The Dr. Josh Axe Show - You Were Lied To About Seed Oils! The Truth About Butter, Tallow & Olive Oil

Starting point is 00:00:00 Today I'm suddenly one of the Laos food bites on the internet, seed oils, and I'm going to be doing it the way almost nobody does with the actual studies on both sides and the truth about what to cook with instead. Now, in the 70 days and 90s you were sold that seed oils were healthy. In fact, I can remember when my mom tried to get my dad to change over to using the, you know, better than butter, things like margarine, using more than seed oils and, of course, my dad, absolutely refused and said, I'm going to keep eating butter. And we were told that these are the healthiest oils out there. And here's the reality. Sea oils are in your salad dressing, they're in your chips, they're in your restaurant, briar, even in your organic protein bars. And we haven't just cooked with seed oils. We rebuilt our entire food supply and system on seed oils for the last hundred years. Have you ever felt inflamed and can figure out why? Eat and clean and still

Starting point is 00:00:59 felt tired, puffy, and foggy. Here's the honest part. The science is messier than either side of this. So today, we're going to follow the data, whatever it actually leaves. And if no person he's felt in flame, maybe issues with brain fog or just overall, you're feeling like you're aging quickly sea oil could be a cold, but they also might not be as bad as you think, and I'll be settling the debate today. So over the next 30 to 40 minutes, I'm going to walk you through The science in terms of why these fats are so important to even your cell membrane in anti-aging and reversing disease. I'll cover both sides. They're going from Paul Saladino on the carnivore side to blame Norton and other scientist over on this other side. I'll talk about the cooking science.

Starting point is 00:01:47 Okay, smoke points the matter and then I'll do the countdown to the top 10 oils you should be using in ranking order to heal and promote longevity. Welcome to the Dr. Josh action. Is wrapped in a cell membrane of fat. That's right. The primary thing that your cells are made up is fat followed by protein. But your cell membrane is built primarily of fat and secondarily of protein. And if you eat stable fats, you build resilient cells.

Starting point is 00:02:37 If you eat fragile fats, you build fragile cells that oxidize more easily, and this is really important. What happens with a lot of these fatty acids today is they can be somewhat resilient, become more fragile, overcome. We can break them down and process them. And so, for example, here's how this works. Here is how industrial seed oils are actually made. Number one, solvent extraction. Okay, seeds are crushed and washed in a chemical contextane into petroleum solvent.

Starting point is 00:03:08 And they did this to squeeze every drop of oil we can out of whatever seed work, whatever, were friendly extract from. The next thing we do is we'd be gum and blatant deodorized. And this is why when you smell these oils, they don't smell like the food. You know, soybean oil doesn't smell like soybean, right? So you have this crude oil is highly refined, and drip apart chemicals,

Starting point is 00:03:32 and then we apply heat to, like it, deodorized it, or remove any sort of smell of it's left. This also can give it a longer shelf life. And then we put it in restaurants. So this is how it works. So it is highly profit when we're talking about these industrialized seed oils. Now, the real question is this. Are seed oils healthy or not healthy?

Starting point is 00:03:55 Well, let me say this. Generally, they're not the healthiness. We know that as a fact. There's definitely not the healthiest oils you can be using. What the conversation is, though, today, when you see somebody that is in line with Make America Healthy again or the carnivore diet or paleo or traditional, diet, they would tend to promote doing a lot of beef,

Starting point is 00:04:18 pallow, and butter, and saying anything, they're totally fine, okay? And they're healthy, they're healthy as much as you want. That's what we hear from one side. And then you this other side, it's more mainstream conventional medicine. And they will say that, no, seed oils are fine. They're generally healthy, they promote our power, and they have really pushed back saying, no, these seed oils are healthier than a lot of these animal fats.

