The Dr. Josh Axe Show - Unlock the Secrets to Optimal Health | Dr. Mercola Reveals the Hidden Causes

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

Are hidden toxins sabotaging your health? Discover the shocking truth with Dr. Joseph Mercola and Dr. Josh Axe In this must-see episode, Dr. Joseph Mercola, one of the world's leading natural health experts, joins Dr. Josh Axe to expose the hidden dangers lurking in our modern world that are fueling the mental health crisis. With decades of clinical experience and groundbreaking research, Dr. Mercola is on a mission to empower people to take control of their well-being. Uncover the surprising connection between processed foods, seed oils, and the dramatic rise in mental health issues Discover the crucial role of cellular energy, mitochondrial function, and sunlight exposure in supporting optimal mental and physical health Dive deep into the top nutritional deficiencies - vitamin D, magnesium, zinc, and choline - and learn how to overcome them for enhanced cognition and longevity Explore the power of collagen, glycine, and connective tissue in maintaining whole-body health, and the surprising benefits of bone broth and crushed eggshells for pet wellness Protect yourself from the dangers of glyphosate and other harmful chemicals that are silently sabotaging your health Don't miss this eye-opening conversation that will equip you with the knowledge and tools to unlock your body's innate intelligence and reclaim your vibrant, lasting health. Tune in now and learn how to optimize your mind-body connection for a life of true wellness and vitality. Want more of The Dr. Josh Axe Show? Subscribe to the YouTube channel. Follow Dr. Josh Axe Instagram Twitter Facebook Tik-Tok Follow Dr. Joseph Mercola Instagram Twitter Facebook LinkedIn Follow Leaders Instagram Twitter Facebook Email Newsletter ------ Links:  Check out Dr. Joseph Mercola’s website → Mercola.com Explore natural health products near you → Mercola Market Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Traditional farmers are targeted for extinction. They will be extinct by the end of this decade if it continues on this trajectory. And we have to stop that because there's not many things humans need to do, but one of them is to eat healthy food if you want to stay alive. We're not going to survive on synthetic garbage that they're creating for us. It's not going to work. It's not going to end well at all. So when you're farmed, this is the reason of the point I'm going back to is that when you're outside farming,

you get sun exposure. Imagine that. You're not inside looking at social media on your computer, watching TV or whatever. You're not indoors. You need to be outside for significant part of the day. So most of us aren't there. We're not farmers. We have jobs. We have responsibility. So what can you do? Practical thing you can do is understand that there is a time value of the exposure. So it's great to be outside any time of the day, even at night. But the value by a lot from the biolocation radiation from the sun peaks at solar noon. Now, right now we're not in daylight savings time.

So solar noon is solar noon, 12 o'clock. And when daily saving times kicks in typically after April 1st, then we go forward so solar noon is 1 o'clock. So to be outside with minimal clothing around solar noon for about an hour is a good goal. Welcome back to the ancient health podcast, where we educate you on real health solutions that will help transform the way you live. feel and overcome disease naturally. I'm your host, Courtney Versage, along with Dr. Josh Axe, and Dr. Chris Motley. We're so happy you've joined us. Let's dive into today's episode. Hey, everyone, Dr. Josh Axe here, and welcome to the Ancient Health podcast. Today, we are going to be talking to an old friend of mine, somebody I've known for so many years. In fact, I attended one of

his wellness seminars. This would have been back in 2004, so 20 years. ago. It's Dr. Joseph Mercola. And super excited to have him today. We're going to be talking about the link between emotional well-being and our physical health. We'll dive into Dr. McCullough's latest books and his fresh insights on health topics. And there's always something new that I learn every time I talk to Dr. McCola. And we're also going to be catching up on his recent endeavors and how he believes we can better integrate mental and physical health into our daily routines for improved health and well-being. And so so excited to dive in here together. Dr. McCullough, thanks so much for coming on and welcome the show. I'm happy to be here. Well, hey, I want to dive right in because there are so many

questions I have for you. We maybe go 10, 12 rounds here. One of the first, though, is let's talk about the mental health today of the country. One of the things that I know you and I have noticed, I remember 20 years ago when I attended your first seminar, you talked a lot about insulin and insulin resistance. And the issues today regarding diabetes being on the climb, maybe fast, faster than any disease when you looked at childhood diabetes and obesity. Well, today, when you look at the statistics, mental health issues over the past five years have skyrocketed. What do you believe some of the root causes are of mental health issues increasing so significantly?

Well, I think there's many variables that contribute to it, but one of the ones that I'm passionate about is exploring the biological variables that contribute to them. That's what I really spent the last 50 years exploring. So there's a real strong connection between your body's ability to create cellular energy, usually from the mitochondria, not always, but typically. And once that cellular energy production decreases, you have less overall energy. Now, your brain is obviously where the mental health issues, right? It's in your brain.

So it's 2% of your body, but yet consumes 20% of the energy your body produces. 20%. That's an extraordinary fact. So it strongly suggests that that energy is important for the brain and for mental health. So in 2004, I haven't done really my own presentations that, at least I've sponsored my own, for about 20 years, two decades. It's a long time. I've spoken, I speak pretty much every year at someone's, but not mine.

That might change in the future. It likely will, but right for now I haven't been. So, but when I was doing it back then, my understanding was insulin. And what I've come to appreciate since that time is that insulin is for the most part an innocent bystander. It's not the cause in any way sure before. It formed. Yes, it is probably the single best biometric indicator of metabolic flexibility.

And 95%, Josh, 95% of people in the United States are metabolically inflexible. Actually, the number was 93.4%. and that was done in a 2019 N. Haynes data, so it's five years old, so it's probably over, maybe 96% of the U.S. because it's gone up literally, straight up. So what's the cause? The cause is not too much carbs, not too much sugar, but it is probably related to much processed foods, because what's in processed foods universally, and is not appreciated. Very few people understand this is a product of industrialization that occurred in the

It started in the late, or the American Civil War, 1870s, where they attained the ability to extract oil from seeds, seed oils or vegetable oils, with their euphemistically called today, inaccurately, euphemistically. They're seed oils. And never before in human history, it was impossible to eat a seed oil prior to 1870. Now we eat them. And in fact, it's the primary fat that most people consume. And there's a consequence for that because these are really fragile, perishable fats. that are highly susceptible to oxidative stress. And the fats themselves aren't particularly dangerous,

but because they're so susceptible to being damaged, they form these really toxic metabolic byproducts. They're called oxalams, which is oxidative linoleic acid metabolites, and they call other things too, but that's probably the most accurate. And there are many dangerous ones to some of people for like 4-hydroxinoneol, 4-H-Naldehyde.

