The Dr. John Delony Show - Bitterness, Forgiveness, & Fear of Change
Episode Date: October 14, 2020The Dr. John Delony Show is a caller-driven show that gives you real talk on life, relationships and mental health challenges. Through humor, grace and grit, John gives you the tools you need to cut t...hrough the chaos of anxiety, depression and disconnection. You can own your present and change your future—and it starts now. So, send us your questions, leave a voicemail at 844-693-3291, or email askjohn@ramseysolutions.com. We want to talk to YOU! Show Notes for this Episode 2:47: I want to make a career change but the idea of disappointing people cripples me The Proximity Principle - Ken Coleman The War of Art - Steven Pressfield 11:25: I've been married 20 years and my husband won’t engage about finances 24:24: My dad cheated on my mom for their entire 25 years marriage; I want a relationship with him but I don’t know how to get past the hurt 33:42: Lyrics of the day: "I Remember You" - Skid Row  tags: fear, career, failure, Ken Coleman, Steven Pressfield, finances, communication, marriage, Esther Perel, counseling, forgiveness, bitterness, infidelity, parents, family, boundaries, hard conversations, forgiveness for things in the past, fear of failure  These platforms contain content, including information provided by guests, that is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. The content is not intended to replace or substitute for any professional medical, counseling, therapeutic, financial, legal, or other advice. The Lampo Group, LLC d/b/a Ramsey Solutions as well as its affiliates and subsidiaries (including their respective employees, agents and representatives) make no representations or warranties concerning the content and expressly disclaim any and all liability concerning the content including any treatment or action taken by any person following the information offered or provided within or through this show. If you have specific concerns or a situation in which you require professional advice, you should consult with an appropriately trained and qualified professional expert and specialist. If you are having a health or mental health emergency, please call 9-1-1 immediately.
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On today's show, we're going to talk about a fear of failure during a job transition.
We're going to talk to an exhausted mother of four who needs her husband to step up.
And we're going to talk about what happens when someone you love
did things in the past that are affecting you in the present.
Stay tuned. What's up? I'm John and this is the Dr. John Deloney Show
where we take your calls about your life, the things going on in your world,
in your hearts, in your minds.
We're talking about relationships, your relational IQ, mental health,
your physical health, marriage. We might even talk about people who continue to take Zoom meetings
from their bed. We just as a group need to just say, we're done with that. It's weird,
makes me uncomfortable, and it's hard to make me uncomfortable. I'm just a guy that doesn't have discomfort. But when I'm in a Zoom meeting and Timmy pops up in the washing machine room,
because that's where he's converted an office, I think, good job, man. Washing machine room.
That's not even a thing, 1842. The laundry room. And Timmy shows up in the laundry room
where he's made a converted office. I think he's i was like way to go dude that's that's pretty cool and then you know ken shows up in his kid his kid's room
and that's where they're they're meeting i think way to go man and then james shows up in bed in
bed like he just pops up on the screen and he's got pillows around and a weird ratty graphic tee and a sideways hat.
And he's like, hey, guys, ready for the meeting?
And I just think, that's just weird.
It's gross.
I just don't need those things in my head.
And so let's just all as a team say we're not going to do Zoom meetings from beds anymore.
We're not going to do church services from beds.
That's happening.
Sunday school teachers
Don't teach from your bed
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Go to the outside
Go to the garage
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Thank you so much. Let's just go straight to it. Let's go to Kara in Bellev world, literally. Super cool. I'm so glad to be connecting with everybody. Thank you so much.
Let's just go straight to it.
Let's go to Kara in Bellevue, Washington.
Kara, good morning.
How are you?
Good morning, Dr. D.
I'm great.
How are you?
Good, good, good.
How can I help you this morning?
I am having a, for the first time in my life, a little career dilemma I need some advice on.
All right, bring it on.
What's going on?
So I've been at the same company.
I've been in the dental field for about 13 years now.
I'm with the same practice for the full 13 years.
Are you a dentist or a dental hygienist?
What are you doing there?
I was a dental assistant.
Now I'm kind of like a patient care coordinator,
office manager type position. Very cool. And just as an aside, you see some crazy stuff in a dentist
office, don't you? Yes, we do. I always think that a dentist, like, I don't know, like a dentist and
a proctologist, those two know, like, I can tell you about yourself, right?
Like, everyone else can be lied to, but y'all, those two doctors, y'all, I mean, you get to see it all.
So, man.
The evidence is there.