Starting point is 00:04:42 So let's dive into what the science does. Okay. So the first year is here is the case for seed abortion. Okay. So they're not so bad. Okay. In large cohort studies, these are very large studies. When you look at the highest intake versus lowest intake of what we call LA,

Starting point is 00:04:58 Linoleic acid, the main oil, found into seed oil today, okay? Those who had more seed oils, had 15% lower risk of cardiovascular deaths and 21% lower heart disease. Okay, so overall they have lower deaths. And so overall when they were looking at, hey, did people eat more or less seed oils? The seed oil is through to you or even more of these at lower heartening. Okay, so that's the case for seed oil. Listen, a lot of times things are processed and they don't lose all of their benefits. And so what's happening here is you've got a soy bean with the first of the food, but we put it in that category. But you have soybee oil and you have cottonseed oil and canola oil, dafflower.

Starting point is 00:05:41 sunflower or you have all these oils, they're high omega-6 fat. And you probably know this, but you omega-6 and omega-3-1-8 balance, right? So it's very, very high-o-meged. And so then they take that oil, they process it, and refine it down, and then that's what we're getting in these seed oils if you get into fasting restaurants, but we're cooking with at home often times. Okay, so, so, so, so, but there is a case for fee oils that it isn't as bad as we thought. Now here's the case against seed oil, okay?

Starting point is 00:06:09 There is data, really, really large heart studies out of the British Medical Journal in 2013, found that swapping saturated fats and doing sass flower oil instead raised all-caused heart-you-bastular disease and deaths. So there are some studies, large-scale studies showing that this is worse for you if you get rid of your saturated fat and start doing sacked fowl oil instead. It's that's very fast to be somebody getting rid of their butter primarily. It's probably using a study secondarily and they've eaten some of beef tallows. And then we have another case against seed oils, and that is omega-6 specific meta-analysis studies. When you separate pure omega-6 trials from mixed omega-3-6 trials to pure omega-6 transport farm.

Starting point is 00:07:00 And so here's what the studies show. My mind, they're really commonly studies showing like grass-fed feed powder or extra virgin olive oil comparison. The comparison is this. Butter versus seed oil. So primarily the largest you get would be butter versus soybean oil. What they found is when people consume more seed oil and less butter, lower rates of mortality, lower rate of dementia, and lower rates of cardiovascular disease. Now, I do want to point out this is not necessarily grass-fed butter. raw butter, the highest quality money.

Starting point is 00:07:34 This is just conventional butter versus conventional heat oils. Seed oils win according to the data. Now, the thing I want to call out here is this does not mean that seed oils are healthy. This just means that seed oils might be healthier for the average person than conventional butter. If you've been exposed to hidden toxins in your food, water, air, and even cookware, which almost 100% of us have, they could be wreaking havoc on your cells. Cellular toxicity is real and most doctors aren't running the right tests to catch what's actually going on. This new test flips the script.

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Starting point is 00:09:15 it does make sense that for some people, seed oils might be healthier than butter, because butter is more dampening and it slows down the system more than something like soybean oil, even though it's highly refined process. And right now in this little debate, we have two people that are pretty smart people. Lane Norton's a PhD who, by the way, is very good at breaking down large-scale studies. He tends to migrate toward the largest scale studies with the largest data points, especially in most recent years, which is generally one of the best ways to look at data. We have Paul Saladino, who is really one of the pioneers in this art of board diet,

Starting point is 00:09:54 who kind of breaks down things in isolation and looks at them that way. But also at the same time, he's trying to use more traditional methods and common sense for coming to the truth. And here's their take on things. So, Lane Norton says that seed oils are not uniquely harmful. It argues that when you are doing the right amount of calories, all right, in controlled conditions, seed oils don't outperform other fats and causing harm. He said, in fact, you make lower LDL and cardiovascular risks, And so what he's saying from a scientific evidence standpoint,

Starting point is 00:10:32 a book of a large body of data, I think he's right. By the way, he is really brilliant and breaking down studies. One of the best people have ever seen and actually looking at data and explaining why the data says where it does. Okay. But the thing that I do think that I always try and do, and I wish more people in the conventional scientific community would do as well, is don't just look at the science of the evidence.

