The Dr. Hyman Show - What To Eat And Do To Promote Detoxification

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

What To Eat And Do To Promote Detoxification | This episode is brought to you by Athletic Greens In a healthy body, the process of detoxification runs smoothly. When our detoxification system becomes overwhelmed and overloaded, we start developing symptoms and get sick. This is why supporting our innate detoxification system is a vital component of full body health.  In this miniepisode, Dr. Hyman speaks with his colleagues at The UltraWellness Center about how proper detoxification starts with our diets. They explore how food and lifestyle practices can be used to enhance detoxification and support our overall health.  Maggie Ward, MS, RD, LDN is the Nutrition Director at The UltraWellness Center. Maggie holds a master’s degree in Nutrition from Bastyr University which focuses on using whole foods for holistic Nutrition Therapy. In addition, she completed her requirements to become a registered dietitian at Westchester Medical Center in NY. Prior to joining The UltraWellness Center team in 2008, Maggie worked at The Brooklyn Hospital Center in New York providing nutrition counseling to children and families dealing with HIV. She also taught at the Jewish Community Center in Manhattan and other sites throughout New York City, teaching nutritionally focused cooking classes for children and adults. Much of her focus is on food allergies, digestive disorders, inflammatory conditions, Pediatrics and Sports Nutrition. Maggie has been counseling individuals, families and business groups on therapeutic diets to address various health concerns for more than 15 years. Her ongoing clinical training through the Institute for Functional Medicine uses a systems biology approach when working with those who suffer from chronic and acute conditions to help them find their path to healing. She has a passion for cooking and reconnecting people with their potential to heal using whole, organic and local foods.   Dr. LePine graduated from Dartmouth Medical School and is Board Certified in Internal Medicine, specializing in Integrative Functional Medicine. He is an Institute for Functional Medicine Certified Practitioner. Prior to joining The UltraWellness Center, he worked as a physician at Canyon Ranch in Lenox, MA, for 10 years. Dr. LePine’s focus at The UltraWellness Center is to help his patients achieve optimal health and vitality by restoring the natural balance to both the mind and the body. His areas of interest include optimal aging, bio-detoxification, functional gastrointestinal health, systemic inflammation, autoimmune disorders, and the neurobiology of mood and cognitive disorders. Dr. LePine teaches around the world, and has given lectures to doctors and patients at American College for Advancement in Medicine (ACAM), Age Management Medicine Group (AMMG), the University of Miami Integrative Medicine Conference, The Kripalu Center in Lenox, MA, and is on the faculty for American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine (A4M). Dr. LePine is the head of the Scientific Advisory Board for Designs for Health and a consultant for Diagnostic Solutions Laboratory. He enjoys skiing, kayaking, hiking, camping, and golfing in the beautiful Berkshires, and is a fitness enthusiast.   Elizabeth Boham is a physician and nutritionist who practices Functional Medicine at The UltraWellness Center in Lenox, MA. Through her practice and lecturing she has helped thousands of people achieve their goals of optimum health and wellness. She witnesses the power of nutrition every day in her practice and is committed to training other physicians to utilize nutrition in healing. Dr. Boham has contributed to many articles and wrote the latest chapter on Obesity for the Rankel Textbook of Family Medicine. She is part of the faculty of the Institute for Functional Medicine and has been featured on the Dr. Oz show and in a variety of publications and media including Huffington Post, The Chalkboard Magazine, and Experience Life. Her DVD Breast Wellness: Tools to Prevent and Heal from Breast Cancer explores the Functional Medicine approach to keeping your breasts and whole body well. This episode is brought to you by Athletic Greens. Athletic Greens is offering Doctor’s Farmacy listeners a full year supply of their Vitamin D3/K2 Liquid Formula free with your first purchase, plus 5 free travel packs. Just go to athleticgreens.com/hyman to take advantage of this great offer. Find Dr. Hyman’s full-length conversation with Maggie Ward, “How To Optimize Your Body’s Detoxification System” here: https://DrMarkHyman.lnk.to/M0AjgU6O   Find Dr. Hyman’s full-length conversation with Dr. Todd LePine, “The One Factor That Determines 90% Of Your Risk For Disease” here: https://DrMarkHyman.lnk.to/fwsZNO7X Find Dr. Hyman’s full-length conversation with Dr. Elizabeth Boham, “Heavy Metals And Health: The Untold Story” here: https://DrMarkHyman.lnk.to/y3XzifJG Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on this episode of The Doctor's Pharmacy. We use foods as medicine to upregulate these pathways. And you just mentioned the broccoli family, but any of those foods, broccoli, cabbage, kohlrabi, Brussels sprouts, watercress, arugula, you know, those are all foods which actually upregulate these pathways. Green tea does also. And you need those. And I find those, for me, are a staple in my daily diet.