Malindaldehyde. There are literally hundreds of these reactive aldehydes that cause all the damage. damage. And if you don't have high linoleic acid, you can't make them. So the solution isn't to, and it's nice to have antioxidants to protect your stuff, but it would be better, you know, than I believe, and I'm sure you do too, that prevention is the key. So that, in my mind, is the most important change that's occurred that contributes to this. And yes, they're stressors. Yes, they brainwashed and propagandized us during the COVID and people are dying needlessly

and dropping like flies as a result of their suggestions and interventions and mandates and coerceders. But fundamentally, those who are healthier biologically and are able to create cellular energy, you have good thyroid function. And really, their brain works. They can have critical thinking skills and they can function the way they're designed to. So I think that's the answer to your question. Yeah, I think these are excellent points. And I think that one of the other thing, as you mentioned, I think culture in general,

you know, social media, you know, right, people being addicted to their smartphones, you know, there's issues there as well, right, affecting the younger people, mental health and well-being. I know one of the things that people are trading is spending time on their devices, whether it be a cell phone or a computer or a tablet, instead of spending time outside, you were one of the first people I heard talking about the benefits of sunlight and vitamin D. Could you discuss a little bit more specifically sunlight? Because it's more than just vitamin D, right? And get into vitamin D. How does it impact us? That was a very prescient question. Thank you for asking it.

Because, you know, I'm writing a new book, and it'll be out in the fall. It's actually written, but we're staging a whole variety of functions or activities around it. So I know what the book is. And I've condensed 50 years of studying and really seeking to understand biology and what optimizes it. And summarize it to five points. And the very first one is what you said. I think the most foundational thing that you can do to stay healthy is to be in the sun. That's number one.

And certainly for some of the reason is to optimize vitamin D. Now, please understand that means a variety of things. First of all, you have to live in a location where that's possible. Most of us don't. I happen to live in Florida, so it is possible most of the era. Although there's two to three months, unfortunately, we just escaped them as we're recording this. It's mid-March and I'm getting plenty. You know, we have, we only literally have about maybe two months of the year where

there's not sufficient sunshine. Not, well, because of the latitude, the rays, you're not going to get sufficient ultraviolet, and the more important, which is near Tourette. So the first thing is you have to live in the right latitude to get the sun exposure. But even if you do, say you're living on the equator, if you're living indoors all the time and not going outside, exposing your sun or skin to the sun, you're not going to benefit from that latitude. You have to be in the sun. You know, at the turn of the 20th century, do you know what the most common occupation was in America? Probably farming. Farming is correct.

That is correct. You got it. It's my hope. I fully believe, and why am I going there? Well, for two reasons. One is that AI is upon us. Everyone knows that. And most likely will result in the loss of maybe a quarter of the jobs that exist right now. I think that's highly likely. So you're going to wonder, what are these people going to do? Hmm. What could they possibly do? Well, you know, we have industrial agriculture, which is an abomination, absolute abomination, and certainly largely responsible for much of the disease, primarily because almost all of industrial agriculture uses these processed seed oils.

That's what they do. That's what they make them. That's, you know, corn, soy, canola. These are all bad. These are not good news items for us. And yet that's a huge portion of what industrial agriculture is producing ostensibly as food. So what they can what two points one I'm getting back to the original that is a tangent of my I'm I'm I know where I'm going just just assure you the what the people who are displaced by AI can do is

return to farming and really serve as a substitute because one of my goals is to destroy industrial agriculture and I think and I'm grateful for AI to facilitate that transition back to the to the earth and when they're and when they're farming conventionally because they traditional farmers are targeted for extinction, they will be extinct by the end of this decade if it continues on this trajectory. And we have to stop that because there's not many things humans need to do, but one of them is to eat healthy food if you want to stay alive. We're not going to survive on synthetic garbage that they're creating for us. It's not going to work. It's not going to end well at all. So when you're farmed, this is the reason of the point I'm going back to is that when you're

outside farming, you get sun exposure. Imagine that. You're not inside looking at social media on your computer, watching TV or whatever. You're not indoors. You need to be outside for significant bond of the day. So most of us aren't there. We're not farmers. We have jobs. We have responsibility. So what can you do?

Practical thing you can do is understand that there is a time value of the exposure. So it's great to be outside any time of the day, even at night. But the value by a lot from the biolocation radiation from the sun peaks at solar noon. Now, right now we're not in daylight savings time. So solar noon is solar noon, 12 o'clock. And when daily saving times kicks in, typically after April 1st, then we go forward. So solar noon is 1 o'clock. So to be outside with minimal clothing around solar noon for about an hour is a good goal.

And maybe if you're really low latitude, single-digit latitudes, maybe it's 15, 20 minutes, because especially in the summer months. So you'll need less. But the key is to get outside. And you properly suggested that there was more than vitamin D. It is. The primary issue, the other variable that virtually very few people appreciate is near infrared radiation, near IR, which composes about 15 to 20 percent of the solar radiation. I think it's solar radiation, yeah.

So the UVB, which creates vitamin D is about 5%. So it's like four or five times higher than the wavelengths are responsible for creating vitamin D. So you would think, yeah, but it's that much higher. Maybe there's some importance to it. And it probably is. And that'd be correct. And so the question becomes, what does it do? Have you thought about what it does or do you have any idea?

Oh, yeah. Well, you're asking vitamin D or is just sunshine in general? No, the near infrared radiation. Yeah, well, I know one of the things it does is it's incredible for the health of our mitochondria. I mean, our cellular energy. Yeah. Yeah, that is the answer. That is the correct answer, gold star for Josh.