Starting point is 00:10:54 You want to look at it. Okay, listen, that's very important, the whole body of evidence. But in addition, do some common sense in question, for instance, okay, is olive oil in the study, is that skewing things? Or here's a big one, the food system, in the agricultural system, and some of our scientific data, is biased in some way? We know it's pharmaceuticals. This is the occasion a great amount of time, and I think in the food industry, there's a lot of love that as well. But I do think at this point that seed oils aren't as bad as some people. say, but they aren't bad. That's the thing. He wouldn't want to focus on those. And Paul Saladino,

Starting point is 00:11:34 he's a medical doctor, who I believe lived in Costa Rica. He's gone on the show once before, and he argues that sea oils are a mitochondrial toxin. He argues that high linoleic acid seed oils provide lipid proxidation and metabolic dysfunction. These the pro studies are ridden with co-founders and healthy user bias. Let me an example. He said in these studies, a lot of people are very health-runners, so they're exercising, their predatory the sea oils, they may be more active, and so there's some other things growing off some of the data. And so here's some facts I want everyone to think about when it comes to the seed oil debate

Starting point is 00:12:11 in terms of steel manning both sides. Here's number one thing to know. Healthy user bias, okay? Until recently, people using seed oils also smoke less, exercise more, exercise more, and ate more vegetables. Okay, that's not to argue it just away. They eat more fruits and vegetables, they smoke, they exercise more of the same people

Starting point is 00:12:33 that also use the people with. So that is going to throw the data off greatly. Also, the observation, or it's not true, cohorts show correlation. They cannot establish the oil cause the outcome. And the other thing I'll say is you have two sides where sometimes the studies that agree. In the Minnesota coronary in the Sydney Dietart study,

Starting point is 00:12:55 studies, these are actual rainwater trials, they show no benefit inside the farm swapping saturated, fat, feral and leg acid. So there are a lot of flaws potentially in this study. Okay, now let me come on with the pros on both sides. Now on the other side for seed oils here's the truth, there are huge, long, repeated studies. Hundreds of thousands of people over 30 years replicated across multiple countries, showing that sealers might be better than butter. Now, for the more recent studies, here's the thing, the bias made run the other way. Today, people that eat a lot of sea oil probably tend to also eat more junk. Okay, so let me just say

Starting point is 00:13:37 this. I think there are a really good argument on both sides. But here's my honesty. The studies aren't fraudulent, okay, but they mostly compared plant oil to butter and margarine and not grass-fed beef, fallow, and not d, and definitely not extra virgin olive oil. Okay. So they can't see the differences between fresh oil and reheated fry oil. Also, they love every plant oil together, which monies the water even more. So here's my honest hate as a doctor's functional medicine. The biology was the villain, the food maker's fit. Okay, listen, if you're eating mostly at home, avocado, pasteuraged eggs, walnuts,

Starting point is 00:14:19 you're getting a good amount of fat in your diet. It's a mixed variety of real foods. you're always going to be healthier. The food matrix versus if you're eating fast food with hydrogenous oils, you see of oils, and refined carbohydrate, in additives, and sugar, and all of those things, you're going to be sick. You're going to make things. You do want to focus on getting more omega-3 fath, not just cutting the omega-6 fats, okay?

Starting point is 00:14:46 Generally, omega-6 faths can be very healthy if you're getting enough omega-3s or wild-com. fish foil, flaky, chia, walnuts, seaweed. And then the last thing is this. Don't focus on the bad stuff, just focus on the good thing. Rather than saying, okay, should I eat a lot of saturated fat, or should I go and try and do more state weights? The answer is neither. I'm going to go through my top 10 oil list that you should be using

Starting point is 00:15:13 and focus on the top five oils on that list, specifically the top three are what you want to gravitate towards and use almost always. They're the most stable ones. They have the best overall results long term. Now, I want to give the Chinese medicine perspective on sweet oils versus buttered animal fats, okay? And here it is.

Starting point is 00:15:36 For some people, doing animal fats and butter, may actually be more harmful to their body than profit heat oils because these oils can be processed more slowly by your body. Okay? They cause more what we call dampness in Chinese medicine. So they can cause more sluggishness of the liver and the digestive system. So if your body can't move through things pretty quickly, it's going to cause an issue.