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and I promise you'll feel the difference Athletic Greens can make in your daily wellness routine. Again, that's athleticgreens.com forward slash Hyman. Now let's get back to this week's episode of The Doctor's Pharmacy. Hi, I'm Kea, one of the producers of The Doctor's Pharmacy. When you hear the word detoxification, you might think of highly structured programs that have become popular in the wellness industry. In reality, our body has natural detoxification systems that can be supported with diet and lifestyle. Dr. Hyman has explored how to use food and lifestyle practices to promote detoxification with several of his colleagues at the Ultra Wellness Center. Here he is in conversation with nutritionist Maggie Ward.

So Maggie, tell us a little bit about this first patient that you've had that you wanted to share a little bit about what their struggle with. Sure. So this is a 48-year-old woman. She had a very long history of being overweight, started pretty young. When I met with her, she was at least about 80 pounds overweight and a strong family history for obesity as well as diabetes. She had a fair amount of joint pain. She said her ankles and her knees, she often would get joint pain. And her doctor had said she had some osteoarthritis. She had a very high stress job. I want to say she was a lawyer, I think. So just working a lot and pretty intense. And she would drink alcohol, even smoke a little bit occasionally, kind of just as

a social smoker for her stress outlet. And she also did a lot of exercise, which is typically, you know, we think of as a good thing, but she liked those really high intense, you know, like spin classes and things like that. And I think, you know, maybe that was setting her up to have a little bit more inflammation and joint pain. But her genetic testing was really, really interesting. A few things really stood out. She needed a lot of support with detoxification. And, you know, in this day and age, I'm really focusing on detox support with everyone. But some of the people we see are, from a genetic standpoint, have a lot more of an impact from those toxins in the environment.

And it's an area you really want to focus on because it can cause weight gain. And, you know, as women and our hormones and our estrogens, and we do carry more fat in general, you know, we have, I think more of that impact from these toxins. So I really shifted my focus over to her of really thinking about foods and other things we could do to support detox, moving those bowels. Well, I mean, sweating, you know, why our exercise is good, but you know, we can do saunas and things like that. So Maggie, two things. One, you know, there's a whole class of, of these compounds that we're identifying that are obesogens. They're environmental chemicals that come from our water, from air, from plastics, from cosmetics, from pesticides. These, these are, are compounds that seem to interrupt metabolism. So toxins

cause weight gain. I did write about this because I was seeing this in my patients. And then the literature is just increasingly abundant about how these environmental toxins are driving obesity and diabetes. So the fact that you found this on this patient allowed you to really customize your diet. So what were the specific foods that you recommended that helped the detoxification pathways for this patient? Right. Plants, you know, but mostly cruciferous vegetables. We know, you know, a lot of the compounds in there like sulfur or sulforaphane push these pathways known as sulfation through the liver. So a really important pathway to support. And that's, that was a genetic marker that came up is that she had issues with, with sulfation. So what are these cruciferous vegetables you're talking about?

Your broccoli and your cauliflower, cabbage, kale, there's quite a bit. And I always... Brussels sprouts, kohlrabi. Brussels sprouts, broccoli, actually broccoli sprouts too, is some of the richest sorts. You can get, get these sprouts too. So, and you know, I think, yes, you can take this in a pill and I did actually actually recommend it for her a form of sulforaphane. But I'm sure there are compounds in our food that we have not discovered and work synergistically. So you know, I never want to say, take a pill over food, it's food. And then if you can, you know, add in a pill. So we really ramped that up, we did more allium foods, which are your, you know your garlic, onions, leeks, scallions. There's quite a bit in that family. A lot of reasons why they're good for you, but they're high in sulfur.