God bless you, man.
Yeah, that's a whole other conversation about dental hygiene.
But, all right, so go ahead.
You're thinking about changing plans.
Yes.
I'm at the point.
So my husband and I just became debt free.
Congratulations.
Awesome.
Thank you.
And I'm wanting to change professions.
I have never changed a profession before.
This is my whole working career.
And I've been with the profession before. This is my whole working career and I've been with the same doctor
and I'm just, I have a, you can almost call it a crippling fear of failure and disappointing people.
So I just don't really know how to go about the transition without disappointing
pretty much everybody involved. When's the last time you super, super failed at
something? Like you just rocket diarrhea everywhere in a big box of farts. When's the last time you
did that? Honestly, I don't remember. Exactly. When's the last time you were in a situation
where you just mass disappointed everyone in your sphere?
Probably never.
Probably.
So what is it about this transition that suddenly makes those things that have never happened before,
they're not a part of you at all, that they're going to suddenly happen this time?
Probably because there's more people involved.
You know, I have a husband and a two-year-old daughter,
and, you know, you just kind of feel like people are not wanting you to fail,
but you just kind of, because you haven't had such a big failure in life,
I feel like I'm doomed for it.
I'll say it that way.
All right.
It's like I'm waiting for life to just hit me right in the head.
Yes, the nerd word for that is catastrophizing.
Oh, great.
It's this sense of I've had my good run and life is a mix of good stuff and bad stuff.
So I've had a good job.
My husband and I love each other.
We've worked really hard to accomplish this mega goal, which is to be debt-free. I've got a beautiful two-year-old who is healthy and fat and fun and mushy and huggy.
So any day now somebody is getting cancer.
Any day now the car wheels are going to fall off while we're driving and we're going to go head over heels into the whatever, right?
That's just this looming sense.
And then when you decide to be the one who pulls the trigger, metaphorically, right?
You're the one who decides, I'm just going to leave this profession.
I'm tired of digging into people's faces.
It's grossing me out.
Nobody flosses.
They all lie to me.
And if everyone keeps drinking all these drinks with sugar in them, their teeth are going to fall out of their face. You're just sick of it. And now you're going to build a story that
makes you the reason your family falls apart. Everybody fails and everyone's disappointed in
you, right? 100%. Okay. So what I want you to do is two things. Number one, I want you to stay on
the line. Kelly Daniels is going to give you my friend Ken Coleman's book, The Proximity Principle.
It's not a huge book.
It's a short book, but it is just a couple of key steps on what to do when you're thinking of making a major transition.
Okay?
And he's a buddy of mine.
He lives in that how to find work that makes your heart full and passionate world. That's his
universe. The second thing is I'm just going to tell you what just happened with me. I spent
most of my professional career working up to a place where I was going to be a senior leader
at a college, at a fancy college. And I accomplished that. And it was all the colleges
I worked at were excellent. The people
I worked with were awesome at all of those colleges. I learned awesome things and I finally
quote unquote made it. I got to where I was going to get. And then one day I gave a speech
and Dave Ramsey's executive vice president sat in that audience. She was dropping her child off
and she said, I'm going to hire
that guy. And that started a 18-month courting process. And I quit every single thing I know
to come sit in this room right here and talk to some cameras and to talk to people across
the country that I'll probably never meet in person. And it was a radical departure.
I'm a dude who did not want to be on the internet. I didn't want to be a public,
I just had no desire for that. I wanted to just stay at a small little college and take care of
my students and their families and to occasionally work with crisis folks outside. And so I want to tell you this, is this terrifying
to make this move? Yep. I just did it. Is it, um, could it go catastrophically wrong? For sure.
For sure it could. Right, Kara? Could it? So you're doing good so far. Okay. But here's the
thing. If I look around my life and find out the last time I catastrophically failed,
except for this thing I did at Battle of the Bands the other day, it was dreadful.
I totally screwed up this band's performance.
I did get up in front of like 1,000 or 2,000 people and mess up bad.
I did do that.
But what I'm talking about like professionally, that I just really just burned the house down, it hasn't happened yet.
And it hasn't happened with you either.
So I want you to look at your past performance, your past history as a good predictor of what's going to happen next.
Okay?
What you are dealing with is a natural thing called resistance. It's brilliantly outlined in Steven Pressfield's
book, The War of Art. You should probably grab that book. It's really small. It is remarkable.
Steven Pressfield, The War of Art. But it talks about it personifies this resistance,
this thing that emerges, this shadowy ghostly figure that emerges anytime we want to make major life change.