Starting point is 00:16:02 Now, seed oils do cause dampness in Chinese medicine. And dampness in Western medicine would be you're more likely to accumulate dampness, lamb like mucus and candida, overgrowth of bad microbes, okay, with too many bad oils. and also they tend to be more heating, they cause more inflammation in doing the end up by seed oil. So our animal fats cause your symptoms to live more slowly, seed oil tend to be more inflammatory, according to Chinese ones. Hey, guys, I'm here with my good friend, Dr. Dave Jockers. In fact, we've been friends for more than 20 years. He runs the podcast, the Dr. Dave Jockers' functional nutrition podcast. Dr. Dave, tell us a little bit about what your podcast is about.

Starting point is 00:16:49 Yeah, absolutely. We dive deep on functional nutrition, really how to personalize your nutrition plan for better energy, mental clarity, better hormone balance. And we talk a lot about cellular health, mitochondrial function, cell membrane. We do a deep dive on every major nutrition topic and natural health topic. So everything you need right there at your fingertips, Dr. Jocker's Functional Nutrition Podcast. I want to encourage you run out and listen to the Dr. Jocker's show. Again, I'm a big fan of it. I think you will be as well. should consider using and really focus at the very top of the book so before I do that though give me a favor subscribe the number one thing you do to support the show here allowing me to bring on higher profile guests and put out more great content so thank you so much for subscribing all right so let's start to count down with the top ten oils in ranking order number 10 we're going to start with macadamia nut oil okay so this is a sleeper-fick macadena oil is almost all monouneterated fat very similar to

Starting point is 00:17:52 almond oil and the same stable allege acid that makes olive oil great with very little fragile little like acid it's buttery it's mild it tastes great you want to treat it as more of a finishing oil and really not use it much from cooking though it does have a 410 heat threshold so it can be more stable number nine is a cow butter now this one surprises people all right a couple butter is mostly saturated fat and monolent saturated fat combined but It is incredibly stable. You can use it for cooking and baking. Number eight is duck fat.

Starting point is 00:18:30 Okay, duck fat is the chef's secret. It's rich in mildlystere fat. It's heat stable and it makes these best for roasted potatoes of the candy you ever have. Now, you want to take these oils, though, I wouldn't use them a lot, right? Duff fat, it is a saturated fat, and can slow your body down. You can get on occasion? It's probably okay. Number seven, grass-fed beef tallow.

Starting point is 00:18:52 Pello fat. And for higher sweet series, it's one of the best out there. Nearly half-saturated fat, half-modin-saturated fat, very stable. You know, one of the things that can be important with cooking oils is that it doesn't oxidize too much, and we'll get into that more than the follow of the stick. Grass-fed butter. Again, this is grass-fed. Study shows grass-fed butter is higher in vitamin A, vitamin D, P2, butyrate. conjugate linoleic acid, some omega-3, so there are more benefits of grass-led butter versus conventional. We've got these conventional studies is all conventional butter.

Starting point is 00:19:31 Number five, sesame oil is corned crust or toasted. This is a true medicinal oil. Sesame carries unique amyoxin, sceptimol, and sceptic that give it real oxidative stability and revered place in Chinese medicine and Irobeda where it's been known to nourish your adrenal in your blood. The catch is a finishing and low medium heat oil. You want to drizzle at the end. You don't want to deep fry with it.

Starting point is 00:19:57 You can stolfi with it, which is just fine. That's sesame oil or toasted sesame oil. Number four, my number four favorite fat to use is G. All right, G is clarified butter with the milk solid which raises in smoke form to 485 that makes it more stable than butter. From a functional medicine view, it beats up hollow. It's not in uterate.

Starting point is 00:20:20 It's one of the best force in the vitamin K2, which is roughly 15 times more than shallow, which helps direct calcium to your bones instead of your arteries. And this is even good for those people that are lactose intolerant typically. And ghee would use in medicine

Starting point is 00:20:34 or meals with medicine back in I or Veda, for instance, tumor golden milk, where they would combine tumor and ginger and warming spices like black pepper. And then ghee and the butter and the warming spices improved the absorption of those nutrients like curcumin found in tumor.