That is correct. And it is absolutely essential for mitochondrial cellular energy production. But the more accurate question is, how does it do it? How does it cause it? What's the mechanism? How does it produce energy? How does it facilitate energy production in the mitochondria? Yeah, well, again, well, I know probably a little bit more about how it does it in the liver,

but I'll let you explain it from the cellular standpoint. Okay. Well, it's actually subcellular mitochondria. There's mechanisms, and none of these mechanisms have proven. My intention is to prove the latter, which is probably responsible for 75% of the production. And that is when the lights come down, they hit your tissues, and near infrared is not obstructed by water. absorbed by water for far and mid is. And as a result of that, because your body's consisted of a lot of water. It's bulk water typically. I forget the percentages. I should know that,

but I don't recall what the percentage. But it's a significant percentage of your body, water molecules. And when there's water molecules in your tissue, the near and far runs do not penetrate. They only go down like a 16th of an inch, maybe a 30 second, just very superficial, the top part of your skin. They do not penetrate your organs. The only thing that penetrate your organs is in your infrared. So you think there's some secret sauce, and there there is. Because they're not into water mouth. What do they hit? Well, one theory, and it probably is responsible to 25% the improvement, is it hits the complexes in the mitochondria. There's five of them. And the fourth one is the most important case, an enzyme called cytochromsioxidase. And that enzyme contains

metals, sometimes viewed as minerals, such as iron and copper. But they're metals. They're actually chemical metals. And they function as chromophores, which means it's a fancy Latin word for it attracts light. It's like a magnet for light. So it goes there. And what does it do once it hits complex for? Typically, as a result of metabolic inflexibility and biological impairment, there's an increase in nitrogate.

And most of it think nitrogate is useful. But when it's high, it is not. It's actually pernicious. and can cause lots of damage. So what the belief is, and it's probably likely true because there's a lot of anecdotal support around it, is that the neuroferred light actually displaces. It's not a covalent bond.

It's actually ionic, but it displaces. It's the energy provided displaces nitric oxide, and then complex floor can generate energy more efficiently than essentially because the next place is complex five, and that's ATP synthase, and you're generating ETB. So that's 25%. The other 25% is likely. relate to the fact that it creates structured water. And in structured, do you know what structured

waters? You've heard of it. Of course. Yeah, wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of people drink it, but that's not the ideal way to do it. I mean, it's okay. I mean, it's not going to hurt you, but it's not going to give the benefit that you need. And what is structured water? It's also called hexagonal water or gel water. It has a different molecular structure. It's not H-2O. It's H-302. If you look at it molecularly, it's like a beehy at these hexagons. And what it does is it stores, it stores the energy. It actually creates a differential electrical potential so that you have a negative

and a positive, and that's like a battery. It serves as a functional battery. So what happens is there's items in your cells, and I'm not to disclose it because I've actually in the process of writing a paper. and I'm pretty confident it's going to be candidate for Nobel Prize because this is a mechanism that has to do with how that occurs. I've discovered it. No one else has.

I figured it out. But it's responsible for about 75% of the benefit of infrared light into the body, but essentially what it does functionally without disclosing the mechanism. It's a transducer. It converts a sunlight to stored energy in a battery, which then is transferred to the mitochondrial. mitochondria and that energy also increases the hydrogen ion concentration in the inter mitochondrial space, which is what's needed to drive ATP synthase. So it facilitates production of mitochondrial energy.

Very similar to the way glucose is a storage. When you eat enough glucose, your body doesn't use it. What does it do with it? I mean, if it's a lot, it can store it as fat, but that's kind of wasteful. What it wants to do first is use it for immediate use, and that would be going to your liver and storing it as glycogen. So that when you're not eating and you're sleeping, that your liver has a supply of glucose because that brain again, that energy, right? If you don't have glucose, you're dead. You are literally dead in seconds.

I don't care how much you're fasting or how much ketones you're making or ingesting as a supplement exogenously. You'll be dead. Yes, ketones supply energy to the brain. they're a co-factor but they are not the sole source if you don't have sugar molecules in your brain you are dead there's no way around and to prove it give anyone in that dose of insulin and they'll die because it drops the sugar levels too high or too low and you're dead you'll go into hypoglycemicoma and your brain stops working that's not a good thing that's why we have these they're called stress hormone

responses like glucagon adrenaline and cortisol that catalyze the formation of glucose. So if someone's foolishly fast for a week, which I don't think is a good idea for most people, I usually think it was good, but now I know it's not because I've learned from Dr. Ray Pete's work, who's passed last year, or the year before last, that that's not a good idea, because stress hormones are real,

and they keep you alive, but when you're chronically activating your stress hormones and producing the emotional stress, which was your first question, then it could be problematic. So actually fasting could contribute to those emotional stressors. You know, it's not necessarily the best thing for you. And I would be very cautious about recommending fasting. I don't know if you're still involved in keto or low carb or intermittent fasting.

No, no, you know what? I've never just, I've never recommended keto for long-term use. I've never. It's smart. Yeah, yeah, because of that very same thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's a stress hormone to do it.

You know, because it's all boils down to the brain eating sugar. There's no way around it. and if you're not ingesting it, as you should, because most people need, I would say a minimum 150 grams of sugar a day, glucose, sugar. And the best form is, what would you say the best form of sugar is if you're to get that? Well, I'm a huge blueberry fan, but, you know. Well, that's the right answer, not necessarily blueberries. But blueberries is sort of a, because there's a lot of good polyphenols.

And if you have a healthy gut, those polyphenols are actually very beneficial to improve gut health. But if you don't have a healthy gut, as most people don't. They don't have a health. Then blueberries can be problematic, highly problematic. Because there's fibers in there and the fibers are digested. When you have an unhealthy gut, you have a predominance of pathogenic bacteria. Gram negative facultative aneroves that embedded in their cell walls is endotoxin or lipopolysaccharide LPS. And when they are fed and fertilized and grow and die, that endotoxin is a potent,

with poison just suppresses metacontrial function and large doses can kill you from septic shock. And that does happen to many people every year because they die endotoxin toxicity because they're because they've got microbiome imbalance. So that's in paradox because some fruits can be dangerous if you're if you have an unhealthy gut. So it all depends. It all depends. But your fruit I believe is as a healthiest carbohydrate you could possibly eat. And I eat like four pounds of watermelon in the morning and I have oranges and apples throughout the day. So I'm a big fan of fruit. And I think most people take it need 150 grams going to 50 gram low carb is, you know, prescription for disaster in my viewpoint. And many people believe that and follow that. But I would

encourage them to reconsider and follow some of repeat's work about the stress hormones. But, you know, I think most people benefit from hires. I'm personally floating around 400, 450 grams of carbohydrates a day. So I feel really good with it. And I, you know, my, I guess what I measured my insulin like every two weeks or so. Guess what it was last time? You won't believe it. It was unmeasurable. It was less than 0.4. Wow. Now, that's pretty exceptional with 450 grams of carbs a day. So clearly it's not causing insulin resistance in me because that is the best metric for metabolic flexibility is a fasting insulin. It should be below 3. None of the people of 0.4 are unmeasurable. And I don't know, I think Quest doesn't even, they only go to below two, but LabCorp does have a lower threshold sensitivity.