We want to make major life change and push forward and do things that are different.
And then resistance shows up and blocks us. It blames us. It says, oh, you're probably going
to fail. You should probably just stay stagnant and keep doing what you're doing. And it gives
you some good strategies for pushing through it. At the end of the day, Kara, I think you're going to do awesome. I think
you should jump. I think you should follow Ken's steps of getting with the right people, making
sure you know where you're going. Don't jump too soon before you have another boat in the harbor,
right? Otherwise, you're just going to be treading water for a while. Get a good game plan for where
you want to go. But man, I say say go for it i say absolutely go for it
you've put yourself in a position financially i want your daughter or your son your two-year-old
to grow up in a home where mom is totally fulfilled where she is joyful where her she laughs loud
where she loves her husband and her kids recklessly. And that every day she goes to work
with a sense of purpose, a sense of passion. That's what I want for your kids. That's what
I want for your husband. So go for it, Kara. Hey, call me back when you do it. Call me back when you
quit and you go to the next thing. Call me back and let me know. All right, let's go to the next call. Let's go to Carrie
in Lubbock, Texas. Carrie, how in the world are you? Doing good, Dr. Deloney. How are you?
I am having a blast today. So number one, how is my old stomping grounds? Is things going okay
in Lubbock, Texas? It's windy and cold. Sounds like business as usual.
All right.
So how can I help you this morning?
Me and my husband have been married for 20 years.
Okay.
There's no communication about our finances, and I'm just feeling very lost and don't know what to do.
All right.
My guess is if there's no communication about finances, there's no communication about much other than college football. Is that probably fair?
Stock show animals.
Fair. Fair. For those of y'all not from good values-based conversation about where your marriage was going, about kids, about who you guys wanted to be when you grew up?
When's the last time y'all had that conversation?
Or have you ever?
We haven't ever.
He won't sit down and talk to me.
The other day I asked him, he wanted to do something, and I said, you know what I want to do?
I want to sit down and have a real conversation about our finances and what we need to do.
We just recently sold our home, and we moved back up here to where he's from in Lubbock.
And we have this big dream of building a house and trying to get everything together.
And he tells me he's busy.
He doesn't have time.
And so what is it about having a conversation that scares him?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
So let me ask you a harder question.
What is it about having a conversation with you that scares him?
I feel like he maybe thinks he's failed. Out of the 20 years we've been married,
he's only worked eight of those. I have my own business and he has helped me. But when we first got married, he worked all the time when I was going to college and we had our first
daughter. And it's like he just quit. He comes to me and he wants something, and I'll tell him, no, we can't afford that,
and he gets upset and mad at me and tells me I just need to work harder.
Okay.
And then what does he do on the days that you're at work?
Do you just sit at home?
Yes.
Does he always have a scheme, a plan?
I'm just waiting on this phone call to come in or this is going to happen soon?
Is it that kind of situation?
No.
He's recently started working.
Okay.
And so he has been going to work for the last week.
Okay.
And he's hoping it becomes something good.
I've always been the breadwinner in the family.
But like my mother-in-law who lives right next to us
told my daughter when she came down from college this weekend
that I made enough money
and that my husband just needed to stay at home
and watch the boys.
Okay.
Is that an arrangement you all have?
That happens all over the country, but usually
it's something that people plan together. It doesn't just inorganically happen. Or do you
not want to work anymore? Well, I mean, I'm tired. I do a lot. I've had my own business for 15 years.
We have four children. I do everything with their education because he was
not very good in school. But common sense wise, I mean, he's a good old farm boy and he's really
good at outside things, but everything else I do. And so it's just, it's just starting to wear on me after 15 years of doing that,
completely, basically on my own. And I just, you know, I just wish that he would sit down and talk to me about things instead of telling me he's busy or he's got,
he basically just doesn't want to. He doesn't want to.
Carrie, can I challenge you on something? I think you've been tired for a long, long time. I think you've been exhausted for a long, long time.
And so what I want to know from you is why now?
Because you would have been exhausted.
I've got two kids, and I've got a wife who is an absolute gangster rock star,
and I'm tired.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Four plus a full-time gig
plus
a husband
who's part child too.
You've been tired for a long, long time.
What has kept you
from having that conversation
for five years, ten years?
Just the fact that I guess I feel a lot of myself feels ashamed of me because I feel like I have failed. What did you fail, Carrie?
