. And have a wonderful day and enjoy your four kids and your husband and everything you are standing for. Thank you so much. Take care. If you love this podcast, when it comes to supplements, you only want the best for your body,
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