And they go to, I didn't know. I actually beat that for the first time. I never got down below 0.4, which is interesting. So, it's low. Have you measured your fasting insulin? You know what? Not for years. I did years ago.

It was low, too. Yeah, I measured it is. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty low. I, you know, this is why, now it's been years. I use one of those continuous blood glucose. Yeah, CGMs. Yeah, and that was so interesting, you know,

because there were certain things that I thought, I want to give an example of this. I, there were certain foods, there were certain fruits that really caused my, my numbers to jump a little bit more. But then, for instance, just give an example, potatoes, my body acted like I could eat potatoes all day and it didn't seem to affect it.

Yeah, yeah. Potatoes actually is a decent. If you have a healthy gut, it's particularly good. Potatoes and rice. You want to cook them, though, really well. You don't want to even know. They're very toxic. So you have to cook them really well. Ideally, the best way to cook potatoes and boil them in a pressure cooker and they'll cook them pretty well. Or rice, too. Same thing. White rice, not brown rice.

Yeah, yeah. I'm curious, I'm going to recall, you know, when I first heard you lecture, you talked a lot about vitamin D and you've promoted and talked about so many different nutrients over the years. Today, where you stand, what do you believe are the top nutritional deficiencies we currently have today? Vitamin D is one, but it's not a vitamin deficiency, it's a sun deficiency. It's a marker, it's a biomarker for sun exposure, essentially. And unless you're taking a supplement, then it's not. But the initial studies, the epidemiological studies that showed all the benefits of sun exposure

and the massive impact it had on autoimmune diseases like like MS, would be a classic example, really well documented. And people weren't doing vitamin D testing or even. taking supplements until I started that. I can'talize that. I don't know if you know, remember that. I believe it. I was me.

I was the one who was herald shouting from the rooftops that vitamin D is a big issue because I believe in sun exposure and I've continued that belief. But, you know, I remember you getting so much flak. Listen, I remember you getting so much flack from people saying there's this crazy doctor saying, you know, we should we should get direct sunlight and exposure and not, you know, the toxic sunscreen on our skin. And I remember you getting a hard time. for but then the entire medical community adopted what you've been preaching for 10 years so yes

well actually close to two decades because i started recommending in shortly 2000s it's 2024 it's almost a quarter century yeah so you know i'm very grateful it's one of my massive biggest to date clinical achievements is to help the community understand the importance of vitamin d you know because they got a big platform people read it and they pass it around and it's hard to stop information like that from going around and it did it people start and they regularly test it but and actually uh i'm in the process that you ever i don't know if you read the mitochondrial research but there's a assay called the seahorse assay have you ever i haven't read that one no you should i'd love to hear about it it's it's the gold standard for

measuring mitochondrial function or respiration it's a complex series of assays very difficult to do the equipment is not very expensive but it's the it's a very tedious assay and and You couldn't freeze a sample so that it was very difficult. It would cost thousands of dollars to do one test. It's not available in any lab. It's a research tool only. So I actually am working with a company and acquired a patent from UCLA, or at least license, rather, to advance that technology so that we can commercially assay that and prove some of my theories. Because it's basically a research tool that you can document a person's mitochondrial function.

You can implement an intervention and do pre and post and see the differences in how the mitochondrial. working in real really define it objectively not just oh yeah your mitochondria better well we can measure it you can actually measure it so that's pretty pretty interesting we're get some of the research i'm doing later this year written papers on it but getting back to the neutral other nutrient deficiencies because i do seek to honor and to answer your questions commit to that certainly vitamin d is one but again not to take a supplement i haven't taken vitamin d in coming up on 20 years. Yeah, maybe 15, 15, 16, but it's coming up on 20. Some of it's some of it'll be 20 years. I just don't take vitamin D supplements. And throughout most of the summer last year, my vitamin D was

in triple Divers. Wow. What do you believe the normal range should be for vitamin D? Because I know your recommendations are much higher than the, you know, RDA. Well, 6080 is the goal for most people. But if you're if you're getting it from the sun, there's no concern because you have intrinsic bio or feedback mechanisms which limit it. So, you know, you don't have to worry about it. You know, and lifeguards will tend to get read closer to do. And there's a lot of cofactors to go with them. One of the cofactors, two primarily. One is K2. The other is mangan magnesium. So I take sufficient magnesium. And if you don't have those cofactors, sometimes you can expose the sun it won't work. So that's a good thing to take. Most people are deficient

magnesium. That's probably one and two is vitamin D and magnesium, I would think. And the other one, somewhat related to my previous thing is a food that most people don't. There's two primary foods that people don't get enough of. They're starting to emerge some data now that suggests that baking supplements like glycine, which I'm sure have heard of, is really useful. And it's useful for a darn good reason because it's one of the three primary amino acids in collagen. And it's the smallest amino acid. And collagen is in connective tissue, like skin, hair, nails, tendons, ligaments. That's what it's made. It's been bones. There's a big significant component of collagen and bones. It's just, it's an extracellular matrix that supports your tissues.

It keeps you standing and moving and it gives your body structure, essentially. And if you don't get enough, you're not going to, you cannot build healthy collagen if you just have meat. It won't work. There's not enough of those rate limit amino acids. There's three. Glycine is one, Proline and then hydroxyproline, which has a lot to do with the research I'm working at. It's hydroxyproline forms a very magical function in the body that I will reveal later this year. But those are the three magic amino acids, and they are repeating structure within collagen, and it actually forms a triple helix. And a very special sauce, what happens with a triple helix.

And I've kind of identified what that is. But essentially, if you're not eating connective tissue, and most of us don't. And most of us have stopped eating jello as a dessert in the 50s and 60s. I mean, you can still buy jello, but now it's a perversion. It's not what it used to be, but which is just gelatin. And gelatin and collagen are almost identical. gelatin is a little more processed. Collin is a little typically a bit healthier.

And you can make collagen. The idea way to get collagen is by making it. And that most people make it, I started with, I'm sure you've heard of Matasha McCambell. Oh, yeah. Campbell McBride. That's it, Madasha Campbell McBride. She was, she's a neurologist, had an autistic child, and popular as a dikech called the Gapstite. And the big portion of the Gapstit was bone broth.

And I tried to make it back then. It was in the early 2000s. And it's such a pain. You've got to cook the bones for 72 hours. Who's got time to cook bones for 72 hours? I learned and they figured out others that figured it us too, but there's a much simpler, more efficient and quicker way to do it. You have any guess on how to do it.