So they support those sulfation pathways. And again, also getting enough protein. I think many people that we see because they're needing more support with detox or their immune system's compromised, everything's built from these amino acids. We talk so much about glutathione being this really powerful detox molecule that we make in our body, and it's a tripeptide. It's three amino acids. So when you have more of those building blocks, you can support those detoxes. And can you get those from plant proteins or is it more animal proteins? You can.

I mean, I do a combination, and it really depends, I think, on each person, you know, on what diet they feel comfortable with. So we fine tune it. But, you know, whatever amount of protein I'm recommending, I find a way to get them up to that based off what they feel they do best with. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, whey protein has been traditionally recommended to help boost glutathione and these detoxification pathways, but people often don't tolerate it. But I found there's a goat whey protein, which some patients do a lot better with. So you can, you know, kind of pack the system a little bit. Right, right. And yeah, I mean, whey, as you know, there's so much research on it behind not just detox support, but athletic performance, cachexia that you see a lot in, you know, when you get that wasting of the muscle and things like cancer. So I do recommend it. And often, you know, around those workouts too, again, getting enough protein after you exercise to support

repair and muscle growth. So yes, whey can be an excellent source of these proteins. So we really dialed in there and focused on the detox support. Dr. Hyman also spoke with dr todd lapine about how food activates our body's innate detoxification pathways if you look at fat registry biopsy studies where they literally took let's say if you have a breast reconstruction they take fat tissue and they send it to a lab or they're on autopsy they'll take a bunch of fat tissue from people and they send to a lab and And literally everybody's a toxic waste dump. Like if we were food, we wouldn't be safe to eat.

And if you look at the kinds of things that are in there, it's dioxin, it's DDT, it's PCBs, it's flame retardants, it's heavy metals. I mean, these are the things that are stored in us. And so traditional doctors are not trained in toxicology except for if you have an overdose of some toxin or an extreme acute exposure. But if you have a chronic exposure over a lifetime, there's no model for how to deal with this. But the good news is with functional medicine, there is a methodology for helping people

to upregulate their own detoxification system and to bind these toxins. So tell us about how do we do that in functional medicine? You know, you just, you bring up a really good point, which is that fat is the storage depot. It's a toxic waste dump. And I often tell patients that, you know, if you're wanting to lose weight, you need to support detoxification. Absolutely. It's a critical, critical thing. So in the science of how your body detoxifies, we sort of divvy it up into phase one and phase two detoxification pathways. So phase one is the oxidation process where your body sort of activates a molecule. And phase two is what we call the conjugation

pathway where we stick molecules onto them like sulfate or glutathione to detoxify them so the first step sort of gets it ready the second step packages it up to get rid of it yeah so you can think of it like taking out the garbage so you every garbage you wrap it up in in a in a plastic bag or a trash bag and then the guy comes out and takes it out yeah and that has to be in a balance so if you have too much of phase one and not enough of phase two, it builds up and you get these reactive species. So you have to have a balance in that phase one, phase two, a part of detoxification. And glutathione is one of the great molecules that our body has, which helps with detoxification. It's an antioxidant and our bodies stick glutathione onto toxins. And that's one of the enzymes, one of the most important enzymes I think is the glutathione S-transferase.

A lot of people say, well, I'll just take more glutathione. Well, it's not just taking glutathione, you've got to stick the glutathione onto the toxin. And that happens through glutathione S-transferase. And the cruciferous vegetables upregulate that enzyme system. A lot of foods are, we use foods as medicine to upregulate these pathways. And you just mentioned the broccoli family. But any of those foods, broccoli, cabbage, kohlrabi, brussel sprouts, watercress, arugula, you know, those are all foods which actually upregulate these pathways. Green tea does also.

And you need those. And I find those, for me, are a staple in my daily diet. know those are all foods which actually upregulate these pathways green tea does also and and you need those and i find those for me are a staple in my daily diet i eat those every single day because they're so important uh but there's a lot of other ways to upregulate these pathways you're right you need various nutrients to help like selenium and and all the b vitamins and all these things that help these pathways so we really are focused on nutrition and nutritional detoxification as the first step. And then what other kinds of things can we do to help the body to get rid of toxins? Well, there's also, traditionally, there's been the phase one, phase two parts of detoxification.