Starting point is 00:20:52 Now here's what I want to say. These last oils are my top tools, okay? And these are the ones that I personally use every day. Now, I might use ghee, I don't know, once a month on a cage, I'm trying to see the last one, you made mashed potatoes because seeing caw flour and adding ghee and a bunch of sea salt and so rather than mashed potatoes,

Starting point is 00:21:17 we had are mashed call flour, and that's probably probably the last time we can see but I don't use it out I really use these top three on a regular rate here over again number three is coconut oil coconut oil is about 90% saturated fat so it's fairly oxidized and it's one of the most heat-stable fat on curve and it contains predominantly a lot of different types of fatty acids like me and jane fatty acids and loric acid which even have an infinite growth of properties now yes it can raise lzdl some but when you If you compare coconut oil to every other type of saturated fat from pallas and duck fat and butter and all of these other factors that, coconut oil raises LDL the least

Starting point is 00:22:02 incentives. The other thing is it's got a lot of benefits for improving healthy to get multiple biomucal, getting rid of candida. If somebody is trying to get in the ketogenic diet, it is the best oil for that is part of the least lengthy fat along with olive oil for you. your body is stored and body fat because your body loves to burn a lot of the type of fat, the medium chain triglyceride, to add fuel. So it can be good for baking and tight heat cooking. Also, in Chinese medicine, it's known to be generally anti-inflammatory. So the coconut oil,

Starting point is 00:22:36 one of my favorite oils, now I'm almost said it, there's no heart disease or placking your arteries. You want to be careful with coconut oil. They just throw a little bit here and there. you really want to focus on these top two worlds, really number one predominantly. But coconut oil generally completely healthy. Coconut oil is in my top three favorite oils. By the way, I want to mention something you need here. My top three favorite oils, they're not animal-based oils, and they're not sea oils. All three of them are fruit oils.

Starting point is 00:23:05 Coconut, considered a fruit. avocado, considered a fruit. Olives, none of us consider them. But they're kind of the same category. fruit that are high and healthy fats. And the next year is avocado oil. Now, this is my number two because it does well with my heat. It's mostly mono-fetched fatty olive oil.

Starting point is 00:23:24 And it has one of the highest smoke holes in any of these is great for cereal, great for stir fry. But here's the catch. You want to buy a trusted third-forty tested brand because studies have found many cheap avocado oils are oxidized in secretly placed with steamwork. And the same goes for olive. by the way. Okay. So, avocado oil is a good option as well. I'm probably the oil I use third most. I do a lot of coconut oil when I bake and make certain things. And by far, the number one oil used in the Axe household that I

Starting point is 00:23:56 prescribe and recommend every patient I have in the most part is extra virgin olive oil. This was an oil that was prized by Roman culture. It is the foundation of the Mediterranean diet. It's at the foundation of a biblical diet like the libelio diet it has been tries throughout the middle east in europe for thousands of years and if you compare any oil out there against olive oil it will lose it is the most study it's the most ostensible and has the greatest health medical outfit it's mostly monocaturate and folate acid plus polyphenols which makes it really unique if you get a really good olive oil you're going to smell polyphenols. It smells green. It smells pervasive. It smells spicy. That's what it should smell one. And not only is it the backbone of the health is historicized. It's also backed by thousands

Starting point is 00:24:56 of studies that have been done for decades showing it improves longevity, decrease in mortality, improves heart health, improved brain health, reduces inflammation, supports metabolic health, has anti-cancer properties. It is the one. oil that you want to be using predominantly all the time. Drindsle it? Yes, and you can even cook with the other. There are old studies talking about smoke for years ago, and here's what we found, is that olive oil, even when you eat it or cook with it, it does smoke some, but there's so many polyphenols that remain stable because it's the most powerful antioxidant oil by far of all these other oil. So the question is, can I cook with olive oil? The answer is, the answer is,

Starting point is 00:25:42 Yes. Now one more thing I want to mention about seed oils here and I'm totally my list for cooking because I could have put probably pumpkin seed oil on there or flaxseed oil. It is going to have more benefits for your health than probably ranked number two and three behind extra virgin olive oil we're talking about flaxseed oil but they are more delicate and you don't want to keep them but you can use them raw on salad and other other recipes as well which I'll mention here. Again, there's a difference between industrially processed seed oils, like soybean oil, which you get as a feed, but soybean oil, corn oil, which is a grain oil,

Starting point is 00:26:24 connoble oil, cottonseed oil, sunbaw oil, Southlight oil, even great seed oil and white strand oil. These oils are hexatine extractive. They're bleached, they're deodorized. They are very high in these omega-6 fats, which if they're not in balance with omega-3 fats, can cause inflammation. And these are what are used and reheated over and over again and fast in restaurants in the deep frying. Okay, but then we also have other seed oils.