Like our love for each other is great but our relationship is not
what does that even mean
um but every morning he tells me he loves me and i say i love you too and at night we say i love you
but we have no communication and can't talk to each other about things well yeah but i i could
wake up i could wake up with my wife every morning and say, honey, I'm a dragon.
And she could say, I'm a carton of milk.
And that wouldn't make either of those things real, right?
So just going through the motions and repeating the words doesn't mean much to anything.
I feel like I get mad and angry
yeah
you should get mad and angry
you should be frustrated
I do
and here's what anger is
all anger is
it is a signal
pointing you towards something that you care about
anger is a good thing
anger lets you know I really care about this guy Anger is a good thing.
Anger lets you know, I really care about this guy and I need him to go work.
I need him to go be a provider for this family or I need him to be a full-time stay-at-home dad and take some of this relational burden off me, some of the cooking and cleaning and the CEO of the house role from me, I desperately need some help.
And some of that's about him needing to grow up.
And some of that, quite honestly, is, I'm going to guess, is part of the greater plague
on men across the country, which is they don't know what to do anymore.
Especially guys who work outside, who have been told working outside is for idiots, for second-rate losers.
That work is getting harder and harder to come by as the farms get bought up and as water gets more and more scarce.
The whole industry is turning over, and there's a whole swath of guys who don't know what to do next.
And then there's equally a swath of women caught
right in the middle of that mess. And so my dream and hope for you, Carrie, is that he would be able
to come in and sit with you and say, listen, since I was about six, I've been posturing,
I've been playing, and I'm exhausted, and I want to love my wife the right way, and I don't know how.
Can we go learn how to do this together?
I love how Esther Perel says most adults have three or four great loves in their life, and if people work really hard and if they're lucky, it's with the same person.
And I believe he can come around, but I also believe he's not going to be the one who has that conversation first.
And what I want you to do is to go spend some time gathering your thoughts with probably with a counselor by this point.
15 years of this is relatively traumatic.
It's not relatively.
15 years of this is relatively traumatic. It's not relatively. 15 years of this is traumatic.
It's exhausting, and it's heartbreaking.
But I believe you that you still love this dude,
and I believe you that when you tell me he's still worth it.
But this is a conversation that you've got to have now,
because here's why.
You've got four kids you're modeling this for.
And they see it. That's right. And more than they see this for. And they see it.
That's right.
And more than they see it, Carrie, they feel it.
Yep.
They actually come to me and they're like, mom, it's okay.
Yeah.
And here's the deal.
Kids have no business trying to make sure their parents are okay.
That's not their job.
Right?
Right.
It's not their job.
At the end of the day, all you can control is you.
And whether that's by modeling what this is going to look like, which is,
honey, I'm going to start seeing a counselor now. I would love for you to come with me.
There are some awesome counselors and marriage therapists in Lubbock, Texas. I know them
personally. That's where I was trained. There are some extraordinary people there in that community that can walk alongside you,
and they can walk alongside your husband. But it's also about you not waiting till you're
exhausted and frustrated and fed up before you go have that conversation. Because the worst thing
you can do to a guy that's feeling beaten down, the guy that's feeling like he's failed for 10
years, is to run at him when you're angry. But to have a safe place where y'all can have a good conversation. And here's the other
deal, Kerry. The reality is some guys never get it. Some wives never get it either. And I think
the hard part for you right now is you recognize that may be you. It may never come together for
you. But all of the wishing and the I don't knows and the imaginary conversations you have in your
head with him that never happened in real life, the things that you think that he's not doing
these things because of, all of those things are poisoning you and weighing you down.
And they're starting to leak out on your kids.
So can I get a commitment from you that beginning today you're going to start taking care of
yourself that you'll go through and find someone to talk to today make an appointment today before
the day's over yes okay and I want you to tell him your husband I love you and we're going to
schedule a meeting just a state of the union.
How's our marriage?
How's our kids?
How's our future?
We're going to schedule a meeting, and I want you to plan it for a week in advance or two weeks in advance.
And there are some killer breakfast places in Lubbock, Texas.
And I want you to plan it for a place where y'all can get up on a Saturday morning and go talk to one another.
And I want you to have a list of things written out.
And I want you to make sure he knows he's loved. I want you to make sure that he knows that he's valued. But I also want him to know that you're exhausted.
And that you are interested in completely rebuilding your relationship from the floor up,
but it's going to take his full participation in that. And guys, if you're listening to this, it is never too late to go talk to your wife.