You might. You're pretty smart. A faster way to make bone broth? Yes. Well, you can do a pressure cooker. That's it. I knew you'd. Yeah.

Yeah, pressure cooker. Yeah. Four hours. If you have organic grass-fed bones and the best are beef, beef is the best. I would be careful of chicken bones because the fattened chickens, unless you're raising chickens based on a protocol developed by Ashley Armstrong and is being spread across the country, and I'm helping her with that. And actually having a brand of eggs called golden nuggets because they are one-fourth to one-fifth, maybe even one-sixth, less linoleic acid than a normal egg. In other words, you can eat six of her eggs and you have as much lina-lake acid as in one of the commercial egg.

that much lower reduction. And it doesn't matter if LA is from a healthy food like eggs, it's still dangerous. And when quantities exceed a certain threshold, which is typical about two grams a day, certainly more than five grams a day. And almost everyone now is getting 10, 15, 20 grams a day. So once you get over four or five grams,

you reach a threshold where you're increasing your risk for almost every disease, especially cancer. I think that's cancer and estrogen and linoleic acid and endotoxone, are the three primary causes of cancer because they all destroy metabolic function and they cause this when your mitochondria don't work you have to resort to a primitive form to create energy anerovic fermentation so that's creation of cellular energy not in the mitochondria but in the cytosol in a cytoplasm in a primitive pathway called glycolysis and that's not efficient at all and generates

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and if you order before April 2nd, you'll get an exclusive to my three-part mindset master class, also a 12-week workbook, also numerous other bonuses that are worth hundreds of dollars to help you think this, not that, an experience that breakthrough you've been waiting for. Yeah. Well, it's so interesting what you're saying, you know, I, there is a company that I work with, they do blood work, and they had told me, and they test, you know, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people.

And they said, when they were looking at the deficiencies, the most common ones, the top three micronutrients were vitamin D, magnesium, and I want to say the third was zinc. It could be, yeah, for sure. Those were the, so you're spot on with what you're sharing, and then again, collagen we know, and you know what's so interesting. There's one more, I want to mention. It's in healthy eggs only, and actually we're going to make a form of this that doesn't exist because there is no healthy supplement for this nutrient.

So do not take this supplement as a nutrient. You have to take this food, and the only food that's high in is, eggs. Egg yolk, not the whites. I do not recommend eating egg whites. I do not eat egg whites. I only eat egg yolks. The whites are loaded with tryptophan, which is a precursor of serotonin. Serotonin is not your friend in high levels. You do not want excess serotonin. So the nutrient I was referring to is coline. Almost everyone's efficient in colin, colonin and collagen. And unless you're eating egg yolks, you're not going to get it. I mean, you need like four or five hundred milligrams a day.

and egg yolk even one egg yolk when he's 125 but that's the highest form of of source of coline I mean you can get in liver but the amount of delivery would you get toxic in some of the the oil salt the fat-sival vitamins like vitamin A so the best source is egg yolks and that's why I think almost everyone would benefit from healthy eggs but if you got the LA it's like you're putting a rock in a hard place you know you but you can't I personally raise my own chickens I have 25 chickens wow And I have a guard dog to protect against the predator. So, yeah, but because I've, I've had like over 50, 60 chickens killed by predators. That is a problem.

Because they're so hard. They're so, they're so, they have no defenses. They're just like dessert. Yeah, yeah. And it's good dessert by predators because they're very low L.A. They just, I don't give them hardly any L.A. It's like, it's very similar to astrocyx because they use her formula to feed them. So that's good.

So we were talking about nutrients, and I forgot where I left off. It was zinc you mentioned. Well, yeah, and you were talking about coline and the incredible benefits there. Yeah. Yeah, coline is a precursor for acetylcholine, which is neurotransmitter for the parasympathetic nervousism. Most of us doesn't function well. So, yeah, and it has a wide variety of other functions.

But your health is going to be challenged if you're not. It actually is a, I think, forms of phospholipid, too. which is important for structural function and other metabolic or biochemical characteristics, or not characteristics, but functions that we have. So, coline is, you want to be really careful. And there's nutrient trackers like chronometer that you can use the input that are free, and you just input your food, and it'll tell you how much you're getting. So you don't have to guess.

You can look at these foods. And you can look at your protein constituents too. So, you know, although Pronomer doesn't do well for measuring, They'd only put the essential aminoes, and glycine is not considered an essential amino acid, but it should be. It's kind of a misnomer, really, because it's by their definition what they consider. Yes, it's essential if your body can make it, but if you can't make it in sufficient quantities you're required for health, then it becomes essential, which happens with glycine.

Even though your body makes glycine, it can't make enough because your requirement is so high that you have to get it and you're diet. Otherwise, you're not going to be healthy. You cannot make enough glycine to be healthy. It's impossible. You know, one of the things that myself and Jordan, Rubin, we've talked about this a few times when we started really getting into bone broth and using it and looking at how much of our body's made up of these collagen proteins. It's like one third. One third of the proteins.

That is a mind-bending fact. And congratulations to you for knowing that because most people don't. But here's my question for you. I want to get your thoughts on this is that, you know, I remember when Dr. Sears came out with this and you were sharing this around the same time, you were the first two people I heard say this in terms of these omega ratios, right? We need more omega-3s. Are the omega-6s are way too high that's causing inflammation? Do you think there's a similar phenomena, a similar aspect to balancing out your collagen proteins and more of these? No question. Absolutely. Yes, and that's well documented. You can just look up the literature, the excess of certain. amino acids in meat like methanine amethylene serotonin or triptophan and then i read another study that decreases in longevity but if you're bouncing out with collagen then it's okay yeah yeah because i read another

study so it was like methionine d could decrease your lifespan but glycine could increase your lifespan right but there's also histine and there's tryptophan so these are things that you do not want you need some yes you absolutely need some but you when you go excess and you eat just to all meat diet Like carnivore, not a good idea unless you're eating the connective tissue. Some people do, they eat the bone broth. And that's the easiest way to get it. It's a bone broth. And make it in a, oh, this is a pearl for you because you probably don't know this.

But if you have a pet, you should. You can go to butcher, preferably a butcher from a grass-fed organic cow and get what's called the knuckle bone. Have you ever heard of the knuckle? We probably haven't. It's not a knuckle. It's actually a butcher term for the hip bone or the knee bone. It's a joint. and they're about the size.