Starting point is 00:26:50 We have black seed oil. We have sesame oil. We have pumpkin seed oil. These are mechanically pressed. So it looks like olive oil is pressed. These are pressed. No solvent for use. Kianayoxins are in fact.

Starting point is 00:27:04 Flacks or chia or hemp oil are great sources of omega-3 fast like ALA. but they are very heat fragile. So you can use these in smoothies, in drizzles, salad bread, you can't sesame oil. You can cook that as long and medium heat. And one more oil that is a seed oil that's made it as most powerful of them all is black steed oil or black cumin oil. Black steed was used throughout middle east.

Starting point is 00:27:36 It even areas of India. And the old addages, you know, black seeds can even raise and that, but it is an incredibly powerful oil. It is as anti-inflammatory in many cases as black oil or even some fish oil. So

Starting point is 00:27:53 when you look at black seed oil, it is incredibly feeling and beneficial. So listen, when we're talking about these oils, these seed oils, the vernacular terminology are exactly correct. They're not all of them are actually seeds, all right? And then other seed oils tend to be really, really

Starting point is 00:28:09 healthy. And so if you were to reduce inflammation and fight cancer and infection, black seed oil is one you'd want to add in. If you want to use flaxseed oil, if you want to use flaxseed oil, if you want to support testosterone levels and block VHT in the body, so for men, pumpkin seed oil are doing a pumpkin seed nut butter tremendously beneficial also for prostate health. In fact, one of the ways people are drink of protgated to impungency oil as a supplement. So you do want to add in some of these healthier seed oils that are not processed. So here's the big idea. Seed oils aren't always as bad as we think they are, especially if you're choosing between those and conventional butter.

Starting point is 00:28:52 However, that doesn't make them healthy. And I would say for people on both sides of the debate, debating about is butter better, is our animal fats better, or processed seed oils, I would say this, just focus on the healthiest oils. Listen, I would hardly use either of this. I would really put my focus on fruit oils, an extra virgin olive oil, avocado, and coconut work, and then after that deep. Those are the healthiest oils and fat you should be giving on regular basis. And also, you don't want to go over with oils either. want to get most of your fat from actual food, walnuts, eating wild-caught sand, pastured eggs, this is really where you want to put your focus. And so if you're deciding what you're going to do

Starting point is 00:29:40 right now, run out and get extra virgin olive oil because it's a healthness point you can ever consume. And remember this, your body is rebuilding itself every single day. Every single cell in your body is mad at the fat. So when we say you are what you eat, that is true of fat and you're not. And that is true of fat. protein more than anything because your body is primarily made of? Protein and fat. And every cell in your body has a lupid bilater and every cell the membrane is made of fat. And that allows things to be in yourself, out of yourself. It's incredibly important for function, for healing, for long object. Remember this. Food is medicine. Every meal is medicine. So every meal, think about, are myself getting healthier or are they getting sicker? And if you want to do that,

Starting point is 00:30:27 to eat. Just stay out of the seed oil debate versus the animal fat debate can go extra burns and olive oil all the way because it's going to help the heal. By the way, if you want to dig people into understanding longevity and how the body heals, I would encourage you check out my new book and coming out here very soon. It's called Heal Yourselves. You go to Amazon.com and look up heal yourselves, Dr. Axe. This is a book I put off with Dr. Will Cole, but I believe it's going to be the authority book on Longerals. I have any medicine on nutrition-based medicine, but it really dives deep into how do you heal yourself? How do you reverse your reverse your body? How do you reverse hypothyroidism? How do you reverse and

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The Dr. Josh Axe Show - You Were Lied To About Seed Oils! The Truth About Butter, Tallow & Olive Oil

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