It is never too late to go talk to your girlfriend, to someone you're interested in,
to any significant other, to your parents, to your friends. It's never too late, guys,
to go in there and say, it's been five years, it's been 10 years, and I don't like the trajectory of where I'm going.
I don't like it. I want to start over. Can we rebuild this thing up from the floor up? And
I'm going to need some lessons. I'm going to need to learn how to do this. I don't even know what I
feel anymore. I'm going to need to go back to community college. I'm going to need to go
fill in the blanks.
Guys, it's never too late to have that conversation.
Women, it's never too late to have that conversation either.
You don't need to wait until New Year's Eve.
You can start today.
Start today.
But set up some time to go have that conversation and start taking care of you.
Carrie, after that conversation, I want you to call me back.
I want you to let me know how it goes
And if you need some folks in that area
That I trust
Get with Kelly and then I will connect you
To some folks that I know and love
And trust there in that community
We'll be thinking about you Carrie
And get to work on you
And get to work on that marriage
Alright, appreciate you
Let's go to one appreciate you let's go to
one more call let's go to tia in phoenix arizona tia how are we doing this morning good dr d thanks
for taking my call thank you so much for calling in how can i help um i'm really struggling with
relationship with my dad okay uh one second um Back up and talk directly into the phone there.
How's that? Perfect. Excellent. All right, go for it.
I'm really struggling with trying to have a relationship with my dad. We just bicker constantly over any and everything, and I really struggle with liking him. I love him because he's
my dad, and I just want to know what I can do to be a better daughter, I guess, and to make the relationship work when we're in so much conflict.
Why is there conflict? Where's this, where's the stem from?
So my dad, my parents were married for 25 years and my dad had affairs throughout that entire
time. The latest affair he had was while my mom was going through breast cancer.
And then 15 years later, my dad has married this woman. And so I just struggle with his life
choices. I really struggle with the decisions that he's made and I guess who he is as a man,
but I do want to have a relationship with him. Why do you want a relationship with him?
Why do you want a relationship with a guy that you disagree with when it comes to values that hurt your mom over a quarter of a century?
And then you feel like rubbed your nose in it by marrying the woman that he was with while your mom was going through breast cancer surgery.
Like what about that guy do you want a relationship with?
Well, I guess because my little brother died, my only sibling, about a year and a half ago.
And I just don't want to lose that.
It's just my family.
Yeah.
If I don't have a relationship with my dad, that's one more person I'd be losing.
Yeah.
I'm sorry about your brother.
Thank you.
That shouldn't happen.
I hate that for you, Tia.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
Is your mom still around?
Oh, yes.
I talk to my mom ten times a day.
My mom's great.
What does she think about your old man, about this ex-husband of hers?
You know, she still has friends with him.
They maintain a very healthy relationship, i guess uh for the sake of my
brother's kids their grandkids and so my mom doesn't like talk down about him she understands
where i'm coming from she understands why i'm hurt but she doesn't she tells me i need to do
what's best for me so she doesn't kind of like advise me to go one way or another when it comes
to my dad so you're you're oh let me ask you one more question. Has your dad ever violated your
boundaries? Has he been ugly to you? Has he been supportive of you? Forget what he did to your mom.
Has he been a good dad? Financially? Yes. Emotionally? I would say no.
Yeah. But financially, man, that, that ends up being people wallpaper with that. I mean,
that's right. I mean, that's, that's just like fancy Twizzlers for grownups, people who just throw money at problems. Um, has he, when I'm saying
emotionally, is he abusive to you? Does he tell you you're a piece of crap and why'd you do that?
Or is he just not shown up throughout your life? I would say a little bit of both. Okay.
And so have you ever talked to him about how he makes you feel, how you feel about his new wife, how you feel about what he did to your mom for 25 years?
Have you all ever had that conversation or does it just leak out in, and he complains to you and you complain back in this little death by BB gun situation?
A little bit of both.
But when I've tried to address the issues, like I'll bring up the infidelities, he'll say that those aren't my issues,
those are my mom's issues,
and they have nothing to do with me.
So he'll shut that conversation down.
You know that's a gigantic wooden box of dog crap, right?
Yes, absolutely.
Okay, that's 100% not accurate, right?