You can hold it with two hands. It's not huge. It's probably weighs, I don't know, two to four pounds, depending on the size of the animal. And you could take one of those bones and put it into pressure cooker, fill it up the water up to above the bone, and then turn it on for four hours if it's an organic grass-fed cow. If it's not organic, then you only do it for two hours

because you're going to leach out some crap out of the bones that you don't want. So the four hours is better, but, you know, only if it's a healthy animal. and then you let it cool down. And here's the key that's sometimes forgotten is that once it's cooled down, you put it in the refrigerator overnight or in the freezer, if you're going to do it an hour or two, and then you skim off the fat. Skim off the fat.

You don't want to keep the fat in there. And then you've got bone broth. That's like some of the best bone right that you can get. You can't buy bone with that good, fresh and made from healthy bones. I mean, that's the perfect bone broth. And that bone, if you want to get, If you want to have healthy pets, that's another passion of mine, is because virtually every pet food that's sold is going to decrease your pet's lifespan by almost 50%.

50%. It's just, it's worse than human nutrition. And they've bastardized the rules to prevent any other company from competing. And prevent them literally makes it illegal to put good foods in there, like animal fats. Yeah. You know, so you have to make it. make your own. And it's pretty easy to do. You can just give them, the diet for cats or for bones, I mean for dogs is bones, raw bones, not cook bones, raw bones, and meat. Yeah. Bones are full of connective tissue. So they don't have to worry about eating the meat, but they'll eat the fat too. And they get the connected. So they got the perfect balance. That's literally, and then of course the organs, you know, or liver and heart, but not large amounts.

maybe an ounce or two a day depending on the size of the dog and um and that is the perfect they're literally eating nose to tail they're eating all the connective tissue they're eating the muscle meat and they're eating the organs and that is a prescription for health and the bones and if you don't give your dog bones they'll have dentals okay and they and they have mommy have to have their teeth pulled because they're rotting because the bones are what's required to clean the dental plaque from from their teeth and when you give them bones like you have every day, they will have the cleanest teeth and they'll never have dental disease. Yeah.

It's amazing. And, you know, that's what they need. And, you know, so I know it's not human tantrum, but a lot of people have pets. I want to ask you one more question about pets. When you think about pets and you think about, obviously, the food, feeding them raw, as you talked about, real food, what are some of the other things? If there is one supplement that a dog would need, that dogs tend to be deficient. And what are the top one or two that you see?

The top one, they only want to give my dog. Yeah. Egg shells, crushed eggshells, a half a teaspoon. Really? Why? Calcium. What, yeah. Calcium. And calcium, if you, we're actually going to make a product out of this.

But crushed eggshells from healthy chickens actually have collagen. The, and the membrane inside. Yeah. So, but you can dry them and crush them up in a, you know, coffee grinder or a bigger mixer if you have a more and you and you can have the best calcium supplement out there and you just put them the food they'll eat it it's and it does all is release calcium carbonate primarily and highly a bar absorbable and guess what else it is it's a trace mineral supplement go figure yeah and guess the only problem is it costs too much

yeah three well three exactly yeah so that would be the supplement i give them and yeah technically it's not a supplement it's a food isn't there is they're eating the eggshells uh and i don't do not feed my pet the whites at all. I just give them the yolks. Yeah, because they need, they just like we do, they need the coling. So I probably, my chickens, I had some problems with them. So they're not, I'm only given two a day, but I'm going to give them six a day pretty soon, six yolks. Wow.

Amazing. He's a big dog. It's going to be 150 pounds. You know, well, one of the things that I've been, I've admired so much about you for so long, Dr. McCull, is that you've always been very outspoken. You know, whether it is the COVID pandemic or the pharmaceutical companies using Roundup years ago or the over-prescription of medications, you've always been the first person I can think of to speak out against these people with really no fear. I'm curious to get your thoughts. I want to go to Roundup in some of these chemical, the insecticides, the pesticides, what are some things people need to be aware of when it comes to these chemicals? what are some of the side effects and what are some of the things people can do in terms of just consciously avoiding them?

Okay, that's a good question. But I can acknowledge, thank you for the comment on the fear, I happen to be allergic to fear. I'm allergic to fear. And that's because fear is a thought that resides in your mind. And we run into serious problems if we're in our mind all the time because that's a thimble of knowledge compared to the ocean of influence. It's available outside of that. And when you access that, there is no fare there. None, zero.

When you connect to your consciousness or some people call spirit or energy, it's just not there, there is no fear. So it's easy to do these things if you're in that space. And I tend to spend a lot of time there. So that's what I enjoy doing. Yeah. So with respect to the roundup, it's interesting. Glyphosate, it sounds familiar, glycine.

Well, glyphosate is glycine with phosphates on it, as well, it is. So there are some scientists like Stephanie Seneff who speculate that it is a substitution into the amino acid because it's there, it's present, and it gets plugged in to the DNA sequence or the RNA that is the instructions to make the proteins, right? The transcription of the proteins. And that could be a problem. Some others suggest hysteric hindrance or just the physical characteristics of the size of the molecule may be a problem, but it clearly it's a metabolic poison. It's it's it's it should not be in your body and you did. Fortunately, there's very simple and easy ways to avoid it. One is, you know, certainly would be make sure you get enough connected tissue would be ideally or take glycine.

If that hypothesis is correct, then you know, you'll have a sufficiency of glycine will prevent it being integrated that the glyphsate molecule being integrated into your proteins. Secondly, is to just avoid GMOs. And sometimes that's hard, especially with grains, because many grains like wheat would be the classic example. It's not a GMO grain, but they use it to dry the wheat and they don't even have to put it on the label. So when they cut it down and harvest it, the easiest way for them to do is spray glyphosite on it. Wow. So unless it's organic wheat, it's going to have, be most likely glyphosate.

So it's pervasive. You know, if you're healthy, you get sun exposure and you do sauna. It would be another way to help detox it out of your body. I do a sauna three days a week. I've been doing right before this interview. And I think it's a good practice to get into. If you run, I used to be a runner. And during those days, I didn't need to take a sauna because really the reason sauna works

is it causes sweat. And when you sweat, you excrete the toxins. So if you're sweating regularly, you don't need a sauna, but most of us don't. And since I stopped running, gosh, it's almost a quarter century ago, I need a sauna. And I think most people, unless they're doing cardio, they're sweating all day, they need to do a sauna, benefit from it. Yeah, yeah, that's great. So one thing that, again, I've noticed that you've done over the years is you've been very advanced in terms of some of the tech and doing some different, everything from you were one of the first people to talk about infrared saunas. and, you know, using things like this for our health, hyperbaric chambers, you know, you had talked

about many years ago. I've explored some things that I later find out may not be as good as I thought. Hyperbaric chambers were one of them. They have their utility for sure. They helped a lot of people, but it's not a great innovation as I initially believed. So there are other simpler ones, you know, one of the best. You know, what do you think about what I've been exercising since 1968, Josh? That's a long time.