There's also a phase three, which Jeff Bland got me aware of, which is the urinary excretion of toxins. And it's very important to actually have an alkaline urine. So measuring your urinary pH is important because having a pH seven or above helps with the facilitation of detoxification. So drinking plenty of water. It's not just drink water, but you got to eat a diet that makes you more. And eating a more plant-based diet, a heavy plant-based diet will help to alkalinize your urine.

Plant-rich diet. Yeah, plant-rich diet. a heavy plant-based diet will help to alkalize your urine. Plant-rich diet. Yeah, plant-rich diet. Yeah, plant-rich diet. Exactly. So we have to take these foods in. And then fiber also is such a critical component. You mentioned colostaramine. Yeah.

But there are other binders that are just naturally found in fiber that help you eliminate these toxins. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And that's, I call it, you know, there's phase one, phase two, phase three, which is the urinary detoxification. And then phase four is the gut. You, you know, you got to poop it out. That's really, really important. So making sure that you're moving your bowels one to three times a day is very, very important. Take out your garbage, you know, and people tell me, well, how often are you moving your bowel every three days? No, you don't want to do that. Yeah. I mean, it's true. No, it's true. I mean, and people, Parkinson's we know very clearly is linked to environmental toxins,

but it's also linked to constipation. Absolutely. In fact, one of the key things is that way before people develop Parkinson's, they actually have constipation issues. And there's a strong evidence in the literature that Parkinson's actually can begin in the gut. Yes. Well, it might be beginning in the gut, but also if you're not eliminating what's in there,

it's exposing you to more toxins over time. So we use food. We also use a lot of special nutrients to upregulate these pathways that whether they're herbs or vitamins, things like milk thistle, selenium, N-acetylcysteine, lipoic acid. So we have a whole regimen in functional medicine to help your body detoxify. And there's other things you can do, right? Sauna, sweating. Sauna, sweating, right? Sweating. Exercise. Exercise, yoga, right? All these things help to detoxify your body and move things around and

move your lymph and your blood around and actually helps you detoxify. Dr. Hyman also spoke with Dr. Elizabeth Boham about using food and lifestyle to promote environmental toxin and heavy metal detoxification. Some of us are more susceptible than others, and I personally am one of those. Me too. And so I'm not so good at detoxing. I have to make sure I kick up my system all the time. But half of us, a good half of us, don't have the genes to help us detoxify. Why? Because we weren't exposed to all this junk before this century or last century. So the last 150 years, industrialization, we've seen so much increases in all these heavy metals and other chemicals that we've had to deal with.

So one cookie may not be bad for you and give you diabetes, but if you eat 30 or 40, you're going to get diabetes. And the same thing with these toxins. And it's not just one toxin, like you said. And these low-level toxins that we're exposed to, the plastic, the flame retardants, the pesticides, the BPA, phthalates, parabens, all this stuff that we're constantly exposed to does put a wear and tear on our detox system. We were mentioning earlier, we always focus on nutrition, right? Because you need to have enough amino acids and protein to detoxify. You need to have enough phytonutrients to detoxify. Wait, wait, wait, before you go. So animal protein, the reason we need animal protein is very high in

sulfur-containing amino acids and other amino acids. They're part of these pathways that the body uses to get rid of junk, these detox pathways, acetylation, methylation, glucuronidation, glycine conjugation, and they all need these various amino acids to regulate these pathways. Your body has a built-in detox system. It's designed to help your body get rid of crap. And there are very specific ways to optimize that system. It's something that we really focus on in functional medicine, which is foods that upregulate your detox pathways. All the things we're mentioning, the right amino acids, the right mineral-rich foods,

things with lots of glucosinolates and things that build glutathione in the body, fiber to help bind the metals and get them out. So we have a real strategy in addition to getting rid of the source. You got to get rid of the source. Absolutely. We are unfortunately living in a toxin-filled world and toxicity can lead to a host of issues, including headaches,

skin issues, fatigue, brain fog, weight gain, and more. This is why supporting the detoxification system is not just important for people suffering from chronic toxicity. It's something we all need to do to support our overall health. If you'd like to learn more about any of the topics you heard in today's episode, I encourage you to check out Dr. Hyman's full-length conversations with Maggie Ward, Dr. Todd Lapine, and Dr. Elizabeth Boham. If you have people in your life who could benefit from this information, please consider sharing this episode with your community. We need each other to create a healthier us.

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