Yes, I do know that,
because I watched it happen my whole childhood i was directly affected
so you called me so i'm going to be real honest with you okay
and then i'll give you the first thing that popped into my head
um at some point you're going to have to how old are you uh 39 39 39. Okay. Exhale real quick. Big exhale. I can feel your shoulders tense
through the phone all the way here in Nashville, Tennessee. Oh my goodness. Okay. Now listen,
at some point you're going to have to let the fantasy go. Your dad sucks. Okay. That
does not mean he's not worthy of a relationship.
That doesn't mean that he's not somebody that should be in your life.
But your dream of having this perfect dad is not real, and you've got to let it go because it's wearing you out, not him.
Okay. It's exhausting you.
It's keeping that low level hum of anxiety in your heart all the time.
And after 39 years of this,
it's becoming,
if it hasn't already,
it's starting to depress the way you see the world,
the way you interact with people that you love.
Absolutely.
Constantly having imaginary conversations in your head to him,
right, that are never going to happen.
And those get you
worked up and those get you fired up
and those get you all pissed off.
Here's the thing. Your dad sucks, man.
He cheated on your mom for a quarter century.
When he needed her most, he wasn't there.
The thing you have in your corner
is an absolute rockstar ninja mom. And here's what she's given you. She's given you a model
of, I'm not going to let somebody else's poison kill me. Right?
Yeah, that truly is my mom. There's that old saying in AA, hating somebody is like
poisoning yourself and hoping they die. And your mom knows that. And so I'm going to talk good
about that guy that absolutely devastated me for a quarter century. Yeah. They broke up our family.
Yeah. Because at the end of the day, your mom's been through enough.
She's not going to let him continue to do that to her, right?
And so the earlier you can, I mean, the faster you can get to a place where this is who my dad is.
He doesn't tell the truth.
He's deceitful.
He's not honest.
He hurts people around him.
That's just who he is.
Once you get to that in your heart and you stop asking him to be something that he's never going to be, then you can approach him on his turf. Then you can make
honest decisions and assessments about, do you want him around your kids? Do you want him around
your relationships? Do you want to be in his life when and how? And so the one thing that popped
into my mind as you were saying this was at some point, it'll probably do you good to approach him like an adult.
And that's not a slight at you.
That came out as like I was clowning on you.
I'm saying to have two adults, not father-daughter, but two adults sit down and say, Dad, I want to have a relationship with you.
Here's my history with you.
Here's how I have absorbed this for the last
40 years. But I love you because you're my dad. And I'm interested in moving forward. Here's my
boundaries. I need you to be there for me. I need you to be there for your grandkids.
I need you to be honest with me. I need you to stop saying the following four or five hurtful things.
I need you for whatever time we've got left to step up.
And my hope, honestly, is that he will fall over on whatever table y'all are eating at,
and he will weep and say, I'm sorry, will you forgive me?
He's probably not going to.
And so I would be prepared to go into that meeting ready to forgive him and look him in the eye and say, Dad, I forgive you.
Because I'm not carrying your weight anymore.
I'm not.
I forgive you.
But I'd love you to be in my life under my terms, inside of my boundaries.
And if you're willing, I'd love to have you.
And then listen, you do have a small family.
Your brother unfortunately passed away.
I recognize that you don't want to lose somebody else,
but recognize that hanging on to somebody else sometimes means you're going to drown.
And like the stewardess on the airline says,
you've got to put on your oxygen mask first or everyone around you goes down.
Everyone around you goes down. Everyone around you goes down. So Tia, let me know how that conversation goes with him if you decide to have it, but you're going
to have to put the fantasy down. Your dad is who he is and any amount of wishing and
begging and yelling and fighting isn't going to change him at this point. Just put it down.
Thank you so, so much for that call, Tia.
All right, so as we transition out,
it's been a heavy call today, man.
As we transition out,
I want to thank everybody for sticking with us
and continuing to listen,
for continuing to join us on the show.
Oh, man.
I'm glad we're ending on this song.
This is the greatest song ever written.
This is a shout-out to my boyhood friends, Chris and Ryan and Caleb.
A song that we used to listen to when we were little kids.
And we'd always dream of whoever she was going to be whenever she was going to be, wherever she showed up.
It was a song written by five dudes who are pretty awesome and a band called
Skid Row. It was released in November of 1989 as the third single from their debut record.
The song is I Remember You and it goes like this. I woke up to the sound of pouring rain.
The wind would whisper and I'd think of you and all the tears you cried that called my name I remember you.
Through the sleepless nights, through every endless day,
I'd want to hear you say,
I remember you. What a song,
Pines guys. What a song. This is the Dr. John Deloney Show. you