That's 56 years. That's a lot, it's half a century, more than half a century. So what do you think I've concluded is the best exercise? I'm going to guess weight training. No, you're guessing correctly. It's not, it's a useful exercise and it's something I do engage in. But interesting, there was a study published in July of last year out of the University of Minnesota. Walking.

Yeah, walking. It's walking. Walking because it's a moderate exercise. We're exercising. it's actually toxic and you can see that by the people who body build you know they tend to die early a lot of people a lot of them there's these are not people who live in to be sent inarians typically so does that mean you shouldn't do no you just have to do it wisely and wisely is like less than two hours a week and i was there were days i was actually working out two hours a day you know i got

to be pretty buff too i mean especially for someone 70 so uh you know it definitely does work and here's value you don't want to be sarcopenic and you get older but on the other hand you don't want to stress your body that much. And walking doesn't. The studies that was published last year showed pretty clear. I actually interviewed the author of the study. He was a male clinic fellow, I think. And he found that there was no J-cur for walking. In other words, the more you walk, the better benefit you got. It was actually like a 40% decrease in mortality with just walking. Wow. Just walking. But you got to do it. You know, and then you build the thing about walking, it doesn't have to be all at once. In fact, it's probably better if you break it up. The more you break it up, the better.

So you can do a two-hour walk, and you can do, just say an hour walker, you can do four, 15-minute walks, you know, that four-fifteen minutes would be better, 100% better, because your body likes to break it up during the day. You don't want to be static, you know, I'll say. So walking would be the best, for sure. Resistance training is good, flexibility training. I'm actually developing a few things, developing something called 22nd century medicine. And a subdivision is that 22nd century year. which is a mobility movement, actually mobility medicine is what I'm calling it. And I release some of my first chapters on the site next week.

You would know that's your chiropractor. How many, what percentage of population has adult population, has cervical problems, neck issues? Make a guess. I mean, at what age, just the general population? No, adults, adults, adults, not neck kids. 70%? close you're pretty sharp Josh now 80% yeah that's a lot that's a lot that is a lot no you don't

see patients now but when you were you saw a lot of neck problems yes so there are simple things you can do sunlight being one of them and exercises mobility movements because typically yoga doesn't address the neck they don't I mean some maybe there's some the ribbons of yoga that do but they typically don't dress the neck and that's 80% of the problem you know cervical degenerate disease is real and pervasive. So, you know, I've developed, it's actually an article in publishing I think it's next week. Yeah, I think it is next week. Yeah, and I integrate things like active isolated stretching and something I innovated. I called the circle eight or so it's using infinity symbol and moving your neck neck in a infinity symbol. Doing that in conjunction with

neuroferred light on your cervical spine. So, you know, this is 22nd century yoga. I created. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, because you, the goal, the goal, so what are the metrics of health, right? How do you know you're reversing biological age? It's an interesting question because I can assure you that DNA methylation is not the answer. It's confusion and it gives you false information. But it's pretty simple. What are the biological functions of humans?

And you age parameter to that. So wouldn't it be, would you consider yourself less biologically old if you had the mobility of a child? Yeah. Wouldn't you? I mean, it's pretty, or if you could see as well as a child, or if you could hear, or if you could taste, or you can smell as well. So it's your biology that gives you the clues, and you can measure these things. So those are the metrics that need to be done to determine biological age.

And then mitochondrial function too, would be another more, even more fundamental one. So the metrics that longevity medicine has are bullshit, essentially. They're almost meaningless, almost meaningful. Yeah. And another metric is grip strength. Do you ever measure your grip strength? No, you know what, though? I'd read that.

The only way I've done that is through, I read a study on this a couple years ago. And so one of the things I started doing was just hanging from a pull-up bar. So I get up to about two minutes. You nailed this. That's definitely part of mobility messing for sure. How long are you hanging for? I'm up to like two minutes. Wow.

Congratulations. That's an A-plus. Yeah, the only reason I, now, so let me tell you, I had a, great dad growing up my dad uh he was an old military guy he was a great guy but he before i was alive so yeah he's in his 70s they live in florida they they're yeah great people but before i walked in from the garage he put in a pull-up bar and he said i want you to do pull-ups every every day before you walk in the door so i mean i was able at one point to almost 30 pull-ups so i actually had a little bit advantage yeah now this was when i was 18 years old that was impressive nevertheless i can't do that anymore

Over 20 is like world class almost, you know, it's really hard to get over 20 because it's you, you lose the energy to do it. I mean, obviously, you know, muscles do it, but you just don't have enough, you can't create enough energy to do it. That's fantastic. Now many people, there's very few people who could have ever done 30 pull-ups at once. Very few. Yeah, yeah, well, that's my, that's my, that's my, the one thing I can, you know, probably the one

physical sort of area, I could, I could, I could, I could have bragged about. But that's all thanks to my dad for sure. Well, thank you. Yeah, your dad, our parents are, you know, the parents, it's very rare to have two parents that love you. But if you do, it's you very well, your dad obviously did. Both, yeah. And your mom did too.

Then you're a set. There's only one person out of 50 who has that privilege. Only one. I happen to have it too. So both of my parents love me tremendously through the roof. And that allows you to function in the culture to do things that are extraordinary. Now, you can get that benefit. that by yourself, but it's really hard.

It's really hard. It's actually a big portion of what I'm doing with the book that I've written is helping people understand it and implement strategies to connect back to their consciousness and spirit. Because this is a big thing. One of the ways is to be biologically healthy, for sure. You know, improve mitochondrial side of their energy production because the energy we're producing our mitochondria is almost identical to the energy we came from.

It's a mind-bending concept, but it's true. and the energy that we ultimately return to is almost identical. And we create that in our bodies when we're alive. And then when we pass, we return to energy. But it's interesting, it's a similar type of energy, almost identical. Wow. And one of the ways, you know, so by engaging in that production, not only do you improve your biological health,

but you improve your spiritual health and your ability to connect your consciousness and you have access to resources and wisdom that is not available in your mind, just isn't, because your mind is usually polluted with brainwashing propaganda, typically. Yeah. Typically in our culture. Yeah. Yeah.

It's so true. You know, one of the things, one of the last things I'll just say. No, no. Let me just mention this because I want to mention it for you, is that I would go to Amazon and look up a dynamometer. They cost about $25, and you can measure your grip strength. I'll bet you you're close to 60 kilograms. This is about maybe 130 pounds.

If you can tank for two minutes, you're about 130 pounds. I can, I can, mind, I'm about 125, 128 pounds or 50. I think it was almost 60. I was like 58.8 kilograms. But they're 25 bucks. You know, because you think, oh, this is like $400 instrument, and I want to how to interpret it. It's a digital instrument. You turn it on and you go, just press it.

Then you'll know your grip strength. But grip strength, it is clearly associated with, it's probably one of the most powerful ones associated with longevity, very accurate. And because you cannot do this. You have to strong muscles, but you have to be able to create cellular energy to do that. So congratulations.

Two minutes is phenomenal. Most people, they will have trouble getting to 30 seconds. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I was reading, yeah, especially over 60, the number is extremely low. It really starts to. Yeah, I can get to two minutes. minutes pretty regularly but it's not easy it's not easy it's definitely a feat you know there's not

many seven-year-olds they can do that oh yeah there's some but i've actually done three minutes if i cheat and by cheating you can put liquid sticky stuff on it and you're just like glued to the yeah they're glued to the bar that's funny that's so good well i'm i am i'm incredibly impressed you know one of the last things i want to just share is is that you know you've done such an amazing job in something you had referenced earlier, and that is, and I want to give a quote of this, and you've heard this before, but, you know, John D. Rockefeller said, I don't want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers.

And so one of the things I think that more and more people, I do feel like going through this COVID pandemic, there were a lot of people that were asleep. And most haven't woken up, but a lot more have. I think a lot more people are aware now because they just, tried to force things on us. It's such a strong way. And I think that most people don't think, I think Carl Jung, the famed psychologist, said, most people don't think, it's hard. That's why most people don't do it. But one of the things that you've really inspired so many people to do is be able to think. And you were one of the first people who I remember who said, well, you asked that,

you know, a way to get to the truth is to ask why again and again and again and again to where you get to the Rue. And so you've done such a phenomenal job of just being able to do that. with people. And so one of the last questions I have for you is, how have you or how do you recommend people that listen to this? How do you recommend that they learn to think? How do you recommend they learn to start to get to the root of the issues like you have done? Because again, you've really been able to do this to get to the root of the problems really earlier than so many people. Well, I think it's a great question and it's not a simple answer, but it's just what goes back to the basics and the ones I mentioned earlier in our conversation is that you have to have

cellular energy production if you don't have energy you your brain is not functioning you can't think you really need power and energy and you get it from food avoiding linoleic acid which is a mitochondrial poison keep your intake below two grams a day there's a there's a there's a an important video I created and actually I could announce here but But on this Sunday, all our articles come back from behind the paywall and substack. So that is available for anyone to live. Yeah. So we're making me decided to do that and bring them back.

But you can look at that video for the details because the devil's in the details. We get low linoleic acid and get to connect to, you know, that helps to connect your consciousness. Because if you're in your mind and you're listening to brainwashing propaganda and you're watching TV, the news, which is one of the worst things you can do that will perpetuate fear. if you're on social media. So you want to disengage from that completely and identify sources that are telling the truth, at least as far as you can perceive, because sometimes it's really difficult. But at least the information you're consuming is not obvious propaganda because almost anything from conventional media, New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC.

That's all just government propaganda, nothing but pure propaganda. And it may be true, but probably. more likely than not true. It's definitely pushing an agenda. So if you get that data input minimized and you are healthy, then you'll be able to connect better to your consciousness and really activate that because you can have the best brain out there. But if you are metabolically damaged and it does, you don't have the energy to think is, that's the first step. You have to have fuel in the tank. You have to have fuel intake. And then X, you know, what are the other things? Walking every day, you know, sleeping well. This isn't not rocket size at all. There are some really powerful

innovations you can do that are thanks to technology, but you've got to have the basics first, walking, sun exposure, no linoleic acid, you know, no processed foods essentially, which, you know, replicating ancestral practices. And when you do that, stay away from the brainwashing propaganda and connect to valid sources of truth and wisdom. You know, you're golden and you'll self-corrhaling, and you'll think because you'll be you'll be inputting data that's closer to truth than listening to the lies essentially so good well dr mccola i want to say thanks so much for coming on and share your wisdom thank you so i mean there are so many people that i think most people recognize this for anyone that's followed you but you've inspired so many people in the space to start

to take control of their health yeah you know how many that is we had it measured it's hundreds of millions wow hundreds of millions but you know what that seems like a lot and it is but you know, we're not finished because the goal is $4 billion. Wow. And I'm pretty confident we're going to reach in the next five years. We've got a strategy. So you're going to see a lot of what I'm doing in the next few months. The book's all about it.

And we've got really big plans. So I'm so excited because what you've heard in this conversation is exactly what people need to hear. And what I'm seeking to implement is strategy so that they can integrate that into their lifestyle easily and facilitated with simple strategy. So because it, the body's the magic. You know, you were taught that in chiro spade. It's innate intelligence, right?

All you have to do is activated. That's all it requires. It's not like rocket science. You just give the body what it needs. It will take care of it. It does not want to go to disease and wants to go to health. Yeah. That's what you're designed to do.

You know, if given what you, what you need, you're going to be healthy. That's, it's your advantage. You just have to stay away from stuff that's going to make it unhealthy. Yeah. Yeah, it's so true. Well, we want to thank every. everybody for listening today. I want to thank again, Dr. Mercola here for sharing all his wisdom today. And be on the lookout for his new book. It'll be coming out here before too long.

So you can go to Amazon or just search for it on his website. It's Mercola.com. But check out his new book. Check out his articles. He's such a wealth of knowledge and wisdom. And I want to say again, thanks so much for just being a pioneer and a trailblazer and just natural health. You've inspired so many people, Dr. McCullough. Thank you. Thanks for the opportunity of a delightful conversation. Appreciate it. Of course. And again, thanks everybody for listening and supporting the show, the ancient health podcast here. If you're not subscribed, make sure to subscribe. And hey, if you enjoyed this, make sure to share it with a friend. Some of the wisdom Dr. McCullough shared today, I truly believe

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